assassination

[vestal wren]

i was close to just writing an addon for propper tab targeting

[spare cloud]

I dont use tab

Because i played warrior

Tab sucks for execute sniping

And swapping between different targets

Specific ones*

[echo estuary]

you had to put rend up right

at least arms had to before im not up to date

[spare cloud]

No you execute snipe and colossus smash different targets

Because of sweeping strikes you dont want to colossus smash main target only

And yeah back then also rend

You dont play rend anymore

[echo estuary]

ah ok

[rancid meadow]

hey guys

[Master Assassin] or [Balanced Blades]

[kindred forge]

Depends how many MA relics you have?

[brisk forge]

if its your second, dont do it

[crimson knoll]

Check the pins for relic sims.

Also, what are the 2nd tier traits?

[slate cradle]

Hey Boyz, am I right that vigor is the talent to go as assa+shoulders?

[zealous dew]

sin plays vigor yes

unless you play bleed

[slate cradle]

aight, nah poison build, thank you 😃

[austere crater]

I asked yesterday but missed it. Whats better the bleed build or poison for raids and m+?

[fervent beacon]

Poison would be more suitable for + as it would take time for bleed to tick in unless you're pushing high key

Raid, bleed is pulling ahead but does require high setup like having 7/7 Master Ass trait with boots/bracers setup

[austere crater]

Thank you. My first time with a spec that has different options like this. So is poison easier to gear for first? It looks like it's just mastery but bleed wants verst with the right traits?

[fervent beacon]

basically

[honest pelican]

blood o the assasinated, its totally random proc right? only ask because i swear every 2nd ruptore it goes off

[turbid harbor]

30% chance on rupture

[fervent beacon]

its 30% chance when you rupture, right

?

[gaunt moat]

ok finished watching

[hazy tendon]

For envenom, I'm seeing conflicting comments on envenoming on either 3 combo points or 4? Some argue that 3 is ideal while others argue that 4 is. When I started using envenom on 3, WoWanalyzer says I waste significantly less combo points, which is the point. Anyone have an opinion? Is it based on enhancement percentages?>

[turbid harbor]

envenom on 4

mutilating on 3 is shitty but, when your next finisher is going to be envenom, it is sometimes needed if you aren't in a position to use tb, kb or garrote

[strange python]

Never seen anyone suggest envenom at 3

[turbid harbor]

for what it's worth i will rupture on 3 situationally, but not envenom on 3

[hazy tendon]

@supple hearth Would love input from moderators, if possible

I never rupture on 3

Always 4 or 5

[turbid harbor]

assuming moderators give better advice than people in here is a slippery slope

[forest acorn]

you might waste less cp but you get less damage

its definitely >4

[hazy tendon]

They're just more likely to have been around for previous conversations. Not by any means a dig at you personally

I appreciate the discussion

[strange python]

Not much you can do about wasted seal fate cps, as long as you dont waste mutilate cps

[forest acorn]

bleed or poison?

[hazy tendon]

Poison

[forest acorn]

then especially, how much cp would you really end up wasting anyway

[spare cloud]

So

[hazy tendon]

Sort of, my gear is pretty shit itemized

[spare cloud]

what are we talking about

[forest acorn]

not enough to justify

[hazy tendon]

When I went for 4, I would often waste in the high double digits

Since i swapped, its gotten really low

[forest acorn]

interesting

i've never seen more than 20 get wasted that way

[fair sleet]

I've read its acceptable to use 3 cp envenom during vendetta to maintain surge of toxins. is this true?

[spare cloud]

Never envenom at 3 cp

[strange python]

No

[forest acorn]

nah

[spare cloud]

4 or 5

thats it

[strange python]

Surge of toxins is only relevant during kingsbane

[spare cloud]

Nah SoT is also relevant out of kingsbane

[strange python]

You're joking.

[spare cloud]

I'm not joking

It still buffs your poisons

[turbid harbor]

why would SoT only be relevant inside kb?

[strange python]

what legendaries are best for mythic+ poison build?

[turbid harbor]

it's more important inside kb for sure

[forest acorn]

its only relevant to try to maintain it inside kb*

[spare cloud]

@strange python Bracers and Shoulders

[hazy tendon]

Ayyyye, Im appreciating this conversation boys

[forest acorn]

otherwise its just there, let it be there but dont go out of your way to maintain it when you cant

[turbid harbor]

and SoT doesn't increase the damage of envenom

[spare cloud]

@hazy tendon Don't envenom at 3. It's worse than 4+

[strange python]

@spare cloud cloak is never useful?

[turbid harbor]

but it still increases the damage of deadly poison and poison bomb

[spare cloud]

@strange python Can be, many legendaries ahve situational use. But in situations where cloak can be useful you should play sub anyways 🤷

[turbid harbor]

sot uptime comes with 2p uptime anyway

[strange python]

If you focus on maintaining a decent envenom buff then SoT naturally has a good uptime

[forest acorn]

cloak is suboptimal compared to many other better things

[spare cloud]

Ofc

[strange python]

@spare cloud got it thank you

I mean that it is not something you think about

[spare cloud]

but that doesn't make SoT irrelivant

[strange python]

Not that it useless

SoT hasnt really been relevant since agonizing poison

[spare cloud]

Thats just true

it is very relevant

[forest acorn]

its relevant but you dont have to look for it outside of kb

[spare cloud]

Yeah then say that

don't just give a blank wrong statement

[forest acorn]

aye, think thats what he meant but idk

[spare cloud]

If he can't articulate himself well enough then dont say smth that might be picked up wrong for some people

[jovial kite]

looks like a great conversation, better derail it before it gets any worse

[spare cloud]

That awkward moment when you don't have nitro so you have to post pictures of emojis

[jovial kite]

[spare cloud]

Why tho

[jovial kite]

for the swole purpose of derailment

[forest acorn]

well it did work i suppose

[jovial kite]

ofc it did

[spare cloud]

Connor didn't say anything anymore anyways

so the conversation was over

[jovial kite]

im drunk af

send bobs

[strange python]

Sorry, then maybe how I interpret the word relevant is not correct

[vestal wren]

there you go

[strange python]

Wtf

[jovial kite]

oooh

nice bobs

can i has the more

[vestal wren]

its only 1 bob

[jovial kite]

yes thats why i need more

bobs usually comes in twos

vegane only ones

[spare cloud]

I googled bob the builder army

and found this

[jovial kite]

what is this

thats no bobs

[spare cloud]

Yeah

I agree

google is lying

[jovial kite]

😠

[spare cloud]

Slagg

carry my monk hc

please

it's your path to rank up to bae again

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/03f6151b31d0390dc5318b14157b6ca4

this is beautiful

because bobs make a difference

sry im too drunk to paly

so no bae actoin tonight

[spare cloud]

Why are you drunk at 10 pm

[vestal wren]

there you go (bobs)

[jovial kite]

thats

triplebobs

thats not a pair of bobs

[spare cloud]

I thought they came in pairs

[jovial kite]

and im djrunk because

our night got extended lastnight

[vestal wren]

if 1 bob is nice, 2 bobs are nicer and 3 are awesome am i right?

[jovial kite]

3 bobs is wierd

unnatural

[spare cloud]

3 bobs is like being the third wheel on a date

[strange python]

speaking of derailment

[spare cloud]

one is odd

[jovial kite]

one isnt that unusual though because of the cancer of the bobs

its odd true

@supple hearth https://gyazo.com/03f6151b31d0390dc5318b14157b6ca4

[spare cloud]

Why is everyone always pinging giggle when they try to ping a mod

the dude before did so as well

[jovial kite]

from my intel i think gigel is the only mod with bobs

[spare cloud]

Pretty sure Notter has huge bobs

[strange python]

Okay, I want to talk about this

[jovial kite]

bobs?

[strange python]

Do you think relevant is synonymous with impactful or useful

If I dont have to think about something at all, then I consider it irrelevant at that moment

[spare cloud]

Impactful and useful are 2 different things

[strange python]

Irrelevant to doing meaningful damage

That's why I said "or".

[spare cloud]

also no

I mean you have to think about it while kingsbane

so that in itself makes it not irrelivant

[strange python]

thats why I said it is relevant during kingsbane..... Hello?

[spare cloud]

Also just becasue you dont think about it in that moment it doesn't make it irrelivant

[jovial kite]

guys guys

we are getting on the wrong rails again

[spare cloud]

go home you're drunk

[jovial kite]

post vegane vibes

https://gyazo.com/aeb4ec1e866faa9dec9b3444fb6481b2

bobs are also allowed and commended

[strange python]

I digress, but I don't think I'm wromg about that

Relevance being important to the matter at hand.

Sot is not important to the matter at hand outside of kb

Or does irrelevant not mean the same as "not relevant"?

Or am I just a dumbass

Who doesnt know the meaning of either of these words

[spare cloud]

It's a dmg buff, so how is it not important?

[jovial kite]

i think you might have goldtism

[spare cloud]

So you're saying you can just dismiss every passive dmg buff because you don't actively think about it

[strange python]

would you consider it an important dmg buff?

[jovial kite]

goldtism

[spare cloud]

I think it's pretty important, yes

[jovial kite]

its pretty much 10% important amirite

rite?

[spare cloud]

is it 10% though if you use it at 4 cp

[strange python]

Not sure, I think it is based on cp.

[manic vigil]

it's happening

stop teasing, notter

[honest pelican]

i must be insane because if i rupture overwrite, i get blood every 2nd time

wtf

crap, queued solo for maw, forgot entirely about my rogue quest. is ther eno way to get back on the boat....? thatsd where my item is

i took the portal back to the entrance, but the horn cannot be clicked again

[jovial kite]

[gilded lark]

Whispering stjern in game to become a rh mod

[zealous dew]

65

[jovial kite]

(9)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6LovY_DdEE

too cute omg

[uncut shale]

I have a quick question on the guide. "Use Toxic Blade either the last 8 seconds of Kingsbane duration or on cooldown. Do not delay your Toxic Blade more than 5 seconds waiting for Kingsbane. If Vendetta is coming up you can delay as well." Does that mean delay Toxic Blades if there's 5 seconds on the KB cooldown, or don't delay it more than 5 seconds period? Does the time waiting for the last 8 seconds of KB count into that or just use it if KB has more than 5 seconds of cooldown remaining?

[dire spoke]

Stjern

[gaunt moat]

@uncut shale i'm not sure what about the phrase is confusing you. and your name is suggesting you're trolling me...

[uncut shale]

@gaunt moat thanks for the advice, I highly appreciate it.

[gaunt moat]

glad to help? o_O

[uncut shale]

Do not delay more than 5 seconds waiting for the "8 seconds of KB" or don't delay more than 5 seconds waiting for KB to be off cooldown?

[gaunt moat]

don't delay more than 5 seconds. period.

[amber sleet]

LUL

[uncut shale]

Ok, gotcha

[gaunt moat]

stjern i think you went overboard with your roles

even both muted roles!

and you're actually a bot?

[zealous dew]

66

[manic vigil]

moar roles

and thanks for keeping us posted shantal bot

I guess ...

[zealous dew]

67!

bedtime

[manic vigil]

[gaunt moat]

what's that, how many times he wanked? :x

[spare cloud]

How many times Tisumi asked application status

[gaunt moat]

in whispers in-game

[manic vigil]

notter

I think it's the level of his 4th (?) rogue

shantal really needs a life

[spare cloud]

the level of his IQ?

[manic vigil]

mean

[spare cloud]

slowly increasing

but sadly maxed out at 110

[turbid harbor]

is rh looking for another mod?

[manic vigil]

we got notter, who else do we need?

can't beat those snappy comments and top notch bunny pictures

[dire spoke]

If you beg not to get mod, you will be promoted actually

I don't want to be mod at all

[turbid harbor]

hehe

xd

[gaunt moat]

I think we could use another when BFA comes out

Probably gonna be busy time

[manic vigil]

to babysit tom probably

don't look at me

no, sir

[supple hearth]

👀

[gaunt moat]

Obviously now there's not much going on except us being bored

[manic vigil]

makes sense yeah

might be nice to have meaningful on-topic discussions

[dire spoke]

I have to tell don every day to go general

[manic vigil]

Zempai modding the mods

that makes you stjern's squire right there

[dire spoke]

mate if there is stuff to help, I be happy to do so

this community helped me so much

[manic vigil]

don't call me mate

[spare cloud]

I can babysit tom

he listens to me

[dire spoke]

@manic vigil fotze

[manic vigil]

better

[gaunt moat]

@dire spoke try to make rare add emojis that are more intresting 👲

[manic vigil]

yeah then you are truly the chosen one

[dire spoke]

I made the guild discord, it has ALL emoji slots covered

• I know photoshop

[spare cloud]

Liar

[dire spoke]

[gaunt moat]

On a serious note: if you can supply a rar file with some icons you think can fit. I can pass it along to him.

[manic vigil]

animated bunny emoji or bust tbh

[dire spoke]

okay cool

[manic vigil]

imagine us having proper memeojis

I'd dance all day

[gaunt moat]

Probably not memes

[manic vigil]

aaaaand

it was a good 5s

[dire spoke]

[gaunt moat]

We'll make our own memes

[manic vigil]

even better

[gaunt moat]

@dire spoke that's pretty nice

[dire spoke]

it's ripped from herodamage lmao

D:

[gaunt moat]

Yah i noticed

Aethis will like it

[dire spoke]

ahahah

[manic vigil]

it's also absolutely useless

[safe matrix]

Our emote meme game is bad

[manic vigil]

broadsides should be in charge of RH emojis

[safe matrix]

Whenever I go to the other class discords I get a pain in my chest

Knowing that we could have emotes of that calibre

Here in ravenholdt

[manic vigil]

agreed

we're too serious, tho. rogue btw

wl got some good emojis rolling

[spare cloud]

[gaunt moat]

that's probably a good one too

[shrewd oriole]

[gaunt moat]

^this is annoying

[solid nova]

No ADHD emotes pls

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Official discord partner but no good emotes

[spare cloud]

[dire spoke]

[gaunt moat]

if you can just send me the icons in rar file, would be great.

[solid nova]

He's gonna steal yo work blud

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

Out memed by priests and warlocks

[gaunt moat]

i like to think of it as a TEAM EFFORT @solid nova

[turbid harbor]

how do priests have good memes

[shrewd oriole]

Josh ?

How is josh not the best fucking wow meme

[turbid harbor]

josh is a good meme

[shrewd oriole]

There’s no meme better than josh

[gaunt moat]

@dire spoke i don't know how to download these when you link them like that, that's why i ask that you send them as files

[solid nova]

Didn't dispel me in EoA

[shrewd oriole]

He outclasses every other meme

[solid nova]

Never forgive

[spare cloud]

[solid nova]

Scuffed trial

[shrewd oriole]

Josh is actually an insane player tho

I choose to believe he isn’t as socially inapt as he makes himself out to he

But he’s an amazing meme

[turbid harbor]

you should’ve seen him try to tank aggramar heroic

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Healers playing off roles

[turbid harbor]

didn’t understand that if he got hit by both foe breakers

[shrewd oriole]

[manic vigil]

you can just right click emotes --> open link --> right click again and download. ezpz

[turbid harbor]

that he would die

[manic vigil]

that's how I steal 'em all

[turbid harbor]

it was a good meme

[shrewd oriole]

Good shit

[gaunt moat]

ah didn't notice the open option

[shrewd oriole]

If I think about it

There’s no prominent rogue in the community, no face of the rogue community

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Even warriors have swiftly

Swifty

[spare cloud]

Warriors have me

[shrewd oriole]

Druids have nagura, priests have josh

[spare cloud]

We have Musclebrah

[shrewd oriole]

Rogue have musclebrah?

N o n a m e

[turbid harbor]

nagura has quite a few faces

[shrewd oriole]

😉

Gingi

[spare cloud]

I want Revvez to stream

he's insane

[shrewd oriole]

Hunters are the sexiest players tbh

Who represents monks?

[spare cloud]

Shadli

[shrewd oriole]

No one I guess cuz no one plays that shit class

[spare cloud]

but not anymore

[shrewd oriole]

Who?

[spare cloud]

Musclebrah also represents monk

[shrewd oriole]

No names like you?

Muscle brah represents the wow German community

A bunch of

Really

Nice people 😃

[gaunt moat]

@dire spoke no subtletly icon?

[spare cloud]

Majority of Method is german

[manic vigil]

tom is our celeb I thought

[spare cloud]

🤔

[turbid harbor]

i've met 1 monk main

[shrewd oriole]

Subtlety vanished

[turbid harbor]

he was a russian

[dire spoke]

@gaunt moat I'm just memeing around

[shrewd oriole]

@spare cloud really?

[gaunt moat]

keep suggesting stuff

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t know anyone in method personally

[spare cloud]

Yeah

Deepshades is german

[shrewd oriole]

I pigged a key with roger brown once but that was it

[spare cloud]

Lorgok as well

Xerwo topo

Revvez is german as well

I think he is

[manic vigil]

I thought flowi and weak were our celebrities. and our TCers

[spare cloud]

Then I thought of someone else

[gaunt moat]

i played with the method guys :x

[shrewd oriole]

Neither of them are particularly well known

Outside of the rogue community

[spare cloud]

Nnogga is german as well I think

isn't he?

Yeah then I mistook him for someone else

[shrewd oriole]

Notter is our celebrity

He’s got his name on the website

[gaunt moat]

roger deleted me from friends a while ago though 😦

[shrewd oriole]

That must account for something

His fl is prolly full

[turbid harbor]

rip

[shrewd oriole]

Why keep someone who doesn’t play

[spare cloud]

there used to be many more in method that are german

I think they stopped though

Kreps was german too

[gaunt moat]

justwait is nice guy though

[shrewd oriole]

I have YouTube celebrities on my bnet does that make me famous?

Mike preach w 👌 w

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole justwait didn't delete me :x

[shrewd oriole]

L z

[spare cloud]

Ah I remember who I mistook him for @gusty kestrel

Pottm

he was german too

[shrewd oriole]

Does pottm still play

His weak auras were so insane

His lus was 🙆

[gaunt moat]

my friend was in preach's guild.
but he said preach plays a bit... meh.

[shrewd oriole]

Idk

Preach is a raider like everyone else

Can’t attest for his skill yet

[gaunt moat]

well their guild fell apart

[shrewd oriole]

But he’s absolutely a team player

Which is something I guess

[dire spoke]

@spare cloud where you at

[spare cloud]

Guys

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah that’s why he joined us

[spare cloud]

carry my monk through hc please

[gaunt moat]

i dunno, from what i gathered he felt like they were carrying preach

[dire spoke]

you're not online

[spare cloud]

Yeah sec

You need to find a group first anyways

[shrewd oriole]

Fair

Idk

[spare cloud]

because I cant see most groups

my monk has 850

[shrewd oriole]

If he’s not good he’ll be benched

[spare cloud]

Best geared 850 Monk in the game though

[gaunt moat]

"celebrity" raiders not always a good thing

[shrewd oriole]

The fatboss crew and my buddy Tyler are actually the best officer crew I know

[spare cloud]

If you stream you will have a really hard time finding a top guild

I mean a really top guild

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah fragrance is in a p bad guild tbh

[spare cloud]

🤦

So fragnance was a famous streamer before he joined method?

alright then

[shrewd oriole]

Being in a top Guild makes you a top streamer

Which top streamer isn’t in a top guild

[spare cloud]

Musclebrah

[shrewd oriole]

Musclebrah doesn’t get the views

[spare cloud]

There are no german streamers that are in a top german guild

[shrewd oriole]

That frag does lol

[spare cloud]

there is no streamer from aversion

[shrewd oriole]

There’s bajheera

He’s a huge streamer in wow terms and he isn’t in any guild

[spare cloud]

Drjay is another german streamer

but he's in future

future is not good

[shrewd oriole]

There’s that girl, Annie

[supple hearth]

when will I be a celeb 😭

[gaunt moat]

isn't there that other girl, kagura or something

[turbid harbor]

kagura btw

[strange python]

you're a celeb in my heart

[supple hearth]

tysm

xoxo

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth mate you gotta do what anniefuchsia does

Stream you doing absolutely no content

Farming transmog, farming mounts

[supple hearth]

isnt she like the female asmongold tho

[spare cloud]

Giggle you just need to stream with cam

and youre famous in no time

[shrewd oriole]

She plays the game the same way as asmongold

But her room is tidy

And she’s not toxic

[spare cloud]

HEY

asmongold cleaned up recently

[turbid harbor]

don't you have to be funny to be the female asmongold?

[shrewd oriole]

Legit she’s got such a nice gig going on

[supple hearth]

i always thought of her as a female asmongold. like obviously shes not disgusting, but as far as content goes she has like....a lot of content done

[shrewd oriole]

Farm mounts and pets for a living

Yeah, in that sense she’s like asmongold

She has similar % in that all the things addon

[gaunt moat]

i know personally a girl that plays wow and does cam shows.
but i was never able to find her cam shows, she uses different name 😠

[turbid harbor]

alinity 😄

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat my mates room mate is a famous 50 year old escort

I’ve found her content

[gaunt moat]

50 year old living with room mate? :S

[spare cloud]

Tom lost his virginity to him

[shrewd oriole]

In a 2M apartment in central London

[supple hearth]

lol @ quin..

[shrewd oriole]

Ahahah

[supple hearth]

I'd like to stream but I don't think I have the most outgoing talkative fun steamer personality

[shrewd oriole]

See

I’m definitely talkative

But am I fun

[spare cloud]

No

[shrewd oriole]

Exactly

[gaunt moat]

well, as a girl. you'll get high views regardless.

[shrewd oriole]

I can entertain tisumi and toph for hours

[turbid harbor]

i stream diablo 3 to 100-200 viewers when new content comes out

[shrewd oriole]

But that’s the lower denominator tbh

[turbid harbor]

but new content comes out every 12 months

😄

[strange python]

you're famous

12 months is generous

[spare cloud]

You can make a living of 100-200 viewers

[shrewd oriole]

Ehhhh

Depends

[turbid harbor]

i only get that for a few weeks after content

[shrewd oriole]

If they have big wallets

[turbid harbor]

definitely can't live off it

[spare cloud]

Yeah i know

I was talking averages

[shrewd oriole]

If I could stream my raids

[turbid harbor]

ya probably

[shrewd oriole]

I could be a big streamer

Our raids are so fucking funny

Free content

[spare cloud]

Nah thats not what it takes to be a succesful streamer

[shrewd oriole]

We have pulls where we wipe because everyone is crying with laughter

You gotta build a base off of something lol

[spare cloud]

Yeah but thats not the kind of content that gets you a good base

[shrewd oriole]

Didn’t you sit through our entire last raid @gusty kestrel ?

Tell me that shit isn’t funny as fuck

😂

😠

[supple hearth]

lmao

[shrewd oriole]

Rip viewer engagement

[spare cloud]

He's busy whispering stjern

[shrewd oriole]

Give mod

What guild is Stjern in

[spare cloud]

Please don't make tom mod

[dire spoke]

boi I'm exhausted wth

[turbid harbor]

he's in the reckless

i was officer there until KJ

[shrewd oriole]

Which server? There’s a shit load

[turbid harbor]

twisting nether

[spare cloud]

Look for the one that has stjern in it

[shrewd oriole]

Aight gonna apply

[spare cloud]

If tom gets mod I'm out

[turbid harbor]

LOL

[shrewd oriole]

Do you think you can outperform any of our current raiders: yeah I can shit on that rogue called stjern

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Is he even a rogue

[turbid harbor]

i really liked the people in the reckless

but they were so bad at hard bosses

[shrewd oriole]

Rip

Like every hard boss

Or kj?

[turbid harbor]

we had 400 pulls on kj before seeing last phase

[spare cloud]

how many guilds even cleared KJ

[shrewd oriole]

Ok yeah that’s terrible

[spare cloud]

before antorus?

[shrewd oriole]

[turbid harbor]

400+ pulls on avatar

350+ misstress

[shrewd oriole]

Nice method numbers

[turbid harbor]

stjern joined them after they'd killed argus

[shrewd oriole]

12 hours a week makes up for it I guess

Yikes

[turbid harbor]

but it took them 6 weeks from aggra to argus

[shrewd oriole]

Ah good I can talk smack then

12 hours a week world 500

[turbid harbor]

they're a really nice group of people

and they kill easy bosses quickly

[spare cloud]

What do you consider quick?

on easy bosses

[gaunt moat]

@spare cloud LOADED QUESTION

[turbid harbor]

but, at least when i was officer there, people do not learn from their mistakes and we kept wiping to the same mechanics

maybe it's different with other leadership

[gaunt moat]

where are you now zolbar?

[turbid harbor]

without a trace

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[spare cloud]

time to stalk you

[shrewd oriole]

Seems they only got 2/11 on week 1

Is that really fast

Zoop zoop fast

[spare cloud]

You should first/second try the first bosses

[shrewd oriole]

They killed garothi at 21:30 server time

[turbid harbor]

speed is relative

[shrewd oriole]

And hounds at 22:30

So like 45-50 minutes on hounds

[turbid harbor]

faster on easy than on difficult relative to other guilds of similar skill

[spare cloud]

Yah thats fine tbh

considering thats world 500

actually thats very good

when I was in a world 600 guild we were stuck on the easy bosses for way longer

than that

[shrewd oriole]

Your thesis is p true tho zolbar

They arrived at Argus world rank 351

Left 428

Seems like the big red man raped them

Almost 100 world ranks lost to a single boss yikes

[spare cloud]

our wowprogress says we killed garothi after felhounds

[turbid harbor]

😄

[shrewd oriole]

[turbid harbor]

my guild took a 2 week break for xmas

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/727d05692a540573826d4c77df11e623

[turbid harbor]

caught up a lot on argus

[gaunt moat]

i still need to find a guild for BFA :x

[spare cloud]

we're always really good on early bosses

@gaunt moat do you speak german fluently

[gaunt moat]

nein

[spare cloud]

I want to be warrior 😭

[shrewd oriole]

German in Israel

[gaunt moat]

there's no problem with that

[shrewd oriole]

Poggers

Cam stream when notter pls

[spare cloud]

when hes buffed

[shrewd oriole]

So should I stream?

With cam

My mom actually got me a webcam

[spare cloud]

Your stream barely runs without cam

[shrewd oriole]

I’m not sure what’s wrong with my settings

I know 0 about tech

[spare cloud]

What gpu and cpu do you have

[shrewd oriole]

I’ll tell you tomorow

[gaunt moat]

streaming too much hassle... need cam.. need proper lighting... need good mic..

[spare cloud]

Nah

[shrewd oriole]

Nah

You just need to be shirtless

It has to be my settings

[solid nova]

And I can't be a lazy slob

[spare cloud]

I would stream but nobody watches me 😦

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz my pc is fine

[turbid harbor]

starting is brutal

[spare cloud]

yeah right

[solid nova]

I'd watch it

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole lucky for you i just uploaded a shirtless pic to facebook today

[spare cloud]

I can go live right now

[shrewd oriole]

I had 10

[spare cloud]

and play some witcher

[solid nova]

Do it and link

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat when is that gonna go on my dms

[solid nova]

I'm making pizza

[spare cloud]

I want to play witcher on deathmarch again

[solid nova]

Entertain me

[spare cloud]

I still need to play the dlcs

[turbid harbor]

i can't stream antorus on my pc

get shit fps even without stream

otherwise i probably would

[spare cloud]

stream shouldnt impact fps

[solid nova]

I bought witcher 3 on sale about 4 months ago

[spare cloud]

unless your pc is really bad

[solid nova]

Still haven't downloaded it

[turbid harbor]

i think it's thermal throttling

[spare cloud]

Its a really good game

wow runs pretty bad

[turbid harbor]

i haven't cleaned my fan since i bought the pc

because it's AIDS to get to

[solid nova]

I'm either eating, working, at the gym or trying to optimise alts in between raiding

[turbid harbor]

and i don't know enough about computers to take it apart

[spare cloud]

My CPU and GPU never go above 50 degrees celsius

[solid nova]

I don't want to get lost to w3

[turbid harbor]

mine are like 80-90

[spare cloud]

thats too high

[solid nova]

Don't you want it below 70?

[spare cloud]

But you dont need to take it apart to clean the fan

Also you dont need to be afraid

just avoid touching the mainboard

[turbid harbor]

i can't access 2 of the fans for the screw unless i take something else out

[calm grail]

Yeah, just give it a bath after unplugging it.

[spare cloud]

if you just want to clean fans

[calm grail]

Let it dry for a month

Good to go

[turbid harbor]

mmmmm

maybe i'll try again

[solid nova]

Can bath it at the same time as your monthly bath as well to save time

[spare cloud]

Yeah

but if you do that really make sure it is unplugged.

Also if you open it make sure you touch the heater before

[turbid harbor]

i'll take my toaster in the bath too

[spare cloud]

earth yourself

[turbid harbor]

clean that as well

2 birds 1 stone

[spare cloud]

idk the english word for that

[gaunt moat]

i actually looked at that picture compared to me 4 years ago.
i looked so skinny back then comparatively.

[calm grail]

Ground

[spare cloud]

in german its "erden"

[calm grail]

Yep.

[spare cloud]

I'm buying a bike

to start training stamina

then I'm also gonna go back to training

after a time

gotta get into shape

[solid nova]

@gaunt moat found a picture from my 21st birthday - it's embarrassing compared to now

Was basically a walking Skelton lol

[spare cloud]

there legit exist no pictures of me on the internet

except 1

from when I was 13

[gaunt moat]

thing is, gf looked at all picture. and was like "hmm, i kinda liked that look too"
and i was like 😐

[calm grail]

I'm pretty much a skeleton now.

[manic vigil]

where is the toph stream

og og

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat wait did she say she liked you skinny or rn

[spare cloud]

Should I stream rh chat

[gaunt moat]

my face was a lot thinner then too, i don't know how to make my face thin again 😦

[manic vigil]

btw your guild is german toph?! so tyra is german?

I had no idea

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole she said she liked both

[spare cloud]

Yes? O.O

[solid nova]

@gaunt moat I've still got the same shirt in that picture I found- it was baggy then

Can't do the top button on it now haha

[gaunt moat]

i am, i lost 6% fat in less than 4 months

[calm grail]

Went from Ham Planet Fatty American to Healthy weight working out to Work too much for the gym let's be skinny fuck it

[spare cloud]

kk

my stream is live

I can't advertise myself

sry

[solid nova]

Link and wait 5 seconds

Then delete

[spare cloud]

notter do I have permission?

[solid nova]

My pizza is nearly done

I wanna watch

[turbid harbor]

why is your picture a scary japanese lady

[calm grail]

Is it soliciting if we are asking?

[turbid harbor]

when it's usually a cute korean

[spare cloud]

She's pretty cute as well. Just scared

or rather

excited

sec.

[gaunt moat]

i posted this progress (don't click if you don't want to see half naked guy)
https://scontent.fsdv2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30441015_10156325261553255_159908117830696960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeH4DC8eUDJG1J1gIc130-bGxqR4ZmCBOzFsT3gNpKnslPLYpXffAESzIGdUpX1-0QCkCYOnq0WdXVHqHt5JtX_GCnTHffj5NpZ6CdPoBlLcXw&oh=7ae92dd3a86dad2ed76e988dcdc8642a&oe=5B27D762
still got a way to go though. i want to lose more fat.

[calm grail]

What % are you at?

[spare cloud]

Notter

[gaunt moat]

21-22%

[calm grail]

I stopped at 17%

I don't work out anymore though

[shrewd oriole]

22 ain’t bad

[spare cloud]

fuck it I'ma just do it.

[shrewd oriole]

It’s a solid start

[gaunt moat]

@spare cloud the higher ups say no self promotion. but you can link it to your discord profile and we go from there

[shrewd oriole]

I think I hit 7% before my vacations

[spare cloud]

Nobody saw that

[shrewd oriole]

But i ate total shit

These past 10 days

So I think I easily went up 2%

I put on 3 kilos lmao

[calm grail]

Post another picture

You don't look like you were 7% last time I saw a picture of you

[gaunt moat]

my goal is 17%, but it doesn't seem achievable X_X

[calm grail]

Starve yourself

[spare cloud]

How do I link my discord profile

I don't even know

[solid nova]

Gonna watch toph stream

[shrewd oriole]

I’ll getchu one when I’m home, I have all my progress pictures on my laptop lol

[solid nova]

Gn

[turbid harbor]

people just right click you

but your twitch isnt connected to discord

[spare cloud]

I don't think I have twitch linked to discord

sec

[shrewd oriole]

We are arriving at Lisbon in 4 hours and then another 4 till I get to London feels bad man

The one to London is not on the jet either

So it’s WiFi-less

Kill me

[calm grail]

Do you eat sugar at all Notter?

I'm not talking about the occasional incidental sugar, but like fruit regularly or in your coffee

Etc

[gaunt moat]

@spare cloud

[shrewd oriole]

Should you cut on fruit?

[calm grail]

Between cutting up sugar and going to a high protein medium fat diet with vegetables I've hovered around 17% for 2 years

[gaunt moat]

@calm grail yeah, i mean, i'm not going hardcore no sugar

[calm grail]

Fruit has a ton of sugar in it.

A lot of people eat fruits thinking they are being healthy not realizing how much sugar it has

[shrewd oriole]

I’m hypoglycemic tho

I need a source of sugar in my diet or I’m gonna die lmao

[calm grail]

Rice.

[shrewd oriole]

Really?

[calm grail]

Yeah.

[shrewd oriole]

I could try that

Cutting 100% on fruit

Gonna need to lose these 3 kilos anyways

[gaunt moat]

i eat bananas and apples almost daily.

[calm grail]

I don't mean white rice by the way, I think pressure cookers are more popular in Europe anyhow, so get some of that nice wild rice

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t eat white rice

I run mostly on wild rice and cuscus these days

[calm grail]

That's pretty good.

[tender adder]

was looking at the logs of the KR rogues and one of them pops vendetta right after garrote in the opener is that a thing?

[calm grail]

Don't cut back too much on carbohydrates, you will definitely lose weight, but you will also feel like you are dying and have no energy, you definitely won't be able to work out

[spare cloud]

Okay

how do I link my profile now

[shrewd oriole]

People just click it

[spare cloud]

it should work now.

[shrewd oriole]

@tender adder yeah, you can even vendetta as your first action coming off stealth.

[spare cloud]

I added it

[shrewd oriole]

@calm grail I eat a decent amount of carbs, I just don’t eat pasta or bread

[gaunt moat]

i guess for me the biggest change was drinking only water.
i drank only coke for like 13 years.

[calm grail]

Well Diet Coke is fine.

[shrewd oriole]

And if I want to go extreme slim I cut carboh at dinner

[calm grail]

It's just a lot of people who drink diet coke will get tempted to find other sweet things that's where the bad Association comes with

Some people just try to opt out of the Sweet Tooth all together in that case.

[manic vigil]

my chat experience

[shrewd oriole]

Sodas was the easiest thing to avoid

[gaunt moat]

i ordered 80$ worth of candies from japan a week ago 😅

[calm grail]

Yeah. Once I hit my goal weight though, you bet your ass I have Diet Coke here and there.

How else can I satisfy my sweet tooth and avoid the calories

RIP

[shrewd oriole]

Dw notter

You have until summer

[gaunt moat]

what's gonna happen in summer

[calm grail]

My protein goal is to murder at least one chicken daily.

So far so good.

[manic vigil]

time for some nachos, fuck y'all healthy bros

[solid nova]

@spare cloud My girlfriend just asked if I'm watching Fragnance

She thinks you sound like him haha

[dire spoke]

toph stealin yo girl

• I want chocolate

didn't have any for weeks

[strange python]

breakfast, white chocolate

o.O

[dire spoke]

what

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat beach happens in Summer

[spare cloud]

I'm doing daily hcs now

please come and make me famous

I'm trying to join a german streamer pug

they wont take me

[shrewd oriole]

Whazz is actually so insane

Watching him makes me wanna do pvp

[gaunt moat]

why would i go to the beach

[spare cloud]

When you could build a snowman

[shrewd oriole]

Are you not a beach kind of guy

I love the beach

I love tanning

[calm hollow]

I've been gone for a few months now is there any where i can read up on how the bfa changes are right now?

[dire remnant]

malganis vs illidan
go
servers
which should i choose

[calm hollow]

i know nothing is set in stone yet

malganis

[dire remnant]

why

[shrewd oriole]

Wowhead has all changes

[calm hollow]

idk, i have a toon there played there for a while in wrath/mop

[supple hearth]

Illidan cause thats my realm ^^

[shrewd oriole]

Ilidan looks like a solid realm

In terms of Availability of raiding guilds and general player numbers

[prime void]

its a great realm- you get to have solid block chinese addons

[vivid flame]

Hi guys

Pick a legendary - ring or pants (will of valeera)

[strange python]

which ring

[vivid flame]

Insignia of the grand army

[prime void]

keep yourself simmed

so sim yourself

[vivid flame]

Have bracers as my other legendary

Ring is better sim wise

[prime void]

so...

[supple hearth]

@prime void no

[prime void]

no what

[manic vigil]

do you wanna build a snowman sing

[vivid flame]

Plz comment on rotation, stealth, garote, mut, rupture, kb, tb, vendetta, mut till 4+ cp, vanish, rupture, mut, envenom, dot refresh

[prime void]

?

[shrewd oriole]

AHAHAHA

Nice one mizu

[prime void]

tf did I do?

im confused

[supple hearth]

@vivid flame have you read the guide

[prime void]

im still confused on what I was told no about

[quiet junco]

so is this telling me i should keep going with mast/crit?

im bout 190 mast 30 crit an 8 vers...wondering if i should get a little vers

[supple hearth]

follow the sim

[quiet junco]

im not a pro at sims, so following it would be mast an then crit still?

[supple hearth]

yes

[quiet junco]

kk ty

[supple hearth]

keep stacking as much mastery as you can , followed by crit, and then vers if you cant get the first two for some reason

avoid haste at all costs

[quiet junco]

ight, just wanted to make sure i was tracking on what the sim said

[neon thunder]

hey guys, im just trying out assassination (came from sub) now that i have the artifact at 75. quick question regarding rupture and mutilate. should i mutilate at 3 CP? i have been reading and watching some videos. people say you should mutilate at 0-2 CP but not 3 +CP to avoid overcapping. is this the case? in that instance where you have both garrote and rupture up and not near expiry, do i just envenom at 3CP?

[fiery nest]

dont envenom at 3

[neon thunder]

so i should still mutilate regardless there

[sour wraith]

unless your envenom buff is about to fall off and you have kingsbane up, yes you should mut again

[prime void]

^ no

[neon thunder]

lol confusing me

[wise frigate]

Yes, Mut at 3 CP.

[prime void]

what dark said was wrong

never env at 3cp regardless of scenario

its a dps loss

[neon thunder]

okay so in the instance dont worry about overcapping CP aite got it

[prime void]

👌

[merry plover]

It's okay to let a couple cp overflow from the crits as far as I've read

[wise frigate]

Pretty much. Mut at 3 or less. Finish at 4 or 5.

[honest pelican]

here i was ready to knock class campaign out in a few hrs

only to find another 5 1hr quest mission

then im basically done

[honest pelican]

does ravenholdts special abiltiy as a CA still work in pvp in world

[safe matrix]

I don't think so

Or atleast it would work at massively reduced effect

And all class campaigns have the mission time gating

[vapid moth]

Ca ?

[safe matrix]

Combat ally

[vapid moth]

Ew lol

[honest pelican]

yea, i thouht i had done it

cuz there aws 4 1hr missions near the startr

gonna just use meatball as CA, since he can be 200% on most missions alone

i dont realy want to unlock all of argus for lightforge equip when 12 other toons have it, for gold/rep farming

[hazy tendon]

@spare cloud I appreciate your input. I could have sworn that I had a conversation on this discord previously with someone regarding envenom use and the 3 point use being better here. I have seen my dps go up but maybe I'll swap back, could just be that I'm seeing a number reflective of your gear upgrades. If there is anyone here who is pro 3cp envenom, I'd love to hear your input as well. Statistically it makes sense to me but pretty much no one supported it from the earlier conversation

[honest pelican]

i do need argus/broken isles wormhole

[hazy tendon]

Of my gear upgrades****

[honest pelican]

need dat blingtron BI wormhole

and argus one

argus one requires the full storyline done tho

[spiral escarp]

Hey guys, which dummies do you use to measure dps? The ones in the class hall drop their health way too fast to give proper results when wearing wrists. And the ones in stormwind city seem to miss/parry a lot even though I’m standing behind.

[safe matrix]

We generally sim our stuff on raidbots

And grab Warcraftlogs from raid bosses

@hazy tendon the guide says 4+

There's only one time you can get away with a 3 point envenom and that's to maintain 100% uptime in kingsbane

[hazy tendon]

Which guide are you referring to @safe matrix

[safe matrix]

The one in the pins

Or at the top of the discord channel

Basically the only sin guide we peddle around here

Cause icy veins is trash

You should really give it a read, it's really well done and if you're asking that sort of a question

You probably have other baseline problems too that can be resolved by reading the guide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[hazy tendon]

Well I sim what I put out so I dont think Im suffering honestly but I havent read the guide here, so I'll give it a look

I'm not seeing much of a difference between this one and the IV one. Couple items here and there but overall about the same. the 3cp discrepancy is the only thing I'm picking up here, which I do appreciate. I think maybe the reason I see such high CP wastes in analyzer when going for 4 is maybe my crit%. I have 41% crit, which is obviously too much

[fervent beacon]

41% too much?

[hazy tendon]

From my discussions with the couple ranking rogues Ive spoken to and what I have read throughout guides, I should be aiming for 30% crit. Is this not the case?

[jovial kite]

sim it

is the only real case you can get

with 41% crit you should probably go ep anyways

[hazy tendon]

EP?

[jovial kite]

ElAbOrAtE pLaNnNnNnInG

[hazy tendon]

Ah

[jovial kite]

and even with high crit you shouldnt waste much if you finisher at 4

[hazy tendon]

Ill give EP a shot

Ayyyyy 50K increase on sims

[jovial kite]

[safe matrix]

You might wanna try out mizus build too

I'll just have to get it rq

[hazy tendon]

Me love you all long time. Since EJ went mia, I havent really had anywhere for theory crafting beyond running my own sims and shit

I appreciate your time

[jovial kite]

npnp

[safe matrix]

boots ring, ep subt tb

Insig ring*

[hazy tendon]

Im using the bracers and ring. I dont have shoulders. I have every other legendary except Amon and Soul

Raven ring

[fervent beacon]

boots insig was fun for + tbh, don't know why I did it tho.

[gilded yacht]

Is there a place I can upload a link to my logs for antorus and figure out why I'm doing bad and how I can improve? :s

I keep doing really bad, like below 25th percentile bad, haven't been able to figure out why

Like I know I can be bad, but I know I'm not usually that bad 😆

[zealous dew]

shoot a log here

someone will destroy you

and you will be sad for life 😃

[gilded yacht]

Here :v
It's just normal antorus, but still

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gQw6NVXt19hJMPGB/

I know I'm being bad, but I don't know why I'm being bad.

My character is Simaia for reference

[zealous dew]

which fight you want to check

[gilded yacht]

let's say, Aggramar maybe.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gQw6NVXt19hJMPGB/#fight=15&view=rankings

it's pretty low at 15 percentile

there's a few others like that too

[safe matrix]

Vari is the easiest to check

Cause no mechanics

[gilded yacht]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gQw6NVXt19hJMPGB/#fight=8&view=rankings
Vari here

17 percentile

[zealous dew]

mmm you just started gearing rogue right ?

[gilded yacht]

Kinda, they been around for a bit but just recently started doing antorus runs to get gear

most my gear comes from timewalking chests and weekly events

[zealous dew]

yeah imagined, first of all neck enchant is just no

trained soldier

then get rid of all that haste gear (if you can)

[gilded yacht]

Really? I frankly have been going off what Ask Mr Robot for gearing enchants and such.

[zealous dew]

play vigor when you can replace the soul ring

[safe matrix]

Use raidbots

Pretty much no one uses amr these days

[gilded yacht]

Oh. Well then. 😆

[zealous dew]

your opener is terrible with mantle

https://gyazo.com/ac9e56c6dd090509d25df583e49bb0ad

this is pure garbage

garrote (from stealth) mut, rupture, vendetta tb kb vanish env mut env mut env

potion pre-pull please

second vanish into rupture just no if you play mantle

then 2x mut in vanish, 3 cp wasted

[safe matrix]

you should read the guide in the pins if you're making all these rookie mistakes

It's probably the easiest path to self improvement^^

[zealous dew]

this needs some wwork

you let rupture fall off

yeah, start reading this and work on a dummy for hours

you can log your dummy tries

!singuide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[gilded yacht]

Curious, I was kind of under the impression I should use rupture at full combo points. That isn't the case?

[safe matrix]

Use finishers at 4+

Like the guide says

[zealous dew]

rupture dmg is not affected by cp spent

only duration

[gilded yacht]

Oh whoa wait why does it want Toxic Blade before Kingsbane?

[safe matrix]

Because kb has initial damage then a dot

[zealous dew]

because it buffs the dmg of initial hit

[gilded yacht]

Does that initial damage outweigh the last few ticks of KB then?

[zealous dew]

and you pretty much want to use it on cooldown

it depends on applications and a lot of factors but they have different cds and if you wait a lot you lose dmg overall

[safe matrix]

I mean you don't really want to hold tb

Because then you tend to lose a cast of tb over a fight

Which is a dps loss regardless