assassination

[shrewd oriole]

Pull 10 is like 250

[drifting cloud]

ranks are weird weve dropped almost 15 since killing argus

[shrewd oriole]

Did you know

They extended this week

To kill argus

[drifting cloud]

I guess its when guilds faction swap or some shit

hey we are reprogging aggra every week apparently 🤷

[shrewd oriole]

Extending on farm btw

[lethal heart]

so many guilds changed to horde

🤔

[dire spoke]

Guild I join would have been better tho, they had orga issues due to broken hardware in leading pos

so 🤷🏻

[shrewd oriole]

What guild and what server?

[vapid moth]

Moonguard

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz 270 exactly is an alliance guild

Sure hope you’re not joining an alliance guild

[dire spoke]

Innervision-Blackmoore

[vapid moth]

What’s wrong with an alliance guild

[shrewd oriole]

You have to be alliance

That’s what’s wrong

[vapid moth]

Oh ok

Thought it was a belf issue

[shrewd oriole]

Belfs don’t have much impact in raiding

If anything troll is the biggest difference in raiding between alliance and horde

In terms of racials

[shrewd notch]

aoe silence is pretty good

[shrewd oriole]

The real difference is in recruitment

Cuz there’s a lot more horde players

[vapid moth]

What’s troll racial

[shrewd oriole]

Haste

[drifting cloud]

3/11 alliance wiping on PK because no belfs <now recruiting>

[shrewd oriole]

Active

It’s probably the best racial in the game

[vapid moth]

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic

[shrewd oriole]

No I’m serious

Go on hero damage and check caster classes

Troll sims highest for nearly all of them

[vapid moth]

Oh for casters. Not rogue specific

[shrewd oriole]

Nah

Rogue it’s human

Or dwarf

[vapid moth]

Yeah

Anyway. I just now realize why my pugs always have PK trouble

[manic vigil]

Tom explain your name please

[shrewd oriole]

Tom

It’s not that hard

[manic vigil]

[dire spoke]

Thomarse

[manic vigil]

Can we ban Tom again? I already feel bullied

[vapid moth]

Your presence brings me discomfort

I must go to my safe space

[shrewd oriole]

😎

[shrewd oriole]

It’s different on mobile 😦

[manic vigil]

On phone can see the emojis

But I still don't get it

[manic vigil]

[strange python]

My phone is too dumb to see them

[echo estuary]

how do i get the fast thonk emote =/

[lone junco]

🤔

[echo estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/431583268555456512.gif?v=1

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole ran a teeming fort lower as sub. 💸

[steep obsidian]

teeming lower

ewww

[shrewd oriole]

😫😫😫😫

[lone junco]

Arcane/Ele/Sub. was nice to see some 15-25m-30m numbers

arcane needs a bop, but man, its good

the double shaman stun totem deems to be enough

[mighty star]

Why do people describe Assassination as "easy to play but hard to master?"

[strange python]

How dare you betray sin rogue

[shrewd oriole]

Never heard anyone say that

[lone junco]

easy. Have you ever cloak fokked a trash pack?

[shrewd oriole]

Assa is easy to play and easy to master

Lul

Most specs are easy to play

And hard to master

That’s sorta the nature of the game

[lone junco]

yeah. check the % performance charts ? at like 25 35 55 65 95 sin is top 2.

that means it is easy

[steep obsidian]

i should actually keep doing tos to try and get some decent glaives but who cbf with that

just pray to get from cache every few weeks and be dissapp

my tank friend has 940 on 2 of this tanks

[lone junco]

our prot pal uses them. he bursts pretty hard.

[steep obsidian]

might actually play sub this week it normally too much overkill in the comp i run

[lone junco]

so we stagger

[steep obsidian]

but we pushing high so meh

[mighty star]

Where does the "hard to master" part come in for sin?

[lone junco]

kinda isnt.

just needs gear

[strange python]

Hard to master having faith in poison bomb

[shrewd oriole]

Perfecting dot up times, understanding decision making

[mighty star]

LOL

[lunar notch]

Not using toxic blades on CD ? Is hard for some ppl

[shrewd oriole]

But it’s not a particularly hard spec

[lone junco]

If you dont have gear, it will be shit.

[steep obsidian]

my resto druid friend was doing 2 mill dps on trash just from his bear moonfire crap

[shrewd oriole]

But you use Tb on cd

Lmao

[steep obsidian]

it funny when he pulls agro on shit

[drifting cloud]

vanish cheap shot < hard to master

[lone junco]

it is a forgiving simple spec.

i love

[shrewd oriole]

Why would you not use Tb on cd in the majority of cases

🤔

[lone junco]

tb is bleh in M+ cleave.

but w/e

[mighty star]

tb style abilities are so boring

[shrewd oriole]

What

Tb is one of the few interesting parts of assa

[steep obsidian]

if vendetta was actually a self buff sin would be a million times better for dungeons :\

[shrewd oriole]

If it wasn’t for tb all we would do is rupture and keep env buff

Lmao

[lone junco]

vendetta as a buff would not be sin rogue.

[mighty star]

IDK, I hate the "use on CD" style skills like CD and the entirety of Windwalker rotation

[lone junco]

its a niche thing that burns sometimes.

[steep obsidian]

its just annoyin as hell is all

[drifting cloud]

just declare vengenance against whole dungeon lore problem solved

[shrewd oriole]

So you hate most cooldown

[mighty star]

like TB*

[shrewd oriole]

Gotcha

Cuz most cds are used on cd

[steep obsidian]

coz you know if you vendetta something everyone will blow up that same thing as you

[lone junco]

Hard to master is outlaw bracers

[steep obsidian]

why is that hard?

[mighty star]

Well, long CD skills are different than short CD skills

[lone junco]

sub dfa isnt complex. but punishing if you fuck it up

[steep obsidian]

i havent played it much but it didn

t seem that bad

[shrewd oriole]

How

You used them on cd lol

[mighty star]

Long CD skills you can afford to hold onto because you won't lose one in a fight

Depending on CD and fight length

[lone junco]

outlaw bracer timing of bb procs is really annoying to me.

[shrewd oriole]

Holding onto vendetta

[mighty star]

short CD skills you absolutely have to spam on CD or you lose one

[shrewd oriole]

Now that’s my favorite

[steep obsidian]

ewww

[shrewd oriole]

There’s a lot more scenarios

Where you hold Tb

[mighty star]

I didn't say "vendetta"

[lone junco]

I dislike DH dash for momentum in ST

[shrewd oriole]

Than scenarios where you hold vendetta

[lone junco]

I get that

[keen inlet]

@lone junco RTB Outlaw on live is a very "fluid" priority

[lone junco]

its what 4 sec?

[shrewd oriole]

So you’re just wrong tbh

You don’t need to say vendetta, we are on an assa rogue channel

[mighty star]

Um what? I'm wrong for not liking something?

[shrewd oriole]

No, you’re wrong for saying you hold vendetta and don’t hold tb

[lone junco]

@keen inlet Ive been dabbling with shoulder insig. I love it so much more.

[mighty star]

All I said is I don't like "use on CD skills"

I never said you hold vendetta, you said that

[lone junco]

ok

[keen inlet]

People shit all over SND (and I roll my eyes) but I enjoy it

[lone junco]

free bones are neat

ngl

[keen inlet]

Shoulder insig is solid. It's not as braindead as DH, BM, several other specs

"braindead"

[shrewd oriole]

We must be having different conversations

[lone junco]

we hold vanish some times.

so tahts neat

[mighty star]

Vendetta isn't a "long CD skill you can afford to hold onto"

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah, it’s a long cd you can’t afford to hold onto

Lmao

[keen inlet]

tbh I miss the older days of wow when we had once-per-fight CDs

[spare cloud]

Why is tom unmuted

[keen inlet]

that weren't possible to cram mults in on

@spare cloud Because it was a temporary mute, 24 hr.

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet like stampede?

I miss stampede 😦

[spare cloud]

[mighty star]

Yeah, I was saying I miss those style of abilities

And you assumed I was referring to Vendetta

[spare cloud]

like

breath of sindragosa?

[mighty star]

(which I wasn't)

[shrewd oriole]

Long is very subjective

The way Jose worded it was 30 times better

[keen inlet]

• !warn @shrewd oriole Don't @ me or my daughter ever again

[mighty star]

Well, I guess

[spare cloud]

@ Don Jose

[strange python]

Like vanish?

[mighty star]

I didn't think you'd assume the context you did

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth

Whatcha gonna do

@keen inlet

[keen inlet]

you realize spam-tagging mods is a bannable offense

[shrewd oriole]

I tagged you AND your daughter

Ahahah

[keen inlet]

I'm not gonna mod it

but

it is

[spare cloud]

Ban him

[shrewd oriole]

MonkaS

[sharp viper]

he did not learn from his mute

ban him

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t dad

Don’t do it

[mighty star]

When do you hold onto TB?

I see to get it to line up with Kingsbane on the guide

is that it?

[spare cloud]

https://www.strawpoll.me/15446373

[manic vigil]

Tom

[shrewd oriole]

If vendetta is coming up within the next 4 seconds

[sharp viper]

if you cannot get value out of most of the debuff

like fast dying adds

[shrewd oriole]

^ that too

[manic vigil]

Free for 30min and already pissing off don

[mighty star]

Ah ok

[shrewd oriole]

Plenty of situations where you hold tb

[mighty star]

IDK, maybe Windwalker just left me with a bad taste in my mouth where it's basically just using everything on CD

[shrewd oriole]

Did you have chest?

[mighty star]

Nope

[strange python]

I'm the only vote

[spare cloud]

100% of the people voted yes

so ban

[strange python]

Goodbye Tom

[keen inlet]

every
day

[shrewd oriole]

Chest makes the gameplay of monk a lot cooler

[sharp viper]

you got memes of yourself ready at hand for editing jose?

[mighty star]

That's unfortunate

[spare cloud]

trying to avoid moderation by ignoring accusations

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet cmon Jose you know ou love me

You say these things in public

But in private you’re all like

[keen inlet]

@sharp viper If you can't meme yourself into oblivion

Then you shouldn't meme at all

just my opinion tho

[mighty star]

I wish more legendaries would become either Azerite bonuses, baseline, or talents, because a lot of them are really cool

[shrewd oriole]

Tommy don’t get banned I’d miss you you’re such a good rogue

[manic vigil]

The answer is never to be a nazi

So that's an easy choice

[mighty star]

Like Outlaw bracers

[shrewd oriole]

Legendários are dope

Once you have them all

Which is the problem with the system

[keen inlet]

@manic vigil apparently a small but non-zero part of the USA disagrees with you.

(Off-topic btw)

[shrewd oriole]

I’d omega lul but I can’t so just pretend I omegaluld

[sharp viper]

isn't there some old saying that say "if you love something, ban it on discord"? at least that's what my mama used to tell me when i a little niño

[spare cloud]

Can you please take the off topic to general?

[shrewd oriole]

We should

[mighty star]

Well, part of what makes legendaries suck is it contributes to the problem of having a very small set of available gear be an upgrade

[shrewd oriole]

I try to use general but no one does 😦

[spare cloud]

I tried to migrate

[mighty star]

Since anything in the same slot as a legendary won't be an upgrade

[keen inlet]

"general"
🤔

[spare cloud]

but i dont have big enough influence to cause mass immigration

[manic vigil]

@keen inlet sad but true

[shrewd oriole]

2p 4p legendários

[spare cloud]

into general

[shrewd oriole]

You have like 4 pieces of gear you can get

[keen inlet]

🤔

[mighty star]

Yeah

Then you get a piece of gear that's 50 ilvls higher than your current but still a downgrade because of secondary stats 🤣

(hyperbole but still)

[echo estuary]

nobody wants to help a comrade to acquire fast thonk emote 😦

[manic vigil]

Get nitro and steal it

[echo estuary]

what's nitro

[spare cloud]

[shrewd night]

[spare cloud]

Nitro is the premium of Discord

[echo estuary]

i see

looks like Don needs fast thonk too

[spare cloud]

I'm starting with topology on monday btw

perelman

already excited

[echo estuary]

this early?

[spare cloud]

its second semester for us

https://gyazo.com/818a7ae6bfbac93f640b9984acbd55fd

[echo estuary]

ah

they want 5$ for nitro, preposterous!

[manic vigil]

Worth it

[lone junco]

https://twitchemotes.com/sub/1

[vernal adder]

[lone junco]

i mean, discord is great. and i would pay for it. but no way am i paying for emojimotes.

[echo estuary]

you would pay for discord?!

[lone junco]

there is no ad revenue. and content should be paid for.

programs arent free.

id pay like 1 or 2$ a mo

just like raidbots. Great site. not free to run.

[steep obsidian]

i mean i use discord a lot and it works well its probably worth a bit of cash

used to pay for a friggin ts server that was shit

back in the day

[lone junco]

we paid for a guild ventrilo. and tbh, the quality was way better.

but this is free.

[steep obsidian]

we ended up swapping to mumble and a dude setup a server at his work which didn't cost us anything

and mumble is open source

so legal

[manic vigil]

Communicating with those emojis is just way better. Totally worth it

I'd use those for everything everywhere

[steep obsidian]

I wonder how many people actually use the battelnet voice stuff for wow nowadays I notice that alpha tries to get ya to join a server but fails or something when you join a group

[manic vigil]

Even irl

Just need a display

[vernal adder]

[steep obsidian]

I don't get the paying for emotes thing but lots of peopel like it

[manic vigil]

[steep obsidian]

worked ok for twitch

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vernal adder]

[manic vigil]

I think if rh had some good emojis I wouldn't bother either

But they are buzz kills up there so here we are

[lone junco]

@steep obsidian we use bnet voice for officer com. lets you use a 2nd keybind for a specific target group

[vernal adder]

[lone junco]

it sounds really good.

[steep obsidian]

im pretty sure that my old guild used binds in ts or something

like officers would hold down a different key to chat together or somethin

can you even do that in discord

[manic vigil]

Good question

I don't think so

[lone junco]

you can not

you can in vent.

[manic vigil]

Might be addons tho

I used to have a whisper group back in the day in ts

To make fun of our raid

[lone junco]

you can use bnet voice with a 2nd keybind

Lalt Ralt

[manic vigil]

But I don't see a need for that function tbh

[steep obsidian]

well it would be useful i guess in some situations but not many would use it

[vernal adder]

Nelbur would use it to shit talk

[echo estuary]

paying for a chat programme, no. that's where i draw the line

[steep obsidian]

i remember when I did spoils in mop back in the day we had 2 mumble channels so we either side wouldnt use it to distract each other but the rl could hear both

was useful

i mean like

[manic vigil]

Just flame people when everyone can hear

[steep obsidian]

its a service that you use

[manic vigil]

I hate secret discussions etc

[vernal adder]

they are about you Unimatrix

[steep obsidian]

like if you aren't paying them any money for the service what are they doin? sellin all ya data n shit?

[vernal adder]

doxx you

[shrewd oriole]

I use ts in my guild

The quality and reliability is a lot better

[lone junco]

our officers yell at each other plenty

best to keep it in a direct bind option

[honest pelican]

can you literally fok spam your way thru mage tower on ass? this video is old, 940 leggo 916ilvl guy with will and outlaw boots. and hes just fok spam spam spam. now i assume itd be even easie to do that? other videos ive seen have straight damage, rupture x3, deadly poison all 3, etc no fok spam

[lone junco]

helps me keep my cool when talking about strat revisions.

@honest pelican kidney the WW kick the caster. Blind the Meta.

pick up the explosive orbs.

thats it.

[manic vigil]

@steep obsidian that's how it works usually yes

[steep obsidian]

you can use leeching poison prydaz and valeeras and just about rll your face on keyboard

nowadays

[lone junco]

leech pridaz.

CD doesnt help anything.

prydaz bracer.

[honest pelican]

no prydfaz, only boe leggo boots and will of valeera

[lone junco]

k pants boots. Rupture them all until the cc.

[manic vigil]

Everything that's "free" really isn't basically

[lone junco]

then dont break the blind

[honest pelican]

yea, i got the blind ready for focus on empower

[steep obsidian]

it cna help if you screw up but you could probably just blow them up befor ethey do anything

like that other guy said stun one cast

[honest pelican]

kidney shot the whirlwind, do you even have to tho? this one guy didnt, he just ran away

[steep obsidian]

burn through shield and interrupt other

and you all go

od

[lone junco]

just do those things and you will win at 905.

[steep obsidian]

but yeah leeching posion will help ya if you let a bomb go off or something

or face tank the enrage for a few shits

hits

[lone junco]

feint for heals if you need.

just dont face tank kidney and blind and get orbs. no reason not to use the cc.

should be a 1shot at 960

[steep obsidian]

i did it on my ret paladain recently at like 930 i dont even remember when i did it on rogue

but its one of the easier ones even back in early tos

[echo estuary]

they should really add fast thonk to the pool of generic emotes

[manic vigil]

Such obsession

Much wow

[echo estuary]

look at that pristine craftsmanship

[manic vigil]

It is pretty neat, yes

[spare cloud]

[echo estuary]

:FastThonk:

[spare cloud]

Nice try

[keen inlet]

:FastThonk:

how do I not have that

[echo estuary]

see, senor Don needs it too

[spare cloud]

[manic vigil]

Let's start a petition to get proper rh emotes

[spare cloud]

No

[manic vigil]

Who to harass tho?

We can just send Tom

He can take it

[gaunt moat]

rare

[echo estuary]

You know that new s9 phone has a quality slowmo camera

[gaunt moat]

he's in charge of that

[echo estuary]

Someone should make a slow mo of fast thonk

[manic vigil]

Thanks. Tom as our voted spokesperson will approach him soon

What could go wrong

[shrewd oriole]

Hmm

I’d do it but I can afford nitro so

[spare cloud]

Dont help the poor

[echo estuary]

i can't afford it either

[shrewd oriole]

José is the wanna be Robin Hood not me

[manic vigil]

Oh right I forgot about the elitist irl thing

We need a better representative then

[echo estuary]

i would have voted for Flowi but he was exiled

[manic vigil]

I only chose you because you will get banned eventually anyway

[supple hearth]

@shrewd oriole how dare u ping me and make me search for the notification. I will spoon u to death.

[spare cloud]

Please ban Tom

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

he's had many warnings

[shrewd oriole]

@echo estuary flowi wasn’t banned

He left

[manic vigil]

2 mods thumbs up

Uhoh

[spare cloud]

Sorry tom

remember that I love you

[shrewd oriole]

You should stick to kpop

Clearly you can’t appreciate my European talent

[spare cloud]

I'm sorry but

[echo estuary]

Flowi exiled himself

[spare cloud]

what talent are you talking about?

[echo estuary]

he couldn't take it anymore

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve perfected shitposting

[spare cloud]

Xaethron is a better shitposter than you

[shrewd oriole]

Who hurt you today

Are you at work

You’re extra grumpy ahaha

[spare cloud]

I'm not grumpy

I'm just givin you some tough love

[manic vigil]

Been there Tom

You'll learn to love it

[echo estuary]

not involving lederhosen i hope?

[keen inlet]

Flowi realized Riff's salt mine was a better environment for him

😄

[spare cloud]

No they cause my skin to get irritated

Lederhosen suck

What is Riff's salt mine?

[keen inlet]

Flowi is an extremophile. Happiest in areas of extreme saltiness

[echo estuary]

that's a new word for me

[keen inlet]

Riff's server, has a bunch of RH folks (and ex-RH folks)

[shrewd oriole]

Idd

[spare cloud]

Who is Riff

[keen inlet]

I call it his salt mine because tho I love him, Riff is omegasalty about most things

he was a guide writer and rogue here for some time

[echo estuary]

i just know he's Finnish

[spare cloud]

Why is it that all rogues turn rogue after some time here

[shrewd oriole]

Hmm

🤔

[manic vigil]

I only saw riff a couple times

[echo estuary]

and Finns dont appreciate Russians

[manic vigil]

He was always mean

[shrewd oriole]

I never met riff

Sounds like a cool dude

[manic vigil]

Kind of like flowi really

[spare cloud]

I want to learn russian

[gaunt moat]

😂

[spare cloud]

but its hard

[manic vigil]

Always annoyed when spoken to

[shrewd oriole]

Flowi wasn’t mean

[safe tiger]

normally on st, do people have higher dmg from rupture dot or kingsbane dot?

[spare cloud]

Flowi didnt seem annoyed when I was talking to him

maybe thats just you @manic vigil

[manic vigil]

Not spoken to by me

I wouldn't have dared

[shrewd oriole]

I spent like 20 hours playing duo with flowi and he said maybe 10 sentences

[keen inlet]

SO HOW ABOUT THEM DAGGERS THO

[shrewd oriole]

[spare cloud]

[honest pelican]

just want mage tower up so i can do ass rog, frost and fire mage

[echo estuary]

hey this is a channel for actual rogue counseling, gogi needs a hand

[keen inlet]

how about

them

POISONS.

[manic vigil]

Right on topic

[shrewd oriole]

YES

[manic vigil]

Erm

[shrewd oriole]

poisons

[manic vigil]

Pretty good

Huh

[keen inlet]

whoops

[spare cloud]

@safe tiger depends on the build you play

[keen inlet]

discord just hiccoughed

[shrewd oriole]

Rest In Peace general

[safe tiger]

standard?

1-1-3-3-1

poison build

[spare cloud]

Kingsbane

unless heavy cleave

[safe tiger]

every time i inspect other assas rogues

[spare cloud]

with targets being alive for a long time

[safe tiger]

their rupture does more dmg than kingsbane

[strange python]

should be rupture tbh

[safe tiger]

while my kingsbane is always more dmg than rupture

[shrewd oriole]

Just check logs

What an odd question

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/2face8e97250ad607208b5dd15904cca

from my mythic garothi

[sharp viper]

probably 140% deadly poison proc chance

[safe tiger]

you know how you are supposed to toxic blades at the last 9 seconds off kingsbane

i didn't know you are not supposed to do that on the opener

[strange python]

what was that avg kingsbane dmg there

[safe tiger]

for way to long

[spare cloud]

Only boss rupture does more dmg than kingsbane for me is probably coven

[shrewd oriole]

You’re not supposed to do that ever gogi

[strange python]

in general, it is worse to use tb to buff kb

[shrewd oriole]

You just Tb on cd

[spare cloud]

its not worse

its just bad to delay toxic blade

for it

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah it is

It sims worse lol

[spare cloud]

[safe tiger]

i am supposed to hold blades if they come on cd 5sec before kingsbane?

[shrewd oriole]

Check simulation channel

It’s been discussed tons of time

[spare cloud]

did you read what I said

[shrewd oriole]

Times

“It’s not worse”

Yeah it is

[spare cloud]

do you just read the first line

and not what follows up?

[strange python]

I would say no because then you have to wait until another 5 seconds for kingsbane to get to 9 seconds

So you are shaving off 10 seconds

[shrewd oriole]

I read the second line

But the first line is wrong

Even wth the second line

Lmao

[spare cloud]

What

[echo estuary]

wat

[shrewd oriole]

@safe tiger 5 seconds is fine

Not more than 5

[safe tiger]

yeah but that means

[spare cloud]

It doesn't matter how long you delay tb as long as you dont lose casts.

[safe tiger]

blades comes off cd

[echo estuary]

i need to use fast thonk now, this became confusing

[safe tiger]

kingsbane needs 5 seconds

thats fine right?

[shrewd oriole]

No

You tb

Then you kb

[spare cloud]

If you don't lose casts then you can do w/e you want

[shrewd oriole]

If both are up

[spare cloud]

If you dont lose casts you should use it at the point it buffs the most spells

[strange python]

yea fight length has a big factor in not losing casts

[safe tiger]

what do you mean i casts both

[spare cloud]

while still using the maximum amount of envenoms

[safe tiger]

if they up

what about the holding 5seconds

[shrewd oriole]

If they’re both up

You don’t hold for 5 seconds

[spare cloud]

So if you dont lose a cast then using it at 9 seconds of kb is better than using it at 12 seconds of kingsbane

[shrewd oriole]

Why would you hold for 5 seconds

[safe tiger]

so i can line blades with the last 5 seconds of bane

[shrewd oriole]

Christ

We just said that wasn’t a dps gain

[fervent beacon]

[shrewd oriole]

Over using tb kb

Are you reading

What I’m typing

[fervent beacon]

Tommy, do you need a snicker?

[safe tiger]

when did this change

[spare cloud]

We are saying 2 different things

[shrewd oriole]

Tb kb is a dps gain over kb wait tb

[spare cloud]

ofc

[strange python]

fucking hell, you can type in sentences

[spare cloud]

but i didnt say that

so why are you saying that what I said is wrong

[shrewd oriole]

I’m not taking to you

I’m talking to gogi

[spare cloud]

Because thats clearly not what I stated

[shrewd oriole]

I’m not talking to you

[spare cloud]

You did before

[keen inlet]

Can y'all two

type out a full sentence or take it to dm

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah, cuz what you said before was either poor English structuring or wrong

Now I was talking to gogi

[spare cloud]

@safe tiger 2 rules of thumb, if tb is ready shortly before kb then tb before kingsbane

@safe tiger if tb becomes ready after kb is already used, then tb at 9 seconds

[safe tiger]

aight, when i read the guides

[spare cloud]

in all other cases

tb on cd

[safe tiger]

i assumed it stated to always use tb on last 9 seconds

unless bane on on cd

[spare cloud]

thats not what guide says

[safe tiger]

is on cd*

[shrewd oriole]

Guide doesn’t say that tho

[safe tiger]

http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ is a good guide?

[shrewd oriole]

The guide is definitely not perfect but it doesn’t say to hold Tb for kb

[fervent beacon]

The damage will be roughly the same regardless so it's just better to TB whenever you can.

[spare cloud]

Yes it is a good guide.

[fervent beacon]

So you have more usage out of the talent.

[spare cloud]

No, always delaying for last 9 seconds is a clear loss

which was simmed many times

[safe tiger]

Use Toxic Blade either the last 8 seconds of Kingsbane duration or on cooldown. Do not delay your Toxic Blade more than 5 seconds waiting for Kingsbane. If Vendetta is coming up you can delay as well. was my problem

[strange python]

I said this earlier, i can see how someone could interpret that from the guide, the wording could be better

[shrewd oriole]

Or on cooldown.

[spare cloud]

@safe tiger just do what I wrote

and you're gucci

[shrewd oriole]

Or on cooldown

[strange python]

but the guide makes it seem using it for kb is perfectly viable compared to cd

[safe tiger]

i understand

[shrewd oriole]

That’s true

[keen inlet]

That's clear english, to me

EITHER.

in the last 8s, or on cd

[shrewd oriole]

Pretty clear to me

Don’t delay more than 5

[keen inlet]

the end

[spare cloud]

it clearly states 2 options

and if option 1 doesnt apply

you do option 2

[safe tiger]

sorry but from that point

[spare cloud]

its that simple

[safe tiger]

what i understood is

[safe matrix]

Speaking of snickers

[keen inlet]

Okay

[shrewd oriole]

That’s rather your poor understanding

[safe tiger]

blades are up, kingsbane needs 4 seconds

[spare cloud]

while following the condition

[safe matrix]

I haven't eaten in two days

[shrewd oriole]

And not poor English

[fervent beacon]

👀

[safe tiger]

i wait for kingsbane and i blade at 9 seconds left

[keen inlet]

Enough, enough

Gogi

Do you understand now?

[safe tiger]

so thats like 9 seconds tb later

[shrewd oriole]

That means you’re delaying 9 seconds

[steep obsidian]

is it even a huge difference from playing whackamole or delaying 5 secs like

bleh

[fervent beacon]

[shrewd oriole]

9 is more than 5

[steep obsidian]

i just get pbombs and im fine anyway

[keen inlet]

Y'all are literally arguing in circles.

Gogi, follow the guide. It's right in there. EITHER use it on CD or the last 8s of Kingsbane.

[safe tiger]

yes tommy, i understood it wrong

[keen inlet]

The end.

You don't need to defend yourself further.

Eesh.

[fervent beacon]

But don't delay using TB for more 5s.

[echo estuary]

so who else needs a snickers?

[safe tiger]

the guide is not as clear as id want it to be

[keen inlet]

@safe tiger Then write your own guide. 😉

And you can word things however you'd like.

[manic vigil]

Say. Y'all. One. More. Time.

[shrewd night]

AHAHAHA

Ironic

[keen inlet]

!warn @safe tiger Don't use perjoratives. Right in the rules.

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @safe tiger has been warned because 'Don't use perjoratives. Right in the rules.'.

[steep obsidian]

abusive someone who does shit for free coz they are just helpful seems to be not a good idea

but i guess that happen a fair bit

[manic vigil]

Also using cunt wrong wtf

Do you even Aussie

[keen inlet]

@safe tiger May I suggest a helpful guide for you in your future Discord visits:

GUIDE TO BEING A BETTER DISCORD USER:
http://www.ravenholdt.net/class-discords-the-basics/

[safe tiger]

you may

[shrewd night]

Plugging your own guide

What are you doing Don

[swift trout]

So if delaying TB up to 5 seconds doesn't put you in the last 8 second window of KB don't delay TB at all?

[shrewd night]

I thought you were better than that

[echo estuary]

i need to become a better discord user

[keen inlet]

When the shoe fits, I sell it

[fervent beacon]

@finite glen Would it be easier to tell you just to keep TB on cooldown?

I mean you can do that if you're really want to try parse but if you're just causal having fun time with your bros, I'd just keep TBonCD

[keen inlet]

TB on CD has been the recommendation (and meme) since the talent was introduced. If you are perplexed in the slightest by the 8s remaining/etc thing, just ignore it.

[echo estuary]

repent, heretic!

[strange python]

I think that reply was derogatory

"I think the guide's wording is confusing" "well go write your own xd"

[fervent beacon]

Nah, it was beautiful to see Don embracing the toxic

[keen inlet]

That's not what he said.

Your wording is fine. But it shouldn't have quotation marks. You're paraphrasing.

[fervent beacon]

I'm glad I got that SS of him calling Don the name

[spare cloud]

dont say SS

it offends me

[keen inlet]

He went back and deleted it all heh

[fervent beacon]

May be deleted, but its a treasure screen snap for my meme folder

[safe tiger]

you said it offended you?

ofc i deleted it

[fervent beacon]

It takes more than that to offend him but it's generally wise not to call shadowblade names

[keen inlet]

It didn't offend me, I laughed.

But it's against the rules, so whether it's deleted or not, goes in the log

[safe tiger]

i don't care about the warning, i was not aiming to offend

[shrewd night]

[fervent beacon]

Are you in Aus by any chance?

[keen inlet]

Anyway

[safe tiger]

and yeah, not trying to dodge the warning by deleting it

[keen inlet]

Let's just all move on eh

[fervent beacon]

Because I can understand why you're throwing out that word lol

[keen inlet]

Any alpha players in here

[spare cloud]

What have you guys had for breakfast today

[fervent beacon]

Nothing and I have to work soon

[echo estuary]

well this took the turn from fun to awkward

[keen inlet]

I haven't tested Sin yet

[fervent beacon]

[keen inlet]

on alpha

[strange python]

cinnamon toach crunch

[spare cloud]

I dont have a alpha key

[manic vigil]

Only outlul

[spare cloud]

I dont know why

[fervent beacon]

Why would you test sin when you should be testing outlaw

[strange python]

you aren't alpha enough

[fervent beacon]

Excuse me?

[keen inlet]

I have been testing outlaw tho

[fervent beacon]

See the yellow? Those are reserved for chadlaw.

[manic vigil]

Then what did you do?!

Transmogs and rp

Classic don

[spare cloud]

Mute Connor please

[fervent beacon]

oh shit, I swtiched to outlaw and i have no mog on beside cursed and it look decent

[spare cloud]

he's a troll

[strange python]

D:

[spare cloud]

and gives wrong infomation

[manic vigil]

Show me on the dolly where he touched you toph

[strange python]

monkaS

[fervent beacon]

[manic vigil]

Don just ignored me btw

[spare cloud]

I get where he is coming from

[manic vigil]

So predictable

[strange python]

you are not worthy of the Don

[manic vigil]

I'm disappointed toph

[spare cloud]

how utterly predictable

It smells like kebab here

I think I'm gonna go get some

[manic vigil]

Food

[keen inlet]

Sorry. Reading alpha forums

[manic vigil]

Oh I'm sorry sir

I wouldn't want to bother you with my mere mortal problems

[sharp viper]

i just ate my pasta but now i kinda wanna eat kebab

[manic vigil]

Vaeira gonna be fat soon

[spiral charm]

Wasn't sure which one to post in so move or delete this if must. Would it be worth rolling into subtlety or staying in assassination for raiding in antorus and doing mythic +? I'm not sure how far they are between eachother but was just wondering if one is out performing the other?

[sharp viper]

what do you mean soon

are you assuming i am thin atm

[manic vigil]

Yes

[sharp viper]

did you just assume my weight?! triggered

[manic vigil]

I judge people by their avatar

Looks thin to me

That's also why toph is an angry Asian woman in my head

[sharp viper]

well he probably is irl as well

[keen inlet]

@spiral charm Sub is good in both, sin's good in tyrannical M+ and "decent" otherwise. The gear overlaps quite a bit

[fervent beacon]

What Don said, both sub/sin favor mastery/crit gear so you can do sin for tyrannical or sub on fort week

[strange python]

sin is by far the most popular choice for raiding but sub is just fine

[sharp viper]

well maybe i go and grab some ice cream instead if the place is still open

got really great ice cream parlor 50m away from my house

[honest pelican]

mage tower for sin jsut hits really weak huh? even the videos i see with no will/prydaz whatever, crimson vial/leeching poison keeps them alive plenty

[fervent beacon]

or you just dodge bad things

🤷

[strange python]

yes it's stupid easy

[steep obsidian]

those items are just there to save you if you screw up

you dont need em way back in tos let alone now

[sharp viper]

assa is by far the easiest mage tower challenge

[steep obsidian]

i havent done them all so can't really comment there

the sub one didn't seem too bad in comparison

[manic vigil]

The outlul one took me 100 attempts I think

Rest is easy

[steep obsidian]

i struggled a little bit on bm hunter but that was more me just sucking then it being haard

[manic vigil]

Fair

[drifting cloud]

the ww monk one is even easier than assa

back then

[manic vigil]

I fucked up the affli challenge before I got the slow legendary

Because I didn't know there was cripple

[drifting cloud]

well the challenge itself is easier

maybe that specific one might be easier for assa

atleast from what I saw people ranking them

they rank the assa scenario 2nd easiest usually

ret and enh also have that one iirc and one warlock spec?

[shrewd oriole]

What’s a demo

I’ve seen that spec on alpha

[manic vigil]

Not good?

[shrewd oriole]

Demo is dope on alpha

[manic vigil]

Oh okay

Yeah that's what I keep hearing

[steep obsidian]

you can play demo on live rn if you wanted to

warler stream trolls him all the time and get him to play it in high keys and he does ok

[manic vigil]

It's a weird spec tho

The idea was alright

[steep obsidian]

to be honest if i was playing lock I'd want to play destro

[manic vigil]

But the way it's implemented

[steep obsidian]

that look most fun

[manic vigil]

Never liked destro

But maybe

Dat brag

I don't like ow

[strange python]

it's fun for a hot minute, and then it's not

[sharp viper]

exactly what connor wrote, it is hard for me to find long time motivation in it, although i am shit at fps

[steep obsidian]

i find i get frustrated as hell in fps games

I used to be good ages ago

so i guess that makes it worse

i had a ball playing custom game overwatch with friends but rated was 0 fun at all

[manic vigil]

Yeah I got it

My humor is just off today I think

Too woke for most people

[solid nova]

Stay woke folks

[manic vigil]

Preach it, brother

[fervent beacon]

Stay dead brothers

[shrewd oriole]

God

It’s so warm

It’s gonna be hard going back to London tomorrow

https://imgur.com/a/Y0dCD

Some dude pmd this asking if he should use it for assa in m+ earlier today

I was p tilted

[manic vigil]

[strange python]

did you say no

[drifting cloud]

there was a armory link literally day 1 or 2 after ilvl increased

some guy with 985 heroic glaives

it was a prot pala i fucking remember

[brisk surge]

I don’t have Slayer's Precision trait unlocked, I have 75 points in the my weapon.... can someone PM with a answer plz

[strange python]

What's the problem?

You should be able to unlock every part of your weapon without any quest gating (besides the crucible, of course)

[shrewd oriole]

I told him to never dm me again

If he ever used those glaives as assa

And not sub

[spare cloud]

Rude

[shrewd oriole]

Jk I didn’t say anything

I screencapped and sent to ashine

[spare cloud]

Liar

[shrewd oriole]

And told him that was an assa player

And he said some not so nice things

[steep obsidian]

huh?

[shrewd oriole]

@spare cloud

It’s true

[spare cloud]

Post ashine toxism

Pls

[shrewd oriole]

No

[spare cloud]

Why

Is he more toxic than you

[shrewd oriole]

Depends

More toxic than me on here or me normally

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz I’m a lot less toxic here than I am normally

[spare cloud]

Wait you are

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah lol

[spare cloud]

Havent seen that when i did stuff with you

[shrewd oriole]

Why would I be toxic with you

We are friends

But ask tisumi

[spare cloud]

Because friends are toxic to each other

[shrewd oriole]

I kicked a tank cuz he didn’t trade me a trinket

[spare cloud]

Thats how it works

[shrewd oriole]

And got the guy he traded it to to trade it to me

[strange python]

was it a 965 glaives

[spare cloud]

With gem

[vapid moth]

Question

Everyone always complains about macs and windows 10 but what alternatives are there

[strange python]

Answer

[shrewd oriole]

Nah

950 hounds trinket for my hunter

[spare cloud]

@vapid moth linux

[strange python]

Playing wow on a raspberry pi

[vernal adder]

w10 is fine

[vapid moth]

I’ve never had an issue with windows 10. Yet again I wasn’t really around when windows 7 existed

[shrewd oriole]

Are you 10

Is that toxic

[vapid moth]

It’s a poor attempt at being toxic. I’ll give you that much

[shrewd oriole]

So not toxic

Good

[vernal adder]

wtf is that drink

[shrewd oriole]

How were you not around for windows 7

@vernal adder vodka and passion fruit

It’s a local drink

[vapid moth]

I was like 10 when windows 7 was relevant

[vernal adder]

oh

[strange python]

drink is bigger than the sandwich

[vernal adder]

good

[vapid moth]

Why would my 10 year old self care what the software did

[shrewd oriole]

You’re a lot younger than I had previously envisioned you xaethron

Also that’s the correct ratio of food to drink Connor

[vapid moth]

I’ve told you I’m 17 before doe

[spare cloud]

Its not bad its just not good either

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

Windows 10 is ok

[spare cloud]

You are forced into some updates and shit

Ppl dont want to be forced

[shrewd oriole]

@vapid moth to me? I usually remember that kind of stuff

[vernal adder]

I never notice them

[shrewd oriole]

The other day w10 uninstalled some drivers on my laptop

Lmao

[steep obsidian]

i mean you can turn auto updates off if you want to

but youd be completely retarded to do so

[strange python]

uh oh, the r word

[steep obsidian]

😐

[vapid moth]

He gon get the warning

[zealous dew]

he's forgiven

[steep obsidian]

it the truth though

[calm grail]

Speaking of forced updates. You guys ever have W10 force alt tab you out of a game to be like "Hey bro it's update time"

[strange python]

or you start lagging to shit during a boss fight and lo and behold there's some background update

[dark crag]

any plans for win 11?

[strange python]

was about to answer but the article i found was written on april 1st

[dark crag]

man imagine if microsoft announces that win10 will be the last version

[manic vigil]

I'm still using win 8

[dark crag]

real men use win vista

[manic vigil]

also xaethron you are such a cute little baby. I even had a computer with win 3.11 on it

or did the first one only have dos?

I don't remember tbh

[echo estuary]

real men use windows95

age of empires on dat

[vernal adder]

windows millennium

[manic vigil]

no they really don't

[echo estuary]

hey it had minesweeper

[vapid moth]

I'm so young

[echo estuary]

esport ready

[manic vigil]

[vapid moth]

I can't talk to anyone my age about this shit

It's sad

[vernal adder]

Fortnite right?

[shrewd oriole]

Lmao

No questions today

Did we finally answer everything

[vernal adder]

What month should I come back to WoW?

[shrewd oriole]

August

What did you ask

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole drink def looks like scrambled eggs in orange juice.

[solid nova]

@shrewd oriole Crown - at least it wasn't kjs

[lone junco]

cmon people. lets go

lol

[solid nova]

Mantle, bracers, kj, belt and boots remain

[shrewd oriole]

Not too bad

[solid nova]

Yeah simming 100k more than what I had

Better than nothing

[lone junco]

jeeves bot is cool

the M:0 kills is wrong. but w/e

its also showing sub stats with sin title

[strange python]

was gonna say

seemed off

its ok jeeves tries his very bestest

[lone junco]

it was really fast. and the amory/rio/prog/log links are handy

[shrewd oriole]

Dead class

[calm grail]

Wherethebotat? @lone junco

Is that your bleed stats btw?

[lone junco]

jeeves channel

nah. thats sub stats on sin spec

id didnt update

im like 14500 crit or so

[calm grail]

I don't think we have a Jeeves channel here RIP

[tranquil birch]

Can you imagine how toxic that would make some people

[shrewd oriole]

How’s a Jeeves channel

Any more toxic than the bot channel

[young hamlet]

I have a question abou AoE with assassination

if there are 3+ targets should I use FoK or should I apply bleeds one by one ST?

[solid nova]

@shrewd oriole legit just got kjbw...

2 in 1 day poggers

Crown and kjs

[shrewd oriole]

@young hamlet yes

[strange python]

You can use fok and still apply bleeds...?

[shrewd oriole]

^

[young hamlet]

What I meant was use mutilate one by one

sorry i phrased it wrong

[shrewd oriole]

N

[solid nova]

No

[shrewd oriole]

You don’t use mut* if there’s two targets

[young hamlet]

so build CPs using FoK

and rupture every target

[strange python]

Ye

[shrewd oriole]

Spend them on rupture

[young hamlet]

yeah got it

I've played outlaw and combat so I'm trying assa this time aroung lol

Im assa in he alpha too

it seems fun

[shrewd oriole]

It’s a solid spec in alpha

Specially compared to most other specs

In particular rogue specs

[strange python]

If there's like 8 mobs you dont have to rupture them all. You want to get virtulent poisons rolling. Kind of have to use your best judgement of how many things to rupture.

[young hamlet]

yeah tahts the problem im kinda running into

[shrewd oriole]

If everything lives the whole rupture duration

[young hamlet]

at some point the first mobs rupture will fall

[shrewd oriole]

You wanna rupture everything

[young hamlet]

before I get them all

[shrewd oriole]

The only targets you don’t rupture is targets that die significantly faster than your rupture duration

[young hamlet]

yea

[shrewd oriole]

There’s no limit in how many targets you rupture

Well there is

But it’s like 30 or something

Weak Simmed itout the other day

[strange python]

u can rupture a low target to get energy back if u "slack"

[shrewd oriole]

At a ridiculously high number that will most likely never happen like 30 mobs you just fok

[young hamlet]

yeah the energy refund

[strange python]

fokwheels ?

[shrewd oriole]

You’re not low on energy

When you’re aoeing

Specially with the new tier bonus

[strange python]

probably i rupture one to two targets

[shrewd oriole]

So that’s only useful on specific fringe cases

[young hamlet]

what are the differences in DPS between alacrity and toxic blade?

[strange python]

and thats all