assassination

[manic vigil]

👎

[spare cloud]

Hes not bad at what he did to earn the money

I mean he might be a bad investo

[manic vigil]

[lone junco]

he inherited it.

but thats enough about that.

[spare cloud]

but he sure got enough charisma to keep getting funded

he got a small fund of a million dollars

I'm not sure what I would do with a million euros though

probably buy a house and invest the rest

so I'm set

[lone junco]

eat 78$ lobster like Tomm

[spare cloud]

Yeah blow all the money right away

[lone junco]

and buy a segment of private beach

[spare cloud]

seems like a good idea

an island for a million euros?

thats not a big island

[lone junco]

some people have more money than we/most comprehend.

I cant even wrap my head around the scale tbh.

[spare cloud]

then again you couldnt live your whole life with just a million

at least if you want to live an average one

[lone junco]

some are richy. Money strain isnt a thing. Like just has a card to swipe that gives him all the things.

[prisma cypress]

if you had a million dollars up-front the interest would stretch it out for a pretty long time

[lone junco]

esp 1m in the 60s.

and let it grow with the market.

[echo estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/393567983567372288.gif?v=1

[manic vigil]

Must be nice to be a frigging billionaire tho

[echo estuary]

mvp emote

[polar light]

🐵

[lone junco]

@manic vigil gotta stomp on the backs of the poor to get there. but yeah. prob very nice.

[manic vigil]

The former is the problem yeah

But I can barely imagine how it must be like

Never worry about money ever.

Must feel like a king

[lone junco]

I love the concept, that the smallest demnomination I will stop to pick up, is a quarter. 0.25$, but the equiv for bill gates to stop and pick up is like 35,000$ mound of cash. Like his worth is so high, he doesnt have the emotional time to bother with that little money.

[spare nebula]

You dont have to be a millionaire to not worry about money

err billionaire

or millionaire for that matter

[manic vigil]

True

[lone junco]

yeah, if your parents are rich, it helps

[manic vigil]

And yeah I like those thoughts as well noobe

Setting things into perspective

[lone junco]

money never mattered to me until wife/kids medical/car/house/daycare/retirement. POOF. ☁

[spare nebula]

I guess it also has to do with where you live, what you do etc

yeah if you're married, house, kids, all that shit

they totes

[manic vigil]

Well if you have to work, that counts

[spare nebula]

much harder to get out from under the 'money matters' thing

[manic vigil]

Being entirely free of that problem is what I mean

[spare nebula]

ohh

[lone junco]

its just a large stress. for ever

yeah. would be interesting to be free for a day or week.

[spare nebula]

sorry i didnt see that part

[lone junco]

Id totally get extra guac on my burrito at chipotle.

double guac. 👌

[manic vigil]

Noobe living the dream

I mean I know plenty of people who need purpose and all in their lives. I personally would be a perfect equilibrium dweller. Wake up if I want to, go do stuff if I want to. Well with endless potential the word equilibrium is wrong but you get what I mean

And with that kind of money you can find every purpose you want to I guess. Those guys live just a different level of life. Must be nice

[lone junco]

it would have strains of a different type.

social, and empathy limits.

Ive got a good balance rn. can get extra guac. kid can read, daycare is good.

[manic vigil]

Yeah you will have different strains for sure

Paranoia possibly

Losing your wealth must be a horrific thought

[lone junco]

Shaq had an interesting story.

he has a PhD in business now.

[knotty sinew]

anyone have a wa to show evenom when its about to fall off?

[lone junco]

@knotty sinew can make one, ifyou have any buff or debuff WA already

[knotty sinew]

i dont have on currently

[lone junco]

waigo has some good sets.

or w/e

after i got a pack, i ripped out the garbage, and make them myself now.

keeps from having extra garbage

[manic vigil]

Zempai has a nice suite but he doesn't share

[lone junco]

info overload is not good for me.

[manic vigil]

[dire spoke]

So fact is, if you have less than 10 ranged on M aggr the boss starts to inflict melees aswell - can rogues cloak and remove that debuff?

[lone junco]

plagued by melee. same

[dire spoke]

what

[manic vigil]

Where my warlocks at

[dire spoke]

it's a yes or no question

🤷🏻

[manic vigil]

It is

Let's wait

Might be quicker to try

[prisma cypress]

is warlock fun?

[manic vigil]

St sucks hard

But jumping around dotting shit is alright

Bad ariana

Don't booley people outta here you got a ton of alts too

[keen inlet]

demo is fun on alpha

So many pets

it's like zunimassa WD

[manic vigil]

I'll have to check it out. The idea of the redesign was good. The implementation however was not

Yeah I'll make it happen tisumi

When would suit you better

I'll buy blizzard and fire people for you

Done

[zealous dew]

ded game

[manic vigil]

How are the pants

It's been a while

[zealous dew]

dropped them, i'll wear them again aug 14th

my bday

[manic vigil]

Dropped your pants huh

To moon ion I suppose

He deserves it

[lone junco]

@keen inlet I would play a zuni wd. but the 5 mins i spent on demo, did not feel the same.

[manic vigil]

You have alpha too

[strange python]

Well kids

Make sure you always pack an extra pair of glasses

[manic vigil]

Call me kid. One. More. Time.

[strange python]

incase your current ones snap in half right before class

[zealous dew]

i haz no alpha ofc

[strange python]

🙃 🔫

[manic vigil]

Yeah that sucks hard I bet

I only have one pair that makes me paranoid frequently

I'm not sure tisumi

Where will you be

What could be more important

[echo estuary]

pretty much anything

=/

[zealous dew]

time to level rogue 3

[manic vigil]

Spoken like a normie

[lone junco]

I dont mind leveling 1 time. but the rest is garbo

@zealous dew did your outlaw hit 110 already?

[manic vigil]

Exams

Yeah that counts

Just have Tom pay someone for you

[keen inlet]

I love tomatoes

[zealous dew]

62 noobe

i do 1 level a day

starting rogue 3 and rogue 4 soon

[manic vigil]

Thanks for sharing don. I guess?

[strange python]

But noobe, the new leveling system is so immersive and fun

[echo estuary]

i like garlic

[keen inlet]

I'm eating

[strange python]

/s

[lone junco]

I like it. My lock is 40

[keen inlet]

a tomato and swiss sang

[manic vigil]

[keen inlet]

and it's 👌

[zealous dew]

outland is so bad though

[keen inlet]

applied to work at blizz?

[strange python]

You can skip outland

[lone junco]

@zealous dew too far apart?

[manic vigil]

You gonna catch up ez tisumi

[zealous dew]

yeah and loads of xp required

[echo estuary]

ariana doesn't need to work another day in her life, she's got that covered

[strange python]

If you level during a holiday event with a queue-able dungeon it speeds things up a lot

those dungeons always give a fuckload of xp

tell ariana to stop teasing new music and drop that shit

[dire spoke]

@gusty kestrel drop your shit

[manic vigil]

Outland is bad now funny, it used to be the easiest part

[dire spoke]

and give me your SC already

[strange python]

There are parts of northrend equally as insufferable

[manic vigil]

Pandakistan was always worst to me

I hate it with a passion

Outland meant flying and it was over so quickly. Best leveling ever

[lone junco]

cant you just spam dungeons at the same rate?

[manic vigil]

I do

But it's worse

[strange python]

Dungeons take a lot longer to finish now

[lone junco]

my q is like 4 mins. take 15-20mins

I guess eventually some one has to heal.

[strange python]

Yeah but, wait until cataclysm dungeons

[lone junco]

rn monk healers do most dps

[spiral escarp]

Hey bleed rogues :)
A question regarding the opener. I don’t seem to have the energy to do garrote > muti > rupture (out of energy at this point) > muti > vendetta(all good after this point)> .....
Is there anything I’m missing?

[sharp viper]

healing while leveling dungeons is very laid back, just watch your group frames and watch a movie or so

[manic vigil]

Did you just call me a bleed rogue

[sharp viper]

no he only addressed bleedy bois

[spiral escarp]

Rogues playing the bleed build with DS and Exang

[lone junco]

sec

[hidden plinth]

someone know if it is worth to take the shoes and bracers for kingaroth mythic or can't you use your vendetta on the boss and in every addphase?

[spiral escarp]

I swap the place of vendetta and that problematic muti to manage it. But I see in logs that this is not a problem for others.

[strange python]

Are you using tier 20 2 piece

[lone junco]

or

hey, those are teh same. imagine that

[keen inlet]

so

[lean hill]

I swapped from mantle bracers to mantle boots for mythic kin. You can vendetta every add and once between add phases no problem @hidden plinth

[keen inlet]

some bad news

[spiral escarp]

Exactly, Noobe. I do the same :)
But I was wondering how it is even possible to do it.

[lone junco]

possible? thats bonkers

[keen inlet]

It looks like Azerite trait choices will be fixed, not changeable

[lone junco]

you press the buttons

[keen inlet]

Travis: So, the goal – hopefully, if we do this right – the goal is to have abilities on the different rings of the tier that are applicable, both generally and specifically, so it is possible you may still have gear pieces that you prefer when you switch specs. And I think that’s kind of an interesting and healthy part of gameplay, right? Is collecting multiple gear sets and having those and having them have specific purposes and roles.```

[hidden plinth]

@lean hill thx for the fast answer good to know will try it

[strange python]

can you vendetta on pull and it will be up by the adds?

[spiral escarp]

Lol. Ofc you press the buttons. But the energy runs out so I need to wait to do next muti. While logs I see don’t have such a delay.

[lean hill]

No

Only 30 seconds from pull to first add

[strange python]

yea was wondering

[lone junco]

@spiral escarp post a log. I have zero problem with the opener.

[hidden plinth]

first add vendetta boss vendetta add vendetta works?

[lean hill]

You can only TB, or at least I only TB. Save the rest to burst the first add

[lone junco]

Garrote mut rupture vendetta mut mut vanish rupture exang is fluid

[strange python]

Kingsbane is up too

[lean hill]

Yea its tighter timing but you can vend every add and boss between every add

[hidden plinth]

yeah but the cd of kingsbane will lower in fight it has a 20-25 sec cd only

[lean hill]

I hold KB on pull due to the 45 seconds

[strange python]

I always kingsbane on pull

and it's up

But I don't do mythic so are the timings different

?

[spiral escarp]

Yes, moving vendetta before muti solves it. I just didn’t know how the other option is even possible.

[lone junco]

kingo timing is to tb/kb on pull then tb kb vendetta vanish on ads.

[lean hill]

The rest I just watch add spawn timer. If my stuff wont be up before add spawn I hold it

Not mythic though

[hidden plinth]

with the shoes vanish doesn't bring any benefits if you not run nightstalker so ...

[lone junco]

can run shoulder boots.

[sharp viper]

add spawn timers are the same on mythic (aka the rate at which he gains energy)

[lone junco]

for Kingo

[hidden plinth]

right ^^ doesn't thing about this ^^

[lean hill]

If you use KB on pull for mythic you may not even get to use it on the add

[lone junco]

if you want to squeeze a vendeta between adds wear boots.

[spiral escarp]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VHdNkRWXhjzga9Tb#fight=14&type=casts&source=3&view=timeline

[drifting cloud]

you get it back pretty easy

[sharp viper]

no you get it back in time for the add

sinister circulation helps with that

[lean hill]

If you run boots and 1 MA its definitely up for adds even with a usage between them

[lone junco]

@spiral escarp are you @ Cioxs#0989 ?

[spiral escarp]

No

This is a sample log

With that opener 😃

As I don’t have the energy to do it like that.

[quartz rune]

Hey guys is it possible to use Evasion to not get hit by the spinning Blades on Argus Mythic? (Phase 3)

[strange python]

He's using tier 20 2 piece so garrote costs less, are you using t20 2 piece?

[spiral escarp]

I wanted to ask if I’m missing anything:)

[sharp viper]

@quartz rune no

[spiral escarp]

Ahaaaa!!! No I’m not 😃

[manic vigil]

Where is Tom btw? Still muted?

[strange python]

there you go

[manic vigil]

I miss him

[spiral escarp]

@strange python thanks :)
So I will do it with vendetta first then

[lone junco]

@spiral escarp thats funny, I have like 1000 lines of dm with him about rotations.

[manic vigil]

He learned his lesson notter, set him free

[spiral escarp]

He’s my inspiration about the bleed build 😃

[manic vigil]

Okay I didn't buy that myself

[lone junco]

do you have 2p4p, do you have high enough crit

[sharp viper]

what did our wannabe saber do?

[spiral escarp]

I finally managed to get three MA high level relics yesterday 😃

[lone junco]

prob rude.

[spiral escarp]

And would like to swap

[manic vigil]

We need stories from Brazil

Yeah he said the nasty 3 letters

[lone junco]

@spiral escarp my guess is that you have less than 70% mut crit, and you are burning through the opener to get cps.

[spiral escarp]

I have 2p4p, but even without it I sim better already only with 4p

So I played 4p only

[strange python]

That's odd, what ilvl are your tier 20 pieces

[lone junco]

bleh.

it better be 1% better to drop 2p20

none of this 0.1% bullshit

[strange python]

I'd argue more 1% is just... 1%

[spiral escarp]

Here is my log:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vKJR9q24zdLQ7YWX#fight=7&type=damage-done&source=28

Not the best

But i need more practice

[echo estuary]

how can i get this disintegrating face emote? https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/393567983567372288.gif?v=1

[strange python]

huh?

[sharp viper]

are you allowed to torrent movies if you are not an outlaw main 🤔

[echo estuary]

wrong paste :>

[strange python]

monkaS

[lone junco]

these are good numbers.

[strange python]

14000 👌

[sharp viper]

some mod give perelman the yellow colour of pirates

[manic vigil]

Torrent in 2018

[spiral escarp]

@lone junco Yes, I’ve been collecting that gear for some time now 😃

[lone junco]

@spiral escarp if you want to stalk a bleed boi. go here.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/13468567/17#difficulty=5&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&metric=dps

[spiral escarp]

Need some more practice and it should work out I hope

[lone junco]

this made me lol tho

absolute shit parse. with a massive rupture.

[polar light]

18 hits

[polar light]

1 cast

[strange python]

What happened at 1 min

You can feint and just stand there for the big slam

[lone junco]

only thing missing is conc. and it would have been perfect

[manic vigil]

And yet you are still the best by far @gusty kestrel

[lone junco]

is that a bae rank? bbf

[manic vigil]

I'm hungry

Btw, getting a new keyboard app is a fucking brilliant idea

Gotta teach the pos from scratch again

[turbid harbor]

i just froze on pull on garothi

after garroting

for like 7-8seconds

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/981940277773402112

NowThis (@nowthisnews)

People used to be so ashamed of eating lobster that they'd bury the shells in their backyard rather than put them in the trash https://t.co/nOjkyKRRiQ

▶ Play video

Twitter

[manic vigil]

parse

Dw, Tom is not afraid to show off his wealth

[strange python]

how bizarre

[manic vigil]

Notter, you have to entertain me since Tom can't

[sharp viper]

can't you dm him on discord? :p

[daring gazelle]

Thoughts on bfa changes and what spec will be viable?

[vernal adder]

no fucking clue

[daring gazelle]

I'm just really worried assassination will be crap afain

Again

All the expansions modled like this one it was dead last

[vernal adder]

too early and stuff

[fair tusk]

hey , i had beautiful weakauras that show me track rupture, garotte, envenom surge of toxine, etc but i cannot find in anymore. Some one can help me with it ?

[strange python]

Uhh, there are thousands of weakauras

[fair tusk]

they don't work really well i dont see the timer on icon

[vernal adder]

[strange python]

Also, was sin really bad at legion launch or smth?

[vernal adder]

dont know played outlaw untill NH

[manic vigil]

[vernal adder]

time to resub in july I guess, maybe

[manic vigil]

Are you not entertained?!

[vernal adder]

nah wow is fucking boring atm

[sharp viper]

i am playing outlaw in reclears until aggramar

[manic vigil]

What was the game you mentioned the other day that offers so many hours of gameplay? You mentioned only having a low percentage done after quite a while of play time. Or is that one of those open world puzzles and shit scams? @gaunt moat

[honest pelican]

come up 10 essences short for my first titan essence buy. got shadowblade ring drop last night. im hoping tomorrow when i can do more, ill get better luck with the leggos, enough that i can replace the BoE leggo boots

mantle, or legs would be cool for mage tower when it comes up

[sick cradle]

is there something weird with poison bomb on garothi or am I just unlucky?

Have gotten only 6 procs of it 3 weeks in a row now

[pallid vapor]

Rng is rng

[sick cradle]

aight

[zealous dew]

ded game

[spare cloud]

6 proccs are fine

if they are in the vanish vendetta phases

[honest pelican]

are there no macros for blind etc in the pins?

[spare cloud]

What macro would you need for blind?

[placid egret]

Mouse over or at focus I'm assuming.

[spare cloud]

Does anyone use those in pve?

[placid egret]

I use it on agg

[spare cloud]

then give that poor man the macro

[placid egret]

I'm not home 😡

[spare cloud]

[placid egret]

It's also like the first result on Google.

[spare cloud]

pretty sure pvp channel has macros pinned

[boreal ingot]

It does- https://pastebin.com/YtCFpmx0 there ya go :)

[spare cloud]

Is tom muted or why does he only react

[lean hill]

He's evolved beyond the need for words

[spare cloud]

Why is Tisumi not shadowblade yet

[honest pelican]

is deadly poison sitll used in pvp?

[lean hill]

Far as I know yes, since you would use the talent where it also applies wound

[honest pelican]

ah

honor talent?

[lean hill]

@honest pelican yes, Deadly Brew

[echo estuary]

why is tom not permanently unmuted yet

[boreal ingot]

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/15700536960 here is a thread i liked that talks about poisons and PvP @honest pelican

[lean hill]

That thread is 3 years old, and made irrelevant with the ability to use both poisons at once

[dire remnant]

do any of u guys ahve that heirloom ring from teh naval shipyard in wod?

[lone junco]

ez

[fervent beacon]

@shrewd oriole

[safe matrix]

Tom you can't ping them, and you have to be quicker

[boreal ingot]

Still makes some good points

[fervent beacon]

@safe matrix Watching the final home game for Canucks tonight with Sedins?

[safe matrix]

Nah, I've never been big into hockey

It's a shame though

I liked the sedins

[spare cloud]

https://www.strawpoll.me/15441018

[echo estuary]

wheres tom on that list

[lone junco]

forgot : none.

[spare cloud]

Nobody wants tom as shadowblade

[echo estuary]

wat

[regal river]

Does assa rogue still want to cap any specific crit % for mutilate CP procs?

[spare cloud]

No

[regal river]

So basically just go mostly for the stat simmed highest?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[regal river]

Falling behind so much in envenom dmg compared to other rogues who sits on 5-10 % higher in crit (im at 23% atm)

[lone junco]

@regal river once you get 30-50% crit you can start with other builds besides shoulder. 👌

[regal river]

kk only option is to remove mastery stats then for me (currently 208%)

[strange python]

What's your ilvl? Surely 23/208 means you have some vers/mastery rings/amulet

[regal river]

972, yes using eonar ring, but i can swap out pretty many sockets for crit from mastery

Cant change to any other gear since this is the best i have

[surreal cypress]

Is better to have 38crit and 175mast or 30 crit 199 mast

[strange python]

Your sim has the answer

[spare cloud]

depends on what sims more

;^)

[surreal cypress]

Thanks

[gaunt moat]

@manic vigil yeah, the game i'm playing is called "Legend of heroes: Trails in the sky"
it's a jrpg with tactical turn-based combat

[strange python]

@regal river you're a lot like me , I'm 973 and sim highest with eonar ring

But even with two rings that dont have crit, I'm at 27%

[shrewd night]

@dire spoke where u at breh

[regal river]

3 pieces vers/mast so i miss out some crit there also, but i could definetly swap out sockets for crit and if needed ennchant rings aswell if needed to reach at least 30%

[dire spoke]

dalaran

[shrewd night]

[dire spoke]

We have 10 ranged in our roster rn

And we need 10

[shrewd night]

Join muh guild so we can push rankings together 😦

[manic vigil]

awww, you guys are cute

toxic nasty rogues my ass, you're all a bunch of softies

and I love you for it

[shrewd night]

[dire spoke]

[strange python]

• kiss *

love ya too

[dire spoke]

why join guild If you can crossrealm

[spare cloud]

@dire spoke

[manic vigil]

look at those hella precise swiss neurons doing their thing

[strange python]

cause u are fangril ?

why do u wish to be an shadowblade ?

[shrewd night]

Frontrow seat to all the drama

obviously

[spare cloud]

Yeah

Maybe because you want to help out the server you spend a good portion of your day on ?

idk

[manic vigil]

what a blasphemous question that is

[dire spoke]

I want to be Despot

[manic vigil]

I am beside me with rage

[dire spoke]

Fuck SB

[manic vigil]

see, Zempai is on my side

[shrewd night]

Quick enough clicker to ban people in 1s, you're qualified Zempai

[manic vigil]

damn why he so smart

[dire spoke]

It's Like joining top 500 when you could be in 100

[manic vigil]

that's it, since it's too much work to react with to literally anything zempai says, please imagine that I would do it instead, so I don't have to actually do it

yeah I wanna hear that as well

get the pitchforks and torches guys

[spare cloud]

Zempai you couldnt be top 100

no offense

Nah just kidding

I can't juddge

[manic vigil]

wow 20iq jokes

(mine)

[dire spoke]

I'm to friendly for top100 banter

[spare cloud]

I dont understand why youre afraid to apply to top 100

you even started playing an alt

[manic vigil]

right, I just now realize the implication of him posting about his frost dk

mind -- blown

[spare cloud]

and there are many that dont raid more than worse guilds

[manic vigil]

you could talk to tyra and replace toph

or he could be a warrior again

and everyone's happy

[spare cloud]

I dont think thats gonna happen

[manic vigil]

I just came up with this, am I woke or what?!

don't mess with my moment

[spare cloud]

But I would be really happy to play warrior

so I agree

[manic vigil]

yeah warrior is cool

[keen inlet]

me today

[manic vigil]

I respect

don let this meme die already

it's hella annoying

and racist

[keen inlet]

it's not about the meme

it'sthe soulless look in his eyes

[manic vigil]

oh

true

[spare cloud]

do u kno da wae?

[manic vigil]

kinda like me and then

[keen inlet]

every time my phone rings

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

But Zempais logs arent public

sadly

[keen inlet]

the F do you want

[dire spoke]

me stealin yo grill

[spare cloud]

Zempai why arent your logs public

your rekill logs

[dire spoke]

You drunk?

[manic vigil]

again?

[spare cloud]

Wait they are?

[manic vigil]

do we need to have the talk toph?

[spare cloud]

._.

[dire spoke]

We die garothi to eonar

[strange python]

Zempai pls remember me when you go pro

☺️

[spare cloud]

I just assumed they werent

because there are just 2 kills on most bosses

[dire spoke]

Yeah

That's what I have

[keen inlet]

me stealin' Zempai's gril that was stolen from you

[dire spoke]

2 kills

[spare cloud]

thats fine, just weird that your guild is trying to bruteforce aggrammar like that

or did you just dodge and they recleared?

[manic vigil]

all the gear

[dire spoke]

No, we had 10 wipes on hasabel, guess why we rather progress aggr

Guess why I lfg

[surreal cypress]

That sim program is pretty cool

[dire spoke]

G U E S S

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

I know why you lfg

did they respond yet

btw

[dire spoke]

I talk with the GM tomorrow

[keen inlet]

never4get noobe

[spare cloud]

Nice

gl

[dire spoke]

ty tho

[manic vigil]

you gonna be fine!

[spare cloud]

we dropped to world rank 476 btw ._.

[dire spoke]

@strange python I never forgot about you nature boi

[strange python]

😘

[dire spoke]

wow, not even my rank goal toph

[manic vigil]

you can drop ranks? see, I don't even know how they are created

[spare cloud]

barely top 500 world

but we had nice progress

[spare cloud]

wtf don

[manic vigil]

NO don

that's too far

[scarlet mantle]

fuck that

[spare cloud]

Do you want me to post pictures?

[keen inlet]

end my suffering

[strange python]

No

[scarlet mantle]

that's so wrong

[spare cloud]

Because you posting pictures is telling me that you want me to post pictures

[soft cargo]

hello quick question about vari mythic, are you fine soaking everything with 1 shadowstep only?

[dire spoke]

Don take your memeing to #off-topic pls

[keen inlet]

no

[strange python]

Yes

No

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

Selfportrait of me

when I was 12 years old

[dire spoke]

@soft cargo yes

[strange python]

Y tho

[spare cloud]

y tho

[manic vigil]

[supple hearth]

Zempai for mod

[keen inlet]

zempai for despot

[manic vigil]

let's take a moment to honor our fallen brother tom

[spare cloud]

I dont understand why nobody wants me to be mod

[supple hearth]

Zempai for my heart

[manic vigil]

okay we good

what is it about zempai that makes him so damn likable?! (is that a word?)

[spare cloud]

Yes it is

[manic vigil]

everyone and their neighbours love zempai!

[supple hearth]

He keeps don in check

[spare cloud]

And its his looks

He's sexy

and sweet

[manic vigil]

yeah I bet

[spare cloud]

and a nice person

helpful

carried my dk normal

many times

[keen inlet]

what is there to keep in check

just destroy me

end it

DO IT

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

I'm completely objective in my judgement though

[keen inlet]

you can't

you don't have the guts

[spare cloud]

Don if I can end you can I take over your position?

[keen inlet]

sure idgaf

I'll be dead lol

[manic vigil]

wow that's dark don

[strange python]

Don your paint skills are a joke

[manic vigil]

you wanna talk?

[strange python]

Just like your outlaw rogue

[keen inlet]

@strange python ty

x2

[manic vigil]

wow

[strange python]

Pls dont ban me

I love you

[keen inlet]

x3

[manic vigil]

I like it!

[supple hearth]

This is a bully free zone

[spare cloud]

I just googled Ion Hazzikostas

and found this

[supple hearth]

Plz donut bully don

[manic vigil]

[soft cargo]

wth

[keen inlet]

so

if outlaw is superior in bfa

[spare cloud]

I can't end you don I surrender

[keen inlet]

are y'all gonna migrate there

[soft cargo]

outlaw in 2k18

[spare cloud]

I dont have the ability

I'd rather migrate to General

than to Outlaw

[manic vigil]

@soft cargo are you... are you touching the Kripp?

[soft cargo]

yes i am

kripp is god

[manic vigil]

also yes don

[vestal wren]

quin showed us how to play oulaw, so he will lead us to victory

[keen inlet]

de wae

[soft cargo]

quin OMEGALUL

[spare cloud]

I like quinn

[manic vigil]

I hate outlaw rn but if they rock, I'm gonna bring my 🎸

[soft cargo]

y on ret

[spare cloud]

he can play every class after basically no practice

he's a god

always top dps

never dies

[soft cargo]

i member he talked some stupid shit about rogue

that was super wrong

[scarlet mantle]

quin is a fotm god

[drifting cloud]

its like he says

hes a kinetic learned

[soft cargo]

is DH fotm?

[drifting cloud]

he has to die from a mechanic so he knows what it does

[manic vigil]

man you need this a lot lately toph

[spare cloud]

Guys come listen along

[manic vigil]

I'll be the proudest pirate you have ever seen don if outlaw rules

just like in that dark legacy comic

[soft cargo]

BEING A PIRATE IS ALRIGHT WITH ME

[spare cloud]

I'm still trying to find boots that match with the t21 set

[soft cargo]

are they keeping roll the bones?

[spare cloud]

so I can transmog it

I'm too bad to get pvp elite set

so thats out of the question

I take it back I dont want Tisumi to be mod

[manic vigil]

you can't take it back

[spare cloud]

he's better than me at pvp

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

can't have someone like that as mod

[strange python]

Mythic fat boss from the dragon raid

[spare cloud]

Will you answer my pvp questions

in the pvp channel?

[manic vigil]

perelman just might

[spare cloud]

I tried to trick perelman yesterday

he didnt get tricked

[manic vigil]

tisumi is too busy to talk to plebs once she is our godqueen

[spare cloud]

She?`

Pretty sure Tisumi is male

[manic vigil]

for fantasy's sake

[spare cloud]

could be wrong though

giggle also sounds like a 40 year old black dude

[manic vigil]

rude

[spare cloud]

what

[manic vigil]

that

[keen inlet]

[manic vigil]

you gotta become stjern's biatch

[keen inlet]

there's a form actually

[spare cloud]

@supple hearth do you think what I said a few lines ago is rude?

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

Is there actually

[keen inlet]

announcements

june of last year

Stjern's announcement

idk if we're actively looking

[manic vigil]

I don't think it was rude rude actually. but a socially sensitive person might not say it

toph

[spare cloud]

we need someone that is active

[manic vigil]

[keen inlet]

but more sblades might mean I could get promoted

[spare cloud]

and helpful

[keen inlet]

into God-King

[spare cloud]

to apply

[keen inlet]

or Loremaster

[manic vigil]

I'm active! and at least half a percent of what I'm saying is no BS

[keen inlet]

Loremaster Don Jose, I dig it

[spare cloud]

Don of Lore, Jose

[manic vigil]

idk

[spare cloud]

But you are too bad to give good advice

[honest pelican]

yaay, will of valeera first leggo from essences

[spare cloud]

I want Noobe to apply

[honest pelican]

now to sim

be breaking 2pc t21

[spare cloud]

not worth

[honest pelican]

it sim better so def is

[spare cloud]

probably

[honest pelican]

its lfr legs

[spare cloud]

Oh

[honest pelican]

BoE leggo boots + will

over shadowblade ring

fuck i just enchanted that ring and gemmed it too

will is nice, il lbe doing mage tower in a day or two when i ts up

[manic vigil]

also, weren't you guys in voice chat the other day toph? zempai and tisumi

[spare cloud]

Yes we were

[manic vigil]

so you should know that tisumi is of course not a girl (grills on them webs LuL)

[spare cloud]

thats why I said it

[manic vigil]

gotcha

[spare cloud]

it all makes sense now, doesnt it?

[manic vigil]

it always did

[echo estuary]

wait, tisumi is NOT a girl?

[honest pelican]

1hr 41m til i can even wear 2nd leggo anyway

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2xQnFCKGYLncPwTp48sbFy

i sitll need to get tier helm, gloves chest, hopefully next week

[manic vigil]

does it matter?

he might be just a clever piece of software for all I know

[spare cloud]

@manic vigil https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q5_on2VAOikM_G6mjfBdeJky4LFaz0Fz8a_yrZw0x3A/viewform?edit_requested=true

go

[manic vigil]

another SB to be bullied by the elitists? I think I'm good

[spare cloud]

If you were sb you could bully the elitists

[manic vigil]

[bronze jasper]

Hey, my dps is falling tremendously after my opener. My iLvl is 956, I have Bracers + Mantle.
My rotation is, Garrote Muti Rupture Vendetta Toxic Blade Kingsbane Vanish then muti envenom muti evenom, then re apply bleeds
Just want to know why its falling down to 1.5 when im simming 1.76. Any Help?

[manic vigil]

that's true

[spare cloud]

why do you muti after vanish?

you should have 5 cp from tb and kb

[bronze jasper]

well im vanishing before that

then i envenom

then muti

so i get 4 pts and envenom

[spare cloud]

Logs would be nice

[bronze jasper]

ok 1 sec

[spare cloud]

but being a bit under sim dps is fine

preferably varimathras log

[sonic pawn]

It should be TB -> KB -> Vanish -> Envenom -> Muti -> Envenom etc.

[dire spoke]

@supple hearth

[sonic pawn]

The way you described it, it seems weird.

[spare cloud]

Thats the way it should be

I think he meant that just wrote it wrong

[sonic pawn]

oh

[spare cloud]

which is why I asked for logs

[sonic pawn]

yeye fo sho

[bronze jasper]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/32046726/17#difficulty=4&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&metric=dps&boss=2076

thats my last thing available with my shoulders

i dont update logs unless someones with me, i should start.

[sonic pawn]

i assume youre danstax

[bronze jasper]

yes

[spare cloud]

it says so in the title...

why do you have versatility on your ring

does it sim higher for you?

which I doubt

Your stats are alright

[bronze jasper]

i think I followed a guide for that tbh

[lucid harbor]

터프 -, can you type me a rotation?

[spare cloud]

always sim yourself

[bronze jasper]

Im going to sim rn

[lucid harbor]

for a good dps 😃

[spare cloud]

check the guide for that @lucid harbor

[lucid harbor]

can you link one?

havent found any good yet

[spare cloud]

its in the pins

[soft cargo]

does cloak remove necrotic embrace?

[spare cloud]

also its in the headline of this channel

[bronze jasper]

its saying 1.76 DPS

[spare cloud]

literally on top of the window

No

[bronze jasper]

and on average im doing 1.4-1.5

[spare cloud]

I mean sim your stat weights

are you experienced with raidbots?

[bronze jasper]

Not much, but I can watch a tutorial quickly

[spare cloud]

just use raidbots.com

do you have a simc addon?

that lets you copy and paste a string

[lucid harbor]

ohh ty 터프 -

[soft cargo]

can u cloak necrotic mythic vari?

[bronze jasper]

I do

in wow

[spare cloud]

Alright

No you can't @soft cargo

[bronze jasper]

Where do i get that string from?

[spare cloud]

If you have the addon

then you just time /simc

then you go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

and just look for what you need

if you want stat weights you go on statweights

set the simulation options to the following: https://gyazo.com/ccbd93d15a44a24da8363efed78b626f

[bronze jasper]

ok got it

thanks so much

[spare cloud]

Pantheon trinkets are optional

[bronze jasper]

let me see what it says

[spare cloud]

l'm gonna look at the log in the meantime

https://gyazo.com/022075159c50a52977ec5d98e14006b1

You should keep envenom up for the whole duration of kingsbane

the buff you get from it, that is

https://gyazo.com/53f834199a645caccec0da36ef4fc6c1

try to always get at least 2 envenoms in a toxic blade

[dire spoke]

@bronze jasper https://snag.gy/uyvLOZ.jpg

[spare cloud]

avoid refreshing rupture during tb

[bronze jasper]

Ok i just got the raidbots stat weights

it gave me a new pawn string

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pqTAHb7VxMDbY884dpHYtQ

[dire spoke]

you need to do that with every item change

[spare cloud]

See mastery is on top

so you should enchant mastery

also youre missing 1 ring enchant

https://gyazo.com/970310e8d5ef181a9c236b1a13d93629

why did you pot 90 seconds into the fight

[dire spoke]

and when you're done enchanting, get a new pawn string again

[bronze jasper]

im not sure

learning all this stuff at the moment, new to PvE

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/adcc8110f42bc6dc3f6bd467894dba28

[dire spoke]

not sure about what?

[spare cloud]

again the envenom uptime

[dire spoke]

dude you can see that in my screenshot

[bronze jasper]

so my mistake is im not envenoming enough? I try to apply rupture before it falls

[spare cloud]

You should time it in a way

[dire spoke]

look at your uptime here https://snag.gy/uyvLOZ.jpg

[spare cloud]

where you dont have to refresh rupture during kingsbane

Dont vanish outside of vendetta

[bronze jasper]

Save my vendetta to align with 2nd vanish

right?

[spare cloud]

No

save your vanish to align with vendetta

never save vendetta

unless you know what youre doing

[north basin]

201% mastery decent amount? with no food

[spare cloud]

also if the fight is short

No

depends on your gear

and ilvl

[north basin]

972

[bronze jasper]

ok im enchanting both my rings ATM

[spare cloud]

yeah thats not much

@bronze jasper if bossfight is short vanish in the lest 30%

since you are using bracers

did he just leave discord

[north basin]

nah

its just discord bugs

[shrewd night]

I can finally go back to my beloved boots/bracer 🙏

[spare cloud]

Anways

there is no set amount for any stat except haste, of which you want 0

it depends on the build you play, the other items you have

[north basin]

ye but my stat weigh 50 for mastery. and i have 200% will it stop sometimes to raise so high ))

[spare cloud]

I would apply but I have no chance anyways so I dont care

You should apply

most likely it will eventually get outweighted by crit, if you have very low crit chance

but then its still second

so you still would want items with crit and mastery

which doesnt change if you play any poison build really

[north basin]

ok then

[lone junco]

@dire spoke I did that view of my last shoulder parse. and found this goody

[manic vigil]

we have too many shadowblades already, don't we?

need to get rid of someone first

[lone junco]

I guess thats not sot

nvm

we good

[dire spoke]

🤔 that's a weird graph

[spare cloud]

last moment no envenom uptime 😡

[lone junco]

I dont care about tail env as much as tail sot

but its really zoomed in

[dire spoke]

ohh

[manic vigil]

man that picture is doing some work

[turbid escarp]

Is 25% crit too low?

[lone junco]

that lone Env at 1;30

ugh

@turbid escarp its pretty low, but shoulders will keep you going

if you want to play a non shoulder build, try 33-40

[dire spoke]

more like 40-50

[spare cloud]

not with poison

if you play poison non mantle builds youre gucci with like 36

or 33

[dire spoke]

I can't make it sim higher 🤷🏻

I have 950 blitz

well okay, it's only 30k below current

[manic vigil]

mantle

only tom the parse whore still runs mantle

he can't even flame me for saying that

[spare cloud]

hey

I run mantle too

[manic vigil]

I'm watching a prison documentary right now and somehow it reminds me of tom

(I run mantle a lot as well, just being silly me)

[spare cloud]

I want to play other builds though

but I dont have geaaar

[manic vigil]

ye

I need a good crit neck and another ring I guess

but that 980 doggo neck is gonna be hard to replace

[spare cloud]

970 crit mastery neck would probably outsim 980 doggo

[manic vigil]

ye

for sure

[spare cloud]

but hard to get

[manic vigil]

crit is like 10 ahead of anything else

[spare cloud]

since there is none in raid

[manic vigil]

oh bs it's only 7

still a lot

[spare cloud]

liar.

[shrewd night]

https://gyazo.com/5004394b70ab21fb0d23b7c4539b082c

[manic vigil]

where does even a high crit low mastery neck drop?

[shrewd night]

And we wipe ofc

[manic vigil]

awwww, I so wanna hug him

what's he sad about anyway

lucky bastard

[jagged oracle]

Hey guys, just a quick question, to start off is it better to play poison or blood build?

[spare cloud]

what sims higher

[manic vigil]

poison for max swag

[spare cloud]

but poison is easier to gear for

[jagged oracle]

poison is stacking mastery and second crit yea?

[manic vigil]

ye

[jagged oracle]

kk ty ❤

[dire spoke]

for me it's crit = vers rn

feels weird

[manic vigil]

not sure that's still true

but that's roughly what's going on

crit = vers

[dire spoke]

🤷🏻

[manic vigil]

interesting

[jagged oracle]

huh

[drifting cloud]

52 crit wtf

as poison?

[lean hill]

No shoulders

[manic vigil]

yeah that was after I ditched my high crit necklace for the master/versa one 980

[lone junco]

@manic vigil lower k. barbed neck.

[manic vigil]

and yeah boots/bracers

of course, my affli has that, thanks noobe

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/r7EGf9.jpg

[manic vigil]

yeah that seems about right

[jagged oracle]

is boots/bracers better rn ?

[manic vigil]

depends

I like it better

^^

[jagged oracle]

so personal preference ?

[manic vigil]

but it depends on the fight, your kill times etc etc

[jagged oracle]

ah okay

[dire spoke]

@jagged oracle you need to simulate your top gear if you're interested in having max output

if you don't care, don't care

[manic vigil]

it's useless on imonar for instance

I prefer mantle on kin and PK obviously

[jagged oracle]

well i just dug out my rogue and im on 885

so no need for sims yet, just some basic questions

xD

[manic vigil]

just use what you got then

try to avoid haste and you're gucci

[jagged oracle]

yea as i said, just some basic stuff x)

yep ty 😃

[dire spoke]

basic answer: sim yourself

[manic vigil]

and don't freak out about the legendaries, a lot of them are super close together actually.

[jagged oracle]

yea, currently waiting for my first one to show up^^

[dire spoke]

you can find builds and comb on herodamage.com, check the pins, read the guide

come back in 2 weeks with questions

[jagged oracle]

i will, no worries x)

[grim canopy]

So bfa prepatch in 3 months?

[jagged oracle]

thanks tho

[grim canopy]

double poison bomb chanze

i think assassin will be most overpowered spec and then nerfed

[manic vigil]

zempai sending people off to do their homework

[grim canopy]

and then u gotta farm 3 more peices of azurite gear cause its spec loocked ;9

[manic vigil]

revyn is welcome to chat with us at any time btw

[hoary copper]

Arg Using boots/bracers...feels so weird after using shoulders

[grim canopy]

why no shoulders?

[manic vigil]

you are finally free bruen

don't fight it

embrace it

[hoary copper]

Just seeing how boot/bracers feel, which actually it feels better

LOL

[manic vigil]

[hoary copper]

So used to vanish envenom tho

[dire spoke]

can you vanish on pandemic CD now? I don't even know hahah

[grim canopy]

i wish dps wasn't tied to vanish, just use as escape

[manic vigil]

idk, slagg said it perfectly when he described it to me back in the day. boots/bracers is the marathon build

that's how it feels. constant, reliable

awesome

[grim canopy]

i read them wanting to avoid making defensive/utility tied to dps but guess not for this class

[jagged oracle]

@manic vigil thanks, but no idea what to say because i didnt play rogue for a good 4 years now... xD

[hoary copper]

yea I miss the burst a little, but I like the consistancy. I sim 1.718 with shoulder/boots, 1.7 with shoulder/bracers 1.695 with bracer/boots

[manic vigil]

we usually don't talk about rogue anyway

[dire spoke]

you could talk about eating ass or your tinder dates

[hoary copper]

Isnt that the same Zempai?

[jagged oracle]

well eating ass is fine, as long as you do it counter-clockwise

[manic vigil]

[grim canopy]

Shoulders is at 3 seconds for the talent?

[jagged oracle]

otherwise its disgusting

[dire spoke]

[hoary copper]

Bleed is starting to creep up, .7% behind poison

[manic vigil]

bleedy boi inc

[dire spoke]

your rogue soon on it's period

[jagged oracle]

gearing up is such a pain im literally going to suck some dick for gear soon

[manic vigil]

I have to admit, noobe's pictures of those (fake) 4cp muti streaks are quite arousing

[hoary copper]

If i can get rid of this ugly mastery/haste ring it will be closer

[manic vigil]

and yeah gearing is annoying. getting some stuff for a decent ilvl is easy but the proper stuff

and relics and whatnot

such a pita

[lean hill]

Tier without master loot. Have fun

[manic vigil]

[hoary copper]

need a good crit mastery ring hmm

[manic vigil]

bring me one as well

960+, tyvm

[lean hill]

Me too. All mine are vers/mastery

[hoary copper]

crit verse I spose would work too

[dire spoke]

you don't need masterloot if you don't have sets tbh, but it would still be a slight plus

[manic vigil]

idk, it's been a while since I have witnessed loot drama tbh

but that comes with the more laid back environment I guess

[lean hill]

I only like master loot for tier thanks to the tokens making life easier

[hoary copper]

When you join a normal and they wipe on garothi

[manic vigil]

wow

[lean hill]

Well. I like it always so shitters don't get crazy forged gear they suck at using

[hoary copper]

Opener with bracer/boots is the same just rupture instead of envenom right?

[manic vigil]

makes sense yeah

[hoary copper]

been a while

[dire spoke]

@hoary copper subterfuge?

[manic vigil]

actually it depends

[hoary copper]

Nightstalker but I spose I could switch

[manic vigil]

it should be roughly the same anyway

but if you run NS the apl actually uses vanish envenom anyway

in the opener that is

[hoary copper]

hmm

I'll just wing it

its normal, who cares

[manic vigil]

it's a timing thing I guess

[hoary copper]

lol