You can get those
#assassination
lone junco
irrelevant now
lone junco
but I should get them earlier next time
fiery nest
i never look at it
lone junco
I track it for bleed.
lone junco
I ripped it out for the poison build
fiery nest
it's just there, yeah probably good to know for bleed
shrewd oriole
Got it
fiery nest
yep, makes it symmetrical as well
shrewd oriole
Could substitute it for env
lone junco
clip clip clip
fiery nest
my eyes
gilded lark
shrewd oriole
👍
strange python
Wtf
gaunt moat
Oh welcome back hipz
hollow escarp
ToS shoulders in bags? :DansGame:
shrewd oriole
What class
Ew
Does she at least have all tank specs at max level?
How is she gonna do m+ on a guardian
➖
turbid harbor
i've never seen a female tank before
lone junco
@turbid harbor we have a dk grill.
shrewd oriole
lone junco
its pretty brain dead. stand here and heal yourslef
gaunt moat
@gusty kestrel is it wuffly?
shrewd oriole
It’s pretty broken
That’s a p bad class combo tbh
Pala tank is largely irrelevant
Same for dh
Odd choices
lone junco
we use Protpal for 3rd on Aggramar. his aoe cone is neat for a slam cooldown.
lone junco
for deaths at the end?
shrewd oriole
Yep
The dps check isn’t tight if everyone is alive at this point
Easy farm kills
@gusty kestrel nah 2 is fine for aggra, 3 just makes it so you can’t get unlucky and wipe
They play it super safe on farm
To clear the fastest possible
Think we are down to like 2 hour full clear
merry sparrow
what legos you using with that outlaw setup
shrewd oriole
Not as close as I thought
Still not bad
Need to get that triple mass to sim 2.4
strange python
I can't get decent relics to save my life
gilded lark
have you tried farming for them
strange python
🙄
gilded lark
i mean if you're gonna complain
shrewd oriole
I have a 965 malch mos B.B.
Why B.B. game why
Then I have a 960 malch shadowbind Mass
gilded lark
big mutilates
shrewd oriole
That’s p much bis
But the I have a fucking 980 malch DANK sorrows B.B.
Can’t replace that one
Need a big malch mos mass iron to replace it
But try rolling for an iron relic when your relic is 980
strange python
my weapon is 1002 but the traits are mostly meh
lots of envenom dmg and rupture crit
wise frigate
I got lucky and won the PK trinket on my first ever PK kill. Rolled with MAss and Chaotic Dankness
Was an 8 ilvl upgrade lol
rain pewter
my warlock is now same ilvl as rogue LETSGO
shrewd oriole
940?
shrewd oriole
rain pewter
hey stop bully had first mythic clear on it today
shrewd oriole
Is it a titan slayer alt?
rain pewter
wat
shrewd oriole
So is America
fervent beacon
Titan slayer is a title from killing mythic argus
shrewd oriole
Never forget to
rain pewter
im 10/11 on rogue but eh
fervent beacon
fervent beacon
Is it survival?
fervent beacon
The fuck wrong with you
strange python
At least you admit it
shrewd oriole
I got sephuz and prydaz as my first two
fervent beacon
I got the Bracers first for survival hunter but it's permanently benched
shrewd oriole
Sephuz is bis for surv
Sephuz is one of my favorite leggos tbh
Cuz it encourages smart / creative gameplay
fervent beacon
I actually think I have sephuz too.
lethal heart
i think i had like
985/985/970 in my weapon
relicwise
but it was like most depleto relics ever
most garbage traits that just simmed good for me beacuse of ilvl xd
slim estuary
What’s the best 4 tier pieces this tier?
spare cloud
the ones that sim the highest for you
shrewd oriole
Depends on ilvl and off pieces
spare cloud
😉
prime void
today has been extra freaking special
spare cloud
Tom hates everyone that isnt british
shrewd oriole
No
prime void
tom loves me
shrewd oriole
I love Germans
prime void
im the exception
shrewd oriole
And Americans
spare cloud
Yeah right
shrewd oriole
And uhh
spare cloud
I havent seen any love from you lately
shrewd oriole
I hate Sweden
lethal heart
monkaS
pallid mirage
anyone suggest using leeching poison in BGs? Having trouble staying alive
calm grail
Everyone hates Americans :(
shrewd oriole
Sweden is actually disgusting
spare cloud
thats a question for pvp
lethal heart
ee it's not bad for bgs tbh @pallid mirage
pallid mirage
yeah no one answered lol
spare cloud
ping giggle
shrewd oriole
Cuz no one does pvp
pallid mirage
thanks guys
shrewd oriole
Lol
prime void
pvp is dead
spare cloud
she likes to be pinged
gilded lark
thats because nobody pvps
lethal heart
HOLY SHIT SO MUCH SPAM
gilded lark
pvp is a minigame for casuals
lethal heart
i mean
calm grail
I want that purple leather though.
spare cloud
tom
lethal heart
you guys would rather kill fucking digital monsters
instead of REAL PEOPLE
like pvp
monkaS
spare cloud
I havent gotten any love from you lately
lethal heart
pvp alpha content
shrewd oriole
Scripted events is for noobs
shrewd oriole
❤
spare cloud
Thanks.
shrewd oriole
AfD ❤
calm grail
If you want to kill real people, just go to the sewers. Then you can farm angry whispers.
shrewd oriole
Instead of bb
spare cloud
I did that once
was hilarious
I wanted to farm the hidden appearance but kill low geared dudes was more fun
shrewd oriole
So many angry whispers
spare cloud
the dps
I dotted them
let them run out
dying from dots
like cutting of the head of a running chicken
calm grail
I'm almost 30 years old, but every time I kill somebody they ask me when school break ends 😟
Feelsbadman
spare cloud
old af boy
calm grail
I think when you can kill them in one cheap shot they get salty.
spare cloud
Yeah but thats boring
I like them to die slowly bleeding out
they have hope that they survive
but then
shrewd oriole
Idd
spare cloud
disrespectful
calm grail
I'm going to miss how enjoyable the shoulders made World PVP for me this expansion.
spare cloud
dead class
manic vigil
world pvp 
spare cloud
blocks incoming calls 
spare cloud
Yes
vapid moth
Alright done with borderlands 2 storyline. Now. I wait for 3
strange python
Youll be waiting awhile
spare cloud
Imagine you get shit on by a shark
strange python
Is it :O
spare cloud
There is the pre-sequel 
vapid moth
I have the pre quel. I'll play it in the meantime
I liked the ending to this one. Clear indication as to where the next game might take us
shrewd oriole
Dead game
chrome tuskBOT
:game_die: rip rtb :game_die:
lethal heart
world pvp only real pvp
echo estuary
yeah if you're handicapped
fervent beacon
Destiny 2 and Poe is taking my gaming time atm
onyx birch
Does dps rotation change with The Empty Crown leggo?
strange python
Never used it but can't imagine it does.
I guess you don't really have pool for kb, but you dont pool much for kb anyway
@fervent beacon PoE even though Bestiary is a hot mess rn?
fervent beacon
I just started for first time. Seems solid way to get gear while leveling and the captured beast still will drop loot.
And nothing really change with crown, except you could run DS over vigor.
vapid moth
What's poe
fervent beacon
Path of exile
strange python
I try to play it every league, get burnt out by maps though
Unless the league is fun, unfortunately bestiary is the worst one they've made in a long time
Leveling is always fun though. All the acts make for a great experience
shrewd oriole
Idd
I love lobster
You get it so cheap here too
That whole thing was like 36 euros
strange python
On the bright side they said they learned a lot from the mistakes of bestiary and the next league will be 👌
civic palm
A lobster was 36EU?
lone junco
in @keen inlet neck of the woods you can get them for like 6$ lol
civic palm
I live near the coast so seafood being pricey is dumb.
prisma cypress
i only played bestiary at the very start but it seemed like the league mechanic was one long terrible vorici mission
civic palm
Worst league in a very long time.
lone junco
the trappery was distracting imo
civic palm
Clunky and poorly designed. Little to no testing.
shrewd oriole
In Portugal
lone junco
I kept killing stuff
shrewd oriole
Lobster can cost you like 70-80 euros lol
Bestiary was so trash man
It’s hard to make a league worse than garbinger
civic palm
The fuck are you paying that much for lobster for ahhhhhh
Yeah well they fucking did it.
prisma cypress
bestiality league... bring back PERANDUS (not really)
civic palm
or just pricey because people are dumb enough to buy it at a restaurant for that price?
civic palm
In the area maybe, but they're fucking braindead and passive catch.
Either way they are tasty.
shrewd oriole
They are considered a super luxury food here
prisma cypress
500 years ago lobsters were considered garbage food that was only eaten by slaves and prisoners
shrewd oriole
Main
prisma cypress
true story
civic palm
North Carolina.
and lobsters are still easy to catch, cook, and serve.
No reason for them to be expensive.
gilded lark
shrewd oriole
Maybe it’s a matter of supply
civic palm
other than people being willing to pay that much of a price.
They are tasty, though I am not sure how much there is versus the demand.
gilded lark
hard shelled are like $12/pound
lone junco
shipping alive is prob the pinch point. you cant freeze them
civic palm
IIRC you can flash freeze depending on weight.
gilded lark
supposedly anyway
civic palm
Also it seems like the pricing PER POUND depends on the overall weight.
Can get a lobster for $9 a pound, or $15, same market.
Last lobster I had was like... $20USD, lobster, 2 sides, beer. 👌
deep gulch
is 28% crit too low? at 207% mastery and mastery still simming higher
shrewd night
Follow the sims, although more crit will make your rotation more fluid
deep gulch
I do like fluid rotations
shrewd night
strange python
yes bring pack perandus, that was my favorite league
shrewd oriole
This is the kind of content I subscribe for
strange python
lobsters?
rose sapphire
Can I trust this sims, the only thing changing is the neck. The higher sim is with crit/mast neck and the lower sim with mast/vers neck, you see the stats unbuffed for each setup.
supple hearth
looks about right to me
shrewd oriole
Indeed
safe matrix
didnt you ask this the other day
shrewd oriole
What an odd question
Hello is a crit mastery higher ilvl neck better than mastery versa
Hmm
safe matrix
"Can I trust the sim"
supple hearth
looks like he asked 9 hours ago, 13 hours ago,
safe matrix
was it only hours?
shrewd oriole
Goes to show that pvp players truly have a higher iq than us pvers am I right giggle
supple hearth
plz donut bully
supple hearth
tbf wrathful glad was years ago - he could have been very powerful and then lost it all
between then and now
safe matrix
I just saw giggle in the class hall
supple hearth
im sad u didnt add me as friend
safe matrix
yep
shrewd oriole
Check her achievement score
Thankfully I can’t run into you non titan slayer plebs
supple hearth
shrewd oriole
Since my class hall is for Eu kids only
supple hearth
supple hearth
it is
shrewd oriole
Or pay someone to realistically speaking
Thing is
This expansion has many great titles
Chosen is great
Titan slayer is great
Dreamer is great
supple hearth
the only hard one is the all-star. I could always get 3/4 and then get cucked on the last one somehow
or the game would end too quick
safe matrix
giggle if I see you again I'll add you
shrewd oriole
You’re the whitest of knights
supple hearth
giggleblush#1585
shrewd oriole
Idk the darkener isn’t my jam
turbid harbor
i only wear titanslayer because it makes casuals' panties wet
shrewd oriole
Next year tho
turbid harbor
even though everybody has it now
shrewd oriole
Next year I have the next title
That’s the whole point of it
Like yeah everyone eventually can get the mythic set
But I wear it 2 years before the plebs do
I’m an ingame alpha (tester)
supple hearth
i remember when kingslayer was cool.
now its the "this is my alt" title
turbid harbor
that's of the horde for me
shrewd oriole
Gotta wear the m title on all your alts
turbid harbor
or the patient
supple hearth
masked chuckler
primal tangle
"the memist"
shrewd oriole
sharp viper
do you ever sleep tom
shrewd oriole
It’s not even midnight
sharp viper
wait where are you at? it is 4:30 in the am for me
plain thistle
you are here tom? visit me 😂
shrewd oriole
Wait are you Brazilian ahah?
plain thistle
yup
plain thistle
Santa catarina, south 😄
shrewd oriole
Ah we are hella far away
plain thistle
😦
shrewd oriole
I’m in morro de São Paulo
We bought a property here
@supple hearth
Your guild is recruiting
Transferring my account been
Brb*
Posted in tc 
pseudo ore
daddy by KoЯn
sharp viper
can you even transfer accounts from one region to another?
shrewd oriole
I think so
Man reading recruitment channel is so amusing
“US 175” uh
World 500
dire spoke
Can I join clear / reclear run anywhere EU ? we're not progressing for the fourth time now because ppl don't sign up
plain thistle
rich boy 🤔
shrewd oriole
Dude some parts of Brazil are heaven on earth
plain thistle
brb xD
dire spoke
shrewd oriole
You’re probably better asking some shitty guild
Those usually have problems filling their roster
Or
Change guild
Like we have all been saying for weeks
dire spoke
I am trying to get on Blackmoore currently @shrewd oriole - you got any recom. on Kazzak? like non-shithole
how are Endless and Fang?
shrewd oriole
Lemme go on wowp
dire spoke
well I can read on my own lol
shrewd oriole
Aurora nox is decent
Yeah but I know which ones are good internally
Idk how high are you trying to go
Going from like world 1800 to a world 300 guild is a big jump
primal tangle
Is it though? Kidding, kidding
dire spoke
there is no difference between 200 and 500 tbh
dire spoke
hahah
shrewd oriole
You’re 1800
So steer the horse
There’s an overall massive difference
In leadership quality
Individual player performance
Raid leading quality
Overall preparation
Alt runs
Splits
Boosting
500 to 200 are worlds apart
dire spoke
well
sharp viper
that is slavery since you not very likely to get paid for it
dire spoke
I got a mate in top200 and I know I perform just as good in progress 🤷🏻 so why not apply
sharp viper
and working full time in a game
dire spoke
that's what trials for
shrewd oriole
I’m not Trynna deter you, do apply
Just that the odds of you getting accepted with a leap that big without connections or nutty logs is small
dire spoke
if a recruiter judges on where somebody comes from it's a shitty guild anyway 
yeah Tom
that's why I got you
shrewd night
Lets be honest. If I can get into a top200 guild, Zempai can too 
sharp viper
you dont have nutty logs?
shrewd night
Define nutty
sharp viper
lotta orange
shrewd night
I got few oranges, high purples
Was enough for me
But then again
Zempai is a clicker
So his effort counts fro alot more
sharp viper
and assa logs are very competitive, not rng based at all, log numbers indicate the true skill of a player, no poison bomb rng here
shrewd night
Definitely
shrewd oriole
Yep
dire spoke
but I'm not a shitty guild hopper
sharp viper
guild hopping sucks
dire spoke
hahah
shrewd oriole
Who ?
shrewd oriole
There’s no lock officer
Officers rn are way different than when I was there tbh
There’s like 3 or 4 old players
Anyways I’m super happy with my current guild and I’m p sure we are gonna easily get top 100 next tier
fleet whale
wtf can people bug Kin'Garoth cause a sin rogue did 4.4 mil dps on that boss?!
yeah, that's why I thought something was fishy
supple hearth
also check date of kill
fleet whale
though it could just be a bugged log
plain thistle
ohhh thats why I lost 5 points on kin mythic
fleet whale
also, damage done is way too low, so yeah, just a bugged log
plain thistle
fuck bug abusers
crimson knoll
Pretty sure that's intentional
onyx falcon
grim canopy
So im doing this neltharion layer M+ , for avalanche i move way out but im still getting 1 shot
wtf?
sand whale
are you lagging
sand whale
maybe you are running into someone else's falling rock shrugs
grim canopy
and w/ teeming
safe matrix
Neltharions layer
dire spoke
Neltharions slayer
frozen pecan
Neltharions prayer
steep obsidian
Neltharions beware
frozen pecan
u ruined it
gilded lark
Neltharion's gayer
grim canopy
what is our aoe opening rotation?
steep obsidian
😦
grim canopy
and put a few ruptures up?
dire spoke
1rup if they die quick, 2-3 if they're tanky
steep obsidian
on trash in dungeons i don't rupture during the crit window with shoulders the crit poisons give ya plenty energy with 4p but yeah you want to roll a few ruptures or you will get energy starved outside of that
steep obsidian
hah well play sub if you want to ahve a chance at beating him
otherwise dont worry about it
frozen pecan
that's just how it is
grim canopy
and he's quit ea bit lower item lvl
steep obsidian
just randomly blind mobs to remove his dots
frozen pecan
u wont beat a lock so don't worry
steep obsidian
that will lower his deps a bit
grim canopy
lmao
so in bfa azurite is spec locked, i have to do 2 specs for rogue 1 fo raid 1 for m+ again?
why not just give sin aoe
grim canopy
this whole "this spec is for aoe" is gonna make me just stick with a WW or Ret
all in 1
steep obsidian
poison bomb has higher proc rate and tick faster
grim canopy
oh nice
steep obsidian
nfi about the azurite thing i havent really looked at q&a things and what is on alpha atm is very placeholder
it doesn't even stick when you relog character let alone between specs
grim canopy
lol
sand whale
hate to break it to you but aoe across the board is nerfed and they're really liking their design philosophy of you either choose ST or aoe
steep obsidian
well lock sorta has to make that decision already
but rogue havent had to this expac
as far as talents go
i mean
frozen pecan
nvm what I said before
grim canopy
Erik i don't mean talents i meant specs
steep obsidian
that was me who mentinoed spec not him
gilded lark
Nefy thinking sin gets blade flurry
grim canopy
o
gilded lark
gilded lark
frozen pecan
lul shut it @gilded lark 😅
sand whale
bit of both I suppose monks and rets can still definitely still aoe as their toolkit sin has choices there too, sub on the other hand not so much
just not as strong as they are live
steep obsidian
well every button monk presses does aoe that just how they are
sub got carried this expac but legos and trinket
steep obsidian
yeh more this tier though because their tier is kinda brokenly op
they have been good all expac but not really fotm
gilded lark
Ah
grim canopy
so for teeming week go sub?
sand whale
I'm probably just gonna stay sin
our keys are high enough that pb actually procs and beats sub on packs lol
steep obsidian
depends on your comp and how high keys are to be honest
gilded lark
What level of keys are you running lingo
grim canopy
it was 18 but still
steep obsidian
the extra evasion with step in sin is kinda nice for some mechanics
grim canopy
ill try sub next time
steep obsidian
if you got glaives and the cloak with shoulders it does a lot of burst
sand whale
last time I played sub we did eoa and I forgot dfa means certain death on second boss if you're stupid like me and use it during nova
steep obsidian
if you dfa from max range it keeps you in place
same as aggy
although it annoying
max melee range i mean
sand whale
well on my screen I stayed on the tiny little mound 😦
grim canopy
oh i have no glaves yet
steep obsidian
oh 2nd boss
derr
your tank is bad for not moving it to island beforehand 😛
obv his fault
nocturne gate
can i cloak the sleepthing before it hits on imonar mythic ? so that the heals dont disp me ?
steep obsidian
yes
nocturne gate
but right before it hits ?!
sand whale
you can use it as soon as you see it being thrown towards you
cloak will last long enough
steep obsidian
I don't think you need to "immune" cloak it like the mannoroth debuff
if thats what you mean
wise frigate
You have to cloak before the Sleep Canister hits you. So the moment your boss mod warns you that you have it, you pop it and it'll do nothing.
nocturne gate
but i have to go out of the raid bc the sleep hits them aswell ?!
sand whale
too bad for me I'm the sacraficial rogue so I have to save cloak for the bridge
no if you cloak it won't go off on you
you will just give everyone else a heartattack if you don't let them know you cloaked
gilded lark
It won't hit them because technically it didn't even hit you
wise frigate
Thankfully my guild told me to just save cloak for 3rd bridge so I can still do it in P1.
dire spoke
I want to clear that mofo raid > _< SHITTERS
strange python
we had 2 rogues clearing and still people died to balls :feels:
foggy lotus
i have 2 questions about assaination rogue :
- i just got the shadow-singed fang trinket when it procs do i have to re apply my bleeds in order to get the stat buff onto the dots? or does it happen automatically ?
- the talent of prey on the weak .. does the 15% damage only last for the duration of the stunn effect? example i go and sap a target but soon as it takes damage sap is broken does the 15% extra damage instatly stop?
zealous dew
1)no they are updated dinamically 2) for the duration of the effect
civic palm
Is this a multiple choice question?
gaunt moat
Maybe it's a joke? 🤔
civic palm
Poor joke.
Now that this picture is the size of an avatar I cannot tell whether it's CGI or real o_o
shrewd night
Love it when whites try to make jokes with as few words as possible
gaunt moat
Racist 😕
gaunt moat
I prefer the term "pure"
shrewd night
I think the term pure depends on the eyecolor of you, bunny.
civic palm
I have been trying to figure out how many server ranks I should jump when looking for a new guiiiiild.
shrewd night
I went from 2k to 200
Depends on what you are looking for and how much effort you want to put in at new patches and releases
civic palm
atm I am looking at a 300 to 69 jump.
Dunno if I wanna get hiiiiiigher.
But I wanna get on Disco with them and see how things are going with their raid team.
civic palm
They're only like, 2-3 bosses ahead of us.
Splits are almost fucking dead in BfA due to personal loot restrictions.
Though I do imagine people will still do them.
Lucky is lucky afterall.
gaunt moat
i'll aim for top 100 when looking
civic palm
Server or otherwise?
gaunt moat
world
civic palm
Yeah will have to see if people are still planning splits.
shrewd night
I aimed for top 100 world, but became very realistic when I saw the stupid requirements
civic palm
Things are different going into BfA, some of the idiocy might be gone.
gaunt moat
not likely
civic palm
I said some, not all.
sharp viper
you will be playing again notter?
civic palm
The idiocy of leggos is gone.
The idiocy is 8 splits is likely to be reduced a little.
shrewd night
Im somewhat confident that people will still be playing alts, then pulling the most lucky one into progress
gaunt moat
i'm planning to
civic palm
Though that's only at the very top end, meaning there's a greater chance for World 200 and down to not commit to it.
Also, first tier split runs are gonna be butt.
gaunt moat
i think memento did 3 splits
civic palm
Mostly reasonable.
gaunt moat
my old guild just killed argus this week, they finished like rank 550~
civic palm
Right.
empty tide
hey guys
gaunt moat
dropped a lot of spots this tier
empty tide
anyone using warlords 100 mastery enchant on cloak?
civic palm
on Stormrage is I were to aim for Top 200 on Alliance I have 3 choices.
200 agility is worth more than 100 mastery more-than-likely.
and there are 0 Horde Top 200 World guilds on Stormrage due to being Stormrage.
gaunt moat
change server?
empty tide
yeah my strings are like 51 mastery and 39 agi, so i was thinking of maybing swithing up
sharp viper
my mastery is close but does not sim twice as much as agility
humble crane
No
civic palm
Nah I am not that interested.
humble crane
It would have to be less than half
civic palm
Least not this expansion.
empty tide
i see
sharp viper
only go for wod enchant if your stat sims more than twice agility
civic palm
Not that you are losing much either way > _>
empty tide
make sense
civic palm
DJ is world 300 and they are kinda potato as far as things go.
Change in Guild Management recently, and I've no idea who is leading their raids now.
humble crane
What happened to Sparty?
civic palm
Dunno the story.
humble crane
Must be related to his kid
civic palm
I fucking like how Rogues are very underplayed, yet so few guilds seem to looking for them.
_> hey there
shrewd night
Nah, most people (or good guilds anyways) will always have recruitment open for all classes if you believe you can beat out their current members
steep obsidian
its not tomb of soakgeras anymore
empty tide
yeah, like we got 2 arcanes mages that destroy other 2 frost mages
civic palm
This crazy guild has 2 progression raid teams > _>"
empty tide
so they are up
gaunt moat
it also looks like the 2nd method guild they made after View fell apart, failed after 2 weeks
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/tarren-mill/ClarityEu
protip from expirence: don't join method side guilds
hah
civic palm
Side guilds in general.
shrewd night
Had a few people join that guild from my old one, it was a shitshow
civic palm
or Power Guilds/Super Guilds for new tier grind.
shrewd night
Guild was nice and all, but they literally boosted a handful of people without reason
civic palm
Though this guild has two teams @ 9/11, still nice.
shrewd night
As far as Ive heard anyways
shrewd night
Clariety
steep obsidian
how does 2 prog raid teams even work in one guild, do they just do different times?
civic palm
Yeah AM and PM team.
civic palm
3 nights for both teams, both 9/11
shrewd night
payed to be there
Having seen some of their logs, I can confirm that would be very likely
civic palm
I don't think this guild works that way, as players seem to be recruited for the time slots.
and not falling into one due to sims/performance.
shrewd night
Like they had people parsing greens at 970+ week after week
civic palm
_>
steep obsidian
mmmm green parse
gaunt moat
@shrewd night rogered asked me if i want to join clarity, i said sure, but i hope that it will not have people that we are just boosting.
few days later "hi mate, in the end we went with a different rogue"
hmm.
i don't want to just spread rumors, but i dunno, seemed suspicious at the time.
civic palm
haha
shrewd night
I know the rogue they went with
gaunt moat
who's the rogue
civic palm
dun dun DUUUUUUUUN
steep obsidian
most guilds are fucking shit with apps nowadays i find
civic palm
Shit how?
steep obsidian
non responsive
steep obsidian
like if someone spends the time to write a good app
brisk forge
Cuz ignorante
brisk forge
Ppl trying to be leaders when they clearly arent
civic palm
Not the UGLIEST forums.
steep obsidian
yeh i just got sick of guilds falling apart tbh too much bs n drama
civic palm
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I've seen... much much worse.
The fact that it's styled at all is a plus.
The fact that it's consistent is another plus.
brisk forge
I am in a stable home with nice ranks and a casual enviroment, so there is nice guilds out there 👍🏻
civic palm
Of course there are.
brisk forge
They're rare xD
steep obsidian
see you think you are in a stable guild but if a few quit and you had to reprogress for a few weeks how many would leave?
and like how many times can that happen before even the most loyal say fuckit
shrewd night
civic palm
How to spot the Vanilla guild -
shrewd night
Thats what happened to the past there guilds I was in Sabod
brisk forge
I mean i dont want any less then 11/11m at this point and most 11/11m guild are tryhards but not the one i am in. Good progress but being able to have fun at the same time. That is rare
Every guild can fall apart Ofc, but a friendly guild less so
steep obsidian
only a few of the core have to quit before you go "who the hell are these new assholes I hate them"
but we need them to prog
catch 22
less a problem if your prog is really really good
civic palm
The application does not state anything about split raids.... > _> good.
shrewd night
Went from a guild that was falling apart because key members left, went into a guild in the same situation but where I was the filler
So far, so good I guess
civic palm
GL
brisk forge
I am just happy that i can be a Raider and dont need to focus on recruitment and shit
civic palm
Yeah I very much dodge that shit.
Look I will lift the boxes and answer questions related to direction, but I ain't managing shit.
brisk forge
Idd
rain urchin
tips on m coven? my plan is to just avoid taking damage and multidot as much as I safely can - is there anything I should look to optimize/abuse in particular?
zealous dew
play lock
civic palm
If the tanks are keeping the bosses close enough, FoK can be used to generate.
shrewd night
Id say dont worry about multidotting until your tanks are comfortable with the fight
If they shit the bed, your parse goes out the window anyways
civic palm
Yerp.
shrewd night
sounds like shit locks
civic palm
O _O"
zinc zephyr
is duskwalker worth using on kingaroth mythic?
civic palm
Warlock: The Blizzard UI is not very good for tracking multiDoTing.
shrewd night
@zinc zephyr yes
rain urchin
well they blamed tank positioning but idk
shrewd night
@rain urchin I have a hard time thinking they can at any point just dot one mob. they can stand in the middle of the room and dot whatever they like
rain urchin
just dropping in for a quick rekill before going for aggramar prog
yeahh
hard to say
will prob be better the second time around
civic palm
That's usually the plan.
rain urchin
shoulders/bracers seemed strong on kin for the strat my guild was running
it was me + another sin rogue + dh + tank on an add
shrewd night
Depends on killspeed I guess, bracers had an impact for me because of it, but it might not for others
rain urchin
so we got it to sub 30% quickly and had some nice alone time with it
ymmv, boots is pretty consistent
save cd's for first add and you get to use vendetta in between each add phase
otherwise with shoulders/bracers you're just saving for each add phase
zinc zephyr
@rain urchin we're progressing kingaroth atm. if you are in the small group on the 3rd add leeching poison is a must right?
strange python
Does shorter add phase mean more raid dps?
rain urchin
it'll depend on whether or not you get a healer to go with you on the small group
zinc zephyr
we dont get a healer in small group, thatswhy afflis and havoc does it
rain urchin
if you don't get a healer, you'd probably go leeching but idk if it'd heal you enough to warrant putting you in the healerless group
yeah, after we decided to put 2 rogues in the small group, we got a healer too
if your add phase ends before the boss comes out of stasis, you can cleanly transition into the in-between phase which might help your raid dmg, but kin's stasis is on a fixed timer so if you kill your adds super quick then you'll still be standing around for a bit
steep obsidian
newp
rain urchin
nah
steep obsidian
on heroic its fun when you get to stand around for 10 secs and do nothing
steep obsidian
tbh it should end but that would make cds not lineup properly
rain urchin
getting adds down fast should be your priority anyway, though, since the chaos of having to finish off one or two adds after the boss comes out of stasis can complicate things a lot
not impossible to deal with, but it's a higher risk of failure I guess
zealous dew
mmm losing 4% crit
rain urchin
replacing crit/mast with vers "upgrades" always feels like shit to me lmao
strange python
Gz
rain urchin
yea
strange python
I’m happy for you shantal
zealous dew
i'm not sure I am!
rain urchin
mythic argus... hopefully I get there in a few weeks lol
strange python
Show me your 980 trinket
strange python
sharp viper
i hate you
rain urchin
I've heard that agg is harder than argus, any opinions?
sharp viper
melee is really easy on aggramar, garothi world breaker/varimathras level of easy but it tests if your tanks have a brain and some sort of awareness and knowledge of the fight
I'd say progressing aggramar overall was more draining than argus
jovial kite
all it tests is dk grips and hpala am 
sharp viper
well we had so many people getting launched of the platform or launching themselves off (oh flare beneath me, better disengage to get out of it)
melee only has to soak and not get hit by wake of flame, searing temptest and meteors, you can figure that out pretty fast but if a tank or ranged/healer fucks up a flare it's a wipe and go again
rain urchin
searing tempest?
oh, the big circle thing
makes it sound like heroic lol
I guess I'll see for myself later
sharp viper
oh his taeschalach technique he has 3 abilities, 2x foe breaker, 2x flame rend and 1x searing tempest, the rotation for that varies on mythic
there are weakauras for the technique and for the add energy, but those are only necessary or the most helpful for your tanks and grippers
rain urchin
so you're saying it could go group soak > get out for circle > get back in for group soak ?
sounds like aids, just assumed searing tempest would happen at the end. should watch more kill vids
sharp viper
there are like 4 different orders for the technique, you can check a guide
and as a rogue you can double soak if you have cloak available
rain pewter
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
strange python
Same
safe tiger
does anyone use cloak lego for m+?
solid nova
zealous dew
@jovial kite
you can use it if you know what you will pull next
and have vanish
1st pull you open with 30 stacks then during vanish you swtich to bracers
stuff like that
like in EOA when tank gathers 300 mobs pirates and crabs you have time to build stacks
and do decent dmg
slim estuary
feet or wrists for kin?
granite hound
Not lego
quick ice
vendetta between each add phase AND each add
quick ice
yeah, you;ll find them in the raids. feet was to the other guy
shrewd night
@granite hound There is no bislist because it all depends on titanforging. For general tips on gear, sim yourself.
frozen pecan
trinket tier on herodamage
slim estuary
So most of the top 300 are shoulders/wrists
for kin
is it best to save cds for adds or just use them on cd
shrewd night
^
slim estuary
Im just looking att logs and see shoulder wrists are majority of the top 300. most here are telling me boots but everyone else doesnt
frozen pecan
well use what works better for you
alot of people here said they use shoulders/wrists on kin
shrewd night
Depends on killtime as I mentioned. If you dont spent alot of time in execute shoulder/boots, if actually killing the boss is a problem wrist/boots
imo
frozen pecan
others say they use boots, so do what you prefer 🤷
I prefer shoulders/wrists on kin
shrewd night
I used wrist/boots on progress, now that its on farm I cba even switching legendaries
slim estuary
im progging it now
so we're geared but wont be certain that people will perform
maaaaate dont get me started on these pb's
last week i got 4% on garothi, 0% on dogs (yes none), 7% on imonar
Wanted to cry
frozen pecan
0% lol
frozen pecan
had 15% on high command recently :X
slim estuary
parsed 89 on PK last night running buffs
jovial kite
new phone who pingd dis
slate moat
hey guys, anyone here german?
jovial kite
What was the question 🤔
wise frigate
Protip, click that when you get pinged. Shows the ping.
zealous dew
M+ utility of cloak
frozen pecan
@slate moat not german but I can speak german
wise frigate
It's on the phone too.
slate moat
@frozen pecan are you a good assa rogue? 😉
frozen pecan
good enough
slate moat
a nice i´ll write you a PN
wise frigate
On Android, click to open the left side bar (IE the 3 lines), and it's on the bottom left. On Iphone, should be the same thing I'd assume @jovial kite
frozen pecan
😏
zealous dew
mega kinky
brisk forge
Share the kinky note 😍
frozen pecan
fuck off broadsides 🙃
gilded lark
keen inlet
zealous dew
blade furry
slim estuary
Is it possible tp make a weak aura based on a dbm timer
shrewd night
Uuuuuuh
slim estuary
I want a big ass cd icon for apocalypse protocol coming on
shrewd night
wtf
slim estuary
Anyone want to code something real quick XD
shrewd night
Like, Im not sure why need that. The decisions that impact your burst during addphase are made up to 1,13 minutes ahead of protocol
vapid moth
Kinda dissapointed that there wasn't a big ass red button we were supposed to press in zny of the antorus raid fights
jovial kite
@wise frigate til. Ty
slim estuary
Is there a wa that calls out non tanks popping kin bombs
faint vale
Wcl has a blame function in problems
slim estuary
i want it to call out in raid so that we can correct their position
i had one for maiden bombs
faint vale
Afaik there is no indication. So you need to calculate who took the highest damage before mitigation
shrewd night
You might be able to spot visually
quick ice
track with replay probably
faint vale
For logs prior to 7.3.5, WCL is using a heuristic to determine the bomb target, so it might not be 100% accurate. For logs post-7.3.5, the list below is 100% accurate (you can verify this by looking for the Encounter Event buff on players who hit bombs).
From wcl. So there is an event you can track