assassination

[safe matrix]

Because I do :<

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/zWaTQ/959f047c31.png

youre only doing 4cp envenoms after vanish

[spare cloud]

Cant a guy tell anothet guy that he appreciates him nowadays

or what?

[marble hemlock]

he most likely is doing 5cp

[lunar coral]

does it even out in the end? or is 5cp vanish always the way to go

like what if i get to 4cp then i fok before?

[spare cloud]

No.

[marble hemlock]

if you want to maximize the bonusdamage from NS, you will obviously want to do 5cp finsihers, yes

you just vanish earlier

in your opener there, you couldve vanished the envenom after the kingsbane

for a 5cp envenom

[astral sundial]

maybe he didn't have his SSF proc on? just throwing things that could make envenom do less dmg ^^

[fervent beacon]

Well, you should always vanish after KB anyway

[spare cloud]

optimal play would be having envenom up f rom previously

[marble hemlock]

you can also have a look at the "guide" opener in the pins

[spare cloud]

then tb kb to 5 cp

then vanish into 3 envenoms

[marble hemlock]

either of those should fix your problem

[spare cloud]

or tb at 9 seconds of kb

then in the last 5 seconds do vanish combo

[fervent beacon]

Garrote > Mut > Rup > Vend > TBonCD > KB > Vanish > Env smash mut env during mantle window

[spare cloud]

but you cant always do it

[lunar coral]

ya i try to get env buff before the vanish

but maybe that's not that important then?

[shrewd oriole]

No

It isn’t

[marble hemlock]

its not

rupture also applies surge of toxins

[fervent beacon]

Not really that important, you're going to env soon as you vanish anyway so

[shrewd oriole]

Specially cuz with your opener you run the risk of going into vanish with 3 cp

[fervent beacon]

^

[shrewd oriole]

Which means you’re doing a mut 100% crit at 3 cp

[marble hemlock]

yeah, i didnt actually mention that

[lunar coral]

ok that makes sense. thanks everyone! it was bugging me and i couldn't figure it out...4cp....

[fervent beacon]

TB+KB will bring you to 5cp

[shrewd oriole]

Aka wasting 2 cp

That’s aids

[marble hemlock]

your mut before your vanish isnt 100%crit anymore, so youre doing anything from 2-4cp envenoms, not 5

[fervent beacon]

Not aids as wasting 100cps

[safe matrix]

Look I did it

[shrewd oriole]

3* cp actually

Cuz you go to 8

[safe matrix]

I diagnosed the problem

[shrewd oriole]

Or 7

Idk

I’m retarded

You waste 2

Appreciated

[fervent beacon]

Yes Tomaber, you're indeed retarded

[marble hemlock]

so yeah, i suggest you take a look at the pins on the top of the discord window, there should be a picture and/or guide with the default-opener with mantle

[safe matrix]

Check the guide

👀

[lone junco]

this tight opener, is really good. the TB and KB land in the opening shoulder

[shrewd oriole]

Noobe with the handy pictures

[lone junco]

that is idea.

[fervent beacon]

Don't forget to check the guide btw.

[marble hemlock]

that should remedy your opener issues, and just by looking at the logs scarcely youre not doing too shabby so the opener should be your biggest issue right now

and the rest seems to be going okay

[zenith cloak]

When you vanish into 3 envenoms do you want to continue to envenom spam or is it not as important when u don’t have shoulders buff

[fervent beacon]

My fav opening

[marble hemlock]

2vanish in a 4min fight is not enough though, so that too should be helped

[lone junco]

i got u on that one

[shrewd oriole]

Outside of Tb and vanish

You wanna refresh envenom on pandemic

Ish

[safe matrix]

If you don't have shoulders you vanish rupture

To snapshot it

[dire spoke]

yeah vanish should be at 5.5

[lone junco]

damn. where is my carrot meme

[safe matrix]

Do you even carrot all?

[marble hemlock]

can bigwigs stop yelling at me for using an old version?

[lone junco]

its my bis Garothi. lolled. when i reviewed it

[fervent beacon]

I hadn't updated my addons in like months

[zenith cloak]

Do I constantly want to refresh envenom pandemic throughout a fight? Or is it ok if it falls off

[shrewd oriole]

It’s ok if it falls off

But optimally you want it not to

[safe matrix]

You don't want it to ever fall off during kingsbane though

[shrewd oriole]

That is true

[fervent beacon]

Pro tip to keeping env up for whole fight

[marble hemlock]

i only ever update bossmods when i see a timer being wrong or somethin stopped working

[fervent beacon]

spec ALACRITY instead of toxic blade.

[marble hemlock]

never change a running system

[astral sundial]

@safe matrix for me, in every setup without shoulders subterfuge is better...so I would assume most ppl it's just vanish>garrote

[calm grail]

Sometimes I Kingsbane Imonar before he takes off across the bridge.

I'm not going to hold that shit for like 40 seconds

[fervent beacon]

@calm grail

[marble hemlock]

smart

[zenith cloak]

I do that too

[safe matrix]

I don't play without shoulders 🤷

[shrewd oriole]

Me either

[fervent beacon]

I do, playing boots/bracers are fun but now im back to shoulders/bracers or shoulders/boots for progress

[shrewd oriole]

If anything

Boots bracers are best on progress

And worst on farm

So that confuses me

[marble hemlock]

some of these openers you couldnt come up with even if you wanted to

[zenith cloak]

What’s best for prog?

[calm grail]

Without shoulders Vanish isn't a free ticket to flavortown.

And who doesn't want to go to flavortown

[shrewd oriole]

Bracers boots cuz consistency

You want consistency for progress

[zenith cloak]

Thought so

[fervent beacon]

We're working on Agg atm so we aren't going to get anywhere close to 30% at this point

[shrewd oriole]

Same dps every single pull

[lone junco]

@marble hemlock rip

[marble hemlock]

prydaz+valeera for progression

[shrewd oriole]

[marble hemlock]

so you dont wipe

[lone junco]

that 4garrote was my a bota fish.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[safe matrix]

Also don't boots/bracers get better with fight length?

[shrewd oriole]

Prydaz is only a 50k dps loss

@safe matrix yeah

[safe matrix]

And progression has higher fight lengths usually

[fervent beacon]

It does but if we're going to wipe within 20%, there's no point for me using bracers

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Sure

[marble hemlock]

when we started progress on avatar/argus

[calm grail]

Play like you're gonna winnnnn

[marble hemlock]

i was playing belt

dont judge

[fervent beacon]

Implying my guild will win

🤔

[calm grail]

Don't gear for a wipe!

[shrewd oriole]

They started aggra progres now

They’re clearly not winners

[fervent beacon]

[zenith cloak]

How many MA relics do I wanna have with shoulders wrists? I’m using 2 rn and it feels like it’s not right

[marble hemlock]

im gearing for getting through p1 faster when people still cant do the damage theyre supposed to 😄

[fervent beacon]

Coven/Vari went down pretty fast tho, less than a day progress on those two

[shrewd oriole]

1 or 3

[marble hemlock]

1 or 3

[zenith cloak]

Oof

[shrewd oriole]

Coven and vari are also a joke

[safe matrix]

With 2 you still have to hold the 8 seconds so it isn't out of alignment

[shrewd oriole]

Aggra is the 1st hard boss

[fervent beacon]

Anything is a joke if they don't take me

[zenith cloak]

What do u mean hold the 8 seconds?

[shrewd oriole]

Anything is easy if you don’t take an OL rogue

[fervent beacon]

That's why I still don't have mythic coven kill

[safe matrix]

Either 1 or 3 causes vendetta to line with toxic blade casts

[fervent beacon]

I'm actually sin, I'm just yellow because of Alacrity

[shrewd oriole]

Ah

[solid nova]

@shrewd oriole much better 👌

[shrewd oriole]

Fair

[fervent beacon]

But I'm back to using TB because my crit got down to 32% from 38%

[shrewd oriole]

This girl is a turbo thot tho

[manic vigil]

That girl is smoking

[shrewd oriole]

But she had a nice ass

[calm grail]

I have three Malch relics but I cannot find a Malch with Master Assassin for shit

[solid nova]

It's all about ass tho

[shrewd oriole]

I couldn’t hold a convo with her

She was so tedious

[fervent beacon]

The worst

[safe matrix]

I can't stand those girls tbh

[fervent beacon]

[manic vigil]

That sucks

[shrewd oriole]

I can

[zenith cloak]

I have 2 malch and 2 of them rolled MA

[shrewd oriole]

For short periods of time

[dire spoke]

lmao

[fervent beacon]

Of course you can, you want to smash that ass

[manic vigil]

Now now

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/77b8d117490b4202a9b389435f42c01e

rip argus ranks

[dire spoke]

talk about her nails

[fervent beacon]

Hey Slagg, get your bleed outta here

😡

[manic vigil]

Slagg do you mind we talking ass rn

[shrewd oriole]

@dire spoke or her IG followed

Followers*

[dire spoke]

yeah

musically

[shrewd oriole]

Whilst we were hooking up she legit sent me a pic of avocado and toast every morning

[dire spoke]

lmfao

[safe matrix]

lul

[zenith cloak]

@safe matrix what did you mean by with 2 u still have to hold the 8 seconds

[fervent beacon]

avocado and toast every morning

[dire spoke]

does she have bathtub+legs images?

[fervent beacon]

[shrewd oriole]

@dire spoke of course

She was worth it

[dire spoke]

classic snitch

[fervent beacon]

This 20 years old girl with sweetest ass always send me the legs and bathtub image

[shrewd oriole]

Ate her ass like a cupcake

[fervent beacon]

let me see if i can find a picture

[manic vigil]

[safe matrix]

Because with 1 or 3 relics your tb lines up with vendetta if you use it on demand basically, but if you have 2 it comes off cd out of alignment with tb

Thas why 2 mass relics are meh

But 3 is great

[zenith cloak]

So since I have 2 I just want to use tb on cd and not wait for Ven

[fervent beacon]

Hey hey

Can we go back to talking about ass in here?

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Booty

[fervent beacon]

otherwise I'm going to leave this sausage fest.

[safe matrix]

Im trying to, but I got pinged back on topic

[manic vigil]

[safe matrix]

You don't hold tb for vendetta if that's what you're implying

[astral sundial]

say @jovial kite what setup did you use for this? I see most rogues don't use shoulders on argus

[safe matrix]

He did bleed

Also tom was that the Israeli girl?

[zenith cloak]

Yea just wanted clarification I use it on cd as of now so I’ll continue to do that but when I get 3 ma relics do I keep tb for Ven?

[safe matrix]

They should line up that way already

[fervent beacon]

@astral sundial Safe bet its boots/bracers as Slagg is bleed

[zenith cloak]

Ok

[safe matrix]

Tom

[fervent beacon]

I don't know if that's an ass or her titties in that picture

[safe matrix]

^

[shrewd oriole]

Tiddies

She’s drowning in tits ahahah

[safe matrix]

Ur gonna get band of giggle ever catches wind of this

[fervent beacon]

I'm not a fan of big titties

my hands are too small to appreciate it.

[dire spoke]

wtf was that image

W

T

F

[shrewd oriole]

Right

[fervent beacon]

For an example, if I can hold firmly a small watermelon with one hand, its good size

[shrewd oriole]

Funny as shit if you ask me

It’s my favorite nude I’ve ever gotten

[safe matrix]

?????

[fervent beacon]

I gotten many nudes from my friends phone when they leave it for me to look after it because they would get tired of men bugging her and etc

and her locked folders uses the same password as her password to get in the phone

🤷

[solid nova]

https://gph.is/2uem4ua

[jovial kite]

@astral sundial i play exsang

[manic vigil]

I missed the nudes

[solid nova]

I came back just in time to see it

[fervent beacon]

Tbh, her ex was like hey I know you have my ex phone, you should check out her snapchat folder

[bitter coyote]

Hey what am i supposed to do with vanish? using Rupture or envenom? in the logs everyone uses Envenom with vanish but ravenhold says use Rupture (dont own the shoulders yet)

[fervent beacon]

Rupture without mantle

[north basin]

why people take pictures of their asses and pussies/dicks? never had such intention in my mind

[marble hemlock]

oh innocent one...

[astral sundial]

subterfuge without mantle...

[strange python]

Why not

[fervent beacon]

otherwise you can also run sub as well

NS/Subterfuge are about to be equal without mantle

[dire spoke]

@bitter coyote read the guide please 😄

[keen inlet]

because they're proud of their fleshy bits

[fervent beacon]

or at least it sims pretty close to each other

[north basin]

iam not innocent and frequent user of celebjihad but still,, xD

[marble hemlock]

because sometimes when youre sexting/teasing, you dont just want to do it in text-form

[fervent beacon]

@keen inlet They're thirsty for attention in a nutshell.

[keen inlet]

validate me

[shrewd oriole]

Yep

[keen inlet]

wait sorry

[fervent beacon]

🍆

[shrewd oriole]

GOVE ME ATTENTION

[keen inlet]

WITNESS ME

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet send me a picture of your beard

[fervent beacon]

🍑 🍆

[shrewd oriole]

I’ll validate you daddy

[keen inlet]

my beard's RIP

[fervent beacon]

Here's my old beard Tom

[astral sundial]

@fervent beacon for me subterfuge always seems higher without shoulders - but I think even if it a little bit, subterfuge is easier to get full benefit of, especially if you are new

[shrewd oriole]

Really?

I’m trying to grow mine

Not full fledged beard

More like Johnny depo

[bitter coyote]

i did thats what im confused about the guide says "use rupture if specced into nightstalker" but literally no one in any log uses rupture^^

[lament pawn]

Guys does any1 have a BiS list so i can setup my Best In Slot Redux for mythic antorus

[bitter coyote]

but thanks for clarification :p

[fervent beacon]

Beard#1

[strange python]

BiS list?

[marble hemlock]

impressive

not so impressive

[shrewd oriole]

This is like two weeks old

[marble hemlock]

in that order

[strange python]

Now that is a beard

[keen inlet]

I mean it's just a short beard

[fervent beacon]

And then I shaved, regrew it again before went travelling

[shrewd oriole]

How long did it take you to grow?

[manic vigil]

Missing the nudes but being around for the weird beard shots

[shrewd oriole]

Voidbutt more like void daddy

[dire spoke]

@bitter coyote it also says use envenom with mantle

[shrewd oriole]

😫😫😫😫

[bitter coyote]

fml im blind

[fervent beacon]

The first beard, that was roughly 9 months growing

and 2nd was about 5-6 months

[keen inlet]

yeah

it took me a long time to grow mine out

[shrewd oriole]

@bitter coyote most logs use shoulders

[bitter coyote]

yeah

lets pretend i never asked that

[shrewd oriole]

Alright fair

I’m not ashamed of my 2 weeks old one then

[keen inlet]

and tbh idk if it's because of injuries from when I was a kid or what but the section between my chin and bottom lip never grows much

[strange python]

@jester(Phob0s)#8005 impossible to have a bis list for legion

[lament pawn]

@strange python How i could set it up for my Rc loot council then

[shrewd oriole]

Know what stats are good

Roll on items with good stats

??

[fervent beacon]

You have to sim yourself to get your stats weight and basically determine which pieces will be ideally be the best

[gaunt moat]

are we taking beard pics now? cause i just shaved last week 😦

[fervent beacon]

Notter, you know shaving your beard basically makes you weaker

so you won't be able to lift heavier weight anymore

[manic vigil]

[dire spoke]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WZf5waQmUjU/maxresdefault.jpg

[keen inlet]

that was at the longest. Look at that gap between my lip and beard

[manic vigil]

[keen inlet]

also look at my atrophying muscles

[shrewd oriole]

Jose looks nothing like I expected him to

[manic vigil]

My virgin eyes

[keen inlet]

6'2" 145 lbs

in that pic

[fervent beacon]

I hope you're heavier than that

😂

[keen inlet]

that was...2 yrs ago

I am NOW

[strange python]

That rabbit tho

[keen inlet]

but hiking for 5 months straight just destroyed me

wife & I did the whole thing together tho

[dire spoke]

look at me, I used my feet

[keen inlet]

p.much

[north basin]

sorry for offtopic but have urgent question . i have 3 maas relics, i do like this regular opener like everyone then my fight loooks like this 2 phases 1) toxicblade + kingsbane 2)toxicblade+kingsbane + vendetta. i do like 2.3kk single target. wanted to ask. if i do toxicblade kingsbane vendetta as soon as they comes off cd will i do better? right now i align like i said into 2 phases.

[manic vigil]

[strange python]

How much do you sim for

[gaunt moat]

while you were mastering the foot
i was mastering the blade
😎

[keen inlet]

mastering the bate*

[manic vigil]

[gaunt moat]

!warn @keen inlet bullying

[chrome tusk]

Uhhhhh, you can't warn a moderator.

[gaunt moat]

shit

[strange python]

Get rekt

[manic vigil]

[keen inlet]

YOU TRIGGERED MY TRAP CARD!

This allows me to play ONE CARD FROM MY DECK

it is

[safe matrix]

I still need the connector between my mustache and beard

[safe matrix]

It hasn't grown in yet ._.

[keen inlet]

CAPTAIN YESTERDAY

idk what he does

he's fast, from the past

you figure it out

[shrewd oriole]

Are you swole now Jose

Rocking that dad bod?

[keen inlet]

haha

[strange python]

@north basin you can look at your sim and see every action it makes at every second in the html report

[shrewd oriole]

Large arms thicc belly

[keen inlet]

I'm about to cut heavily

[safe matrix]

Thicc

[shrewd oriole]

-nah dude

[keen inlet]

for hiking season

[shrewd oriole]

The beer belly is crucial

[safe matrix]

Girls like that dad bod

[shrewd oriole]

For being a dad

[safe matrix]

Dad jose

[polar grail]

Rear Admiral Dad Jose

[keen inlet]

was talking with my wife today and I didn't realize she was at her heaviest when I first met her

[polar grail]

He didn't go to pirate school for 6 years to be called mr

[keen inlet]

even 6mo pregnant she's not quite up to her initial weight

[shrewd oriole]

She got lighter after marriage?

That’s a first

[keen inlet]

yeah I won the lottery there

[shrewd oriole]

Idd

[keen inlet]

idk it's not that uncommon these days

[shrewd oriole]

I’m rocking those abs rn but I’m just waiting to get married to get into beer and skip the gym

[keen inlet]

lotta late 20-to-late-30-somethings joining crossfit etc

[manic vigil]

Yeah people are obsessed with fitness lately

[polar grail]

everone wants to be an IG fitness model

[shrewd oriole]

When I went to America I experienced both extremes

[keen inlet]

it's borderline meme

yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Really fat people and really fit people

[keen inlet]

usa is extremes

either obese or fit. I mean there are in-betweeners but our culture is just weird rn

[fervent beacon]

Kind of have to keep in shape if I'm taking off my clothes for money.

[manic vigil]

Fair

[keen inlet]

C O N C E R N S

[manic vigil]

Why

[fervent beacon]

200 per hour is ezpz money for 15 mins

And I do local amateur stripping night for easy money.

1k on average grand prize

[gaunt moat]

welp.

[strange python]

Go on

[shrewd oriole]

I respect the Jussie

The hussle*

[safe matrix]

^

[manic vigil]

Time for some bunny pictures

Hint hint @gaunt moat

[gaunt moat]

https://scontent.fsdv2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/29942641_10216003894719404_827158307_o.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=0020c68315c85df3f3031bf3cea0bb03&oe=5AC6BC85

[latent merlin]

hey guys - Voidstalkers Contract.. is that any good?

[manic vigil]

🐰

[latent merlin]

for m+

[supple hearth]

@latent merlin for m+ probably more for sub than sin

[safe matrix]

Good for sub

[supple hearth]

U alternate it with glaives

For nice aoe

[latent merlin]

the only other aoe-trinket i have is terrorbound nexus

[dire spoke]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/f0/de/5af0de1179ea4cd07eda82a96e542151.jpg

[latent merlin]

or pantheon

[supple hearth]

Gross

[manic vigil]

So mean

[shrewd oriole]

Wow cmon ..

[manic vigil]

Are you into Tom or why do you keep bullying him

[shrewd oriole]

that’s just mean

[keen inlet]

I need an animal avatar

[hoary copper]

Even gay men have standards you know. Someones gotta counter the egotism

[shrewd oriole]

Dude there’s this girl that’s locked her eyes into me every time we’ve crossed each other like 8 times now

[hoary copper]

An animal with a beard?

[shrewd oriole]

I should ask her her name

[safe matrix]

Don why are you asking for a fursona

[shrewd oriole]

Out of those

How many play the game

[manic vigil]

[supple hearth]

A lot

Of us do

[hoary copper]

I think Ive ever just seen Don, fuu, giggle and notter

[manic vigil]

Wow ded game

[shrewd oriole]

Pvp doesn’t count as playing the game

[safe matrix]

Also infexious isn't an animal

[supple hearth]

🤔

[safe matrix]

He's a skull with a mask

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah he is

[supple hearth]

I also m+

[shrewd oriole]

Have you heard his accent

[supple hearth]

And why would u run raid 1000 times over and over if you've done it once already

[keen inlet]

that's an eagle skull

or vulture*

so animal

counts

[safe matrix]

No it doesn't

[keen inlet]

I think I'd be walrus or bison

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth but you said the other day you haven’t killed argus M

[keen inlet]

those are my favs.

[shrewd oriole]

So you haven’t done it a single time

[spare cloud]

Why would you do the same bg over again 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

[spare cloud]

Why would you play the same arenas more than once 🤔

[dire spoke]

promoteme

[manic vigil]

Why not a sneaky snake

[hoary copper]

https://storybird.s3.amazonaws.com/artwork/Oya/full/the-turtle-man.jpeg @keen inlet as a turtle?

[spare cloud]

when you have already seen all the classes

[keen inlet]

Don

[strange python]

Have to kill argus m to qualify for shadowblade

[shrewd oriole]

Flowi would be the only mod

[strange python]

Thats not a rabbit

[manic vigil]

Omg that's perfect

[shrewd oriole]

Hello I’ve killed argus onnormal

I’ve basically seen the whole game

Quitting

[safe matrix]

LFR argus**

[shrewd oriole]

There’s another babe at the pool but her eye brow game is wack

[hoary copper]

https://d2gg9evh47fn9z.cloudfront.net/800px_COLOURBOX18659002.jpg whoever posted that wedding photo earlier...was that Don?

[marble hemlock]

at this point id prefer lfr argus to mythic argus

[manic vigil]

Tom is extra woke today.

[shrewd oriole]

It’s the vodka

[keen inlet]

@hoary copper yeah, that was me

Don ?

[shrewd oriole]

Make me give less shots

Shits*

[supple hearth]

Argue how you will PvP is 100x more intense than pve ever will be

[shrewd oriole]

[hoary copper]

Bison is less furry

[shrewd oriole]

[keen inlet]

tom

once was enough

lol.

[manic vigil]

Bison seems smelly

Well the walrus probably doesn't smell good either

[shrewd oriole]

Uh this lul is new

The Asian one

[keen inlet]

Donkleosteus?

[strange python]

Cute

[keen inlet]

my fav prehistoric beastie

[hoary copper]

https://previews.123rf.com/images/samorodinov/samorodinov1502/samorodinov150200041/36618456-lonely-lion-beard-curls-curls.jpg

[keen inlet]

armored shark-eater

[hoary copper]

Perfect for you

[shrewd oriole]

Don

Is that Asian lul against the rules

[keen inlet]

idk tbh

[strange python]

No Asians allowed

[shrewd oriole]

Just to make sure I’m not doing anything illegal

[keen inlet]

I can barely make it out

if it singles out a race

probably?

[manic vigil]

It's bad at driving tho

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t wanna get banned like iwin

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Spamming an emote for weeks then one day Shazam

You’re done

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Found how you do it

Minglul

[keen inlet]

Yeaaaaah probably bad idea to use that

[hoary copper]

iwin is banned again?

[shrewd oriole]

alright

No more minglul

[keen inlet]

me slidin' up on your gril

[shrewd oriole]

@hoary copper iwin has been banned for like 3 weeks now

He, naya, flowi, nelbur

All gone

[hoary copper]

I must have missed that, I think I saw one of those but dont remember

[shrewd oriole]

Naya and flowi didn’t get banned

They just left

[keen inlet]

they reside in Riff's Salt Mine

with me

[hoary copper]

Im just existing, barely finding things fun with the game anymore and barely playing as much

[shrewd oriole]

Or toms poe chat

With tom

[manic vigil]

"apparently saber is typing" still cracks me up

[keen inlet]

@hoary copper Do you have a moment to talk about the sensation that is the Nintendo Switch and the Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild?

[supple hearth]

I think the lul emote is fine personally

[hoary copper]

@keen inlet you're going to buy me a switch?!

[shrewd oriole]

Idk

Is ok

[keen inlet]

I mean they took a white guy and photoshopped him with slanty eyes and a rice farmer hat

[shrewd oriole]

Is ok

Cuz if noggers isn’t ok

[keen inlet]

that's where my "idk" comes in

[shrewd oriole]

In my mind

None of those are ok

Using the same criteria

[keen inlet]

cmonbruh is more about his facial expression

[safe matrix]

I just beat BotW

[manic vigil]

I agree

[shrewd oriole]

is clearly making fun of the Asian stereotype

[keen inlet]

isn't racist, it's about the hand motion

[safe matrix]

Not champion mode though

[keen inlet]

etc

[manic vigil]

I love

[safe matrix]

I might get the dlc

[shrewd oriole]

is used in a racist way

[manic vigil]

Not for the racial bs

[shrewd oriole]

On twitch

[manic vigil]

True

[keen inlet]

I wasn't aware

[manic vigil]

So is the English language

[shrewd oriole]

Whenever a character “steals something” people go like

[keen inlet]

I pay 0 attention to Twitch chat

as it's just spammy stupidity

[strange python]

Dont you know pepe is a racist hate symbol

[shrewd oriole]

wutchu say

[manic vigil]

Depends on the stream don

[keen inlet]

regardless

[supple hearth]

Depends on the intent. If you feel like something is/could be racist probably good idea to just not use it. What's fine with me may not be fine with someone else and Visa versa

[keen inlet]

if there's any ? it's probably best just not to use it

[supple hearth]

^

[keen inlet]

there are plenty of not-gray-area alternatives

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

“TriHard NEVER SUBBED TriHard NEVER DONATED TriHard ADBLOCK ON TriHard STOLEN LAPTOP TriHard NEIGHBORS WIFI TriHard FREE ENTERTAINMENT TriHard”

[manic vigil]

Is awesome

[shrewd oriole]

This is how trihard is used commonly on twitch

[manic vigil]

Yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Which is clearly racist if you’re using the same criteria that claims noggers is racist

Imo at least

[supple hearth]

The name "noggers" itself is racist

[shrewd oriole]

Nah cuz you can claim it comes from nigga

[north basin]

@strange python tnx gona watch actions in html too

[shrewd oriole]

And not hard r

Nigga isn’t racist

🤷

[supple hearth]

Maybe not where you're from lol

[strange python]

nogga

[keen inlet]

Depends on the culture.

And locale.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[keen inlet]

And a lot of context.

So again...why use it

[shrewd oriole]

Black Americans use nigga

A lot more than black Europeans

[keen inlet]

unless you're just trying to be a tedious contrarian 😉

[shrewd oriole]

From personal experience

So idk

[keen inlet]

which, imo, is a misuse of intellect/creativity....

[shrewd oriole]

Hardly any of my friends use nigga

As often as my black American friends

[supple hearth]

That's a discussion of itself. Regardless it's considered racist to use in NA

[shrewd oriole]

In my opinion it’s only racist to use if you’re white

But since you’re a 40 year old 200 pound black man

You’re clear

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

I can’t watch 😦

YouTube streams load but not twitch streams

For some reason

Plus I’m busy

Living life or something

I’ve been debating for a solid 15 minutes if I should go the beach that the girl that eye locked me a couple of times is at

And strike a conversation

What do you think @supple hearth

Help me out

[strange python]

Talking to other humans is so stressful

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but women dude

Talking to women is so refreshing

[north basin]

@strange python can i find action list in raidbots or i need simcraft ?

addon

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole do whatever means you will be here less.

[strange python]

There should be an option that says "see full html report" in raidbots

[manic vigil]

notter

Savage

[supple hearth]

@shrewd oriole if the debate is whether or not to strike a conversation I say yes. Do it. Worse case scenario nothing comes from it. But if you don't even try then it's a missed opportunity

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat wow...

Why the hate

[echo estuary]

because love starts with hate

[shrewd oriole]

Ahahah

Nah notter hates me

He called me saber

[vestal wren]

didnt know saber is a insult

[hoary copper]

idk its better than some of the other nicknames you have

[shrewd oriole]

Calling someone saber is the ultimate insult @vestal wren

[vestal wren]

oh i thought that was logan paul

[shrewd oriole]

At least Logan Paul is rich

[hoary copper]

https://imgur.com/a/wl5TQ

Theres a whole album there

[vestal wren]

http://www.wowhead.com/news=283292/azerite-traits-for-testable-heart-of-azeroth-system-in-26367

its on wowhead news

😉

[gaunt moat]

and i also pinned it in general

[hoary copper]

no one goes to general

[vestal wren]

well your pin has no information about what the traits do

you might want to add the wowhead link

[wispy zephyr]

I have leg boots and just grinding for leg shoulders but currently I have the insignia ring and the soul ring. Which is better?

[gaunt moat]

i already did

[shrewd oriole]

Sim it

But most likely insignia

[hoary copper]

the freebe insignia ring from quest?

[wispy zephyr]

yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Oh

[hoary copper]

yea it's probably not that, probably boots soul? like Tom said you'd have to sim

[shrewd oriole]

That’s not the right indigna

I assume insigna of ravenholdt

😃

[wispy zephyr]

no :p the one from the quest insignia of the grand army

[hoary copper]

that one is trash, put it in your bank and cry as it rots there

[wispy zephyr]

never simmed before tbh

[hoary copper]

www.raidbots.com

You can go to the gear sets or if you have the simulationcraft addon you can copy and paste taht into top gear

[vapid moth]

The azerite numbers are so fucking weird

[hoary copper]

Woah, Xae...you're blue

[vapid moth]

Yeah

[hoary copper]

(ah ba de ah ba dae)

[vapid moth]

But like I said. Why are the numbers weird. I thought base ilvl would be something like 250 or 300

[hoary copper]

Rock version of the Cranberries song "Zombie". more enjoyable than the original

[jovial kite]

should've squished back to tbc values IMO

[safe matrix]

Vanilla values

Gimme my fire resist gear

[jovial kite]

i didnt mind resistance gear

its an rpg element

shame they scuffed all those

[hoary copper]

Nature Resist gear too for uh....the one in Silithus wasnt it? was cruddy too

[fervent beacon]

AQ40.

Naxx needed frost resist, Rag also needed fire resist too.

I think mage used shadow resist or was that lock in BT?

And Im referring to vanilla naxx.

[ocean grotto]

Didnt the whole raid use sr on shahraz

[fervent beacon]

Ah yes.

[dire spoke]

almost outperformed 950 rogue

[manic vigil]

toph, just out of curiosity, what do I need to do to become "bae" again?

also, what does "bae" mean exactly?

I could change my avatar to some korean grill. or even b etter a korean dude without a nose

here we go!

I can't?

google will tell me

[lone junco]

@gusty kestrel grats boots.

[novel dragon]

What artifact relics are most people seeking from Antorus? Kin-garoth Oil Sump / Fasces of Endless / Svirax or what?

[fervent beacon]

Master alchemy or master assassin

[lone junco]

Malch and mass. over and over and over.

[strange python]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[dire spoke]

almost outperformed 950 rogue on my 925 dk

[manic vigil]

let's see what's in the box

[lone junco]

my 920 Dh gave me a run. 4-6m trash packs.

@gusty kestrel I havent seen insig bracer, so if you are playing alac, then gotta be boot. nice boots to be in your bago ttho

[spare cloud]

Tyra plays insig bracer

[novel dragon]

Alright so 3 Mass Relics > 1 Mass and 2 Malch? If I'm reading this spreadsheet right

[manic vigil]

sounds awesome tho

tyra ftw

[dire spoke]

@spare cloud I'm 925 now

[hoary copper]

@dire spoke the wackamole spec? aka frost?

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/NijQve.jpg

[manic vigil]

is unholy ded? man I loved unholy

[hoary copper]

Thats a pretty decent sim for 925 and not having best leggos

I liked the idea of unholy

[dire spoke]

I did 1.06m on garothi

ez

[hoary copper]

they are SO SO slow though

Even my paladin feels like a race car comparatively

[polar light]

Unholy is fine

[hoary copper]

wraithwalk pebble! stop moving or go backwards

[dire spoke]

dude this walk

it's the most stupid thing

[hoary copper]

yea it's...weird

[dire spoke]

hey here have your only moving ability, but it gets canceled if you use stuff

gud

done some tuning

sim 1.2m now

[hoary copper]

Frost seems like it would be boring, 3 buttons just press it when it glows

[spare cloud]

as someone who started a frost I can say that frost is more difficult than dh and warrior

as far as melees go

[grim jay]

I just caught @supple hearth at the monk discord

🥄

[pure kayak]

can anyone tell me bis relics ?

[dire spoke]

herodamage.com

[grim jay]

!singuide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[dire spoke]

@hoary copper it is glowy button smashing while obliteration but there is actually some stuff to minmax

starting from standing at the right position on cleave into pooling for priorities

[safe matrix]

I got a 960 one of those from lfr once

mythic raider btw

[grim jay]

already disenchanted so many up to ilvl 980

[lone junco]

shoulder boot is popular.

[dire spoke]

I don't know how to parse on KG either

[lone junco]

and, dont have any DH or burst classes on your add.

you do.

but i hate it.

[lean hill]

You just don't use it until adds

[lone junco]

but best parses prob have stacked dps in certain places. let you get a good full vendetta on each without losing uptime.

[dire spoke]

I did a effing 90 on hasabel and carried greens and oranges, I was like wut

[lone junco]

I make sure to put Arcane and DH on the other 2 adds

get out of my zone fools

shoulder boot, is tbkb open then tbkb vend add, then vend between. and add and between.

or just god bombs in the shoulders

Exang aligns each ad.

just not a god bomb.

[pure kayak]

i cant find bis relics..

[lone junco]

still not a 8-12m god bomb tho

[dire spoke]

@pure kayak there is no such thing as BiS in Legion, you need to check out the traits on herodamage.com

make sure to pick your lego comb

[lone junco]

@pure kayak vendetta, deadly poison, mutcrit are all good. there are crucible weights on the hd. combos

but if you are like 885 with no tier, none of that shit applies.

[pure kayak]

thanks @dire spoke @lone junco

[quiet junco]

I'm 29 crit, i have eye also.
190 mast an I think like 7 vers... am i in the ball park of stat weights. I'll sim when I get home. But just curious what others look like .

[dire spoke]

don't 👏🏻 compare 👏🏻 yourself

it's not happening with assassination

[void pecan]

Sassy.

[dire spoke]

to many variables, you can compare stats at sub

[quiet junco]

I meant as crit isn't there a 30% soft cap or is that gone

[void pecan]

depends

on a lot of shit

we have no "caps"

nor can you compare yourself to someone else.

[dire spoke]

basically what I just said lmao

[lone junco]

@quiet junco crit is typ between 26 and 56. depending on talents and gear and tier and ilvl and relics.

[void pecan]

You seem to have this noobe.'

[quiet junco]

Okay , just coming back from tomb an there was a un written rule to make sure to have like 30 some crit before mast stack wasn't sure if that was still a thing

[lone junco]

I try to avoid "sim urslef nub"

[dire spoke]

well I just vanish then

[lone junco]

@quiet junco stat weights will set you free. if you have shoulders, you can use less crit. If no shoulders, then you will need more crit. thats about it.

[quiet junco]

Of to the drawling boards I go then 👌

[void pecan]

👍

[safe matrix]

Remember to kys

Keep Yourself Simmed

😄

[hoary copper]

https://i.gifer.com/1YDL.gif

[prisma cypress]

trying to decide whether to play assassination rogue or arms warrior

[safe matrix]

Do you think that you're better than other people and are slightly toxic?

[prisma cypress]

that describes me to a T

[safe matrix]

Welcome aboard

But yeah sin is a slower spec, but very versatile

Pretty low skill entry too

[polar light]

@prisma cypress arms warrior all the way

[lone junco]

and it is way easier to stay alive as a rogue.

rogue all day.

[prisma cypress]

i like "slower" specs, i guess... i like feeling like each action is impactful instead of just spamming filler all the time

[lone junco]

impactful is arbitrary and i cant give that any consideration. But I dont die, and our warrior does.

you can mash mut as much as you want. so you can be 102cpm

[polar light]

Sounds like you have a dummy warrior

[prisma cypress]

why do you say arms warrior

or was that just a funny joke to make fun of the moron asking a rogue chat if he should play a rogue

[lone junco]

our warrior does great damage when he is alive. dies to footwork

we get cheat death and cloak and evasion and vanish.

[polar light]

They get Commanding shout heroic leap defensive stance and charge

@prisma cypress no, arms warrior is just really fun to play at Max with proper stats if you like big numbers

Rend is a bleed you get if you like to dot

[safe matrix]

I mean at end game right now there's like 3-5 viable sin rogue builds

So you have variety

[hoary copper]

Alacrity is king!

[gilded lark]

[hoary copper]

uh oh, Broadsides is here. Guard your loins

[void pecan]

MY LOINS!

[polar light]

His name does not fit his color.

[hoary copper]

He upgraded

[polar light]

Good one

[prime void]

^ I mean he did

❤ tisumi

[polar light]

Noop

[prime void]

tf is noop

[polar light]

Noop is noop

[safe matrix]

Tbh the true essence of being a pirate is living a life of sin

[prime void]

[vapid moth]

MUAHAHAHAHA

[polar light]

If you don't know then you're out of the loop

[dire spoke]

[prime void]

I'd rather be out of the loop than say some dumb shit like noop

[polar light]

That's okay.

👀

[prime void]

ignore it

get more crit

[lone junco]

oy. is that like 88% mut crit?

[polar light]

[lone junco]

fun fact. any time mastery is my high weights, and i swap all ench and gems into mastery from crit, it is a dps loss.

49.5 is prob just too low.

to maintain 100% ep

[prime void]

I've always said sin is ZZZZzzzzzz

[lone junco]

I dont blame you. tb is pretty flat without shoulders

[prime void]

I believe in you

I think our feral is mad at me, I quit the same day I got the mythic SSF

[warm parcel]

o 🤔

you raid in myst I just realized

[civic palm]

o_o

[prime void]

that took you awhile

[warm parcel]

😄

ok

I tend to forget stuff easily

no broccli

Join the mage lyfe

And beat toe

Thats why I noticed you

I was looking at the log 😄

Ye hes p insane gear

And double wrist proc in combusts

ye fuck him tbh

🤔

[chilly plume]

is 24 % crit and 190 % mastery good ?

[warm parcel]

those are numbers yes

[chilly plume]

crit isnt that low ?

[warm parcel]

depends

[chilly plume]

shoulders and wristds

[north basin]

i cant read action list from raidbots coz its complicated for me anyone can tell me cd management of toxicblade kingsbane and with vendetta with 3 vendetta relics?

[civic palm]

It's in the guide.

[chilly plume]

@gusty kestrel help me out 😛 how mutch crit should i get and mastery

[lone junco]

lots.

[prime void]

I feel general is a good place for that Don

[warm parcel]

offtopic pls

😠

we talk about mages here

[chilly plume]

you have Eye comand =?

[keen inlet]

throwback to 2 xmasses ago

and my original avatar

[warm parcel]

so assa 101

No theres no magic number for anything
Yes low crit feels like shit to play but might be better
If you want numbers not feels you ask raidbots

[chilly plume]

my simc doin 2.1

i got 969 ilvl

[civic palm]

Sounds normal.

[chilly plume]

i see ppl doing shit loads of dmg

[civic palm]

Okay...

[lone junco]

@chilly plume if you are actually doing within 5% of your simc for ST, then you are on the right track. If you are alive at the end of a fight and parsing grey, you are not.

[civic palm]

Most of the times when someone is doing SHIT LOADS OF DMG it's due to luck, or cheese.

[lone junco]

but raidbots stat weights, + pawn, will answer your qs.

[chilly plume]

i start making lofs few days ago

im doin g 95 / 99

[lone junco]

"shit loads" depends on a lot of stuff.

[chilly plume]

mythic 80 in some bosses

[lone junco]

post logs for roast.

[civic palm]

bahahaha

[chilly plume]

im not saying that im pro

[lone junco]

then prepare mentally for every mistake you made to be circled

[safe matrix]

^

[safe matrix]

Oh that's weird, it's opposite on my screen

[shrewd oriole]

Hello I have 32.8 crit and 194.4 mastery is that good

[keen inlet]

we must

go

deeper

[safe matrix]

No

[safe matrix]

Where's the frown don

[chilly plume]

i dont like deeper

[civic palm]

I DON'T CIRCLE

[safe matrix]

Also

Wait

Is that discord light????????

[shrewd oriole]

No

It’s discord far

[keen inlet]

no it's me being lazy with snipping tool

[shrewd oriole]

Fat

[chilly plume]

who knows tha wae

[civic palm]

Oh did your kid draw that?

It's very nice.

[placid egret]

Aww. That's cute.

[lone junco]

with free for snippy my creativity is limitless.

[shrewd oriole]

Hello

I’m 923 ilvl and have 300 rio score

Why no 1 take me)

???????

[lone junco]

cause bm is bad

next

[shrewd oriole]

DAE PUGS ARE EVIL

[civic palm]

I read saber as sober and was like...

UNLIKELY

[safe matrix]

Are you talking about the guy in sub

[shrewd oriole]

and general too

[wild bane]

Hello, what tier 20 pieces was I supposed to run for bleed build?

[safe matrix]

Shoulder hands I think

[prime void]

2 rings

[shrewd oriole]

He made sure to post the same dumb comment there too

[wild bane]

but arent the lege shoulders more worth it?

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

[safe matrix]

🤔

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

why you tryna run a build you dont understand

[drifting cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

stick to shoulders poison build

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

its easy, even tom can play it

[wild bane]

Because I am getting bored of playing poison build

[shrewd oriole]

[safe matrix]

Alright because they're all meming

[shrewd oriole]

[safe matrix]

Shoulders takes up a tier slot

So you can only run 5 pieces of tier

[prime void]

ie

[wild bane]

So bracers and boots as leges for poison build?

[prime void]

CANT WEAR 6p with a slot taken

[shrewd oriole]

No

[wild bane]

right, that was dumb of me.

[shrewd oriole]

We are talking bleed

Why you asking bleed and poison builds

Back to back

[honest pelican]

where does the seal of shadowblade ring rate? got it first leggo =/

[wild bane]

Im asking only bleed

[lone junco]

still good

[honest pelican]

lets me pickup deeper strat i guess

[placid egret]

@honest pelican not great but not bad either.

[shrewd oriole]

???????

[wild bane]

mb

mistyped

.

[prime void]

go look at logs

learn for yourself

[shrewd oriole]

Yes bracers and boots for bleed build

[prime void]

instead of expecting us to tell you

you'll learn more in the long run that way aswell

[lone junco]

bracer boot. 2p4p 45 crit+ 3vend. 🔪

[safe matrix]

😃 🔪

[prisma cypress]

what is the most pwn alliance race for a rogue? been playing a female human since vanilla

[prime void]

2.3?

That's; it ?

Horde is the best ally race.

[wild bane]

thanks noobe

[shrewd oriole]

Alliance

[prime void]

^

[lone junco]

@wild bane bleed is kinda rough to gear for. gl

[safe matrix]

There are sims on hero damage

[shrewd oriole]

[warm parcel]

not using tier head smh

[placid egret]

Smh

[warm parcel]

sexy relics tho

[shrewd oriole]

Pvp is harder than pve

[prisma cypress]

are boy void elfs or girl void elfs better

[polar light]

985 crit mast head...

Hmmm

You go poison

[prime void]

He is poison ?

thunking

[polar light]

It was sarcasm

What is he even asking

[lone junco]

@wild bane you want all this shit. +forgot the checks on bracerboot

[prime void]

He was responding to weak