assassination

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t leave the room

That is a dangerous situation

[hollow cove]

Okay, so, friend wants me to raid for him on Aggramar mythic for 45 mins or so

[frozen pecan]

Your girlfriend is supposed to make you food anyway

[shrewd oriole]

Order in

[faint vale]

Tsunami going ham

[hollow cove]

I've never really played rogue

[solid nova]

Not played Rogue

Agg mythic

GL

[spare cloud]

Just dont die

[hollow cove]

thanks

spam mutilate and pretend i'm lagging?

[spare cloud]

Korean advice

[solid nova]

Ive seen worse @hollow cove

[spare cloud]

Dont die and bring boss hp to 0

[hollow cove]

I can do that better on my DH and mage

[spare cloud]

Use cloak on first group soak

[limpid reef]

I’m not leaving the room. Told her to make me food and she just laughed and said i’ll pay for that later.. o.O

[spare cloud]

And feint on second

Use cloak before the cast is through

Else you get debuff

[shrewd oriole]

@limpid reef hope you’re into pegging

[spare cloud]

Rest is like any other melee

[hollow cove]

cool

[limpid reef]

OmgxD

[hollow cove]

so

[frozen pecan]

@limpid reef seems she isn'T well behaved you have to change that

[hollow cove]

is there any Assassination for Dummies guide available?

[spare cloud]

Pins

[solid nova]

Look up

[faint vale]

Assassination already is the dummy spec

[shrewd oriole]

[frozen pecan]

ban laleo pls

[shrewd oriole]

Have you tried snd outlaw?

[limpid reef]

@frozen pecan Haha i think she would kill me if i told her that xD

[spare cloud]

Probably grey logs

[faint vale]

Arent we passed this?

[solid nova]

@limpid reef You've definitely had the trousers taken away from you in that relationship

[shrewd oriole]

Assa is a dummy spec

[quick ice]

don't let rupture/garrote drop, use all CDs on CD and you'll at least not suck @hollow cove

[spare cloud]

Im not a rank one player but all the speccs are easy

[shrewd oriole]

Come @ me

[spare cloud]

I cant be bothered to learn

[hollow cove]

cool

[frozen pecan]

fuck you tom

[limpid reef]

Haha xD

[hollow cove]

the way this looks like, I can probably set up a weak aura with the entire rotation

more like what to press

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

[limpid reef]

I have no trousers..

[keen inlet]

@frozen pecan Be kind, it's 2k18

[shrewd oriole]

You can

[spare cloud]

Just use notters

[keen inlet]

The Year of the Kindness

[quick ice]

there's an addon - AethysRotation that already does that for you pmuch

[spare cloud]

If youre only gonna play for 46mins

[shrewd oriole]

2018

[marble hemlock]

its the year of the dog though

[hollow cove]

does it work with nightstalker

[shrewd oriole]

Year is kindness?

[marble hemlock]

not of kindness

[shrewd oriole]

Omelul

[frozen pecan]

sorry, didn't know 😦 @keen inlet

[quick ice]

dogs are kind!

[solid nova]

@quick ice Its 2k18, you'll offend someone even if you say nothing

Dw about it

[shrewd oriole]

@solid nova did you see the Ronaldo his or not

[keen inlet]

@hollow cove the addon automatically updates APL based on your talents etc

[shrewd oriole]

Goal*

[marble hemlock]

got bit by one when i was young, hated them ever since

[solid nova]

@shrewd oriole I said yes the first time fam

[shrewd oriole]

It was legit one of the best goals I’ve ever seen.

[frozen pecan]

fuck ronaldo

[shrewd oriole]

Ah aight

Wow wtf nefy

[hollow cove]

let's ask the real questions

[shrewd oriole]

Fuck You

[limpid reef]

Is it actually a good addon?xD

[hollow cove]

is it only for rogues

[frozen pecan]

dude rly?

[shrewd oriole]

Ronaldo is bae

[keen inlet]

@frozen pecan WHAT DID I JU--oh yeah fuck ronaldo fr

[spare cloud]

Dont bother witg rotation helpers

[keen inlet]

jk jk

[hollow cove]

yeah

just spam mutilate and rupture

[quick ice]

I don't know how well it works for non-rogues, but it should tell you how to play identically to simc apl

[keen inlet]

@spare cloud Don't speak ill of Aethys-kun's work

[spare cloud]

No

[quick ice]

in theory

[marble hemlock]

rotation helpers are nice to, you know, help with rotations. you shouldnt rely on them though

[spare cloud]

Im not speaking ill of it

[solid nova]

@hollow cove Basically, you're fucked.

[hollow cove]

Yeah, I know that

[limpid reef]

Hah

[quick ice]

if he had time to learn the rotation I'd not suggest it

[hollow cove]

friend is gonna be at work

[keen inlet]

I've played with AR for a while just to see. 95% of the time I agree with it

the other 5% I'm wrong

😉

[solid nova]

😂

[hollow cove]

his other two friends who play rogue are gonna be at work

[quick ice]

but since he's playing sin for 45min later today, its probably the best shot he's got

[spare cloud]

Ok

[solid nova]

I mean

[spare cloud]

Ill give it a try when im home

[solid nova]

You can get the basics down in 45ins

If you're not a space cadet

[hollow cove]

to be fair, I'm an Arcane player

[spare cloud]

Can you drop me a dl link in pm

[keen inlet]

one nice thing ar does is automatically suggest FOK when I'm in range. So it's got a built-in FOK rangefinder more or less

[hollow cove]

so I've had worse rotations to work with

nether tempest intensifies

[keen inlet]

sin's very straightforward. 90% opener, 10% rest of your priority

[frozen pecan]

fok rangefinder 😏

[marble hemlock]

everything that suggests more is nice

[keen inlet]

@frozen pecan idk what it is with WoW but the "range/distance" scale has always made 0 sense to me

[spare cloud]

Don can you drop me a link in pms im on phone

[keen inlet]

standing next to something
15 yards away

[quick ice]

@solid nova he'll be actually raiding for those 45min on a mythic boss though. I feel like learning to play sin on aggramar is a bad idea 😃

[keen inlet]

@spare cloud To Aethys Rotation?

[hollow cove]

90% opener, 10% get oneshot at some random shit so you don't have to let them know you're shit at rogue

[frozen pecan]

You have to feel it Jose

[spare cloud]

Y

[shrewd oriole]

[solid nova]

@quick ice It's extremely bad lol

Steam it please

I want to giggle at work

[marble hemlock]

cant get oneshot as a rogue

if you do, youre a shit rogue

thats the problem

[quick ice]

the circle will 1shot you, but yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Feels good man

[steep obsidian]

unless you can mitigate it to be less then double yoru health yes you can be 1 shot

[marble hemlock]

cloak of shadows does exist

[steep obsidian]

most things that hit that hard cant be cloaked off

[marble hemlock]

aoe on aggramar can

[steep obsidian]

if it hit that hard it normally for a reason 😛

yeh

if you immune on aggy do you still take your % of the soak? i guess you do

[quick ice]

only abilities that will 1shot you on aggramar (legit 1shot) are circle and foe breaker I'm pretty sure

you do

[steep obsidian]

not all mechs work that way

[marble hemlock]

yes

so if its aoe>rangesoak as the last 2

you can take meleesoak, cloak aoe and time it so its up for ranged soak aswell

which is 👌

[steep obsidian]

coo

[drifting cloud]

you can also cloak aoe when he does the 1st soak right after

[keen inlet]

@frozen pecan I've been playing/raiding since Vanilla and I still don't "feel" the range

I think at this point I'm beyond hope/learning

the scale just feels off to me

[limpid reef]

HahaxD

[shrewd oriole]

There’s a 8/10 hottie at the pool

[keen inlet]

@shrewd oriole slide in there

[shrewd oriole]

But she’s with her dad

[drifting cloud]

isnt it like 8am tom

[shrewd oriole]

[marble hemlock]

think the advice still stands

[keen inlet]

@shrewd oriole slide in there *and maintain eye contact with dad

[shrewd oriole]

@drifting cloud 10 bht the sun rises at 5

[limpid reef]

Slide in there in stealth

[keen inlet]

fixed

[marble hemlock]

maybe its not her dad, maybe its her sugardaddy?

either way, don is right, assert dominance

[shrewd oriole]

Ahahah that’s very alpha Jose

[keen inlet]

maybe he'll pay you to get with her while he watches

¯_(ツ)_/¯

some dudes into that

[limpid reef]

Some dads?

[marble hemlock]

go over, look the dude in the eyes for like 5seconds to make him uncomfortable, then turn around and hit on her in front of his eyes

[keen inlet]

I think it's a sugardaddy tbh

[quick ice]

didn't you hear the story of how don met mrs don?

[shrewd oriole]

Nah it’s a dad for sure

If it was a daddy they would’ve kissed

[marble hemlock]

no

[shrewd oriole]

Or been in the same bed

[marble hemlock]

how do you know they havent been?

[frozen pecan]

send pics plx

[marble hemlock]

what are you not telling us?

[frozen pecan]

of her dad

[limpid reef]

Pics or it didn’t happen

[solid nova]

Is she a legit 8/10

Or 8/10 because 3/4 of her body is under water?

[limpid reef]

0,8/10

[frozen pecan]

8/10 on toms scale*

[quick ice]

he said she's by the pool, not in the pool though?

[solid nova]

And to be honest mate

[marble hemlock]

probably 3/10 but tom adds 5 point for every female specimen by default

[solid nova]

If shes in the deep end

You'll have to swim over to her

[limpid reef]

She was by the pool tho

Not in it

She was in one of those bedchairthings

With her «daddy»

[solid nova]

Don't always read sin chat properly, it'll lower my IQ

[limpid reef]

I get that

[frozen pecan]

buy a air mattress float over to her and say "whad up, I'm tom, rank 7 rouge"

[keen inlet]

@quick ice lol that story is as silly as it is boring

[frozen pecan]

her dad's gonna be impressed aswell

[marble hemlock]

i mean

[solid nova]

Get your logs up on the ipad and just flip it over to her as you air mattress by

[marble hemlock]

what 8/10 girl is by the pool and has her dad around?

[frozen pecan]

even better

[solid nova]

@marble hemlock Valid point

[limpid reef]

Dude? How old is she?

[frozen pecan]

a young 8/10 girl

[keen inlet]

I met her right before tindr became a thing, so online dating was like, okcupid in my city, basically. I was the first guy she messaged and she was the last woman I interacted with--right before I was gonna quit because online dating was such a hassle

[limpid reef]

Nonono

HahaxD really?xD

[solid nova]

Thats two too many xDs

[limpid reef]

XD

[solid nova]

!

[limpid reef]

I know.. i didn’t read it before i posted..

[frozen pecan]

tom's not replying her dad probably ko'd him

[solid nova]

He's busy working his Portuguese magic

[quick ice]

it was kinda ok knowing him, he will be forever be that presence of "are we missing someone"

[marble hemlock]

he was probably staring too much, so the dad came over and asked "what are you doing staring at my son"

[solid nova]

I reckon he tries to compare himself to Ronaldo tbh

[keen inlet]

xD is kinda like lol

we know what you're really doing

Chuckle
Quietly
To
Myself
Or
Maybe
Silently
Smile```

CQTMOMSS

[marble hemlock]

which is why hes too ashamed to answer further questions

[limpid reef]

Is tom creepy? Should we back out of the chat before we are incriminated into something?

[keen inlet]

c qt moms hah nice

[marble hemlock]

shouldve just went over and said "hi, im tom, i can teach you about sin if you want"

[gaunt moat]

what girl are you talking about

[limpid reef]

Can he tho?

Toms girl

[quick ice]

@gaunt moat tom found a girl by the pool

[keen inlet]

Tom's peepin' an alleged 8/10 at the pool

[solid nova]

As long as he's not creepily staring at her from across the pool

[keen inlet]

who is with a daddy? sugardaddy?

we aren't sure

[frozen pecan]

who's with her dad lul

[keen inlet]

neither is tom

[marble hemlock]

he has been suspiciously absent for a while now

[solid nova]

Plot twist: Tom takes home the Dad.

[keen inlet]

the saga of how Tom got his black eye

[limpid reef]

We thinks she is either 3/10 or quite young cause her dad is there

[gaunt moat]

well he's 19

[marble hemlock]

im also still not convinced its her dad

[frozen pecan]

probably floating in the pool right now knocked out

[limpid reef]

True but that doesn’t help if she is underaged

[quick ice]

hopefully face up

[limpid reef]

Face down

[marble hemlock]

well

[limpid reef]

Don’t hope for happiness

[marble hemlock]

age of consent in brazil is 14

[solid nova]

It is?

[limpid reef]

Jeez guys?

[marble hemlock]

unless it changed since i was there like 10years ago

[frozen pecan]

lmao

[limpid reef]

Damn..

[solid nova]

Mate whatever you did in Brazil 10years ago

I dont need to know

[frozen pecan]

hahahaha

[marble hemlock]

can show you the slides if you want

[limpid reef]

No please do not include u

Us

Nonono

[gaunt moat]

i've dated a pretty young girl when i was like 21
but then i learned they're idiots.

[steep obsidian]

😐

[solid nova]

Younger as in...?

[limpid reef]

Haha me too xD

[marble hemlock]

was a schooltrip actually, exchange student thingy, and the first thing the brazilian students told us was the drinking age and age of consent, so yeah

[frozen pecan]

saved

[solid nova]

I never did the whole foreign exchange thing

Kinda wish i did

[gaunt moat]

i think she was 15

[limpid reef]

bro

[solid nova]

Was she Brazillian?

[limpid reef]

That illegal in my country xD

[gaunt moat]

russian

[marble hemlock]

they also said that the law doesnt really matter where we were, cause they were all from wealthy families, and if they caught us driving a car or drinking we should just mention the family-name and everything would be solved

[quick ice]

that is approaching uncomfortable age gap

ignoring legality

[gaunt moat]

but she was hot, so afaik it's fine if she's hot.

[marble hemlock]

its only uncomfortable now

like

6y difference

is weird when its 15v21

when its 40vs46? not so much

[frozen pecan]

is it still uncomfortable if you are 30 and date a 20 year old?

[limpid reef]

When its 18/12 very much so

[gaunt moat]

she dated like a 30 year old before me X_X

[quick ice]

see that's weird

[marble hemlock]

were you a step-up or did you look like 30 when you were 21?

[solid nova]

How long did this last Notter?

Im so curious 😂

[gaunt moat]

well she found another guy after 2 weeks so i guess i wasn't a step up, lol

[frozen pecan]

lol

[marble hemlock]

or she was a whore

[limpid reef]

HahahxD

[marble hemlock]

you know

[scarlet hawk]

Is it okay to 5cp rupture after exsang runs out, then just refresh at 6cp before the next exsang?

[limpid reef]

Is 21v16 more ok

?

[gaunt moat]

but then i met the love of my life, so it's fine heh
already 7.5 years :x

[marble hemlock]

yes

everythings okay as long as both are fine with it

[limpid reef]

Cool!

[marble hemlock]

who gives a fuck about what other people think

[limpid reef]

Really?

23v9 ?

I mean dude xD

[marble hemlock]

if the age of consent is 8

youre good to go

[limpid reef]

Ahh ok

[marble hemlock]

since it isnt anywhere

no

youre not okay

[gaunt moat]

i hear in sweden it's okay to marry children

[limpid reef]

My gf is 3 months younger than me so i’m good

Lol its not bro xD

[solid nova]

@echo estuary Someone said Sweden

[marble hemlock]

but seriously, as long as everythings fine according to the law, you shouldnt care about age difference if both partners are into each other

no

god no

[limpid reef]

Everything?

[solid nova]

Getting dumped at 21 by a 15 year old though

Rip

[steep obsidian]

this is weird

[marble hemlock]

even a penis?

[gaunt moat]

would you rather murder an ugly girl or hot girl?
you see, it's pretty easy.

[limpid reef]

Then she wouldn’t be hot tho. With a pepe

[solid nova]

What if the threat of murder made the ugly girl pretty?

[marble hemlock]

if you kill the ugly one, you can still sleep with the hot one. doesnt work the other way around... i hope

[limpid reef]

Paper bag?

[hollow cove]

what if

[gaunt moat]

@solid nova wasn't that bad... i had a date with current gf literally a day after.

[hollow cove]

what if you kill the hot one and then sleep with her

wait

that's necrophilia

[marble hemlock]

thats what i was alluding to

[gaunt moat]

wait, why are you assuming there are 2 girls

[hollow cove]

what if

[gaunt moat]

i just said, if you're gonna murder someone

[drifting cloud]

thats why youre supposed to kill them after

you dummie

[gaunt moat]

she might as well be hot

[solid nova]

Just duck tape the two girls together and go wild tbh

[shrewd oriole]

Mate

[hollow cove]

What if it's an ugly girl with two personalities

[limpid reef]

But after is no fun

[shrewd oriole]

Age of consent in Portugal is 14

[hollow cove]

and the second one is actually hot

[quick ice]

how did we get on to murder?

[hollow cove]

Okay, let me rephrase that

[gaunt moat]

@solid nova THERE ARE NO 2 GIRLS!!!

[limpid reef]

Guys? Is this getting a bit darkwebby?

[marble hemlock]

we were talking about hot girls and quickly came to murder somehow

[quick ice]

also, Tom - was it her dad? since you're back now

[solid nova]

@gaunt moat BUT I WANT TO TAPE THEM TOGETHER TO MAKE 1

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve hooked up with several 16 year old cuz when you’re drunk and at a club it is legit impossible to tell

[gaunt moat]

that's not how it works!!

[solid nova]

Dammit!

[hollow cove]

What if there's an ugly girl with two personalities and the second personality is like, really hot, like, the hottest person you've ever seen. Like, your soul mate

[marble hemlock]

personalities cant be hot

[hollow cove]

mate

mmmmmate

[keen inlet]

wow

backs away quickly af

[hollow cove]

My ex was a very shy girl and looked like an ugly crap

[gaunt moat]

it's not like if you tape together two 9 year old they become an 18 year old

[keen inlet]

drops 500m pole not touchin this

[hollow cove]

When she got her shit around, she was the hottest girl i've ever seen

[solid nova]

You dont sleep with people who have nice personalities

[marble hemlock]

yeah well

[solid nova]

You fuck the hot one

[marble hemlock]

nothing to do with personality

[hollow cove]

It's the whole smiling, looking up, non-gloomy thing

[gaunt moat]

what if you're blind though

[keen inlet]

meh

[solid nova]

I havent got time to listen to the nice personality if im out or whatever

[keen inlet]

personality has a big role in sexiness for me

[hollow cove]

exactly

[limpid reef]

Me too

[marble hemlock]

hotness =!= sexiness though

[keen inlet]

there are generally accepted "sexy" people that I can't stand

[solid nova]

I'm talking like 1 nighters

[keen inlet]

and wouldn't touch

[hollow cove]

It's the second thing I look into a girl, really

I'm sapiosexual

[keen inlet]

what's first

bobs?

bumz?

[hollow cove]

in all srsness, brains

[marble hemlock]

probably just that shes biologically female

[keen inlet]

o

[solid nova]

It's all about ass Jose

[limpid reef]

You mean people who are named bob? Or boobs?

[marble hemlock]

yes?

[hollow cove]

Like, you want to talk to your girl about something that excites you

[keen inlet]

I'd say personality > brains > the rest for me

because there are some brainy ppl that I can't f'n stand

[hollow cove]

The biggest turnoff would be "what's that"

[keen inlet]

with the right personality, you can teach her

[marble hemlock]

i mean obviously you want some sort of intellectual compatibility with a partner

[keen inlet]

👍

[quick ice]

or worse "ew, that thing sucks"?

[hollow cove]

mate, mmmate.

[solid nova]

I mean there has to be physical attraction

[marble hemlock]

but when you look at someone and think "wow, shes hot" thats not what youre concerned about at that point

[gaunt moat]

i'd say for me personality = looks > good at games

[keen inlet]

brains

what are those

[marble hemlock]

you just want to stick it in, without even knowing anything about her

[solid nova]

^

[keen inlet]

[solid nova]

THANK YOU.

[hollow cove]

I was into a girl who I liked for her goofy personality and bobs

One day we meet up and she's like

[limpid reef]

My first date with my gf we talked at a coffee place for 6 hours straight

[frozen pecan]

Honestly if I'm not attracted to her in the first place I'm not going to talk to her

[hollow cove]

Okay, worst case scenario, I want you to be a godfather

[gaunt moat]

what

[marble hemlock]

sexy, attractive, beautiful, cute, theyre all made up in your mind after you get to know the girl, "hot" however is really almost exclusively about sexual attraction at first glance

[acoustic yacht]

Which one is more accurate to sim? Raiderboy or askmrrobot?

[solid nova]

Raidbots

[hollow cove]

[gaunt moat]

why would she want you to be a godfather, that's just weird

[marble hemlock]

maybe she wants the coke?

[limpid reef]

Stupid sin questions messing up the cool conversations

[hollow cove]

she had sex with a random guy with a condom

[gaunt moat]

godfather-zoned??

[hollow cove]

i'm likee

you used a condom

why would you

what

[solid nova]

Theres a chance!

[hollow cove]

that's when I realized

[solid nova]

I've had one split once

[hollow cove]

I despise dumb chicks

[solid nova]

Didnt realise morning after pill costs so much

It was like £30 odd

[marble hemlock]

price isnt even the issue

atleast here in germany

[solid nova]

It is when i paid for it

[marble hemlock]

you actually have to get a prescription

[limpid reef]

Hahahah

[keen inlet]

don't need a script in USA

[marble hemlock]

imagine breaking the condom, youre panicking a bit

[hollow cove]

same in Greece

[solid nova]

She owes me £15 still

[marble hemlock]

and then

time is ticking

you gotta go to the doctor first

wait like an hour

find a pharmacy

etc.

[limpid reef]

In norway we just but it for like 50$

[gaunt moat]

in here you don't need prescription, but these pills are really not something you want to take regularly... they'll fuck your hormones.

[marble hemlock]

yeah

had that situation. on a sunday.

ive rarely been that nervous

[solid nova]

I went to Boots Pharmacy, walked her in and we sat there, got seen, 15mins later pill was popped and life went on

[hollow cove]

Richard, mate, you should be glad you don't owe her child support

[solid nova]

Didnt see her again after that

[limpid reef]

@solid nova dude. Guys pay for those accidents. Just how it is

[solid nova]

Only if its born

[marble hemlock]

ye

not really

if you dont want to have anything to do with it

[gaunt moat]

also the side affects of those pills can make girl feel really bad for a couple of days

[marble hemlock]

id rather pay to have the security of nothing coming up again in 9months

[hollow cove]

Even bigger bullet dodged

[solid nova]

I was 17 at the time

[limpid reef]

HahaxD

[marble hemlock]

then trust the dumb chick that she knows what to do and pay for it

[solid nova]

£30 was loads for me then 😂

[limpid reef]

I was 16 when i bought my first regretpill

[marble hemlock]

shouldve thought better about your "load" then :x

[solid nova]

Well you dont exactly expect it to split do you

[limpid reef]

HahaxD

Depends on your size

[marble hemlock]

ofc you dont, but its something youre concerned about for quite some time after again, i know i was

[keen inlet]

hmm

[solid nova]

Yeah for sure

[keen inlet]

I have questions
but there's no way to bring them up without literally getting into dick measuring contests

[limpid reef]

Go!

[marble hemlock]

we can just get it out fo the way first

[solid nova]

You have my curiosity

[marble hemlock]

then you can safely ask your question

[solid nova]

The floor is yours Jose

[limpid reef]

I have a rulet

Ruler

[keen inlet]

Let's just ask - how the hell are y'all breaking condoms

[jovial kite]

GUYS

YO

[marble hemlock]

could just be manufacturing issue

[jovial kite]

IT FINALLY HAPPENED

[solid nova]

^

[jovial kite]

19 WEEKS

[hollow cove]

Haven't broken one in my life

[jovial kite]

FINALLY NO HASTE GEAR

[hollow cove]

19 weeks of what

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/a3d2267150bca16240c846044332704e

[hollow cove]

lol

[solid nova]

I can safely tell you Jose, I do not have a horse cock

[jovial kite]

SHAME I WILL NEVER FUCKING USE IT

[marble hemlock]

nice

[hollow cove]

noice

[gaunt moat]

grats @jovial kite

[limpid reef]

Think of it as putting on i childs jacket if you are 2 meters high and beef

[keen inlet]

dem feets tho

[jovial kite]

dem feets ill never use

[keen inlet]

@limpid reef that's what magnums are for

[marble hemlock]

like

without going too far into it

[keen inlet]

you know they do come in diff sizes

and if you can't get her ready enough, there are you know, lube products

[solid nova]

@keen inlet https://www.durex.co.uk/en-gb/explore-sex/article/why-do-condoms-break

[limpid reef]

I know but when you aren’t prepared you get what you get and use it

[marble hemlock]

yeah well

[keen inlet]

like idk it's just never been an issue for me

[marble hemlock]

sometimes you dont want her to get ready enough

or she doesnt want to

all part of the game

[limpid reef]

LolxD ready enough isn’t the prob xD

[marble hemlock]

kind of is

[limpid reef]

Why?xD

[keen inlet]

"or she doesn't want to"

jfc

that is not "part of the game"

lmao

[marble hemlock]

of course it is

[keen inlet]

I want you

[limpid reef]

Sorry ariana

[keen inlet]

to re-read that

and think about it

for a few hours

[marble hemlock]

some women just like to feel a bit of pain

[limpid reef]

Dude

[dapper abyss]

this isnt right or Oo? looks kind of wrong https://puu.sh/zW4cK/ca80d1d8f7.png

[keen inlet]

okay havinjg a sado-masochistic side is not the same thing as literal rape

hahaha

hahahahahaha

[marble hemlock]

thats not what im talking about obviously

but ive met plenty of women who did like to feel like theyre getting abused a bit, cause it turned them on even more

[marble hemlock]

nothing wrong with it

[solid nova]

My last girlfriend was into choking and such

[keen inlet]

hahahahah

[solid nova]

I can relate

[marble hemlock]

i mean yeah

[keen inlet]

I know it's just

[marble hemlock]

taken out of context

[keen inlet]

the language you used

hahaha

[marble hemlock]

that does look pretty bad doesnt it 😄

[dire spoke]

@dapper abyss what should be wrong about that, if you copied the right string from herodamage you're gucci

[hollow cove]

masochists are a special breed

[marble hemlock]

anyway

to get to the point i was trying to make

[north basin]

guys exsang build with bracer+ boots simis 35k higher than my regular poison build. should i spec it without thinking or i miss something?

[shrewd oriole]

My last gf was into bdsm @solid nova

[dapper abyss]

i mean the numbers in the bottom part are they supposed to llook liek that? @dire spoke

[marble hemlock]

condom obviously breaks easier if everything isnt as lubed up as it usually is

[solid nova]

@shrewd oriole I'm down

[hollow cove]

tbh, a maso girl is quite fun

[marble hemlock]

^

[shrewd oriole]

Whips, choking

Belts

Cuffs

It was quite fun tho

[hollow cove]

throating

[dire spoke]

can you go #off-topic bois

[limpid reef]

No!

[keen inlet]

@subtle fablesatana#4110 You can't do that subspec without thinking 😃 It's more work

[solid nova]

In fairness

[marble hemlock]

was only a matter of time until someone came in here and felt uncomfortable

[shrewd oriole]

It got a bit weird every now and then cuz I wasn’t as into it as they were

[keen inlet]

or diff work rather

[hollow cove]

In all fairness, this is part of an assassination rotation

[shrewd oriole]

As she* was

But

[gaunt moat]

Reysatana 35k is almost nothing when you do 2+ million damage
if you like playing exsang, you can go for it.
poison is simpler

[keen inlet]

god I hate how tagging works on discord

[subtle fable]

why the fuck am i getting included in this

[shrewd oriole]

[keen inlet]

because discord tagging is terrible

[hollow cove]

because discord

[keen inlet]

and somebody has a longer version of your name

[hollow cove]

They gotta fix this at some point

[limpid reef]

I play exang

[keen inlet]

which, even including numbers

[jovial kite]

dony bully rey

[keen inlet]

it still goes for the shorter name

[limpid reef]

Exang is fun 😁

[hollow cove]

I highly doubt that

@north basin

see

[marble hemlock]

thats why you rightclick the dude and use the "mention" option

at least i do

[gaunt moat]

that's what i did

it still tagged rey

[shrewd oriole]

12 iq mods

[marble hemlock]

lul

okay

[limpid reef]

Right click on phone?

[shrewd oriole]

[keen inlet]

I did mention as well

[hollow cove]

type @proven paths, not @proven path

[keen inlet]

that's the thing

[marble hemlock]

no idea how phone works, i dont have a smartphone

[north basin]

i sim at 2.215k exsang and 2180k poison. the thing is., i know i can sometimes pull high numbers single target due poison luck. is it same for exsang or its more stable and less proc based?

[gaunt moat]

it's just a dumb bug

[hollow cove]

and press enter

[gaunt moat]

when you mention it doesn't actually use the internal userID

[keen inlet]

if you type that shit out and select the pop-up it obviously works, but half the time mention, which should 100% work, doesn't

[shrewd oriole]

Flip phone

Or burst

[dire spoke]

@dapper abyss https://snag.gy/uXhVwI.jpg that's mine

[solid nova]

Feel sorry for Rey with the tags 😦

[hollow cove]

you can have a flip smartphone

not one that works, though

[marble hemlock]

well

[limpid reef]

@north basin exang is more bursty and poison is more sub dps i thing

[marble hemlock]

the fun conversation is over

[north basin]

ye these tags doing wonders in discord lately. dunno what reason

[shrewd oriole]

@north basin poison def has a higher ceiling

Specially if you use shoulders bracers

[dapper abyss]

hm ok i thought this looks kind of wrong

[steep obsidian]

press random buttons get shoulder bombs still get good parse

it good spec

[shrewd oriole]

Rip fun convo

[north basin]

so tldr poison can sometimes do NUMBERS but bleed more skill based and more stable dps wise?

[jovial kite]

yes

my avg pull and top dps pull is around 400k apart

[north basin]

ok iam going to stay poison then.,

[steep obsidian]

i havent played xsang since like

en

maybe i should try it even though my gear blows for it

coz boredom

[limpid reef]

Exang is fun

And not as bad atm

Except if you are really min/maxing

Then poison is the shiz

[steep obsidian]

i need to actually get some weak auras though or id be boosted and overwrite my ns rupture 100%

[jovial kite]

no

[steep obsidian]

or something

[jovial kite]

if you're minmaxing exsang is better

it just doesnt have as high max potential as poison

[limpid reef]

Really?

[marble hemlock]

those two statements contradict each other, no?

[jovial kite]

no?

''good'' is judged by default by avg dps

thats why you sim shit

not max potential

[steep obsidian]

it makes sense if you want consistent damage and not to be tied into vanish cds as much

then i guess xsang better that way?

[marble hemlock]

oh you mean minmaxing as in the sense of minmaxing for average vs poison at max potential (as in rng) etc.

[shrewd oriole]

@jovial kite how much you simming these days?

[drifting cloud]

I even found a mfd log in top100 on vari

[limpid reef]

Both use vanish tho no?

[drifting cloud]

cant find any exsang

💩

[steep obsidian]

lol

[jovial kite]

2.35m at 971 ilvl

[shrewd oriole]

Ah same as me

Neat

[steep obsidian]

my jewelery doesnt have any crit on it

coz rng sucks

so xsang sim like shit

[marble hemlock]

got a recent sim? id love to take a look at it

[jovial kite]

except you have 3 ilvl more :p

[steep obsidian]

i have 7 ma though

[drifting cloud]

well you use t20 I guess

[gaunt moat]

exsang is harder to play... so 😶

[shrewd oriole]

I mean 3 ilvls more

[jovial kite]

960 t20

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz you have 2p

lol

[north basin]

i think going for max potential and try lucky pulls is the way to go for minmaxers

[drifting cloud]

cant really compare ilvl when you have a set bonus

[keen inlet]

harder
to play

[gaunt moat]

it is

[jovial kite]

ofc i can

the t20 can tf high

[shrewd oriole]

No you can’t

[steep obsidian]

i couldnt get 2p 4p to sim beter for me with any combo

[shrewd oriole]

If I was wearing t20

[keen inlet]

just memeing notter

[shrewd oriole]

I’d be 969

[steep obsidian]

my t20 is 930 so its not too bad

[jovial kite]

yeah and way less dps avg

[gaunt moat]

and really not worth the hassle imo

[jovial kite]

hence your argument is kinda moot

[keen inlet]

idk why ppl would ever want a 'harder' spec, unless it demonstrably and consistently put out bigger dps

[north basin]

one of my t20 peices 945 other one 930.

[keen inlet]

some people are difficulty fetishists tho /shrug

to each their ow

n

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet why do people play dark souls

Some people like hard

[gaunt moat]

if they enjoy it, that's fine.
i just wouldn't recommend it to new people as the way to go

[marble hemlock]

if it just "feels" like it plays better, id go for it

[keen inlet]

If you remove the hard factor

it's still a great game

[marble hemlock]

i like some more difficulty in my gameplay

[keen inlet]

that's why.

[steep obsidian]

people play outlaw and all it is guaranteed to give you is rsi 😛

[shrewd oriole]

Ashine refuses to play assa

[keen inlet]

You could make the game easy and it would still be "fun" and a well-designed game

(and funny)

[marble hemlock]

@jovial kite got a profile-link or smth? would love to have a look at it and see whether the gear i got is comparable to try it out

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t think dark souls would be as fu if it was easy personally

Same thing with dungeon crawlers like diablo or poe

[north basin]

hard and difficult rotation should net bigger dps increase in wow. sad its not something blizz considering while tuning

[shrewd oriole]

I have half as much fun playing soft core

As I have playing hardcore

The risk of dying and losing everything pumps up the dopamine levels so much

For me obviously

[marble hemlock]

and yet you didnt ask out pool-girl because her dad was around

[shrewd oriole]

Patient is key

[gaunt moat]

but he's right that dark souls would still be a good game without the difficulty.
to explain it better:
there are games that have artificial difficulty, that doesn't make them good

dark souls has lore, world, community... etc.

[keen inlet]

^

[gaunt moat]

the difficulty is one aspect, not the whole

[keen inlet]

ty bunny

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t think I’d enjoy it as much. Without difficulty

[keen inlet]

the difficulty makes for good memes, notoriety, etc

[shrewd oriole]

Sure it’d be a good game

[keen inlet]

Yeah but that's you

difficulty is a preference, it's not a feature

[shrewd oriole]

Of course

Hence why I said

That’s for me tho like 10 times

Lmao

[keen inlet]

why is saber back in RH

[lone junco]

@keen inlet difficulty fetish is lols. Especially if they don't beat the simpler variant.

[keen inlet]

Notter why did you let this happen

[shrewd oriole]

I, me, Tomas. Enjoy difficulty

[keen inlet]

You aren't tomas

you're Saber

[gaunt moat]

there are many difficult games you would never play, because they are bad games
it's very rare for people to like difficulty for difficulty's sake

[keen inlet]

says right in ur nick

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

Notter said I was as bad as saber

So 🤷

[lone junco]

Very good comparison.

[keen inlet]

http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.ro/2015/09/early-access-difficulty-fetishests-and.html

Excellent read btw

best thing I've read on the subject of difficulty "as a feature"

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat I agree but I enjoy a good game more if it’s difficult on top of being a good game

Kingdom hearts for example

[steep obsidian]

most people dont even finish the games they buy

[shrewd oriole]

I nearly broke a remote xaethron or whatever it’s called

[north basin]

yep didnt finished wow yet

[steep obsidian]

lol

[keen inlet]

There are lots of different ways you can get damaging feedback, but the Difficulty Fetishists are the ones you must fear the most. They are marked by three qualities:

1. They ALWAYS want the game to be harder, no matter how hard it already is.
2. They will be the loudest, most persistent givers of feedback. They will swarm forums, making them seem more numerous than they are.
3. They are mean and contemptuous to anyone who suggests, no matter how meekly, that the game is too hard to be fun. ("n00b!" "LRN 2 PLAY!" "GIT GUD!")

Now let us be very clear. Gamers who love really hard games ARE a valid audience. I have several such gamers as permanent members of my testing pool, and they are invaluable when I design the harder difficulty levels. However, they MUST be kept away from influencing the default difficulty level at all costs.

[gaunt moat]

yeah sure, i totally understand that preference.
having a challange is important

[lone junco]

Saber insanity was bulldogging outlaw superiority until the first day he tried sub then just ghosted outlaw.

[marble hemlock]

seems like a very biased way to look at feedback you feel is "not helpful"

[lone junco]

Carrot 🥕 is important.

[gaunt moat]

but in WoW, i don't think the challenge necessarily should come from playing your spec @shrewd oriole

[marble hemlock]

the only good thing in that excerpt is the last sentence imo

[keen inlet]

I mean

It's been my experience in the past decade+, Selia

[gaunt moat]

but then again, it shouldn't be just "press 1 button"

cause that's not engaging.

[keen inlet]

I see it on a regular basis here with the casual-bashing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

as discord = nu!forums

[marble hemlock]

somewhat, yes

i dont think however that they are the loudest of sub-groups in any given community

they are just perceived as such

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat I prefer simple specs and hard encounters

[marble hemlock]

because there's only one way, or according to jeff no way, to satisfy their demand, while most other subgroups can be engaged in a couple of different ways

[keen inlet]

well

[shrewd oriole]

The games I mentioned I really enjoyed have relatively simple conba

[keen inlet]

he's speaking particularly about Steam forums

which, idk if you linger in

[shrewd oriole]

But incredibly difficult encounters

[keen inlet]

that's a fairly accurate depiction

[shrewd oriole]

Like, dunno if you’ve ever played kingdom hearts

[marble hemlock]

not really, but ive seen plents of games get downvoted to hell because its "too hard"

[keen inlet]

and a reason I stopped hanging out in steam forums

[shrewd oriole]

But it’s really simple to do attacks and combos

[gaunt moat]

i think there is a certain "pride" of mastering a complex spec (subtlety for example).
and that's fine too. so i can get people wanting specs to be mroe complex.

[keen inlet]

@shrewd oriole You thought KH was incredibly hard?

[marble hemlock]

and when i played them it turned out that they just want everything handed to them on a silver platter, which is not an attitude i will ever support

[strange python]

I think people who argue in favor of difficulty tend to get unfairly placed in the Difficulty Fetishist bracket as a way to dismiss their argument

[keen inlet]

I thought it was too easy, if anything. But I don't care if stuff's easy

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet kh on max difficulty was incredibly hard for me

[keen inlet]

the only thing that ever gave me a challenge was Sephiroth

[shrewd oriole]

You only unlock nightmare after you beat the game on the previous hardest difficulty

[keen inlet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd oriole]

So only on the second play through

[keen inlet]

I'm aware

lol

[marble hemlock]

yeah connor, i agree with that

[keen inlet]

@strange python Sometimes

Not all the time.

[shrewd oriole]

Most shit becomes a one shot

[keen inlet]

But that's why you have multiple difficulty modes

etc

[shrewd oriole]

Obviously

What mode did you play it on?

[marble hemlock]

thats the thing though

[shrewd oriole]

I played it recently on normal with my at the time gf now ex and it was really easy

[keen inlet]

max, then nightmare 8)

[marble hemlock]

for every guy wanting the game to be harder

[keen inlet]

I loved KH and 2

[shrewd oriole]

Same

[marble hemlock]

there is someone who wants to be able to beat the hardest difficulty for the achievements or whatever

[shrewd oriole]

Amazing game

[marble hemlock]

and cant do it, and wants it to be easier

[shrewd oriole]

Maybe it wasn’t that hard and I’m bad or maybe it’s nostalgia

Think I played it when I was 12

[marble hemlock]

plenty of games have locked the achievements behind ironman mode, and gotten a lot of flak for it

[shrewd oriole]

At the time I played wow and adventure quest

[keen inlet]

@marble hemlock I don't think that's accurate. People who legitimately want those achievements don't want it to be easier. You'll get some outliers who want everything accessible, but that's a different argument

Let's take WoD for example.

They made the LFR tier look like garbage, and most ppl I encountered were okay with that

[gaunt moat]

there are still people advocating for difficulty modes in dark souls for example.
i don't agree with that.
i think it would dilute the experience.

Some people would say this opinion is "difficulty fetishist"

[marble hemlock]

the argument of "i want to play this game but i cant because its too hard" is not that far away though is it?

[spare cloud]

It is wednesday my dudes

[keen inlet]

they understood that mythic appearances, and normal appearances, were for people that could clear that content

[marble hemlock]

"i paid money for this game, so im entitled to experiencing all it has to offer"

[gaunt moat]

ughh

[keen inlet]

@gaunt moat I think it's harmless. If they want an easier mode, fine. What does it bother me? It doesn't.

[sharp viper]

first barbeque of the year about to happen, i am hyped

[marble hemlock]

thats the type of argument im talking about, and it creeps up very often

[spare cloud]

Dark souls is way easier if you coop it

[keen inlet]

I'm all for accessibility.

[spare cloud]

So you have a way to reduce the difficulty

[keen inlet]

When I post a roic log in here I know I'll get memed by mythic raiders. But idc. Heroic's my mode, my choice, etc

[zenith cloak]

Should I be pooling at all during my rotation?

[marble hemlock]

well, wow is a different type of beast entirely

[keen inlet]

@zenith cloak epends on your stats/gear tbh

[spare cloud]

But it also comes with a cost

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet don’t think most people meme heroic

Only like, people like nelbur

[strange python]

What am I looking at

[marble hemlock]

but from a game-design perspective, allocating more resources to creating more difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy the game, elitists and casuals alike, isnt something every dev can afford

[spare cloud]

Which is very much in the spirit of the game

[keen inlet]

🐟

[shrewd oriole]

Fishies

[keen inlet]

Tom

you're at the f'n beach

[zenith cloak]

Off memory I have 185% mast and like 32% crit with shoulders wrists

[shrewd oriole]

Had to move with max stealth

[keen inlet]

get off your phone

go live

[shrewd oriole]

Alright

Brb gonna go live

[keen inlet]

👌

[marble hemlock]

more often than not they are forced to create a default difficulty, and if that one is too high they risk economic damage

and that sucks

[manic vigil]

Dat clear water tho

I hate you Tom

[keen inlet]

There are also other methods of controlling difficulty

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

You pool when the situatuon requires it @zenith cloak

[marble hemlock]

hes probably in the lobby where they have a few aquariums put up

[gaunt moat]

@keen inlet cause i think having a challenge is important. and it's for their own good.
it might sounds asinine. but that's my belief.
asking to remove challenges is asking the developers to betray their creation.

i'm in the opinion games can be art.
and that developers have a vision when they make it.
it's not fair to tell someone to betray that vision because you're lazy.

[keen inlet]

For example, in Breath of the Wild, you are given a tremendous amount of control in-game over your difficulty

If something's too hard, avoid it.

Sneak. Eat food. Fly. Whatever.

[marble hemlock]

thats a AAA game though

[keen inlet]

damn right it is

botw is bae

[marble hemlock]

they can afford to implement difficulty scaling

[frozen pecan]

loved breath of the wild, really good Zelda

[marble hemlock]

what about games like ELEX

[keen inlet]

but it's not really scaling

it's just good design

[spare cloud]

I agree with notters perspective

[marble hemlock]

or indie titles

yeah, its quite accurate

[keen inlet]

@gaunt moat If the design is for something to be challenging in X way, then I agree with you. That's design.

[spare cloud]

Bloodborne with different difficulties wouldnt be bloodborne

[marble hemlock]

a lot of devs have to decide to forego the difficulty they planned for the game, because nowadays you will get more bad ratings if your game is too hard because people will refund and slam you on steam

[keen inlet]

But is the challenge for challenge's sake

[gaunt moat]

@keen inlet yeah obviously this is not the opinion for "all games"

[keen inlet]

or is it a part of "the experience"

is the crux

[zenith cloak]

So I shouldn’t necessarily pool energy before KB comes up? Cause I’ve been doing that for like every KB without Ven

[frozen pecan]

you can ofc to keep envenom buff up

[marble hemlock]

@keen inlet obviously you have both. but for people with the "i want everything on a silver platter" attitude it doesnt matter if its part of the experience or not

[spare cloud]

You also want to pool for tb

[frozen pecan]

pool before tb to get more envenoms in during tb

[gaunt moat]

it's like "getting over it" @keen inlet
most people would not play for more than 5 minutes
but having checkpoints would defeat the point

[spare cloud]

To get at least 2 envenoms into tb

[marble hemlock]

they just want what they want, and if they cant have it, theyll get upset

[gaunt moat]

or having characters not die in "Darkest dungeon"

[zenith cloak]

Is it more important to pool for tb or lb or both?

Kb*

[solid nova]

tb

[marble hemlock]

tb

[gaunt moat]

cause people are asking for those kind of things

[frozen pecan]

tb

you should be able to keep envenom up even without pooling

[keen inlet]

@gaunt moat Get Over It is an example where the difficulty is inherently part of the design

[marble hemlock]

kb you "just" need to keep up envenom 100% up during its duration, tb you want to get in as many envenoms as possible

[frozen pecan]

depends on gear ofc

[spare cloud]

Thats the case for many of these games

[zenith cloak]

And 2 envenoms for tb is like the minimum?

[keen inlet]

I think the difficulty in dark souls is more a part of the hype--I don't see it as necessary to the game for it to be good, as we discussed earlier

[frozen pecan]

you should aim for that ye

[gaunt moat]

hmm i think it does

like... if you wanna get really into it

people who "gave up" mid-way through playing dark souls

are basically "hollowed" they lost the will the continue

i really love that idea

[marble hemlock]

like, i dont want to sound elitist here, but why is it that whenever you ask someone about a "difficult" game nowadays, they always immediately jump to darksouls?

[strange python]

I think the difficulty of dark souls is really intricate to its charm. Bosses are overwhelming and makes you feel so out of this world, so to speak

[frozen pecan]

Because it's the most well known game for being difficult

[spare cloud]

The game is designed around the fact don

It is a huge part of the story

[gaunt moat]

and tbh it's not really that hard, cause you have many tools, so @marble hemlock is right...
like, you can summon people to help you.
but i guess that's besides the point heh

[marble hemlock]

im just baffled because a lto of the times you see people bash games for being too difficult you almost always see comments like "i like hard games, ive done ng+3 in darksouls, but this game take it too far"

like wat?

[spare cloud]

You can get invaded if you summon

Thats the tradeoff

[marble hemlock]

you can just run back to the boss

[strange python]

But at the same time the difficulty alienates a player base missing out from a game with great visuals and lore

[marble hemlock]

and try it again

and again

[zenith cloak]

Ok, another thing is in a hypothetical situation let’s say I have Kb on the target and it has 3 seconds left but my rupture is going to fall off in 3 seconds as well. Is it better to envenom one last time and let rupture fall off or should I just reapply rupture

[gaunt moat]

then there's another tradeoff that if you summon help, and get invaded, it's 2vs1 usually

[marble hemlock]

i mean yeah, the fights arent cakewalks, but whats so hard about that? you lose your souls, and time

[spare cloud]

Yeah but invader has monsters on his side

[gaunt moat]

hehe

we can go on forever

point is

[marble hemlock]

but its not all that different to quicksaving before a boss-fight and trying it 20 times

[solid nova]

@zenith cloak Let the rupture fall off and pray you crit on your next mut

[gaunt moat]

the difficulty is intricate to the game

[hollow cove]

okay, since i can't exit gam for addons

[spare cloud]

The game is difficult but not too difficult for people to not be able to beat it

[hollow cove]

stealth, garrote, mutilate, rupture

[spare cloud]

Its kinda like an introduction to more difficult games

[hollow cove]

theen vendetta, mutilate vanish, toxic and kingsbane

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[spare cloud]

Which is why i think its mentioned so much

When you talk about difficult games

[hollow cove]

refresh garrote, mutilate and spam mutilate envenom while keeping rupture up?

[solid nova]

@zenith cloak If you've got the energy though you could fit an envenom, mut and rupture in that window nearly. So downtime would be minimal on Rutpure for that extra KB envenom.

[marble hemlock]

darksouls at its core is just about learning the core-game mechanics and fighting monsters that can kill you quickly, unless you learn to read their tells and dodge everything with a huge-ass i-frame dodgeroll

which, obviously, isnt easy and takes practice

[crimson knoll]

Vanish > envenom/rupture, depending on legendaries

[hollow cove]

shoulders wrists

[spare cloud]

Its something you practice for

[hollow cove]

nightstalker

well yeah, you'd vanish for the extra damage

[spare cloud]

But its not an insanely difficult platformer

[frozen pecan]

@hollow cove don't mut after vendetta just tb, kb

[spare cloud]

But then again you can learn those things as well

[hollow cove]

but i was talking about vendetta->mutilate for combo and vanish->toxic?

[strange python]

A 3 second remaining kingsbane will tick twice, right? It ticks every 2 seconds?

[spare cloud]

Its all rinse and repeat anyways

[strange python]

At 2 and at 0

[spare cloud]

Every game is

[hollow cove]

gimme an example of an opener

[marble hemlock]

yes

[spare cloud]

If youre trying to get good

[gaunt moat]

the real difficult game is Verminitide 2... but @marble hemlock never invites me 😭

[spare cloud]

Everything in life is rinse and repeat 🤷

[keen inlet]

the real difficult game

[frozen pecan]

@hollow cove garrote > mut > rupture > vendetta > tb > kb > vanish > env....

[marble hemlock]

havent really been playing much these past two weeks

[keen inlet]

is World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth Alpha

no addons

broken classes

[gaunt moat]

HOLES

[keen inlet]

unimplemented stuff

HOLES

[marble hemlock]

last really difficult game i played combat-wise was age of decadence :/

[spare cloud]

The real difficult game

Is

Lfr

[marble hemlock]

reallife`

[solid nova]

@hollow cove Standard opener

[keen inlet]

tbh if you can clear a dungeon on alpha you're better than any mythic raider rn

don't @ me

[hollow cove]

aha

[solid nova]

With mantle

[hollow cove]

lemme try that

[gaunt moat]

haven't done any dungeons yet :x

[keen inlet]

They're not bad

memes aside

they're just

so much trash

espeically THE MOTHERLODE

it's like 30mins of trash

5mins of bossfights

[marble hemlock]

havent doen any bfa stuff yet, was waiting for azerite to come

i promptly got disappointed tonight

[keen inlet]

but

Tol'dragor is a rogue's playground

[marble hemlock]

so i guess now is a good a time as any to start on the road of disappointment

[keen inlet]

you can manipulate trashpulls with Pick Lock

and tbh the final boss in there is one of my favs

[hollow cove]

any way you can reset cds and combo points in order hall

[spare cloud]

Road of disappointment sounds like a name for a dark souls map.

[marble hemlock]

can queue up for arena skirmish

[solid nova]

Join a skirmish,