#assassination

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shrewd oriole
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Rip

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What did you get on rogue tho?

safe matrix
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I have a 960 of that

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yeah its pretty meh even for sub

dire spoke
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azerite armor is on alpha

shrewd oriole
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That ring is good for bleedy boios

safe matrix
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the sin one is alright

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double poison hit on mut

dire spoke
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While sprinting, every yard reduces the cooldown on blind by 1s

shrewd oriole
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860 arcano

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Easy

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@dire spoke are you a blizzard designer

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😃

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Oh shot

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Got a decent item on my hunter

dire spoke
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pingu hello Indie dev btw

shrewd oriole
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Gl

safe matrix
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thats pretty shit right

dire spoke
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@gusty kestrel is there a list of armor modifiers?

safe matrix
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or is it actually okay as an aoe trinket

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I can never remember

dire spoke
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azerite

shrewd oriole
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Lemme check what the rogue got

dire spoke
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Oh k

shrewd oriole
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Just the usual I guess

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Just what I needed

civic palm
shrewd oriole
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That gif paused my music

gaunt moat
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does this stop your music?

shrewd oriole
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What

gaunt moat
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guess not

shrewd oriole
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What did you do lol

safe matrix
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should be different color though

zealous dew
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put big stars on the right

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like 400px each

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to cover the screen more

shrewd oriole
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@gusty kestrel at least your look ain’t this bad

civic palm
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👏

shrewd oriole
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I’d kms

steep obsidian
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thats a feelsbad

shrewd oriole
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Another week another round of disappointment

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At least hunter was good

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If I get bracers that 2p is actually so good

round harbor
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Anyone here have 20k mastery

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I'm getting close and just curious

shrewd oriole
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I do if I wear tier gloves instead of pants

zealous dew
dire spoke
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Do all specs get an execute now or what

shrewd oriole
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It is a small dps loss tho

safe matrix
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gutripper?

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i mean its passive

dire spoke
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yeah

safe matrix
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but when I saw that

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"Gutripper (New) Your damaging abilities have a chance to deal 0 Physical damage to the target. Gutripper occurs much more often against targets below 30% health."

shrewd oriole
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Whose is that

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Sub?

shrewd oriole
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So all specs get execute hm

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Dk Rez costs runic power

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And thus a dk never rezzed again

dire spoke
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nice

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a trinket on rog

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straight to the garbo

safe matrix
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yep

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enjoy it while you can before BfA takes it away ._.

shrewd oriole
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Lul

steep obsidian
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whats so wrong with bfa sub?

shrewd oriole
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What’s wrong with sub*

safe matrix
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ye I'm giving tisumi the run down

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its pretty

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yikes

steep obsidian
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😛

shrewd oriole
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It has all the problems it currently does

steep obsidian
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i havent spent much time on alpha yet and espec not as sub

shrewd oriole
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But without gloves shoulders and cloak

steep obsidian
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tbh i liked hfc sub :\

shrewd oriole
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Wod sub was bae

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Pinnacle of spec design

safe matrix
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But yeah at this point sub is terrible
-loss of goremaws/ES so the spec is energy starved
-scombo nerfed by half and cloak/DfA are in the same talent tier so AoE is heavily nerfed, dark shadow nerfed too
-no cd reduction on SoD so its out of phase with DfA
-no mantle/gutripper so crit has to be really itemized

literally only 3 buffs
-SBlades causes your SS/BS to be shadow damage
-shadow dance is +1 sec ( but you dont have the energy to do anything)
-mfd is moved to DS/vigor tier in talent tree

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I've gone over the notes

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its pretty bad

dire spoke
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you can have mdf and dfa now

shrewd oriole
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Yeah

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The two worst talents

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Playstyle wise

steep obsidian
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i played outlaw a little and it seemd shit and sin seems almost the same

shrewd oriole
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You can have them both now wohoo

steep obsidian
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i guess ill spend some time on sub

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if i cbf

shrewd oriole
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Idk

safe matrix
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I mean come BfA sub is rip

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well probably not

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but its current iteration will be

shrewd oriole
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Too early to tell

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But yeah

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It’s not a question of numbers

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Rn sub just doesn’t feel great

steep obsidian
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well the azerite stuff they put in this build seems very placeholdery

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losing a lot of active stuff for passive things feels bad i guess

civic palm
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Yeah feels very PH.

shrewd oriole
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You telling me you don’t wanna shuriken toss on st?

civic palm
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Same for just about everyone, feels like they're just getting something in game.

shrewd oriole
civic palm
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👌

safe matrix
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oh boy

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I know have a ranged shadowstrike

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for when shadowstrike is on cd

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wait

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🤔

civic palm
safe matrix
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combo points up the middle column

civic palm
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Yeah I was thinking the same.

safe matrix
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or to the right

shrewd oriole
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Anyways

civic palm
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Lemme seeeee.

shrewd oriole
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Imma go get some more sleep

civic palm
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Nite

shrewd oriole
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Cya

sharp viper
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dead chat

shrewd night
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Tom going to bed at 10am

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whats this

solid nova
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He's still in Brazil afaik

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Its like 5am

shrewd night
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although I guess its better than what I did

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Totes slept one hour

solid nova
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I went with the intention of 8

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Got distracted with youtube and had 5

shrewd night
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I went with the intention of getting at least six, then an old friend I havent talked to in forever logged in

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Whoops 7am

solid nova
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7am is my alarm fam

shrewd night
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7:45 is mine

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Because living close to work is 👌

solid nova
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It;ll be 630 when i move house

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Im gonna feel it

shrewd night
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u ded fam

solid nova
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Perma grumpy

civic palm
solid nova
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@gusty kestrel What did you finish watching?

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Ooo

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Yes much better

civic palm
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That power meter is legit though > _>

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I really very much like it.

safe matrix
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I never like reading vertical designs

civic palm
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Yeah.

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Was just a whim thing, as usual.

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I've a lot of boxed or that recent wide WA.

shrewd night
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Careful so notter doesnt see

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I dont know if anyone likes Competition-Bunny

solid nova
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I heard its pretty decent?

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Not seen it myself yet

shrewd night
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Id like to think that you can stop after season 2

solid nova
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Once you start you gotta commit really

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I'm fresh out of series atm so might give it a watch when i get home tonight

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Another one i haven't seen 😅

rose sapphire
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is 29% crit fine on a Assa Rogue?

I got eoc eq so its 34% ish with the eoc procs

safe matrix
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it was good for a while

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but then it became too much about the drama and not enough about the law

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it lost its uniqueness

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it went from being "House" quality to later "Bones" quality

solid nova
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Now House was something I binged watched my life to

shrewd night
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^ good explanation of The last season on netflix

safe matrix
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I mean early Bones was fine

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but then after a bit became complete garbo

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you know what show was actually lowkey so good?

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Desperate housewives

shrewd night
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The entire season was a heap of I cant do the thing, but Ill do the thing anyways because reasons. AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA ACCEPT IT.

patent leaf
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Nice to see that the assassination discord is so active.... oh...

shrewd night
quick ice
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Dead class

brisk forge
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Not about assa tho 😂

safe matrix
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🤔

shrewd night
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Lets be on topic in a chat with 12k people in it 24/7

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Oh wait

solid nova
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If you have an assassination question fire away

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If not

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I'm still salty about how Dexter ended

safe matrix
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12k people in this dicord but I only ever see the same 20 people in chat

solid nova
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^

shrewd night
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They scared of you Liavre

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No other reason

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They talk alot when you arent here

brisk forge
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Scared of that blue color

safe matrix
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cause EU hours

shrewd night
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See, if you blend in

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by going green

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they all come out of the woodwork

safe matrix
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look at my tags

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dummy

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baka

shrewd night
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Still blue

safe matrix
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I'm teal

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okay

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a nice turqoise

quick ice
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It's a very blue teal

brisk forge
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Kinda blueish

safe matrix
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also @gusty kestrel isnt she getting married to prince harry?

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ye but I have both poison and sub tags

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I thought I was gonna get outlul ._.

shrewd night
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@gusty kestrel whats your relation ship to this bird?

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Do you know he is a domestic outlaw?

solid nova
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Yeah she is

safe matrix
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im sorry, am I cawsing you trouble?

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I didnt mean to ruffle any feathers

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I'm talon you that I'm really just winging it

shrewd night
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ok dad

solid nova
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Please no Dad jokes

shrewd night
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The bird

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The yellow one

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The bird is D E N I E D

safe matrix
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FeelsBirdMan

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harry is good looking though

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i think

shrewd night
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Why marry meghan when you coulda married donna

safe matrix
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also "The Crown" is a good show too

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now that I think of it

brisk forge
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Ppl are pushing it to fast 😱

shrewd night
brisk forge
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Yea it is, wed is the best day to pug as EU 👍🏻

shrewd night
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Wew

rose sapphire
safe matrix
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yeap

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sims>feelcraft

zealous dew
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crit 100 ftw

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4cp every muti

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the dream

shrewd night
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Only five hours until I can go home and get disappointed across four chars LUL

jovial cedar
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😄

brisk forge
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Already been disapointed with 2/2....

shrewd night
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Swear to god

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Ill log the DH I geared yesterday

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And Ill get fucking 985 eoc

jovial cedar
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xD

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gj

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if you do

shrewd night
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Ill delete the char if I do

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how bo' dat

brisk forge
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Do it!

dire spoke
civic palm
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:3

safe matrix
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so he's the best out of like the 5 people who play the spec

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🤷

faint vale
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You shoul compare his logs to other specs

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He is competitive

dire spoke
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@gusty kestrel I got 322 now 😄

random shuttle
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How do you do fellow sin rogues.

brisk forge
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Shit

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XD

faint vale
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Pretty sure it wad #1 when he got it

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Prob like 3 l&l procs during execute trueshot and nearly 100% crit on aimed shots

safe matrix
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I think the best log I've seen was

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where you have 3 "100" parses

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then a bunch of greys

zealous dew
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22% pb

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nice

safe matrix
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I mean on AHC does more cause AoE

random shuttle
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They also ran 3 tanks

safe matrix
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the fury warrior got 100 with an 84% uptime

civic palm
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E X E C U T E

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HA

safe matrix
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but I can't tell if it was an almost wipe

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or a carry

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but they prob just decided to cheese the fight

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still impressive though basically 3 manning that fight

random shuttle
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Nah, they were just efficiently selling a run.

safe matrix
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everybody died

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the deaths tab

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so they managed to recover that attempt

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although they didnt take it very seriously cause joke played outlaw, and iirc he's actually a really good sin/sub player

random shuttle
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They were running 3 tanks so I guess that helped them recover?

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But yeah definitely just a silly run.

safe matrix
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they probably memed the fight

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cause this guy

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played outlul

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"Best Perf. Avg
100.0"

random shuttle
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Lol, I guess he just never switched his gear around or so?

safe matrix
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nah he was just dicking around in outlul apparently

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oh right I'm talking to someone who plays outlaw, I so rarely do

random shuttle
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I actually looked. Seemed like he changes some stuff. He still had 13k crit though. Lol

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Rofl

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I laughed at your second comment there, but yeah I throw some time in sub. I normally play Outlaw though. Still a funny log overall.

safe matrix
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like every once in a while i might do an alt run as outlaw for shits and giggles

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but never seriously

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anyways I need sleep

supple mesa
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I feel that had a pull on aggromar lsdt week where i had 3.7% pb to end the fight

safe matrix
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Well I'm supposed to be sleeping

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🤷

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Have you ever heard of sleep walking? This is kinda like that

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Also because spending time with you all is like a dream

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😃

brisk forge
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Pity...

wise frigate
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You don't have to lie to us.

dire spoke
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so I just spent my last money on food for another week or so

frozen pecan
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poor zempai broke af

lone dirge
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how much crit would you say assas need?

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im at 34% and 206% mastery and it still sims almost equal

solid nova
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Sims almost equal to what?

lone dirge
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crit and mastery

solid nova
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You mean your stat weights?

lone dirge
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yes

solid nova
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What gear are you running with? Legendaries?

lone dirge
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im 971 with shoulers/wrist

solid nova
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I'm 40-200 atm and crit is sitting above mastery

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Nothing unusual about crit being so high

lone dirge
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crit sims higher for you?

solid nova
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Crit was my highest at one point

lone dirge
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ah okey but is there any '' recomended '' cap

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causei find nothing

solid nova
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Nah mate

brisk forge
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Why do you keep having that much then

solid nova
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Just follow the stat weights

lone dirge
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alright

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ty

lethal heart
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excellent weeklies on 3 characters PepeHands

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i even managed to get hattrick of seats aswell

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unheard of actually lol

frozen pecan
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that crit question comes up every day recently smh lol

solid nova
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Yeah

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I'm even pretty sure in the guides it says theres no caps

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🤷

lethal heart
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just go with w/e simcraft tells you

zealous dew
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new to rogue btw, how much intellect do i need ?

lethal heart
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or raidbots nowadays actually

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monkaS

solid nova
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If Crit is your highest stat weight then roll with that

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Unless you're like 900 ilvl

lethal heart
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i mean dont get out of your way

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if crit suddenly starts to sim 1 point higher than mastery

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to change all your gems/encahnts

solid nova
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Yeah exactly

lethal heart
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that's stupid

solid nova
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You need to use some common sense

lethal heart
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just deal with it

dire spoke
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just go with w/e simcraft tells you is not 100% correct tbh

lethal heart
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obv isnt

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use some common sense aswell

solid nova
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Crits like 49 for me and mastery at 50.5

lethal heart
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but well when it comes to stat priorities with rogue

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i mean

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why shouldnt you really

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go with what sims tell you?

dire spoke
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you can have heavy crit gear sitting on your bank and with some gear/build changes there could be more output than sim could tell you in the first place

zealous dew
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just go with your heart

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if it says, go date that chick, you just go

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nothing else matters

lethal heart
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i'm not talking about going to something drastic and 'fixing' your crit is usually one item

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probably changing 960 versa/mastery ring to a 960 crit/mastery ring gives you like ~3ish % of crit

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and thats gonna swing a lot in sim already

dire spoke
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but I believe that's where these question is coming from most of the part

strange python
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What if my heart says go on discord and ask if theres a crit cap

zealous dew
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then you read the pins and you find out there's none, you can move on with your life

lethal heart
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people are just too obsessed about any caps in the game

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and there is literally

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close to 0 of them

quick ice
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same as breakpoints tbh

lethal heart
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hpala/icemage

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i can think of

zealous dew
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icemage 😄

dire spoke
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them casuals see logs with alac or non-guide builds/comps and wonder, check back their gear and ask if there is something about crit 🤷🏻

lethal heart
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oh yea its frost

solid nova
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People are obsessed with 35% crit and 200% mastery

lethal heart
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lul

zealous dew
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ice ice baby

lethal heart
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dude it's always different in different games

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its fucking cold/ice/frost

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same shit to me xd

zealous dew
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no i mean

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1111111111111111111111111112111111111111111111111111112222222221111111111111111111

lethal heart
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but iwas thinking about ice lance though

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because their crit thingie

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is connected to ice lance

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isnt it?

zealous dew
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yep

solid nova
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Yeah it is

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I did the mage tower for my gf as frost

zealous dew
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33.34% i believe

lethal heart
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number 2 in rotation i think

solid nova
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Was so much fun

lethal heart
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LUL

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actually i remember in tos monk used to have somewhat of crit soft cap

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because you had +65% crit on rsk from tier set

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so getting 35% was nice, since you could always get unlucky

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and you kind of were banking you get it because rsk crit would reduce cd on fof

solid nova
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She's got ice lance bound to mouse wheel down

lethal heart
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😄

solid nova
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On the opener just going ham on the wheel

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I had a blast

quick ice
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we had people going nuts over 44% crit during EN/ToV tbh

lethal heart
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ok time to peace out and actually do something in real life

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👋

solid nova
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Laters fam

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I played my warrior in EN/ToV 😉

frozen pecan
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hey guys, is 25% crit too low?

solid nova
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Got like 350 odd days on my warrior, cant stand it anymore

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Just puts me to sleep

frozen pecan
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should I enchant crit

solid nova
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You can gem crit

frozen pecan
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whats the difference

solid nova
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I prefer intellect enchants for 200IQ plays

frozen pecan
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should I replace my 200 agi gem with 200 crit?

solid nova
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Yes

frozen pecan
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rly

quick ice
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I'm pretty sure 200haste gems are an upgrade for some of us now (to agi)

brisk forge
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I've enchanted all of my gear to crit, Cba to have 27 % 😱

quick ice
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I've been playing with 24.5 for like 3 weeks now

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its kinda ew

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but I make it work

brisk forge
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Yeah really unsmooth playstyle

frozen pecan
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I have 25 it is pretty shit but ye

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no crit on my rings 🤷

solid nova
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Haste and agility stat weight wise are less than 1.5 apart for me 😂

shrewd oriole
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Morning

solid nova
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Mate you've been asleep like 5 hours

shrewd oriole
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Yeah

solid nova
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?????

shrewd oriole
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That’s enough

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Nah

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It’s pool time

solid nova
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My week 🙃

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😦

rose sapphire
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Can you always trust sims?

dire spoke
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we have 20+ deg this weekend GachiGasm

shrewd oriole
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In some things

brisk forge
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Wtf

dire spoke
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playing with open window GachiGasm

brisk forge
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Like 3 here...

shrewd oriole
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Sims tell me boots sim higher than bracers

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But I’ve never actually played shoulders boots OMEGALUL

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@solid nova did you call

solid nova
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I hope you burn white boy

strange python
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Same

shrewd oriole
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Ahahahaha

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Can’t hear you sorry

wise frigate
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What is that in real units?

shrewd oriole
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The connection is p bad in my private beach

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What are the legendary boots called

wise frigate
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Thraxxi's Tricksy Void Storage Slot.

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Or Shadow Satyr's Walk Right Into My Void Storage.

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Ah so basically what it's like here too.

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Been a mild spring for us. Used to it being in the 90s by now.

shrewd oriole
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Yeah just ran it through the sims

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Boots sim .4% better

wise frigate
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Yeah like 95+ it gets a wee bit unbearable to be outside. Humidity can lick my ass.

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Lizard man.

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I love it cold.

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Which makes no sense since I live in Florida, but still.

quick ice
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that sounds nice.

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my burn time is <15min

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and that's on an overcast day

wise frigate
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^

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I swear one of my recent ancestors fucked a vampire. Only way to explain it.

strange python
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You said bracers dont have all the value in reality in sims? What do you mean?

wise frigate
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Also my family has extensive skin cancer problems so I'm just like "THE SUN BURNNNNNS"

solid nova
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Get yourself a moisturiser with a slow in built tan

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You might smell like a cookie every so often

frozen pecan
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I got sunburnt while skiing a few days ago, says it all... lul

solid nova
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But it'll work 😄

strange python
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Hate to interrupt this enthralling discussion

solid nova
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What wisdom are you wanting to share?

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Tru tho 😄

shrewd oriole
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AHAHAHA

wise frigate
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I've definitely been sunburned while skiing. That reflected sun can be gnarly.

quick ice
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smelling like a cookie sounds good

frozen pecan
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can't wait for summer tho, after a few sunburns Im gucci

solid nova
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I reckon i'll spend Summer in Croatia

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Get some tan on

dire spoke
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aethys not up yet peepocomfy

shrewd oriole
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Who’s aethys

dire spoke
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ha

shrewd oriole
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What

frozen pecan
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gonna go to Italy, the rest of the summer I'll spend at lakes at home in Austria 😃

vestal wren
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sub has the best dps curve

dire spoke
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@vestal wren 👋🏻 I showed up

shrewd oriole
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Uh never noticed that

dire spoke
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maybe I can help on the report tho

vestal wren
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nice 👍

brazen hemlock
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Hello my dudes and dudesses, a quick question, for general raiding, is Cinydaria better then Insignia of Ravenholdt or reverse?

frozen pecan
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sim it

quick ice
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I'd pick ravenholdt ring because 100-90% is rarely the hard part of a boss

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alternately what nefy said

frozen pecan
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it does

dire spoke
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you can cheese lots of damage with it but be 0 helpful on the raid

sharp viper
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100-90% is also the part where most people burst so it will pass faster and give you a shorter window where the legnedary effect can take hold

dire spoke
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switch to add spawns

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lmao

vestal wren
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cheesing damage for logs :feelsgreatman:

shrewd oriole
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Cini in avatar

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Was actually p good

frozen pecan
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I mean what else is there to do now lul

shrewd oriole
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Have you been to the recruitment channel

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Plenty of 3 day guilds progressing coven and aggramar

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OMEGALUL can join one of those

sharp viper
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cheeseing dmg on the first maiden shield with cini LUL

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execution bracers were far superior tho, p2 is the actually scary part

shrewd oriole
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Are we at like week 30

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20*

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Of the raid?

quick ice
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17 I believe

steep obsidian
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id say if you aint done with aggy even as a 3 day guild at this point you kinda really suck :\

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and must have struggled hard

quick ice
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given I have 6 pantheon's blessings in my bags now

shrewd oriole
#

That means people are progressing less than half a boss per week

frozen pecan
#

90% murica guilds in the recruitment channel lul

steep obsidian
#

😦

shrewd oriole
#

Idk man

#

Even argus by now is like world 600

#

But yeah not nearly as bad as not having killed aggy

steep obsidian
#

yeh but so many guilds just give up instead or progging

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz every boss before aggy is easy as shit

steep obsidian
#

i wonder how many fell apart after one argus kill too

shrewd oriole
#

Does it matter

#

Content is done

quick ice
#

hardest boss for my guild has been attendance boss 😦

shrewd oriole
#

I’d quit after argus if I could

steep obsidian
#

i dont mind farming if its not too painful

quick ice
#

closely followed by australian internet boss

steep obsidian
#

reprogressing is shit though

frozen pecan
#

Most of the people are casual and they don't care

steep obsidian
#

wiping coz people want to parse is also shit

shrewd oriole
#

If you’re raiding 12 hours a week

#

You’re not casual

steep obsidian
#

yeh

sharp viper
#

there are 561 guilds who killed argus mythic if i read wowprogress correctly

shrewd oriole
#

Heck

quick ice
#

yep

shrewd oriole
#

If you’re raiding 9 hours a week

#

You’re not casual

sharp viper
#

if you're playing wow, you're not casual

shrewd oriole
#

You’re not wrong

drifting cloud
#

keep in mind if youre rank 500+ youre used to bosses being nerfed by the time you get CE

frozen pecan
#

Bunch of guilds only raid hc and still raid 9 hours a week lul

drifting cloud
#

even 300+ probably

shrewd oriole
#

That’s true

#

I hope argus doesn’t get nerfed

sharp viper
#

i think only 2xx guilds killed argus before the change to chains

brisk forge
#

But parse is all there is once you've cleared it

shrewd oriole
#

The change to chains was a buff

#

Not a nerd

#

Nerf*

brisk forge
#

And reclearing Argus wasnt so bad at all

shrewd oriole
#

The boss was legit easier before the change

#

Cuz you just stacked immunities

sharp viper
#

given the nature of RNG it had previously i'd say it is easier now since you can control the dmg and healing more now, and you can't immune chains application anymore which is also a nerf

shrewd oriole
#

And ignored the hardest mechanic in p3/4

steep obsidian
#

not everyone can make a comp that stacks immunities though

shrewd oriole
#

And to those people it’s a nerf

drifting cloud
#

it was def easier before the change, at worst you can say its the same

#

because you would usually get 2 anyways

shrewd oriole
#

But to people with like 7-8 immunities

drifting cloud
#

sometimes you would rng 0-1

shrewd oriole
#

Def a nerf

drifting cloud
#

3 was a wipe 😄

shrewd oriole
#

A buff*

#

But like

sharp viper
#

it is not as hard of a nerf as KJ had

shrewd oriole
#

Immunities are a lot more common

#

Than you think

#

Rogues, hunters, frost mages, paladins

steep obsidian
#

what could they nerf on the fight without making it exponentially easier?

shrewd oriole
#

Dks

steep obsidian
#

like it sems a lot fo guilds wipe at sub 10% a shit ton before they kill it

shrewd oriole
#

There’s more I just cba

drifting cloud
#

the aoe dmg

#

from his shout

shrewd oriole
#

@steep obsidian the dps check is super tight

#

Nerf his hp

steep obsidian
#

yeh

drifting cloud
#

maybe 5% hp, wouldnt be that big since only 60% of hp is mythic

quick ice
#

I mean, didn't KJ nerfs basically just gut the fight compared to pre-nerfs? (~600ish guild)

shrewd oriole
#

ATM you canr kill it if one or two people die in the last phase

#

Kj was significantly easier post nerf yeah

#

Cant*

steep obsidian
#

yeh like if its still a very tight dps check such that you cant even kill it with one or 2 deaths on farm

sharp viper
#

KJ experienced several nerfs

steep obsidian
#

that is pretty harsh

drifting cloud
#

the biggest kj nerf was the add hp

#

after they removed big meteor it was just omegalul

shrewd oriole
#

Yep

quick ice
#

being able to skip the 2nd set of adds was pretty handy too

shrewd oriole
#

Kj by the end about half as difficult as pre nerf I’d say

#

Argus is p much as difficult now as it was when world 200 guilds killed it

steep obsidian
#

like archi in hfc eventually you could get enough gear to completely skip hard parts of the fight

drifting cloud
#

and last phase was just a joke

steep obsidian
#

i cant remember how much they nerfed that fight

drifting cloud
#

since you had no enrage anymore

shrewd oriole
#

@steep obsidian yeah but

#

It wasn’t just nerfs

#

It was ilvl boosts

steep obsidian
#

yeh that ture

sharp viper
#

well it was a bit harder to get to KJ, avatar and maiden were gate keepers for a lot of guilds, the only hard boss before avatar is aggramar

shrewd oriole
#

Ring + your gear itself got more ilvl with valor

steep obsidian
#

the +8 ilvl was a lot

shrewd oriole
#

Damage was retarded

glossy creek
#

Hey, looking for a bit of advice on where I seem to be going wrong - I've mained assas rogue since MoP and always done fine with it, had a break from raiding and came back late ToS, logs were going in the right direction into Antorus progression but when I het around 945 ilvl it took a nose dive and I couldn't gel with it. Rogue has been benched the last month or so as raid team needed me to tank, but I'm going back to DPS shortly - wondered if anyone could offer a bit of guidance as to where I'm fucking up

shrewd oriole
#

Mistress was way harder than maiden

drifting cloud
#

maiden is like vari

sharp viper
#

i only raided hfc casually, weren't there some boss fights that only lasted about half a minute since people were overgeared as hell and the class trinkets were broken?

drifting cloud
#

even if you have 100 wipes on maiden when most of them are under 1min

#

you dont actually spend so much time on it

#

that was speed kills

#

with 15 mages

#

pretty sure iron reaver speed kill is like 13s

frozen pecan
#

@glossy creek take a look @ the guide

#

its pinned

drifting cloud
#

literally had to pop legendary ring in prepull

quick ice
#

@glossy creek if you have logs we can probably look at them, too

glossy creek
solid nova
#

You're not using Vendetta, KB or TB on pull

frozen pecan
#

opener wrong

solid nova
#

And your vanish is not in sync with with anything

shrewd oriole
#

Lord

frozen pecan
#

that's why I said read the guide pls

solid nova
#

And you've got mantle

#

But just doing a regular opener with it

#

Wasting so many CPs

#

Well, its not even a regular opener

glossy creek
#

I'm on the guide now. A friend recommended I come here as I'd get some good advice

solid nova
#

Idk what you're trying to do

shrewd oriole
#

Why are you wearing an agility gem

#

Or a versa gem for that matter

#

That’s a real pepethink

steep obsidian
#

yeah id read the guide and focus on a few things at once and if you have any specific questions I'd ask then

brisk forge
#

Good advice from Rogue Discord???? 🤔

steep obsidian
#

like people can probalby pull 30 things out atm from one of your logs

#

but none of it would stuck

frozen pecan
#

what do you even mean ancelm?!?!?

shrewd oriole
#

Are you not finishing on 4

brisk forge
#

😏

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz that’s a lot of wasted cps

steep obsidian
#

you do generally get good advice from here though

#

sometimes it comes with a pretty fucking big roast

#

but its still good advice

glossy creek
#

I am aware that they suck - that's pretty much what I said in the first place

frozen pecan
#

I mean "read the guide" is a very good advice ^^

solid nova
#

How you open varies almost on every kill as well

median marsh
#

why do I get 3 combo points from kingsbane

solid nova
#

Not sure why

drifting cloud
#

it gives 3 cps when it crits

amber sleet
#

Cuz u crit @median marsh

median marsh
#

why it gives 3 and not 2?

#

I meant to ask

glossy creek
#

If they didn't suck I wouldn't have been here asking for advice in the first place

drifting cloud
#

it was buffed

quick ice
#

hits with both hands

amber sleet
#

Both weapons attack

shrewd oriole
#

You get 3 cuz it’s a big hit

median marsh
#

I see

shrewd oriole
#

You stab the mob with a lot of force

median marsh
#

not clear from the tooltip

shrewd oriole
#

So he’s like wow have 3

brisk forge
#

I didnt mean anything bad with it @frozen pecan was a bit sarcasm/ironi

frozen pecan
#

*shank @shrewd oriole

shrewd oriole
#

Rogue discord is the best discord

#

Specially if I’m doing log review

frozen pecan
#

I was joking Anclem lul

shrewd oriole
#

You can stop typing everyone

#

You know it’s true

quick ice
#

@median marsh wow tooltips often don't tell the full story unfortunately

shrewd oriole
#

Kb tool tip

#

Is so trash

frozen pecan
#

I love rogue discord when Tom does reviews

shrewd oriole
#

It’s actually so bad

frozen pecan
#

best thing ever

quick ice
#

I was thinking of the SoT tooltip, but yeah the KB tooltip is not good

shrewd oriole
#

I love you nefy

drifting cloud
#

kb used to give 2cp tho didnt it and was buffed

#

or was that something else 🤷

quick ice
#

I don't remember that

brisk forge
#

Based on crit

solid nova
#

@glossy creek http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ best place to start will be in the openers and rotation tab.

I'd clean up on some of your gems and enchants too as they're a bit all over the place. You need to utilise mantle a lot better (as its currently being wasted) as well as lining up your vendettas with vanish burst (as you'll proc mantle)

Missing basic rotations at the moment but above is a good start - if you manage to get somethings noted down and new logs I'll happily look at them for you. It's a bit hard to throw advice without the basics down first though.

As an after thought, you over cap CPs a lot which is a huge DPS loss.

sharp viper
#

hell yeah log review time

shrewd oriole
#

Nah

#

Not gonna log review

#

I only review logs that have read the guide

sharp viper
#

no applications?

shrewd oriole
sharp viper
#

oh wait you changed guild

shrewd oriole
#

I changed guild and my new guild doesn’t let raiders see apps

#

Trust me tho

#

This new guild get way worse apps

frozen pecan
#

richard with the friendly boi advice lul

shrewd oriole
#

Every other person saying they are close pals to fatboss or preach

glossy creek
#

@solid nova thank you for pointing me in the right direction

shrewd oriole
#

It’s so cringe

#

“Yeah I’m basically preach’s brother I’m in his twitch chat all the time”

#

🤢

drifting cloud
#

I should apply and say Im with Tom on discord all the time 🆒

shrewd oriole
#

AHAHHA

quick ice
#

I don't understand why that's a good thing tbh

shrewd oriole
#

I’m basically toms best friend

sharp viper
#

you also jerk him off three times per day, friendly hand jobs

strange python
#

It isnt?

marble hemlock
#

only impressive thing about that, is that he decides to talk to you 12times a day

sharp viper
#

you could basically say you're a relationship with tom, tom

shrewd oriole
#

Ahahahaha

frozen pecan
#

:X

shrewd oriole
#

Delete that

#

Before mods see it

frozen pecan
#

lul

sharp viper
#

giggle has no tolerance for taht

solid nova
#

I write some friendly advice, tab back, confused as to what i'm reading.

shrewd oriole
#

I called tisumi a retard (jokingly) and got muted

sharp viper
#

but i guess she is afk and notter is busy getting swole as fuck brah

shrewd oriole
#

There’s a reason we lost like 5 regulars in the last month

#

🤷

strange python
#

You scared them away

sharp viper
#

i bet it was AMR

shrewd oriole
#

Yep

#

Def not the moderation btw haHAA

sharp viper
#

hence "apparently saber"

solid nova
#

I have noticed the trend in Tom writing then Connor swooping in shortly after

#

I dont think he likes you Tom

shrewd oriole
#

I mean

#

He likes chain smokers

#

So does his opinio really matter

strange python
#

I love Tom, what do you mean

frozen pecan
#

I mean I been warned for the guitar thingy but not for anything else lul

shrewd oriole
solid nova
#

Chain smokers as in the music people?

shrewd oriole
#

Yes

solid nova
#

Don't think ive heard anything from them tbh

shrewd oriole
#

AHAHAHAHAH THAT NAME

solid nova
#

Gimme a link?

shrewd oriole
#

@limpid reef

limpid reef
#

Thats the sound of a man smoking in a chaaaaaain gang!

strange python
#

Tom loves me too

zealous dew
#

i will never get that foking KG trinket

#

12 coins already wasted there

drifting cloud
#

is that enough? 😛

solid nova
#

OH

#

I've heard that in stores and shit 😄

strange python
#

That song sucks though

solid nova
#

Okay, I have heard them

#

Seems like basic bitch music to me

marble hemlock
#

can i be proud of myself for never having heard of that... "music" ever before?

sharp viper
#

well that's what it is

#

goddamn hipsters

strange python
#

I like most of their older stuff

echo estuary
#

2 bil views for that, meanwhile maybe 20 here out of 13450 knows the genius of Rachmaninoff

solid nova
#

Richimanioff

marble hemlock
#

sophisticated man Perelman

strange python
#

You know when someone says they like an artist, do you think that really means they like every song they have made

#

🤔

solid nova
#

I can't help but picture Perelman typing everything while swirling a white Russian in his hands tbh

shrewd oriole
#

AHAHAHA

marble hemlock
frozen pecan
#

hahah wtf

marble hemlock
#

i like you

sharp viper
#

I, a gentleman and scholar, only listen to the finest music the pleb masses never heard about and certainly could not even pronounce the sophisticated artist's names

keen inlet
#

@echo estuary my masterpieces of russian literature prof (took several courses from her) was obsessed with Rachman

shrewd oriole
#

Yes

#

Like 2pac

#

Who is still alive

#

In Argentina

marble hemlock
#

this is sad 😦

shrewd oriole
#

Wait that’s hitler

frozen pecan
#

I prefer lil' xan, fuck 2pac

shrewd oriole
#

Tupac is in Cuba

keen inlet
#

learned as much of his piano as she could, wrote poetry about him

shrewd oriole
#

That was a quality meme @frozen pecan

limpid reef
#

I’m alive in argentina! But in Norway tho so no..

sharp viper
#

no, hitler is on the moon, have you not seen the documentary iron sky?

echo estuary
#

nothing to do with sophistication

shrewd oriole
#

I won’t die before watching Kanye West live man

#

I can’t allow that to happen

limpid reef
#

He won’t either

echo estuary
#

everything to do with appreciation for talent

marble hemlock
#

^

sharp viper
#

go outlaw holy paladin or wotc monk in 2s

limpid reef
#

Go! Why are you yellow tho? @gusty kestrel

frozen pecan
#

asian?

limpid reef
#

Omg nefy xD

solid nova
#

Not like this

limpid reef
#

Not ok bro...

solid nova
#

That emoji isnt okay

#

Delete that cringe thing

frozen pecan
#

y? 🤷

sharp viper
#

aprils fools passed 😦 no more mod

solid nova
#

It's almost as bad as 😛

marble hemlock
#

i mean it was more like brownish, not orange, right?

limpid reef
#

Like poop?

shrewd oriole
#

The accurate color for mods

limpid reef
#

Damn

sharp viper
#

slightly off the shadowblades colour

#

but it was orange

#

i sincerely hope your poop is not orange, if so maybe change diet

limpid reef
#

The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky!

sharp viper
#

notter only consumes pure protein

limpid reef
#

Norwegian poop is always orange.

shrewd oriole
#

What should I get for breakfast

#

I’m really feeling Nutella crepe

#

But

limpid reef
#

Steamed veggies

shrewd oriole
#

😦

frozen pecan
#

nutella crepe sounds good

shrewd oriole
#

Yo miss me with that veggie shit I’m on vacation

solid nova
#

Are there other choices?

frozen pecan
#

or a full english

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah there’s a shit load of things

solid nova
#

Or do we get to chose?

#

I mean

#

French toast is always a winner

#

Scrambled egg

shrewd oriole
#

Throw suggestions, there’s nearly everything

frozen pecan
#

wurst semmal

shrewd oriole
#

I tried the French toast on Monday and didn’t really like it

solid nova
#

😮

shrewd oriole
#

Could get some scrambled eggs

limpid reef
#

HahahaxD veggies aren’t food tho..

solid nova
#

Former

sharp viper
#

eggs + bacon, buttered toast and a nutella crepe with some strawberries on the side

limpid reef
#

Put Ariana on toast!

shrewd oriole
#

@limpid reef can you change your name to accousticguitarplayer

solid nova
#

Oh not washed up just yet then 😄

shrewd oriole
#

@sharp viper I’m gonna have just that

limpid reef
#

For breakfast

frozen pecan
#

just eat crepe tom, with marmalade or nutella 👌

solid nova
#

Ditch the strawberries

#

Raspberries are so much better

sharp viper
#

season tho

quick ice
#

eggs benny kthx @shrewd oriole

solid nova
#

Don't use logic against me

limpid reef
#

Poop

sharp viper
#

you are more likely to find strawberries than raspberries right now

marble hemlock
#

dont think they serve that though

solid nova
#

Eggs and bacon with a bit of toast and a coffee sounds great right now

quick ice
#

its nearly 11pm and now even I want eggs 😦

marble hemlock
#

how about bacon with some bacon, bacon on the side?

limpid reef
#

Yes!

shrewd oriole
#

I liked @sharp viper idea

limpid reef
#

The bacon thing!

shrewd oriole
#

Gonna have that but add some refreshing fruits

#

Like water melon

solid nova
#

Salmon with new potatoes and broccoli tonight for me

#

I want to eat dinner already

keen inlet
#

I think I'm gonna do some steamed salmon this week

solid nova
#

Yes Jose

shrewd oriole
#

@solid nova did you see the Ronaldo goal yday?

solid nova
#

Yeah I did mate

shrewd oriole
#

I’m having lobster for dinner today

quick ice
#

I just got a new sous vide that I want to test out this weekend. not sure what to christen it with though

keen inlet
#

worked 3 hours last night, got 1/3rd of kitchen wall tiled. Jeebus that's time-intensive work

limpid reef
#

Salmonella with new potatoes and broccoli tonight for you

solid nova
#

Tiling is horrible

#

I tried it once and gave up

keen inlet
#

tbf it's a yuuuuuuuuuge wall tho

marble hemlock
#

who payed for it though? 🤔

limpid reef
#

Yuuge?

keen inlet
#

me 😦

#

just like I'll somehow end up paying for the border wall

solid nova
#

If i can afford someone else to do it - i'll pay for it

#

Thats my way

keen inlet
#

despite promises to the contrary

limpid reef
#

Or was it me???

frozen pecan
#

I'm cutting for summer gonna eat low carb tonight

solid nova
#

Salmon, new potatoes and broccoli

#

Thats low everything

#

High protein

frozen pecan
#

potatoes not really

limpid reef
#

Based on your name wasn’t you supposed to pay for the wall?xD

solid nova
#

Perfecto!

#

New potatoes surely are a lot less

#

Tiny things

marble hemlock
#

i didnt wanna say it

#

but a guy named jose paying for a yuuuuge wall

#

seems like what was promised

frozen pecan
#

salmon sounds like a good idea tho

solid nova
#

I make a wall

limpid reef
#

HahahxD

quick ice
#

that's a real nice lookin chilli. very large

limpid reef
#

My chili is the biggest chili

solid nova
#

Tbh I'd love to go to Mexico one day

limpid reef
#

Indeed

lost horizon
#

Thus it was written, thus it shall be done

limpid reef
#

@fiery flower could you please just explain why?

lost horizon
#

There was a post made

keen inlet
#

I already told you why

lost horizon
#

In announcements I think

keen inlet
frozen pecan
#

lul

lost horizon
#

That's definitely the way to change it without pissing people off 🤔

solid nova
#

It was the original name 🤷

limpid reef
#

Are you shitting me? Acoustic and guitar in the same name?

keen inlet
#

👋

limpid reef
#

Freaking high strung people

#

But sure i fixed it

spare cloud
#

Oh boy ive come right on time

lost horizon
#

Spicy

quick ice
#

I feel like that's possibly not better?

keen inlet
#

how is "guitarded" better

frozen pecan
#

it's his original name tho

limpid reef
#

Its been my name on Psn for 6 years without anyone saying anything against it

lost horizon
#

Is it actually? That makes it even better

limpid reef
#

Ty mate😊

#

I play guitar a lot 😁

marble hemlock
#

wait, so people have actually tried replacing autistic with acoustic?

keen inlet
#

Yes.

marble hemlock
#

oO

keen inlet
#

That's the guitar emoji thing

marble hemlock
#

im too old for this...

spare cloud
#

Seliathan youve been living under a rock since preparing for mdi

marble hemlock
#

not really

#

i just never was bothered by words, cause you know, theyre just words

spare cloud
#

When it comes to rh at least

#

Cant blame you really

marble hemlock
#

and its not like they are even phonetically similar

limpid reef
#

@fiery flower no probs. Didn’t know about it. Was told to change my name but another dude here and thought he ment it cause of the original meaning of acoustic.

quick ice
#

could be worse seli - my guild makes fun of our "old man". he's 30.

frozen pecan
#

baited lmao

spare cloud
#

Seli makes fun of the young people

#

So i fight back

marble hemlock
#

i mean we have someone we call grandpa even though hes 23, but thats mostly because he acts like muten-roshi whenever females are around

limpid reef
#

Oh i feel old now..

keen inlet
#

@quick ice I'm 32 and get called ancient on here with regularity

spare cloud
#

You know im just joking

solid nova
#

Grandpa Jose ❤

marble hemlock
#

turning 30 this year ><

limpid reef
#

Turning 27 this year..

marble hemlock
#

which basically means

spare cloud
#

Don you are ancient not because of your age

marble hemlock
#

ive been playing this game for half my life

shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
#

thats a hyperyikers if ive ever seen one

shrewd oriole
#

@sharp viper

jovial kite
#

The spice is high

keen inlet
#

@spare cloud I'm ancient because of my gravitas?

quick ice
#

Don is ancient due to wisdom and about to have a kid, which will rapidly age him

solid nova
#

The scrambled eggs look like Mash potato...

jovial kite
#

Right time to come

marble hemlock
#

the spice must always flow

spare cloud
#

Yes.

quick ice
#

they're either the worst looking mashed potato or the best looking eggos

spare cloud
#

Wait thats supposed to be scambled egg

quick ice
#

melon looks good too

spare cloud
#

Wtf

marble hemlock
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i mean

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hard to fuck up melon-slices right

quick ice
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I mean it looks like nice melon

spare cloud
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But there is good melon and not so good melon

marble hemlock
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yeah

quick ice
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you can get some pretty dodgy melon

keen inlet
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@shrewd oriole not sure if wicker placemats

or rug-friction-holder stuff

marble hemlock
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one is watermelon, the other is honeymelon

solid nova
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The coffee is empty though 😦

spare cloud
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What is that under the melon

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Never seen it

marble hemlock
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crepe?

solid nova
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A plate

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Civilised people eat from plates

marble hemlock
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LUL

solid nova
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Or bowls

jovial kite
spare cloud
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But its so transparant

jovial kite
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a plate lul

keen inlet
shrewd oriole
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@keen inlet the first ahaha

quick ice
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its got nutella on it?

frozen pecan
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It's a palatschinken guys come on

shrewd oriole
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Yeah

quick ice
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super thin crepe too

limpid reef
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Is the white thing mold?

keen inlet
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looks like a really bubbly crepe

shrewd oriole
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It’s a local thing called tapioca

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Not really a crepe

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It’s really good

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The eggs are great too tbh

spare cloud
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Until they come back out

limpid reef
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Stop with the food please i’m so hungry D:

dire spoke
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huh?

spare cloud
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Me too

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I think im gonna get a crepe on my way home

jovial kite
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Ima get sum dim sum

spare cloud
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There is a place right infront of my work that sells all kinds of crepe

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And they are amazing

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Tisumi

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Send me clip in private chat

limpid reef
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I can’t make food atm... at my gfs house and she is at work and her family is here xD hell no i’m not leaving this room

spare cloud
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So i can watch at home