#assassination

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solid nova
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Then its poggers

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And then you'll never have another proc like that all dungeon 😦

lone junco
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I get all my procs on the run

shrewd oriole
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Member when combat was the go to for aoe

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Fbm

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Wish we had an aoe spec 😦

lone junco
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anyway. the best 8-10boss 20s I can get from Sub is 11m. sin 8m

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a similar geared dh with hat can pull 18m

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and that 18m is for 20 and 40s

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super cool

shrewd oriole
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Now imagine

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Monk

lone junco
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we dont have a raid monk

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ill find one.

shrewd oriole
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@solid nova listen to freaky Friday

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That shit funny af

median stag
shrewd oriole
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Rip

lone junco
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grats

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57g18s68c

keen inlet
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hahahahahaha

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ripperino

solid nova
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@median stag F 😭

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I'll get round to it Tom, trying to look busy at work

shrewd oriole
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Rip

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Breezy

solid nova
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GFs getting a new tattoo

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Waiting for picture

shrewd oriole
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Trampstamp?

manic vigil
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Why don't you teach your dh buddy tho? @lone junco

solid nova
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I hate trampstamps 😂

lone junco
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@manic vigil ive tried. many times

terse hinge
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Anybody else find it amusing how with Assassination duels end in like 3 seconds?

manic vigil
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Ah learning resistance too stronk?

strange python
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people still duel?

terse hinge
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I do. Always compete with my friends

strange python
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figured it died since hp pools and damage output are a bit fucky

terse hinge
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Dude true

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Lol

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Paladins are terrifying in 1v1's

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If you don't kill them INSTANTLY you're fucked. They don't even need to use bubble. Lol..

honest pelican
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960 drape of shame for my rogue, great

manic vigil
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Well tbf as a dh you gotta be edgy. Being good would be too mainstream I guess @lone junco

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Dh main btw haHAA

shrewd oriole
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@honest pelican link it in the paladin discord

lone junco
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@manic vigil tbh, the toolkit is fantastic. esp for 5man work.

manic vigil
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Yeah it seems like a fun class

lone junco
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beam on demand, is like a sub cloak open. plus fel nova, and ranged kick.

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giving up survival

manic vigil
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I never really played it but since it's fast and spammy I'm almost certain I'd love it

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But making fun of them is my duty so..

marble hemlock
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looks like swagstep didnt manage to get a good NL run in, so only 1 rogue left 😦

manic vigil
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No surprise there

shrewd oriole
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The guy I got to do my 15 changed my mog

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@marble hemlock ashine and muscle are still in no?

solid nova
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Trinket slot 2?

shrewd oriole
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Ah it’s there on the armory

strange python
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ashines team is gonna win

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ez

shrewd oriole
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Must’ve screencapped before it loaded

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I hope so

strange python
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also nnogga's team looked strong

shrewd oriole
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We are gonna party hard if they do

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Poggers

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Blake squad

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Sadly muscle is in

strange python
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gross

shrewd oriole
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Hopefully

strange python
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they did well but its timetrials so they got infinite chances

shrewd oriole
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Then we can spam no name

strange python
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drjay is an ape so maybe theyll get dq'd or something poggers

marble hemlock
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sry had to afk for a bit

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yeah

shrewd oriole
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One can hope

marble hemlock
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ashine last bastion of hope for the rogues

shrewd oriole
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Ashine is the true hero RH needs

marble hemlock
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muscle been playing monk for like 4months now so i dont consider him a rogue anymore :x

shrewd oriole
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Plus

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He’s a cunt

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So I do t want him as my class representative

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I’d much rather have @fathom badger

lethal heart
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yea

shrewd oriole
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Raid leader of walk through

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Defender of Blake

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Hero of ravenholdt

lethal heart
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it's only ashine that i respect from sub rogues that are on top

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i can think of

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at least EU wise

marble hemlock
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kjells angel :3

lethal heart
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didnt you mean wiping as intended?

shrewd oriole
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Oh yeah

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Cira is WT

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Mb

rain pewter
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ruck favenholdt

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waitwhat

manic vigil
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Who is ashine btw? Does he stream or how do you all know him?

marble hemlock
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one of the m+ rogue triumvirate basically

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together with miracle/dregan

lethal heart
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yea sadly they dont compete FeelsBadMan

strange python
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he streams a bit

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or did

marble hemlock
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miracle sucks though, so ashine is basically best m+ rogue

lethal heart
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😄

strange python
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but yeah hes basically the only m+ rogue competing that high

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since muscle is a dweeb

lethal heart
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immortal 22 gearset meme though

shrewd oriole
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I mean

spare cloud
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Aversion didnt qualify

lethal heart
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gotta appreciate him for that

spare cloud
shrewd oriole
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Degran is cool

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Why can’t he compete?

lethal heart
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well

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he just didnt get in

shrewd oriole
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Don’t really talk to him

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Ah fair

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Rip

marble hemlock
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they stopped trying a day or two ago

shrewd oriole
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Ashine is our boy

lethal heart
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he played with one guy from my guild

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and they basically gave up yesterday night

marble hemlock
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same with swagstep i suppose

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only like 20:xx nelth time

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so not enough for top8

lethal heart
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swag was playing bdk in thhat team

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wasnt he?

marble hemlock
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ye

lethal heart
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aversion has some really fucking good players in their raidteam

strange python
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they lumped US/OC together yes?

marble hemlock
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no

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NA/APAC seperate regions

lethal heart
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yea thats meme

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1st apac team

strange python
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oh neat

shrewd oriole
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That would be big meme

lethal heart
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wouldnt even be top 8 europe FeelsBadMan

shrewd oriole
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Europe best region

lethal heart
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not even top 10 probably

shrewd oriole
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As always

lethal heart
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it's only because

shrewd oriole
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Who got 1st seed in Europe?

lethal heart
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these jobless european people

shrewd oriole
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Drag?

lethal heart
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can just play all day

shrewd oriole
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Frag*?

lethal heart
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and live with their parents

spare cloud
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wow like the only game where EU is top of the competition

marble hemlock
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yeah, thanks to their 4dps NL

lethal heart
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yea by far

shrewd oriole
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What place did divine’s team get

marble hemlock
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they got 1st seed

lethal heart
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they're like 3 minutes ahead of 2nd team

marble hemlock
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5 or 6

spare cloud
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wow and counter strike

lethal heart
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that's huge

strange python
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4dps NL grevious is super dumb

lethal heart
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their overall timer is ~36ish minutes

strange python
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very ballsy

shrewd oriole
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Not bad

lethal heart
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and 2nd team is 39ish

shrewd oriole
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5th is decent

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Can you link the doc again

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Mobile 😦

lethal heart
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dont even need to use doc

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sec

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its on raider io

shrewd oriole
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Ah fair

lethal heart
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it's a bit bugged need to look at timers

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because it says 8th team has 41:27 and 9th 41:23

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so it's not correct

spare cloud
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here is the doc

marble hemlock
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oh the nolltvatre grp managed to get into top8

lethal heart
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yeaa

marble hemlock
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so dajhaj still in too

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two rogues, hype

serene hinge
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so this might be a silly question, but when running sims, do you guys set other pantheon trinkets to 19?

lethal heart
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4 french 1 dane got into

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i guess

serene hinge
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found stat weights change significantly due to the pantheon trinket setting

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but i never used to mess around with that number

marble hemlock
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oh, thats nice

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guess i can make fun of miracle now

lethal heart
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rofl

marble hemlock
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that the girl-pally from his guild managed to get into regionals and he didnt

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brb

lethal heart
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LULLUL

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i almost played with them

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but i just lost motivation

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after my team fell apart

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super happy they made it

shrewd oriole
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@serene hinge 0 pantheons

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19 pantheons is 19 amanthuls

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At most 8 ish pantheons

serene hinge
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ahhh okay, didnt know it meant that

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thanks for clearin that up lol

shrewd oriole
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It’s under the part where you select the amount of pantheons

serene hinge
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oh....

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awk...

spare cloud
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Helpful tom

marble hemlock
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probably just an imposter

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while the real tom is being ransomed as we speak

shrewd oriole
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Christ

lethal heart
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rofl

shrewd oriole
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Frag’s team is so ahead

lethal heart
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yea

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but thats mostly because of their nelths

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probably

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which they wont be able to 'reproduce' if they get 1 chance on stage game for example

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super impressive shit though, 4 dpsing grievous dungeon

shrewd oriole
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Yeah it is

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Still

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Big dick

marble hemlock
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just goes to show

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how tertiary stats need to be removed from the game

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cause theyre all shit

lethal heart
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well yea

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if you can balance your strats around them

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definitely

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but they clearly didnt see that coming

marble hemlock
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avoidance/speed are basically a checkmark you have to make to be able to get into highkeys "got 20% avoidance/18% speed? youre tall enough for this ride"

lethal heart
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speed as rogue wahat you on m8 but yea i know

marble hemlock
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and leech is just a bad thing in general, both on items aswell as with class mechanics like dh meta/vamp aura

lethal heart
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actually tertiary stats as rogue LUL

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when it's make or break its super bad

marble hemlock
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yeah

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i mean

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this thing alone

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gives me like 200k-300k hps on last boss in seat

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which is huge

lethal heart
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they'd literally need to cut leech to the tenth of it's value

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everywhere

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with how much dps we do right now

marble hemlock
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just remove it alltogether

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honestly

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all these "bonus" effects are starting to become mandatory instead

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atleast in high m+

lethal heart
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yep

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for raiding it's w/e i guess

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unless people literally

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were going for 20 avoidance on stuff like aggramar

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which i doubt

marble hemlock
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if they want to keep leech, make it gear-only, not abilities granting it, and cap it at like 10 or 20%

shrewd oriole
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I don’t like leech on items

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I like bdk aura tho

marble hemlock
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i mean its really only a thing for m+ because people doing m+ get a shitton more items to choose from, raiders usually only get their weekly lockout loot and tertiary stats are very rare still

shrewd oriole
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I think it’s an interesting raid cd

lethal heart
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bdk aura is good enough

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it makes you want bdk for certain encounters

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in m+ that is

marble hemlock
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it is, but its also what makes bdk be the uncontested m+ tank

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sure divinefield or shakib manage on other classes, but theyd simply be better off if they were playing dk anyway

lethal heart
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yea they're playing or they'd be playing bdk anyway

shrewd oriole
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I mean which they are lol

lethal heart
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well shakib isnt

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but divine is

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because rip shakib

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😦

shrewd oriole
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Divine doesn’t play it on live cuz he can’t bring it to raids

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Which means it has way worse gear

lethal heart
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idk why some guilds dont allow people to come on their alts

marble hemlock
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divine just said in noggas chat

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that they tried out pally in mos

lethal heart
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it was same in my guild

marble hemlock
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then he tried out dk

lethal heart
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it was so fucking hard to convince them to bring in my alt

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even for 9 easy bosses

marble hemlock
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and never played anything else the entire TR again

shrewd oriole
lethal heart
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my alt wasnt even scuffed or anything

shrewd oriole
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@lethal heart they normally do but it’s a different role so

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He heals as Pala

lethal heart
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oh that's problematic

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getting someone else to tank

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yea

fervent beacon
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975 ring from my + cache, mast/vers

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👀

shrewd oriole
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Not bad

manic vigil
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No haste

lethal heart
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i cant wait to get my weekly chaos crystal

fervent beacon
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losing 6% crit tho man, FeelsBadMan

manic vigil
fervent beacon
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i hope i don't use shoulders now, pls praise me lord simc

marble hemlock
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no shoulders club best club

lethal heart
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i love assa boots

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more vendettas 👌

fervent beacon
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KMS

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shoulders/boots time bois

shrewd oriole
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Ew

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No

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Don’t play boots just cuz they sim higher lmao

lethal heart
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boots are probably one of this legendaries huh

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if you ca nget one more extra cast of vendetta because of them

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then gets better value

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but if no then rip

marble hemlock
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since it drops your vendetta CD by like 20-30seconds

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it doesnt take long for you to get an extra vendetta out of them

shrewd oriole
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I wish I had more crit

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Can’t play anything but shoulders

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😦

marble hemlock
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13.2k crit with EoC stacked :x

shrewd oriole
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I have like 8k crit

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And 19.5k mastery

manic vigil
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Boots bracers ftw bigWOW

zealous dew
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no!

turbid harbor
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on patchwerk the reduction is roughly 22sec

zealous dew
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prydaz, valeera ftw

lethal heart
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sephuz

turbid harbor
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I always feel like I’m pumping super hard with boots

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Feels way nicer

strange python
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prydaz means sick bombs boiis

lone junco
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my heart sucked.

zealous dew
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lol

manic vigil
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Keep that one noobe

lone junco
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used the free form snip for something at work.

manic vigil
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We gonna need it

shrewd oriole
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I’ve been watching vines by the pool for like 3 hours ahaha

lone junco
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@zealous dew I actually had to use shoulder prydaz on first boss Tyr Nelth.

shrewd oriole
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I miss vine

lone junco
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oy he is a bitch.

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we are doing 20s now, but people be dyin

zealous dew
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i feint

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😃

turbid harbor
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you have feint tho

lone junco
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I feint a lot.

turbid harbor
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only need to feint shatter

zealous dew
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just kill skitters, 2 up might wipe you

lone junco
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prob a function of my other guys taking a ton of dmg. and me getting leftovers.

manic vigil
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And kill adds

lone junco
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I never die first.

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once we went prydaz, and clumped, ret/arcane gibbed the ads

manic vigil
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I'm too slow on my phone FeelsBadMan

shrewd oriole
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@lone junco

lone junco
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in time.

shrewd oriole
lone junco
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lol

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DK?

shrewd oriole
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Only 970 gear too

strange python
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DH

shrewd oriole
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Dh

lone junco
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2nd to last boss would be rough on tyr

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the pet boss would prob be fine, just leap out of breath.

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wonder what haps on 1st solo. doubt you go into the shadow realm

zealous dew
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hehe

lone junco
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@turbid harbor sub prob pushes deeps off skitters then.

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ive been working on my st. but it is like 200k under my sin

strange python
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i wonder how long until a dps is soloing 10-12s

turbid harbor
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yea it depends, but with feint on shatter your group should die long before you

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damage dealt by shatter depends on remaining hp of the ads

lone junco
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yeah. im not dying first. and ret/sin/arcane. we did better with mage in melee aoeing them on the ret.

strange python
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i use prydaz for bursting sometimes, like BRH spiders

lone junco
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19Tyr nelth at like 10mins over timer

shrewd oriole
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Prydaz as rogue

lone junco
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but shoulder/prydaz is only like a 60k drop from my shoulder bracer.

strange python
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well we do like 3-4x big pulls in a row if i can help the hpal a bit might aswell

turbid harbor
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the only time i equip prydaz is on xavius in dht

shrewd oriole
lone junco
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ive been putting it on after 2nd wipe on a boss or pack.

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and since the dps sim isnt that far back, Im not worried.

turbid harbor
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i use hands insig and use cloak vanish and cheat death as ways to deal with the mechanics

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pretty common strategy these days

shrewd oriole
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As sub?

strange python
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spiders/wyrmtongue hallway bursting without fort can kill you with enough dps

shrewd oriole
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Why not double ring

lone junco
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hands insig.

shrewd oriole
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I usually use that

lone junco
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hands insig seemsgood

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I have so much crit, id love to ditch the shoulders for ST

turbid harbor
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vigor ring is pretty shit on patchwerk without feinting

lone junco
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3x Gr 3x torment then Wp/ES/ES

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lucked out there.

turbid harbor
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can swap one for prydaz if you're at a difficulty where it will save you from dying to nightmare bolt

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but nightmare bolt does shitloads of dmg even at low 20s

strange python
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its not affected by avoidance is it? i think the highest dht ive done is 19

lone junco
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havent done a high DHT this season.

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lots of Nelth/BRH

strange python
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im only 2.4 or something, v scrub tier but i mostly just carry

lone junco
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anyway, Hand/Insig seemsgood.

lethal heart
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nightmare bolt isnt

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feed of the weak isnt

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it's only 50% aoe slam

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or w/e you'd call that

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that's affected by avoidance

turbid harbor
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ya

lethal heart
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meh

strange python
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i know cheat death is so strong but man elusiveness has such an allure

lethal heart
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wrong trinket to tf

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feelsbadman

manic vigil
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We did some with 3 ranged yesterday. Pretty fun tbh bdk aff boom hunter. Chain pulling for days

strange python
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30% wall consistently is hard to beat but cheat death is super good for risky shit

turbid harbor
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elusiveness is good with prydaz, can survive up to 26/27 fort bolt with it and prydaz

lethal heart
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yea idk last boss is so weird

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because if so many people outrange it

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you get the debuff on you

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and one tick eats your prydaz

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so then even if you feint with elusiveness you die

strange python
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can you vanish bolt or do you have to cloak and hope you dont get debuff

lethal heart
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yes

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you can veanish mid cast

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vanish*

turbid harbor
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yea that's why i just stuck with cheat death

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it's also much better for the rest of the dungeon

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and mistakes do happen

lethal heart
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it's only 3rd boss

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where i'd really love elusiveness

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because keeping elusiveness during aaoe knockback is nice

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i mean feint

turbid harbor
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winds are a bitch

lone junco
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@lethal heart same. I have a 975 i think. its barely an outlaw item, cause I dont have the scourgewing.

lethal heart
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yea it's bad for every talent combination even for my outlaw

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that's my 1st trinket from hc/mythic levels on my rogue

strange python
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ive got a 960 one i game every now and then for M+ big pulls

lethal heart
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bonus rolling dogs/vari every week

strange python
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like you can stack it on CoS and then first imp pack destroy shit

lethal heart
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and i bonus roll aggra for full memes/tier helmet maybe

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and i get 980 trinket

lone junco
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So Ive been trying to use Glaives /Mines for fat trash. Man they suck.

strange python
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glaives as sin rip

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better off just praying for poisonbomb

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i dont have sub hands or I would play it more, but ring/shoulders is still forgiving

frigid dune
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Hey all, been hanging around but haven't had a chance to ask.

What based on my parses could I do to improve on my rotation? I've recently been advised that our team is pushing our comp to handle above average numbers as well as acing mechanics.

We're 3 weeks into Mythic and 6/11 I personally don't see that we've had any major issues but then again I'm probably too close to the situation to make light of my inconsistencies.

Please take a look here and hit me up. Need to be prepared for Raid on Sunday and I want to do my best.

Thanks

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/zuljin/fürian

shrewd oriole
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Uh

manic vigil
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Soldier Tom PogChamp

shrewd oriole
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I’m going on a mission

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To look through these logs

strange python
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Be nice

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I'm looking

manic vigil
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"be nice" LUL

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It's Tom kappa

strange python
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Don't shame someone that's asking for help

shrewd oriole
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Have you read the guide @frigid dune

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Cuz you wasted like 10 combo points in your opener

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(Shoulders) 4 x 4

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  • 1
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  • 5
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12 combo points

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Wasted in 6 seconds

manic vigil
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Quickmaff

shrewd oriole
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@strange python it’s not shaming people asking for help

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But rather people who ain’t reading the guide

strange python
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Oh please, you screenshotted his logs with an intent to make fun of him

north basin
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what about kinga guys? i have 3 vendeta relics . should i wear boots for this fight?

shrewd oriole
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If you ask for help and you don’t try and help yourself first by reading the tools hand made for you

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Then idk what to tell you

fervent beacon
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wait

keen inlet
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y'all calm down

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Tom's log analyzing

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it's fine

manic vigil
shrewd oriole
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@Reysatana#4110 boots are fine

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I’m not anymore

fervent beacon
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Yeah I was going to comment on the opener too

shrewd oriole
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Because within 30 seconds I could tell he hasn’t read the guide

fervent beacon
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Not to insult the dude, but it's probably one of the worst I seen.

shrewd oriole
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So if he doesn’t put in any effort why would I

manic vigil
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peepostudy time

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That's fair I guess

shrewd oriole
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@Reysatana#4110 I can’t tag you for some reason but for progress boots are arguably better. I do tend to play bracers nowadays

fervent beacon
manic vigil
north basin
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so 3 vendetta relics plays in favor of boots there?

strange python
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oh my

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I've never used boots on kin

shrewd oriole
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It doesn’t really matter Rey

fervent beacon
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@frigid dune please take a look at the guide, your opening is a mess and wasting a lot of CP.

strange python
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But supposedly vendetta would be up for every add?

shrewd oriole
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Vendetta is up for every add

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If you’re boots

fervent beacon
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!singuide

chrome tuskBOT
strange python
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bot trolling you hard

fervent beacon
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@frigid dune Made it easy for you to find it

shrewd oriole
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Help me help you

north basin
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so without boots vendeta wont be up even with 3 relics?

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for adds

fervent beacon
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I run boots/bracers on kin so I can vend on boss/add everytime

shrewd oriole
#

Ew

fervent beacon
#

Don't think its worth using shoulders on kin unless you're praying for rng jesus

shrewd oriole
#

No shoulders on kg

#

Rip

#

Kg is the best shoulder fight lmao

fervent beacon
#

Even tho vanish will always be up for every add phase

shrewd oriole
#

Even tho they’re really good, they’re not good

#

😎

#

Just outlaw player things

fervent beacon
#

Maybe just to trigger you, I will run boots/shoulders

shrewd oriole
fervent beacon
shrewd oriole
#

That’s fine

#

As long as you’re wearing shoulders

#

👌

#

I played boots shoulders on 2 fights on progress

#

Sue me

fervent beacon
#

I probably will for agg tbh for progress

#

No point using bracers if we aren't getting sub 30% anytime soon

#

assuming that I don't get benched LuL

#

Does KB give 1 or 2 cp?

shrewd oriole
#

Getting benched in 2018

strange python
#

1 normally, 3 if crit

fervent beacon
#

We have like 4 rogues now, we keep stealing people from top failing guild on our server

#

ok so in that Furian log, he casted TB > Mut > Mut > KB > Rupture

#

👀

shrewd oriole
#

Stop

#

It’s already dead

manic vigil
strange python
#

Sometimes I've seen it give 2, maybe if the offhand gets parried or some shit but the rest crits

fervent beacon
#

its like he's using finisher at 5cp no matter what

shrewd oriole
#

Nice BULLYING void stop being such an ELITIST

fervent beacon
#

3 Muts in row for rupture.

strange python
#

👀

shrewd oriole
#

Some of us just aren’t that good OK??

manic vigil
plain thistle
#

wow next level rotation, you mortals cant even undestand

#

🤔

shrewd oriole
#

Stop taunting us with your coven farm OK

fervent beacon
#

jesus man

#

Garrote Mut Mut KB

shrewd oriole
#

Some of us people with LIVES are still on vari

#

OK?!

fervent beacon
#

Env TB Mut Mut

shrewd oriole
#

Not all of us have time to ready guides

#

!!1

fervent beacon
#

Another 3 muts > env

#

He also casted feint > vial > feint

#

oh boy, another 3 muts to env

#

3 muts to rupture

shrewd oriole
#

What’s his wasted cp

#

Over the course of the whole fight

fervent beacon
#

Fuck it's going to be a lot

shrewd oriole
#

It has to be astronomical

fervent beacon
#

It seems like he's building to 5cp for finishers in nutshell

shrewd oriole
#

74 cps wasted

#

No biggie

cosmic nacelle
#

y i k e s

strange python
#

quick maffs

#

I see 85

#

errr

shrewd oriole
#

Yes

strange python
#

84 Lul

shrewd oriole
#

50 + 30 is 80

#

I’m retarded

manic vigil
shrewd oriole
#

I’ll blame it on the glaring sub

#

Sun*

strange python
#

oh kingsbane

#

I eat my own words

shrewd oriole
#

Given enough shit logs

#

We all eventually become a bit toxic

#

Some of us have just succumbed to the madness

strange python
#

I meant that I also can't do quick math

shrewd oriole
#

To the allure

strange python
#

there;s actually 89

shrewd oriole
#

To this unnatural power

fervent beacon
#

@frigid dune Sorry to bug you, but after taking a closer look in your log, I think you should really read the sin guide in pinned because your opening is incorrect and you're also seem like you're straight up building toward to 5cp. You don't want to use combo generator once you have 4cps, so just use env or refresh rupture at 7s once you get to 4cp. If you mut and get 3, you can get another mut in for 5cp or if you need to refresh garrote, I would refresh garrote and use finisher at 4cp

#

Those two are going to be your biggest improvement

astral sundial
#

hmm you wouldn't use TB at 4 cp?

fervent beacon
#

You could, but if TB crit, you're wasting the extra CP.

#

So I would just env and cast your TB after. Am I right regarding on that Tom?

astral sundial
#

ye but your envenom deals 30% extra damage...so should be worth it

plain thistle
#

I use tb at 4 if available, you will possible lose the crit CP, but you already lose that CP mutilating at 3CP anyway, isnt a big loss

#

and doing that, you can easily get 3 envenom during TB window

fleet whale
#

I usually tb before I envenom, but use Kingsbane after envenom

#

after opener of course

plain thistle
#

but, I dont know if it is a dps increase, I never tested it with simutioncraft

astral sundial
#

as far as I know, if you messed up and at 5 CP while TB is up - then you still should TB before envenom

fervent beacon
#

Vanish KB FeelsDankMan

plain thistle
#

lol

#

garrote > 3x mutilate > rupture, thats just next level 😂

fervent beacon
#

He wasted roughly about 84cp on Garothi

manic vigil
#

People mistreat those poor combo points FeelsBadMan those poor neglected fellas

fervent beacon
#

and he wasted over 100 cps on the hounds

manic vigil
#

F

plain thistle
#

damn

fleet whale
#

should probably spec into anticipation if he's wasting all of those cps lol

fervent beacon
#

over 100 on portal keeper

plain thistle
#

I lost 40 on my mythic argus kill, which is a 10:30 min fight

fervent beacon
#

I really hope that guy comes back and see all my helpful advices aka read the guide and finish at 4cp.

#

Because he seems like he really want to improve his dps

manic vigil
#

Look at you caring for someone else BibleThump

#

I'm so proud

#

Maybe we should all do only 5cp finisher and see who parses best regardless of it

shrewd oriole
#

@fervent beacon I never use anything at 4cps

manic vigil
#

Paralympics kinda

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz yeah if it crits I’m fucked lol

manic vigil
#

Interesting

hidden beacon
#

My first garrote and rupture on opener - should I let these fully tick out or overwrite them?

fervent beacon
#

Refresh at pandemic window

honest pelican
#

the guide says u can redo rupture as early as like 8 seconds iirc

#

and not lose dmg

fervent beacon
#

So after you finish using your opening, then you basically maintain your bleed

lean hill
#

If you had nightstalker you'd let the garrote tick out wouldn't you? Or close to It, since its empowered

fervent beacon
#

If you need to refresh rupture during KB, you can do 3cp rupture.

#

Close to it

hidden beacon
#

But aren’t they empowered so overwriting cancels that

fervent beacon
#

but get outta here you pirate 😡

lean hill
#

Lol the spec change commands don't work. Back at sin for a while now

marble zephyr
#

Is there a reason why Rank 6 Master Assassin is valued so low? Its simming lower then Fade into Shadows.

vestal wren
#

what spec do you want to add/remove?

lean hill
#

I don't care all that much but I am playing sin poison if you want to green me

shrewd oriole
#

@marble zephyr doesn’t line up with cds p

vestal wren
#

there you go

lean hill
#

Thanks fuu

manic vigil
#

If using mantle. Who does that anyway right kappa

hidden beacon
#

Can you green me

manic vigil
#

Now he's an undercover pirate monkaMega

hidden beacon
#

Llease

keen inlet
#

done

hidden beacon
#

Thanks

manic vigil
#

Oh hi don

#

No one is shit talking outlaw

#

We're all friends here

marble zephyr
#

Yeah I just got mantle and was simming its a 2% dps loss over 2pc 4pc wrists + insigna

manic vigil
lean hill
#

Don sensed more yellow to green

#

It's like the force when all the kids got murdered

fleet whale
#

the trait I might miss the most in BfA is dense concoction... hopefully something similar will be an azurite trait

marble hemlock
#

no more poison knives with bfa :((

manic vigil
#

Cat-like reflexes! Cause fall damage is for scrubs

gaunt moat
#

wasn't there already something for that in T2?
maybe i'm misremembering though

fleet whale
#

we have talents to make up for that

gaunt moat
#

i need to find the bonuses again

strange python
#

No energy from vendetta sounds like the real problem

fleet whale
#

made baseline

#

in bfa

strange python
#

Oh my

fleet whale
#

well, in a weaker form

#

but still baseline

gaunt moat
#

and mut is cheaper

fleet whale
#

yeah, vendetta in bfa refunds like 40 energy instantly and 40 more over a period of time

#

but the cheaper mut and haste changes will make up some of that

shrewd oriole
#

Mates

#

We are gonna be haste stacking boys

#

Assa In bfa is gonna play like combat

fervent beacon
#

Tom. did you see the screencap that i posted?

fleet whale
#

probably try to reach some sort of soft cap at least at first

shrewd oriole
#

120 amp

#

Apm*

#

In the last tier

#

@fervent beacon which one?

fervent beacon
solid nova
#

Stop

shrewd oriole
#

Ah yeah I saw that unfortunately

#

Really wish I hadn’t

#

I thought assa was simple to play and didn’t know how you could parse grey without being dead

fervent beacon
#

At this point, I'n being more toxic than Tom is 👀

shrewd oriole
#

Guess now I know the answer to both those questions

fervent beacon
#

I tried running two mythic + this morning and people were just fucking awful. Why is it so hard to get good group with my monk

lean hill
#

Come on void. Stop expecting people to learn their class. It's not like reading a guide takes less time than running a dungeon

plain thistle
spare cloud
#

Nice carry

fervent beacon
#

lol wow

#

I got the same ring this morning on my rogue, 975

supple mesa
#

i forgot to do 15's last week

#

rip

zealous dew
#

not enchanted...

#

SLACKER

solid nova
#

🤔

fervent beacon
#

ded channel now

shrewd oriole
#

980 ring killed it

supple mesa
#

Where's my involuntary coach Tom

shrewd oriole
#

It’s voluntary work

supple mesa
#

Oh baby

#

Must be my birthday

#

If you dont mind would you please review and log?

#

a*

shrewd oriole
#

Sure

supple mesa
#

Seeing as I had a 15% pb pull and could get at the least a 99% parse I feel I must be doing idiotic shit x

#

There you are man!

safe tiger
#

hey guys, on aggramar mythic

#

we hero at 38%

#

is it better to second pot there, or at -30% for wrist?

lost mist
#

😂

plain thistle
#

the best

lethal heart
#

@shrewd oriole best log i've ever seen was cheap shot in one opener

#

it was on mistress

#

fucking most meme thing i've ever seen

jovial kite
#

nayas cheap shot opener? 🤔

lethal heart
#

let me find it

#

i think i have it bookmarked

#

overall thats pretty memefic log

shrewd oriole
#

@supple mesa how much do you sim

shrewd oriole
#

Why do you use so many feints / vials

#

This is sickening

#

Madman

supple mesa
#

I honestly have no clue, I dont do that in any other fiht

stark heart
#

dead deal 0 dps

supple mesa
#

its made me htink its a bug with logs

stark heart
shrewd oriole
#

It’s garothi

#

How do you die on garothi thonk

supple mesa
#

The only time I feint is to stay in melee on the slam xD

#

Anything else you noticed? Or just the vials/feints?

plain thistle
#

you die when your health reaches 0

#

😄

lost mist
lethal heart
#

ROFL

#

HAHAHAA

#

so many meme logs rofl

shrewd oriole
#

I hate wcls on mobile

#

I’m trying to see at what point does the boss enter 30%

#

For the past 4 minutes

#

@supple mesa can you tell me at what time does the boss goes sub 30

supple mesa
#

Hangon

#

ill try

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz I’m almost sure you fucked yo your second vanish

#

But I actually can’t tell

supple mesa
#

Im assuming

#

around 3 minutes

#

My damage went way up and stayed up around that time period on the chart

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah, you vanished properly then

#

You have 5 casts of defensives, 2 feints 3 vials that’s like a few M damage but nothing too bad

#

Apart from that you rotation seems p clean

#

It’s hard to perfectly analyze logs on mobile tbh

#

Lemme try the ipad

#

@lethal heart my favorite log is a normal run of dfa sin

#

Well nevermind I guess

lethal heart
#

dfa sin LUL

#

what the fuck hhahaha

shrewd oriole
#

Can find it for you

#

Got it

lethal heart
#

he's actually

#

not doing that bad though

supple mesa
#

Ty much for you input, just trying to figure out how I could pull such low overall dps with 15% pb , I know one of my biggest outstanding issues is pooling and improper set up for burst windows.

#

I suppose kill time could play a factor. I noticed alot of the the really high parses on garothi are like 3min kills which would be your dps after 2nd vanish so idk

prime void
#

you didnt second pot

#

lmfao

shrewd oriole
#

Your kill timer is p fucking slow

prime void
solid nova
#

Kill could be quicker, didnt second pot and a lot of energy spent on vials and feints

prime void
#

change your keybinds

solid nova
#

Didnt see anything wrong with rotation tbh

prime void
#

Idk how tf you get to 973 with such shit binds

#

but w/e

shrewd oriole
#

The guy I got to do my weekly

#

Did it as outlaw

prime void
#

outlaws fun bb

marble hemlock
#

no?

prime void
#

subjective

#

high apm is fun

#

for me

marble hemlock
#

no?

prime void
#

fun=subjective

marble hemlock
#

combat is objectively shit

#

there, i said it

prime void
#

calling it combat still

#

nurd

marble hemlock
#

yes

prime void
#

Sin=boring

marble hemlock
#

got used to it, not gonna change

prime void
#

sub=boring

keen inlet
#

It's not objectively shit.

prime void
#

^^

keen inlet
#

Nor is sub.

marble hemlock
#

im not sure

keen inlet
#

You just don't like them.

prime void
#

DROP THE HEAT JOSE

marble hemlock
#

when this "sin" stuff started

#

but to me the spec is still called assa

prime void
#

cool

keen inlet
#

Do you understand the meaning of "objective" and "subjective"

prime void
#

I'll still call it sin

marble hemlock
#

yes, i do

prime void
#

because I do what I want

keen inlet
#

That was rhetorical

#

because you don't.

#

😉

marble hemlock
#

as do i 😃

prime void
#

He couldn't tell jose

#

Low IQ plays coming through today

keen inlet
#

Hey

marble hemlock
#

just trying to be edgy, dont judge me

keen inlet
#

don't insult his intellect

#

that's tox.

#

oh

prime void
#

I'm tox

keen inlet
#

are we comically banting

prime void
#

been tox for years

keen inlet
#

you know when "bants" belong

prime void
#

shit ain't gonna change

marble hemlock
#

are we ever doing anything else here?

keen inlet
prime void
#

I think I'd rather talk here

#

Clicking away is a lot of effort

marble hemlock
#

yeah

#

general has all those combat and sub plebs

#

chiming in

#

on our monocled and privileged assa conversations

prime void
#

It's called lety

#

not sub

keen inlet
prime void
#

mate

#

assass and lety and combat

marble hemlock
#

asslety

prime void
#

fuck, might as well call it sassy rogue

marble hemlock
#

but i was honestly confused when people started calling the spec sin more and more

keen inlet
#

combart
sinny
edgebois

marble hemlock
#

guess people dont like ass anymore

keen inlet
#

ez

marble hemlock
#

so they chose something more sinful than ass instead

supple mesa
#

I'm getting a mmo mouse tommorow, so that should help with key binds 😃

keen inlet
#

What kind?

prime void
#

I personally can't stand mmo mice

#

I dont understand why people need them

#

and the sensor is complete shit and they're overpriced

supple hearth
#

If u have one arm for example

prime void
#

meaning I'd have to play with 2 mice so meh

supple mesa
#

I don't know was just going to browse the store/amazon would love recomendations :)!

solid nova
#

Naga is over rated

prime void
#

g600 > Razer

#

What richard said

#

x1000

#

if you play fps games

supple mesa
#

You think best buy would have one, or just order one off amazon?

prime void
#

prepare to have 2 mice

supple mesa
#

I play fortnite wow and league 😃

prime void
#

yeah fuck fortnite with an mmo mouse

#

bestbuy typically carries all 3 mmo mice

#

atleast in my area.

#

scimitar-naga-g600

supple mesa
#

And you are saying g600>?

spare cloud
#

I dont recommend mmo mouses

#

if you play other games

prime void
#

personally yes if I had to play one

#

I dont reccomend mmo mice tho

solid nova
#

Ive got this :

keen inlet
#

I bought a reddragon mouse dirt cheap and loved it.

#

But I gotta go back and get another one with more buttons.

solid nova
#

Done me more than fine so far

supple mesa
#

See currently I just dont know what else to set my binds to. I use 1 - 4 Shift - 4 SD SF SQ Q E R T and F

prime void
#

the only time I could maybe see myself wanting one- is if I was taking arena seriously and wanted multiple @wanton thundera1 arena 2 arena 3 macros etc

keen inlet
#

I think 10 buttons would be fine

#

rn I work off 4

supple mesa
#

you play chadlaw

#

?

prime void
#

1234 QERT ZXCV

solid nova
#

@supple mesa Mouse wheel up, down, MB 3

keen inlet
#

I play a lot of specs 🙃

prime void
#

w/ shift mods

supple mesa
#

zxcv seems uncomfortable

prime void
#

f and g and b

shrewd oriole
#

Space bar

prime void
#

how is zxcv uncomfy

#

literally within 1 key press of where you should be resting your hand

solid nova
#

X

supple mesa
#

I have a habbit of constantly presing wad while dpsing LOL

keen inlet
#

I use too many keyboard binds

solid nova
#

I have ZX and V bound

prime void
#

I dont believe thers a thing jose

#

if you can hit them accurately- how is it too much

solid nova
#

And whatever that thing is next to 1

#

`

prime void
#

ESC?

supple mesa
#

LOL

solid nova
#

This thing

prime void
#

ESC is next to my 1

solid nova
#

Nah

supple mesa
#

tilda

#

or whatever they call it

#

tildy?

prime void
#

tilde

solid nova
#

Yeah thats bound too

spare cloud
#

^

supple mesa
#

there you o

#

go*

spare cloud
#

^^^^^^^^^^^

solid nova
#

Its vanish on my rogue

prime void
#

I dont have one of those

solid nova
#

And ive got 5 mouse buttons nothing bound after 4 or t

supple mesa
#

I have 2 little mouse buttons on the let side and a wheel atm

#

I use those for trinkets

spare cloud
#

ewww

supple mesa
#

😦

solid nova
#

Ive got those as my artifact ability and interrupt

keen inlet
#

I'm saying that

#

I know if I had more mouse buttons

#

not a TON more, just like 5-6 more

#

I'd like it better/be more efficient

#

use it in other games too, probably

shrewd oriole
#

Dunno what other game I’d use mice buttons on

keen inlet
#

cool

supple mesa
#

I had kick on one of them for a while, but I just got so used to having it on S4 that it felt horribe and I switched it back xD

shrewd oriole
#

Don’t think ou would on

#

The games he mentioned he played

keen inlet
#

you can use it on any game that allows free mapping

#

so it's a matter of would I rather click a button or press a key

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

supple mesa
#

Damn outlaw rogues and their mapping

#

I was actually thinking of trying outlaw on some fights, I got an insane scourgewing the other day

onyx falcon
#

this week was vari

#

along w/ a 17.5% PB

shrewd notch
#

are you swapping to the add

shrewd oriole
#

Is that heroic

#

How is your ilvl so low

onyx falcon
#

it is heroic lol

#

im a shtter

shrewd notch
#

ohh right derp

onyx falcon
#

aint no good mythicc raider

solid nova
frigid jasper
#

how do you go about checking how many times PB procced on WCL?

strange python
#

You look at how many times it hit and divide that by 6

lone junco
#

@lethal heart bummer. Guess my insig/hands are out

#

my sin st is near 2.1. so quite a drop.

#

bleh

lethal heart
#

no gloomblade though

lone junco
#

you use Gloomblade for M+?

lethal heart
#

but yea i guess you cant change it mid dungeon sadly

#

if i had to ditch shoulders

lean hill
#

Hey Noobe what's with the 9401 ilvl?

lethal heart
#

because i cant use hands myself sadly

#

legendary hands

lone junco
#

for tyr upper theres no concern. Ive been playing exang.

#

@lean hill 940?

lethal heart
#

i go with 2s+4s and i'd love to play wrists/talent ring

lean hill
#

The middle string says shoulders 9401

lone junco
#

oh, its a renaming string and string1

lethal heart
#

but since i have to play prydaz when playing that build for surviving i usually play talent ring so i'm never out of energy for oh shit feint in case i fuck up

lean hill
#

Ah gotcha

#

Should have figured that out lol

lone junco
#

Ive been looking for a way to ditch dfa, but keep the combo cleave.

#

but cant find a mosh thats even close.

#

dfa footwork is so dodgy for me.

lean hill
#

I thought I had lotr that was simming close to standard

#

I'll mess around later with it

lethal heart
#

yea lotr is decent if you can go for gloomblade

lean hill
#

Oh wait. I still had dfa. Nvm

lethal heart
#

and 2s/4s with high ilvls or 4st21

lean hill
#

I don't think I got too weird with the talents, just Lego and tier swapping

lone junco
#

what is the standard gloomblade spec?

#

3000000?

#

(Ill do anything to get my aoe up over 10M burst but maintain single over 2m)

#

besides rerolling dh

strange python
#

311

lone junco
lethal heart
#

yea

strange python
#

looks fine

lethal heart
#

pretty much thats standard

lean hill
#

Maybe if you had all weak point and the other traits for bs/ss

sharp viper
#

goonblade standard sub spec confirmed

lean hill
#

Or secret alacrity sub spec

sharp viper
#

my sub has 7/7 weak point and 7/7 energetic stabbing 😮

shrewd oriole
#

Why

strange python
#

what channel am i in again

lean hill
#

Not sin

shrewd oriole
#

0 gutripper sub is basically a national offense

rain pewter
#

i have a 0 gutripper sub weapon

lethal heart
#

not having 7/7 gutripper

#

monkaS

shrewd oriole
#

^

#

Your iq is 0 like the number of extra gut ripper you have

rain pewter
#

when i put that in gloomblade it also is my highest simming setup 🤷

shrewd oriole
lean hill
#

Fucking relics, still have a tomb relic plugged into my sub weapon

sharp viper
#

well since i am an outlaw main i don't play that much sub

rain pewter
#

gloomblade lotr best

sharp viper
#

just got some offspec relics no one else wanted/needed

keen inlet
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Gloomblade

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got memed so heavily at the outset

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but ended up 👌

sharp viper
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it is similar to bleedy boi spec, need certain setup to viable anyhow

verbal falcon
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anyone got a nice PB weakaura? without it being part of a full wa collection

shrewd oriole