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per execute it wins any other spell there is
until there is like 8+ targets, at which point fok starts to overtake it
I could make the argument FoK would do more dpe if there were 1000 targets
yes :/
Lets not forget the only actual dps assa has
you dont play alacrity in m+ tho
so thats not possible
and even if you count in 12.5% of an average pb proc and add it to rupture
how would alac have anything to do with this
at some point fok just wins
because its the only actual dps assa has?
i would be interested in seeing the actual dpe of fok vs rupture (+12.5% pb chance per rupture counted in)
Imagine an ability that applied rupture to all targets within melee range of you, fun times
each of them having their own chance to proc pb
so if you get lucky
you get like 5 at once in a 20+mob pull
?
Yes, with mantle buff
id still prefer
cloak legendary applying to not just the fok damage, but the poison-damage it causes too
i.e. buffing instant poison/pk damage aswell as fok
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
is it just me, or does it feel that at this point half of blizzards resources go into developing that vulpera abomination?
now we even have vuilpera children 😦
dude fox tho
hi! could anyone direct me to stat values i can use just atm cause my simcraft isn't importing my char so can't simulate... possibly connected to the github DDos?
ahh there is an addon ingame?? O.O through curse or twitch or whatever?
Yeh
cool! ty!
i've been trapped under a rock for a long time. thats why i don't know these things.. promise!
at least youre asking for the resources thats totally good
better than "omg what are my stat weighs even though you dont know my character"
Having simc addon makes simming easy as fuck with raidbot
@marble hemlock I'm jelly of your 7pk 7malch tho.
That FOK spam is prob nice.
A non ep rupture ticks is what 250k avg. with a mastery stack m+ env is like 2.5m. So at 2sec ticks. Would take 10 ticks. 20 sec for a rupture to equal an env.
Aside from e return from 1x rupture. And env uptime buff. Seems that the extra rupture or extra env would be really just dependent on time.
Even if the rupture is 250k. And env is 1 mill. That's 4 ticks or 8 sec.
But he is also advocating over capping cps in high cleave and env for uptime only. Because dpe on fat trash is PK heavy with 7pk.
Yeah. Highly dependent on tank movement.
does pk deal more damage when in execute phase while wrists?
yes
Do logs still update even if no-one logs them, like not the actual DPS on the fight but the percentile next to the boss name?
Hey can anyone help me when i open as assass i sometimes only have 2 or 3 CP after. (Garrote,Multilate,Rupture,vendetta,Toxicblade, kingsbane) opener do i need to multilate then before i vanish envenom or not ?
Do you have Shoulders?
Anyone know the answer to my log question?
Logs dont update if you dont log.
so if i get a 99 in some random pug group, it wont update? not even the orange number next to the name of the boss
Ofc not if nobody logs
Why dont you just log yourself?
then you dont have that problem
i'm lazy, but i guess i should
!rtb
:game_die: rip rtb :game_die:
Man it’s so warm
@lone junco its not just 3xPK though, two of them are malch+pk+shocklight :3
👌
just bought bfa and boosted a rogue and ive never played a rogue before, what build should i play bleed or poison? or should i play a different spec first? and to help im only gearing to do the mage tower atm so which build?
If you want to do mythic content do poison
Juve merda
right now all i want to do is the mage tower? does that change your mind @dense blaze
did they change the sim value or boots and bracers with shoulder? for some reason now my helm sims better at the 2.3M mark
thanks
lucky people with 3x fok relics 😦
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mm
Mmm, new WA cluster for BAR loving weirdos.
Looks good. I have tb and Kb tracking bars tho.
Always.
Example
¯_(ツ)_/¯
and yeah TB/Vendetta before KB on Opener.
Not entirely fresh opener though, as I had to rerecord.
etc.
Dead chat
@sudden herald ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (Serqet)
nice
too bad that persons name is someone and it breaks it
change your name 
Man that fucking compression kills the quality... https://media.wago.io/screenshots/S1DnKtp9G/5ac00a3446ca7b114746c4fa.png
Looks much better.
More like 30min.
_>"
One of our raiders got banned for 500 days last night.
During the raid.
👏
Razer had some QC issues a few years back.
Especially in regards to their headsets and keyboards.
Things have gotten better as far as I know.
So like... the Razer mice from 2009 were dope, and then now they are where they are.
But in the middle there things were kinda bad.
Especially with those shitty fucking rubber side grips that DO NOT like moisture of ANY kind.
never had an issue with the razer mice i've had, 2 have lasted over 6 years
as much as i loved to use my razer imperators, they broke so goddamn fast, the cord was low quality, the clicking issues (mouse button sensor) were insanely annoying - resulted in double clicking so often, right clicking used to take so much force
and the first one breaking was my fault
headsets usually break because i drop them or some shit but this one idk
if its 18 months its probably not his first ban 😛
because blizzard bans you for 6m now
if you have no previous bans
so he was probably just banned before and made a new license
👀 ppl get banned in 2k18
I’ve botted, sold shit for real money, had racial slurs in my name
Never been banned

It’s p hard to get banned in aow
Bless dude, the restaurant has WiFi
All you can eat Brazilian meat caster
Poggers
all it takes is one or two people to report you for it and youre done tho
if nobody ever hits report then you wont get in trouble
I had a name for like 3 years on my rogue then all of a sudden out of the blue i got a 2 hour ban and was flagged for rename
My warlock is named Niralabia
I couldn't think of anything else, but it was a chick so that's what I picked.
Haven't been flagged for name change yet.
it may not be obvious enough - or offensive enough - for someone to go and report you for that though
Yep
so similar to my situation - even if it is something that might be considered offensive to someone if nobody ever actually hits report you'll probably not get in trouble until it happens

Also had wilmadikfit for 2 and a half years
I like my battle pet names.
yeah we have a guy in my guild who goes by cuck. Thats just what he uses for his names 🤷
Santorum, Spooge, Kucklord
I feel like when I am able to post decent logs in even normal. Like, I just did a #138 on argus with 8% poison bomb in a random ass pug. 9m 30s kill.
I should be able to translate that to some decent logs on mythic, but so far I'm not really seeing it. Still looking through my logs trying to find out what I'm doing wrong and what I'm doing right but I'm really not sure how to approach my play in any other different way that I currently am.
I see small mistakes here and there, but largly I feel like I'm able to satisfy the requirements for playing my spec optimally.
Envenoms in TB
Env in KB.
Utilizing buffs and shit.
Dunno where I'm really going wrong or if it's just rng.
log roast or finish this grift 
ROAST ROAST ROAST
keep in mind the population youre being compared to in mythic is on a completely different level than those you're competing with in normal
Yes I'm aware
so you could be #1 in normal and like....really bad in mythic
But even on normal, #138 and over are usually occupied by speedkills and so on.
same on HC.
If anyone see something in that log that's a concurrent issue, please let me know.
Naming yourself fuck
Fuck+
Cuck*
Is a pretty bad sign
Christ that was hard and I’m only 1 caipirinha in

Not keeping up env?
yeah you need to keep env up through out the entire kb
I do drop rupture from time to time
Mate
theres one in that log where the entire back half of your kb had no env
We told you this earlier
Logs on normal
High ilvl rogues don’t really do normal
Meaning it’s obviously gonna be easier to get good logs
dropping rupture
Don I know, forget whatever I said about the logs
That much is obvious, but I still feel like it should translate in some form or another.
Okay, so going through that log.
I mean, you guys could be cunts too, the guys asking for help
How many kbs are fucked up?
dw errorsol I've been here for awhile
where he apparently hasnt
did you know that people tend to listen more to people who arent fuckwits? who'd have thought. triggered m80
What
what an idiot
How are we being “faggots”
anywho
That’s gonna land you a nice mute lmao
going thru the log, these things you said, they're not happening
dont even care, ive been here for so long and seen the stupid shit which goes on here
then leave
Envenoms in TB?
you're getting like
👋
1 in
You wanna aim for like 3
I think I have 1 where I only have 1 TB when the boss is not going away.
Specially with argus buffs
what is this opener 
I can’t look through the logs rn
I've just gone through them all
the vast majority is either 2 or 3.
Post m logs
If you wanna know why you can’t parse in M
Maybe it’s mechanics, maybe it’s slower kill time, maybe it’s the tactic you do
So many things
i'm seeing 2 with only 1 in it so far
For example, I can’t log imonar cuz our bridge is fucking slow
but
@shrewd oriole ' forget about the parsing
looking closer, you're losing a lot of env buff uptime in kb
your relics could use some fine tuning too, playing poison with gushing wounds isn't optimal
Ok
Why is there a zoom on the log
How much do you sim dialla?
do you want that part?
That’s not that low
Well my gear is what it is atm.
It's weird, because Imonar is the one fight I have been parsing well on lately.
But not much else.
another thing with the parse you're proud of on normal
look at the other dps in the group
they're terrible
@scarlet hawk https://goo.gl/F5ZKnE there, you can zoom in on kingsbane by yourself and check your uptimes
True
That too
I have rank 20 or whatever on argus heroic
Cuz half the group is being carried
So our execute is ages long
Lmao
yeah same with this log lol
Anyone of you in warrior discord?
Lmao
really skewed
Most recent Imonar
cool the fact that other people being bad isn't what he's asking about re: what he's doing wrong
How long is your bridge Nira?
Idk
I'm just trying not to die
Hold the fuck up
Can you not ignore me please
meme some more, stupid cliquuy bullshit
Why do you vandetta before garrote?
cliquey*
i like how this guy is chirping us, but the best detail he's gone into is looking at the summary page
@spare cloud cds are on gcd 
toph let me ask you something
@spare cloud what’s wrong with the rogue discord
what day is it tomorrow
not rogue
Warrior*
Link
O someone actually uses ven first global
Sunday
Btw that opener on Argus I didn't have vanish up for the pull, that's why it's delayed.
Is that bad Weak?
Sunday
no
what a mongo
Im just surprised
I read that it was good
it's april fools day
People seem to hate on it
Its also sunday
you're sunday
April’s fools 
Not my fault you don't know the day of the week
well where i live
but only some special name for this special sunday
Yes and april fools is a sunday this year
even discord did some weird shit today
I just don't like the overcapping with vend out of stealth 
I know its april fools
then why are you surprised
still weird to do smth like this though
Elvui april fools gonna be annoying as well
I hope its not the same hello kitty shit they did the last few years
dbms was annoying as fuck too
My dk is reay
not updating addons today
ready
do you still play RA
which class should I equip now
No
but after discord ra is better until you get 4pc
I just followed what discord said 🤷
1.5m now

I looted so hard
@spare cloud left my discord 
Yeah because nobody was writing in there
cuz its german only
and boots
lul
Hmm
Bracers are just waiting for the legendary
its bis anyways
so im gonna get it first
havent gotten a legendary yet
except argus one
Game of thrones

Nah. I don’t feel that one
I heard arcano is good for frost
huh?
does rogue have a google docs spreadsheet?
For what?
For what?
i assume it's because of the lack of bracers
Armory stats are always fucked
someone link a 985 SSF plz
bracer bumps up mast a bit
Mizerok you're getting slower.
Yeah armory doesn't report things PERFECTLY.
keep the one up train movin
Armory seems to underreport everything.
it posts weapon haste not actual stat haste
also didn't think my crit was that low 
gathering storm
i do
like a spreadsheet where u can put ur stats into and it gives u a weight and what gems and food do for u and gear comparison and so on
If you are going to ask for a document showing BiS equipment, you are better off simming yourself and finding your correct stat weights.
Just use raidbots
If you are looking for stats use Raidbots.
most specs have spreasheets where u can see everything down to how much dps a single peice of gear does
If you are looking for Crucible Weights, check our HeroDamage page.
lol yes im a healer main
Yeah but raidbots is simpler
lol u got mew
but its retarded because you can just use raidbots
toph i personally track them so i don't cuck myself during high stacks
and its way faster
Dps is more straightforward than healing anyway
Yeah the healer spreadsheets make me giggle.
it can be a dps loss
DUMPLINGS > _>
frost dmg % boost
Ah okay
Fuck it. I’m boutta watch doctor strange again
and shattering strikes eats the 5 stacks
I got more trouble with
i have a WA that lights up FS at low stacks, but stops lighting it up at high stacks unless i only have 1 rune
having 100 rp and I got crit procc
while gathering storm
i dont know of I should use crit procc or fs
guide doesnt address it
especially during obliteration
but I run out of runes
yeah it's rare to run out
i generally do about 1 min into the fight
just pop ERW and keep going
And then I also looked at what guide says
and what apl does while simming
and its totally different
Hey guys, is ravenholdt ring only good for aoe, or is it good for st also?
like guide says pool for 3 runes + before gathering storm
and then apl just spams obliterate
lol
whenever it can
I pool because its easier to get used to
and I find it more consistent
but once I get used to the class ill probably just spam
because it doesnt matter of I pool, if I dont get any proccs then Im out of runes after 2 obliterates anyways
i probably should pool later in the fight tbh
end up resource starved eventually and my dps drops
I fucked up complete guild discord
gonna be a fun day
not at the point where I think about optimizing gameplay yet
Anyways
I still cant decide which char I should gear next
what do you have
monk dh or shaman
hm
i find dh to be 
so is monk and dh
sham is fun to heal on
I only melee
I mean I offtank or heal from time to time
enh is idk
when I have to
soooo dependent on ss procs
Jesus Christ this is so good
idk just go fotm ♿ monk
I dont care about whats good now
of those 3 i feel monk has the most "fun" and "interesting" gameplay
Monk is cool

Monk is good rn cuz it got over buffed
its either too op or too weak
if you tweak numbers you would have to tweak them so hard
and considering that all st abilities monk uses have an effect on aoe output
The big problem
Is their exponential aoe
Exactly lol
It’s the same problem with blade flurry
Its either make them complete shit in st to have balanced aoe
or have good st and make their aoe insane
it feels like there is no between
unless major changes happen
which wont because its last patch before expansion
But you know what would befun
if they released a major patch right before mdi regionals
the outrage would be hilarious
I still think monk is not an easy class to play well though
compared to the other melees
@gusty kestrel it’s not just broken set
Check sims for monks with no tier
At 870 gear
Legit they sim insanely high
It was the 15% aura Buff
My monk has 850
How much does it sim
sec
Monks are fucking busted
probably rigged though
Turns out giving a class 15% MORE damage is PRETTY GOOD
it has like the best gear you could have
right in the beginning of the expansio
thats 850
Yeh my monks gear though
But the fury class design is fucking erarded
lul
the bracers just dont translate
back when that was many traits
Okay I take it all back
look at that
compared to that warrior discord is genius comedy
fucking rets
I'm never gonna play this class
Egg
Wtf
That’s amazing
I wish our mods were funny

It might be the alcohol talking but that shit is ducking hilarious
April fools tom banned
the chat is 2 mins behind
in warr discord
errr pally discord
100% chance that shit crashes
i do like the new pic they used tho
where the head of the hammer is a calculator
👌
Is gathering storm just a buff which stacks?
yes
this is dk discord now
league 
henlo friends! it me, your favorite boio


anyone watched the titan yet
Ok I think my weakauras for dk are done
You know what I enjoy the most as dk
flying in order hall
mobility

that is great yeah
is it me or does toph get more koreaboo'esque each day? 
does he talk korean yet? 
not bad
nice discord changes @dire spoke having aggramar as a picture is a little mean but "hall of schnitzel" is solid
Yeah
He was already full koreaboo
No I dont speak korean fluently
@manic vigil 
Would also like to speak japanese
Senpai...
fair enough
the language is legit awesome for singing 🤷

Sounds way better than english
Anyone have a weakaura for announcing Poison Bomb?
you gonna sing? 
don't be the guy spamming chat with your poison bomb man
Whats the fastest way to level 100-110
I... should make a troll PBomb WA > _>
please don't
-- MOVE THE BOSS --

Just
Every time you get a good pull
Make sure to shout it down the discord
I HAVE A GOOD PULL
😄
POISON BOMB BABY
-- Poison Bomb Faded --
yeah you really should be THAT guy
as loudly and as obnoxiously as possible
haha
Everyone will love you
Anyone wants to boost my monk normal and hc tomorrow?
awesome, thanks guys
No problem
The most helpful discord of the 7 kingdoms

Even the...
giggle is here
I ain’t a drake ass nigga
wings macros are annoying.
I can feel it
and they hit that like, TWICE.
remember the BAM addon back in the day? we need to recreate it
Macros that say something in chat
Gigglelurk
Giggle is the least subtle person in RH
† ----- DEUS VULT ----- †
Shes a 400 pound black man

@manic vigil I have a John cena tuturutu during SHD wa
omg that is great as well
He likes to get pounded by 400 pound black men
Cuz SHD = shadows stealth = you can’t see me
Should I download that sick animation weakaura set for monk
📯 📯 📯

!mute @shrewd oriole
bahahaha
told you
🔨

it's magic
the bot didn't even confirm
how did giggle do it
I'm scared
please, hold me
it assigns a rank now idk why the bot didnt confirm it
I like the ranking assignment though.
why mute tom though
play around with the bot
free tom
nasty
because he said a not nice thing
Oh he said the r word
or is it?! 
didnt see
yeah he deleted it rather quickly
Not deleted.
Doublemute Tom
good old tom, you gotta love him tho
you're missing out
not my thing though
being into tom is like being into clooney or pitt. doesn't really count as being gay
right
who
Why are you all fanboying gingi so hard
who was that again? the method hunter dude
I saw his instagram I dont think he's that hot
I mean he works out
but thats about it
Yeh but sco trains for mass
You just need to put a bit of force at the right position and his arms break themselves
No but I hang out with bad people.

Mize = nurse confirmed
Do you jerk off patients?
I wouldn't call them patients.
Hello Ariana
Would you like to carry me through a normal raid?
Yeh but now its monk
Hmm

No
let's talk about more important matters
how do we get despots to talk to us?
never seen it before, only stjern to kick my ass
You know I'd carry you all the time
the key to victory is to become friends with fiery
and then I will plant my own selection of shadowblades
and take over RH
it's gonna be glorious

I wouldnt want to be mod in this discord tbh
would have to ban all the people I talk to 🤷
I wouldnt ban you
you boosted me
I will never get mod here
so why be afraid
too toxic 🤷
that's cute
You're slowly turning into a second xaethron
toph
just fam
if you say so

I don't even know what that means 
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
that would be nasty af

@amber birch (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄) (Käpälä)
why do I sim highest with like 27% crit!! I hate having that low crit
what legendary setup do you guys prefer for m+ trash packs, shoulders+bracers or shoulders+cloak?
it's only worth shoulders+cloak if you have full stacks going in
and the pack won't last too long
The cloak sucks ass
it's alright for like, first pack with guaranteed 30stack
awesome, thanks for the info
especially if you vanish->gear swap after dumping
I didn't realize the cloak needed that much ramp up time
(obviously only vanishing once your initial mantle duration runs out
yeah it's 1min for 30stack
i'll have to try the gear swap during vanish
yeah i wouldnt use cloak as sin. its great for sub tho
@spare cloud what?
I just announced on our guild discord that we merge with an utterly shit guild, to fix our roster problem

Why don’t you leave lol
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
I also made new channel names https://snag.gy/9TsNIB.jpg
and a random rogue not even in guild is guild master now
obviousity intensifies
Dw Zempai, he will respect your clickiness and give you GM
does TB buff the damage of envenom?
You can read up spells and check affected on wowhead http://www.wowhead.com/spell=245389/toxic-blade
ahh ty
is it worth overcapping CP to TB into envenom?
or is the idea that i should be pooling for TB and dump CP before it
You mean you have 5CP and TB is ready?
anyone know if windscar whetstone 940+socket is better than 930 glaives for assassination rogue on m+?
Hey guys, I'm having trouble on AOE in M+'s, anyone got tips? Currently I cross my fingers for poison bombs, but spam FOK and rupture as much as I can
Assassination most likely use mastery statsticks for m+ @modest wigeon you could simulate a 6-boss 1 min (or less) fight on raidbots.com
@dire spoke for ST i use pantheon + fang/ aoe = glaives + pantheon
On low keys and/or tyrannical weeks you usually don't rupture more than 2 adds because they don't even live that long @strange python
if glaives on cd, i change it for fang even on aoe
10/10
Minesweeper is a retarded ass fucking game
The number of fucking times I've had to guess on a mine simply cause the game gave too many possibilities is too damn much
that's why there is herodamage to help figure out
I have weakauras to see what grey fields aren't hard to solve
You can't possibly be good at the game if you need an addon
it's just easier to avoid the spots with too many possibilities and that you can work around them

that's what mine looks like, you see the weakaura giving me green dots on rather safe spots to play https://snag.gy/VYGIHs.jpg
but you need linux for that
Damn. I never woulda known
So, for anyone that's done the Mythic Imonar fight. Have any of you heard of the strat "Don't use warlock gates because they make the bridge harder" strat?
?
Also I dunno about your targetability while in the gateways.
dh pally rogue can trigger shit while raid stands in spiritlink
you also can use that speedypotion
@placid egret We use a gateway on red crossings after the tank clears that part of the bridge.
It’s too finicky on green crossings, if you clip a mine it could launch you off the side.
Yeah
We use two gateways, stuff infront the gate will be taken from tanks - then rogue enters first one to mid - dh charges to mid and uses second gate to end
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
So Discord, for April Fools.
Should increase the Global Size Scale of the program by like, .4
So everything looks juuuuuuuuust a little weird.
we had 2 ports and a 3rd replacement one if a lock died. But the raid claimed its factually too hard and a bad thing to use them
so we stopped


HmMMMMmmmm NAH -
Eww
man AR+BT the spam
new patch notes bois https://snag.gy/2CkWUQ.jpg
thank god RH channels are still the same names
Rofl @ 3 cp
Big fan of Elvui myself
Very nice.
These low ilvl raidleads
I mean, if you open your carry group I at least be happy when they enchant their shit
like 945+

Because you have passion for what you do
lol the resto shaman note was the best one
To better differentiate between the Shaman and Druid healing specs, Restoration Shaman has been renamed "Ocean Shaman." We believe this new spec identity will take healing Shaman by the hand and lead them to the land that they understand.
I enjoyed the Aspect of the Eagle note.
Warcraft logs omg
Was checking to see if it detected my realm/name change to Tich.
lmfao
They even changed past tiers too
is there a reason as to why we used tb before kb in the opener
Because it's better.









