avoid and socket. wut
#assassination
lone junco
robust light
yup
lone junco
only thing better would be specced Sin.
robust light
im buildingmy sin set dont worry
need t21
that helm is 4pc
so i can go sin now i think
paper mural
Guys, where does our T21 belt drop from?
I've never gotten it, nor the helmet from heroic Ant?
hazy flame
Portal
tiny vapor
Hey guys, getting some dumb error with ToT, I want to ToT the tank and it keeps saying "Invalid target"
drifting crypt
cause he is on his mount
sour wraith
they might have the neural silencer on
drifting crypt
cant tricks mounted targets
tiny vapor
Yeah but I told him to leave his mount and its still bugging
It was the Neutral Silencer
Thanks !
lone junco
.. i wonder if that is what was breaking my macro. fucking swapblasters
tiny vapor
Probably yeah
zealous dew
avoidance π
vapid moth
Just realized an all rogue raid is technically already possible
gilded lark
dire spoke
solid nova
I told you to sell drugs, not smoke your own supply π
spare cloud
π
dire spoke
zealous dew
dead cennel, ded spec, ded class, ded game, ded market, ded indie company
solid nova
Im a busy boy on weekends sorry
@spare cloud π
@dire spoke β in advance for tomorrow
Okay bye xoxo
robust light
i wasnted to confrim that before i asked next q lol
when is best to use the vanish without shoulders
rupture?
gilded lark
yes
solid nova
@gusty kestrel I stopped a long time ago - I'm a good boy now
I just want Xaethron to have options when he fails college thats all
echo estuary
where is TOPH
robust light
ive make my own weak aura for tracking bleeds etc, but how can i make the text show as a different colour if the garrote is buffed by subterfuge?
what condition would that come under?
solid nova
@gusty kestrel I take your Bunny and raise you doggo
gilded lark
@robust light i'd ask WA discord, seems the nerd squad are busy
robust light
ah okay ty
gilded lark
could also just add an icon to it to show that it's buffed, if that's easier
pawkets feral WA is a good example of that, adds a box in the corner depending on whats buffing the bleed
robust light
right ill have a look at those. ty
gilded lark
i mean it only works for feral ofc but
you can likely copy it and just change the buff around
robust light
yeah
spare cloud
Your profile picture though
wise frigate
They should be able to. Someone there helped me with a Superslice WA so I imagine it's similar in execution.
echo estuary
TOPH with new korean teen
robust light
what about it? π
civic palm
π
gaunt moat
i survived passover dinner. nothing can stop me now.
echo estuary
who doesnt xd
gilded lark
ima be beautiful forever
civic palm
Anime time-reversion hits @ 50 and their souls are drained by the demons their ancestors made their deals with.
gilded lark
echo estuary
cant be that bad TOPH
gilded lark
never be disappointed
echo estuary
its the inside that counts Kappa
gilded lark
you got ripped off
spare cloud
civic palm
New Album Name : Relatively Big Dick
gilded lark
it's a holiday so
echo estuary
just do maths always works
spare cloud
I dont even have classes right now
echo estuary
even more reasons to do maths :>
spare cloud
No
echo estuary
some differential geometry for TOPH
Find the number of non-isomorphic geometric objects obtained by cutting out a MΓΆbius strip while remaining parallel on its board and describe them.
spare cloud
marble hemlock
27 cos tyrannical, im scared
halcyon trail
Is there any of the leggoes for assass that is really fkn shiit?
or are there just better ones
halcyon trail
(i've only played rogue for 3 days)
gilded lark
rest shouldn't really be considered
halcyon trail
i mean like kil'jaiden is shiit i guess
gilded lark
yes
halcyon trail
which are the good ones
gilded lark
pins
halcyon trail
have the argus ring and shoulders
gilded lark
go read
halcyon trail
ty for the help
solid nova
Meanwhile, 3 days played on my alt got 7 leggos and no shoulders
halcyon trail
i got it on my first day
i think i have like 8 hours of playing time or something
10 maybe more accurate
solid nova
Spicy
solid nova
Leveling my hunter
solid nova
Nothing else to do fam
solid nova
Might just boost it to 110
2 rogues, dh and warrior up to date so might as well make something else
Or can farm upper for a fat EoC
Too late for effort
civic palm
New CP/NRG layout π - https://i.imgur.com/JIJc6Qn.gifv
I hate imgur compression > _>
dire spoke
HMMMMMM
civic palm
haha
dire spoke
I get what you want to achieve but what are they indicating? the 100 nrg is for pooling
civic palm
35 55, sparks demarcate those breakpoints along with bar color change.
The GIF isn't perfect in showing that.
dire spoke
hmmmmm
civic palm
hmm?
dire spoke
wasn't that your idea with the colored border?
civic palm
Sure was.
gilded lark
civic palm
I don't make everything for myself π
dire spoke
echo estuary
We need richard TOPH tom and flowi what is this
dire spoke
I'm happy with what I saw from you and made out of it
civic palm
π
civic palm
It was more done like the checkmark WA I made as well.
Just an idea.
Though the background duration tracker is pretty slick.
As it looks like some kind of border that isn't possible normally.
dire spoke
βπ» hacks βπ»
civic palm
I mean even the transparent energy bar is a tiny hack, as the normal bar you make can't really look like that.
civic palm
Too noisy.
dire spoke
sure
civic palm
and uses A LOT of custom coding that I don't know.
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
All my shit is hella basic.
dire spoke
most good UI is minimalistic and on point
aswell sorted
like Android uses just small animations that give you visual hints of what is happening
what is it Tisu 0:
I have no interest in OW D: but did you know men have 10% more red blood cells than women
I will always remind you of it β€
civic palm
ha
hazy iron
lmfao
civic palm
Some strong inspiration there, for sure.
I take a lot of inspiration from Dan Cook's old work as well.
As an example of how not to be funny.
dire spoke
it's simple stuff that ppl can relate to
carlin did that too but just more clever
add a bit timing in speech
boom
comedy
strange python
what do u guys think about sin in next expansion π
haste affects bleeds and poisons π
civic palm
WHY THE FACE?!
dire spoke
π
open yew
that seems like it implies more than just smile
like he was mocking with that face, strange choice for wording on that emote
spare cloud
He's clearly superior to us and is rubbing it into our face
dense blaze
What spec do I play on alpha?
dire spoke
yes
spare cloud
Question
gilded lark
Answer
spare cloud
Thanks
gilded lark
hazy tendon
Anyone have a particularly good weak aura for assassination?
spare cloud
Make them yourself and they are the best you can have
Otherwise check the Guide for Notters Weakauras
also Wago.io has many weakauras
dire spoke
I have the best
but they're mine
I shared a raid ui twitch clip with a recruiter
and was live in heroic at the same time playing like shit
rip my bfa world ranks
gilded lark
π
robust light
does anyone here have a weak aura tracking garrote with text that changes colour if its a buffed subterfuge garrote?
gilded lark
crimson knoll
@robust light Look up Nattle on YouTube. He links his WA suite on some of his vids.
gilded lark
crimson knoll
It has garrote and rupture with timers that change colors for buffed and pandemic
lone junco
Oy
light jacinth
π
magic laurel
On mythic high command, is it worth putting rupture in the adds if they are getting zerged?
shrewd oriole
No
magic laurel
Thanks
gilded lark
holiday
vapid moth
Thanks for making me feel lonely broad
dire spoke
yeah, don't hate me pls
short token
177% mastery, would you guys continue to gem for mast? if not what would you go for?
civic palm
What does the SIM tell you your highest weighted stat is?
short token
not sure, is there an addon that sims? is it a website? i don't see it on the guide i only see a trinket and relic sim on the pinned
gaunt moat
@short token FAQ section in guide has that information
dense blaze
You have only just begun to get mastery
short token
ty
polar light
Lol wtf
worn cradle
Hey, guys Iβm new to World of Warcraft and to assassination what are the basics I should know.
supple hearth
all you should know is pins are in the top right and every channel has them
ez win tbh
worn cradle
I mean in WoW
hazy iron
tfw your crit is so low, that the leggo head sims higher than bracers
shrewd grail
hi guys for legendaries waht is better, shoulders + bracers or shoulder + vigor ring
solid nova
Simming the combinations will get you an accurate result however with progress fights you'll get a lot of benefit from the bracers as you'll generally have a longer execute phase
I imagine bracers would come out on top in both scenarios though
shrewd grail
thanks dude
zinc zephyr
which relic combos should I aim for? (poison build)
I currently have 7x Mastery alchemist rank, 6x Master assassin rank, 5x serrated edge
is 7x master alchemist + 7x master assassin the best?
halcyon trail
Sorry for such a stupid question but what are the main stats for assa?
like which % should i aim for
amber sleet
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
halcyon trail
ty
amber sleet
np
tepid ridge
is this kinda "decent"? I'm looking for a guild and I would love to have feedback on what to do to improve myself. (started wow mid ToS don't be arsch :p )
(ps : I would take any good advices from / for everything)
shrewd oriole
Good morning
tepid ridge
good morning
fallow estuary
How to use FoK Singletarget with 1x relic? π€
Some say you don't
some say you do 4-5 cp during KB
some say 4-5 allways
some say 3->4
im so confused :c
marble hemlock
its most likely not worth using fok for singletarget at all with just 1 pk relic
im using 3, and its only a 25-30k dps gain for me to fok at 3+ CP to get a 4+ finisher
fallow estuary
i've found personally that its nice to go from 4->5cp during KB
marble hemlock
it might be worth with 2, i dont think it is with 1
fallow estuary
esp. for that 5 second left 5cp finisher
marble hemlock
well
keep in mind that fok can also generate 2 CP on singletarget when it crits, so foking at 4+ may still lose you some resources
and it doesnt matter with how many CP you finish with envenom during KB, its TB where it might be viable
for KB you just want 100% envenom uptime during its duration
frank sentinel
there's some high parsing memers who fok always at 3+cp even with no pk relics. while not a gain, some like it just because it "feels" efficient.
fallow estuary
Ofcourse envenom is important but the last 5 seconds i think that a 5cp SoT is more important than 1 cp that might be lost
marble hemlock
SoT is always 5 seconds
fallow estuary
But not allways the same strenght
marble hemlock
same as VP is always 6
foggy briar
Hey guys, does anyone have a list of the "top 5" legendarys for assassination? Im confused because many ressources tell different stories. need to determine which are the best so I can chose my gear accordingly :d
shrewd oriole
Head insignia boots bracers shoulders @foggy briar
marble hemlock
the top5 best legendaries are the ones you sim yourself and see which ones are best
there no definitive list which one is better than others, if you want to know which 5 are generally better than the rest, tom just mentioned 5
and regarding the KB issue, you can write a few lines into the APL that makes you fok at 4+ to reach 5cp during envenom
so far either noone bothered doing that, or someone did and it turned out to not be worth it
foggy briar
kk thanks @shrewd oriole and @marble hemlock
fallow estuary
Its nothing you could solve with simc i believe if you don't want to spend to much time - you'd basicly have to tell the APL to FoK 4->5 cp IF you get a 5 instead of 4 cp envenom 5 seconds left into kingsbane
if you know what i mean
but yea
i believe theres no easy answer to it
thanks for your input tho β€ Helped me out! π
marble hemlock
with the legendaries, if you have any 2 of those 5 they should perform better than all the others, but which ones are actually best for you depends a lot on what gear you have available, relic-traits etc.
i mean
thats pretty much the easy answer right there ^^
writing a line of code that simulates that specific behaviour isnt rock science
foggy briar
I have all of the mentioned legendaries minus the shoulders :D
will check that sim stuff out
marble hemlock
yeah, definitely sim then
fallow estuary
It wont be "a" line of code since its pretty specific don't you think?
because the APL usually doesn't pool/wait to get a 5 CP finisher at the end
also
marble hemlock
depending on what non-legendary pieces you have on the other 4 slots, one combination is going to turn out a winner
fallow estuary
it doesn't stop using finisher during the last 5 seconds if it can get off a 4cp rup/envenom
Which overrides the SoT buff
making it useless
marble hemlock
just keep in mind that difference of like 5-10k dps fall into the margin of error, so at that point i suggest you using whatever legendary you feel most comfortable playing around
fallow estuary
Also - because the difference would be extremly minor
marble hemlock
yes, thats really the crux of the situation
marble hemlock
i dont expect a significant gain to be had there
marble hemlock
maybe a minor loss
i still delay TB to line up with the last 9secs of KB for example, even though its a minor loss, it just feels "right"
and your overall performance is going to be better with something that isnt uncomfortable for you to play
fallow estuary
its still confusing - my best rogue buddie parsed rank 1 on 2 ST fights spamming fok like a retard without a single fok relic π
his gear is about the same as mine so its irritating
marble hemlock
was that more recent
fallow estuary
1 or 2 weeks ago
shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
or back when there was a few bugs around
shrewd oriole
Is a hell of a thing
fallow estuary
Yea ofcourse he had alot of bombs
marble hemlock
id like to see that parse
fallow estuary
lemme get it
its only rank 2 now but still
ah only 13 casts on this - hes got some more on other kills
but still
0 fok relics
still foking like every 4-5 cp cast
frank sentinel
almost 18% yowza
marble hemlock
yeah
fallow estuary
and outperforming me :c
fallow estuary
its heroic
amber sleet
was Hc
fallow estuary
m8
marble hemlock
thats some heavy pb rng, not to mention a fairly high envenom and tb critrate
echo estuary
only rank 2 boys
fallow estuary
hes fully into crit so thats nothing unusual
hes got 13% more crit than me simming the same π
marble hemlock
50/57% crit respectively is still above average
fallow estuary
his other rank1 log is aggramar
also spamming fok without relics and no adds
he ALLWAYS does it
its so irritating :<
fallow estuary
idc about difficulty in this case tbh - the more patchwork the better
shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
difficulty does matter though
his ilvl is fairly high, hes gonna perform better on fights that generally have less people competing for the topspots on that difficulty
fallow estuary
if you want to put difficulty into it then it only favours the FoK gameplay since you can hit fok from pretty far away and the boss can't parry it if you face him.
shrewd oriole
Itβs not patchwerk tho
Heβs got like 50M damage done to adds
Lmao
Also
What seliathan said
The amount of rogues at his ilvl running normal
Is pretty small compared to heroic and specially mythic
fallow estuary
Yeah maybe im just despretly looking for a reason why he outperforms me
frank sentinel
here's a guy i know foks at 4+cp https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rmgZqcQNB4ATdzxL#fight=4&type=damage-done
fallow estuary
we've been rivals ever since wod
and whiles hes like my best buddy
i dislike seeing him above me π
fallow estuary
i got 1x aswell - thats where the conversation started
because many ppl claim you shouldnt use it all
while some fok 4->5cp
and some 3->4cp
fallow estuary
i don't even understand why my logs are so terrible this raidtier -_-
shrewd oriole
P sure with 1 relic it sims higher to fok at 3
amber sleet
Yes it does
shrewd oriole
So I donβt think people say you shouldnβt do it
amber sleet
That's the only reason i do it lol
fallow estuary
i feel like doing stuff right but i can't compete for any top spots anymore - getting top 100 with luck...
shrewd oriole
I mean
fallow estuary
scroll up - first reactionw as to not fok at all with 1 relic
marble hemlock
one thing is for sure, whether you fok or not at 3+ or 4+ during KB, its not what is gonna make you do toplogs all of a sudden
its a minor gain, if any
amber sleet
^
shrewd oriole
Every time he parses high link him CE
fallow estuary
π
shrewd oriole
amber sleet
What do you sim Easy?
fallow estuary
lemme check
haven't sim myself in a few weeks | gonna get online quick
but should be around 2.5M
amber sleet
Alright
marble hemlock
thats probably with penthon trinkets
without trinkets hitting 2.4 already requires pretty insane gear
fallow estuary
my gear is indeed kinda decent
but we'll see forsure in about a minute
when my pc finally woke up
shrewd oriole
Thereβs no way you sim 2.5 lol
fallow estuary
was just an estimate
shrewd oriole
19 pantheon 3 minutes 
fallow estuary
lemme check
turbid harbor
i only just hit 2.3
fallow estuary
i had full pantheons
spare cloud
Yeah simming 2,4 without pantheon trinket
fallow estuary
at my last sim
shrewd oriole
2.3 is big boy
spare cloud
who does that π€
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
tom have you seen what my dk got on the normal carry yesterday
it was freshly boosted
spare cloud
Its higher than the best on my rogue
shrewd oriole
I mean your rogue has gotten several mythic carries
spare cloud
Give me some recommendations, its my birthday on monday and my dad is cooking what I want
shrewd oriole
How does it not have a 960 dogos
spare cloud
I bonusrolled 5 items from the boss
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
not 1 trinket
turbid harbor
i have killed and coined mythic dogs 12 times
shrewd oriole
Classical
turbid harbor
no trinket
spare cloud
GUYS
shrewd oriole
I got a965 on 1st week
spare cloud
birthday food recommendations
turbid harbor
i use 940 eoc
fallow estuary
Boooring
spare cloud
I have eaten steak this week already
amber sleet
π€
shrewd oriole
Itβs really good
amber sleet
black
spare cloud
I dont like anything that comes out of the ocean
amber sleet
spaghetti?
spare cloud
except classic fish
spare cloud
But that got me an idea though
I could get classic fish
fresh fish with lemon and potatoes
shrewd oriole
Fish is dope
You could get some sausage
Man whenever I travel I feel really short
Feels bad man
spare cloud
I think I'll get that
fuck me man stores are closed tomorrow and monday
can't get fresh fish today and keep it for 2 days
unlucky
shrewd oriole
Rip
echo estuary
wait TOPH is red now
spare cloud
Are you on EU?
echo estuary
do your homework
spare cloud
Come boost my dk HC then
echo estuary
you always have homework π¦
fallow estuary
π€ Nah π
spare cloud
Why not
fallow estuary
i bet u r Horde
spare cloud
I am
spare cloud
trans really quick
fallow estuary
Once voidelf, allways voidelf
sorry m8
ANYWAY
back to the question
Zelda or M+?
spare cloud
I agree
echo estuary
wait what zelda still a thing? i played it back in 96 or something
spare cloud
Yes
zealous dew
i can only find group as healer
spare cloud
lol
heavy plover
Off-topic question, but is dungeons the quickest way to 100 again?
heavy plover
That's why i said off topic, i don't think the mods mind if asked questions like this before. Sorry if they do
zealous dew
it's faster to quest
i'm leveling a 2nd rogue and takes forever to do a dungeon
not to mention the queue
spare cloud
Thats fair
I still wouldnt play another of the same class though
would flipp me the fuck out without g ear
heavy plover
I just want a void elf at 110 feelsbadman
heavy plover
nah saving my boost for BFA, seems smart
spare cloud
True
heavy plover
i wish they'd release the prepatch already, 0 content atm except for raid days
spare cloud
That doesnt change with prepatch as well O.O
echo estuary
hello TOPH
spare cloud
Hello
echo estuary
why you red
spare cloud
I dont know
heavy plover
yeah but atleast prepatch gives a lil bit of content, change of classes/spells etc
echo estuary
join team white
echo estuary
white lives matter, you know
echo estuary
for the added privilege
spare cloud
Oh boy
sick cradle
Is shadowcraft a good tool to check things like stat weights and dps?
scarlet hawk
You guys just run balanced blades in bleed spec, alongside 3v?
sick cradle
Or is it just all about simcraft
scarlet hawk
And wtf is wrong with the dual target relic Sims for bleed?
@sick cradle personally I only use simc and have no idea what shadowcraft offers that simc don't.
sick cradle
Well, i like it better than simcraft for testing which talents are best, since it's faster in shadowcraft
But I've noticed that you don't swap talents as much as assa as with sub
sick cradle
not on a boss to boss basis, but with gear changes you did
scarlet hawk
Only swap I ever do is between elusiveness and cheat death :p
marble hemlock
anyway, im not entirely sure how accurate the shadowcraft modeling is nowadays, it used to tbe the go-to place in previous expansions but it suffered quite a bit when a lot of people left the project/wow
rip aldriana π¦
scarlet hawk
Either way raidbots is great and all you need is the simc addon to export the string in-game. And then if you need to change talents you just change it in the string
sick cradle
Aight, I'll just keep using raidbots then ^^
scarlet hawk
What I would like to see in raidbots however, is the top gear option sim only specific sets of gear together with talents.
Maybe you can already do that in the gear compare option.
sick cradle
no, don't think you can
wise frigate
You would have to do that manually by combining a gear compare with the desired set and talent compare with the desired talents, and putting it all into an advanced. You would have to set up a separate entry in the advanced sim for every combo though so it's kind of tedious.
Just be sure, if you're doing that, that your initial gear compare is built via a SimC addon input and not armory. I've had issues lately with the Advanced not pulling the cached Crucible data when I imported my character via Armory.
queen pawn
Can anyone tell me please the min cap for Mastery and crit?
wise frigate
1%
scarlet hawk
That's what I've been doing the last few days. But an option to combine both the gear compare, relic compare and talents compare.
zealous dew
scarlet hawk
Usually it does make much sense simulating one talent against another in the same gear.
zealous dew
is this a joke ?
vapid moth
Oh good. All dps comps are becoming a thing
drifting cloud
just need maw with no healer now ez π€
scarlet hawk
@queen pawn I take it your playing poison spec? There's not a minimum. It all depends on what your comparing it to. You just want as much mastery as possible
queen pawn
yes poison thanks a lot
i was playing Sub, then tried outlaw but not enjoyed it much. Now i'm haveing fun in Assa so need to gear up a bit! thanks a lot
solid nova
@zealous dew MDI healers obsolete lul
steep obsidian
huh?
oh
i get it now
they wont run comps like that in actual races though because its too risky? but yeah the qualifying is a bit dumb
i don't think they should have to run a dungeon hundreds of times trying tog et a perfect pull and execution
but how else do ya do it
lone junco
Prob for fun at least.
marble hemlock
wow
that 4dps nelth
is kinda of insane
explains why i saw them all playing dwarf earlier, stoneform for 3rd boss
lethal heart
still no idea how they pulled that off though
because its grievous
so thats sketchy
dh can selfsustain himself
rogue was playing leeching poison i guess xd ?
but it says he was sub though
i guess healthstones being big aswell
zealous dew
doesn't shadow have some healing stuff when they dance ?
zealous dew
ah k
lethal heart
it's like only during stealth/shadow dance
and you dont have much shadow dance uptime tbh
drifting cloud
ez pants
zealous dew
pants π
lethal heart
memepants
tepid ridge
hi guys I need to improve on my vanish timing, should I delay to wait vendetta 100% of the time I'm not sure about it
lethal heart
if shoulders then yea
zealous dew
yep
lethal heart
always line up vendetta with vanish
lethal heart
when going into vanish 'state' you wanna have already tb/kb on target you meran that?
zealous dew
with 0 MA i get vendetta and tb kb ready
no clue with more, i play PK
for m+
i think nobe had a spreadsheet about timings
lethal heart
yea thats what i dont like about assa
would need to play Pk
and then its kind of a big difference for st when you dont have Massa/Malch
lethal heart
i have 3 pk relics in my bags, mostly pk + malch and it's like -70k for me (because tier 2 is kind of good on my c urrent ones)
marble hemlock
last i simmed it was 38k difference for me
lethal heart
i have 2x 500 flat mastery on my current assa relics
marble hemlock
i did use the apl that used fok at 3+ CP though, which is a ~20k gain over the regular rotation for me
so that offsets it a bit
zealous dew
let me check
marble hemlock
belt on odyn, helm on singletarget if i dont have vanish on pull (sims highest for me), cloak on spiders after first boss brh
marble hemlock
its really only good for me because i got high shoulders/bracers
marble hemlock
otherwise youll mostly stick to bracer+boots for bosses where you dont have vanish ready on pull
lethal heart
what is it for trash
marble hemlock
and default to mantle+bracers for where you have it, unless you need boots to get more favourable cd timings for vendetta like on curator
mantle+bracer
lethal heart
mostly mantle bracers?
marble hemlock
vanish into bomb
marble hemlock
and yeah, can switch into cloak if you have a longer downtime and small mobs are coming up
i.e. spoders after brh 1st boss
lethal heart
sometimes people want me to play assa because no slowring
but i dont think im playing good as assa rogue
but i was thinking
that ww/moonkin/assa rogue
is top tier comp
actually top tier
marble hemlock
its not that hard to be honest, harder than in raid obviously
but it really only plays like a shadowpriest
multidot a bit
lethal heart
boomie/ww provide so much aoe that you dont need to do it really
marble hemlock
then spam your one aoe skill
marble hemlock
well, boomy/ww also do more singletarget than you π
lethal heart
maybe focus with vendetta on big target
lethal heart
how do you actually play stuff like 1st boss nelth or curator
marble hemlock
damage on packs that only have 2-4 mobs is really great due to low-cd cooldowns
lethal heart
do you try rupturing adds for energy refill?
or depends on your comp how hard do you switch on them if ever
marble hemlock
stick on boss, mouseover rupture adds, fok as builder for when adds are up
marble hemlock
if the grp is struggling i switch into envenom on adds instead of boss
lethal heart
you do mouseover because eye of command i guess?
marble hemlock
mantle+boots on curator, that way you can pop vendetta on pull and have it back up for evo
yeah
lethal heart
yea
marble hemlock
7/7malch, 7/7pk
lethal heart
but makes perfect sense
other boss i think boots > wrists
probaly 1st boss coen
since no execute phase
and helya
lethal heart
yea cos obviously
marble hemlock
luura too
lethal heart
basically any boss without execute phase
marble hemlock
seat in general is a good boots dungeon
lethal heart
seat as sub feels miserable
marble hemlock
1st boss you odnt really have a good execute phase, youd rather have vendetta up more often
marble hemlock
timings are similar to curator, pop vendetta on pull, have it for first nuke phase
luura you want vendetta for both vulnerabilities, which is h ard to do without boots, at least without mass relics
zealous dew
monk is just fecking insane
marble hemlock
and since you do shit damage on tentacles, may aswell go boots on 3rd boss too and just kill the boss while the others handle the hentai
lethal heart
if you have people to carry you on tentacles
like boomie/warlock
it isnt that bad as rogue
marble hemlock
yup
lethal heart
you bring lots of cc
marble hemlock
sub is nice for blasting the adds
marble hemlock
yeah thats what i mean
lethal heart
oh though tentacles
marble hemlock
killing the shield adds on 3rd boss
lethal heart
like i'd dfa tentacles aswell
marble hemlock
cant do much as assa there
marble hemlock
definitely
i even do it as assa to help on shield-adds
its the only thing that can wipe you really
lethal heart
especially if tank is smart to move the boss near a tentacle
marble hemlock
seat is the only dungeon where i switch to sub at the start and respec after 1st pull
lethal heart
but literally after having some experience as monk in seat i just dont even wanna come back
marble hemlock
i mean
marble hemlock
monk in general is just making everyone feel inadequate and uncomfortable right now
lethal heart
FeelsBadMan
marble hemlock
now that people who rerolled late are finally getting all the legendaries
marble hemlock
monk is starting to become an issue
steep obsidian
monk has been pretty good all expac to be honest
tepid ridge
4 monk comp lol
lethal heart
idk i've been playing monk since late nh
steep obsidian
sub rogue has been carried by glaives since tos
lethal heart
as an alt
now obviously since its giga strong i play it a lot + end of the expansion
steep obsidian
they made monk tier stupid strong
but to be honest they in the same position dh was at release, top st top aoe stun
no reason to not stack if ya can get away with it
marble hemlock
yup
survivability used to be a big factor in highkeys atleast
but thats gone too
thanks to antorus trinkets
steep obsidian
nah i dont have a monk ive had a few friends who have played it all expac though
its always been decent in m+ damage wise
lethal heart
i mean just look at their main aoe
mark of crane
i feel like its either op
or up
marble hemlock
its largely dependant on you being able to build stacks
lethal heart
yea
marble hemlock
so if you have a lot of small stuff and get like 18+ stacks
its broken
if you cant, its really good, but not overpowered
i feel a lot of the dungeons have good trash design
and in most of them, people resort to just kiting to not have to deal with any of that
imagine nelth or hov if you had to deal with the mobs
monk wouldnt be able to put out numbers like they are right now, because you wouldnt be able to do 3-4packs at once
same for boomy/wl
classes which benefit the most from having more and more mobs
marble hemlock
most specs have a limit at which point their aoe capabilities hit a diminishing return, some classes dont, and monk actually gets more aoe the more mobs there are, so yeah π
tepid ridge
is this worth to switch from assa to sub for MM+ purposes?
steep obsidian
i remmber at the start of expac the artifact ability was completely broken
then they nerfed it to just be good
lethal heart
depending on grp comp
tepid ridge
I main assa but you know this PB...
warm parcel
Imagine unnerfed full moon
marble hemlock
depends on how high m+ you want to do
sub is really nice for lower keys (in my mind that is 15-20)
lethal heart
sub falls off once 25ish+
marble hemlock
once you hit 25+, sub needs the grp to play to its strengths in order to be able to compete, i.e. pulling trash with bosses, pulling low-hp mobs with high-hp ones to use the priority target damage etc.
lethal heart
no consistant aoe
marble hemlock
which means you will want to stack up with a wl, warrior and/or mm
and at that point they may aswell just dump your ass for a monk or boomy and have a t0 comp for 26+ π
in the mid-20s assa and sub perform quite similarly
with a few differences depending on dungeon
sub is better in cos, assa is better in upper, sub is better in eoa, assa is better in seat
stuff like that
lethal heart
and then there are weeks where you can pull trash with bosses
like bolster
like necrotic probably
marble hemlock
yeah
necrotic/bolstering are troublesome for sub
necrotic is fine on most bosses because the trash or mobs you pull into it can be kited
i.e.crabs in eoa, or dragons in dht
strange python
meh
they literally got rid of necrotic/tyrannical ever being a combination, because it was too hard
marble hemlock
not so sure about that yet
warm parcel
no
marble hemlock
feels to me like they got rid of necrotic the week they announced bfa, knowing less people would be playing the game during necrotic week
warm parcel
they made tyra not be the switch from easy mode to impossible for casuals
marble hemlock
and just switched it with volcanic last week
necrotic should be removed entirely anyway
lethal heart
marble hemlock
dumb mechanic
marble hemlock
or atleast make it like a stacking debuff on the entire grp, capped at 50 or 75%
lethal heart
on+4
scarlet hawk
Tyrannical and Fortified are going to be baseline in BfA no? How's that gonna work I wonder... Just being baked into the system increase from the start or?
lethal heart
than +25
marble hemlock
that slowly ramps up the more mobs you have
warm parcel
no
marble hemlock
i.e. take forever on a bossfight? get 50% dampening
lethal heart
how necrotic should work imo
is it should just force tanks to play more defensive gear
glass compass
So like no tier 3s at all?
lethal heart
like more defensive cd usage and stuff like that
marble hemlock
it shouldnt stack over 70 or 80%
lethal heart
yea
marble hemlock
so its more like dampening in arenas
lethal heart
or it shouldnt work on bosses
marble hemlock
and not just "youre dead if you take damage in the next 5 seconds"
lethal heart
only trash
glass compass
Ohhh
tepid ridge
so it's seems like not worth going for sub
lethal heart
any boss with adds + necro
is actually
impossible xd
you have to paly around that SO MUCH
tepid ridge
as a main assa
marble hemlock
again @tepid ridge it depends on what type of content you want to do
lethal heart
like kite them if you can/blast them asap
marble hemlock
wanna push high? have both available
lethal heart
and sometimes you cant even kite them
marble hemlock
if youre fine doing 15-20s, or even a few 22s/23s sometime
assa is perfectly fine
tepid ridge
that's what I'm doing most of the time @marble hemlock
marble hemlock
you may get declined by judgemental people because youre not sub, but you dont want to be in these kind of groups anyway so it basically filters out the bad apples automatically
tepid ridge
yup
tepid ridge
anyone got a wa for PB tracking like /s somthing or an icon
I farmed a bit tos it's a nightmare lol
marble hemlock
think theres one in the WAs posted in the pins
glass compass
Nor do u have to worry about dfa tossing u into shit
tepid ridge
I'm gonna check here then
tepid ridge
but you need decent rng on packs to deal aoe damages x)
lethal heart
yea
steep obsidian
yeh you can drop the circle fire aoe thing from the kingaroth adds mid air too
although sometimes it was annoyin like on miaden when youd drp the thing that needed to be soaked mid air
edgy steppe
what neck enchant should i use as assassination?
torn token
Soldier
jovial cedar
Question when dealing with 5+ targets, is it worth applying rupture on more than three targets? Especially if there are low health targets? Or is it better to evenom after having three ruptures applied?
torn token
With t21 you just need bleeds on one target
And spam fok envenom
Especially with 5+ targets
restive inlet
just got a 960 Eye of Command π which bosses should I not use it for? I imagine High Command and maybe portal keeper will make it annoying at least. I don't care about Eonar:P
lone junco
Eoc is fine if you just focus Boss. It only resets on auto attack.
sleek mason
Hey peeps. Does anyone have a Weakaura for announcing poison bomb procs?
lone junco
I don't use it. Good tanks know when to stop or move.
sleek mason
Let me know where to find those then π
strange python
I use one that tell me when i get one, wouldnt advise one that says it aloud
its has the opposite effect of what you want
sleek mason
Hmm yeah maybe.. I already have one that shows for myself
strange python
or in the worst case in raids it covers up someone elses message and can cuck your raid
supple hearth
Friendly reminder to auto kick rogues who spam announce pb. Awful habit.
torn token
Lol
supple hearth
Make a macro that whispers him for all of your abilities
steep obsidian
I mean I had a friend tank who actually wanted to know when I got a PB and thought a wa would be helpful in dungeons but yeah its just super annoying in any raid or pug
echo estuary
the green toxic pool aint enough?
echo estuary
didnt know, interesting
strange python
Ive got one that announces when premade m+ because we try and only call out kicks and cc's
steep obsidian
i wonder if theres a way to show it in raids without it being just too visually spammy
prolly not
strange python
but i turn it off/on
strange python
p sure you could make a WA for him to see you got a PB
steep obsidian
yeah i have one
strange python
via analyzing the combat log right?
torn token
Other ppl can see glaives? Im pretty sure they cant
steep obsidian
i thought you could
i konw i could see some trinket effects
but come to think of it you are right
supple hearth
Usually you don't see those things. Like the blademaster trinket in WoD the one that spins around and does aoe just showed the blademaster motionless. Nobody but the user saw the twirls
supple hearth
Depends on how long the live tho
steep obsidian
yeh thats right i def knew you could see the blademaster trinket
supple hearth
No point in rupturing 5+ if they are going. To die before the ticks take place
steep obsidian
its sorta better in bfa anyway with it only ticking 2x instead of 3 so i guess thats their fix for it
marble hemlock
[7:39 PM] Totally not wEak: Rupture is still the highest DPE for assa
[7:39 PM] Totally not wEak: no matter how many enemies