assassination

[echo estuary]

its basically a test to question wether you have mastered the basic operation mechanically

[spare cloud]

Thats so stupid

I dont even

[vapid moth]

It is

[echo estuary]

instead of actual understanding

[spare cloud]

WHY WAS I RENAMED

[vapid moth]

I hate school

[spare cloud]

I mean school is not supposed to be hard

So theres that

and I understand why its not supposed to be hard

dont wanna crush the hopes of the stupid kid

But thats just plain simple

[solid nova]

No Timmy you cant fly to the moon!

[vapid moth]

Yeah it shouldn't be hard. But it should be stimulating

You should get something out of it

[echo estuary]

because it is applied to a wide IQ spectrum, everyone within 2 standard deviations should be able to cope

[lone junco]

the testing or the school?

[vapid moth]

School

[solid nova]

If you're not in control of the subjects you learn then chances are there are going to be parts which aren't stimulating

[lone junco]

Pet peeve: people that dont have kids, complaining about paying taxes for school systems.

[spare cloud]

I dont think somebody with 2 standard deviations in the negative is able to finish school in germany

[vapid moth]

@solid nova exactly

[solid nova]

But there will always be aspect like that, even when you're working

[lone junco]

depends on the width of the Sigma? @spare cloud

[spare cloud]

2 standard deviations in the negative is generally about 70 IQ

[vapid moth]

What's that

[lone junco]

but i get it

[vapid moth]

Oh. So theyre just random graphs

[echo estuary]

not random

[spare cloud]

I dont think someone with an IQ of 70 is able to finish school in germany

[lone junco]

yeah. so saying +/- 2 standard dev is not really that meaningfull to me.

[spare cloud]

it would be too hard

Yeah I'm gonna go with clear numbers now

[lone junco]

I dont know what 70iq looks like, but sounds pretty dumb

[solid nova]

Average is 100 ish isnt it?

[spare cloud]

Yes average is 100

[lone junco]

like, is forrest gump 50 or 75 ?

[vapid moth]

The hardest part about living in a suburb with no car is finding a job

[lone junco]

or 25?

[spare cloud]

forrest gump is 75

i think

smth like that

So someone like that finishing school

I dont think thats happening

in germany at least

[echo estuary]

the average IQ of somalians are 68

[lone junco]

@vapid moth we talked about that yesterday. Transportation in sub. for 30yr plan. cant afford to uber every day.

[spare cloud]

Thats compared to us

which is to be expected

[lone junco]

i have a bus stop at my work and house, and its still 270$/mo to ride

[vapid moth]

Yeah. Just another reason why I'm stuck home

[lone junco]

do a web cam and sell your body

[spare cloud]

tbh

the more I hear about america in assa chat

the less I want to go there

ever

[lone junco]

dont blame you.

our guns have guns

[solid nova]

I reckon i could sell loads of drugs there though

[lone junco]

true

[spare cloud]

Yeah you could

If you dont die while selling them 🤷

[vapid moth]

It'd a great place to visit once you get past the reta- wait I can't say that word

[solid nova]

They wont kill a Brit

They'll like the accent too much

[spare cloud]

I think you'd be dead earlier than a native

easy target

[lone junco]

OxyContin®, Percocet®, Palladone®, Vicodin®, Percodan®, Tylox® and Demerol®

[solid nova]

Tea, Coffee, Paracetamol

The essentials

[lone junco]

if you have an accent, you can sell scones and shit for like 5$ each

[spare cloud]

Imagine richard standing in the street corning

slowly approaching you

wanna buy some tea?

[echo estuary]

you forgot maye

[lone junco]

coffee and pastry = 9$

[echo estuary]

mate*

[solid nova]

Yes blud

[spare cloud]

while he shows you a teabag

trying not to look suspicious

[echo estuary]

WICKED INNIT MATE

[lone junco]

teabag as in his nuts?

🥜

[solid nova]

Wanna see my tea bags 😏

[lone junco]

youd get 20 mean mugs then a bullet

[solid nova]

Lmfao

[lone junco]

this is a ball free zone

[solid nova]

Gotta try and hold in the irl laughs

Office space

[spare cloud]

Can we go back to the school discussion?

[lone junco]

i guess.

[spare cloud]

I dont want to talk about richards balls

[echo estuary]

richard does

[lone junco]

I wish i had mathcad when i was at school

[solid nova]

But my tea bags 😦

[spare cloud]

whats a mathcad

[solid nova]

^

[lone junco]

sec

[spare cloud]

I googled it

got it

Why would you need that in school

wtf

[lone junco]

I use it at work.

so good

[solid nova]

What is your job?

Curious af

Ah

Makes sense 😄

[lone junco]

this is hydraulics or water in a structure

[spare cloud]

Applied mathematics is always nice

[lone junco]

way better than real math.

i appreciate you though.

[echo estuary]

its simpler

[lone junco]

most all of our stuff is from testing and sampled data with a back asswards equation pulled out of the gobbldygook

[spare cloud]

For people that dont know whats going on it looks harder pretty often though

[lone junco]

.5 R ^5/2 ?

[solid nova]

^ me

[lone junco]

thats my desktop

[echo estuary]

its like a carpenter vs an architect

but it pays well so noobe is gucci

[spare cloud]

Most mathematicians end up in physics anyways

[vapid moth]

I couldn't be a civil engineer

[spare cloud]

90% of the time you end up in an applied field

[vapid moth]

Not ever

[solid nova]

I mean just getting any job is a start brother

Low pay is better than no pay

[vapid moth]

Lmao true

[solid nova]

Not saying CE is low pay, just generalising

[spare cloud]

But if you earn less than 11$ an hour

then youre subhuman to don

[solid nova]

Let me currency convert 😄

[vapid moth]

But my dad is one. I loathe him. Don't wanna be like him. Getting his job would fit under that category

[spare cloud]

I want to study IT as well

might do it after my bachelor

[echo estuary]

crypto?

[spare cloud]

or if I fail 🤷

[lone junco]

not a small market.

[spare cloud]

I'd rather have a secure less paying job than a better income with insecurity

tbh

[lone junco]

It is silly to target a field of 5

correct

[spare cloud]

ofc the "less" should be enough to live from, still

[lone junco]

so the data release is fucking stress.

500k/yr, about to jump off a bridge.

nah.

[spare cloud]

I like my study field because its secure as fuck

[zealous dew]

they haven't fixed BRH bat lines yet

[vapid moth]

What's your study field

[zealous dew]

unbelievable

[spare cloud]

like the unemployment rate for bachelors is at about 0,4% or smth insane like that

[vapid moth]

"Nursing"

[lone junco]

@spare cloud math is huge in data analysis for big companies. looking at sales figures and projections. math applied to the capitalistic treadmill

[spare cloud]

I have economics classes as secondary courses

[lone junco]

reasearch math is bonkers to me tho

if you cant sell a product, you become a teacher or a barista

[spare cloud]

Still enough to live from

[lone junco]

def.

college prof isnt a bad gig.

[spare cloud]

And in germany you basically will never be unemployed as a teacher

Proffs have insane earnings

[lone junco]

summers off, side research. patents if you are good.

[spare cloud]

I think like 8k/month

well not insane but its really high

[lone junco]

is that a deutch dollar?

[spare cloud]

about 10k dollar

i think

but thats with healthcare and everything except food and housing taken away

[lone junco]

100k is good coin

gl.

[spare cloud]

I dont think ill ever be a prof though

not smart enough for that

[solid nova]

That's excellent gp/hr

Worth a go though

[spare cloud]

also research math is not for me i think

[lone junco]

(that is a good skill. knowing your limits.)

[spare cloud]

way too stressful

[lone junco]

was why I left biomedical eng.

SUPER cool stuff.

[spare cloud]

I technically have the average IQ for a prof

[lone junco]

I cant function out of my comfort level for 40yrs

[spare cloud]

but that doesnt really say anything

Like even people who are at like 180 IQ levels will suck at things that they dont enjoy doing

I know you can't measure exact iqs above around 145

or was it 160?

not sure

[vapid moth]

Can't wait to take an iq test and find out I actually have an iq of 100

[lone junco]

same.

I spend a lot of time to learn stuff.

[spare cloud]

I had to take one in elementary school

[lone junco]

but then get really good. fast snap tests are not my best.

[spare cloud]

because they thought I was retarded

I was a very angry kid in kindergarden

[wind gull]

Hey gang. For poison build are we still shooting for 3Mass and 3 Malc at 970 ilevel?

[spare cloud]

so they forced me to it so they could send me to a school for the special kids

Yeah

[vapid moth]

I learn shit practically instantly. Didn't need to take notes for most classes

[lone junco]

@wind gull those would be good. 2nd row may vary.

[spare cloud]

balanced blades can be very good as well

[lone junco]

I have a blend of Malch/Bb

[spare cloud]

if you have really low crit

[vapid moth]

The real gold nugget is Mastery of Shadows

[lone junco]

shocklight

💪

[vapid moth]

Nah. MoS. You want crit then go get some crit gear

[spare cloud]

But yeah, I don't think IQ is an accurate indication of what a person is capable of doing

[lone junco]

I may wreck my relics and go 7malch 7pk tho.

Im done with raid content.

[solid nova]

@spare cloud Agreed.

[vapid moth]

Definitely not

[spare cloud]

It can lead in the right direction

But its not even close to being an absolute

[lone junco]

I dont memorize stats, but get a vast understanding of overall concepts.

that is hard to test

[dire spoke]

did ravenholdt run heroic already?

[spare cloud]

there is a reason why average math bachelor or physics bachelor has an IQ of 130

But there are still people with an IQ of maybe 115 or smth and they are just extremely talented at one field

Also you can study for IQ tests.

[vapid moth]

I love personality tests though

[wind gull]

I went 3 Mass and a mix of others and I am not impressed. Think I will try for 3 Malc instead.

[spare cloud]

If you have the choice

go ahead

I dont have to choice

🤷

Tisumi

[lone junco]

yeah. most of the relics are +/- 1-2%

unless you are trying for exang.

then it is 3vend or bust

[spare cloud]

Are you mad because you got temp banned on rh?

but youre back

Does anyone of you want to carry my monk through hc or normal?

...but?

https://gyazo.com/39b1c2bd334d252b09866e9a88582655

noxxic assa guide btw

[lone junco]

enough to get you to blue

[vapid moth]

I'd love to but I haven't been in the game in 10 days

[solid nova]

😮

@spare cloud Leading guides on BFA release btw

[spare cloud]

I dont understand why you would be active in a class discord when you dont actively play the game and class the discord is for

[lone junco]

some guides are for people at 102 leveling a boost.

notter hasnt raided in like 2months

[vapid moth]

If you're at 102 why would you care about stats

[lone junco]

I read guides for all toons i play

[spare cloud]

Yeah but he has a modding position as well as guides to maintain

If I wasnt playing rogue right now I wouldnt be here

🤷

[solid nova]

If i make a hunter best believe i'll be reading hunter guides and nerding the discord

Even if its not max

I still want to know

[lone junco]

and remember, web traffic pays the bills.

[vernal adder]

I dont know what you are talking about but 📌

[lone junco]

target the Bell curve. not the edgy mythic folks that dont need your guide

[vapid moth]

Reminds me of the fact that some of my guild it's have an issue whenever I tell them to visit class discord >_>

[lone junco]

same with AMR. they are targeting a bulk of players.

[spare cloud]

Yes but thats what I mean

[dire spoke]

lmfao

I am not impressed

[lone junco]

give them an addon that tells them ⬆ or ⬇

[solid nova]

I'm not impressed that you're not impressed

[vapid moth]

You're a bit late there mate

[spare cloud]

I havent eaten anything today

[solid nova]

Mcdonalds monopoly

[vapid moth]

I'll make you food toph

[lone junco]

@dire spoke how far are you into argus now?

[vapid moth]

Any allergies?

[dire spoke]

sorry I spent 6min on Guldan M

can't discord then

[solid nova]

MOUNT?

[spare cloud]

Zempai did you already get a response?

[dire spoke]

No mount

No response

[spare cloud]

send me the application in dm btw

[solid nova]

Shouldn've DEd the COF

[dire spoke]

No Argus

[spare cloud]

I wanna see

and make fun

[dire spoke]

No make fun

[spare cloud]

but see

no make fun

[solid nova]

I could have proof read your application

[spare cloud]

its german

sure you can

[lone junco]

@dire spoke still on aggramar, or guild ded?

[solid nova]

I could not have proof read your application*

[spare cloud]

I joined the m+ discord

for eu

and the big one

[dire spoke]

Guild half dead, recruitment going on while progressing Aggra

[pseudo ore]

There's a M+ discord?

[spare cloud]

there is literally 1 group per day max posting

[pseudo ore]

I still need keystone master :o

[lone junco]

@dire spoke rip. gl

[spare cloud]

not even close to worth going there

[pseudo ore]

really

wow

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/b98807a78f6c389fce21c2e531749b90

[solid nova]

15 in time is pretty easy

[spare cloud]

I will never find a group there

there is like 1 group per week

and its not a dungeon i need

[pseudo ore]

I just need keystone master I don't care about doing any keys higher than like 16 or 17

[solid nova]

New player i assume?

Whats your gear like?

[pseudo ore]

Absolutely not

[spare cloud]

You can pug it

easily

[solid nova]

How come you've not managed it before then?

[pseudo ore]

I've been playing since burning crusade.
I'm just insanely casual

[solid nova]

Whats your gear like atm then?

[dire spoke]

you can give me 300k for +15

[pseudo ore]

my main is 945

unh dk

[solid nova]

945 for a 15 is fine

[spare cloud]

thats plenty good for 15

You just need to be patient with the group searching

[pseudo ore]

I know. It's finding a group that sucks

[spare cloud]

dont be discouraged if you have to go through multiple groups

thats the most important thing

[pseudo ore]

I haven't played as often as I'd like to

[solid nova]

Easiest thing to do is just make your own group

[pseudo ore]

I have a week of break starting after today so

[solid nova]

Pugs will always have insanely unrealistic expectations for gear

[pseudo ore]

I will work on it

[spare cloud]

Yeah

Just be patient and youre good

[solid nova]

Pug mentality = higher gear for the braindead pugs you get

[pseudo ore]

Mhm

yup

[spare cloud]

worst thing you can do is stop searching or smth after like 5 minutes

[lone junco]

best is if you make the group with your key

or pay for the carry

[pseudo ore]

I already did the worst thing I can do a long time ago lol

[spare cloud]

tbh +15 boosts are insanely cheap right now

[pseudo ore]

I haven't had the willpower to search fof a ksm group since january

[solid nova]

100k on my realm

[spare cloud]

if you really dont find the time until the end

[solid nova]

for 15 boost

[pseudo ore]

I will NOT pay for a boost/carry

[solid nova]

At 945 you will be a carry in comparison

Unless you get groups of same ilvl

[pseudo ore]

I have like maybe 50k across my entire account

tho

[lone junco]

I would take your key to a 12 then 12 to a 14 etc.

[solid nova]

8 to 12?

[lone junco]

just make the group as a dps, and have the rest do the work

wtfe

[solid nova]

Just take your own key and slowly work it up

Youll get there easy

[pseudo ore]

I know how it works, at this point you're wasting your breath.

[spare cloud]

I could take you right now tbh 🤷

[solid nova]

Alright

No worries

[pseudo ore]

But thank you anyways

[lone junco]

its not breath.

[spare cloud]

I'm bored

[solid nova]

You're welcome for the help

[pseudo ore]

I know it's not breath lmao

time

[lone junco]

or just complain and not get your key.

[solid nova]

@spare cloud I got distracted with yours and Noobes convo and fell behind at work

[vernal adder]

good

[spare cloud]

Want me to send you some practice sheets from uni

[solid nova]

@vernal adder Lurker!

[spare cloud]

then youre back to your work in no time

[solid nova]

Ive got 20mins left

Before my 4 day weekend

And about an hours work

Might just run now

[spare cloud]

No need to be scared

I just want to share what I love

[solid nova]

😟

I need nitro tbh

[spare cloud]

Yes you do

[lone junco]

[tranquil silo]

so should i be gemming crit to get to 30% even if stat weights say mastery?

[spare cloud]

No

[lone junco]

well.

[brisk forge]

just what feels good

[tranquil silo]

i keep seeing 30-35% crit

[lone junco]

your weights only say mastery because your crit is so low

[tranquil silo]

im at 26

[brisk forge]

higher crit makes the playstyle smoother

[spare cloud]

Dont do that.

[lone junco]

weights are only a function of the NEXT 1300 stat

some people have 10k crit. you have like 5k

[gilded lark]

@vapid moth eat a dick

[lone junco]

so at that exact point mastery is better

if you wear shoulder, you can get away with low crit and high mastery.

[spare cloud]

now thats a toxic entrance

[gaunt moat]

the late reaction

[gilded lark]

I was asleep

[lone junco]

if you want to ditch and play any of the other builds, you will want 30-50 crit

[tranquil silo]

i have 5 gem slots so i can add 1k crit

[gilded lark]

But i was tagged

[spare cloud]

dont do it

[tranquil silo]

but it doesnt seem worth it

[lone junco]

then run the sim with the gear compare, and swap the crit.

[gilded lark]

[lone junco]

if it goes up, then yay

[spare cloud]

its still withing the calculations of sim

also crit doesnt get worse than mastery until youre at like 21% or smth

at least for me, that will differ for you because we have different ilvls

[gilded lark]

Better

Lol

[tranquil silo]

anyone know the gem id for crit

[lone junco]

raidbots

[gilded lark]

You don't need the id. Just plug it in using raidbots

[vernal adder]

yellow

[dire spoke]

I'm notting getting any mounts RIP

[gilded lark]

Theres an option

Notting

[lone junco]

just add each of the gem slots to the same string and swap gem type

[spare cloud]

Oh boy

noobe raidbots usage guides

always the best

[lone junco]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/gear

its what I use. keeps me sane. like the neck enchant is worth like 0.1%

so i dont bother swapping

[gilded lark]

Neck crit enchant

🤔

[zealous dew]

alacrity fanboys ?

[lone junco]

bleh.

talk about limp burst.

[spare cloud]

Im gonna start playing runescape

good graphics and nice interactive gameplay

[gilded lark]

[lone junco]

a friend wants me to play Rift. somewhat poe like talent tree, with a trinity build. and a ton of shitty bugs.

[echo estuary]

runescape was awesome 16 years ago

[spare cloud]

I played runescape when I was like 8

it was the shit

[solid nova]

I maxed on runescape pre divination

GOML

[lone junco]

2002 was interesting for sure.

[solid nova]

2002 i was 9

No

Yes

[lone junco]

went to bars/clubs about 4 or 5 nights a week.

[echo estuary]

quick maffs

[gilded lark]

2004 rs

2007 rs

[lone junco]

we had an appartment with a pool and summer was a good time for 2am shenanigans

[solid nova]

Bare shenanigans fam

[spare cloud]

if I were to touch any runescape again

it would be osrs

ofc

[solid nova]

Youd hate it

[gilded lark]

2018 rs

[solid nova]

Nostalgia is best left alone

[spare cloud]

Have you seen what they did in the actual game

[solid nova]

Aye

[gilded lark]

Osrs isnt terrible but like

[echo estuary]

imagine skilling strength getting 20k exp/hr as back in 2002 good times

its like going to the gym without roids

[gilded lark]

The GE is there so you lose all that old self sufficiency

[solid nova]

Last time i played i was doing magic xp at around 1.5m xp/hr

Lmao

Afk 1.5m

There's no grind to it anymore

[echo estuary]

i had 91 strength on my pure back in 2003 that was pretty sick

[solid nova]

I remember first fire cape

[spare cloud]

You all old fucks

[solid nova]

Back in my day!

[echo estuary]

yeah im 30, still learning math 😦 hows that

[gilded lark]

I remember my first permaban

[dire spoke]

I'm almost 30 and use raidbots

[solid nova]

Only ever been banned on League

[lone junco]

I went back to college at 30.

college 1.0 didnt go as well.

2.0 was ez degree 🗞

[spare cloud]

My college is going well

but social life?

not so much

[lone junco]

good

[gilded lark]

Get off discord then

[lone junco]

fraternity in college 1.0 was a good way to stay up till 4am doing dumb shit. on a day with 8am tests.

wow will do the same

[spare cloud]

Why would I get off discord

only contact to other humans

[solid nova]

You think that

But discord is an AI programme

None of us are real

[spare cloud]

Okay

bb then

[solid nova]

He actually left 😂

[spare cloud]

Ok im back

[solid nova]

Good!

[lone junco]

I love sub in m+ for the trash pulls, but i need someone to play it for the ST bosses. I dislike that part.

[solid nova]

You'd break Noobes heart if you left for good

[spare cloud]

Nobody would care much

thats why were on discord

its noncommital

[lone junco]

👌

when i leave some will send me a /dm. some will 🤷 broadsides will 🕺

[solid nova]

Broadsides will never be happy until hes the only human being left on the planet

I think hes sleeping so will confirm when he wakes from the devilish pit in which he rests

[gilded lark]

[vernal adder]

@gilded lark get pinged

[gilded lark]

[spare cloud]

@gilded lark 👍

[sharp viper]

pinged once more

[dire spoke]

https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aKqvgb1/adxRZjXj_700wa_0.gif

[keen inlet]

man

I get re-certed for first aid/aed/cpr

and miss all the spiciness

[lone junco]

hands only

makes people less uncomfortable with breathing into a gross person

[dire spoke]

don bad at oral

[keen inlet]

lol

the training is now "if you're comfortable with it, give breaths, otherwise something is better than nothing"

[solid nova]

Reassuring to know if I'm choking you'll at least pat my head in an effort to save me

[echo estuary]

20 cc of ephedrine and you'll be sprouting again Richard

we gucci

[vernal adder]

@gilded lark WAKE UP

[spare cloud]

mods trolling in general

[echo estuary]

Herr TOPH doesn't like commitment

[sand whale]

wow cloak mastery enchant finally a gain for me by 1k wtb more mastery gear instead!

[shrewd oriole]

Vroom vroom 1% speed

[dire spoke]

I'm in me mums car

[odd haven]

Hello I have a question , Nightborne is really good for rogue ?

[polar grail]

you should go goblin

[odd haven]

only gob ?

[spare cloud]

No

Nightborne is really bad for assa

[odd haven]

Goblin is powerful but I dont like it ^^'

[spare cloud]

goblin isnt powerful

dont spread misinformation

[brisk forge]

Go whatever race you like, dosent matter

[echo estuary]

kinda does matter

[spare cloud]

Yeah, it doesnt matter if you dont care

if you care about optimizing then you should go bloodelf on horde

[echo estuary]

i want my two trinkets in pvp thank you

[spare cloud]

and dwarf on alliance

or rather human on alliance, depending on what you want to play

[brisk forge]

Lol no? You can play in a top guild what ever you like

[spare cloud]

🤔

[brisk forge]

Such a small dps gain

[spare cloud]

Go ask an actual topguild and see what they think about that

[brisk forge]

Do you really think a assa rogue that play human cant beat a dwarf for a exampel?

[spare cloud]

Are you trolling?

[brisk forge]

As i Said, if you like a specific race go with it cuz it wont make or break it

Why should i?

[spare cloud]

You totally missed the point I was trying to make

[amber briar]

Is it possible to keep envenom debuff up all the time? I'm having trouble with no enough energy.

[spare cloud]

Its not a debuff its a buff

also no

with 4pc and decent gear your envenom uptime is about 90-70%

or rather should be

depending on boss and fight time

[solid nova]

Noobes got a log of 96% I'm pretty sure

[spare cloud]

@brisk forge Can you explain to me then why method literally plays the optimal race on each of their players

for argus

if it doesnt matter

guess its just an accident 🤷

or pure coincidence

20 players playing the optimal race

[odd haven]

So BloodElf is better

[spare cloud]

Yes.

[odd haven]

Thx for your time^^

[supple hearth]

Method also raids for like 40 hours a week when content comes out that doesn't mean u should do it hehehe

[spare cloud]

That wasnt the question

[lean hill]

The difference between method and the rest of the playerbase though... Not a good comparison

[spare cloud]

Dude said you can play w/e you want in a top guild

He said top guild

I didn't

[lean hill]

What is "top guild"

[spare cloud]

Top guild is the best guild.

[lean hill]

People have different definitions

[spare cloud]

And they require you to play the most optimized setup

You're right people have different defintion

[lean hill]

Method is on a level most of us are Not, I doubt they mean if you want to join method you can do whatever

[spare cloud]

thats why you shouldnt care about what race you play

[lean hill]

Agreed

[keen inlet]

[spare cloud]

but if you actually do you dont pick a subpar race

Thats all I said

I said "If you care you will go blood elf as horde and dwarf/human depending on speccs as alliance"

if you dont care then w/e

if he cares or not is not my buisness

[strange python]

Bois I have a special backstab for you today

[lean hill]

This is reminding me of the golg ilvl guy yesterday haha

[strange python]

If you’re in public; you’re now aware of your breathing

[spare cloud]

He wanted to know what the best race is

I told him what the best race is

[strange python]

Welcome to my past 14 minutes

[spare cloud]

and the other guy simply spread misinformation

thats all.

[lean hill]

Im on your side lol was just saying method isn't a good comparison for us plebs

[spare cloud]

Ofc for us plebs the 0,4% dont matter, play w/e you want

but in actual top progress it does matter

[lean hill]

If you are asking in rogue discord what race is best, it doesn't matter

[strange python]

Dat double change

[spare cloud]

Yeah it doesnt matter

[strange python]

You play rogue cause you’re elitist

[lean hill]

Cause the top end dudes don't need discord for advice

[strange python]

If you’re not swap to feral

[spare cloud]

But if the guy chooses to actually care about what is the strongest race then I will let him know w hat that is

[lone junco]

@lean hill thats not true

[spare cloud]

Actually the top guys are kinda reliant on theory crafters

[strange python]

Noobe ❤

[spare cloud]

they cant do the work themselves

[lone junco]

I have had plenty of top end dudes talk to me about rogue things

[spare cloud]

while also keeping up with the shit they need to do to stay competitive

[lone junco]

some dont even do TC or know the meta. just very very good at adapting

[lean hill]

Well I stand corrected. But they still won't come in here asking what is the best race

[spare cloud]

Also why is Weak here then

and why was flowi here

They are world 3

[strange python]

Jose is the outlaw god but does he even raid?

[solid nova]

Flowi not here

😭

[spare cloud]

You really think the method dudes figure out all the stuff themselves?

Thats delusional

[dire spoke]

You don't need discord to chat with theorycrafters man

[lone junco]

they are very good, and can filter through valueable vs minutia

[spare cloud]

Thats true ofc.

[sand whale]

they are just better at executing the theorycrafting 😛

compared to the theorycrafters shots fired!

[lone junco]

zing tom. zing

but arguably a better player than me. Im too old for mythic grind

would smash someone at 200 wipes.

like drive to their house and hit them with a bat

[dire spoke]

animal abuse

[strange python]

Noobe google CGAA

do the test

[spare cloud]

they also play a ton

they arent like some alien geniuses who just pick up stuff at first try

[strange python]

Wat

[gaunt moat]

Also... They have better gear.

[strange python]

Not that one

[spare cloud]

GEAR IS NOT IMPORTANT

[strange python]

Lol

[spare cloud]

[lone junco]

20/20 man

[strange python]

Okay

[dire spoke]

Better gear? I doubt they have better/balanced gear with 960 killing argus

[spare cloud]

I mean because gear clearly doesnt matter, top guilds split 6 times

[strange python]

Thought so

[spare cloud]

They have the best gear at the time of the kill

ofc.

[strange python]

4 months 21 days

[lone junco]

http://cgaa.info/self-test-for-video-gaming-addiction/

[strange python]

Since i’ve played

[spare cloud]

Dude

the german translation

is unreadable

[dire spoke]

google translate

[strange python]

English ?

[spare cloud]

I answer yes to all the questions

except "are your friends gamers"

[strange python]

Well then

[lone junco]

this isnt "pray the gay away". just get your shit under control

[strange python]

i cant

[lone junco]

RL without games sucks too.

granted, I went cold turkey when I went back to school

[spare cloud]

"do you spend real money in-game"

[strange python]

Ofc

[spare cloud]

🤔

No I dont buy games to play them

[lone junco]

logged after LK farm, and was like peace guys.

[spare cloud]

but then again if I buy games I am addicted

[lone junco]

logged back in after i graduated

[spare cloud]

wotlk was 9 years ago

[lone junco]

most important thing I did, was 0game nights. friday is date night period

[spare cloud]

[lone junco]

took from 2011 to 2015 to finish school

I played half ass during wod.

2nd thing. is sticking to a main. and fuck alts. time is limited. dont fuck around

[strange python]

But now you’re back

[lone junco]

3rd. no mythic. flex lets you be free. go enjoy things

[strange python]

?

[lone junco]

yeah. Office grind is boring. at least i have money now.

[echo estuary]

I think you had the right attitude, unless you are a genius or have a gift for pattern rcognition you aren't going to ace civil engineering whilst spending half the time on distractions

[lone junco]

poor and boring is different.

[strange python]

Yes

[lone junco]

@echo estuary had a genius friend. wouldnt study, wouldnt go. a's on tests. but once failed a test because he skipped the review. . its no good for anyone.

games are bad for life

extended him a whole year.

[echo estuary]

i use games as a supplement to life, its a needed distraction, in good moderation however

[lone junco]

I have wow dreams man.

thats how i know it gets bad

[strange python]

I had those aswell

[echo estuary]

i would use booze but its not a viable solution

[shrewd oriole]

oh god

it's time for my first hunter raid

[lone junco]

while I quit, I would stalk friends armory though. look at vids of BOT or whatever

from Cata

[strange python]

Macro all cd’s in 1 button

[lone junco]

it faded

[strange python]

Ye im lurking in here still

Hard to let go

It’ll fade tho

[lone junco]

good thing to think about. is that if this site closes, no one is real

gotta focus on the RL people that matter.

[strange python]

Wtf is this realtalk all of a sudden

What arebwendoing

[lone junco]

I bring the real talk.

[strange python]

Where are the memes

Nvm the meme is your armory

[lone junco]

zing

[strange python]

Ly

[lone junco]

I think you solved my prob for bfa

[strange python]

Happy to help

Share your thoughts

[lone junco]

Ill still play, but i dont have time for multi roles like tank/heal/dps. and I dont want to learn something new.

back in BC/LK i played 2-3 toons max level. with multi spec, and multi gear.

current, im runing like 15 -30 M+ a week across rogue/hpal/dh

i dont have time for that.

so Ill just not level the others, stick to one.

prob rog.

its selfish to not flex heal or flex tank, but its easy, and my time belongs to me.

and as dps, you can just /log. no one needs you

[brisk forge]

i´ve never played more then my main anc casual on a alt 😛 Cba to put that amount of time on a game, even tho i really like wow

[sand whale]

well I mean atm you need to level your artifact get good relics etc etc

before it's just hey carry me, thanks for the gear bye

[brisk forge]

So the golden way is to play so it fits your current stat of life ;D

state*

[lone junco]

esp if you are in school. that is the prio. fail and your skills are worthless.

[brisk forge]

jupp, not worth it to screw up that for a game for sure

[lone junco]

even dancing around with the idea of "prob c's"

so much time to play after you have a job/career. nights are boring after school.

[brisk forge]

But building a good career takes time after you have graduate 😮 So best tip is to be your own boss and you can make your self rich and not another dude 😄

[lone junco]

marketing is hard.

ill never be my own boss

[echo estuary]

If you have the brains for said studies (lets say min. 110 iq for engineering) you should go for it, but if you tested yourself and feel lacking in ability you should not push it and pursue other venues

[lone junco]

may move up in a firm

[fervent beacon]

I don't do shit at my work and I'm currently a supervisor

[brisk forge]

But the market is hard on a firm aswell, so may aswell go full out and make it on your own. But ofc that is not a wlak in the park. I would lie if i said that

[sand whale]

yeah but supervisors are just a more important shit kicker

[brisk forge]

alot to keep track off etc

[fervent beacon]

I still do more work than like 3 employees tho, I just got the hustle hustle baby.

[brisk forge]

Everything depends on what amount of cash/free time you want to have i mean everybody wants diff things out of life 😄

[fervent beacon]

A Member dropped off a case of redbull for me yesterday after working on his truck

[sand whale]

coz you're good that's why they made you the more important one XD which is why I now default to being lazy if I can get away with it

[strange python]

If you’re a RL and dont know what to do, management

[dire spoke]

@spare cloud @gusty kestrel come let's sign up heroic pug with iwin

[fervent beacon]

Can I join?

4 sin rogues carrying raid, let do it

[spare cloud]

[lone junco]

lets see 12 tbh

sin to win

[fervent beacon]

PURP INCOMING, NO TOXICITY IN HERE GUYS.

[lone junco]

@strange python if I were half as knowledgeable at work as I am at rogue. oy

[strange python]

RUN ITS GRREY

innit

[dire spoke]

@fervent beacon are you even EU

[fervent beacon]

No I'm not, so I guess I can't be cool as you guys

[strange python]

If I was as motivated

[zealous dew]

can i bring my 882 monk ?

[amber briar]

On trash packs, do you put rupture at 5cp on 3 or does it matter how many cps?

[strange python]

Do whatever makes you feel the best

[zealous dew]

define trash pack

[fervent beacon]

For higher key, I usually fok spread rupture at 3-4cp

I never do more than 3-4 ruptures and then i just focus fok env one target

[amber briar]

Well like 15 m plus packs

[spare cloud]

Think a little

[amber briar]

Rupture is there for the energy return right?

[spare cloud]

is it worth to put rupture with 5 cp on a target that just lives 12 seconds

[fervent beacon]

It's fort week

[dire spoke]

ugh I'm getting headache again

[zealous dew]

lol that icon

[spare cloud]

Is it worth to put a 3cp rupture on a target that lives 24 seconds

[fervent beacon]

[scarlet mantle]

slow down with the numbers mate

[spare cloud]

I am the fast

[amber briar]

Uh ok

[spare cloud]

Rupture is for the energy reg yes

so its not worth to put it on if the mobs die in burst for example

On longer multitarget you should keep it on to support enough energy regenration to spam fok + envenom

[amber briar]

Thanks for the info. Gonna try to get better right meow

[spare cloud]

Thats my man

[zealous dew]

that 3cp rupture lasting only 16s on a mob living 13.32 is worth over a 5cp envenom on the same mob ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[echo estuary]

that thing gave me seizures

[spare cloud]

Why do you post it then

why

[shrewd oriole]

wheres toph

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

wait

is that toph

korean name

what happened

[solid nova]

He went white....

[dire spoke]

@shrewd oriole this was me today https://snag.gy/iGXNmj.jpg

[vernal adder]

@spare cloud hey want a ping?

[spare cloud]

[dire spoke]

I also pulled a 945 waist from NH today lmao

but the only warr in the group was very happy

[zealous dew]

DE it

[vernal adder]

https://gfycat.com/IndelibleZestyBernesemountaindog

[dense quest]

Item recovery it!

[vernal adder]

[marble hemlock]

jesus

why....

[dire spoke]

Stjern with PoV cam

[spare cloud]

nice rouge gameplay

[ebon junco]

guys is hero damage acurate of getting 6th trait in master assasin is actually such a downgrade compared to 5th or 7th?

if so then why?

[spare cloud]

bad timings

its not a downgrade it literally does nothing

however you lose a trait that could be something else

[lone junco]

I should just make a picture of that vendetta timing.

[spare cloud]

Do it

[lone junco]

@ebon junco 6th vendetta delays your 2nd vanish. with shoulders this is an issue. BUT if you want to get 3x vendetta, there is a point where you need 2x.

[spare cloud]

It requires additional thinking as well

not gud

[lone junco]

ish.

[vernal adder]

😦

[ebon junco]

well ty for info

[gilded lark]

@vernal adder

[dire spoke]

oh btw

Is somebody running 3MAss mantle-bracers

[lone junco]

I do for m+

[dire spoke]

I just find myself having weird alignments with the second vanish

[lone junco]

I have a shitty log on garothi with it

[dire spoke]

vend+vanish are ready but I would need to wait for KB and TB like 13s

[lone junco]

😐

I guess thats what I did here

[dire spoke]

[manic vigil]

boots bracers zempai, do it

you know you want to

[zealous dew]

b00000000000000000000000000000000000ts

[lone junco]

that was also a delay for the bracer

was like 15 sec after hands

[manic vigil]

are you booo'ing or rooting for the boots shantal. I'm confused

finally got my mythic fang btw

[lone junco]

Like I said. Shitty log.

[manic vigil]

you are not allowed to play shitty, noobe

please remove this log

[zealous dew]

i like boots!

i just have 970 boots

😦

[manic vigil]

and post your orange ilvl parses that trigger everyone for a reasons I still don't understand

[zealous dew]

and 940 bracers

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

@lone junco hunter is almost 960

[plucky hornet]

anyone have the cd circle WA for spreading on Fear on Argus?

[sand whale]

does eet has t20 2pc

hunter no 2pc no bueno

[shrewd oriole]

not yet

[nimble tartan]

oh noobe im at the point where i could be at 2 vendetta but i legit am just holding the relic in my bags for when i get the 3rd

[shrewd oriole]

hunter is fine without 2p

it's only a 2%~ dps loss

[nimble tartan]

2% thats alot

i need those GAINS

[manic vigil]

MM pewpew?

[nimble tartan]

real talk tho i have a 945 gnawed thumb ring on my rogue i dont use even though it sims like 5k higher cause i go from like 190% mastery to 140

[manic vigil]

or BM faceroll

[nimble tartan]

and i aint fuckin with that

[manic vigil]

why not

omr

[sand whale]

enjoy the marked shot goodness before bfa hits too!

[nimble tartan]

cause i like having more mastery

[sand whale]

then it's rip AOE what is it?

[manic vigil]

is this an ocd issue of sorts?

[spare cloud]

wow

fucking chatlag

[manic vigil]

I don't even know how much mastery I have rn. But I'd trade you a bunch for some nice crit

fuck low crit

[nimble tartan]

im at like 33% crit

[dire spoke]

If I sim 2 bosses subterfuge does it act like it's like you would play on coven?

[nimble tartan]

194% mastery

[manic vigil]

sounds good actually

you playing mantle always?

[sharp viper]

mythic guldan instead of mythic argus since people are not showing 😦

[nimble tartan]

ye

i did mythic argus last week as boots bracers alacrity though

[manic vigil]

boring

[nimble tartan]

was pretty fun did like 2.1 m iirc

[manic vigil]

boots bracers alacrity

super edgy flowi approved shit

right there

[sharp viper]

toxic blade is a button too much

[manic vigil]

it really is fun yeah

I disagree

but only because alacrity is still a severe dps loss for me ^^

[nimble tartan]

its more fun than regular sin, anything to break the monotony of assassination ill take

it is for me as well maybe like 80k

[lone junco]

@nimble tartan Crit rings / neck are the real deal markers. Gotta get to that 44-48 range.

And I enjoy the rotation.

[manic vigil]

good point amr

I'm experimenting with other lego combos atm

[nimble tartan]

oh ye in my alacrity gear im at 46% crit

i have pretty good crit gear

[manic vigil]

trying to get the max consistency somehow

[lone junco]

Exang can be 0p4p.

[nimble tartan]

my bleed biuld sims like 30k less than my sin with only 1 MA

[lone junco]

Just have a garrote gap.

[nimble tartan]

so i imagine once i get 3 itll just beat my poison

and thats with 2p t20 baseline

[manic vigil]

with that juicy crit I'd go bleedy boi yeah

[lone junco]

Cool. Lmk if you have rotation nuance q.

[nimble tartan]

i just get cucked with relics

[dire spoke]

@lone junco If I sim 2 bosses subterfuge does it act like it's like you would play on coven?

[nimble tartan]

is exsang 1 target specific ?

or will it bleed all your shit faster

[manic vigil]

what do you mean zempai?

look at the apl and see what it does 😛

[keen inlet]

Zem's asking about simc apl on multi

[manic vigil]

well I still don't know what exactly "like you would play on coven" means

I assume it just dots them both and sticks to one if vendetta etc

[lone junco]

@dire spoke we can check. Patchwerk would assume they are close enough for FOK.

[dire spoke]

well I could check if it does vanish > garr > garr

[lone junco]

If you want to disable FOK you can.

Easy to check.

[manic vigil]

very sure it does double garrote

[lone junco]

I haven't played subterfuge since early antorus when 4p2p

[manic vigil]

that's why it outsims NS on 2 targets I always assumed

[dire spoke]

I'm just checking if boots-bracers subt would be a gain for me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eU8Byq2QBUj8F24dU5cNRi

[lone junco]

@nimble tartan exang is st rip. But the ep buffs all target ruptures.

So you set rupture. Swap. Set up ruptures. Run exang. Refresh then swap.

You mut 2T tho.

No fokky fokky

[nimble tartan]

im probably gonna go all xpac without 7 MA

if i aint have it by now ill never get it ;'(

[lone junco]

I would transition to ep tb. Insig boot.

[marble hemlock]

"We identified an issue that prevented Artifacts from scaling to the intended item level 995. The power provided by the artifacts was actually item level 970 for the entirety of the Time Trials and setup period (even though the tooltip reflected 995). As some of you have noticed, we have fixed the tooltip to reflect the correct item level, but we will not be updating the scaling tech, as it would invalidate the Time Trial results logged thus far."

#mdifails

[keen inlet]

👍

[zealous dew]

;D

[nimble tartan]

imagine that weapons scaled down so much and people still running 1 tank 4dps

[marble hemlock]

imagine how much better monk would be with higher weapons still :x

[nimble tartan]

ye man its crazy

wonder if they will force 1 healer rule in mdi

[marble hemlock]

,makes me feel even more inadequate

seeing how assa doesnt really scale well with weapon ilvl

and yet i still get dumpstered already

[lone junco]

Rip.

[turbid harbor]

monk is stronger compared to other classes because weapons are low ilvl

their weapon scaling is straight up garbage

not like they needed the help

[manic vigil]

@dire spoke back to your sim, I checked both APLs (mantle and new setup) and both seem weird. Would need a TCer to comment I guess 🤷

no idea why the apl does what it does

it seems to ignore NS and SF likewise tho

[dire spoke]

@manic vigil thanks for checking

[manic vigil]

I'll have to do some more sims because I was fairly sure it did use garrote properly for me on 2T sims with Subt spec

apparently not tho

[lone junco]

Outlaw mdi

[manic vigil]

"properly" as in, how I thought it should handle things. That leaves of course the very likely possibility of me being an idiot

[lethal heart]

@marble hemlock monk is one of worst s caling dps with weapon ilvl

if not worst

maybe as bad as assassination

[marble hemlock]

worse than assa/sub?

[turbid harbor]

it is worst

[lethal heart]

sub is 100% better than monk

[turbid harbor]

as i said above

[marble hemlock]

mkay

well, our mage was complaining alot about dealing low damage

guess it somewhat makes up for not having glaives etc.

[lethal heart]

yea int scaling is insane

they get so much int for ilvls

[marble hemlock]

im just baffled something like this could slip through the cracks

[turbid harbor]

it's like a 10% damage nerf for casters

[lethal heart]

small indie company 👏

[marble hemlock]

it took us like 2 dungeons until our mage said "my frostbolts are dealing 200k less damage than on live"

[turbid harbor]

nerf is the wrong word, because we've been playing with it already 😄

but still

[marble hemlock]

we just called him shit and told him to shut up

guess ill have to apologize

[lethal heart]

ROFL

[marble hemlock]

seldnor deserves it tho

[manic vigil]

[lethal heart]

that guy baited entire rogue community once 😠

[manic vigil]

you just assumed it was feelycraft huh

boohoo little mage thinks he's dealing less damage

what an idiot

[marble hemlock]

i looked at the details and saw he was right

[manic vigil]

I LOVE it

[marble hemlock]

i just didnt care enough to find out why