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Is the legendary head any good in any situation??
Just got it
Put in bank or keep in bags?
What other leggos do you have?
Could be one you use then
It'll depend on your off pieces for boot and helm slot
Def sim it
It will prob be shoulder + helm or boot (guessing shoulder boot) but like Sayonara said, it depends on off pieces.
kj is one of the best trinkets, so that makes sense. (it is not a best legendary)
So expect things to shift once you get better stuff. 4p21 dog trinket/argus etc
@hidden beacon what trinkets do you have besides kjbw
Cause if you're rocking a 910 mastery stat stick and 910 ravaged seed pod from relinquished. That'll happen. But if you got like a 915 seeping scourge wing and 915 shadow fang it'll swap fast.
IMO kj is worst leggo
Belt is significantly worse imo.
Cause kj can make up for bad trinkets. Belt just becomes a stat stick super fast
@placid egret Iโve got gilganneths vitality 945 and a 910 mastery stat stick yeah
Yeah. Just let vit gain ilvl and a ssf and it'll swap
Yeah trying to get singed fang
ANy rogues here have leggo trinkey from argus?
@supple mesa not me, but it is good if you arent using shoulders. lots of stats that work with EP/TB etc
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I'm kinda sad that they didn't add the trinkets sooner in the xpac. Woulda been nice to have them as alternates
im dissapointed they didnt add legendary currency sooner. The 1k coins isnt horrible.
That too
pins
you use it because it benefits the raid ..
Truth
what legendarys ppl use for M+?
Shoulders wrists generally.
cloak is shit for sin
You could use cloak. Not that great tbh
Wrists buff pk on fok in execute. So that's in my mind why people use wrists over it.
And it's still best st
you can sim the gear sets under shorter fight lenght.
like 5mob patchwerk 20sec or 40sec.
just to get an idea of scale
shoulders make the most diff.
Nice last episode of preaches thing
Anyone play bleed sin? like is it any good?
Its good
Stats change around though right or still mastery?
High crit and versa is as good as mastery for bleed
obviously depending on how much you got of the stat
so it might differ depending on your gear
Gotcha
most people wanting to try bleed will need a lot more crit
what % wise?
45%+
Finally got borderlands

I don't get why people say Sin is bad for leveling. Multi-dotting is like the only AOE rogue gets leveling and it's pretty good, and the leech poison + fan spam once you do get AOE is excellent.
first ton was rogue and sin, didnt know the could change specs, so i cant tell if is really good .-. but i didnt have any problem
dot > run to other add > dot > run to other add ...
Yeah and they don't have as many energy issues as other specs.
I see all the guides say to play outlaw/sub. Outlaw runs out of energy really fast and Sub... everyone acts like shadowstrike one-hits mobs and it doesn't in the least.
before the level scaling, you could 1 shot SS things.
I believe it.
now that you can't go around 1 shotting mobs, Sin is actually viable since dots actually last and you can just train the mobs
so now, Sin is probs the best for leveling if you are going to mass pull.
I remember leveling a Paladin in WOD and never being able to use their spenders because things would die to the builders.
So I'm looking at warcraftlogs, and it seem i get half the pb procs as most people, do you still use finishers at 4-5 cp's or just wait on 5 and i'm just unlucky
You refresh rupture at 6 seconds or below too tho right, and from what ive seen it doesn't matter how many cp's since it just adds on. so i find myself refreshing at 6 seconds with 3cp's maybe thats a weak spot on my proc rate?
And I always finish at 4+. So nutshell finish at 4cp unless you're refreshing garrote for 5th CP.
And pandemic point seems to be at 7-8.
I always try to refresh with 5cp if possible but 4cp is passable. Sometimes I do 3cp during KB if I need to refresh rupture but ideally you don't want to do that.
@Lexa#0794 rupture pandemic doesn't effect pb. 4 5 6 cps are fine to finish with. Don't cap e. Don't let rupture drop.
Besides. All the top logs have above avg bomb. If you are close to 8. That is avg.
ditched
Best horde racial for rogue?
Hey so I finally got legendary bracers, but it is simming lower than mantle + boots ? Should I trust the sim or go with the chart BiS
I mean im also thinking about BfA and future
With belf getting nerfed and all if iirc
belf has best racial
Well I'm most likely stepping away from this discord for a bit as it eats too much time, so I just wanted to say thanks to the homies who kept it real. Also, Fuck @vapid moth you're an ignorant cunt mate. And fuck @sand canyon You're an egotistical ape ๐
You won't be missed, cunt <3
Don't know you but gl ๐
@prime void ๐
@lone junco @manic vigil @gusty kestrel @simple badger โค
@prime void Yeah gimme my fucking name exclusivity back ya jerk. โค
@civic palm โค
Real quick, if i posted a log, would you be able to tell me anything i might be able to better even if we didn't down the boss?
Unless the boss was very low health, probably not?
If it's a mechanics question ya probably don't need to link a log or anything to work that problem out.
Hey he said he was getting off Discord, not WoW ๐
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Should I go mantle bracers or mantle boots? Can I trust my sims or should I follow what a guide says
I feel like i should just trust my sims but not wearing bracers feels bad after farming them all this time
Follow your heart
and the SIMS.
sims > heart
The guide isn't capable of telling you literally what gear is best for you.
sims dont add in emotions, heart does
Sims also only tells you whats better at a specific fight time
So on shorter fights bracers might be better anyways
and encounter style.
as well as on cleave
update: now sims have flipped and bracers seem to be better
If you have multiple med/high health adds, bracers are dope.
raidbots vs simc weird
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Make sure your settings are correct.
and that you are using the Nightly in both cases.
do you use nightly version as well as same settings
why do you type faster than me
I have the fastest fingers in this room
Why do you even try ?!
my simc is on 7.3.0 lol
updating ;p
Suppose that's a nice thing about Raidbots as well.
Can't really go too wrong.
Either Weekly or Nightly.
I'm all purpe logs now at least
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slowly getting to the 99% everywhere
we had a buyer today and i got some decent logs out of it
Noice.
But well I still can't play coven properly for shit
Tanks not getting them close enough?
at least I didnt kingsbane right before transition
or rather swap
this time
Well I have a total of 5 trys on the boss
3 kills and 2 wipes
Sure.
so I'm not 100% sure on the timings yet
Also we dont really tank them together at all
But yeah I can't play the fight well yet
IIRC most people with very good logs are three tanking and keeping them as close as possible.
Yeah but tyra gets 99% anyways even with our shit pulls
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You dont understand how it is to have a good rogue raiding with you
I mean there's me, and the good players I raid with.
Doesn't really have to be Rogues.
2 of those players have quit > _>
It's getting lonely.
its still weird though he gets like much more mutilate casts off than me
also much more envenoms
Don't pool just mash.
Yep
Our envenom dmg is actually pretty equal
Nothing.
but his rupture did 40 Mil more
I was doing halls of valor and my poison boms were brownn??
I guess the good thing is the direct comparison
I can just compare to a rogue that logs with me and dont have to look
Get a new monitor mate
How much different is your Vers/Crit from his?
no man it all looks the same.. maybe its the lighting in the dungeon?
I need to get to the bottom of this
Maybe
Hey there's a reason his RUP is more damage than yours ๐
Lmao its the little things that keep us attached to this game
Mastery difference?
More crit, more CP more ENV.
Ok confirmed, theyre still green.. they are BROWN in halls of valor tripped me out
Sure.
but wtf
85m dmg on coven is a dps difference of 300k
Like the dmg difference on logs is insane
Yeah
Sounds right.
we're only 7 percents apart
It's a bunch of little stuff
Yeah and as dumb as it sounds...
thats insane
it adds up.
My 2.2M Garothi ain't good enough.
But 2.4M.
ooobby
Fucking 2.3M even
OOOOBBY
2,4 is not even that good anymore
Time is a thing that we're not very good at calculating.
For muh item level it's fine > _> jerk.
I got a decent felhounds parse at least
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Did someone say Grey Argus logs?
_>
i had 2,336k garothi
Lmao
I soaked
Sure
p3
me too
But 6?
Wat
At least poison knife the boss lmao
Are you stupid
No
but pb my third
I just haven't done the fight
I meeeeeean.
So I really cant talk
Ghost...
Oh
knife.
because youre a ghost
heh
soaking orbs
have you not done the fight on heroic?
how big of a buff is getting the 4c t21?
Large
it's worth losing like 4 total ilvl?
Sim it
Where are my damn SIM meme emotes?1
https://i.imgur.com/jvBcv2U.gifv
there, found one
Remember 3 months ago when the phrase of the day was "check pins"
Lmao rupture doesn't stack?
I mean it stacks a little.
Why you exposing my logs like that
still 2,3 Mil
Who said they were your logs?
cuz 14% pb
o0o0o0ooooo
normal
They're not worth looking at. Haven't been updated in weeks at this point
He used rupture at 1cp lol
And that's the one he kept
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I'd 1CP RUP a Garothi arm on Heroic.
It won't even live the full 8 seconds
How huge is the impact from the balls from argus in mythic btw
the ones that spawn in p1
that give stacks
Lmao
Depends on how far up your ass his dick went
Sadly you added details before I could type that out
haha
Oh its like 6k mastery and crit
It's a lot.
For each one?
Oh
I didnt get them because I had the first 2 rages
Yeah they are an important buff
Who's logs do you keep posting
different logs
Oh
@prime void stepping away from the discord?
why not just not open it up if you don't have time? no self control? well, bummer either way. Take care man โค
Soon we're german only
That's pretty much what I do when toph annoys me. Close discord, punch a wall, come back later

inb4 when don't you
That was easy
!discordpaladin
Hey guys , does anyone have a spreadsheet with all the assassination loot drops from mythic plus ? I remember seeing one on discord some time ago , if so could you send direct to me as I'm at work ๐ thanks
when's the best time to rupture the second target in opener for 2 target sustained opener?
If you could make kingaroth harder
Would you choose Garothi Annihilator adds
Worldbreaker*
haha
What is the question? @primal tangle
Hed still be an easy ass boss
has anybody experienced like an energy regen bug?
You probably forgot to apply poisons
anyone able to give me an idea of where im fucking up? i'm doing shit for my ilvl. Any advice is appreciated
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZaGtxH4B7VAnhfgq/#fight=5&view=rankings
I hear whining at your raid until they let you not deal with shitty mechanics will increase your parses as well as killing a few of them sub 35% so you can have a longer execute
also pressing the poison bomb button morei
@ebon tapir are you kidding?
@ebon tapir https://snag.gy/haMULb.jpg
maybe try reading the guide and come back in a week
ty bb
Opening with Mutilate in 2018 
This is the most fucked up opener I ever seen
boy i know this is the assasination chat but he's already dead fellas
I looked at all pulls, he's near 970 and doesn't even know the buttons
either trolling or plain lazy
yeah nah, i really didnt know Ill check the guide thanks fellas
err
yeh
you wil get a better reception if you ask specific question then just generic one
but worry about basic shit before you go into advanced questoins
Anyone know how to setup proper raid/party frames like for esxample fragnance outside elvui?
kinda sick of blizz ones and cba with zperl ๐
I use bdgrid
idk, get a raid frame addon? ๐คท
06:00 am in the morning and Zempai's already toxic af โค
true, since he never sleeps because it's a dps loss ๐
to be fair it wasnt that bad and the guy took it decently well
im not sure why youd get mad at someone who took some time to look at shit for you though
you get shanked with 
which i see a fair bit which is weird
wall of text inc
@golden tulip tbh that's a pretty dumb setup even if it looks cool
For my taste it's lacking on group sorting - because let's say groups are assigned to do mechanics and somebody dies ... you could handle that ability without the RL calling you out because you actually see it rather than play like a blind potato
doing mechanics LUL
It is not the about being blind potato
i don't even look at it tbh
i just want to remove those fuckin blizzard
because i need more space
even playing high res
visit curse and look for raidframes ๐คท๐ป
if you don't look at it why don't you remove it from your ui?
What i want it's like
maybe i'm shit at explaining stuff
- name
- name
- name
- name
- name
small but visible to push keys
cause that's all i do tbh
with %
on the bars
not mana/hp and avatar and shit
Sorrry for acting dumb but with ui i'm dumb :\
Do we have to link you the curse website or are you capable of maneuvering your cursor around the internet?
I deserve that, thanks babe

;D
that's what bdgrid looks like https://clips.twitch.tv/DependableEnjoyablePuddingMrDestructoid
that clicking action, so good ๐ โค
Swiss precision 
I checked my Talents and the Rotation and yeah a couple of those were lazy heroic ones so they were retarded. But I changed the rotation and I am already seeing improvements so ty
How much mastery should you have as an assassination rogue, before you start stacking crit?
sim yourself, we dont have breakpoints or softcaps
like many classes, but ppl like to stack those imaginary numbers ๐
So i am running with 200% mastery and 22% crit
if you sim and the stats weight of your char tell you that crit is better than mastery, you can switch mastery for crit
if mastery is still top1 stat for you, you stack more ๐
Thanks
There are no soft caps? 
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another super funny day at work
Hey boys i was wondering how is ass in terms of like a "skill cap" or difficulty to master
pretty low skill floor
on a scale from 0 to 100, 99
almost impossible to play
Boomie is boring
Sin is probably the lowest apm rogue spec
easiest to pick up though
and there are like 4 viable builds at end game
Low apm is cool im used to feral so
Poison which is the most common, is mostly about maintaining 2 debuffs and a buff and playing around like 4 cds
3 of which you basically use when they come up
but yeah its pretty easy to play for the most part
Isnt poison "strongest " build
I don't think so at like 980 ish
poison dps variance is quite high due to Poison Bomb procs
so can be highest or lowest
alac/bleed sim higher averagely
but poison bomb turns the bell curve of that build into a sombrero
Thats fair
"probably" last I looked it's the lowest or second lowest out of every spec in the game.
In terms of APM*
I thought that was some old DPS chart and was wondering why SIN was on it at all?
as usual
I remember a period in time when the only entry on the chart was a bugged SIN spec.
and it was still bottom 5.
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So why the fuck does no one play Demonology?
Fury being hidden shit was hilarious though.
prob because there are 2 buttons to push and pushing 1 as affl is better
bahaha, nah there are more buttons.
Over-Under that Furty is the guide author on IV?
80% ^
Here's your fucking priority list ...
no thanks.
ha
Demo can only really do ST and is punished with movement
It's similar to SIN in that it's entirely resource management.
Yeah bad movement leads to poor sustain.
200 IQ priority list
INB4 fucking Demo in MDI
If their sustain is good and you have great melee cleave/aoe
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Who knows.
The APL does break down to SUMMON DEMONS;
EMPOWER THEM;
HoG @ 4+;
CDs;
Shadow Bolt;
Oh if you have 6 demons SPAM EMPOWER
JUST FUCKING HIT IT
Also Doom is in there near the top.
They just have like... 12 fucking buttons.
13
It's why I stopped playing it
Yeah it 's a lot.
lul
_>"
This looks SIMILAR > _> ;
Build to 4, use Finisher > _>
Miiiiight level my Warlock...
sounds so much sinnish
Good morning
That's only after 4pT21 though.
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Water buffalo ๐
Yeah water buffalo... that's what I wanted.
Anyway, the ramp for DEMO seems extremely low as well, opener burst is tiny, variance is tiny.
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Majestic creatures man.
Had to double soak on aggra yday
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That shit was no fun at all
0%
0% fun

You don't even have to run everytime
Theyโve always been Eu
Oh then guilds then?
I remember them moving recently.
"recently"
I imagine some issue with clearing content.
Their previous guild changed leadership
So they left
Formed their own guild
Itโs like 80% of the previous guild
But with them leading
Nice.
And not 5 Days a week
They seem nice.
We have an Asian guy in the guild so on coven our RL was calling everything in a terrible Chinese accent
A FAMILIAR SIGHT
Like herro kind of thing
Fucking, mouseover, get outta there.
1 relic to rule them all.
and you can have 2 without fucking yourself, that's nice.
I sure love relic imbalancement
Bonus if you thereโs no relic in the raid with the best trait
Ala warrior style
So you gotta yolo
Always fun
Also the hunter is 950
Itโs gonna clear M today
Poggers
Hawt.
oh is that the demon hunter one?
My Monk was like 890 last week, not that anymore > _>
I've heard their relic traits are supe rimbalanced
That is Demonology Relics.
I imagine DH is the same.
What with Eye Beam being their entire spec now.
BM hunter is super imba too
Just a bit
Chaos Strike relic though
u cock sucker
BORING
haha tanking relic CHODES.
The nightbaby 4% wasnt it
NICE
Warrior is actually such a broken class
The concept of doing meh damage the entire fight
Looks like 95
Then doing like 8M dps in the last 20%
here is spriest
Yeah things are mostly fine.
It's just when a class/spec relies on ONE THING too much and there's a relic that boosts it.
Things get out of hand.
As one would expect.
Yeah probably leveling warlock next.
Neat.
probs gonna gear out elemental shaman
but I'd love to play my resto druid for raid if my guild let me ._.
I need to see the healing profile for BfA before doing anything on my Shaman =\
Fall over when anything looks at you > _>
I'd rather play my rogue on ST anyways
....MMMMaybe
but for AoE I kinda wanna do something else
I love pryda
Shh
Bis for BM
nah
Did get a shit leggo from vendor yday
HANDS THOU
My lucky streak is over
jesus frickin heck dood
More defensive shit for my shit mage.
Not bis for st but bis for m+
Not having all of them
but I raid log these days

Bracers are an excellent first leggo for WW though, so it's dope.
Oh it was first
I started playing again in like end of NH/tart of ToS ๐คท
Yeah good start
cause WoD made me hate pvp so much I quit for a while
We have a glad in my guild
Top 10 even
I mean if you are playing WoW for just PVP...
now its poop
you're braindamaged.
Yep
Go play fucking...
Battlerite
Has the best mmo pvp
GW2 in the beginning was fine, no idea where it is now.
The bgs are super dope
GW PVP was also entirely great.
The combat is so fun
Did what Blizzard should have done like a decade ago.
Wpvp is p trash
Quite.
Would def recommend
Itโs free too
And pvp scales you up in levels
So you can do max level pvp from level 1
I mean if you wanna PVP, don't pick an MMO and you have better choices.
Well sure
/wrists
Even gave like 50 bucks
19827398127 queue, never moved.
Yeah.
Glad I didn't, frankly.
But the end game was lackluster tbh
Yeah.
I maxed then there was almost nothing to do
Def fun question system when the servers were lagging
Questing*
Terrible launch killed the game
It wasnโt even half bad tho
My favorite thing was how they thought it was fine to launch Vanilla WoW tagging rules in 2016.
and had effectively 0 sharding/instancing cause I guess it would have broken the experience.
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The housing was dope.
Yeah
uhhuh Prince Tahm, anything for you M'lord.
GW2 was dope when you could infinitely server hop for PVP.
and shutdown Ruin entirely.
Yeah
No I had my time in GW2.
I prefer FPS PVP.
Yeah
The good news is that it doesn't really go away.
If I had more than 100 hours in fps as a whole genre Iโd be surprised
So that says a lot
mmm
About how much Iโve played fps
I actually lied.
My prefered PVP...
is analog TCG's > _>
Fucking... nerds.
HyperNerd, here to die a virgin.
get fukt MB > _>
Best part of MDI is this though;
L U L
Big fan of tcgs as well
Played yu gi oh for a long time
Then magic
And now HS
Watching coco with the kids
Lmao
It's chill, but not really what I look for in a card game.
and not a little amount either
oh you guys ever played munchkin?
Itโs like 250
Yerp.
Yo mize help me out
my friend got the munchkin TCG
I hung out at card/comic book shops for like... 15 years.
which is actually pretty fun
Munchkin is SO GOOD
FLUX is a dope little card game.
Whaddaya need Tomme?
Itโs uploading@
mmm
I KICK IN THE GODDAMN DOOR IN ITS WHORE MOUTH
Used to play that all the time in middle/high school man.
Get that VGA Shit the fuck outta here you loon.
Do I plug this into monitor one or computer 1
A laptop to the projector
Monitor out should work
never actually played munchkin, none of my friends were really brick and mortar nerds
which I'm very sad about
Ok dope ty
Either that or the Comp 1 line.
Brick and morters died kinda hard, lucky enough to live in SCG though.
So I play whatever the fuck I want.
live NEAR SCG.
Fuck.
and three other card shops.
_>
mmm
my brother just used to beat the shit outta me and the +6 years means I couldnt fight back
but we good now
Builds "character".
I just went to his wedding
But
I was a groomsman
A year or so ago
We both like to type short sentences and stack them ๐คท
better that than a paragraph
Yeah and compete the same fucking sentence.
Where some kid was roughing him up
I just went to his wedding, but, I was a groomsman. A year or so ago, and he had... AN OPEN BAR.
And I beat the shit out of the kid
My brother realized that whilst I was sorta mean to him he was stil lfamily
Then he got into wow
And we bonded over that
Sure
Nowadays we have a cool relationship
My brother knocked a golfball into a neighbors window...
Either that or heโs pretending to be my friend to poison me
and tried to run away.
Lmao
He did not get to run away.
My brothers into wow, he just made a rogue alt.
Crige
Cringe*
Never let them play your class
So you can look cool
Also link him CE
Well, we both started playing wow around the same time.
Know what I said to my brother when he wanted to play WoW?
I just call him garbage
โDonโtโ
"I don't want anything to do with that."
Ahahah
Made him much better. Rather than asking me fucking everything.
He asked for/found sources and looked for himself.
Mucho character building.
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My brother and I grew up with one computer so I spent a lot of time just watching him play cause I had nothing else to do.
Asking for something you can look for yourself is not a sign of intelligence
My 6th grade teacher taught me that one
I mean depending on how easy both options are^^
That's why he didn't ask questions about something he knew he could look up.
I bought my little brother wow, the 10 euro or smt pack
He logged on did one quest and never logged back on
Smart kid.
Many an argument with my brothers when we had a shared computer

Ungrateful little shit
Three?
One for each brother
OK PRINCE TOM
Lucky
JESUS CHRIST
Ahaha
Did you know our house is so big that we need 2 routers
We are not worthy Tom
Did you know I programmed the firmware on my current router?
Sometimes Iโm doing WhatsApp calls
And they disconnect
Cuz Iโm changing floors
The true definition
Poor network infrastructure you have there.
Of a first world problem
We eventually had 3 desktops, but one was a computer from like 1997 that my mom used for email.
my brother got a pc then I later got one too
Ahaha
Don't you just hate it when your call drops on whatsapp because the wifi doesnt reach the 7th floor ๐
Same
It doesn't even reach...
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We have 3 routers









