assassination

[manic vigil]

who the fuck are you

[vapid moth]

Lmao

[manic vigil]

go away

[vapid moth]

Don't do me like that umi

[manic vigil]

oh I know you like it

[spare cloud]

last time I used leeching poison was for artifact challenge

[vapid moth]

Last time I used cheat death was for kj

[spare cloud]

chest death

[vapid moth]

I don't get one shot so

[spare cloud]

How do I play NS without shoulders again

[vapid moth]

You dont

[manic vigil]

why not

[spiral kernel]

you go for an empowered rupture afaik

[vapid moth]

Cause shoulders are life

[manic vigil]

still envenom in the opener actually

I talked about that with weak a while back

first vanish envenom then rupture

[vapid moth]

Or always envenom if you wanna play the gambling game

[manic vigil]

in my non-t20 boots/bracers setup NS and SF actually sim for the same

[spare cloud]

I was just joking btw

[manic vigil]

so just sf for multi target and ns for st, easy

rude

[vapid moth]

Sin rogues are always the rudest

[dire spoke]

shut up

[sinful marsh]

Dude in M ToS Pug just bonus rolled this...

[spare cloud]

Nice

[prime void]

Bleedy boi inc

Shoulders are the basic life

Like a beverly hills girl

[manic vigil]

[prime void]

Hi uni

[manic vigil]

Hey

[fervent beacon]

Feelsgoodman

Finished D2 raid

Holy fuck, the discord I joined has a lot of emoji 👀

Ready to look at your logs for meme

[prime void]

^ 🤔

[dire spoke]

looks like weakauras discord

[fervent beacon]

Nah, its Destiny 2 LFG discord

cuz my clan is shit and isn't active

[manic vigil]

[fervent beacon]

[manic vigil]

[vapid moth]

You ever think blizz looks at some tier sets and straight up says "you know. I want this spec to dominate this raid"

[dire spoke]

that's why they remove that

[strange python]

@vapid moth They defenetly do that

i mean seriously, if we didn;t have OP stuff the game would be boring

or rather imbalances

[prime void]

🤔

[fervent beacon]

[prime void]

"If we didnt have OP stuff, the game would be imbalanced.

Thats a new one

[hidden kelp]

well shit, i'll take it

[strange python]

@prime void How in gods name did you understand that...???

[prime void]

🤔

[steep salmon]

is it worth it to envenom at 3cp when KB is active to not drop envenom buff?

[main storm]

I would say yes. And more important is to ABSOLUTLY keep the env buff for the last tick from kb. But wait a little u will get better response than mine.

[leaden sail]

looking for someone to look through some logs 👌🏻

rogue bud i usually talk to is asleep

[astral sundial]

@main storm why would it be important to keep envenom for the last tick? I think you are confusing it with surge of toxins.

[fervent beacon]

Run Alacrity, never having to worry about dropping it

🤷

[main storm]

Sot is important too. But the env buff is important too because u gain 30% chance to apply more poison to the target witch is actually 15% more dmg per application to ur KB dmh

Not sure about the % but the idea is there

[astral sundial]

you gain 30% chance to apply on hit which is 50% extra chance in total. but the way I understood KB, the base damage gets buffed by 15% and not the total

[turbid harbor]

kb damage ramps so it's more important to have envenom buff for the start than the end

[astral sundial]

^

[prime void]

More important for end

I thought ?

[astral sundial]

Envenom buff at the end is less impactful overall cuz you only gain 15% of the base dmg

while SoT for example

buff the tick for 10% of the total

[prime void]

Its going to have SoT the whole time

[turbid harbor]

when you get a poison application you get a 15% bonus damage to kingsbane

[prime void]

Thats a non issue

[turbid harbor]

the more procs you get earlier the better

because it buffs more seconds of the kingsbane

[prime void]

Ye I get it

I have env up always for KB

Guess I just didnt fully get it

[astral sundial]

point is that if you had 50 DP applications

another DP application for KB at the end

[main storm]

Yes but kb tick stronger at the end so its important to do everything to buff ur very last tick of kb

[astral sundial]

won't add much

draka you forget that DP bonus is additive

it's like saying

I better do 20k dps at this point in time

but when trying to buff kingsbane the idea is "I better buff my dmg by x% at this point in time"

[main storm]

The question is "is it important to env at 3+ to keep env buff during kb ?" I would say yes. Why ? Because the time of env buff stack to 7 or 8 sec. Means u wont env at 3+ 10 times. U can easily stack the env buff to reach the time left of ur kb and then keep going for env at 4+ (sorry for approfimativ language)

[plain thistle]

4+

you envenom at 4+ even during KB

its easy enough to keep the buff all time, just save for energy for it

[astral sundial]

@main storm for sure, I don't try to argue abotu that. it is the "more importent the end of KB" part which botherd me, when it is actually the least importent at that stage

[main storm]

I doubt u can maintain sot buff with 4+ env only during kb. Can u ?

[astral sundial]

yes you can

[main storm]

Ok then i will try it.

I often lose my env buff early if i don t do some 3+ env. Thats why. But if u say i can go 4+ during kb then i will try it 😀

[astral sundial]

I think you lose it since you do 3+ envenoms

in the long run it is easier to keep up the more combo points you use per cast

[main storm]

Yeah that is correct. U are probably right. I will try it now.

Thanks for ur time btw

[astral sundial]

lol no worries, usually I am the one with all the questions, it just the pros are sleeping now 😛

[prime void]

Whats your crit draka

[main storm]

Can t remember. Probably around 30% to 35%. Im coming back to my rogue since 1 week after a 1 year break because we needed a hpal in the roster.

[prime void]

Tier?

[zealous dew]

😃

[gaunt moat]

Ran just 🔥 all of you

[prime void]

🤔

[plain thistle]

[shrewd oriole]

Morning

[prime void]

Hi.

Living the dream now tom

[safe matrix]

you finally killed argus?

[prime void]

Single and going to college. Woohoo

[safe matrix]

oh

[prime void]

Rip

[safe matrix]

but what about mr argus

is he still giving you the dick

[prime void]

Argus still alive👍

[safe matrix]

You don't need a girlfriend

when mr argus

is laying pipe into you guys

every week

[prime void]

Argus rapes me

Legit

New tank likes to scythe my rage spot

So I just get the dickin

[safe matrix]

Look mr. argus right in the eyes

and tell him to stop

use your firm voice

[prime void]

Yeah lul

Tbh I thing the guikd coukd fall apart if we dont koll today

[astral sundial]

if it can fall apart during progress on last boss, might not hold for BFA even if you do get it today : /

[safe matrix]

just go to like midwinter or something

[prime void]

Could

Tbh

[safe matrix]

I hear they're horde now

[prime void]

Too much loyalty

[safe matrix]

I feel you

[prime void]

Weve failed st CE 3 tiers in a row

As in only didnt kill last boss

[safe matrix]

FeelsBadMan

[prime void]

Ive had offers from t50

But meh.

[spare cloud]

[safe matrix]

I just need to stop raid logging

maybe update my parses too

then maybe someone would want me 😢

[astral sundial]

what do you mean by "raid logging"?

[safe matrix]

Logging in for just raid

like that's really the only time I log into wow these days

[prime void]

And to flirt with me

Be happy bb

Wake up happy

You're a wonderful player. Not a no name

[flint fable]

🍆

[prime void]

Gachi we need more eggplants in zongo disc

[flint fable]

on it

[prime void]

Ty Bb

Nicely done

[zealous dew]

52!

[shrewd oriole]

[frozen pecan]

what up dudes

dead channel?

[shrewd oriole]

Mods finally banned all words

We can only communicate through emojis

[safe matrix]

[frozen pecan]

♿

[gaunt moat]

actually you can't do that

you need to communicate by non-communicative thoughts

[quick ice]

🤔

[prime void]

Probably keep more braincells that way

[dire spoke]

does anyone have this ww monk weakauras gif?

[prime void]

?

[dire spoke]

this sick asian UI

[quick ice]

I think I know the one you mean

with all the graphics and whatnot that feels super monk-y?

[dire spoke]

yeah hahah

[quick ice]

thought it was on my guild's discord somewhere

but I can't find it

[prime void]

Oh ive seen rhat

[dire spoke]

oh I got it https://media.wago.io/screenshots/Hk7-CC40W/1509624022703-t11.gif

[shrewd oriole]

That ui is so extra

[prime void]

Tom

Pray for the argus kill 😂😂

If I can make it home without dying

[frozen pecan]

lmao wtf is that monk ui

[dire spoke]

you can actually download a part of that https://wago.io/B1pLWH_-f

[gaunt moat]

the thing about that UI, is that i don't understand about 80% of what it's trying to show

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t even know if I want you to kill it at this point

The 600 wipes meme is so good

[zealous dew]

that's hyper complex math to do 1k more dps

[shrewd oriole]

But imagine the world first 1000 wipes meme

Monk has a ton of small odd min maxing

[gaunt moat]

my old guild are at 450~ now

[safe matrix]

Race for world first 1k wipes

[shrewd oriole]

It’s honestly a pretty hard class to play

When you’re wearing chest obviously

[zealous dew]

what monk ?

[safe matrix]

I bet even a monkey could do it

Get it

Monkey?

[zealous dew]

awesome man

[shrewd oriole]

MONKey

[safe matrix]

Monk ey??

[shrewd oriole]

[zealous dew]

the key is to play a mon

[shrewd oriole]

This one is pretty cool

[prime void]

Meh we'd fall apart before 1k

[shrewd oriole]

It’s like a melting omegaLUL

[safe matrix]

[prime void]

Too many egos

[shrewd oriole]

Nitro was a solid purchase

[safe matrix]

I like this one the most

[shrewd oriole]

Logan Paul dabbing

[zealous dew]

🏆

[safe matrix]

Because I drew it, and once upon a time it was a twitch emote

I'm basically famous

[frozen pecan]

it's important to have a logan paul dab in your emote repertory

[shrewd oriole]

Indeed

[humble crane]

Any reason why someone would use the opener TB >KB > Rup > Mut > enven > gar?

[safe matrix]

No?

[shrewd oriole]

They’re dumb

That’s a solid reason

[humble crane]

Just looking at the number 1 dps on kin

mythic

[shrewd oriole]

[humble crane]

Thats his opener

Cant be that dumb =/

[shrewd oriole]

Yes it can

[prime void]

Heard of bomb

[shrewd oriole]

It’s called poison bomb

[prime void]

Dyring vanish

On adds

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

KEK

[safe matrix]

What is his poison bomb%?

[prime void]

R1ing as sin is a fucking meme

[shrewd oriole]

100% crit 100% increase damage

[humble crane]

lets have a look

[shrewd oriole]

[prime void]

[thorn pasture]

am i better off playing sub until i have 4 set antorus or is assa still stronger?

[frozen pecan]

I need nitro

[shrewd oriole]

Right?

[prime void]

So buy it

[shrewd oriole]

I finally pulled the trigger yday

[frozen pecan]

yes

[humble crane]

13.5% lol what a guy

[shrewd oriole]

@thorn pasture nah play assa

[prime void]

Wow crazy

Kappa

[shrewd oriole]

Average is below 8%

He got 13%

Hmm

[prime void]

My average is 5 kek

[shrewd oriole]

I think we found it boys

Really? That low?

[humble crane]

I know the average, I am just wondering why he is using that opener. Koreans, who knows

[shrewd oriole]

Are you bleedy boy

[prime void]

Tom

[thorn pasture]

he had 1022 poison bombs D:

[prime void]

How tf do you not know what I play

[shrewd oriole]

@humble crane the opener is wrong tbh just because he got r1 using it doesn’t mean it’s correct

[thorn pasture]

102*

[safe matrix]

Could be just so he has tb/kb for first adds

Something with timing

[shrewd oriole]

Nah you get Tb kb anyway

[safe matrix]

Or he could be stupid

You never know

[prime void]

Tom i play insig bracers

[shrewd oriole]

Adds spawn 35 secs in

Oh really?

[prime void]

Insig boots

Sorry dad

[humble crane]

Yeah id just not seen that opener before, just wanted to discuss it lol

[shrewd oriole]

Is your average in simcraft really 5%?

[prime void]

Insig boots******

[shrewd oriole]

Nice shit build LUL

[prime void]

Yeah

It is

Not pb dependent

Feela good

[shrewd oriole]

@humble crane he’s rupturing inside his first Tb

It’s a huge dps loss

[humble crane]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aJP8N3pnBrMfF2A1#fight=35&type=damage-done&source=62

Yeah

Its weird

[safe matrix]

I mean it's not playing perfectly

[humble crane]

You know

[shrewd oriole]

I know

[humble crane]

His outlaw guildmate beat him by 11k dps

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

Koreans

[humble crane]

He fucked up rank 1 rogues all specs

[safe matrix]

I did see that

[prime void]

Rng

Again

R1 for ya

[shrewd oriole]

He would’ve gotten those 10k if he had opener properly

LUL

[humble crane]

But, maybe if he used the correct opener!

[prime void]

4 hours left

Then home

Not doing drivr this long for awhile

[jovial kite]

Im on phone

Did he open on add with that

Or on boss

Tb kb

[lucid carbon]

Whats up memeboys

[jovial kite]

its a solid log nevertheless

Nice use of horn and arcwayring to buff dmg when u have the most output

[frozen pecan]

he opened with that on kinga

[median marsh]

we have 130 wipes and only 2 attempts below 70% on agrammar, how many more hundreds of wipes I'm looking at? :/

[shrewd oriole]

You’re looking at a guild disband

[frozen pecan]

lul

like 10 more I'd say

[shrewd oriole]

What kind of absolute apes are you playing with

120 wipes to the beginning of intermission

[median marsh]

dunno, maybe we need more dks

[shrewd oriole]

You’re not wiping to lack of dos

Dks*

If you are wiping that early

How many dks do you have?

[median marsh]

1

[shrewd oriole]

Is he blood?

[median marsh]

1-2-3 people are dying when 4th-5th adds explode

yes

[shrewd oriole]

It’s do able then

[jovial kite]

subpar healers

[shrewd oriole]

^

[jovial kite]

All you need there is a hpal auramastery

[shrewd oriole]

Nicer terms than I would’ve used

[jovial kite]

Rather be factual while not being offensive 🤷

[frozen pecan]

being offensive is fun tho 😟

[median marsh]

we have hpal, I don't know

[drifting crypt]

is he pressing his buttons?

[median marsh]

she's a girl, being a healer is her calling

[frozen pecan]

legit question

lmao

[shrewd oriole]

There’s your problem

It’s a girl

[median marsh]

we're not dying to the lack of aura mastery tho

[shrewd oriole]

[frozen pecan]

I she cute or fat?

*is

[median marsh]

dunno man, I just work here

[shrewd oriole]

You’re dying at the point where AM should by carrying

[median marsh]

it's more like no stacks, 1 add enters agrammar, overlaps with whatever aoe ranged are dealing with and they die

[drifting crypt]

then your ranged are bonobos and dont spread

[jovial kite]

i mean

We do it let 2 through in intermission

AM

intermission ends

Grip 2

Spotheal ranged

[median marsh]

we do the same

[quick ice]

probably need to ask your range to stop eating meteors then?

[jovial kite]

so why are your ranged dying

[shrewd oriole]

How do you have 120 wipes to the same thing and not go over logs to fix it

Call people out, change your strat

Something

[jovial kite]

Does your ranged die in intermission?

[median marsh]

so it is like this: 2 adds are sped up + healing CD, big adds die, 2 more adds blow (1 guy might die here), 1 more add blow (2 guys die here)

with no more than 2 stacks

[jovial kite]

Btw the window for AM is around 3 sec in that situation

Misplaced am

its misplaced am

Nobody can die if you place it right

Its literally 2-3 sec window

[median marsh]

use it when?

[jovial kite]

Otherwise its down the drain

[median marsh]

2nd set of 2 adds?

[jovial kite]

no, 1st set and overlap raidwide dmg from adds

Am carries you through the intermission

After the stacks have fallen with am

Noone should die

Am 1st set tranq 2nd

I mean

Nobody can die 😄

[median marsh]

pretty sure we use tranq1, am 2nd

[jovial kite]

thats wrong

[median marsh]

and disc always light wraths cause he calls for innervate

[jovial kite]

1st set is more throughput required

Because you have the aoe raidwide during adds

Yeah

2nd tranq should be enough

By far

But am needs to be in 1st

like i said, ur am is misplaced 😄

[median marsh]

ok, thanks

[frozen pecan]

now you kill it, in the next 10 trys as I said

[median marsh]

I don't know pala, what aura do you use it with?

to make sure she's not bad

[zealous dew]

sac

[astral sundial]

anyone got a good vod of coven heroic? I mess this fight so badly multi-dotting wise

[median marsh]

@jovial kite, when is that 2-3 sec window when aura mastery should be used?

[jovial kite]

Just as the adds explode

Am on

And hpal push as much as she can

gets 15% divided to whole raid

should cover the initial explosion plus anything from stacks + aoe

like, am has no value if the healer doesnt push healing

It should def be more than a tranq

also should heal through spikes of dmg

Whereas tranq is a wet noodle

Im on phone but check this for reference

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rFgVfDTtvG2McQP6#fight=2&type=healing

@median marsh

should be the right log

But like

Its also advisable to use hpotion and personals there

As you have lust for 2nd intermission its way easier

[median marsh]

ok, thanks

[frozen pecan]

why is there a pizza in the middle of that explanation lol

[jovial kite]

i was hungry

[zealous dew]

that looks like a good pizza

[jovial kite]

It is

Pollo americana

Godtier

[sand whale]

why is there a knife and fork next to a pizza

[zealous dew]

😃

need to cut the slices, then use the hands

[spare cloud]

You just roll it up and eat it like a hotdog

[jovial kite]

like a proper savage

[zealous dew]

oh come on, buy a calzone if you want to do that

[spare cloud]

Thats lame

[zealous dew]

gnam

[sand whale]

now I'm hungry but only have instanoodles

[jovial kite]

[zealous dew]

rip...

[shrewd oriole]

Wtf that pizza looks great stop

[spare cloud]

I think im getting pizza when im going home from work

[jovial kite]

Mission success

[zealous dew]

i shoul open a pizza store

and then promote my rogue pizza here

[quick ice]

sin has always been cooking channel

[jovial kite]

Still waiting for @naya cookingn strim

[zealous dew]

mmm interesting, he could start a cooking channel, baked dagger on a lettuce bed

[shrewd oriole]

We are getting new emojis

Gonna have to use this one when someone asks a Q that’s in the pins

[frosty robin]

doggooos

[quick ice]

nice doggos

[faint vale]

Its a woofer, not a doggo

[gaunt moat]

clearly a doggo to left

[faint vale]

Nvm there is also a doggo. Forgot the one in the top

[zealous dew]

shibe

is the best

[quick ice]

sploot pls

[spare cloud]

German rh more active than assa chat

[zealous dew]

Garmin ?

what do you expect from a dead spec of a dead class in a dead game ?

[shrewd oriole]

Assa is p alive

[pale zodiac]

Hey guys, 1 question, in what bosses do u use boots instead mantle?

[astral sundial]

lol

[shrewd oriole]

It’s like good spec of a dead class in a dead game in a dead world

[astral sundial]

trolling to wake ppl up

[shrewd oriole]

@pale zodiac none but it’s a personal choice

You can use them in none you can use them in all

[gilded lark]

[shrewd oriole]

You can use them in a few

[zealous dew]

my bad i'll rephrase, a mediocre spec(raiding only) of a dead class in a dead game (till sept I guess) of a small Indie company in a dead world

[shrewd oriole]

It depends on your gear, personal preference, kill time

[pale zodiac]

hmm

im simming better now with boots

but

i lose a lot mastery and gain a lot vers

[shrewd oriole]

How much better

[zealous dew]

maybe you haz bad offpieces boots

[pale zodiac]

like

[zealous dew]

and good wrists

[pale zodiac]

10k dps

not a lot

[zealous dew]

-.-

[astral sundial]

@pale zodiac I sim better without mantle, but still make sure to use mantle on any fights involving AoE

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah that’s enough that you don’t need to care

Use whatever you want

All legos are p close

[zealous dew]

crown / wrists ftw

super fluid KB usage

[shrewd oriole]

Crown wrists mantle insígnia boots

Pick 2, knock yourself out

[pale zodiac]

@zealous dew thats true, i have a bad boots

940

xD

[zealous dew]

i have bad wrists

and i will never remove wrists

the moment a scrub dies you gain value

and a lot of scrubs die

[pale zodiac]

hahaha

okay

thanks guys

^^

[zealous dew]

try crown as well if you have good shoulders and good crit

[astral sundial]

@zealous dew guess I will never use wrists then cuz have to be alive when boss is at 30% 😦

[pale zodiac]

i have 945 crit mastery and 960 crit vers with socket

[gilded lark]

Have you tried not dying

[zealous dew]

how can a rogue die ?

you got aggro from boss?

[astral sundial]

I like fire

[gilded lark]

You can cloak fire

[zealous dew]

lulz

[astral sundial]

ye but cloak have less uptime then fire

[zealous dew]

you can feint fire

or you can valeera's fire

[gilded lark]

Ill rephrase

[astral sundial]

so valeera+wrist new meta

[gilded lark]

Have you tried not being shit

Valeera+prydaz

[zealous dew]

mandatory prydaz for kg

[quick ice]

the way my raid does kg, not even a prydaz will save you

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[quick ice]

100% ISIS

[shrewd oriole]

Go leeching on kg

It’s p poggers

[quick ice]

nah, too busy surviving our resident suicide bombers with cheat death 😦

[gilded lark]

Leeching, valeeras, prydaz. R1 healing logs

[zealous dew]

allarh @ bar

[astral sundial]

prydaz counts as healing on logs? >>

[zealous dew]

yep

[shrewd oriole]

Aloha snackbar

[zealous dew]

good call though pry + valeera + leeching

gonna try it

[astral sundial]

if you want max healing preaty sure you want a dps legendary to go with your leeching ^^

[quick ice]

and some nice gentle fire to stand in

[shrewd oriole]

Leech in fight where there’s damage

Constantly

Valeera in fights where there’s not

Stack haste versa with valeera

[astral sundial]

I am sure you can find dmg in every fight if you just look for it ^^

[shrewd oriole]

Haste for more energy regen

Versa for more healing

[astral sundial]

so alacrity for rank 1 healing

[sharp viper]

stacking versa decreases the dmg you take as well so less to heal

[shrewd oriole]

Hmm true...

We should sim the healing build

[sharp viper]

stamina is also a stat, let's you take more dmg and thus heal more

[spare cloud]

Ask flowi he has many 100% healing logs

[sharp viper]

and it scales with prydaz

[spare cloud]

Also isnt crimsom vial % hp

[shrewd oriole]

Ye

[spare cloud]

More stamina more heal

[gilded lark]

equip all ilevel gear

wew

[spare cloud]

Tyra inb4 985

[glad ferry]

any crazy sin news today peeps?

[shrewd oriole]

A healthy breakfast

[spare cloud]

Did they finally figure out if you should fok at 4cp

[lone junco]

🔮

magic 8ball says maybe.

[spare cloud]

Seems reasonable

[shrewd oriole]

My lunch break is two hours

[lone junco]

you work?

isnt that for poor people

[calm grail]

Am work.

[shrewd oriole]

During vacations I always work man

[lone junco]

good plan.

[shrewd oriole]

Helps pay my sneaker addiction

And it’s good fun / experience

[spare cloud]

Im done with my work in 1h gonna get nice pizza

[lone junco]

if you position yourself nicely, you can meet ladies

no warehouse bullshit

[shrewd oriole]

Working at a primary school

It’s all ladies here

[lone junco]

teachers

[shrewd oriole]

😂

[spare cloud]

What do you even teach

[shrewd oriole]

It’s “summer school”

[calm grail]

Summer school, what do you mean??n?nn!

[lone junco]

english to 5th graders would be pretty easy

[shrewd oriole]

So im helping out with activities like painting flowers, music class, English class etc

[calm grail]

Ohhh, you didn't mean right now, you meant later on.

[shrewd oriole]

Not actual subjects

[calm grail]

I was going to say, it's still cold as shit here in definitely not summer.

[spare cloud]

Teaching english as portuguese guy im great britain

[calm grail]

And*

[shrewd oriole]

@calm grail nah it’s like spring break school

[lone junco]

my buddy went to japan for 2yrs to teach english to little kids. paid really well, and he had a blast

[shrewd oriole]

The school stays open during spring break much like summer school but it’s not classes

Just activities

[calm grail]

Nice.

[spare cloud]

Ahh tom its alright if you still go to summer school

[shrewd oriole]

lol

Fuck you caught me

I’m still in high school

20 btw

[calm grail]

HOLY SHIT

[spare cloud]

Offended

[lone junco]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-NF0cxxxH4VTlS

[calm grail]

sTOMp is tom?

[shrewd oriole]

Hmm

[calm grail]

I was gone for like a week and I get bamboozled

[spare cloud]

No

[lone junco]

tom is beast hunter now

[shrewd oriole]

sTOMp

s T O M p

🕵️‍♂️ we need to dig deeper

[calm grail]

Yeah I get it now

[spare cloud]

sTOMp

Is tisumi

[dire spoke]

who is Tisumi

[shrewd oriole]

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

No name btw

[lone junco]

new bleed pro

[spare cloud]

Yeh right

[calm grail]

I forgot that you change your name all the time, I thought that Tom finally went silent

[lone junco]

in lfr lol

[shrewd oriole]

Wow....

[calm grail]

My immersion is ruined.

[frozen pecan]

tom changes his name like diapers but you'll always notice it's him after a few messages lul

[lone junco]

tom got the 🔇 for a day

but he is good boi now

[shrewd oriole]

Wasn’t even a day

A few hours

[frozen pecan]

🎸

[spare cloud]

Hes hiding

So he doesnt get muted

Dont blow his cover

[shrewd oriole]

Unrightfully só according to FD

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole is beast toolkit good or nah?

[shrewd oriole]

Some photos from the club we went to Friday night

[spare cloud]

Why

[calm grail]

Oh shit, method if you zoom in on that profile picture you can see a beta

[spare cloud]

Can you please remove that picture

[lone junco]

ive never played hunter. so i just imagine that it is decent. One of ours can do really high single

[frozen pecan]

😵

[shrewd oriole]

@lone junco yeah it’s fun as heck tbh

[calm grail]

I can't believe I was been tricked for so long.

[shrewd oriole]

Mm is meh

BM is cool

[frozen pecan]

I'm blind

[shrewd oriole]

Mm on alpha is insanely fun

[spare cloud]

Mods can you block tom from attaching files

[lone junco]

Im having fun on lock, i havent been ranged since BT

[shrewd oriole]

Fixed

[dire spoke]

I'm afraid to change my name back to Zempai only, because ppl could think I stopped clicking

[spare cloud]

Nah

[calm grail]

MM looks pretty cool.

[spare cloud]

Still seeing you keyboardturning in raids

[calm grail]

Did the babies who swapped to Beast mastery, just swap because they don't like movement mechanics?

[dire spoke]

oh right

[calm grail]

Have there been any BM Argus kills?

[spare cloud]

Im not sure if youre trolling

[calm grail]

(I'm too lazy to look)

[spare cloud]

Judging from what you said previously ill just assume youre playing dumb

But pulling the xaethron isnt the best thing to do

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah there have

argus is one of the better BM bosses

Mm loses a crap load of dps with movement

The more you move, the closer the specs are

BM is competitive in a lot of bosses

[calm grail]

Simple, just stop moving.

[shrewd oriole]

It’s more fun to play personally

Not that either are particularly intricate

[spare cloud]

Yeah pleaese dont be a second xaethron

[calm grail]

I knew an Affliction warlock who would refuse to move on krosus because of drain soul.

He didn't last long

[shrewd oriole]

BM procs are just visually more rewarding

[spare cloud]

One is already enough for my poor heart

[shrewd oriole]

If that makes sense

@toph

[calm grail]

My wife plays BM, it does look way less stressful

[spare cloud]

Ok

Sry

[shrewd oriole]

You just press everything on cd

@spare cloud I have a stockpile of meme images now

From this chat

I’m at 47 rn

[calm grail]

She doesn't change up her legendaries much because she doesn't really get into a whole min-maxing thing, she's p casual. But she uses the legendary boots and a combination of other things

[lone junco]

I dont really want to be hunter, but I need something better than rogue for RL. hard to see from the front.

[calm grail]

But it looks pretty cool when her abilities come right back up

[lone junco]

def like the 26apm tho

[shrewd oriole]

A lot of hunters

[lone junco]

Rogue gets points for never dying tho

[shrewd oriole]

Use chest and prydaz

For BM

[lost horizon]

My RL swapped to BM

[shrewd oriole]

It’s p much bis

If you can’t use sephuz

[spare cloud]

I heard tanking is fun for raidleading

[lost horizon]

Seemed to help him call shit more clearly

[shrewd oriole]

If you can use sephuz you use that plus chest

[spare cloud]

No it doesnt

[lost horizon]

And he parses pretty damn well too

[drifting cloud]

bm doesnt really have bis legos

[spare cloud]

Just makes him more obnoxious

[shrewd oriole]

Easier to rl when you have no rotation to pay attention to

[lone junco]

yeah. like bleed.

[calm grail]

Become a Healer noobe.

[lone junco]

I was for years

[calm grail]

Do it again.

[lone junco]

but healers only watch incoming and defensive. hard to watch other peoples footwork.

[shrewd oriole]

BM is probsbly the best spec for RL

[lone junco]

raid ui takes a lot of eye time

[shrewd oriole]

Exactly

[lost horizon]

I mean he's got a great 'disappointed dad' voice, BM helps him focus on making us regret our life choices

[calm grail]

Did you kill Argus Noobe?

[lost horizon]

Sin being melee is the only reason it's not great for RL

[spare cloud]

Wait i just misreas the whole sentence

Noobe killed argus yes

[shrewd oriole]

Sin is significantly harder than BM

@calm grail heroic

[lost horizon]

Is it? I haven't played BM

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

I have looked through so many BM logs

[lone junco]

@calm grail yeah, a few weeks ago.

[calm grail]

Yeah I know it was heroic. I didn't know if he started working on Mythic yet.

[shrewd oriole]

It is literally just everything on cooldown PRETTY MUCH

[lone junco]

playing warlock for lols now

[lost horizon]

Other than guardian druid I'd say sin is probably the easiest spec I've played

And ret* nvm def ret

[shrewd oriole]

BM is ever easier

[spare cloud]

I dont agree

[shrewd oriole]

BM is the easiest spec I’ve played

I think frost dk is p easy too

[sand whale]

arcane mage

[lone junco]

rogue is the easiest class ive played. maybe it is the defensives. never dying is a bonus

[lost horizon]

Frost DK was fun when I tried it

[calm grail]

Every other aspect in the game feels harder to me than sin mostly because I don't play them and don't intend to.

Specc*

[lost horizon]

But I never actually bothered to learn to play it, I was just fooling around on a friend's toon

[shrewd oriole]

Warrior rank 1 on garothi is interesting

🤔

[lone junco]

I died a lot on ele back in the day. too much flat footed time, and no cheat death.

bleh

[spare cloud]

Wat

[lost horizon]

I just hit the buttons when they lit up 👌 idk if it'd get harder when you actually try to min max frost

[spare cloud]

Is that

[shrewd oriole]

Everyone afked

[drifting cloud]

everyone stops dps at 20

[shrewd oriole]

In execute

[marble hemlock]

"boss is in execute range now, everyone stop dps so i get #1"

[sand whale]

mucho executelols

[shrewd oriole]

Warrior got to a million stacks

[lost horizon]

Jesus

That's bad man

[shrewd oriole]

P much solo the boss from 20%

LUL

[lost horizon]

What was the fight length?

[drifting cloud]

5:27

[shrewd oriole]

Rank 1 out of any class

[marble hemlock]

so

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[spare cloud]

I like the name of the r1 shaman

[shrewd oriole]

Good shit

[marble hemlock]

"stop dps now so i can get #1 world"

[lone junco]

lol. all that cheese and he barely beat the top enhance

[lost horizon]

5:30 jfc LOL

[drifting cloud]

200k is not barely

[shrewd oriole]

@lone junco ehh is casino spec

[calm grail]

So what you are saying is if you get a legitimate 99, you shouldn't feel that bad when the one hundreds are made of bull shit like this?

[sharp viper]

true

[lost horizon]

'legitimate 99'

🤔

[shrewd oriole]

?

Don’t get the use of quotations there

[lost horizon]

So many people accidentally parse high

[marble hemlock]

is legitimate

[drifting cloud]

if you get more than 10% pb delete your log

[calm grail]

When I say legitimate, I mean you just played your rotation normally and nothing special happened and you got a good parse.

[lost horizon]

Not even PB memeing here

[marble hemlock]

yes

its almost impossible to #1 any fight unless you cheese

[lone junco]

Ive seen a few good sin parses with 3+ dps deaths. Bracer plus good shoulder bombs

[shrewd oriole]

^

[lost horizon]

It's just how rng swings work

[calm grail]

I got a really solid Imonar Mythic rank randomly.

I never looked at the breakdown though, I don't know if I got poison bomb heaven

[shrewd oriole]

What’s really solid

[calm grail]

Or if the potatoes in my group caused it somehow

[marble hemlock]

has nothing to do with rng, and everything to do with people being bored during farm and raid/guildleaders changing strategies to cater to specific player(s) in the raid so they can get a good log

[calm grail]

98?

[shrewd oriole]

Ah p solid

[sharp viper]

imonar is highly dependent on your raid dps as well as rng

[spare cloud]

Pb

[lost horizon]

@marble hemlock sure, but not every boss is cheesable like that

[marble hemlock]

almost all are, to some extent

[sharp viper]

if your potato raid is just fast enough for you to line up vendettas without downtime it's pretty much perfect

[lost horizon]

Sometimes it's purely spec rng swings

[calm grail]

If everything is dependent on our RNG how do we differentiate when we did well ans when we didn't?

[spare cloud]

Im still pissed at that immonar kill

[marble hemlock]

cheesing for logs doesnt require to do stuff like the warrior did, sometimes its just "only those guys go on adds, the others focus boss" or stuff like that

[lost horizon]

I mean how can you cheese garothi for non-execute classes?

[shrewd oriole]

Fast kill

Good rng

1 heal

[marble hemlock]

let them be the only ones cleaving the weapons?

[spare cloud]

Cleave on assault machines

[lost horizon]

Yeah, comes down to individual rng

[shrewd oriole]

That too

[sharp viper]

it also helps if the other melees don't afk with sleep cannister

[spare cloud]

With pb luck

Wipe if no pb

[sharp viper]

15s asleep on pull cause demon hunters and monks don't have the mobility to run out

[marble hemlock]

well

[spare cloud]

Yes

[strange python]

lel procking PB in that random daily dungeon like there's no tomorrow

[marble hemlock]

thats why you shadowstep any given ranged dps when you get canister as a rogue

[spare cloud]

Good we dont have a demon hunter

[strange python]

so the mechanic gotta chill in raids

[prime void]

I got like a rank 8 or 9 on imonar while slept for a very long time

just gotta be a bamf

[shrewd oriole]

Imonar ranks are odd

[marble hemlock]

imonar is mostly about how well your guild handles the bridge

[shrewd oriole]

I have at least 98 on everything but imonar and argus

Yeah

[sharp viper]

shs on a ranged player is pretty stupid in imonar p1

[shrewd oriole]

I think our bridge is just too slow

[marble hemlock]

if you have 30sec bridge phases, overall dps is going to suffer

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz I can’t seem to get a 99

[marble hemlock]

if you do it in 10

[prime void]

how do you cross slow at this point

like

[marble hemlock]

youll parse well

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah :/

[spare cloud]

Tom just cloak and run in

[prime void]

skystep yolo gate

[sharp viper]

did you kill argus by now?

[prime void]

bridge clear

[calm grail]

It's funny because Imonar and Garothi are my only decent ranks.

[prime void]

youd know if I killed argus

[marble hemlock]

groups with vdemonhunters will always be faster than groups without

for example

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

Killed it twice now

[marble hemlock]

cause you dont have to wait for dispells, they just infernal strike over all of them without being stopped

[spare cloud]

I killed it once

Feelsgood

[calm grail]

I'm pretty ♿ so this
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mR3Lcy9FNPYabh7z#fight=7&view=rankings
Made me happy.

[marble hemlock]

protwarrior can just go shoulders and triple leap the entire bridge, give him some externals and youre over there in 10secs

stuff like that makes parsing a lot easier

[prime void]

skystep bop suicide

then guild gates

[sharp viper]

you know that the raid still has to follow on mythic

[prime void]

ez clear

WAIT REALLY?

[marble hemlock]

so?

[prime void]

THE RAID HAS TO FOLLOW

WOAH

[spare cloud]

How does immonar work on mythic

[marble hemlock]

its easier to follow when the bridge is clear instantly

[spare cloud]

Can you explain the fight please

[marble hemlock]

than having to wait for clear

[sharp viper]

what good is a tank on the other side of the bridge with it full of traps

[calm grail]

Let me tell you, your restoration Shaman will always drop his Spirit link totem two seconds too late so when the tank goes across everybody dies

[calm grail]

That's how it works

[shrewd oriole]

Argus multi dotting btw

[spare cloud]

Lul

[marble hemlock]

thats the point vaeira

[spare cloud]

Yeah dont dmg nature add at less than 30% health

[marble hemlock]

protwarrior/vdh can clear traps in a matter of seconds

due to leap/infernal strike

[spare cloud]

Its dmg loss

[sharp viper]

still need to get dispelled

[prime void]

[marble hemlock]

meaning the raid can follow up instantly, instead of having to dispell

[sharp viper]

or are they somehow immune to knockback and the stun

[marble hemlock]

stun traps are only there on the 1st/3rd bridge, and theyre all at the start

or, most of them

meaning youre still in range for dispell

while leaping over traps they are immune to the knockback, yes

they only get hit by the last one

same as the stun

they only get stunned after landing, not during the leap

[calm grail]

One really annoying hurdle we had in my group, was the healers being a little too quick on their dispels ...

[lost horizon]

Leap multiclearing stuns is hot

[calm grail]

For Sleep canister that is

[lost horizon]

Clear 4 traps in 1 leap 👌

[marble hemlock]

^

demonhunter is really broken in that regard

most of the time he doesnt even get the debuffs associated with the trap

[calm grail]

Is Leap still coded so it counts you as going across the ground even if you are in the air?

[lost horizon]

We've got a prot pally tank that offered to sit even on most rekills just cause

[marble hemlock]

our dh usually clear traps on 2nd platform without getting a single dot debuff

[lost horizon]

Vdh too good

[sharp viper]

we only have furries and dead wheelchairs as tanks

[shrewd oriole]

Another one for the meme folder

[spare cloud]

[calm grail]

I mean he's right, nine percent is a little low.

[marble hemlock]

wat

[calm grail]

At 931 if you are properly itemized you could go higher for sure.

🤔

[marble hemlock]

?!?

[prime void]

[marble hemlock]

can someone translate?

[prime void]

no

[calm grail]

You should probably drop all of his Mastery and put it into haste

[prime void]

Not possible

[marble hemlock]

i dont speak that language

[prime void]

He's trolling

But its not funny

[lost horizon]

[calm grail]

I'm just saying, if he's going for haste he could be trying harder at that ilvl

[marble hemlock]

oh

yeah

:Alacrity:

😢

[shrewd oriole]

Sub alacrity

[marble hemlock]

yeah

sub alacrity for more ES procs

🤔

[calm grail]

I wonder if you went all in on haste gear how much damage you would drop.

Try EP and alacrity.

[shrewd oriole]

You can sim it

[calm grail]

I want to put together a troll build just to see if I can still beat any of the other DPS in my group.

Have it be non optimal, but still synergize with itself.

[drifting cloud]

if you had bis legot and 4set proper trinkets

youd lose like 10-15% max

[calm grail]

I feel like boots will be better with a haste build. All that energy means more vendetta.

[shrewd oriole]

Boots bracers

[calm grail]

I wonder if theoretically what relics would be best if you did the potato haste build.

Or if it would even change it all

I believe Master Alchemist will lose a lot of value.

[sharp viper]

if you want a troll build you can always go outlaw

[prime void]

outlaw not bad tho

[calm grail]

🤔

[shrewd oriole]

Why would malch loss value

You proc more prisons

Poisons*

They do less damage but happen more often

[lone junco]

haste is not a thing. it can creep over agi. but not for stacking.

[calm grail]

I assume since you are eliminating most of your mastery you would be better served with something like triple balanced blade as your first priority

[drifting cloud]

haste bis stat in bfa just wait for it

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

If you’re playing haste might as well go ep

[calm grail]

Yeah, you're definitely going to be getting more finishers out.

[shrewd oriole]

How much better tho

Can’t be that muc

[calm grail]

I'm just trying to theorize optimal potato speccs

[shrewd oriole]

You’re getting KB off so often too

[lone junco]

Alac is 20% and you dont drop mastery to do it

and you dont drop crit and lose EP

[calm grail]

Noobe I'm just trying to figure out how to best play a haste oriented specialization for the lulz

[lone junco]

outlaw

[shrewd oriole]

^

[calm grail]

Within the confines of Sin

[lone junco]

btw. I tried to do a hemo exang spec yesterday

[shrewd oriole]

[lone junco]

was really good at the open when i got bota back to back to back.

but it was the limpest dry rotation ever.

[shrewd oriole]

Btw noobe

I cut down the jewfro

[calm grail]

Why?

[shrewd oriole]

Was getting too big

[calm grail]

That shit was made you Alpha

It's like a Lions mane of Manliness

[manic vigil]

3bb

[sharp viper]

the fro is getting in the way of his ear rings

[manic vigil]

Sounds good

[calm grail]

Damn, you got some pretty earrings

Wait is that legit?

Eyebrows check out.

[sharp viper]

how would it not be legit?

he was the one posting that awhile ago

[calm grail]

Oh....

Well if Tom ever berates you, just keep that image in mind.

Kind of looks like a sweet Spanish Mom who had her hysterectomy.

[lone junco]

he's not plump enough for that

[shrewd oriole]

What’s wrong with the pictures

It’s beautiful

Some chick left her earrings at my place

[calm grail]

Yeah for sure.

[shrewd oriole]

If anything

It’s a trophy

Proof of a successful hunt

[calm grail]

You told me one time that your sister was stacked, do you got pictures?

[shrewd oriole]

No

[calm grail]

Damn Tom.

[shrewd oriole]

[calm grail]

😟

[manic vigil]

Tom has a sister

[shrewd oriole]

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