but yeah, thats a booger
#assassination
lone junco
prime void
Tisumi
lone junco
but Dont vvanish rupture garrote exang.
prime void
Your KG log makes me happy.
lone junco
that 1sec is a loss
spare cloud
Ahh the good old 982 rogue
who plays the burst wrong
in a world 70 guild
I guess he just knows better
maybe the apl is wrong
scarlet hawk
I feel like I'm having a much tougher time keeping up rupture when I decide to only do it on 4cps.
I'm losing rupture while TB is up
or kb or w/e
quite a bit.
dire spoke
damn miffig raiders, don't even know how specs work
manic vigil
zempai 
lone junco
nailed it
dire spoke
sub gloves 
prime void
Im congused
dire spoke
😂
manic vigil
I'm congused as well
spare cloud
If you are the only one in your itemlevel bracket you will always get 100% 
I like how about 60% of this chat is german right now
and its 5 am here
dire spoke
leben im griff
lone junco
disregard illvl i forot it wasnt mythic
spare cloud
Idk how to parse on any boss thats not garothi or vari
lone junco
but. i love people with 99 heroic but 25ilvl heroic cause they play like shit with 972
spare cloud
Thats totally me
lone junco
jhonwei and loktark are like 99/100s all the way down.
people shit on ilvl, but its all i got
lurker
plain thistle
yeah, historical % tho, because im not doing heroic antorus on my rogue anymore 😛
plain thistle
😳
manic vigil
😄
lone junco
tyra sent me log after log when he first started iinsig. was cool so see someone do something new
plain thistle
yeah, fuck shoulder
plain thistle
T20 2p all the way baby
plain thistle
18% eonar, fucking afk
lone junco
100 sub 100sin 100 snd
plain thistle
get out of here with that 18% eonar
manic vigil
nice comnbination as it turns out 
lone junco
better game than me
spare cloud
Swagstep is crazy good
dire spoke
gushing wound relic ???
lone junco
eww
plain thistle
dogs stacked problably
my log is 2.9M with dogs not stacked
some guilds even for mythic stacks dogs during the non-special phase
dire spoke
I wish I had gear
spare cloud
I want to play boots bracers
manic vigil
oh wait, no I don't
spare cloud
but I dont have the gear for it
manic vigil
spare cloud
I would roll it all the time because it feels way better to play
manic vigil
boots bracers is awesome for sure
dire spoke
you can be my lower tier friend uni
spare cloud
lul
manic vigil
when you say you don't have the gear for it you just mean that mantle+x sims way better?`
because I have super low crit atm as well
🤷
dire spoke
^
manic vigil
yeah okay that's quite some
scarlet hawk
What would you say is the crit threshold for bleed?
spare cloud
Can't say because it depends on your other gear
dire spoke
I think I got like the max dps output a 970 mantle-bracers can have man
manic vigil
well my stat goals are pretty clear
spare cloud
but aversion doesnt public log
scarlet hawk
Is that with boots + Bracers?
manic vigil
yeah
spare cloud
wtf rank 1 rogue overall as assa
plays horn of valor
on every boss
fucking koreans
manic vigil
dialla discovered editing 
spare cloud
975
dire spoke
I sim 2.23m @spare cloud
scarlet hawk
Why is raidbots simming me with Alacrity and DfA? Wtf.
manic vigil
literally made me LOL irl
spare cloud
quick ice
That is not as low as I expected tbh
dire spoke
Toph the swiss guild has actual teamspeak in kill videos it's so weird for me
manic vigil
because you goofed dialla, duh
scarlet hawk
@quick ice Still about 100k lower
manic vigil
you silly goose
lone junco
we used Ventrilo unil a few months ago
prime void
hov on kinga
manic vigil
what year is this?!
prime void
as sub
scarlet hawk
"talents=1103111"
prime void
omg
spare cloud
lone junco
using discord cause our sub ran out
quick ice
@scarlet hawk I was expecting more like 200-300k lower
lone junco
that Rupture still puts up sot.
so if the poison window is down, then meh
as long as he clips the end
manic vigil
toph doesn't believe in editing
spare cloud
still gets 2 evenoms in
spare cloud
spare cloud
He has 2 versa/mastery items
prime void
I mean the play is completely wrong
lone junco
maybe he is bad. and have big dick ilvl
spare cloud
his crit is about 30%
prime void
Theres no argue the play is wrong
spare cloud
He's about 973
lone junco
i ran a full sim at 3cp env/ 3cp rupture and it wasnt a huge loss. people hammer 4cp all the time.
magic laurel
spare cloud
Yes but he keeps having flawless uptimes
lone junco
i wouldnt do 1cp rutpre
scarlet hawk
Idk. wtf is wrong. The "Icons" on raidbots show Alacrity and DfA. But it's obviously not simming that. Yet the dps is still about 100k lower than what I simmed just y-day. Has the APL changed?
lone junco
if you can get that 99 env 99 ep 95 2p. your dp will be high.
scarlet hawk
Thanks Vigor ring -.-
lone junco
yeah vig ring will fuck you
scarlet hawk
How did none of you point that out when I posted the talent string?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
lone junco
i did
dire spoke
@scarlet hawk you had vigor ring btw
spare cloud
He is mp
lone junco
spare cloud
974 ilvl
lone junco
for a while I hoped anti would help clip 100/100/100,. but i couldnt make it work. drowned in low e mid block between vendettas
scarlet hawk
5cp rupture?
lone junco
prob 3cp +1 from fok
scarlet hawk
Btw. When kb is up and rupture drops. Do you ignore rupture and keep env. up? Or re-rupture and admit you're a pleb.
lone junco
the pleb thing
scarlet hawk
Gotcha.
lone junco
i personally will 3cp rupture there for the refresh
esp if i can re 4cp env quickly
but my crit is high enough i get 3's and 4's almost exclusively
scarlet hawk
Is there a way you can check talents, in details?
lone junco
in what context
scarlet hawk
I want to confirm I didn't run Vigor on a pull.
lone junco
i dont use details. no clue
scarlet hawk
I forget to live-log all of the time -.-
I always log, just forget the live-log aspect...
So I ususally have like a multi-gig combat log file I have to go split every time I need to see a log that someone else didn't manage to livelog -.-
It's... The best.
Anyway. 2.04m dps on a garothi pull with no vigor and 4.5% poison bomb is prolly not completely trash then.
on 4.46m pull
No vigor.
No talent
Should honestly make a weakaura.
That just fills the whole screen if none are selected.
spare cloud
I'm grinding a HoV now
manic vigil
my WA is fucked up without vigor selected. saved my ass a lot 👌
scarlet hawk
haha
manic vigil
scarlet hawk
Gonna do that right now
manic vigil
*where are my cps?!" "oh, right, derp"
hmm, I like that SF and NS are literally equal in my boots bracers no t20 setup. Because I hate SF without t20 (yes, I vanish while still having cooldown on garrote )
dire spoke
sometimes you don't see 5CP and blame legendaries
manic vigil
yeah mine is not on purpose I just cba to fix it
dire spoke
spare cloud
Do sub gloves give 6 cp?
manic vigil
zing
manic vigil
yes the earth is in fact a sphere tisumi
lone junco
your wa didnt have 6cp option?
manic vigil
manic vigil
simming with amanthuls 
lone junco
8 per loktark math. ill take it.
its that bitch ring you have
low crit
i keed
i got mine from a box. so i cant brag
I did spend 3h 30m AFTER timer in that 16 seat to get it tho
lone junco
we did 15 tyr then next week 16 fort
I do know it
annd.. never bring bitch dps with you
lone junco
I had to yell at the enhance to ONLY ATTACK THE DOG WHILE IT IS BREATHING
i had him run out. once it started, run and stab it in the back
lone junco
@gusty kestrel yeah. 100k over sim is pretty good
scarlet hawk
lol
lone junco
I had a 12% during the pk bug
made me so mad
was 100% bota during exang and 12%
would have been 2.2 easy
manic vigil
don't turn my tisumi into a bleedy boi 
lone junco
too late. he beat slack jack numbers
manic vigil
prime void
bleed is unbelievably fun.
lone junco
it is super smooth tbh. and the setup is easy.
manic vigil
duh
lone junco
in LFR with 1 buff
manic vigil
knew that already
manic vigil
💙
manic vigil
one day I will be able to try bleed as well. I don't even know how it works, never even tried properly
lone junco
@prime void when my warlock is ready, wanna scumbag carry me in a 15?
Ill bring seed and do like 4m trash, then 500k boss
scarlet hawk
do you NEED 3x Master Assassin for bleed build?
manic vigil
yeah to muscle the heathen @gusty kestrel
lone junco
need is strong
manic vigil
but we know what's really up!
scarlet hawk
I mean, I'm simming 2.2m on poison build atm.
scarlet hawk
3v?
lone junco
anything else is inconvenience
6/7 mass
you want 7, but 3 means you hold exang for 10 sec
each time
prime void
ill carry oyu on monday for free noobe
10:30 ish pst if you can be on
dont care what ilvl you are
ez carry week.
depression#11913 cant remem if I have you added
lone junco
condolences on the depression
prime void
its life.
lone junco
same
prime void
Been depressed/ somewhat suicidal for months
is what iti s
we move on and keep living
nimble tartan
I'm your friend im here for you 😊
placid egret
Guild just gave a tier piece to our tank DH for transmog
Then he proceeded to say "Wow its my first 985. Crappy that its tier gear"
https://puu.sh/zOlJ1/ac0976e830.png
Little upset
little
lone junco
nice socket
dire spoke
what is going on, with all the love giving rn
placid egret
why do I have to be mad? cause he rolled tier gear for transmog
then complained that he got it
nimble tartan
Hey everyone needs love. It's easy to get lost in the sauce of toxic cause it's fun
spare cloud
😦
manic vigil
time to sleep, nerds. take care guys 
placid egret
night
wild bane
How big losing the 2set on antorus tier on assasination would be for getting a 45 ilvl upragade on a cloak?
scarlet hawk
I just managed to get feared for 20 seconds on heroic dogs.
wild bane
Allright. thanks.
wild bane
Im too retarded to sim stuff
nimble tartan
I don't wear tier anymore
nimble tartan
I have 985 every slot
wild bane
I literally havent been able to figure that shit out for a long time
dire spoke
@wild bane https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/gear
wild bane
Well, thanks
dire spoke
Toph 
scarlet hawk
Vers vs Mastery on Bleed. Which is usually bigger?
dire spoke
mine
gilded lark
sim it
spare cloud
What
dire spoke
look at this shit XD https://youtu.be/Wun_lgMA3o0?t=8m18s
lone junco
@scarlet hawk mastery and vers are pretty close for weights, but i stack crit mastery
dire spoke
dire spoke
if you're on my level
gilded lark
tophs guild is a top guild
dire spoke
having people benched is a top guild
lone junco
there are some crit verse pieces, but in any fok (3t) pretty sure the mastery takes off
scarlet hawk
Ye aight
spare cloud
I had a very important job
spare cloud
Yes
dire spoke
@gusty kestrel I know
dire spoke
that swiss guild legit had 0 rogue the whole tier
dire spoke
thin ingot
guys where can i find the elvui setup and weak aura of the irish dude that says "sex combo points"?
spare cloud
Who is that
dire spoke
prime void
infecious is a shit player
spare cloud
Maybe someone whos been here longer than me knows
turbid harbor
isn't he scottish?
thin ingot
that
prime void
still bad player who spreads misinfo 😃
thin ingot
i liked his weak aura and elvui setup though
spare cloud
I still don't get how people can play with other peoples weakauras/elvui
spare cloud
ayy lmao
prime void
I do like tisumis stuff tho
very nonintrusive
intrustive
nonintrusive
idk what work im looking for
inintrustive?
unintrustive?
WHAT WORD DID I WANT TISUMI
help me with my engliish
thats you tho
not the ui
would impregnate ariana
keep her around
spare cloud
Clean
prime void
yknow hat im saying
spare cloud
CLEAN AF
lone junco
my ui is best and you know it
spare cloud
Its best for you
spare cloud
Maybe you dont even know it
its like with persoloot for everyone
you didnt even know you wanted it
but now you do.
shhhhh.
I reworked my ui today and all I did was make everything smaller
and changed some positions
No
any smaller and I cant see the numbers anymore
I have bad eyesight
lone junco
default unit frame is still plenty good.
spare cloud
Yeah I dont like the look of it though
spare cloud
for pvp I'd probably roll default ui as well
I mean you dont need it
it just looks better
I mean you could track evenom uptimes and sot and all that stuff with buffs over your character frame as well
But who does that
scarlet hawk
What do you guys see as the biggest pros / cons of bleed vs poison? It's clear that poison outperforms bleed on logs. But is this just a reflection of many more players playing poison?
lone junco
max is higher on poison. so you see better max logs
my avg is considerably higher as bleed, and i perform very well as bleed
the real point is, high crit EP builds are the end tier
there are a few, and they are all about the same avg dps
I would recommend anyone play 2p4p exang though. for afew bosses at lest. ST pure
i like it a lot.
scarlet hawk
I played Exsang back in EM. But changed a lot I suppose since then, lel.
lone junco
Doubt you had 3vendetta boots
scarlet hawk
Nope
scarlet hawk
I really want to get back to bleed asap. But missing boots.
scarlet hawk
Yea.
dire spoke
did I hear nice UI? >:D https://snag.gy/picXUt.jpg
scarlet hawk
2/3 so far.
lone junco
unless it is a 42 sec fight
scarlet hawk
hahaha
spare cloud
That awkward moment when other people need to post the emote for you
because you dont have nitro
gilded lark
yeah
dire spoke
that poggers moment when discord writes you an e-mail that you're in the hypesquad and get a profile badge
:D
gilded lark
fucks a hypesquad
grim canopy
so im doing M+ this monk is doing 3x the aoe but around same st, why should this gruop not just take 2 monks? instead o fme
and a ae stun
spare cloud
there is no reason
grim canopy
aoe
spare cloud
you are a right
grim canopy
sigh cuck spec
spare cloud
go reroll monk pls
grim canopy
so is there litearlly no reason other than rp?
spare cloud
I mean you have tricks
massstealth
Also you shouldnt be that far behind monk if you play sub and dont play like a pleb 🤷
grim canopy
we needed to use my mass stealth once, but someone messed it up and ran through a mob
Never playing sub, feels like aids
spare cloud
your own fault then 🤷
spare cloud
Yeah and then you end up being a shadowpriest
grim canopy
lol
well they being fixed
no but im not gonna go farm tos items
maybe in BFA when set bonuses,relics,leggos are gone
easily change specs
lone junco
youcan change easier with tier
grim canopy
i dont got t20
grim canopy
whats best aoe opeenr for sin
spare cloud
I mean I played a few higher keys as sin today
grim canopy
with a monk in your gruop who is ass raping u
spare cloud
and I was totally fine
grim canopy
by pressing 1 button and going afk
turbid harbor
hey man
lone junco
then roll a monk man
spare cloud
almost 3 M overall in EoA 23 with shit pb luck on crab pulls
turbid harbor
monks have to press a lot of buttons
grim canopy
what is your aoe opener for sin?
lone junco
Selitahan is playing sin for everything but maw
spare cloud
Situational
turbid harbor
mine is open talents --> respec sub
grim canopy
who is siletehan
turbid harbor
sub is insane for maw
grim canopy
i have 0 tos items
turbid harbor
it's just shit for nl
spare cloud
well rogue in general is not your best choice for nl
even as assa you get fucked by kiting
turbid harbor
ya im playing warlock for nl
but sub in maw is insane
had 1:15 pulls killing first boss
better group than mine has had 1:05
spare cloud
Yeah well its basically everything sub wants
many mobs + a target you can focus for days
You can get perfect everything
spare cloud
Like 3 cp dot
into 30 stacks ss+ sd + mg into evis
another ss into dfa
then just spam shit
and you do like 25 mil dps
if not more
spare cloud
How do you play opener
turbid harbor
just standard
spare cloud
So basically waht i said
lone junco
if you dont have 2p2p or glaives. no sub for you
turbid harbor
ya
spare cloud
Yah well I never done a coordinated high MoS as sub
grim canopy
lol fuckin game
spare cloud
Glaives is a real burn
lone junco
but ive peaked 20M as sub. its fun
grim canopy
guess ill stay wimp spec
lone junco
4p21 sin is fine unless you are racing
spare cloud
tbh sin can do some insane times
But you have to fish for luck
and thats never fun
turbid harbor
sin has good prio target dmg as well
spare cloud
I had that today in the Eye key
lone junco
if you drop your shoulder bombs on the run, just /wrist
spare cloud
like when we were in cave the murlocs were still running at us
waiting for like 5 seconds
then spamming envenom in hope of pb proccs
but they just wont come
at least I finished endboss with 3M dps
which was nice
spare cloud
I tend to save my pb's for the bosses.
lone junco
so yeah, i feel like its only worth spamming fok and overcapping cp once you get to 8+ targets its hard to sustain energy on packs that are smaller than that anyway, so youll have to keep refreshing rupture a few times to keep going basically on 1-4 tagets i just rupture them all, 5-8 i alternate rupture/envenom, 9+ i generally tend to overcap CP especially once mobs drop sub 30%
the idea of not even env. cause Pk does more work is funny
spare cloud
tbh even if its on 5-8 I will fok/envenom spam during mantle
and only t hen start rupturing
spare cloud
also that advice is only really applicable for really high keys
I feel
Because on low keys if you really rupture 4 targets then the first one is already dead and the value is like 8 seconds of rupture
for 5 cp
lone junco
if you can get 8 mobs. 1 fok will hit harder than an extra env
spare cloud
which is just not worth
ocean cargo
Is it still better to mantle wrists or is wrist boots better?
spare cloud
sim
lone junco
depends
spare cloud
depends on your gear
lone junco
both are good.
stark nacelle
Noobe question, is pure 4pc t21 enough for exsang or do you need decent t20 2pc for it? I have full 960 of t21 but only have 930 gloves, 915 shoulders or 925 pants from t20 and it just ends up simming like shit
ocean cargo
Well ive got perfect stats in the sense only legos give haste...about 185% mastery
nimble tartan
U want t20 2p for exsang
dire spoke
well this is not sub where you have no lego choice
lone junco
@stark nacelle my 2p20 is about 45 ilvls down from perfect 960 offpices
and is better
spare cloud
You dont need the t20 its just very convenient
stark nacelle
Ah
Because I have 3x master relics too, was considering trying it for better average damage
spare cloud
And in most cases without the t20 your exsang will sim less than poison
lone junco
it is NOT fun with low crit
stark nacelle
And no toph my exsang sims like 80k lower
lone junco
crit?
ocean cargo
What is a good avg to sim these days...I wna compare where I am to others
spare cloud
If your exsang sims 80k lower you will have lower averages than poison even with exsang
lone junco
@ocean cargo what ilvl
ocean cargo
Im 959
lone junco
@ocean cargo my bleed is 2.08 a poison at 959 is prob like 1.90
ocean cargo
I sim 1.95 more or less
lone junco
then fine
ocean cargo
So thats on par then
lone junco
yea
ocean cargo
Thx
spare cloud
noobe is your gear optimized for the ilvl you got?
ocean cargo
Ive got near perfect gear.. all I can do is get higher I lvl if same gear
lone junco
957 is
spare cloud
like can you realistically get upgrades of the same itemlevel
spare cloud
On 980+ exsang outperforms poison with optimized gear
lone junco
@spare cloud https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/thrall/nooberog
id just take this stame stuff with higher illv
spare cloud
are you running tos hc weekly?
lone junco
have a few 945 -960 necks in my bag without socket.
spare cloud
or lazy
wild bane
Would switching shadow-singed fang to orb of command be impactful?
lone junco
Dogs has an Agi proc that lines up with bota nicely
prime void
Why does my FoK only give me 1 co sometimes?!?!
lone junco
magic
prime void
Shits weird man
lone junco
low crit pleb
dusky tiger
hi everyone, i just back in wow, where can i found a theory craft about NetherLight Crucible
dire spoke
because it's not shurikenS
lone junco
mode
spare cloud
go home mizu you're drunk
dire spoke
@dusky tiger herodamage.com
spare cloud
I'm eating nuts and raisins that my dad bought for himself right now
and I'm leaving all the raisins for him because i dont like them
dire spoke
who likes raisins 
it's like pineapple pizza
stark nacelle
This is what I meant btw:
Poison
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2uop3PQKA17Cks8Z478tPu
Bleed
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rfvqhcE3G16UhUR1Ayu7UZ
dusky tiger
@dire spoke Thx dude
stark nacelle
I dunno if i'm just lacking crit or pure ilvl for bleed but it turns out shit
spare cloud
yeah that gear doesnt look too good for exsang
tough lantern
shadowmeld work in raid content?
lone junco
open reef
For me t20 exagn sims highest, funny thingy That alac build sims only 30k lower
lone junco
i have 75 or so mut crit
grim canopy
aww many i got like 4x acid bombs and this aoe hunter got so mad
lone junco
@open reef yeah. alac works well with the high crit. and you can take a nap at the same time
open reef
Got 50 crit with eoc
spare cloud
acid bombs
spare cloud
Alac is not bad
open reef
My EP uptime is +96
lone junco
is another fun variant.
stark nacelle
Looks like I need to go farm DHT/Arcway then for a decent crit ring to give exsang a try
spare cloud
insig/bracers work as well
grim canopy
Poison is not same as acid, says acid in desciprtion
spare cloud
tb insig is just as fun
open reef
Only problem i have with insignia is fok
lone junco
Ep alac, and ep insig. are very flat pressure, but really nice. I like exang mini peaks.
spare cloud
because of 50%+ crit = like 75% mutilate crit
lone junco
you mut on 2 anyway
spare cloud
You never have any cp problems
open reef
As fok dont proc insignia
spare cloud
Yeah well
open reef
Sadly
open reef
With insignia use mutilate on 1-2 targets +3 = fok?
open reef
Like high Command mythic
open reef
Hmm
spare cloud
does the cone from insignia spread poison?
lone junco
no but ep buffs it
open reef
Insignia should be badass on mythic varimatias
lone junco
tbh, i dont know about poisons. sry
turbid harbor
it doesn't spread poisons
open reef
And i think havent sim yet with alac dogz trinket is Little better then eoc
civic palm
The cone is shadow damage based on other damage, which isn't a function attached to poison application.
grim canopy
so do any of u only play sin?
open reef
Its Assa chat
grim canopy
like i only like sin, wondering if i can get by
spare cloud
You can get by with only sin easily
grim canopy
but ill just be seen as a black sheep right
spare cloud
You'll be a black sheep in m+
for the average dude that wants to play his +15
and only sees
oh top guy plays sub why dont you play sub
you must suck
open reef
Nah sub Boys pray for our bad Pb
fringe ginkgo
what color is this to you guys?
https://i.imgur.com/I38qisK.jpg?1
wise frigate
Yellow.
fervent beacon
I don't know if its the moonrock fucking me up, but its blue
zealous dew
another great F1 season started
with Mercedes way ahead of competitors, gonna be fun
fringe ginkgo
Yeah, it's actually purple in game but for some reason Nvidia Ansel turns it blue when you take a screenshot.
I wasn't sure if I was colorblind, lol.
civic palm
looks green
summer socket
are the best 2 legos for everything shoulders / bracers?
civic palm
No.
summer socket
what fights wouldnt you wear those?
summer socket
ok ty
slim estuary
What simulation settings should i use for eonar
sharp viper
helterskelter but that may vary what you are being assigned to, i am on pure single target duty on eonar so no aoe padding
north basin
why sin feels so clunky in m+ 15+ . always starving energey. and cant do damage exepct initial opening with shoulders,,,
1.3kk-1.5kk average at best. when others do 2k+. should go sub in m+?
968 gear ..
placid mirage
I am no pro player by any standards, but it feels like if you dont have enough haste to get the target/targets properly doted you dont generate enough. In 15 I felt like targets were dying too fast for my gear to properly stack on them. Since 4 piece is nice but again you need to stack up. Ofc mastery gives dmg so haste falls behind. In any case with 968 maybe its something else. Just food for though
*tought
steep obsidian
you dont want haste ever
it beats agi in some gearsets but its never actually good
if you feel starved crit will help you more
north basin
i play same talents and gear as for mythic bosses in antorus, maybe i miss something for m+. any good guides for m+?
placid mirage
hows outlaw btw?
steep obsidian
you can do fine as sin though especially in high keys
there really isnt much to it though Rehystana keep some ruptures up fok as builder and then envenom
north basin
but u dont need to change gear and talents for m+? ye?
steep obsidian
i dont but ive seen some dudes swapping in the fok cloak for big pulls
north basin
ye i do it. rupture big targets and fok + anvenom and praying for posion bomb, but i cant deliver,
steep obsidian
i change legos sometimes for bosses
like last boss on hov i use the belt
and dont use bracers on helya because they do nothing on either boss
just common sense things mainly
broken kelp
I use bracers and shoulders without swapping. 2k+ rating
Its just putting ruptures on mobs thatll survive the longest and garrotes when possible
I really only have a problem with energy during explosive
steep obsidian
i dont rupture out of stealth with the shoulder buff normally just spam fok and envenom
seems to work ok
garrotte and stack ruptures i mean
broken kelp
Its a lot of energy to use mutilate on an explosive orb
broken kelp
Never rely on your pugs 😂
steep obsidian
i find that auto attack and poison while fokking is enough
well thats your problem
dont pug
broken kelp
Like 2k with 2 dungeons missing time and 0 seat completions
Im not qualifying for MDI or anything
north basin
too low . )
broken kelp
Hows that to low? For what?
north basin
wanted to hear assa rogues who do 20+ and still play assa
maybe some tricks
coz iam 1800 in assa and i barely play m+
broken kelp
Couldnt tell you 20+ but you asked cause youre struggling for 15s and keeping up
north basin
but when i started to play i found myself starving energy
and not able to deliver numbers
steep obsidian
im not sure how you are energy starved with 3 rupture up and fokking
especially with decent crit and 4p
broken kelp
Proper CD management and make sure youre rupturing proper targets with a decent amount of combo points
north basin
well 3 ruptures at same moment happens on rare occasions
maybe 15 just too low for assa,,
and no one takes rogue on higher coz no good m+ score xD
damned circle
broken kelp
?
I literally just told you i run higher than 15s
3 ruptures in dungeons shouldn't be a rare occasion
north basin
in which key?
north basin
coz did kara upper 16 and was so low dps overall .
steep obsidian
upper is not a bad dungeon for sin
not that much trash
but if you comparing yourself to a good monk or sub rogue you will alays lose outside a single target situation
assuming equal gear and skill
unless you get insane rng
north basin
need to run more m+ today, and see where is the trouble
maybe was just bad rng
lost to boomie and dh
in comparable gear
shrewd oriole
Morning
warm geode
@lone junco much better spamm 4 cp env outside exsg rupture
shrewd oriole
Dead channel
frozen elm
where can i find stat priorities for assa bleed rogue?
shrewd oriole
frozen elm
ty
gaunt moat
@gaunt moat
midnight latch
nice selftag dude
crisp yacht
hey
midnight latch
hey
steep obsidian
there is a guide in the pins that covers most things
crisp yacht
i know
steep obsidian
if you are asking specific questison about whether a relic is an upgrade over what you have the answer is gonna be to sim it
crisp yacht
u can't tell me ?
steep obsidian
i can guess?
crisp yacht
don't know xd
i tell you and then u can say
my question is
got blood relic 985
but is not bis the proc
so
i got a blood relic 950
shrewd oriole
Sim it
crisp yacht
with master assassination
shrewd oriole
shrewd oriole
it's very simple
you in put your character, either from armory or from the simulationcraft addon (/simc in game)
crisp yacht
don't have that addon
shrewd oriole
you can do it without the addon
crisp yacht
ok
crisp yacht
true
warm geode
if the 950 is not BiS ( all 3 inputs ) the 985 will be better if have 2ich good traits
shrewd oriole
for sure
warm geode
but the answer is : sim
warm geode
and other thing is, what game u r playing, if is raiding can be one thing if is m+ other and what build u r playing influence to
crisp yacht
nah
better relic 985
the 950 is bis for master assassination
but 985 got on 2nd choise is shock light
its not too much high the dps
but its more
so thanks mates
^^
warm geode
i prefer the bis traits over ilvl, even if is "more" dps on simc
warm geode
versatility(not the stat), ilvl could be more for ST but not for m+ as example, MoS is retarded for m+
and Malch to
mossy flicker
Hello guys, I'd like to know if we change our talents for MM+ ? (poison build)
shrewd oriole
no
shrewd oriole
prey is insane
I'd pick prey nearly everytime p much
apart from stuff like
upper
mossy flicker
I wanted to know if we could take the talent next to toxic blade
idk the name in english 😄
warm geode
u need a good group so u dont lose stack and the tb damage on demand is way better
shrewd oriole
if you're able to keep up the stacks it's p decent
mossy flicker
so it's good if we keep fighting
warm geode
is ok
u need to keep in mind the energy ( hast from alacrity ) is not a problem on m+
the tier+shoulder is sick
every pack u can use the 100% to spam envenon at start, will no be at 0 energy doing dat,them u usoe some bleed to generate energy
mossy flicker
I'm just back on wow so I only have p2
warm geode
is not needed alacrity
mossy flicker
but I have wrists/shoulders/boots for ages
boots still great?
or only single target ?
warm geode
boots = st, bracer is the best leggo ( fits all situations ) and for m+ shoulder is bae
shrewd oriole
you use them to get your vendetta up before a boss if you need to but thats about it
mossy flicker
oh just to reset cd ok
and last question
do I have to keep my cds after opener to burst in st ?
or I use kingsbane/toxic blade on cd ?
warm geode
general answer is just use all things on cd, just pool some energy before tb
and if shoulders vanish with vendetta at least or vanish+vendetta+tb
mossy flicker
ok I see^^
because I played sub for a while so I was always saving kingsbane for vendetta
warm geode
not worth
prime plover
is there a way to guarantee more than 1 combo point with fan of knives? Feels bad that it's not like shuriken storm 😦
manic vigil
prime plover
monkaS?
shrewd oriole
Get 100% crit
prime plover
rip...
shrewd oriole
Guaranteed more than 1 combo point
prime plover
feels bad man
prime plover
what mantle 😦
manic vigil
stark reef
Hello guys, any good way to Remember the rotation or priorities?
stark reef
Ty, im just switching from Sub to Assa
manic vigil
Sin is rather easy, you'll get the hang of it quickly
prime plover
the energy regen is totally different
stark reef
its just mantaining debuff and etc no?