Ok Host was actually neat
#assassination
lone junco
prime void
Very peaky
lone junco
steep obsidian
eww cds on the gcd feels horrible 😐
civic palm
Yeah =\
steep obsidian
although cloak doesnt seem to be on it right now
lone junco
@supple hearth do you have a spriest named gigglefart?
civic palm
Blizzard Employee 1: I found out a way to make people feel like they have more buttons!
lone junco
nah, they want to flatten Good vs Mediocre
civic palm
Blizzard Employee 2: Don't let them press the buttons they already have, when they would like to.
steep obsidian
crimson vial isnt either
evasion is
vanish isnt maybe they actually thought it through
drifting crypt
vendetta?
vapid moth
They used such a bs reason for having the cds on gcd. Basically felt like they were gonna make everything worse just for the sake of making pvp more even
safe matrix
Man I wanted to get a good vari log for you bitches to look over
I had a stroke last night
And had a horrible fight
._.
vapid moth
Are you serious?
vapid moth
I meant about the stroke. But it seems not
drifting crypt
dont think he could write on discord if he had a stroke
safe matrix
Nah, I just say that I stroked out if I just go full
Bad word
Idiot?
I hope I don't get banned
monkaS
steep obsidian
pls ban
vapid moth
The gcd thing has already been implemented or its in the alpha?
vapid moth
Alright
lone junco
it is alpha talk even. they are "seeking feedback"
civic palm
vapid moth
We wanted a taunt. And instead we got more Gcd
drifting crypt
vendetta on gcd? 🤢
drifting crypt
capping energy is fun 🤔
slim estuary
Did i get lucky to get my hidden appearance in 5 rares
drifting crypt
i think thats average now, considering you get blp
vapid moth
I got mine in 2. Didn't even know what it was
remote oak
RIP swifty macros
lone junco
good
remote oak
😦
lone junco
I dont mind trinket use, but 2 or 3 actions in one macro is pretty dumb.
grim wolf
hey, for assn rotation do we just focus on keeping our envenom buff up and dont really worry about the surge debuff unless during kingsbane window?
lone junco
pretty much.
vapid moth
Yeah
lone junco
if you finish at 4/5 your sot will be fine.
drifting crypt
i wouldnt mind the change, as long as vendetta stays off gcd
vestal storm
How important is it to save venomous blade for kingsbane?
vestal wren
i pinned the videos from gcd in #off-topic
vapid moth
That won't happen. It's part of their "instant burst" issur
lone junco
whatever happens with gcd and buffs or talents, there will be number balance, and some classes will be good. some will be bad. bads get balanced, or you reroll.
vapid moth
You mean toxic blade? @vestal storm . If yes then you should be using them all on CD ideally.
vestal storm
Yes. Toxic blade. So I should use it on CD as opposed to lining it up with kingsbane?
vapid moth
Yup. They will automatically line up at some points. Every third TB I think
vestal storm
Thank you.
grim wolf
so for Toxic blade, since we're using it on CD do we pool energy then toxic blade into envenom spam to get as many finishers as we can in the TB window?
prime void
Can also hold tb if youre holding for less than 5 seconds to match the last 9 seconds
Yeah you want 3 env in your TB window
grim wolf
hmmmm ok
prime void
2 is good
restive inlet
Am I reading it wrong, or will rupture do more damage when applied with more combopoints again on the alpha?
prime void
3 ideally
vapid moth
It depends more on your crit than your energy level
Easier to get 3 in when you envenom after every mutilate
prime void
Hence you should have 2. 3 with high crit
grim wolf
i'm sitting at like 35% crit atm
prime void
Pooling= more resource to mut. Same concept
vapid moth
Damn. Everyone at 30+ crit. I’m slacking
civic palm
Oh God Blizz... round the numbers...
ahhh
This is so so so so much easier to read > _>"
Anyway, they scale the same on Live and on Alpha.
prime void
50 crit<-------
drifting crypt
25% crit :c
open reef
42 + eoc =50
vapid moth
24 here exo
drifting crypt
but 216% mastery
civic palm
27.8% more per CP.
drifting crypt
and ssf
vapid moth
I got up to 32 crit at some points. Dunno why
drifting crypt
ye, i had almost 40% crit when i still had lower iLvl and eoc
imo higher crit is just so much better gameplay wise
civic palm
Yeah pretty much required without Mantle.
vapid moth
Without mantle I still do vanish envenom. I like the risk
civic palm
GAMBLING
vapid moth
Will it crit? Will I have to force the raid to wipe? We’ll find out
vapid moth
Why couldn’t they call it siren lmao
civic palm
First thing I typed, fuck me I suppose.
midnight latch
🚓
civic palm
Not the same, weird white Naya.
prime void
Hi nata
midnight latch
nata
vapid moth
That’s the gambling aspect to it 😏
vestal wren
5 is rly high
drifting crypt
higher chance, lower dmg
civic palm
VERY
vapid moth
PB every envenom
civic palm
Would end up feeling like PB every other envenom/rupture > _> fun but if the numbers are too low... blargh.
midnight latch
nata is spanish for cream :thonk:
civic palm
:thon indeeeeed
midnight latch
ok
civic palm
👌
midnight latch
and after?
civic palm
Prison.
civic palm
that or 🔨 to the knees.
lone junco
@prime void is your argus still insig boot?
midnight latch
not an ▶ to the knees?
civic palm
🎳 to the knees
Those ghastly pale white thing are the analogs for your knees.
Your ghastly pale knees.
lone junco
does DH tank get an aoe nova stun or just the dps
polar light
just the dps
lone junco
thinking about the mass trash aoe, and i bet dragons breath is really awesome for the stun
lol guide
shrewd oriole
Sup
lone junco
``Stat Priority
SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF SIM YOURSELF``
nice work fire mages
shrewd oriole
Nice
lone junco
ive got the Dragon hat. if all goes well ill get something useful this weekend.
shrewd oriole
Wish our guide had that
strange python
dragon hat is dope
shrewd oriole
lone junco
my DH just mongo stabs at 800k st. mage is shitter at like 500k.
shrewd oriole
Dragon hat in dht, have fun noobe
strange python
update it yourself
lone junco
but ill run through some M1-3
shrewd oriole
800k isn’t shabby at all, dh is nutty dps tho
shrewd oriole
@strange python I’ve thought about doing my own with a few other people but it’s a lot of work for no remuneration
lone junco
I played him for a few days. thought about swapping in ToV
lost horizon
Yooo my fire mage alt became my favourite alt so quick
lone junco
really
shrewd oriole
Noobe
lone junco
you like?
lone junco
thats fine
lost horizon
Boosted it with my 110 from bfa
shrewd oriole
Or cos
lone junco
25yrd dragon right
shrewd oriole
You skip so much shit in dht and cos
lone junco
I need the stun
shrewd oriole
So easy to pull
lone junco
tbh, need is the wrong word
but I want a very easy mass trash for fort weeks.
Tyr i enjoy sin.
lost horizon
At one point I had hat+sheath of asara+PPD for trinkets
I was accidentally pulling so much extra shit
From trinkets, dragons breath and ignite
Good times
lone junco
we have Ret/Arcane. they both peak at like high cleave
push taht ret to DH. me to lock or fire.
strange python
yo anybody else feels like shoulders / bracers "feels" more powerful than bracers boots ?
lone junco
meme beam is pretty fun with 4p21 i imagine
strange python
theyre super close for me but feelscraft begs to differ
lone junco
@strange python ofc it feeels. if you bomb during the open.
strange python
lost horizon
Didn't they nerf PB procs too?
shrewd oriole
lone junco
I did the math based on early numbers, and CT tick rate should be higher dmg than a rupture.
shrewd oriole
Back to 4% per
lone junco
so its prob due for a nerf, and template push
lone junco
ive enjoyed this dps business
lost horizon
Haste scales bleeds too doesn't it?
shrewd oriole
Biggest reason I made a hubter
lone junco
maybe it is my turn for a ranged spot
lost horizon
In BFA*
shrewd oriole
@lost horizon so far yeh
lost horizon
Could be the reason for CT nerf
strange python
is bleed worth even giving a shot as of rn, it "only" sims 30k lower than my poison build and/or is bleed stronger in high ish m+?
lone junco
bleed is weaker in M+
only play upper.
if bleed avg is higher, then play it in raid.
if it is a loss, then dont bother
lost horizon
Unless you're just having fun 👌
lost horizon
Try simming with more Crit stuff too cause stat weights swing pretty heavily
lone junco
just make sure to stack Crit mastery, not Crit Vers.
strange python
with swapped gear/gems im having 2,370 mil dps as bleed simmed and 2,403 mil as poison thingi
strange python
im currently full" poison" but simmed with swapping enchants / gems to crit
lone junco
2.408 is on par with loktark
strange python
i mean should sim that high with 978 equipped..
lone junco
sure
strange python
just wondering if any fights exists where bleed plays out better than poison, getting a bit bored of pb rng only 😄
lone junco
not sure why people say equipped tho. my bank is full of shit. doesnt help my dps.
yeah i love bleed.
Timings are great for some fights, and never worse than Shoulders
except eonar
but fuck that
strange python
eonar sucks dick anyways
lost horizon
Well
lone junco
the 45sec peaks work well around mechanics.
lost horizon
Shoulders are pretty fucking great on kin too
lone junco
and ep is a buff.
strange python
only thing about swapping shit would be that im only 6/7 vendetta relics
lone junco
slackjack got on the board as bleed,
strange python
and 7/7 MAlch rn
lone junco
you get like 9 vendettas instead of 4
3vendetta bb/malch blend is fine
6/7 will be rough.
strange python
yeah bc exang doesnt match up well enough then right?
strange python
oh yeah mb
obv since i kinda know how much pantheons we have in raid i have that included lol mb
lone junco
this exang varith is above my simc avg by about 30-50k
but the fast peaks mean, you get another in the tail
that last one wasnt a vanish, just a 2nd in bracer
👌
lost horizon
Raidbots '# of pantheon trinkets' just slots in aman'thul's though
lone junco
recommendations have been for 8
strange python
oh that sucks then, ill just sim without then
lost horizon
Did you do the custom simC line for the actual trinkets in your raid?
Yeah I sim w/0
Even if you do the line with the exact trinkets, it's haste reliant too so
civic palm
Actual trinkets don't matter when proccing your trinket.
strange python
no i was stupid and thought it used a decentish mix of the trinkets
lost horizon
You'd have to ideally put in their haste values
lost horizon
Still a hefty sim
lone junco
you can use trinkets, just compare the simc avg with your raid
strange python
i mean i got 970 fangs equipped rn
and got 960 eoc in bag
that i know sims a bit higher
upper had the shadow vendetta relic right?
shrewd oriole
I was scared you Simmed higher than me
But you were simming with pantheons
So my masculinity stays intact
strange python
how high do you sim without panths?
shrewd oriole
Rip
civic palm
Fukt
amber sleet
I sim 2.40 without panths
shrewd oriole
My eoc is only 945
civic palm
1min fight heavy movement no items!!
lone junco
2.40 is big 🍆
shrewd oriole
I also only have 1MA
And two bbs
Which sims a lot worse
But in reality performs as well if not better
lone junco
what matters is your Varith tunnel deeps.
shrewd oriole
Touché
shrewd oriole
You’ve got 4 ilvls on me
strange python
than that 😄
lone junco
960 eoc oy
strange python
only spammed like 10 upper keys a day for 2 1/2 weeks straight to get that traded from a holy pal
i only got those shoulders bc nobody wanted them 😦
lone junco
Those shoulders are great
shrewd oriole
Classic
lone junco
Ep/Tb
shrewd oriole
I meant no one besides rogues
lone junco
@strange python that sullied ring is argus right?
shrewd oriole
The good part about a lot of classes wearing 2p4p or leggos
strange python
yeah its argus ring
shrewd oriole
Is that off pieces are available as fuck
strange python
@lone junco argus ring indeed
shrewd oriole
And there’s plenty of off pieces with crit mastery
lone junco
as soon as my Insig Boot 0p4p is >> ill be Ep/Tb
shrewd oriole
Aggra pants, coven gloves, ahc Head, garothi shoulder
strange python
yeah since im usually a semi carry in my guild an rl they keep pumping random gear into me and i got kinga gloves 1. kill and got 965 + gem
and were not that good to see aggra that early
shrewd oriole
Nah it’s crit mastery
strange python
so i just went with what i have rn 😦
civic palm
Clearly crit/mas
shrewd oriole
Sorry
amber sleet
¨
strange python
lemme swap gear and add a bit bc of gems change brb
shrewd oriole
@gusty kestrel you got spotify?
Idk I’d bleed is really worth playing without 2p4p tbh
Slagg says it isn’t but I’m not as well versed in bleed to say it confidently
@gusty kestrel listen in to the song I’m listening to rn
strange python
only 34% + 2 gems i could swap to crit + 2 ring enchants
strange python
i mean herodamage doesnt hold 4p t21 with bracers boots thaat much lower than 4p2p combo
shrewd oriole
Ah fuck rip
civic palm
More like... Crapstival...
I've been to four of them?
Things have gotten bad =\
Uninspired sets.
strange python
i mean i could spam only upper again since i need a better eoc + upper shadow relic is vendetta and then just yolo bleed LUL
shouldnt 3rd ma relic be more important first?
lone junco
You can play 0p4p. It's worth a lot of ilvl. But the rotation isn't impossible.
The boots and 3v are imp tho.
Can make it work with 2v.
vapid moth
Hmmm
shrewd oriole
Your off pieces are also both 980
strange python
ye thats why
shrewd oriole
That probably reduces the value of 2p
lone junco
Mine are 960. Tier 915
shrewd oriole
And tier sims higher? Nuts
strange python
2x 980 >>> 960
lone junco
Crit mastery socket shoulder.
I mean slackjack has 960 t20 gloves.
I don't know what you have.
I'm not out farming t20 tho.
strange python
what t20 slots do u use?
vapid moth
Shoulder glove
vapid moth
Huh
strange python
hands
vapid moth
Would you guys use t19 2 set of you have nice TF?
manic vigil
slim estuary
Whats the max TF of t19, doesnt seem like it would be worth it
vapid moth
Oh. Nice
slim estuary
do all items get their cap increased?
shrewd oriole
If you get 985 t19 tier tho
vapid moth
From m+ and raids
shrewd oriole
It’s like winning the lottery
Nah, world content too
Vendors like argonite
Etc
vapid moth
Noobe and his bleed build ass would love it
fervent beacon
The tiers got nerfed so not sure if it's worth it or not.
slim estuary
try sim it
vapid moth
Huh
I always thought yall were joking when you said this channel had voice. Seems I never scrolled down completely
strange python
k ill just grind 20-30 upper keys this weekend and hope for a good shadow relic or eoc
slim estuary
I hear that! ^ Im using a 940 shadow relic
sacred sand
slim estuary
I'm even farming vault for the relic
strange python
i currently got a 980 shadow relic from antorus with strangler and malch in t3
LUL
so i hope its a decentish one but i guess 3rd ma will just be a upgrade in 940 straight away
slim estuary
I had a 960 shadow relic with the shittest traits, no alch or sin trait 😢 simmed 2% lower
strange python
OMG XD i have a 970 upper shadow relic in item restoration
i can get
ill sim myself with 3/3 ma after my key
lone junco
Ran a series of sims of 19/20/21. At same ilvl 19 is trash.
024 was best combo for the bracer boot poison.
402 and 420 are garbage.
Like -12%
echo estuary
tisumi is a pvper in disguise
manic vigil
don't think he's hiding it
echo estuary
but then he took an arrow to the knee
echo estuary
boom
shrewd oriole
@gusty kestrel we should do some keys on your DH
Cuz tank
And I wanna play my rogue
tacit bay
I have to ask the question now when I sim a vendetta relic is it going to take into account the big bonus of cds lining up better?
shrewd oriole
8 is a bit too much
Don’t you think
LUl
Fuck man
My brain is dying
Dogs is a hard boss
supple hearth
not just getting 985 bis TF ever week in ur m+ cache....smh
strange python
well i have 2 that are 970+ and the others are at least 950 for key carries
mainly lucky heroic tf's and m15 gear
except my rogue
strange python
oh jeez, yeah no i basically only have them in hopes i get good keys on them lamo
damn son
supple hearth
My rogue gets auto de junk every week and my monk gets sick gear
echo estuary
back in the day i could maintain one 😦
strange python
US still pays retarded amounts for 15s idgi
i had 20 chests, weekly + antorus without good loot an then 985 argus ring
echo estuary
cus the skillcap was rather high to say the least and everything was timeconsuming, hence you mained one char ;>
lone junco
Other than that a full expac of trash.
strange python
maybe my mage will have better luck on the gearing up train
actually havent touched my rogue all week trying to level this sthing
bleed rn is like locked except rings
and neck
tacit bay
yeah like 6 tier pieces, wrists, ring, trinkets xd
what is even left
like 2 offpieces and a ring
strange python
its ok tho im gonna get bracers first lego
tacit bay
and 1 stat completely dead unusable
and the other nearly unusuable
so 2 stats as well
8D
fun to gear
vapid moth
Relics are bs
strange python
im relic lcoked unless its Mass aswell lmao
at least next expac the whole tier thing should be less annoying
vapid moth
Lmao let's hope the heart is actually interesting
tacit bay
yeah also good point
relics locked to 3 traits or you just want to die if you get one outside of them
vapid moth
So uh
grim wolf
can i trouble someone to look at a log for me and help me see where i could improve?
strange python
okay i put the relic in, no longer poison boi 😄
😮 wait are you 
yeah just got a relic from item restoration to be 7/7 MA again
and ill swap enchants now 😄
my bleed sim
without pantheons now
vapid moth
@grim wolf link the log lol
strange python
huh and without t20 too
thats neat
thats the highest sim without t20 ive seen
could be the 985/980 offpieces tho
vapid moth
What's your ilvl Orgin
vapid moth
sigh
strange python
instead of eoc
yeah i cant be bothered farming t20 with those offparts
@lone junco you seein this guys bleed stuff? figured youd be interested
i dont even think it would be a real upgrade except INSANE titanforges
possibly, idk jack's is 940/960 and he sims close to yours
i guess really insane ilvl offparts carries a bit
im only 36% crit btw
vapid moth
36 is a lot
strange python
really?
36 crit, 5 haste, 18 vers, 159 mastery
wow how many BB traits do you have
im 4 bb
..
im 7/7 MA and 6/7 MALCH
vapid moth
You could turn it into more crit though
strange python
wait how?
vapid moth
Get rid of vers
strange python
yeah obv, dont have other gear possibilities rn tho
vapid moth
Yeah
strange python
hmm, with only 4 bb and no t20
its probably going to feel like shit
energy starved shit
but thats just personal opinion
vapid moth
T20 doesn't give bigger energy gains
strange python
a lot less energy spent
just dicked a dummy for a bit
felt pretty smoth
actually
idk i have 41% crit+dogs
but im 4/4bb now
tried it rn with 960 eoc
got 970 dog too
i can get rid of malch traits for bb soonish i guess
shrewd oriole
36 crit is p low for bleed
strange python
BB isnt an end all be all but it helps with the crit thing, idk personally id say get more crit and you're golden but your sim is high anyway
shrewd oriole
Jack’s gear is significantly lower ilvl and he sims 100k morr
shrewd oriole
Def need more crit
strange python
ill just a 985 kinga ring and some gucci rerolls on my tokens and ill be set
*ill just get
shrewd oriole
Lul
strange python
simming you with 930 t20 just for kicks
shrewd oriole
Idd
strange python
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c4JGvoksEzbnDJ3j7aT2NF just in the nature of comparison
dire spoke
18 vers smells like sub gear
dire spoke
play what you like and/or sim higher 🤷🏻
strange python
i mean this bleed sims 3k higher than my poison b4 with the diffrent setup
but bleed seems a bit worse for m+
depends on your group
if you play with heavy aoe dps, just burst the priority add since you have vendetta exsang for every pack nearly
Crit
55.00
Mastery
42.18
Vers
41.48
Agi
34.89
Haste
33.70
my weights 😄
guess ill get myself some crit food for sure
prime void
T20 does give energy gain tho
Coven, dogs, garothi hands
T20 feels good. Also makes bleed garrotes line up better
strange python
i mean @strange python `s sim showed it pretty clear that my t20 would need to be insanely high to be a dps gain
that sim is anecdotal, with t20 head/hands would be good if you had a high t21 hat
potent lintel
What is the best ring on mythic +??
strange python
pure ST youll be ok, but on 2t id still play t20
@potent lintel sim yourself to get your stat weights so you can see which ring is best for u?
civic palm
Anyone else ever not been able to queue for SOME dungeons due to not having your "artifact"?
strange python
@copper saffronbory yeah ill see on raid night i guess 😄
dire spoke
No miz 🤔
civic palm
It's weird > _>
dire spoke
dire spoke
Maybe the game flagged you tank or heal 
did you logg from any of these roles on to rogue?
strange python
did u boost this rogue?
civic palm
Nope.
Yes, over 2 years ago.
Need to log to see if I can get rid of whatever whacky fucking flags I have.
strange python
you have 1 of your artifact weapons still open or some quest not finished
civic palm
No
strange python
googled this a bit and found some ppl got a error with that but i guess thats only when u boosted this char in legion
so i guess random fuckups from blizz
civic palm
Yeah weird flagging or SOMETHING.
dire spoke
leech talented, flagged healer
civic palm
Not this time!!
dire spoke
dire spoke
tickets 
vapid moth
Hmm
civic palm
Ticket submitted I suppose.
vapid moth
Discord is dead tonight
lone junco
Bleed is a dps loss in m+ all the way around. Only upper is something I do.
civic palm
Character is over 3 years old, that makes no sense for this issue.
lone junco
Yeah. Upper boots let's you vendetta exang at each pull.
Just don't be silly and cd on the arcane mobs before curator.
In ideal conditions you get 2v 2ex
lone junco
Yeah. One open one evo. Really good for last boss as well. The phazing causes alignment
strange python
u saw the sim noobe?
lone junco
Sin M+ stream
glad to see the p2 lust for upper last
its what weve been doing for a while. the orbs are just dumb
miracle step and Seliathan
strange python
poison 😦
vapid moth
< Still hasnt done a +19 :/
vapid moth
Oof the word carry makes it sound like I won't be doing anythinf
strange python
take you with 😮
vapid moth
That I can live with
strange python
huh?
spare cloud
Huh?
spring radish
Hi all, i'm new in here, as well as being a rogue ingame. Always played healers only but decided to try rogue.... and love it. Hope you'll can help me becoming a bettet rogue. Cheers
vapid moth
Lmao welcome to the class.
supple hearth
hey welcome! make sure to check out the pins
vapid moth
Giggle popped into assassination for once 🤔
spare cloud
Welcome to hell
supple hearth
for once...
spare cloud
??
sterile ocean
is bracers or boots better for assassin?
im talking overall
i got all leggos on my rogue i know 1 is higher then the other
ah k
supple hearth
btw
there are resources
in the pins
that give
a stacked simmed comparisonm
of legendary combos
for ur spec
plain thistle
NO 
supple hearth
o-oh ok
sterile ocean
i know i was asking cause theres some changes blizz has done and i dident even know
even looking at logs they change 😛
supple hearth
x) they havent made any >recent changes tho
plain thistle
yeah, because some ppl run boots+bracer, other shoulder+bracer or shoulder+boots
supple hearth
the resources are still good
plain thistle
😛
sterile ocean
i mean for exsample before i had to spec into deeper stratagem then 3 months later i dident know someone in lfr told me vigor is better went to look at logs and people were speced into vigor
spare cloud
sterile ocean
but yeah i dident know 😛 so thats why i asked
sterile ocean
yeah
vapid moth
Yawn
warm geode
vapid moth
70mill of ftw
lone junco
On phone. But I think best timing is ripping 2nd exang before hands. And keep up on hands.
I get 8 ish.
Is why we stack mastery over vers.
That and maintaining Kb.
4 is fine.
You get back to back to back crits tho.
During Kb you have enough crit to refresh rupture. Mut env. And never drop.
I only exang 6
Mut4 is the gold.
warm geode
im think the 6cp is only necessary for exsg rupture, for everythng else 4-6 is good to spend
cuz is linear
lone junco
I agree.
prime void
Hi tisumi
lone junco
TBH. I'll even 3cp rupture during Kb so keep it.
warm geode
depend on the duration of the 5cp rupture before
lone junco
The pandemic is applied to the new based on cp used on the old.
prime void
❤❤
warm geode
7.2sec for 5, 8.3sec for 6 is right?
lone junco
Dunno tbh. I use a lot of 5s going in and vanish rupture 6
And. I fish at the vanish.
Meaning 5/6 mut. Vendetta. Mut mut vanish rupture exang.
If you get that extra rupture close enough to the exang. It can push 7sec bota to the vanish.
warm geode
but is so sad to prefer bleed and deal like 80% of dps compared to poison -.-``
short fights is so much better poison/shoulders
lost horizon
i mean with proper gearing bleed can be comparable to poison
lone junco
2:15 is good timing as shoulder.
warm geode
^
lone junco
But shoulder ready at hands is really a shitty. It pushes a major off the end of the fight to delay.
Aggrimar I have a round at 45sec during the fire aoe. So I cloak there to run it.
warm geode
the thing the i was struggling , keep env buff
lone junco
Fuck env.
lone junco
Exang spec as a whole is higher avg (for me). Lower max.
warm geode
u can swap depending on lucky
lone junco
Such is the goal.
warm geode
6cp env is really good 8sec env buff
lone junco
And. Aaaannd. I lover the tighter peak times
warm geode
but when the rng hits, u need to use 2 generators to env
lone junco
Yeah. 2p garrote is fine.
warm geode
so mut(2) mut(2) -> env
lone junco
Yep.
prime void
The peak times are very nice.
lone junco
Peaks mean you are always ready for some juice.
I run exang on the big fire ads for aggrimar.
warm geode
i need a decent FUCKING NECK
lone junco
Barbed.
warm geode
the only piece of gear the is shit
965 mast/vers or 940 socked crit/mast
my options
lone junco
My 935 barbed socket neck beats an array of 960s.
warm geode
just want 960 socked crit/mast
prime void
^ gl
warm geode
at least
prime void
I do a lot of content.
warm geode
8/9 master
warm geode
someone else is saving high proc relics in case all traits r gone at pre patch expansion?
dire spoke
toph and tisumi are killing me rn 
prime void
What they do @dire spoke . Can you not keep up?
dire spoke
talking stupid bullshit 
prime void
🤔 🤔 🤔
lone junco
@warm geode 2.108 I think.
spare cloud
Zempai is friendzoned by everyone
warm geode
i think the filter is so mess up, can search for good amount of exsg talent
prime void
Why dont you mythic raid?
lone junco
I need flex.
lone junco
If I get wife aggro, I log out.
prime void
Cant ditch current home
keen inlet
yup
lone junco
But jobs. Vaca. Travel. Kids. Wife.
strange python
Hey guys. So I have a serious problem. Idk if I am functionally autistic or my concerns are valid, but I cannot for the life of me know when I am supposed to be pooling energy. I don't have t21 4pc yet, and my rogue is my main alt, but holy shit this is annoying, lol
lone junco
It works like it sounds.
fervent beacon
But yes, pool before you use TB or KB.
@strange python
Will be better and easier soon as you get T21
strange python
Okay.
dire spoke
UGH
strange python
Giving me a panic attack since our guilds ass rogue is telling me to pool and I just get cucked for energy to not be able to maintain envenom/SoT and Rupture all the time
dire spoke
spare cloud
4pc is huge @strange python
dire spoke
shit ... I should have worn the ramkahen tabard while I was farming that stupid dragon
oblique notch
Guys what is the best trinket for assa rouge on m+21?
spare cloud
Depends on dungeon
prime void
Are you on tich noobe?
oblique notch
lets say Hov ?
prime void
Id 100% be willing to trial you. I handle recruitment for my guild.
Shoot me a dm if you ever wanna chat about it.
Im drunk thougj. So not tonight 👌
spare cloud
Mastery stat sticks with high itemleve, fang, eoc for bosses, Moonglaives for big pulls, pantheon trinket
spare cloud
Nice
spare cloud
It gets ignored all the time anyways
spare cloud
Its fucking hilarious to see that other guy look at chat and almost shitting himself holding his laughter back
but not reading it
lone junco
@prime void tbh I wrecked a few relationships with eq raiding then vanilla naxx1. I try to keep my time down. I've played a lot recently because I've been on Alts and they all need time.
fringe ginkgo
guy in my guild hasn't played wow for like 6 months gets an alpha invite 😡
prime void
Bois im not correcting my typos
lone junco
And my raid is 5.
lone junco
So 5 plus lfr plus m+.
Etc
I've enjoyed rogue tho.
Dumpster my raid dps usually.
Was a good change from hpal.
spare cloud
@prime void Why are you not reclearing you've been extending since a few weeks right?
Everyones I've seen in your raid is like 6 ilvl under other groups progressing on argus
lone junco
@gusty kestrel yeah, the 45 sec timing is right before hands for me.
then I just hold EP on hands.
lone junco
doesnt help
prime void
I just want to reclear with my new set-up
lone junco
get some fat parses
prime void
And crusj tom
lone junco
and a 970 dogs
prime void
Have you seen my myth logs noobe
lone junco
so dont let him pretend to be a god
spare cloud
If everyone had 6 ilvls more then the 3% wipe wouldve been a kill
dire spoke
no one is allowed to say misclick when you don't click
prime void
6 ilvls for everyone is alot.
spare cloud
I mean our average ilvl is 976
Your guilds is 971
So 5 ilvls
that change is huge
Ofc you'd be missing out on trys as well
thats the tradeoff
prime void
You guys are mutliple recleara
lone junco
prime void
We need people to not be deal early
spare cloud
Just as an example
prime void
And tbh our reclear would be like no pulls on aegus
spare cloud
Tyra has 5 ilvls more than me
dire spoke
depends on stats too
spare cloud
He sims 200k higher
spare cloud
Yeah it isnt
prime void
Tyra has amazing stat and relics
manic vigil
tyra doesn't count he's like rogue-jesus
spare cloud
Ofc not but the changes are still there
manic vigil
spare cloud
Idk if he sims 2,5 tbh
spare cloud
I can't sim him because he always logs out as sub
prime void
That wipe still woukd have ahppened
spare cloud
for wowprogress sim ranks
prime void
Just would.have been 1%
spare cloud
Can't know for sure
prime void
If I had been aluve
We would habe killed
But.i got fuckrd by a brand new tabk
So w/e
manic vigil
nice typing mizu
wild bane
Hello, anyone have any good tips for Coven HC?
lone junco
@wild bane I stay to the edge near the pillars. there is often a safe space there.
wild bane
:^D
prime void
Yo!
lone junco
dont move in for chain lightning until after safe spaces are clear.
wild bane
I mainly mean, is there a way to up my dmg dealt in the fight since I feel like its very lacking
lone junco
refresh rupture on each boss the whole time
wild bane
So multidotting basically?
manic vigil
boots bracers subterfuge and dot those bitches 
prime void
Run 2p4p
manic vigil
^
wild bane
So I should be using SF on all multiple target bosses?
prime void
Uh
wild bane
for the garrote spam
prime void
I play nootz bravers
wild bane
I can link you logs if you can see something specific
manic vigil
wild bane
I got absolute ass legendaries
prime void
But with shoukders maybe sf
lone junco
if you play nootz bravers, you can do alright
prime void
What leggos you running ?
wild bane
I got no BiS legendaries sadly
manic vigil
high five noobe 
lone junco
no bis, then just focus one, refresh rupture at the swap.
wild bane
Empty crown and Will of valeera, the least shit stuff I got
Okay so I just focus the shadow witch as I have.
manic vigil
prime void
I wish I had good gear.:(
manic vigil
same
prime void
I want to be a big boy:(
lone junco
30m is bigboi shit
NS conc bota is the real deal
you cant play around it cause the buffs are too short. but 👌
annnd.
because of timing, you squeezed this in.
and got a gold.
id never play 4min meta. bleh.
imagine blinking during your opener
-10%
manic vigil
tisumi skilled as fuck confirmed 