#assassination
gaunt moat
lone junco
@summer socket 2-5
dire spoke
yes, but 3h are over
lone junco
@lone junco unless they are super special and play Alacrity.
Nice.
@summer socket ^
summer socket
@lone junco if my stat line is sitting around 32%crit, 6%haste, 180mastery, 11vers does that sound somewhat ideal?
dire spoke
That question is completely irrelevant if you wear the best gear currently available to you and play the fitting talents
summer socket
but would that spread be ok? should i focuxs on dropping a specific stat or raising another?
dire spoke
Do you even simulate ?
lone junco
Check raidbots dot com. And create stat weights.
scarlet hawk
Some kind soul in here, willing to have a chat with me about a log of mine or two?
I know that's prolly a long shot, LOL
dire spoke
Post the log and somebody will draw lines in it
scarlet hawk
😄
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KVFmBbjJrYQRyd7A#fight=5&type=damage-done&source=5
It's just HC, and just ST. Ignore what boss it is. I want feedback rotation I suppose.
wise frigate
And by someone he means Noobe.
scarlet hawk
Noobe has been very helpful tonight ! lel
dire spoke
Dialla: KB looking okay-ish, I guess CP for env cuck you sometimes https://snag.gy/G4xJQV.jpg
but you play shitty TBs https://snag.gy/Oz8SQv.jpg
lone junco
@grim canopy Raid absolutely. M+ rarely. I use them for tyr bosses.
dire spoke
@scarlet hawk and how the hell are you getting 1 > 3 that often? https://snag.gy/vVOUbW.jpg
what you doing man
scarlet hawk
Okay so I need to improve how I lign up TB I guess? Wait for KB more often?
dire spoke
No
dire spoke
You want to cast envenom (+builders) only inside TB
scarlet hawk
Oh
Pool for TBs then
Crit chance is 28.7% btw.
I prolly just use garrote on 0 cps more often than I should? Can optimise my resource spending that's for sure
dire spoke
When are you refreshing garrote?
scarlet hawk
Pandemic is 30% ye?
dire spoke
yes
scarlet hawk
So when I remember to after 4.5s
But sometimes I accidently do it on cd.. so like 6 seconds left.
dire spoke
it's 5.4
but you're doing nothing pretty often https://snag.gy/hZcqV6.jpg
there are not that many mechanics in heroic garothi
scarlet hawk
Energy starved.
Ehm
Oh right garothi
Hmm. Take a look on felhounds
Prolly better example than garothi
It does seem a bit weird on the log with the resource honestly....
Says I garrote on 52s. But energy doesn't fall till 53 seconds?
dire spoke
idk why an other boss would make your playstyle look different but here, okay KB https://snag.gy/FE2XQM.jpg
not so good TB https://snag.gy/AXqCa8.jpg
2 envenoms with your crit are fine, could be 3 with luckies
1 is just bad planning
Sometimes it can be a gain to rupture on 9s or let it fall to 2s
pandemic is just perfect play without stressing your rotation
shrewd oriole
where did you get that information?
dire spoke
weak mentioned refreshing early can be fine, but only as a workaround
when you're unlucky with CP
shrewd oriole
should strive to not misplay
scarlet hawk
Best advice tonight 💪
spare cloud
dire spoke
I mean I'm not even top1000 what do I know
scarlet hawk
So Zempai, when you put all of these crosses and 1s and 2s. Counting how many envenoms I get in tb buff. And so when you cross one out you want me to pool those CPs instead?
And If I'm at 5 cps and tb up
I just tb and envenom and sacrifice the cps?
Well, I guess I shouldn't have 5 cps idealy. but ye.
primal tangle
You shouldn't really be overcapping cp
primal tangle
^
dire spoke
the cross above TB just says bad TB play ... the cross on envenom is not in 9s window
I mean you give yourself 9s to envenom as often as possible, you need to know how to play it
scarlet hawk
Yea
scarlet hawk
How my rogue works? What do you mean by that? lol
scarlet hawk
Depends on current CPs tho ye?
dire spoke
I get more 3s and 4s than you, yeah
scarlet hawk
What's your crit?
dire spoke
36
dire spoke
I'm not saying you should get more crit because it would be false eventually, if I gear 45% crit I don't do more dps
and I have 1 BB
scarlet hawk
Ye ye
I get that. For me, the only thing I've optimised for has just been my ST sim. So I'm just 100% into mastery where I can
dire spoke
it just changes the playstyle a little with the rupture timing and pooling around cooldowns
scarlet hawk
And just goes for whatever sims the highest in that scenario
dire spoke
try to get 100 energy before TB once, maybe even make TB the 4 or 5 CP cast before envenom
maybe it works
woven plinth
um my first 2 leggos i got were the ravenholt ring & sephuz are they those good leggos ?
im running the mastery posion build
dire spoke
If you don't have leggos yes, if you have other ones no
you can find builds+combs on herodamage.com
woven plinth
comps?
woven plinth
oh ty
civic palm
2-3
frozen badger
How good would a 955 Eye of Command be for Assass?
dire spoke
you can find trinket sims on herodamage.com
frozen badger
ty friend
civic palm
HA
shrewd oriole
got purple parse
vapid moth
What ilvl?
spare cloud
968
shrewd oriole
click the log
dire spoke
@spare cloud grats schnucki
spare cloud
Why
spare cloud
I'd fok you
spare cloud
8%
dire spoke
should be 20
south mica
righto so sub 5% is pretty unlucky
shrewd oriole
@south mica sim it
south mica
or shit got moved out of it
shrewd oriole
it's different for different people
but you can check whats your average
the lower your mastery the lower your average
it's 8% for me tho
south mica
plus toxic blade would affect it too i guess
dire spoke
I'm hungry 
south mica
hmm, how much mastery do you have @shrewd oriole
shrewd oriole
226
south mica
how'd you get so much 😮
shrewd oriole
nice
south mica
im only at 165%
shrewd oriole
@south mica good gear? idk what to tell you
shrewd oriole
yep
tight meteor
@shrewd oriole do you actually have 226% mastery wtf
shrewd oriole
ye
dire spoke
sub: Coming Soon There is a new talent hiding in the shadows!
shrewd oriole
30% crit~
dire spoke
Hidden Blades removed from sub
tight meteor
how much crit
shrewd oriole
226% mastery
tight meteor
ah
dire spoke
south mica
what ilev?
primal tangle
Whats the highest titanforge you all have ever seen
shrewd oriole
mastery still sims highest
primal tangle
Biggest improvement %
shrewd oriole
🤷🏿
dire spoke
985 🤷🏻
shrewd oriole
@primal tangle 65 ilvls on a 880 item for me
dire spoke
oh
primal tangle
My disc got a 960 lfr
scarlet hawk
What's your character Toxic?
shrewd oriole
Tomm
vapid moth
sigh my average PB is 7
shrewd oriole
my mythic logs are private but u can go over my heroic stuff i u want
vapid moth
Why do people keep mythic stuff private. If they're not top players I mean
shrewd oriole
not my choice
south mica
our guild does it to prevent padding
shrewd oriole
It'd be public if i could
primal tangle
Well its for people to not get distracted I guess?
vapid moth
Imma pad if I want to smh
shrewd oriole
scarlet hawk
Tomm on what realm?
vapid moth
974 :(. I feel weak
vapid moth
Same. None of my relics have MoS
primal tangle
94 ilvl
vapid moth
Actually all of my relics are 940 and below
primal tangle
👺
primal tangle
Honestly cant get more than 2mil as sub
shrewd oriole
hmm
scarlet hawk
What sort of increase are you looking at from Taste of Mana?
vapid moth
minimal increase based on the build
vapid moth
12 sec every 3 min ain't much
civic palm
Prog time weeeeooooooo
spare cloud
wewoo
dire spoke
@shrewd oriole how do I get this view
spare cloud
Yes.
scarlet hawk
Does aggramar not count for allstar?
vapid moth
No
dire spoke
@spare cloud you so clever asian dude
spare cloud
Obviously Asian
vast forum
they should have used boss damage done for allstar on aggra imo
boss + the 2 big adds
vast forum
why is it shit?
dire spoke
because you can pad
vast forum
is it really padding if it's effective boss damage?
vast forum
yes, but you still do the damage to the boss and it is actually better than not doing it (even if add dmg isn't necessary)
spare cloud
The logs are still there
dire spoke
you do more damage to the boss due to more finishers
vast forum
i mean
dire spoke
No
vast forum
it also doesn't matter if there aren't any rankings anyway
dire spoke
vast forum
if you put it like that
vast forum
but if it can be ranked properly, why not just do it
vast forum
you just keep the dmg done to small adds out
spare cloud
also I imagine its annoying to do for the developers
vast forum
which they already did for trilliax
dire spoke
how can it be proper when there are classes who can pad and some can't ?
vast forum
dmg done to the bots was subtraacted
how is that a problem zempai? if it only considers your boss damage?
dire spoke
ressources?
spare cloud
Yeah but if you did passive cleave then you would not get the ability counted at all
vast forum
so you're saying "keep coven out of the rankings"
because warlocks get infinite shards
spare cloud
Tisumi c ome join voice
indigo cradle
A dead channel until BFA
vast forum
against 1 boss
so doing things that will increase your damage to that 1 boss
makes you a better player, right?
dire spoke
yes
vast forum
so how is it not right to take boss damage into consideration for rankings?
i'm not saying that it's the most accurate way of representing how well someone did, but then again, rankings aren't that
it's almost like you have no valuable input so you just go and act all cynical and sarcastic to sound cool...
lone junco
@shrewd oriole LOL Hemo Dfa
vapid moth
Do you guys ever use distract?
dire spoke
I like to turn around argus with distract
slim estuary
Hey just quickly in opener why do we use TB before KB but TB @ 9 sec every other time (i understand the last one not the opener part)
vapid moth
I just learned it can be used in conjunction with shroud to make sure no one triggers the ads
echo estuary
Distract interrupts healers drinking so its useful in pvp
dire spoke
@slim estuary you don't delay every TB ?
slim estuary
You get what i mean
lone junco
8 argus kills on March 3. must be selling carries
vapid moth
1 at a time?
lone junco
6 boss 20sec. Glaives doing work.
vapid moth
Fucked up vanish
echo estuary
Wasnt there a bug with faction change or realm change that lockout got reset
scarlet hawk
lone junco
@zealous dew opener looks ok. def uses vendetta tho
wait 4 ruptures.
I got those legs without socket. 965. cant use them tho
rip
ill check them out though.
lol
thats 23M dps max
shrewd oriole
how many targets?
lone junco
wtf. I went to mute him and sent an invite to some random server
scarlet hawk
Cache @gusty kestrel
I'm a 9/11m pleb
Normal Imonar *** 😅
Beautiful
It's lovely
dire spoke
I got 970 haste trinket aswell
rain urchin
advice on cd usage for M Imonar?
shrewd oriole
nice
rain urchin
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok!
spare cloud
Like
depends on how long your bridges take
If your bridges take 45 seconds then you can use kb before you transition
rain urchin
yeah I mean, hard to really pin anything optimal down
mhmm
lmao
is it worth saving vendettas to stack with vanish? or just blow em on cd and try to stack during execute
plain thistle
with shoulder always delay vanish to use with vendetta
scarlet hawk
What does it take for me to get puke-green name so I can represent the puke poison team?
dire spoke
skill
scarlet hawk
LUL
rain urchin
so I'd vendetta on CD and save my vanish for the next vendetta I guess
scarlet hawk
Gz on the trinket btw! 💪
echo estuary
Team white ftw
rain urchin
cause the way it tends to work out we get through the first transition and my vendetta is up and I have like 30sec on vanish
scarlet hawk
lol
steep obsidian
i bet you get shitty players who have just had lucky titanforges only 😛
i seen some really bad players 970+
vapid moth
I have too. Especially in M+
shrewd oriole
the ravenholdt community
fallow estuary
Excuse me? Voidelfs?
shrewd oriole
belf?
strange python
playing anime elf in 2018
vapid moth
Question
strange python
toxic
vapid moth
Does anyone else always have concordance and any other procs up for the first pull of every M+ boss?
I mean. Yall were legit all active a minute before I asked the question
strange python
prob means nobody knows the answer or really payed attention to it
prime void
Or cares
pseudo parcel
whats ur openung rotation with NIGHTSTALKER
chrome tuskBOT
Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
fallow estuary
How many Targets until vanishing a bomb is worth it? 🤔
vapid moth
Huh
fallow estuary
Mayb2? 🤔
strange python
vanishing a bomb just seems like a bad idea
fallow estuary
Why would it? If you got 4 targets the psn bomb hits the meter like a truck
Way more than 6 seconds of vendetta dmg
strange python
youd have to give me an example, in m+ id much rather save it because there are better people to be doing aoe dps
strange python
same with fights like AHC, our niche is priority add/boss damage why waste it on adds that others can take care of
imo not worth fucking up the alignment but ymmv
fallow estuary
And yea in high M+ add dps is important
So i wouldn't save a vanish
if it could get the group alot more total dps
strange python
outside of like skorpyron levels of adds i wouldnt vanish a bomb, but thats jsut me personally
steep obsidian
nah you need idiots to not come and burst down the same mob you are too
fallow estuary
imonar <---
steep obsidian
oh
immonar
you need idiots to just die then so you can be in execute forever
with bracers
and bomb
thats my best parse on taht fight anyway
lone junco
@shrewd oriole ... 955 mastery. too bad bst man
fallow estuary
Mayb i'll roll a Monk until prepatch ❤
strange python
sabod i play bleed a lot since i run with either a fire mage or boomy and a hunter/warlock
so usually vanish high prio if i can definitely have it for the next boss
prime void
What did your rogue want to achieve
fallow estuary
Kill Argus M and get the Mount
i was so bummed when i didn't get the Archimonde Mount because my old guild was only able to kill him 12 weeks prior and i didn't roll it
so im happy it worked out this addon ❤
manic vigil
dark crag
that is fake
vapid moth
Lmao that's cute
nimble tartan
dark crag
who?
dire spoke
dark crag
how is assa looking in the alpha?
dark crag
not so important like on live?
shrewd oriole
more consistnet
spare cloud
Try playing without combopoints
cursive hatch
hey Tom, you ever see an SND rogue get nearly 50% uptime on pantheon proc?
spare cloud
its fun
shrewd oriole
🤔
shrewd oriole
lmao nutty
spare cloud
carried
cursive hatch
we were getting close to the p2 transition and I noticed I was above 4 mil dps
and knew something was up
manic vigil
I had 2% pb on vari heroic today .... good times
lone junco
@shrewd oriole just pugged a lower as sub for lols. peaked at 20M on a room after opera. not bad at all.
manic vigil
sexy
steep obsidian
not even a 100
steep obsidian
wipe it guys didnt get a pb in opener
lone junco
was playing my mage the other day in lfr and realized it still had WOD pvp gloves.
725 or so
strange python
everyone got alpha access ?
shrewd oriole
dont think most people do
steep obsidian
there was a decently big wave i think
but only one of my friends got in
which is good because you couldnt even do a dungeon in the queue before last night
strange python
afflock looks :oooo atm
steep obsidian
i managed to find one in about 10 mins queue
dire spoke
🤔 cook or sleep
dire spoke
@prime void so who gonna stream argus poggers
cursive hatch
I was streaming, but GMs internet went out and we have no bench right now
so that was a super early raid night
grim canopy
what do people mean by only using 3 master asasssin relics
"and therefore it is advised that you only use 1 or 3 Icon Master Assassin relics."
why not 2
oh lol
summer moon
2,336m dps garothi is worth?
strange python
o.o worth waht
grim canopy
been doing a lot of M+ finally, always first place when does sin drop off?
dire spoke
when trash takes longer and you don't get PB 🤷
dire spoke
kill inc
prime void
oh my fucking god
misty dock
dire spoke
maybe he wants me to rant on it
prime void
hit him with the red
spare cloud
My motivation isnt working
dire spoke
your sleeping pattern is as bad as your CD pattern
spare cloud
I feel you
dire spoke
❤ ily both
spare cloud
😭
dire spoke
yeah 
spare cloud
nty
I'd be content with combo points though
was really fun to play the feel game
like did i crit?
Hmm
maybe not
spare cloud
Yeah I dont track my dmg numbers that large
prime void
my cp = number
spare cloud
I dont track my dmg numbers that large.
manic vigil
tisumi 
bully please
dire spoke
uni 👋🏻 come watch mizuxe kill teh boz
dire spoke
oddy21, he can't stream at his waifus
manic vigil
supple hearth
We really should have a cooking channel
gilded lark
rogue is at the top of the dps meter 
vapid moth
Where it belongs
gilded lark
unless it's you
dire spoke
it's mizuxpee
vapid moth
Ouch
vapid moth
We've already established I'm not a bad rogue
gilded lark
but you're not a good rogue
manic vigil
vapid moth
I still disagree but that can be left for debate
vapid moth
I say a lot of stupid shit. Doesn't mean I do it
vapid moth
Remember to open with Mutilate
prime void
good talk
manic vigil
dire spoke
ranting on M clearers 
vapid moth
I procrastinate too much
sf vs ns non-conclusive. Does not compute
dire spoke
lol
manic vigil
also thanks @dire spoke , now I'm hungry as well
vapid moth
Fuck subterfuge
vapid moth
Nah
prime void
What was your prog again ?
vapid moth
Can't play what you're not geared for
vapid moth
Darn
dire spoke
stop bullying
vapid moth
I guess not
manic vigil
wise frigate
YUGE
manic vigil
I just realized someone logged my argus normal kill with alacrity the other day 
wise frigate
Pro-tip, aim to the left/right of people. Hits even further. You gotta switch each hit so like when she swings left, aim to the left, right swing to the right.
prime void
right tisumi
manic vigil
well it was a shitter pug with a big dick execute phase
prime void
thats a feels bad 😦
manic vigil
still hilarious tho
vapid moth
Why is it that my ilvl percentage is lower for Argus if my dps is higher
dire spoke
what
prime void
that sentence hurt my head
vapid moth
I'm.pretty sure the range is 960 to 962
spare cloud
Hmmmmmm
vapid moth
Ugh
gilded lark
cuz ur shit
dire spoke
wow 😄
manic vigil
holy fuck
dire spoke
dire spoke
that must be >15% PB
manic vigil
poor you 😛
dire spoke
I switched to sin at 965 I believe
simmed my sub gear on some sin builds, was dps increase already
I had like 15% vers on sub, was weird
🤷🏻 crazy maffs
prime void
just feels clunky
:/
I do miss sub though
like I couldnt play sub at my ladsy
itd be impossible
dire spoke
that planning around TB and KB constantly actually stresses me the fok more than playing sub rotation
manic vigil
that grey parse today still triggers me 2% pb on varimathras. And the try before would have been orange for sure until they bombed the group at like 5% boss hp (maybe on purpose?! illuminati confirmed)
dire spoke
I smell an argus kill
prime void
dps too low
dire spoke
yeah boss got to much life
dire spoke
with 20man alive on last module it's ez kill
dire spoke
duck face?
YEAH XD
that middle female
rrr
but I like the old red lips more 🤔
oh right one has freckles 
dire spoke
let me check my nips
nips say there is a tight moment which could lead to wipe
go pandas!
echo cargo
minmax is so tight and juicy with this 975 kenny-g ring
36% crit and 225% mastery
nah, 4.5
prime void
yuck
turbid harbor
prime void
mastery build
turbid harbor
958 btw
manic vigil
damn
turbid harbor
was r2
prime void
noice
turbid harbor
some korean did 2.05 same day
manic vigil
pretty fucking good
chilly marsh
you guys doing mythic argus how you deal ith rage and fear ?
chilly marsh
its range 5 this debuff?
dire spoke
clean spread before it hits
turbid harbor
^
lone junco
thats my main spec tho
prime void
sub is infinitely harder to play
but we dont balance around skill
so enjoy a more difficult spec for shit returns
thanks indie dev company
yupppp
sin is zzzz
lone junco
that lower i just did was pretty lolzy
peaked at 20M dps.
never seen that before
sub cloak plus solid glaives on 15x
turbid harbor
big numbers 🤤
i was practicing some of the big pulls on tourney realm today
big numbers there too 🤤
in maw
lone junco
yeah i think it was 145m dmg or something. was about 1 or 2 rooms past opera
lone junco
must be that room.
turbid harbor
ya
turbid harbor
it's not much % but it's free
generally worth
yea i saw the video
im sad upper kara is one of the dungeons in the time trial
because if the tank you're playing with doesn't play warrior
you get cucked
lone junco
triple leap?
lone junco
lol
turbid harbor
it's like 10-15mil dmg
lone junco
that 20sec sim is pretty nice.
going to show my group how to use it, but need to disable lust
turbid harbor
are you raiding right now?
prime void
mhm
turbid harbor
good luck 😃
dire spoke
/oddy21
lone junco
i take back anything nice I said about the daenerys targaryen story line. my current book is a fucking snooze
steep obsidian
which book are you reading?
prisma wind
fuck yeah, just got my first +21 as sin
steep obsidian
grats
prisma wind
pug life
prime void
do you see the meter
like fuck me
where are people at
people are dying to everything
literally any mechanic you can name in p3
bad escort
lone junco
dance with dragons. book 5 maybe
prime void
bad rage
random scythe
random sweeping scythe
lack of heals
rent sould
All of the above
manic vigil
@lone junco what's wrong with it? Song of ice and fire rocks
lone junco
she spent too much time in the cities fiddle farting around. im only ilke 300 hours in tho
jovial kite
lone junco
audio books mostly
manic vigil
Never been an avid listener yeah
Idk why some people have to listen to music all the time
jovial kite
because MMMMMMWATCHA SAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
manic vigil
I don't even have a Spotify account 
But I don't regret that tbh
Nice data collection guys
prisma wind
Your data is already being collected in a million other ways haha
I like Spotify's discover weekly thing a lot
lone junco
chrome gg
manic vigil
I have no social media accounts
prisma wind
I mean you have a Discord account and play games
manic vigil
No payback cards
prisma wind
ah
manic vigil
Discord is true yes
prisma wind
Yeah I mean for social stuff I get that
lone junco
browser datas
manic vigil
Also true
prisma wind
Yeah I've long since accepted the invasive world we live in haha
prisma wind
For me it's about whether or not it's giving ME anything, so like with the Spotify example
I actually LIKE having my preferences used to give me new music
manic vigil
Tbf the most annoying thing is personalized ads. And I block 99% of all ads anyway
prisma wind
Absolutely
prime void
;im banned from my unis net 😦
manic vigil
Haha
sinful marsh
Anyone else excited for pre-patch alacrity madness?
manic vigil
dire spoke
mizuxe ):
zealous dew
morning ppl
fervent beacon
I stopped leveling my lightforge paladin soon as I saw the iron dwarf paladin mount
So so good.
humble crane
Can some critique my logs? Feel like im skill capped, doubt its gear holding me back unless its my mastery
humble crane
No im not, and the reson im saying skill capped is that im not really improving. So I am unsure if there is something fundamentally wrong with my play style
And I want to improve
viscid helm
Did you read the guide?
stark heart
fervent beacon
There aren't much to improve as per say, it just comes down to PB rng to parse well if that what you're trying to do
humble crane
Yeah I have read the guide a while ago
I also was playing outlaw for most of the start of antorus but swapped to assass.
I main swapped for antorus, from a mage
fervent beacon
Did you considered going boots/bracers @humble crane?
humble crane
simmed it, but it was a dps loss. Also, I dont really have any good shoulders to swap in 😦
fervent beacon
If you're able to use the shoulders off Garothi as it gives crit/mast, that will be your best replacement
vapid moth
Yeah
Go out there and pug mythic garothi
And make sure you lead it. Last thing you want is to join a group then get kicked and still have the lockout
humble crane
I know void, my raids dps is quite low
stark heart
I mean people parse well with shoulders as well
fervent beacon
your opening look bit odd or at least I think.
humble crane
And Xae, I dont need to pug it, we guild run it each week 😃
fervent beacon
Garrote > Mut > Rupture > Vend > TB > KB > vanish > env mut env mut until your mantle wears off
vapid moth
Oh lucky
humble crane
isnt that what im using void?
fervent beacon
I didn't see vend in the opening
but again, I don't see it on my log too, maybe im just blind
humble crane
which boss? I am using that sequence above. Perhaps it was a bad pull
Usually on like, kingoroth mythic I hold vendetta for first add
But for others im fairly certain im using the opener you just mentioned
I 'think' my kb/tb uses are less than they should be, as I hold it sometimes when I shouldnt
fervent beacon
your garrote uptime is at 87%, seems low for a patchwerk fight imo
humble crane
Garothi?
fervent beacon
Looking at your vari log
humble crane
That week, I just took over raid leading as our raid leader stepped down so I wasnt really that focused on myself for that kill -.-
fervent beacon
But I rarely ever hold any cooldowns except for if im approaching to 30% with vanish coming off cooldown then I can get that big burst sub 30%
humble crane
I was doing much better as outlaw before I switch to assass. Probably because there were less outlaw players
fervent beacon
Pretty much, i think sub have the lowest count for rogue specs atm.
humble crane
And I geared around outlaw. I think my mastery is still a bit low
fervent beacon
Was going to point out that you're using outlaw gloves, if you have 960 tier, probably be better.
and you could swap helm for 960 crit/mast helm
or you could also get mast/crit gloves as well off +
humble crane
Yeah I dont have any mastery gloves, and ive been a bit of a low priority because of the ilvl of my gloves
fervent beacon
our gear aren't that different that much but I'm built toward high crit for alacrity meme
reef axle
tried PB on the alpha...havent seen the numbers but the way it procs, i dont think it will go live 😦 thoughts on the 25% PB?
humble crane
Throw me your logs, so I can compare if you dont mind void
fervent beacon
Sure, but I'm running Alacrity atm
and I also ignored the add, so I purely just focus on the boss.
reef axle
yes so least its balancing it, but still seemed to do a fair bit of aoe dmg even after nerf, but quite satisfying to use honestly
humble crane
ty
fervent beacon
My PB doubled compared to your, 12% vs 6%
humble crane
heh I usually get good pb procs on our wipes, than for kills its like gg
fervent beacon
usually how it goes 
Having good NLC traits will also be solid as well
Running 7/7 both Master Assass and Alch 🤤
just one more trait for each until that
But I'm also running 37% crit so with my buff up, I'm typically at 45% crit so easy to get mut env mut env flow going
humble crane
@fervent beacon just got 965 haste/mastery shoulders from my mission -.-. Why not crit mastery godamnit lol
humble crane
ive got higher logs when comparing with you against most other bosses @fervent beacon , maybe the PB procs count for a significant amount of that difference. Although the garrote time was rubbish on my vari kill
yeah my 6% to his 12% on that fight is a big difference, but probably not 300k dps difference.
definately* not
stark heart
@humble crane 1) your uptime on bleeds is rather low
2) sequence on picture shouldn't happen ideally
3) you casted Vendetta on decimator and it lived only 10 seconds
4) second vanish is quite poorly used
5) for third I'd probably go the same as pull tb - kb - vanish - etc
iron portal
RNG is strong
humble crane
Is there somewhere to read more about this alacrity build?
thanks @stark heart
Are you from Myst Tisumi?
nice logs -.-
Nothing, you just have nice logs compared to mine
Yep, thats why im asking here. I need to improve a fair bit.
vapid moth
Alac yuck
humble crane
Do you sim lower with that build than the standard poison build out of curiousity Tisumi?
vapid moth
Everyone here uses the build they Sim best with
humble crane
Significantly? Because I just simmed boots/bracers with that build and its 100k lower
fervent beacon
It's about 1% dps loss for me atm with alacrity but I seems to be performing pretty well
its basically the same, but only difference is if you're running low on mastery, you want to use EP over MP
humble crane
I probably have the crit offpieces to get high crit
vapid moth
I know very well what talents it uses cause yall shove it down my throat every time I mention my dislike
Shouldn't be an asshole all the time tisume. Not good for your health
I don't though
quick ice
Brains don't know what's good for them
humble crane
I can get to 40% crit but I lose too much mastery I think
ah ok, I am at 40% crit, 151% mastery
vapid moth
Hell yeah my Mutilate Opener religion is alive and well
strange python
yo why did a sub rogue do 3m?
vapid moth
What fight was it
strange python
agg h
vapid moth
Aggramar is good for sub. That's about all I know
rose sapphire
