assassination

[frozen pecan]

lol

[solid nova]

I think i did mine at 910 ilvl 😄

[viscid helm]

[cerulean depot]

That feel than your monk, dh and rogue all have 965+ eoc

[solid nova]

Filthy monks

[frozen pecan]

I'll get mine later today

ez

[solid nova]

5 more hours till i can leave the purgatory of work and open my weekly chest

[viscid helm]

Tfw 885ilvl alt has 985 eoc

[solid nova]

975 crit/haste boots last week

[desert karma]

I tried a few times @solid nova but I cant seem to win

[solid nova]

Please be nice this week

[shrewd oriole]

Heroic run in 15 minutes

Who wants in

[viscid helm]

No

[shrewd night]

Tom

I fucking hate ur shit

[frozen pecan]

nice haircut

[viscid helm]

15:00

[shrewd night]

With these early runs

[viscid helm]

U idiot

[shrewd night]

[shrewd oriole]

AHAHAHA why

I’m doing another one at 3 @viscid helm

We can do two

Stop whining

[shrewd night]

How about doing one at 16:00

😠

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t have 3 chars lul

[desert karma]

Horde or Alliance?

[shrewd oriole]

Horde obviously

[shrewd night]

Delay the fucking run my man

[viscid helm]

I was the one supposed to get boosted

[shrewd oriole]

Ahahah

[shrewd night]

You keep doing them early just so I cant join

u piece of shit

[viscid helm]

2nd run gonna be full of shitters

[desert karma]

Can I join? or am I too low ilvl?

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm I can save my rogue for the 2nd run

What ilvl are you?

[viscid helm]

970ilvl

Or no spot

[desert karma]

952 ilvl

[viscid helm]

Also leather user

[shrewd oriole]

965+ yeah

Soz

It’s a big dick run

[desert karma]

so hard to get into any runs...

[shrewd oriole]

🤷

[solid nova]

My alts 952 and hasnt even stepped into antorus outside of lfr yet 😂

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[solid nova]

LFR 4 set OP

[desert karma]

I got into a HC run the other day but it fell apart ...

just my luck 😢

[shrewd oriole]

I have a mate who has two alts at 970 who haven’t done more than heroic

[shrewd night]

So

Tom

How about it

16:00

[solid nova]

Im throwing mine into hc this week

[shrewd night]

Lets go

[shrewd oriole]

How about

[desert karma]

you guys all have mythic raiding guilds?

[shrewd oriole]

We start at 3:30

[solid nova]

Yeah

[shrewd oriole]

And u join

[spare cloud]

How abour we start at 17:00

[shrewd oriole]

For the bosses we haven’t done

[spare cloud]

Then i can join as well

[shrewd oriole]

Nah 17 is too late for me

I gotta leave at 6

[shrewd night]

Sounds solid, add me on bnet tho fam

[spare cloud]

:(

[shrewd oriole]

Slide in my dms with that hashtag daddy

[desert karma]

sometimes I feel like quitting when I have to deal with the pug world 😢

[frozen pecan]

whipe @ coven inc. lul

[shrewd oriole]

Get a guild

[solid nova]

Just make your own pugs or get a guild

[shrewd oriole]

Nah we do special padding strat on coven LUL

Dps Warrior tanks the shadow add

P poggers

[desert karma]

I am in a guild, just wish they would take me on their hc runs

[shrewd oriole]

Easy top 100 if you’re not zempai

[frozen pecan]

hahaha

[viscid helm]

How is that special

[solid nova]

Well have they given reason as to not take you Matt?

[viscid helm]

Lmao

Thats the way you are supposed to do it

[shrewd oriole]

Stop bullying flowi

😦

[viscid helm]

So no switching

[spare cloud]

!warn Flowi

Why cant i do it

[desert karma]

@solid nova guess my ilvl and dps isnt the best

[solid nova]

My guilds HC runs we just want peoples alts at 935

And use your noggin

Or we'll take a mix of mains and boost fresh dings

[desert karma]

heaven forbid I ever use the B word 😄

[shrewd night]

Bit.. Oh

[solid nova]

Well we boost main raider alts, because its long term beneficial

For rerolls or progress where some classes are dominant

[desert karma]

Also, my guild doesnt have any rogues so its hard to get any positive critism

[solid nova]

Start with something like making your own normal pug

Log your own fights

Post them here

We'll critique you 😉

[shrewd night]

[viscid helm]

Pugs

[solid nova]

Mans guild isnt helping him

So gotta start somewhere

[shrewd oriole]

We’ll roast you

[solid nova]

Positively

[frozen pecan]

flowi and tom will help you gladly lul

[shrewd oriole]

Hey man I’m good at helping people 😦

[solid nova]

You'll get constructive criticism in a positive manner

[frozen pecan]

I know dude, just a bit of a dick sometimes 🙃

[desert karma]

my total playtime for this guy is 4 days and 50 minutes 😄

[solid nova]

Literally learning to log your own fights is a good thing to learn as well

[shrewd oriole]

Just yday, 3 guys I helped

[solid nova]

Along side simming

[shrewd oriole]

I mean yeah I’m a cunt

I won’t be nice

[solid nova]

I helped Fisch too yesterday

Was he double dipping DMs?

😡

[shrewd oriole]

Guy was a complete mongo

[solid nova]

I went over his logs in FINE detail

[frozen pecan]

he didn't want help from a sub rouge lul

[shrewd oriole]

Look at that

3 ruptures

[frozen pecan]

wtf

[desert karma]

But why is it that in the pug world, they want you to have all these things before you even do them?

[solid nova]

Did too! @frozen pecan

[shrewd oriole]

Within 10 seconds

[frozen pecan]

new meta

[solid nova]

@desert karma You'll always see pug requirements being super high.

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz at this point you’re meant to have done them

[desert karma]

That's like asking you to be an engineer before doing the engineering degree 😄

[shrewd oriole]

I ain’t gonna carry some shitter who doesn’t have curve

[spare cloud]

😢

[solid nova]

LFM Antorus HC - Link CE

[shrewd oriole]

Got better ways to waste my time

[zealous dew]

brb, going to buy curve, then join tom's raid and wipe it

[shrewd oriole]

I ask for 970 for heroic 🤷

[spare cloud]

[viscid helm]

Can you tell me how to snapshot bleeds with vendetta, Tom

[shrewd oriole]

It’s a speed run

[desert karma]

wow... a shitter

[shrewd oriole]

Not a charity

[desert karma]

nice oe

[frozen pecan]

😂

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm lul

There’s a bunch of community charity runs on reddit

Join those

I’m happy to teach you how to play, in discord

Doesn’t mean I want u in my runs

[viscid helm]

[frozen pecan]

lmao

[solid nova]

@desert karma No but in all seriousness, you can log your own fights and get familiar with simming gear comparisons and move from there mate.

If you don't want to post the logs publicly you can always pm them to me or someone else for a review.

We've all started somewhere to progress into mythic raiding guilds and such. Just requires a bit of commitment fam

[zealous dew]

do you ask 990 for M pugs

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

Cê for first 5

[viscid helm]

I started from the top mate

[spare cloud]

Now youre at the bottom

[zealous dew]

lolz

[viscid helm]

Exactly

[spare cloud]

Of top 3

Barely top 3

[shrewd oriole]

Not even rank 1

LUL

can’t beat SCO THE MAN

💪

[spare cloud]

Sco is just too talented

[shrewd oriole]

[frozen pecan]

can't beat perfecto lul

[desert karma]

@solid nova been practicing and doing all the content that I can as much as I can on this guy 😄 its the most fun I have ever had in any game but its just really hard to catch up being new

[solid nova]

Yeah mate i mean, my alt has 2 days played is is 952

Havent boosted anything

Pugged M+ etc

[sinful tapir]

curve and high ilvl don't mean anything anymore

People are garbage either way

[frozen pecan]

shots fired

[spare cloud]

High level player btw

[solid nova]

Pug salt escaping

[zealous dew]

yup, ppl on alt linking main curve then clueless

[shrewd oriole]

Idd

[sinful tapir]

It's pug salt, yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Get good

My pugs never wipe

[solid nova]

Can't have pugs that dont wipe if you dont pug 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

Been pugging every week since week 3

😠

[scarlet mantle]

cant wipe in raid if you dont play a dead game

[solid nova]

I'm a good boy and make a calendar invite on Sunday nights for peoples HC clears

[spare cloud]

Cant wipe raid if you flame in discord

[shrewd oriole]

I wiped more on the 3 bosses of lfr I did

Than I usually do on entire runs of HC

[frozen pecan]

lfr is the hardest content tho

[shrewd oriole]

I need to clear my keyboard 🐒

[desert karma]

I went into lfr this morning and their was a balance druid who didnt know he had to use his astral form for more dps

[frozen pecan]

you have to deal with a raid full of retards

[solid nova]

Until you've seen a 5m hp tank on Agg

Hush your gums

[desert karma]

how can a tank have less hp than me?

[solid nova]

LFR is where the spice happens

[spare cloud]

Warrior tanks dont have that much health

[desert karma]

thought there was an ilvl req for lfr 😛

[shrewd night]

Ilevel doesnt mean your stats are good

[solid nova]

I liked his green items

[shrewd night]

-cough-

[solid nova]

Beautiful colour

[scarlet mantle]

average lfr dps is 400k 😄

[solid nova]

If that lmao

[sinful tapir]

If one of your tanks has 5m hp it's better to let the geared one just solotank

[desert karma]

and I got out all that haste you guys told me to get rid of last time I was here 😄

[solid nova]

I enjoy the LFR warriors who spam tactics or call people out

[sinful tapir]

because the one with 5m hp is probably a retard that will fail doing rend

[solid nova]

Yeah Guffy

He just got 1 shot and DK solo tanked

Waste of a BR

Better to tricks/MD a geared dps then let him tank

[desert karma]

btw, how much versa do you typically need?

[spare cloud]

Read guide

For stats

[solid nova]

Vers isnt a high stat weight at all for me

[shrewd oriole]

rip

shit item

mastery crit 960 chest

:/

[solid nova]

Rekt

[frozen pecan]

FeelsBadMan

[spare cloud]

People who have been here before and still asking questions that are in the guide

[brisk forge]

Time to remove set pieces

[shrewd oriole]

[shrewd night]

Dont be toxic toph

[desert karma]

that's what shitters with small dicks get in their chest 😉

[shrewd oriole]

cant remove my chest dude rip

[spare cloud]

Asks how much versa you need

[shrewd night]

@desert karma Thats ironic

[spare cloud]

Followed by flame

[frozen pecan]

lul

[desert karma]

I was just making a joke xD

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

thats the xaethron special

be shit but flame

[spare cloud]

Idk last time you were asking for haste which is also in the guide

So cant judge of joke or not

[frozen pecan]

I laughed lul

[brisk forge]

Haste is topping the stats 😀

[spare cloud]

The xaethron special

Is like what every new guy does

[shrewd oriole]

[spare cloud]

Talks a little then starts spreading wrong information

Followed by saying its a meme to not lose all dignity

[shrewd oriole]

lmao

[spare cloud]

Dignity that wasnt there to begin with

[shrewd oriole]

[shrewd night]

T X I C

[spare cloud]

Shiennar is the prime example

[desert karma]

lol, I noticed there are quite a few on here xD

[spare cloud]

Then ignoring it like nothing happened when they get called out

[warm parcel]

Sepuz on lock 👌

[spare cloud]

Nice

[warm parcel]

Already outsimming rogue at 930 ilvl

ez clap

[spare cloud]

Wat

[shrewd oriole]

what

that sounds like a gross exageration

[spare cloud]

Doesnt warlock sim lower than rogue on st?

[shrewd oriole]

afflock doesnt even sim well

[spare cloud]

Generally

[warm parcel]

That was complete bullshit yes

[spare cloud]

Maybe hectic 10 man cleave

[warm parcel]

Prolly sims 1.3m

[spare cloud]

Ayyy

[shrewd oriole]

[brisk forge]

Typical rogues

[spare cloud]

Tisumi is here better go back to work

[desert karma]

why does no one use the legendary cape in dungeons?

[spare cloud]

Dont insult the class i was forced to reroll into

Otherwise you got it coming

[brisk forge]

Legendary back sucks in dng, no value

[viscid helm]

Cos its shit

[desert karma]

lol Flowi, that was a good one xD

[viscid helm]

:thinkw:

Hey

Give me back my nitro

Ty

Fucking scuffed discord

[spare cloud]

Could be worse

Imagine choosing survival hunter

[desert karma]

they look quite fun next expac

[quick talon]

👋

[shrewd oriole]

HC run iwin?

[quick talon]

When

[shrewd oriole]

now

checking hunter rn tisumi

figners crossed

[solid nova]

Its gonna be haste/crit neck

[shrewd oriole]

haste crit neck is p good

[solid nova]

I'm telling you

I know things

[quick talon]

Idk I guess I’ll just go ow

[shrewd oriole]

not bad

[solid nova]

Damn

Right stats, wrong slot

[shrewd oriole]

those are decent stats for MM tho

[solid nova]

I thought it was a neck for a second

[shrewd night]

Runebands of the WORTHY

Tom

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

🤔

[hoary copper]

you're a pro Tom

[desert karma]

so does that mean youre only better than 40% of the people in your item level bracket?

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

if you're that green

you're shit

[desert karma]

Tom, would you consider yourself an elitist? 😄

[shrewd oriole]

uh

[hoary copper]

I thought those were your logs Tom

[shrewd oriole]

nah

I'm not trash cmon BRUNO

[hoary copper]

Im not Bruno, and idk bout that

[spare cloud]

Yeah tell yourself that

[desert karma]

How do you get that ranking table btw?

[spare cloud]

Jk your logs are better than mine

[shrewd oriole]

go to warcraft logs

[hoary copper]

warcraftlogs.com

[shrewd oriole]

asked the guy to link me soemthing

he linked me this

🤔

[kindred forge]

Legit tbh

[shrewd oriole]

elisande 2 weeks ago

very g00d

[hoary copper]

I usually link AOTC KJ when I see that stuff

Sometimes people dont pay attention when they ask to link AOTC and when you do KJ they still invite

[violet yew]

It's crucial to link a very old wailing caverns achiv.

[shrewd night]

I link mythic progress regardless of what they ask for

Because I love rubbing it in

[spare cloud]

Guys if you can wait for me i might make it

Im finishing like 1h early

:(

[shrewd night]

Im leaving in an hour

[spare cloud]

Rip

[hoary copper]

Finishing early, sounds like a personal problem

[spare cloud]

Its just one hour

Doesnt matter it i finish after 3 or 4

[hoary copper]

.>

[spare cloud]

Or do you take 3 hours

[hoary copper]

Fast delete

[spare cloud]

Didnt answer my question

[hoary copper]

Sometimes?

lol

[spare cloud]

Good enough for me

Ayyy

[shrewd oriole]

had a 7M pull on garothi

but only did 2.5M

😦

rip

[spare cloud]

Average

I had that on coven the other day

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

2.5 on coven is p good

I think my 2.5 coven is like 20 on M

[spare cloud]

No i sucked

[shrewd oriole]

22 actuall

[spare cloud]

With good opener

I was too afraid of running across the room to multidot

Because it was my second pull on the boss

[shrewd oriole]

needed a few more seconds

to get vendetta vanish tisumi

ahaha

[spare cloud]

Where do you tank coven btw tom

Idk if its worth multidotting when they are like the whole room apart

And i didnt know timings i used kb a few times when they went up

Feelsbad

[marble hemlock]

should be tanked a close to each other as possible

[spare cloud]

Yeah we dont do that

[shrewd notch]

you guys put them near the middle of the room or off to one side?

[marble hemlock]

with the tanks never moving theirs, and the melee-dps thats tanking the shadow-grill moving it only when necessary due to storm

[spare cloud]

Sometimes they are like on the opposite

[marble hemlock]

yikes :/

[spare cloud]

Well our other rogue still parses orange

Guess i need to get my issues fixed

Gotta learn the timings

[marble hemlock]

[spare cloud]

Nah

Hes just good

[marble hemlock]

should be able to hit both with fok all the time

unless you have really shitty storms

[spare cloud]

Yeah thats not happening im just sure if its worth running across just for rupture

I should just swap more often and play the timings correctly

Then a orange should be easy

[marble hemlock]

you should swap at least whenever shadowstep is up

similar to doggies

just make sure you dont fuck everyone else up by placing debuffs at a bad time

[warm geode]

if they r distant, u will have a window between kb/tb when u have shadowstep up

[spare cloud]

Yeh ofc

Like i said just didnt do the obvious target swapping because i didnt know how the boss plays at all

Didnt want to screw anyone

[marble hemlock]

well, mechanics > dps

once youre feeling more comfortable with the mechanics

you will feel the urge to yell at your tanks/dps tanking the shadow-grill to move the fucking boss

[spare cloud]

Can tanks just stand in storm on mythic?

Or does it do too much dmg

[marble hemlock]

yup

[spare cloud]

Because sometimes i was just standing in the storm while boss didnt move

[marble hemlock]

the way we do it is the tanks just dont move their target except for the first amanthul adds

[spare cloud]

Yeh

[marble hemlock]

we have a dps dk tanking the shadowgrill so he has to move to safezones all the time

but since all melee are on teh shadowgrill when it happens

theres no range-issues for the other one

if you have a fixed split of dps, there may be some melee who have issues being on the firegrill

when the storm is shitty

but yeah, our melee just stick on shadow during the storm to not have those issues, or if theres a good spawn they can obviously just stay close to the fire one

[summer moon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3C2Yp13P6yYqCGaQykvaEk

[frozen pecan]

ok

[shrewd night]

ok

[marble hemlock]

ok, but only because his character is named after a good band

anyway, dont expect good parses on coven if you dont tank it so melee can cleave/multidot easily

[frozen pecan]

I like how he just came here and dumped his sim not saying anything lul

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[frozen pecan]

look at me cunts

[marble hemlock]

nah

its a silent statement

like going into the living room where your family is watching tv, letting go a silent fart, and leaving again

[quiet junco]

Hey, read the pins and guides. Ik I have to sim but what are general stat weights with t21 4pc. So ik what to aim for. Do i gotta keep my 150+% mast still? Coming back from long break.

[lost horizon]

No it was definitely an audible fart

[frozen pecan]

mastery and crit

[lost horizon]

@quiet junco mastery is still king in general for poison, Crit gets alot of value back too with 4p

[quiet junco]

Crit have a cap at 30 ish still?

[marble hemlock]

no

[frozen pecan]

cap @ 100%

[marble hemlock]

lul

[quiet junco]

Lol coo thanks

[marble hemlock]

theres gonna be a soft-cap at 65% due to the t21 2pc

but youre not gonna reach that anyway

so it might aswell not exist

[restive inlet]

I'm at 31,5% crit, and for me versatility is almost as valuable as more crit. Mastery noticeably above those two stats

[marble hemlock]

that sounds odd

[lost horizon]

There's technically also a soft cap depending on your BB traits

But just sim that shit

[quiet junco]

Ight thanks
Bout to get back to stomping twerps

[spice sorrel]

If you refresh a nightstalker empowered rupture within the pandemic window, do you still lose those last couple empowered ticks even though the leftover duration is added on?

[marble hemlock]

yes

[frozen pecan]

let empowered rupture fall off

[spice sorrel]

Ahh okay, that tip in the guide makes more sense now

[marble hemlock]

let it fall off or refresh during the last 2 seconds if you find yourself overcapping energy trying to refresh it right after it fell off

[quiet junco]

Still trying to keep sot at 100% uptine?

[spice sorrel]

Gotcha, thanks

[marble hemlock]

its more about maximizing 4pc uptime than SoT nowadays

which is pretty much the same thing anyyway

[lost horizon]

Cept rupture doesn't give 4p

[marble hemlock]

yup

and 4pc is 6sec, sot is 5

[quiet junco]

Okay

[lost horizon]

Neither get pandemic though so that's consistent

[quiet junco]

I made a weak aura for SoT, can there b a wa for the 4p?

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[spare cloud]

The sim didnt load for me

Was it good

[marble hemlock]

just change the ID to virulent poisons, change the target from "target" to "player"

[quiet junco]

Coo thanks I'll leave y'all alone now ;)

[marble hemlock]

were never alone, its just all our friends are in stealth right now

[vernal adder]

true

[summer moon]

35%crit 3%cel 166%mastery 17% versa 972 equip

not too bad?

[stone ocean]

idealy for relics you want 3x M sass and 3x M alch?

[summer moon]

i have 3 m alch 1 m asa 2 crit with muti

[marble hemlock]

pretty low mastery

for that high ilvl

way too much versa

[summer moon]

y i get today a ring crit vers 985 with socket

[marble hemlock]

the sub-dream

[summer moon]

i should sub maybe

[vestal wren]

#subclub

[lost horizon]

I prefer vers mast for sub

[shrewd night]

weird how fuu shows up after sub being mentioned

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[shrewd night]

Someone has alerts for triggerwords

[summer moon]

i need mithyc tier p

[marble hemlock]

you need more mastery

:x

[restive elm]

Yeah I have 192% mastery at 958 ilevel

[summer moon]

i tried sim with more mastery

[marble hemlock]

with those stats you may aswell try and sim EP/bleed build

[summer moon]

maye

maybe*

[shrewd night]

The trick to discord

Post so much that if you say some stupid shit its buried within 500 pages

[jovial kite]

quys

its officiel

18 weeks straight

haste gear

[vernal adder]

I've got head for 4 weeks straight

[jovial kite]

if i hit 20

[vernal adder]

from weekly chest

[jovial kite]

ill make a propability calculation for 20 weeks haste straight

ill take every hasteitem in a pool and calculate it against any other possible combo

[vernal adder]

put all haste gear on and see what you get

[jovial kite]

top logs

[shrewd oriole]

slagg

wanna come HC?

finishing off imonar

[jovial kite]

han man running with guild soon

nah**

[shrewd oriole]

oki

[shrewd night]

Are you kidding me fam

How are you on immonar if you start 15 minutes ago

😠

[arctic venture]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[shrewd oriole]

@shrewd night this is the 1st run

[shrewd night]

oh

[spare cloud]

Tom does just so much dmg

[shrewd oriole]

[vapid moth]

Hmm

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Hmm.

two fights in a row

1 poison bomb

feels bad man

2.4% and 2.6%

1 bomb

feels

bad

man

[zealous dew]

what's pb ?

[marble hemlock]

still no mdi invite

i need a hug 😦

[shrewd oriole]

rip

[manic vigil]

[marble hemlock]

gotta be fun rolling 3 malch relics

for master of shadows+pk

😃

[manic vigil]

You should play outlul

[marble hemlock]

nah

well

ill try it

just because 960 arcanogolem digit/frond is going to be fun for a while

[manic vigil]

They have always used alacrity, clearly they are intellectually superior

[marble hemlock]

theres some truth to that wisdom

then again, they were practically born into it

[manic vigil]

It's a shame spaghet is dumb af. Imo outlul should have been the aoe spec with flurry. Ah well better luck next expansion

Or the one after

[marble hemlock]

while we had to resist the urge of tb, ap and exsanguinate until weve finally seen the light

[manic vigil]

Exactly

[marble hemlock]

they never had a choice

but weve embraced alacrity

despite all the odds

so ill still consider myself purer than those outlaws

[manic vigil]

Not very hard they all stink of rum and sweat

[manic vigil]

Inb4 Don appears and smacks us down for talking shit about his beloved pirate fantasy

[marble hemlock]

i mean

i still refuse to call it outlaw

my beloved combat-spec 😦

[vernal adder]

comlaw

[manic vigil]

combat

[shrewd night]

Combat is dead

Just like your dreams

:f:

[marble hemlock]

its still alive though

[manic vigil]

[marble hemlock]

it still has snd

its builder is still SS

so not much has changed

[shrewd night]

IF IT AINT SINISTER STRIKE, IT AINT COMBAT

O

K

?

[zealous dew]

ss was buffed

[manic vigil]

[marble hemlock]

id say

if it doesnt have bandits guile, its not combat 😦

bandits guile was amazing

[vernal adder]

wait for red then ks

[marble hemlock]

delay for red so it lines up with cds/trinket procs

[drifting cloud]

red on iskar adds 🍍

[teal kindle]

Dagger mh

[cerulean aspen]

combat was fun but not very interesting from a class fantasy perspective

[marble hemlock]

what even is

class fantasy?

[vernal adder]

subtlety should be assassination in that case

[marble hemlock]

youd assume so, yes

who assassinates their target with slow damage over time and long ramp-up?

[vernal adder]

Putin

[marble hemlock]

nah

well

litvinenko took what, like a month?

guess youre right

so our class fantasy is putin

[cerulean aspen]

sin should be named

torture

[marble hemlock]

then why cant i ride a horse, shirtless?

[vernal adder]

good q

[turbid escarp]

is rule of thumb to always Toxic Blade before Kingsbane if both are off CD?

[keen inlet]

fwiw I never wanted pirate to be the only theme of outlaw

I always played my rogue as a desert brigand type

used to hang out in tanaris in vanilla/bc and ambush people

[marble hemlock]

playing combat and ambushing people

thats oldschool

when combat-dagger was best pve spec

[vernal adder]

or 2 maces

[marble hemlock]

only as a dwarf :<

or wait, think humans had mace spec too

[vernal adder]

just stack armor pen

[marble hemlock]

either way, combat couldve gone a bunch of different ways, but they tried to shoehorn that pirate-theme in there as much as possible

which makes me sad

[keen inlet]

to be perfectly honest

I didn't raid rogue in vanilla--I raided holy buffadin

I started rogue in bc and raided then

but until kara I wasn't min-maxing my toon, and I only started camping Elitist Jerks for 'theorycrafting' in the later tiers

[lone junco]

Cat riding a horse, shirtless. @marble hemlock as requested.

[keen inlet]

I just assumed my performance was good because I was top dps in my raids while staying just-under alttank's aggro

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm u there

[lone junco]

@keen inlet agro isnt a thing, but not dying is key.

[keen inlet]

It was in BC

salv on cd, feint on cd for agg reduction, vanish wasn't a dps cooldown it was a threat-wipe

etc

[shrewd night]

Wait for three sunders ya ducks

[keen inlet]

yup

christ that sucked

I hated that

and sure enough by the execute phase I'd go from 0 agg right back up to struggling to stay under the offtank, who was struggling to stay above, etc

it was a delicate dance...different era

all this to say

[dreamy plover]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[keen inlet]

I could've been bin. I have no idea. /shrug

[scarlet mantle]

I miss vanish to avoid dying in raid prog

[marble hemlock]

thanks noobe

[vapid moth]

I like the idea of having aggro be an actual thing to follow

[viscid helm]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @viscid helm has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[vapid moth]

Hehe

[manic vigil]

[vapid moth]

Do it again flowi

You won't

[marble hemlock]

felmyst aggro on pull was the greatest

[vapid moth]

No balls

[viscid helm]

does it mute me next?

what a shit bot

[manic vigil]

Let's find out

[vernal adder]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @vernal adder has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[keen inlet]

hmm

[shrewd night]

Dafuq is this

[keen inlet]

gonna discuss that with the other mods

unsure if that's intended

[manic vigil]

That's new isn't it

[viscid helm]

ye im not so sure about this bot

[keen inlet]

Well the bots have been upgraded

but

[manic vigil]

Where does it draw the line? 4 or 5

[viscid helm]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @viscid helm has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[viscid helm]

doesnt seem to mute

[manic vigil]

[shrewd night]

Test it again

[vernal adder]

[viscid helm]

we safe boys

[manic vigil]

Your fearless bastard

[shrewd night]

You wont

No balls

[viscid helm]

3 strikes ehh?

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @viscid helm has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[shrewd night]

MonkaS

[wild ledge]

Get warned, again

[vernal adder]

[manic vigil]

[shrewd night]

He aint typing

Ehehehehe

[vernal adder]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @vernal adder has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[shrewd night]

Three strikes it is

[vernal adder]

ok 4

good to know

[vapid moth]

Lmao

He has the balls I guess. Can't disrespect him anymore

[manic vigil]

Flowi gave his life... For science

[shrewd oriole]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @shrewd oriole has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[shrewd oriole]

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @shrewd oriole has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[manic vigil]

Don save flowi

[steep obsidian]

not a bro

[manic vigil]

Uhoh

[shrewd night]

💯 💯 💯

[shrewd oriole]

doing heroic btw

[vernal adder]

its 4 dupes

[shrewd oriole]

idk why y'all say u cant pug

easy pug

[manic vigil]

#freeflowi

[gilded lark]

Inb4 some russian gets muted for saying

))))

[manic vigil]

[gilded lark]

Or brazilians going

Jajajajaja

Hm

Nvm then

[solid nova]

What have i missed

Where have all these warnings come from 😮

[lone junco]

bot said dont do that

they did that

[gilded lark]

New modding tools because the mods have it so hard here

😂

[marble hemlock]

does it mute me when i explain our aoe rotation on 20+ mob packs?

fok fok fok fok fok fok fok

guess not

[gilded lark]

There's only fucking 12 of you. Pick it up

[solid nova]

Nearly 1 per active contributor 😉

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole ran shoulder bracer on garothi hoping for solid memes.

[spare cloud]

You need to say the same thing 7 times

We figured that out before

[manic vigil]

[lone junco]

open solid, but limp on the rest. I would roast my own log.

[vernal adder]

and 4 emotes

[gilded lark]

He said fok 7 times

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

Idk if space counts

I think its about emotes

Havent seen that yet

[gilded lark]

Tom said fuck with spaces and got warned

[spare cloud]

Toxic

How many warnings before youre banned?

[vernal adder]

3

[manic vigil]

How does one fuck with spaces tho

[marble hemlock]

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @marble hemlock has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[marble hemlock]

yikes

[gilded lark]

Lmao

[lone junco]

I didnt fall asleep here, but was prob just a function of hands.

[gilded lark]

Warned for explaining aoe rotation

4head

[spare cloud]

Rip i already have one warning

[vernal adder]

I got 2

[spare cloud]

Hehexd

[manic vigil]

Flowi died for us

[vernal adder]

Flowi is diededed

[manic vigil]

And no one cares

[gilded lark]

Not just gonna be wewlads banned now. This bot is gonna ban everyone

[manic vigil]

[lone junco]

yeah no.

[gilded lark]

Like youll be memeing and forget it exists, be on your 2nd warning

[spare cloud]

Bot has too much power

[gilded lark]

Boom. Banned

[solid nova]

Flowi got banned for 3 warnings on spam?

[gilded lark]

Great system. 10/10

[solid nova]

Rip 😦

[manic vigil]

There was no message,nothing. Flowi just stopped typing

I'm scared

[solid nova]

@viscid helm LIVE

[manic vigil]

[gilded lark]

Mods than dont even play the game now will be the only ones left to explain shit

Wew

[marble hemlock]

this is exactly what elon musk was talking about

[solid nova]

Muted rank 😦

[manic vigil]

The bot killed him

[spare cloud]

Use the alacrity summon

Oh wait cant

Ull get warned

[marble hemlock]

now that hawking is dead, the bots are slowly taking over

[manic vigil]

#FREEFLOWI

[gilded lark]

I wonder if theres a warning system for spamming messages

Not all in one msg but a bunch in a row

[solid nova]

What if i just type really fast

[spare cloud]

Why dont you try it

Take a hit for the team

Go

[gilded lark]

Because im a kind boy and i don't spam

[marble hemlock]

so far the AI seems to only be bothered by spamming the same message

[lone junco]

then dont?

or be mute

[marble hemlock]

over and over and over and over again

[solid nova]

It'll probs have word filters

[spare cloud]

Idk if it does yet

[gilded lark]

Can it mute noobe

Just because

[spare cloud]

Notter warned me for profanity before

Not bot

[manic vigil]

Bots enforcing rules we don't even know

What is this

[marble hemlock]

wait

noobe isnt a bot?

[spare cloud]

Yeah hes like the only one with tht red color

[gilded lark]

Afaik bots dont have mental disabilities so no

[marble hemlock]

just look at brobots avatar

[hoary copper]

We have rules here?

[marble hemlock]

it looks so innocent

[lone junco]

this is where I post a log clip of random peaks

[marble hemlock]

and cheeky at the same time

[gilded lark]

We do now

[marble hemlock]

he knows he wants to ban us

[vernal adder]

logs

[shrewd oriole]

wtf

[spare cloud]

Those are some small peaks

[shrewd oriole]

the bot mutes u

[gilded lark]

Heroic logs

Hehe xd

[shrewd oriole]

this this this this

[marble hemlock]

papa noobe

explain to me

[shrewd oriole]

this this this this this

[marble hemlock]

why that dude who stole #1 coven log from me

[hoary copper]

Btw Noobe, I used my druid healer. I remember why I dont use it and like pally and disc better

[shrewd oriole]

this this this this thisthis this this this this

this this this this thisthis this this this thisthis this this this this

[marble hemlock]

has 2.4mil average envenom, while i have 1.6mil

[gilded lark]

Tom is about to die

[shrewd oriole]

doesnt work

[chrome tusk]

Alright, @shrewd oriole has been warned because 'Duplicated text'.

[vernal adder]

lol

[spare cloud]

Hahaha

[gilded lark]

Rip

[hoary copper]

Muted

[vernal adder]

profanity filter

[hoary copper]

BWHAHA

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/zMqK2/bf8cc561b3.png

gj

[gilded lark]

Nah it wasnt for profanity

[lost horizon]

Bye Tom 👋

[spare cloud]

Fuck man i started laughing like a r in the train

[gilded lark]

@chrome tusk hey

Didnt respond

[vernal adder]

@chrome tusk ♿

[spare cloud]

Tom took a hit for the team

[gilded lark]

Lul

[spare cloud]

He shall be remembered

[gilded lark]

For the team? Ok

[marble hemlock]

whos tom?

[spare cloud]

Idk

[gilded lark]

Think we all knew it'd mute for spam

Wonder if it at least pms you a timeline

[hoary copper]

We knew Tom would get muted soon, guess it had to be the bot

[gilded lark]

Hes been muted before lol

[spare cloud]

Well we still dont know when it mutes text spam

Tom gave us no new info

Nice.

[keen inlet]

Well

that made it easy

I didn't even have to do anything

[hoary copper]

It's been a few days since he's been muted tho

[gilded lark]

Tbh if you havent been muted do you really exist

I dont think so

[manic vigil]

I'm a good boi

[spare cloud]

The emote spam

[manic vigil]

So many reactions and not a single spoon

[hoary copper]

Apparently there's a reaction limit

[spare cloud]

Soon to be emote blocked

[gilded lark]

Yes there is

[manic vigil]

[gilded lark]

Who is bruen anyway

[manic vigil]

Stop bully broadsides

[shrewd night]

Tom, add me daddy why havent you yet

[hoary copper]

Do you even go here?

[spare cloud]

Bruen claims to be a girl

[manic vigil]

[lone junco]

@marble hemlock shoulder/bracer vs bracer/boot is not easy to compare. Rip your #1 tho

[hoary copper]

I dont think I ever did?

[vapid moth]

Broad now that mythic is open to everyone. You wanna Carry me?

[spare cloud]

Yes you said you and your boyfriend

[gilded lark]

Do i even go here?

The fuck

[spare cloud]

Maybe you are homosexual

[manic vigil]

Toph, the orthodox Christian still has problems adjusting to homosexuality

[spare cloud]

Sorry

[hoary copper]

Pretty sure I said that a long time ago

keep up Toph

[gilded lark]

Long time ago

Been here a day

[spare cloud]

I just dont assume it as the norm

[gilded lark]

😂

[spare cloud]

I have a decent memory

[hoary copper]

I've been here month(s?), where have you been?

[gilded lark]

Here for over a year

Have never seen you before.

[hoary copper]

Obviously not if you think its my first day

[shrewd night]

@keen inlet unmute dad pls 😢

[keen inlet]

Bruen's been around Broad

and likewise

[gilded lark]

@keen inlet apparently I'm new here lmao

[manic vigil]

Shut up broadsides

[vapid moth]

Bruens been here a month. I can testify

You just haven't realized cause he hasnt belittled anyone like I have

[gilded lark]

Yeah but you've barely played the game a month

[manic vigil]

Bruen is more around than broad lately

[keen inlet]

Tom

[marble hemlock]

yeah @lone junco

[manic vigil]

Ofc broad is muted a lot

[keen inlet]

Stop spamming emojis.

[gilded lark]

So who can trust you

[marble hemlock]

its mostly me using old 2pc on coven, while the current #1 doesnt

[shrewd night]

[gilded lark]

I havent been muted in a few weeks 🤔

[vapid moth]

Ooooh Tom got banned. Nice

[marble hemlock]

and his envenom damage is so much higher, idk why

[manic vigil]

[marble hemlock]

930 shoulders, 955 gloves

[gilded lark]

What are the crit %s

[vapid moth]

Nice gloves

[gilded lark]

For env

[marble hemlock]

39 vs 44

[gilded lark]

Explains part of it

[marble hemlock]

yup

still

2.4mil average envenom vs my 1.67m

[gilded lark]

Perhaps they had more in tb windows

[marble hemlock]

yeah, guess it comes down to conc uptime and crits during tb

[gilded lark]

If the 5% more crits were during tb windows... and yeah, conc

[lone junco]

@marble hemlock i mean, ofc his env avg is going to be higher with 4 shoulder rounds in the fight.

wasnt sure if you were trolling or not, but i can look at it.

[marble hemlock]

youd expect a bigger envenom critchance difference then

[cold spoke]

@keen inlet

[gilded lark]

^

[cold spoke]

😉

[gilded lark]

But i suppose if he had tb up during the vanishes

[spare cloud]

Ban xaethron pls

[marble hemlock]

but yeah, he had better conc uptime too, in the end i dont really care all that much, just was weird to see his envenom be so much higher than mine 😦

[gilded lark]

Ban toph

[spare cloud]

He is not following the rules

Like i do

[vernal adder]

mute broadsides

[gilded lark]

Never

[vernal adder]

mute everyone

[spare cloud]

He literally gives wrong information

[gilded lark]

Kick ramlu

Gently

[vernal adder]

[marble hemlock]

he was also playing nightstalker while i was running subt

[spare cloud]

Not even a troll or smht

[marble hemlock]

guess the combination of those things makes up the difference

[gilded lark]

Yeah

Im not looking at the logs so i only have the info you've said but ns envs help too

[marble hemlock]

guess ill have to tryhard on coven again this week 😄

[gilded lark]

But yeah at first glance its like wtf

[cold spoke]

i wish bosses Didn’t respawn this week

one could pray

[gilded lark]

Lol

No bosses respawn until pre patch

[spare cloud]

Rip

[vapid moth]

Toph if you're gonna hop on my dick please do me a favor and caress my balls as well

[cold spoke]

Theyre dead so

[vapid moth]

I enjoy that

[gilded lark]

Tbf he wasnt wrong xar

Xae*

[cold spoke]

Poutine

[gilded lark]

Alot of your info has me just sitting here like.. ok.

Not even gonna put in the time to correct this

[spare cloud]

What

[vapid moth]

Best way to be corrected is by spreading wrong info 🤷🏾‍♂️

[marble hemlock]

not even sure if its worth running 2+4 tierset on coven anymore

[cold spoke]

Several people are typing

[gilded lark]

Mostly because prog is over so who gives a shit anymore :D

[vernal adder]

ye lets look at irrelevant logs for the 1000th time, fun right

[spare cloud]

On mobile blocked messages are a lot less noticeble

Feelsgood

[gilded lark]

Blocking people in 2018

[cold spoke]

@gilded lark maybe some people prog coven

[spare cloud]

Idk for example when i joined he said open with mutilate

[vapid moth]

Lmai