assassination

[lone junco]

I dps between, keeps shock ready for snipes

[solid nova]

But healing, sounds like high blood pressure

[lone junco]

healing in pvp was the worst. non stop chain stuns

gotta have cool blood for that shit.

[hoary copper]

I need a better sea star, didnt get lucky last night. That rogue with the 950 t20 helm tho

[solid nova]

950 t20 helm sounds like xmas tbh

[hoary copper]

yea we were all like holy crap

[zealous dew]

950 haste helm 😄

[lone junco]

t20 hat is haste

lol rip

[solid nova]

He was sub

[lone junco]

gimme 950 shoulder/glove

[manic vigil]

[hoary copper]

"With maintenance in each region, Mythic difficulty Antorus, the Burning Throne is now available for cross realm groups."

[manic vigil]

[vernal adder]

time to pug mythic argus

[manic vigil]

[drifting cloud]

now you can wipe on garothi xrealm aswell!

[shrewd oriole]

" Antorus, the Burning Throne is available for cross-realm groups in Mythic difficulty"

poggers

[hoary copper]

"Requires 985 aotc to pug"

[manic vigil]

Nah

Need CE

[hoary copper]

CE?

[manic vigil]

[hoary copper]

oh nvm

[manic vigil]

Titanslayer

[zealous dew]

Collector's Edition

[manic vigil]

Yes

[hoary copper]

I had a Tom moment

[solid nova]

Unfortunate

[vernal adder]

🇺🇸

[zealous dew]

got a titanslayer into a m15 last night, he died to every kind of shit

was fun

[manic vigil]

Bought it

Or was drunk af

[vernal adder]

does raiding make you good in m+?

[manic vigil]

Not really no

[vernal adder]

there you go

[zealous dew]

can't even dodge shit, carried af

[solid nova]

I've got my ready for raiding achievement

Bliz said i can go

[manic vigil]

Flowi has zero experience and could still ace it

Finnish overlord

[zealous dew]

flowithree is close to 110 ?

[solid nova]

Flowithree was level 1 yesterday

Flowithree is level 1 today also

😦

[manic vigil]

[solid nova]

I dont think i could level 3 rogues from lvl 1 without boosting tbh

[zealous dew]

noooooo

by the way, Selling CE 12m gold

[shrewd oriole]

p expensive

I've seen several sub 10 already

💸

[echo estuary]

thats why Blizzard made it unbearable 😃

[zealous dew]

xrealm ?

[drifting cloud]

oh yeah you can buy shit xrealm now

[shrewd oriole]

nah kazzak only

[zealous dew]

yeah but now xrealm for low pop servers

big money

[shrewd oriole]

true

[vernal adder]

wtb argus m kill, I can give you a pat on the back

[drifting cloud]

then its legit cheaper to double transfer

thats only what like 1.2mil

[hoary copper]

Our realm doesnt even have a MKJ kill so there is that

[solid nova]

Ghost town

[shrewd oriole]

yeah, legit cheaper to server xfer to kazzak and buy a boost there

u can charge more on cheaper services like m+ boosts but on big shit people usually have a standard price

or €€€€

[solid nova]

£££ *

[echo estuary]

₽₽₽*

[hoary copper]

$$$$

[echo estuary]

= rubles btw

[shrewd oriole]

people buying boosts are from arab countries so it's more like $$$ tbh

[solid nova]

Or if it is Rubles

You'll need alot more

[vernal adder]

yen

[zealous dew]

*70 ?

[hoary copper]

Pesos?

[strange python]

talking about selling m+ boosts and shit?

[solid nova]

Im still amazed CE is selling for that much gold

[plain thistle]

poison knives 970 blood relic 🤔

[strange python]

960 envenom blood relic :haHA:

[drifting cloud]

what are the affixes?

[strange python]

sanguine volcanic

push week

[solid nova]

Fort

[vernal adder]

lets see if I can manage to do a +15 this week

cancer affixes

[solid nova]

Whats stopping you fam?

They're easy af affixes

[shrewd oriole]

what

[manic vigil]

Oh yeah faceroll affixes inc

[plain thistle]

thats like the easiest combo possible

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

did u just call sanguine volcanic cancer affixes

sang volc is the BEST

[vernal adder]

[shrewd oriole]

time for my weekly attempt at getting some tf avatar shoulders

😦

any1 wants to come

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole sang volc fort. time for my 20upper.

[shrewd oriole]

got some friends wanting to sell some score

gonna be a good week

[vernal adder]

what is the point thou?

[manic vigil]

Good luck with those shoulders tom

Bring me some

Point of what @vernal adder

[vernal adder]

getting a really high score in m+ anymore

[lone junco]

high keys on easy weeks? more loot per box.

[manic vigil]

I don't get it either

[lone junco]

or just goal of keys

[clear harbor]

Does anyone have a pawn string for master poisoner/toxic blade build? I run a Sim to get one and I get weird stat weights

[manic vigil]

Especially if bought

[solid nova]

Just do a 16 so you key is a 15 next week

Rinse and repeat

Easy life

Easy loot

[lone junco]

@clear harbor just stack mastery crit. and if you have low ilvl, no tier, and shit relics, your weights can start out wonky

@manic vigil bought is prob just fast mode for a 960 box for an alt.

My neck, ring ring are from box. so Im a welfare champ.

[clear harbor]

Alright. Thanks, my guy

[manic vigil]

But he said he sells score. So I assume people just want a high score to brag (after buying it )

Or to get into pugs

[steep obsidian]

lol 960 cloak cd relic with pk rupture crit and sprint cd in the crucible

this game is such a troll

[vernal adder]

pk is bugged again btw, equip it

[steep obsidian]

even if it was i wouldnt

[lone junco]

lol no

rip bis relics

cast plenty in M+. so yay there. but no way would I dump Mass/malch

[steep obsidian]

i have 7 ma 7 malch fuck farming that again

[lone junco]

ye.

I think I have a bb/malch/malch.

ill take it

[drifting cloud]

its necrotic btw

did you even check your keys

thats why I asked they changed it 😄

[night vale]

guys, quick question, if I have rupture and Evenom buff about to run out, which one should i refresh?

I guess i refresh rupture? unless its during KB then refresh Envenom?

Obviously ideal to not be in that position tho

[steep obsidian]

you swear loudly at fucking up and rupture

maybe not during kingsbane though

[exotic glen]

@shrewd night any news on guild situation?

[lone junco]

@night vale is funny, but if rupture drops during kb, ill , 1,2,3,4cp rupture.

[shrewd oriole]

@drifting cloud wait waht is it really necrotic?

[lone junco]

but 100% env is important.

[night vale]

@lone junco alright, noticed it happens to me rarely but at times i have just done a 2cp rupture just as a bandaid fix, then cried myself to sleep

[lone junco]

a 1cp env however is garbage

if it were the very last tick of KB, you want a stong SoT.

so we are talking 4/5cp

but if you derp and drop rupture 2 sec into kb, just re apply

for reference, I ran a full APL of finish at 3cp for env, and rupture and it was a minor drop. I bet if it were 4/5 env and 3 ruptures it would be even less of a drop

[steep obsidian]

you are also putting up a shitty sot with that 1 cp rupture i don't think anyone bothers tosim bad play 😛

i always just swear loudly and put up a 4 cp one :\

[lone junco]

you replace with a full env right after.

[steep obsidian]

yeh

[lone junco]

if you mut rupture, youll have 2/3/4.

anyway. apl isnt designed for mistakes.

but 3cp isnt the end of the world

[steep obsidian]

fo sho

[lone junco]

@steep obsidian tbh, EP is more important for me to clip than env, so I am more apt to >=1 than a Mp spec anyway.

but with fat mut crit, we have plenty of cps to go around

[steep obsidian]

i dont have that much crit in my gear rn

not really by choice

i tested alacrity ep in my gear and it felt better even though it sims lower 😛

[lone junco]

with 7/7 its going to be pretty good

[steep obsidian]

iyeh

its only a little bit behind

[lone junco]

it "feels" like it is missing burst

I dont like auto attack dp damage

[steep obsidian]

i should probaly just play it on fights where you dont drop alac

[lone junco]

but I play bleed for the peaks anyway

[steep obsidian]

probalby play with boots bracers for something different a bit this week even though shoulder bombs are addictive

and that build

[lone junco]

i will say, I ran ep anti alac for argus, and sure as shit the avg was like 2m. really flat, really high.

clip clip clip clip clip

if you are looking for something diff, try the insigboot.

Ep/Vig/Tb

[spare cloud]

Yeh its very consistent

And fluid

[lone junco]

at this point in farm, warriors and other executes are stealing our bracer time

[manic vigil]

I tried ep alacrity on Argus normal pug once

Didn't like it

[steep obsidian]

im not doing mythic so i could do wahtever the heck i want to and it wouldnt matter

other then my friends trollin me

[manic vigil]

It's just 70 to 90k less dps

[spare cloud]

Doesnt matter in mythic anymore as well

[manic vigil]

Which drops me below 2mil

[lone junco]

according to the analyzer , my bracers provide ME like 6%

ive seen insig shadow hit at the 5-6% range.

specifically with EP.

[spare cloud]

Also crit

[lone junco]

so we are in the wash zone from bracer to insig. (as bleed)

[spare cloud]

Insane crit

[lone junco]

my box giveth, so i have good crit rings.

[spare cloud]

I dont

[manic vigil]

Right, insignia

I always forget to resim it

Bit I doubt it's good for me

My gear is still crap

[solid nova]

I was messing around with my sims and insig is simming pretty high for me

[steep obsidian]

im guessing if crit is your best stat in sims insig is prolly gonna be pretty good

that is a lotta crit

[spare cloud]

I tried it once in hc

Did like 2,3 mil on garothu

[steep obsidian]

does weapon ilvl actually go up a bit in value with insignia?

i guess it would

[spare cloud]

With like 4% pb

And i played with bracers instead of boots

[lone junco]

EP pushes the Bleed, EP pushes the shadow hit. its all crit based.

[spare cloud]

Probably couldve gotten another vendetta

[lone junco]

so thats why we are seeing 54crit 48m 46v

[spare cloud]

And vendetta is stronger for ep than the poison and bleed dmg

Probably

[lone junco]

much.

and 3v

[spare cloud]

I dont have that sadly

The build can be pretty insane though

[lone junco]

just borrow Tyra for farm

zing

[spare cloud]

Yeah tyra has like no gear at all

But im getting there

My pantheon is 1000 soon

[lone junco]

at least ep insig doesnt NEEED 3v. cause Im stuck if i want to exang

ah. mine has been 1000 for like 5?weeks

[spare cloud]

And when were horde ima grind for a high eoc

And a gnawed thumb ring

[lone junco]

you can borrow my 960 thumb. Im on hpal for a few weeks

[spare cloud]

Borrow items system

Would be insane

[lone junco]

EQ was nothing bound

no ilvl

[solid nova]

Abused to fuck*

[lone junco]

so you could give a . . . Aggramar 2hr to a lvl 1 warrior

[plucky zenith]

Quick question - Specter at 915 or Chaos Talisman at 910 with socket?

[lone junco]

BONK

and since nothing bound, you would pass it along to alts forever

that shit was $$ farm

@plucky zenith https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/gear

[steep obsidian]

sim it alex or look at the chart in the pins somewhere

sim best

[solid nova]

For gear comparisons, simming it is always best

[steep obsidian]

is chaos talisman the one that stacks agi?

[lone junco]

TLDR chaos talisman is garbage

[solid nova]

And takes 2mins tops

[lone junco]

but yeah, get the Simulationcraft addon.

its the socket that might change the value

a 200crit there would not suck

base haste + agi stack.

🤢

[steep obsidian]

lol i got the max mana neck on my ret paladin

at elast its decent stats 😛

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole check this guild name:

🍑 🍆

[vernal adder]

[manic vigil]

Noobe show me your thumb ring

[lone junco]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/thrall/nooberog

[wise frigate]

[hoary copper]

"thumb ring"

[lone junco]

lol at the prydaz/ bracer exang

[manic vigil]

Fuck me, I need one of those

[lone junco]

it lines up with every other vanish as a shoulder bracer.

open and 4min.

[manic vigil]

@hoary copper is that something dirty I'm unaware of?

[lone junco]

APL is dumb and uses it cold at 3min

[manic vigil]

The stats alone are sexy af tho

[hoary copper]

Im a good boi, I would never make anything dirty 👼

[manic vigil]

Boring

[lone junco]

the red ring is my fav

[manic vigil]

Big dick crit

[lone junco]

thumb doesnt buff bleed stuff, but it is nice

[manic vigil]

But versa

[vernal adder]

versa 3rd best stat

[lone junco]

its funny. my neck is like 935 socket barb. beats a hand full of 950-960 necks i have

[manic vigil]

My rings are shite

[lone junco]

yeah. vers is like 2pts below mastery

[manic vigil]

Well I got the argus one and the other is from months ago m+ I think

[lone junco]

my 955 argus ring is in the bags. lonly except for my M+ mastery stack.

[steep obsidian]

i have the argus one 965 socketed

decent roll there

my other ring has haste on it :

but its 975 heavy mastery

so cant get rid of

best i have with crit is 945 kinga ring which is a fair bit worse

[lone junco]

oy

[steep obsidian]

i have decent luck with tf but trade half of them away

my druid buddy loves me coz i gave him a 980 argus belt with avoidance

[lone junco]

I started stacking crit back at KJ cause I saw 👀 weak at 54%. gave me a boner

[steep obsidian]

i have to deal with personal loot crap 😛

[manic vigil]

Crit is sexy af tbh

Even as poison boi

I'll probably settle for more bb tho

[lone junco]

dem back to back to back 4cps.

[manic vigil]

Yeah

[steep obsidian]

yeh that is nice

[manic vigil]

I'm at 7malch 5bb 6ma atm. Not sure how to balance it exactly yet

[steep obsidian]

i should probaly drop just drop the 2 set mastery proc the boots i have are kinda poopy

[manic vigil]

I mostly play no mantle so it's fine for now

[steep obsidian]

but it still a little ahead

[manic vigil]

Oh you have the flowi set?

[lone junco]

nvm 6ma

[manic vigil]

Almost read it

Almost

[lone junco]

if you have 3malch 3bb you can slide into the bracer boot. and align tbkb at every other vendetta.

[steep obsidian]

yeah i have the gloves 985 and boots 940

[manic vigil]

I was wondering if I should aim for that

[steep obsidian]

was praying for boots from cache every week 😛

[lone junco]

simple rotation but few people have the 0V and massive crit

[manic vigil]

Or go 7ma and ditch some malch

[steep obsidian]

need to run more arcways

[manic vigil]

Sounds good actually

[lone junco]

you delay TB until KB.

[manic vigil]

Yeah I remember that I think

[lone junco]

angelcry is the only one ive seen do it, but hes got really nice gear.

and only low mythic so he didnt make a scene.

still a prophet imo

2.8m garothi is real deal without shoulders.

[steep obsidian]

how much pb?

[lone junco]

12

everyone else around him was like 18-20

[steep obsidian]

yeh

[lone junco]

very few have the 0vendetta tho

[steep obsidian]

i wish i could get perfect kill times on every boss 😛

half the time we have pugs so im not evne sure if i should delay a vanish or not 😛

but meh whatever

[manic vigil]

I haven't parsed in a while. Mythic is still kinda new /prog and I don't do much hc lately

I don't regret starting mythic tho. I know it's laughably late but gotta start at some point right

[steep obsidian]

you wont get good mtyhic parses if you progging

well you might on some but

[manic vigil]

Yeah I'm also usually on bitch duty

[steep obsidian]

rogues get bitch jobs on a few fights

[manic vigil]

Like pk

[burnt meadow]

Sorry to interrupt, enjoying the conversation, but i'm hoping for an answer.. lol

[lone junco]

we are just going to pack it up for 6months. no mythic for me

@burnt meadow was there a q?

[manic vigil]

@burnt meadow shoot

[lone junco]

🔫

[burnt meadow]

I consistently sim with boots/shoulders highest dps

but I see everybody wearing bracers

[lone junco]

ok

well. what is "highest"

[burnt meadow]

is there a more accurate SIM I should be doing with raidbots?

[lone junco]

like 1%?

[burnt meadow]

or am I just in a weird gear situation

[manic vigil]

Tell us the margin yeah

[lone junco]

I base most of my numbers on that setup

[manic vigil]

Then interpret execute vs boots in a real environment

[lone junco]

right. bracers gain value with more dead dps in raid. bracers lose value with more execute warriors in raid.

[solid nova]

@burnt meadow https://gyazo.com/107cbbc07539d6f7734f147e5a181e17

http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

They've always been close

[lone junco]

i mean they are great for what they are, but they are not your gear.

[solid nova]

Too lazy to cut the hero damage part out

Ive had various sims throughout my gear changes that have swapped boots and wrists around

Also as the kills are getting quicker my bracers are losing value

[lone junco]

@burnt meadow ok. TLDR, Boots are bad on short fights. If you gain 3/4 of an extra vendetta, they are wasted. Bracers are bad with too many executes in the raid, and no dead people.

so people tend to play bracer for progress, and other combos for farm. but it depends higley on your gear.

[steep obsidian]

if you are doing prog and the hardest part of the fight is sub 35 id use bracers regardless of what any sim said its all situational like those other guys said

[solid nova]

^

[keen inlet]

good rule of thumb is "if you have to ask, bracers are probably better for you"

[burnt meadow]

sorry, multitasking at work haha

[lone junco]

shoulder bracers are a gambling spec, praying for bombs during bracer window vanish.

[keen inlet]

bracers will be useful. Boots won't, necessarily.

but if they are, they are more useful

[lone junco]

I do bracer boot. 👌

[keen inlet]

if that makes sense.

[burnt meadow]

so like, on kin'garoth, boots vs bracers gives you an extra vendetta on boss each rotation while still allowing you to use on the add

are bracers still better than boots there?

[gilded oasis]

Im always praying for pbs.. Class fantasy and all

[solid nova]

The only thing i pray to is RNGesus to grant me PB procs

And a safe journey to all my food delivery people

[lone junco]

@burnt meadow Kingo. is special

Shoulder aligns with each add. so vanish is very valuable. and each add has an execute.

so shoulder bracer is >>>

[autumn trench]

Shoulders still offer on demand burst

[burnt meadow]

execute happens with the least vulnerability too though

so bracerse only ocme up

[lone junco]

when you have more than one mob, bracers take off

[burnt meadow]

as the add is less vulnerable

[lone junco]

bracers are king on coven, with double dot.

run some 2t if you want.

sims.

( once you get into the orange parses, you can pick and play what works best)

guides are to get you from grey to purp

[steep obsidian]

how diff are the timings on mythic kinga? is it the same?

[lone junco]

since adds push boss damage, all prio is on the vuln adds

[burnt meadow]

"run some 2t if you want" - you mean simming i assume?

[steep obsidian]

2 targets

[burnt meadow]

gotcha

[lone junco]

2 Target patchwork sims, will help show you differences.

[burnt meadow]

so, thoeretically, i felt that having the extra vendettas inbetween mobs on kingo

[lone junco]

Thats what I do as exang. Vendetta/exang boss. then add then boss then add

[burnt meadow]

was better than having bracer effect on adds that are less vulnerable (since bracers kick in towards the end of their vulnerability)

[lone junco]

but its nothing compared to a shoulder vanish on each add.

[burnt meadow]

is that just inaccurate thinking?

shoulders def would get used, no argument there

[lone junco]

ill find some samples.

[burnt meadow]

I guess it's the value of bracers against minor vuln versus the value of an extra vendetta at 0 vuln

just feelsbadman holding vendettas lol

[lone junco]

6.67% from bracer is pretty good

[steep obsidian]

oh that part of wowanalyser is cool

[lone junco]

I think you use TB/KB at open and between adds as well.

the SSF summary is cool too

[burnt meadow]

right, tb/kb come up enough to use on both

[steep obsidian]

i didnt even know that was a thing

[burnt meadow]

should you ALWAYS be delaying tb for kb?

[vernal adder]

no

[burnt meadow]

should you be TB'ing pre-kb?

you want to do it 5 sec after kb, ideally, right?

so i guess you just delay the KB until you have 5 sec left on TB's cd, nvm

[manic vigil]

[dense quest]

I'd wait for my vanish and tb into env spams right at add execute

vendetta and kb should still be up

[burnt meadow]

Sure, I get that part

you want everything up for the adds

i'm just trying to find explanations for when I should be using bracers instead of boots

[burnt meadow]

because raidbot sims just never tell me to use boots lol

[dense quest]

raidbots doesnt know about adds

[burnt meadow]

situations like coven where you can double dot, makes total sense

Right, but even on ST fights like vari

[dense quest]

ok but you can also think about it

[burnt meadow]

or maybe imonar is a better example

[dense quest]

kingo its ideal since at execute phase you do a lot of damage

[burnt meadow]

imonar is pure ST, no gimmicks related to dps right

[dense quest]

no one will tell you exactly what to do you have to think

[burnt meadow]

so you'd think that a ST sim would be accurate

[lone junco]

@burnt meadow very specifically for Kingo, i expect that you would sit on a very close tb, kb for the add.

[burnt meadow]

but the top 100 parses use 100% bracers

[lone junco]

@plain thistle very specifically for Kingo, i expect that you would sit on a very close tb, kb and hold for the add.

Is that right?

[dense quest]

I dont know dude top parses also have top pbombs

[broken fiber]

Hey guys quick rogue quesiton. I feel like my poison bomb never procs. If i put it on my bars will that increase the chance? ty.

[burnt meadow]

Yeah, I get that part and it makes sense

[gilded oasis]

@broken fiber Y e s

[burnt meadow]

lol

[dense quest]

trying to replicate something rng is not feasable

[lone junco]

@burnt meadow remember shoulder/bracer is a lower average, higher max. so you will see high performance, but you may not get high performance.

[solid nova]

@broken fiber What.

Its rng based

[steep obsidian]

hes an idiot

and trolling

[lone junco]

@broken fiber yeah, #PBonCD

[broken fiber]

[burnt meadow]

ok, that part makes more sense

[steep obsidian]

❤ sleazy

[burnt meadow]

so you're basically just playing the slot machine sub-30% even harder for pb procs

when you're rolling bracers instead of boots

and if you want pure consistency, you go boots

[wise frigate]

🎣

[burnt meadow]

is that a fair assessment?

[dense quest]

well your other gear and stats matters too but essentially yeah

[lone junco]

@burnt meadow your sims will show you in the HTML. you can see the curves yourself. The SIMC value is just the average.

[burnt meadow]

sure, if you have bad pieces in certain slots that will dictate some of your options

but I have bis statted bracers and boots non-leggo

so that's not really a concern

fwiw the difference in SIM dps is 6k

[lone junco]

if all things were equal. I would play Shoulder on 2min 15sec fights cause you get 2 vanish.

if you have 2 vend that is ruined.

if there is a 2min vanish with vuln (kingo) i would use shoulders.

I personally prefer high avg, over rng bombs.

[burnt meadow]

i don't have mythic set shoulders or gloves so skipping the shoulders isn't a real option for me yet

[lone junco]

2p4p lol

[hazy flame]

In progress higher damage on execute is more relevant

[lone junco]

ish

[hazy flame]

You cant just look at it from a overall perspective

[burnt meadow]

yeah.. i didn't get mythic shoulders/gloves from ToS either 😐

[spare cloud]

you should also level alchemy to 800 for higher poison bomb procc chance @broken fiber

[lone junco]

zing

[burnt meadow]

guild had me main swap to rogue to help with Avatar mechanics, but never recleared for gloves lol

[lone junco]

2p is worth like 60k? for me at a 45ilvl loss

but thats up to you and your gear.

[spare cloud]

I dont have shoulders

[steep obsidian]

@broken fiber you also get a higher pb chance on bfa alpha you should just play there, oh wait :(((

[spare cloud]

Cant even tmog mythic set

[broken fiber]

Thats toxic sabod

[lone junco]

@spare cloud I went to find an image of a person with no RL shoulders, and they exist, but i felt too bad to post

[steep obsidian]

eww

[spare cloud]

Ewww

[burnt meadow]

lmao

[spare cloud]

Imagine missing a shoulder

Almost as bad as being tiny

[steep obsidian]

😦

[burnt meadow]

@lone junco when you go 2/4 i assume you use insignia/bracers?

[spare cloud]

Bleed specc.

Bracers boots

But its also strong for pb

[burnt meadow]

does that require a crit heavy stat setup?

[spare cloud]

With ring boots

Yes

You need like 45%+ or smth for it to be comparable to poison

[burnt meadow]

yeah.. i'm sitting at like 31-32

so probably not a realistic option for me

[spare cloud]

Yeah all the guys with more than 30%

Fuck me

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[spare cloud]

I havent met a guy with comparable ilvl with less crit than me

[shrewd oriole]

30% crit, 225% mastery

seemsgoodman

[spare cloud]

Yet

Nice you even have more mastery than me

[dense quest]

how low haste can you go!

[spare cloud]

Not low because 980 set gloves

[lone junco]

yeah, @burnt meadow lower crit like that is still ok with bracer boot mp/subt/vig/tb. 2p4p. ideal is shoulder glove 20

but if its not a gain, dont do it.

[burnt meadow]

would i still need to go bleeds for that?

exsang/etc

[lone junco]

mp/subt/vig/tb.

[burnt meadow]

oh right

[spare cloud]

He just said

[burnt meadow]

k, ill sim it real fast

[spare cloud]

Lul

[shrewd oriole]

check pms toph

[lone junco]

remember, <0.5% is nothing, so unless you are gaining 1-3%, just play what you are good at

[shrewd oriole]

just linked u the funniest shit

wanna see it too noobe?

poggers

u did a good choice

[hoary copper]

meh Sanguine necrotic fortified

[spare cloud]

Thats good

[shrewd oriole]

rip

thought it was sanguine volcanic

😦

[lone junco]

just make a shitpost in pe

poe

[hoary copper]

they switched volcanic and necrotic

[lone junco]

necrotic makes you pull small. or just forces kiting after like 30sec?

[steep obsidian]

necrotic isnt too bad i guess

[solid nova]

Necro is alright

Just take a shaman with you, pull everything and link

[steep obsidian]

its bad when paired with raging fort

[hoary copper]

yea reduced healing so you have to kite, which you need to do with sanguine anyway

[steep obsidian]

yeh

[spare cloud]

Small pulls

Assa week?

[lone junco]

wait. kite with cripple, and kite without cripple

grats

[solid nova]

Dont have to pull small

[steep obsidian]

well you can use crippling with sin

[solid nova]

Necro rule

[steep obsidian]

so mebbe

[solid nova]

Kill adds before adds kill tank

[spare cloud]

Kid with cripple

[steep obsidian]

or that

[lone junco]

sanguine heals right. so kite but dont kite.

[steep obsidian]

depends how high a key 15s will be just blow everything up who cares

[quick talon]

crippling depression week

[lone junco]

I like the 20sec murder.

[steep obsidian]

same

[spare cloud]

Google maps knows i went past a kfc

:(

[steep obsidian]

i mean sanguine is sorta like bolstering but easier when ya think about it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare nebula]

[vestal wren]

google maps knows

[spare nebula]

ty based cache

[spare cloud]

I dont want to think about it.

[hoary copper]

mmm those mashed potato bowls

[spare nebula]

@spare cloud yw. we know all.

[spare cloud]

I went to the shop next to the kfc

Its a conrad

[burnt meadow]

so 2/4 against ST with bracer/boot sims 2k dps higher lol

[spare cloud]

Google maps doesnt care though

[zealous dew]

US BOYs

[spare cloud]

2k dps

[zealous dew]

affixes, right now

[spare cloud]

Guys you can do antorus crossrealm noe

[burnt meadow]

2k probably not worth the HP loss from a survivability standpoint lol

[spare cloud]

Noe

Now

I think

[rancid blaze]

Hey guys i have a quick question. I just simmed myself and the crown and shoulders it's saying is best over bracers shoulders. I know this is feelcraft but is that right i figured the bracers shoulders was a stronger combo. I haven't simmed the boots yet i guess i should do that. Thanks.

[hoary copper]

Old news toph

[spare cloud]

I think im gonna form a group to clear tos every week

[burnt meadow]

thanks for all the answers! ❤

[hoary copper]

late to the party

[spare cloud]

On horde

[shrewd oriole]

Im gonna afk lfr

[hoary copper]

Trust the sims

[shrewd oriole]

I'm sorry

[spare cloud]

Follow your feelings dame

[shrewd oriole]

@spare cloud we should do that

[rancid blaze]

lol

[shrewd oriole]

I'll help out

[spare cloud]

Yeah no you gonna snatch my shoulders

[shrewd oriole]

I know like at least 5 people who I could convince to come

[spare cloud]

And when you got them you wont come anymore

[hoary copper]

Today will be a better day to get all my LFR done, its less awful than later on in the week

[shrewd oriole]

we can share

😦

I have 950 gloves so if I get below that u can have

[spare cloud]

Thanks

Gonna replace my 980 21p hands with that

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

for bleed ye

[spare cloud]

And then i wear 915 shoulders

No but you can join

[manic vigil]

Imagine 980 t20 gloves shoulders

[shrewd oriole]

ty baby

[spare cloud]

Maybe we can form a permanent group for clear

[shrewd oriole]

oh god this is cringe

[spare cloud]

Only takes like 1hour

[shrewd oriole]

I hate lfr

no kj ye?

[spare cloud]

Ofc

High rolled trinket has good use

For sub

Also kj is easy

We sold it recently and first tryed him

[shrewd oriole]

Rly?

[spare cloud]

After like a few months no tos

[shrewd oriole]

neat

[spare cloud]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

oooh imagine a 955 engine

[spare cloud]

You skip most annoying stuff

[shrewd oriole]

poggers

[spare cloud]

Same with avatar

Maiden can still wipe you though

Because its maiden

But she dies after first teleport

While casting

[hoary copper]

Did HTOS yesterday, didnt get passed Maiden. Colors are hard

Also tanks taunting is hard

[manic vigil]

Tf tos gear. Sounds delicious

[hoary copper]

950 tier helm for rogue yesterday GG

[manic vigil]

Helm is

[spare cloud]

Shit stats

[hoary copper]

True, still that it was 950 from TOS

[manic vigil]

Still nice tf tho

[spare cloud]

Yeah on the wrong piece

Unlucky

[manic vigil]

Idd

[zealous dew]

looks like it's free M+ weel

going to see a 29 in time ?

[hoary copper]

Eh still not looking forward to pugging with sanguine and necrotic and tanks not knowing to kite

[zealous dew]

isn't sanguine volc ?

nop it's necrotic

kite kite

all day long

[manic vigil]

Stop the pugging madness bruen

[zealous dew]

hov 29 in time

[manic vigil]

You're a nice guy, make some friends damn you

[hoary copper]

No they switched volcanic for necrotic

oh Shantal beat me

[zealous dew]

gonna be fun

wtb maw 29 necrotic

they should make at 4th at 25

sanguine, necrotic, fortified, explosive

[spare cloud]

Yeah

teeming fortified grevious tyrannical

at 25+

[zealous dew]

and force you to play disc priest

😄

[spare cloud]

and bosses get teeming too

and the boss teeming mobs bolster the boss

[zealous dew]

teeming explosive grievous bursting fortified

RIP

[shrewd oriole]

just did lfr kg

got rank 2

went check what was r1

wtf

[zealous dew]

a sinrogue

with 22 stacks of determination

[shrewd oriole]

none other than a sinrogue

if u reset the boss do u get determination

[placid egret]

No

Has to be a wipe

Iirc

[quick talon]

lorc

[shrewd oriole]

can we go coven before vari

this is such a waste of time

[hoary copper]

Yea its only wipes otherwise you'd just keep resetting to get 5 stacks and one shot it

[shrewd oriole]

I hate lfr

[quick talon]

Why are you doing lfr?

[shrewd oriole]

cache

[quick talon]

U guys into self torture

[placid egret]

Fuck you iwin 😡

[zealous dew]

lfr is the best

[shrewd oriole]

should've just waiting till tomorrow

[quick talon]

??

What did i do

[placid egret]

Calling out my typo

[hoary copper]

poor iWin just trying to be a good boi now

[quick talon]

o

ye already forgot

[spare cloud]

yeah fuck you!

[dire spoke]

👀

[placid egret]

Looool

[quick talon]

stop bully

😡

[placid egret]

:Rage: ?

C'mon my dogger

How you gonna bully me then fuck up

[quick talon]

I did it on purpose

so you can feel better

[placid egret]

Thank God. You're a good friend.

I wanted to end it all tbh

[zealous dew]

how many KG adds in lfr ?

[manic vigil]

Let's keep bullying iwin

[placid egret]

1

[manic vigil]

I like that

[placid egret]

I actually don't know

Id assume it's 1

[zealous dew]

ded cennel again, all US boys pushing +28 already

[steep obsidian]

nahh

fook mythics for a bit 😛

dumb cache made me mad

[quick talon]

wow u guys r toxic

[placid egret]

Oh fuck I forgot it's the ezpz week

[steep obsidian]

yeah ill do a ton of keys im sure 😛

pugs shouldnt be a huge issue this week

[hoary copper]

I still wont do a lot of keys

[manic vigil]

Tisumi

[shrewd oriole]

lfr btw

[hoary copper]

Lol you're not carrying them tom?

I thought you were the best

[manic vigil]

We had 4 upper keys this week in our group. Next will be 0 im sure

[steep obsidian]

bersrk on coven?

[shrewd oriole]

I'm afk

berserker on vari

[placid egret]

Time to push 4k score.

[steep obsidian]

lol

oh you are euro right

[manic vigil]

Normal time not muri derp time btw

[steep obsidian]

so it hasnt reset so it end of week and people running their 16th alt

[manic vigil]

Sorry

[vale mauve]

hey guys, if i will go with legos wrists/boots. which talents are the best?

should i go with vigor instead?

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

what do you mean instead

[placid egret]

Oh no

[shrewd oriole]

are you not already taking vigor?

[manic vigil]

Not using vigor is madness

Bleedi boiz included

[vale mauve]

my bad guys, im kinda fucked in the brain right now... im actually using vigor

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

they know

[placid egret]

Rest in peace tom

They're gonna kick ya now

[vale mauve]

anyways i shouldnt change talents if i will go with boots/wrists right?

[shrewd oriole]

no

[placid egret]

Nah. Always have vigor in assa

[vale mauve]

sure thing

thanks

[manic vigil]

Well boots wrist might want subterfuge

But nothing else changes

[placid egret]

Yeah. That might be true.

Def sub in m+

[manic vigil]

Sayonara, bitches

I just wanted to say that

[jovial kite]

🤦🏼

[manic vigil]

I'm sorry

[placid egret]

Surprisingly only 2 people have ever made that joke. Including you

[shrewd oriole]

lfr bis 🤔

ye

disgusting

on lfr u can stack coven right

[brazen forge]

yes

[hoary copper]

yep

did someone immediately whisper you and say "need that" and open trade? its the LFR way

[broken fiber]

[placid egret]

Big ups

[brazen forge]

Just drag one sister out of the room so you only have to fight one

[onyx falcon]

parsing high on high command is so hard >.< 3M n only 294, dam pplz w/ god PB luck

[hoary copper]

The +8 with the 880ish tank opened trade and asked me if I needed it before the loot pop up even faded on my screen

[manic vigil]

Stop typing, burger! You're making me hungry

[brazen forge]

Sorry 😒

[manic vigil]

[quick talon]

pwetty pwease

😊

wiggles

[brazen forge]

O-oh h-h-hello there >//< wags tail

[placid egret]

OwO

[shrewd oriole]

@hoary copper yeah

but he only did 200k dps

so I deleted it

[hoary copper]

You could have been a hero Tom

[quick talon]

nyea~

[shrewd oriole]

rip

we wiped

both tanks died

[placid egret]

????

[hoary copper]

Mr fuzzy balls eh?

[manic vigil]

[brazen forge]

[quick talon]

toxic

😦

[placid egret]

[shrewd oriole]

lmao

[hoary copper]

Let me show you my the darkside

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

indeed

[hoary copper]

Tom has a "girl"friend from LFR now

[manic vigil]

[placid egret]

Your single eye is pretty.

[zealous dew]

he's outlul

[solar fog]

xmog>score

[zealous dew]

well I agree

[manic vigil]

Nice photo of your screen

[steep obsidian]

this why i was salty

best cache

[placid egret]

F

[quick talon]

F

[manic vigil]

Kek

[steep obsidian]

dont think its possible to have worse traits

best troll

[zealous dew]

you can

[quick talon]

Shadowbind isnt too bad

PK is fine for m+

Its not the worst relic

[brazen forge]

transmog.io should be a thing

[steep obsidian]

😦

[manic vigil]

Not the worst but still steaming bullshit

[zealous dew]

cos + haste + strangler

best combo

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

got rank 1 coven lfr boys

easy game

[manic vigil]

[restive inlet]

Excellent skill

[shrewd oriole]

[quick talon]

are you actually logging

LFR

[shrewd oriole]

oh shit

actually got a good item from cache

argus belt

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

good for mog

[restive inlet]

The new meta

[shrewd oriole]

I like the belt

just realized I didnt log that lfr

because my addon doesnt auto log lfr...

fuck man my lfr r1...

[quick talon]

just

queue again

[steep obsidian]

pray someone else was logging!

[quick talon]

LFR heroes rising

[shrewd oriole]

blaze it

[zealous dew]

lfr coven ?

[shrewd oriole]

ye

[zealous dew]

lulz

[manic vigil]

I'm bored, halp

[zealous dew]

no wiperino ?

[shrewd oriole]

no stacks no

LOL

[manic vigil]

[zealous dew]

no I mean no wiperino

[shrewd oriole]

no

[manic vigil]

You are tisumi! Be proud

[shrewd oriole]

the mighty tisumi

[manic vigil]

Steroidbrah broke tisumi

Germans are assholes

Trust me I know

There types the mother of all assholes

[spare cloud]

Yeh fick those filthy germans

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

Best country in Europe

Fat old lady for a leader

[spare cloud]

Fick ja

[manic vigil]

Toph is doing a really good job of triggering me lately

[spare cloud]

Why

[manic vigil]

Fucking hate his stupid guts

Idk, everything you say seems dumb

And I know you are not

So

[spare cloud]

Better back off dude

Or ima pull thr musclebrah on you

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

Maybe i am dumb

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

And its all a facade

Who are you again

[manic vigil]

tisumi

[spare cloud]

Not sure if he doesnt get the joke

Or hes just too nice

[manic vigil]

Who

[spare cloud]

Nice

[shrewd oriole]

Dude

[manic vigil]

I'm just trying to cheer up tisumi

[shrewd oriole]

My maid got me bananas from the grocery story 😃

[manic vigil]

He needs a hug after steroidbrah raped him

[spare cloud]

Keeping her pet alive

[manic vigil]

Your maid

Fucking hell dude

[quick talon]

@shrewd oriole nice esmeralda

[shrewd oriole]

No hate pls

[spare cloud]

Did you pat her on the head for that

[shrewd oriole]

Nah she’s Ukrainian

[manic vigil]

[spare cloud]

Tom donate me 10000 dollars please

[manic vigil]

Family guy reference

[spare cloud]

I really need it

[shrewd oriole]

That’s 10 hoodies

No way

[spare cloud]

For my study

[shrewd oriole]

Oh my god she also got my cheddar

[quick echo]

Will Kingsbane SS Nightstalker? Or should I be using Enevenom/Rupture with Vanish?

[shrewd oriole]

I’m a happy bot

[spare cloud]

Bananas and cheese go well together

[quick talon]

+ ketchup

[spare cloud]

Ewww

[manic vigil]

His maid

Wtf

I'm still in shock

[quick talon]

Well

he explained it in voice chat like a week ago

[spare cloud]

You didnt know?

[manic vigil]

I did, but forgot

[placid egret]

I'm fucking shook

[spare cloud]

What the fuck dude

[quick talon]

poor shoom

[placid egret]

Don't say it win

[shrewd oriole]

Cheese

[spare cloud]

Are you trolling

[manic vigil]

Shoom?

Google halp

[shrewd oriole]

Why is so surprising I have a Mais

Maid*

Is it really that uncommon

[quick talon]

ye

[placid egret]

Cause I'm poor as fuck.

[quick talon]

for most people in here it is

[spare cloud]

Nah

I dont think it is

[shrewd oriole]

Toph knows what’s up

[spare cloud]

They are not really that expensive

[shrewd oriole]

I feel like most people have someone clean their house once or twice a week

[quick talon]

yes

[manic vigil]

Just how rich are you Tom

[quick talon]

myself

[spare cloud]

They just get minimum wage anyways

[shrewd oriole]

I’m not talking full time maid

Full time maid is super expensive

[spare cloud]

I could pay that and still have enough left for food and shit

[manic vigil]

No one cleans my house that's why it's always a mess

[shrewd oriole]

@manic vigil I mean it’s all my mothers money

[spare cloud]

Tom is a mommas boy

[manic vigil]

Can I be your new daddy

[shrewd oriole]

I just get a healthy allowance and lots of gifts

[manic vigil]

Must be nice

[spare cloud]

I mean if i had the money

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

I titanforged at birth

Downsize is I’m short

[quick talon]

Even if i had the money i probably wont do it tbh

but thats personal stuff i guess

[spare cloud]

My grandpa is kinda rich but hes more the saving type

[shrewd oriole]

You say that because you’ve never had a maid dude

They’re so confident

Convenient ^

[quick talon]

ye

[manic vigil]

If I were rich I'd have a maid for sure

[quick talon]

but people pay mechanics to change their car tires

i dont like doing that either

[shrewd oriole]

My mother’s maid cleans the entire house and makes dinner

[quick talon]

🤷🏿

[spare cloud]

What do you mean with rich

[shrewd oriole]

So my mom gets home super tired and gets to lay down eat and watch tv

It’s bis

[quick talon]

bis maid

[spare cloud]

Like you can pay a maid easily if you work a job in a bank or smth like that

[shrewd oriole]

Rich by European terms, rich by Portugal terms

What’s rich

[spare cloud]

At least a part time one

[shrewd oriole]

Is there an actual definition

[spare cloud]

Full time ones are a different story