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You need an exorcism not a prayer
Instagram models are a blessing to this world
Yawn
I'm big chillin atm in class. Hbu fam. @quick talon
What class? Its like 10pm here. Ye im doing fine, playing some OW
No one in voice chat 🤔
I don't blame them ^
Intermediate acting. And nice. You getting nutty frags?
Acting 🤔
Is poison build and bleed build different dps?
sure.
now thats a meme i can get behind
still low level, but the tool kit looks great
I love the idea of a /target Explosive orbs cast drainsoul
makes me lol
ive got a wa that tells when they show up, and can just mashem
thats true, im doing mage this time but honestly mage resources are kanker
like RH is so structured but AT is a mess
Altered time is great
I like it personally dunno
RH is very lackluster in a lot of areas
in depth the guides (at least for arcane/fire) are vastly different than the logs of the people who make them
guides should get you to blue/purp. they cant do everything for you
and the discord setup is filled with people bickering and misinfo
Yeah, I'm with tom on this
RH at least keeps that down
AT is great
One of the best communities
But if you can looks at logs, you really only need need a basic guide imo
I learned all my rogue shit from logs mostly
I dislike the hunter community but that’s just cuz I dislike azortharion
id say same, but here you can ask in-depth questions with answers, i havent gotten the same feel there
Maybe you’re asking dumb questions
If you ask dumb questions here you won’t get nice answers either most of the time
well if they werent covered by analyzing logs and in a guide id say they werent dumb but who knows
instead they were arguing about bis legos 🤷
There’s also the option that the “good” mages simply weren’t
On
Lots of things
Dunno
I find it a more informative community than RH personally
The forums and the guides there are pretty thorough
but also maybe its that in the disc there arent class channels so it was a lot of stuff going on at once
Oh I don't really use their discord much just the forums it's nice
^
They have super thorough class guides for raid and mythic + it's cool
guess i shouldve specified, the guides are really in depth but the disc was where i had the grievance
In that sense, RH has a generalized rotation guide and that’s about it
I feel like most people here are trolling or just talking about poe 😂
he got ip banned 😦
Damn
progging varim atm can I skip the escort with step or does that proc an add?
walk out step back
or if you're a sin rogue taking preys just walk both because you need step on cd to deal with it
Cheers
and I learned more about sub from Stjern logs than much else.
0.4s vendetta wasted!
What a n00b
not vendetta first gcd LUL
Yo real talk if you raid 3 days and you’re 5/11 what’s keeping you from ending it all
this is a family friendly discord please remove that ass avatar
Clout... glasses...
mmmmright
this dude got no clout
i raid 2 days and im 6/11 but cant rekill imonar should i end it
are u having fun 😃
on everything but imonar :feels:

youll get it soon : )
So positive
Yaknow what they say about bandages.
srs question though is it that hard to stay alive on when you're not a rogue?

depends on the healers i guess
and if ur players are steppin on mines or some shit
nah man we have folks dying to balls after i clear the bridge
Lmao
i think thats whats tilting me more than anything
That’s p tilting
Yeah we talk about path
But a lot of you just ask stupid ass questions
Ask something in depth and youll get an answer with thorough explanation
@lone junco did you try the hemo thing?
lock 
is it true that really good mythic logs mostly depend on poison bomb procs?
Yes in nutshell
feelsbadman
I been running boots/bracers for more consistent dps however
thought about that too but it feels like I perform better with shoulders/bracers
If you have 3Master ass relics, you can pair up vend with kB 100% of the time with boots iirc
Or you could just run meme alacrity
Yeah having one MA is just painful.
Wait if you have 3 MA's do boots bracers preform better overall? Ive simmed myself with boots bracers and it still sims ~50k under shoulders
Well going to 3 MAs with the exact same relics I have now is about a 30k increase for Alacrity and would equal my shoulder/bracers.
It just helps since with just 1 MA there's a period where your Vend and KB dealign.
MA is better than master alchemist now?

will do
"now"?
Define really good logs?
101%
Solid
Twice as much pb damage as everything else that's a pretty nice log
pure skill
Link the log
I wish
🤔
I actually got my first orange log in mythic today. Poisonbomb4lyf
Its great until you get 6 3% pb pulls in a row. If not worse. Kek
I honestly feel like I've been super unlucky for weeks with pb.
It's a curse
Seeing all the better logs than me only being better cos pb and concordance. Thanks game.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Tfw your raid wipes when you are doing great
Anyone got some pro tips for assassin on mythic Argus
dont fail mechanics
Heys guys, how does 3x master assasin trait affect your gameplay? i could go for 3x MAss and 3xMAlche but would have to sacrifice 10 and 25 ilvl on 2 relics. it sims ~ 4k higher so i'm not sure if it'S worth it
Note: i mostly play m+ with the rogue
What addon do people use to announce poison bomb procs?
make a weakaura or google for one and make it so yell out when you proc a pb
Make sure it also whispers any other rogues in the team to let them know you got one.
thats alacrity
it sims better with raven ring
for me and others at least
not by much tho
should resim with alacrity ? 😮

higher than my mantle setups
its equal~~
all day all night bracer .. lf secret legendary ..
2.293.010 DPS boots bracer ..- 3k mantle bracers
2.3 crown/bracers
what a odd setup, never saw someone simming better with EP for poison build
maybe high crit and "low" mastery?
of course .. ep sims higher in this setup .. i cant hold my 20x% mastery
Down to 160% probably still maintains MP.
That’s a weird set up
I'm gonna need to see that sim
No they meant the output.
^
damn that crit tho
I'm not saying you're lying, I just find 2.3m with boots crown a little hard to wrap my head around
wati
P sure I sim 2.3 in nearly any set up
outlaw bracers + sub hands
But boots and helm are top tier ?
Whats so unbelievable lol
Tisumi's version of my build is like 2.32
Mine would be 2.3 but I got drunk and made a very bad relic choice.
I'm only 2.08 
Outlaw players 
Well that's my Sin setup. Outlaw's at 2.1ish?
Pretty much. I can't get over that to save my life.
man my outlaw doesnt even sim 2m 😦
Did you just assume my dps tom
Downside of having 0 mythic.
Rip
cries
My sub sims 2.4 tom. Dont worry
All the advice noobe gives would be gone then..
Do you really want that?
Do you want noobe gone?
Yeah then the people that SIM 2.3 can answer the idiotic questions that the other 2.3M idiots ask.
Plenty of 2.3m idiots
xD
Amen to that
I'd dare to say... most of them.
2M idiot, get it right idiot.
TOO BAD NOW THERE'S BEEF
me?

@prime void link
Not even 99 Bpa on heroic or normal 
Eonar breaks guilds up
Damn that’s a feels bad man
His relics could be booty?
4/11 probs means they are stuck at keeper
Thats what holds me back so much
Keeper is a somewhat hard boss
if you are 4/11 you have more them "some" idiots
Def the hardest of the first 5

😦
AHC @ 4%
What do you have
Oh
4/11 could mean a lot of things.
Hmm. Agreed.
Just idiots that have not killed themselves yet.
We're all close
Ez pz
Nice nice nice
We still have retards die every p3 gaze TR overlap
With chains going out
Same spot
Every night
I just cloak that overlap
No changes
Kek
But the hunters
Aspect tho?
Do y’all stagger chains?
Mhm
We break them both together all 4 times ( 1 with suicide), 5th we just ignore
Suiciding 3rd set?
Sounds like you need DIVINE FIELD RANK ONE PALADIN M+ GOD SENT HEALER
We ignore 5th.
Ah.
😎
Resto S resto D Hpal Disc
Not bad
Our gazes are bad aswell
We did hpala hpala resto d resto S mostly because our disc sucks ass
Melee or ranged?
Ranged
Always on the wall
Yup. Me too
It’s the best spot dude
Its 👌
Middle you get fucked by ranged so often
Well if you get rage there too
Right you can get fucked by orbs or just movement
You dont even move
Wall is just Gucci
Youre already on wall
Exactly
👌 👌 👌
It’s the easiest spot
Yeah definitely
I mean we're mostly all hella homies
Enviroment is good
Morale is just straight in the shitter
Fair
So people dont take every pull seroously I feel.
We had some toxicity after 350~
And with a new tank randomly dying, its fucking rough
Thats when people get defeated. Have an amazing pull and boom hes dead
Hes a BDK
He was our Fmage
Bdk is rough on argus
Swapped to cover the.spot of the guy who fucked us on what would have been kill night
Is he third tanking at least?
Nopeeee
Lmao rip
Hes MT'd previous tiers atleast
It’s a very hard fight to tank and from my understanding bdk is one of the worst tanks at it
Our monks take like 6 scythes with kegsmahsh shoulders
Such a joke
Yeah... hes squish af
What’s he take, like 3?
If we're lucky 😂
In a p defensive set up
3rd tank will come take one scythe
What’s his dps?
Inbetween orbs to help
Who’s your third tank?
Another BDK
Wtf
They’re like a whole other dps
Thats actually.nutty.
Tbh they’re insane dps players going keg smash shoulders but
Still
P impressice
Yep
Are you staying rogue for BFA tom?
I might go DH
I wanna say no but guild will most likely tell me to
Sin boring af tbh
I’m the only rogue
If I reroll obviously the people who played the class previously take prio
There’s no good melee that we have 0 of right now
And ranged I’ve only ever truly played hunter
Is your melee team really that good?
Yeah
Im sure you could outperform the majority of them no?
I think I could go toe to toe with them but idk
Don’t think I could just straight up crush them
Dk is good
Our monk is insane
Gotcha
Legit our best player
By a mile
Guy is probably the best player I’ve ever played with
Our top dps is me,monk, or warrior
His logs are INSANE
Multi 100s?
Do you have a 100 tom?
R1 is r1 my man
Yo, about to start prog on aggramar. Any tips or any videos guides with Sin pov?
only sin leggo im missing are boots
You’ll have a good 50 wipes at minimum so you’ve got time
Play shoulders then imo
Go bracers shoulders then imo
Bracers shoulders=top
What a monkey
If your shoulders aren’t orange you’re a 
Here we go again
LUL
Tom I see you are copying mizu and made your pfp a butt
Hey guys quick question, I couldnt find an assass opener for Exang build if you do have the shoulders, does it change from the original without?
Tom, are you saying im beta?
I’d play no Shoulders but I only have 30% crit
Cuz thats fucked.
@fallen bone there’s one on the guide
I thought we were both Alpha. Together.
Gay
Tbh tom, high crit is just so fun.
And ring on argus is fattttt
I have 226% mastery
Oh.
And I just keep getting good mastery gear
Enjoy shoulders for the xpac.
Exactly
I have 18% versa
My sub sim is so low
Cuz I just keep getting more and more mastery
I have like 155% mastery as sub
LOL
I sim 2.2k with a gnome
It’s gonna be a while before I can play anything but shoulders
And not feel trash
I need like 5-8% more crit
Alongside changing my gems and enchants
Cuz if I take out shoulders, crit is like 8 dos ahead of mastery
It’s like 48 master 56 crit
It’s a feels bad, I see people trying all these fun ep exsang or ep alacrity ring, or boots bracers :/
Fang gang
Is my fav
ep exsang F e e l sgood
My eoc is low
960
nothing beats a bracer BoTA exsang
Eoc 945
I have 3 > 950 kek
I’d play exsang but I need t20 shoulders
^^^^
I run like 100 times
That's me tom.
if you have high enough t21 shoulders you can do t20 cloak
It’d be a while before I could get exsang to sim as high as my poison build
what im running atm because i had 960 t21 shoulders lmao
Yeah mate haste versa I’d rather off myself
What's your sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hh4iAdpu8ChURkqYcM7YfN atm but im a low geared scrub
I know you're sim
noobe sims rlly close
Your*
Jack is around the same as me
About the same as mine tbh
Psure john has a big sim too
My relics could be better
@plain thistle
No 3 mass yet which whilst mass isn’t always the best, it aims the best
1 mass
So if I had triple mass my sim would be a bit higher
Big boi BB for me
Yeah I’m 1 mass 2 BB
jack is the only exsang rogue i know that is able to compete at the highest gear levels all bs aside
I want triple mass for AHC tho
I mean jack is the only rogue here who raids mythic and plays exsang
^
the only one in the top 100 on argus/aggra
Yeah cuz everyone went poison
on the latter bosses there are a few
Didn't he play poison on prog too?
Cuz it Simmed highest on lower gear
exsang is so user friendly for prog tho
Poison can be really consistent too
If you go boots bracers high crit lower mastery you’re pretty consistent
and it feels like bleed suffers less from boss uptime aswell
The high roll build is what I play
Low crit high mastery shoulders bracers
That’s the shit that does 2.8 on garothi
LUL
the other rogue in my guild plays 22/202 shoulders/bracer or w/e
he does just as good or better than me on most fights
Rip
the bdk i run with is like 979 atm, its gross
977 with shoulder build , but sim less
I’m 980 in bags
2 months
970 equip
Holy crap.
I mean he’s been fully mythic geared for two months
P hard to get upgrades at that point
I’m at the stage where only warforges are upgrades
yeah, only wf+tf are upgrade and we are extending argus m
So I gotta be lucky for them to drop
and for aggramar I played DK 🤷
And then be lucky to get them assigned to me
Tier is even worse
I gotta he luckt for it to drop, be lucky it gets assigned and then be lucky it forges
@strange python I would play a poison if it were better but I'm kinda stuck. Plus exang is better.
I meaaaaan
im 966 equipped poison but i only sim like 11k more and i can never touch higher than my
exsang
Wonder who’s the highest simming rogue
@prime void I did. Got 50crit plus dog.
probably tyra
2.41 maybe.
he is simming 2.45 or more, dont remember extacly
jeez
was going to tag him, but he is offline, wont answer
He is a big fan of insig with fat crit.
2.45 is nutty
I like it tbh. Ep buffs the shadow hit. So I think he pushes 11%
lol
His Real is good too
right now the top sin simming rogues have crazy ilvl (978-981) or they have a good ilvl with a crazy good eoc
😂
i cant break 6m hp with bleed and im worried about later prog
the only time I simmed top 1-2 for sin was in the middle of tier, because I got lucky with drops
now im not even top60 probably
what kills me is you dont even have to be 11/11 to be in the top simming
just lucky with tf
lord
i have a 975 tier head
i wont replace it this tier, guild im in is never killing m aggra
I still don’t have M pants
945 pants atm
having slots for offpieces must feel nice
970 hands and cloak just chillin in my inv
toxic
i dont think i could play poison now if i tried, ive got 2 rupture relics
lul
@prime void link me stream
starting in 50
Ah rip
what you streaming
Thats the stream tho
Some more HS It is
I cant stream rn
He’s streaming his 600th argus wipe
I'm not at home
Disc priest
i think id just ride the bench on that one
playing melee with 500ms sounds painful
Lul
no
Baseline
baseline
50% crit is NUTTY
is there a reason you toxic blade before kingsbane in the opener?
Tb increase the on hit damage of KB
okay
its beautiful because its ugly, its his charm
@fallow estuary I'm not a fan of it but it has some prestige since not a lot of people have it/ are using it. I think I've only seen it twice lol
Nice!. To bad my dps sucks for mythic..even tho i have 960,😭
I mean that mount IS meant to be hideous.
@formal copper ilvl doesnt mean a lot if you arnt geared enough and don't know the class 😃 ive seen a 950 outdps a 970 in a raid before 😃
Yeah for soms reason i do shit dps. Maybe rotation or something i rlly dont know xd
I recommend reading the guide 😃 If you have done that you should be good to go and deal the highest dps in your raid
So many of them tho
Yeah this spec. specifically isn't so hard to play that you could be messing it up dramatically.
THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS
I also recommend this Video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6qna5o1LU&feature=youtu.be
Guide for 7.3.5 Assassination Rogue going over talents, legendaries, rotation, and opener
Also if all the guides that are out there are telling you information that is so different that things might be hard to follow... mmmm... something might be wrong in some of those guides.
Oké.. gonna look it, thnx👌
Oh gosh
don't do that it was a joke.
Just read the guide on the website that is at the top of the discord
About the video?
😰 😂
Yes.
That bad or?
Just read the guide that is pinned in this discord
It's the best guide you can find available right now
I think I know who that is, but it's been a while.
It was the video from earlier today
? ? ?
But yeah read the entire guide, the questions at the end, any questions after that come back and we will see what we can do.
Mmmm
????
was directed at mizerok
🤔 👀 👀
🤔
In Bg atm
pvp 
Yes
🤔
I only have other players pov
fun times for progging
gotta get my sleep rhythm fixed
I'm not at home so bad net
haha
do you need to use a finisher right after a KB if youre not using it with TB or does it not matter w/o TB
Well you want to use env right after.
Depends on if evenom is up
I typically env and then KB
should have done this months ago, but @turbid oxide @supple hearth can I have my name changed to green please?
ty Giggle
Why didnt you just ping all the shadowblades
and while youre at it also the despots?
@humble crane guess you aren't caught up with sin alacrity meme
🔨

cause two of them are on, no point bothering the others
😍
too good of a guy

BLOCKED
he only pings me and Giggle because we are the nice ones 😛
and then w the 5 second delay rule w TB, does that mean 5 seconds until KB has 9 seconds remaining on its uptime, OR 5 seconds until KB is available then u just use them at the same time?
You shouldn't use it at like 13 seconds
for you should go like kb -> w/e -> tb
so if its not up for the kb cast then delay for the last 9 seconds
but if thats more than 5 seconds away
from KB being at 9 sec
just use TB when its up
see what i mean?
then thats fine because you want to buff the initial dmg with tb
i can clarify if you dont get lol
Just use when its up it shouldn't matter, because its really kinda dependant on the amount of gcds you are able to use during the tb
right its best to buff the 9 sec but buffing from start is better than nothing
The only thing that matters is that you dont lose a cast
ahh
if that doesn't happen you can use it when you get the most out of it
so for example
if you got like 3 cp and tb comes up but there is 4 seconds on kb still
you can use it to get to 4/5 then evenom
and you dont waste any cp on mutilate crits
also you get the evenom for the kb
But if you have like 1 cp and there is 2 seconds on kb
I would use a mutilate first and then tb
hc varimathras is best for rotation failures
because nothing keeps you from playing the most optimal way
yeah
to get extra finishers in the vanish window
but that doesnt happen
oh really?
You get 3 evenoms max into vanish
because you need to do 2 mutilates in between the evenoms
Either at the end or when you need energy to keep consistency
I think you overcap in the beginning
and you dont need it to use the other abilities
otherwise that opener is gucci
yeah
I think you can get an extra evenom into the vendetta due to that
not 100% sure though because I'm not bloodelf yewt
havent tested it
gotcha
(it doesn't really matter when you use it) I am not sure if you overcap if you use it like that
thats why i mentioned it
do u dot both adds on aggramar?
On hc not worth it
on mythic yes
it depends on your raid though
if the rupture can go on for like 12-16 seconds its probably worth it
Hard to say
do you lose smth cuz of it
like kb uptime
because for example if you use kb on one add
right
and you are delayed by 2 seconds because you dotted the add
i typically dont use cds on the add
then its not worth it if you lose the last ticks of kb
bc regardless wont get full uptime
stuff like that
gotcha
tb then KB u mean?
ohhhhhhh
You lose like 4 seconds on evenom uptime during kb
right
cant check because the page doesnt load for some reason
but you play shoulders bracers right
yes
(judging from the opener)
Don't vanish without vendetta
also that vanish is kinda shady
ever really?
Well there are situations where you can use it
but that needs good judgement of the killtimes
right
for example if you use it at like 46% boss hp
and you get it ready for last 5 % with vendetta and everything
then thats gucci
rihgt
but you would lose out if you had to vanish without vendetta in the end
right
so most of the time you want your last vanish to be at 30% or less boss hp
because bracers
and while vendetta
and your vanish should always look like the one in the opener
meaning that it should be evenom mutilate evenom mutilate evenom
with tb being up from previously being used
You also dropped evenom uptime during the next kb because of that
most likely due to not having enough energy
so i should have pooled before that vanish
Toph dropping the knowledge tonight
Shouldve saved the vanish for the next vendetta
and before tb and KB
Yeh
Don't you have a boss to progress? @prime void
if theyre pub
I can but they are probably not a good indicator
I'm bad at executing stuff properly 
Anyone here able to take another look at my logs and tell me how to be more consistent in my mythic parses
Send link
5/5pk?
Poison knives
relics
nevermind it loaded i can check
Don't use fok single target
nope, 3 m sin, 2 m alch,1 TB
try to fit 2 evenoms at least in every toxic blade
only one in the next tb as well
wait for 9 seconds left on kb
in such cases
In those cases wait for tb and kingsbane before doing the vanish
You don't lose anything waiting because it doesnt matter when you vanish unless its out of vendetta
also the kingsbane afterwards is not goooood
because you are most likely energy starved
dropping evenom buff
that was really close.
That should be enough for now
how long should i hold TB to line up with KB 9 sec
how long should i hold KB to line up with vend/van
how long should i hold vend/van to line up KB
the difference between using it before kb and at 9 secs is about 0,3% or smth (quoting someone else i think they simmed it)
So only save it for 9 seconds if it comes off cd after you used kb already
You dont hold vendetta
You just hold the vanish until after you used tb kb
wont the enrgy buff of vend fall off?
You can evenom before 🤷







