assassination

[exotic glen]

on a scale of 2-6½, how gey r u shantal

[zealous dew]

3.14

of course

I feel my feminine side popping out

[frozen pecan]

windwalker lul

crap class

[stark heart]

You want at least one in bfa tho

(At least as of current alpha build of course)

[zealous dew]

windwalker is quite good

and a beast in m+

[hazy iron]

Do you know what else is good? Acid

[zealous dew]

toxic

[hazy iron]

T O X I C

[viscid helm]

Just stack ur main classes

[night vale]

guys should i play sub for pushing m+ keys? no matter what i do as assasination my dmg on the big trash pulls is not as high as everyone else... i have a warlock and hunter doing 10m+ on some pulls and best i get is around 5m, with lucky PBs

[viscid helm]

You should never play Sin in m+

[zealous dew]

i'll fix it for you, you should never play rogue in M+

[solid nova]

🤔

[zealous dew]

🤔

[dire spoke]

[viscid helm]

[buoyant lichen]

any idea if feint works for shattered bonds on m argus?

[viscid helm]

No

[stark heart]

If you pick elusiveness

[viscid helm]

DPS loss anyway

[midnight latch]

[calm grail]

What's CONFUSING NAYA

Energy spent staying alive is energy not spent shanking shit

[midnight latch]

#justshankem

[steep obsidian]

yeh if you die jus blame healer

[brisk forge]

Or blame lack of leech on gear xD

[tacit bay]

wait Shienarr here

:kreygasm:

[dire spoke]

we're all here

[shrewd night]

It's almost as if you're surprised

[tacit bay]

I actually am ^^ why were you raiding at 1.2k when you know people x(

[shrewd night]

Because zempai here is a clicker, and everyone else is in Finnish guilds

@viscid helm confirm pls

[tacit bay]

Finnish guilds 💔 F

[quick ice]

False. Token Aussie here.

[shrewd night]

So technically a British Fugitive

[dire spoke]

sometimes it's the feels, not the numbers

[viscid helm]

[tiny leaf]

Hello guys can anyone tell me , i have an 940 relic with this 3 traits Master alchemist + Murderous intent + Toxic Blades

and i wanna change it with this 960 relic with this 3 traits Master alchemist + Murderous intent + Gushing wound

[hoary copper]

Use raidbots to see if its an upgrade

http://www.raidbots.com/simbot/relic

[tiny leaf]

ok ty Bruen

[viscid helm]

[jovial kite]

there are 4 top 100 finnish guilds

3 are great

the rest are literal trash

[restive marsh]

Does anyone have a list of Master Assassin relics for all three slots?

[steep obsidian]

im sure you could filter wowhead to show you that info in a search

i can tell you the ones i remember from mythic dungeons though

shadow and iron in votw shadow in kara from medivh

blood in brh

thast all i can remember off the top of my head

[echo estuary]

paragon best finnish guild

[shrewd night]

Usso taunta

[echo estuary]

good times

[restive elm]

Is is normal for crit to be highest weight? Just got my 4p and it's through the roof

[hoary copper]

Depends on your stats

[wild ledge]

And if you don’t have shoulders it’s higher too

[restive elm]

Yeah I'll trust the sim. 30% crit 170% mastery

Yeah no shoulders

[wild ledge]

There we go then 😃

[restive elm]

Ok cool, thanks

[cosmic charm]

Any suggestions on how to use Ring of Collapsing Futures for a newbie? 😃

[quick ice]

Probably every 30sec, but someone would have to confirm

[cosmic charm]

ok ty

[zealous dew]

attempt #12 for pug coven hc

[violet yew]

Oooof

I just wouldn't bother

[zealous dew]

need trinket

[violet yew]

Dimas?

[zealous dew]

highfather

[manic vigil]

[violet yew]

Would feint trigger it? Or you not playing rogue?

[zealous dew]

have pala alt 😃

for m+

[violet yew]

I'm just another fuckboi with a ww alt for m+

[zealous dew]

the problem with m+ is:

key level x : boring zz

key level x+1: stressful as fuck

need to learn better how to play palaheal

[violet yew]

Flash of light and afk isn't it?

[manic vigil]

[zealous dew]

not really

[fervent beacon]

I just spam chain heal on my shaman and afk

[manic vigil]

M+ healing is quite challenging

[zealous dew]

yep agree

[fervent beacon]

spam until oom

and i keep spamming it

OUT OF MANA

OUT OF MANA

[zealous dew]

you spam chain heal on feed as well ?

[fervent beacon]

group wiped

and i typically blame it on the lowest dps for not doing enough damage

[violet yew]

I used to play rdruid pretty well but haven't even healed a m+

[fervent beacon]

like last night, had to carry this 15+ arc

[hoary copper]

Keep everything on cooldown pretty much

[vapid moth]

M+ is hella annoying

People 965 frequently pulling 1.2 mill like wtf

[fervent beacon]

The felguard boss in Arc 15+, damage is pretty much the same across the board for bosses

[violet yew]

Get a good bdk and just do damage instead?.

[vapid moth]

Exactly @fervent beacon

[hoary copper]

Flash of Light -> BoV (before FoL lands) -> Shock -> FoL and good to go

[fervent beacon]

'oh but we do m+ for fun'

[lone junco]

@zealous dew lol. hpal. i was zzz at 8-13 14-15 is stress max.

[fervent beacon]

[lone junco]

rogue is so fucking easy compared.

[violet yew]

Rogue is always easy 😎

[fervent beacon]

Yeah well, all you do is dps as rogue so its easy 🤷

[lone junco]

but thats the way its always been

[hoary copper]

least hpal makes grievous pretty easy. trying on disc was less fun

[lone junco]

raid heals might be zzz. but pushing harder 5man stuff is real deal.

yeah. I didnt care about grevious.

4p21 wiped it.

and bov shocks

[hoary copper]

I still need 1 piece to get 4p

Using Velens + ILT tho, feels better and Chains + ILT for m+

[lone junco]

lock is coming along nicely though. leveling from 0. seems to be neat so far.

[zealous dew]

raid healing 😄

[lone junco]

I like 5s cause you get to use Sac and Bop and freedom on the regular

[hoary copper]

I think I may stick with hpally, tho I can push out some serious numbers on my disc already whos 10 ilvl lower

[zealous dew]

i asked a friend to heal hyrja 22, he hates me now

[violet yew]

Disc is amazing

[zealous dew]

😄

[hoary copper]

PWS with no cooldown on bfa alpha seems nice tho. No more plea

[violet yew]

What's the bubble size though?

[zealous dew]

pws had no cd in wotlk

[lone junco]

pws spam? looks like a disc is going back on the roster

I wouldnt do that shit, but will be glad to have one

[zealous dew]

speaking of depleterino

[hoary copper]

I think its slightly higher, but also the shield cooldown thing increases healing instead of no cooldown

[zealous dew]

i have a maw 23 on rogue

who wants to deplete it

[hoary copper]

I mean increases shield size

[lone junco]

tyr or fort?

[zealous dew]

seems the 2nd boss is hard

tyr

[manic vigil]

Maw 23

[lone junco]

if you are going to rip the key, just do the 2h

[manic vigil]

[calm grail]

Second boss is "whoopsies a scythe?!"

[hoary copper]

The boss that spawns adds?

[zealous dew]

yep

dodge scythe

😄

[calm grail]

Yeah, the scythe itself isn't the problem. It's what you start spacing out looking at the purple on the ground and trying to kill the adds that I forget about it

It's when*

[manic vigil]

Yeah fuck that shit

[lone junco]

hpal/disc. k go

[zealous dew]

healing is not a prob there, is not getting shotted by scythe, usually the casters do that

they have to finish the cast you know

[manic vigil]

Especially farther into the fight when everything is fucking purple already

[lone junco]

prob true.

gl hf.

Levling with haunt is fun.

1shots and resets.

[zealous dew]

well is that or arc 23

or uk 23

medivh grievous

😄

[manic vigil]

[zealous dew]

disc priest anyone ?

[calm grail]

Arc 23 would be better

[zealous dew]

muwhauwha

[calm grail]

It's going to hurt sure, but at least all the bosses have predictable mechanics.

[zealous dew]

yeah prob arc

[calm grail]

And then you have that minuscule shot at a juicy thumb ring

[zealous dew]

true

[lone junco]

just get the ring from your box.

hahahaha

[hoary copper]

I should do lower for DoS

[zealous dew]

i'm looting H/v wed

[hoary copper]

I hate lower so much tho

[shrewd oriole]

Lower is cool

It’s a long but p simple dungeon

[zealous dew]

this ?

[lone junco]

we actually depleted a lower with me on my rogue. went sub for a 14 and was Very high deeps. others just kept dying over and over and oer.

[calm grail]

Got a 955 EoC. Unless my box blesses me Im done with Upper.

Yeah I got a 960 drape of Shame out of my box last week rip.

[zealous dew]

on pala 😃

[calm grail]

On rogue for mwm

Me*

[zealous dew]

too bad i can't play maraad's anymore

it's so sexy

switched to pry/sephuz

[lone junco]

that the Martyr spam?

sephuz is so glorious

[zealous dew]

that martyr into BoV

heal party to full

[vapid moth]

@zealous dew are you horde

[calm grail]

If I wear that with Lego pants and Prydaz and go healing rogue I could get 100% healing parses right?

[zealous dew]

yep

[calm grail]

Can the leg healing crit?

[lone junco]

didnt know you could BoV the martyr

[vapid moth]

Darn

[hoary copper]

@zealous dew yes that -.-

[shrewd oriole]

Well

[hoary copper]

Just use 4p T20 for m+

[shrewd oriole]

Flowi already has the healing parses

[hoary copper]

A lot of pally do

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[vapid moth]

@calm grail just use leech poison

All my parse are 99 for heal

[lone junco]

ah.

So Flash/Bov/Shock or Flash/Bov/Martyr

[zealous dew]

for AoS ?

or in general

[lone junco]

Ive been tracking 4p21 so i dont waste it on a non shock

in general

I always tag Instants at the end of a cast.

saves the gcd

[zealous dew]

i do LoD, FoL BoV HS Lotm

full

lod increases healin taken by 10%

[lone junco]

lots of things fill the group with BoV. was a HUGE addition to the toolkit

WoD 5mans were gross.

flash you flash you shock you flash you flash you shock you

[zealous dew]

coven try #13 brb

[lone junco]

I like the chain. pump out some good deeps.

[fervent beacon]

I'd quit that pug after 5th wipe tbh

[shrewd oriole]

Same

[vapid moth]

Depends on where the boss was on the 5th wipe

[shrewd oriole]

I quit after 2 wipes on the same boss

[lone junco]

guess I assumed he was in a Mythic run again

heroic 13 is pretty rough.

[shrewd oriole]

Why would I stay, there’s 50 groups willing to take me thst aren’t gonna wipe

[vapid moth]

@shrewd oriole you’re the type of shit pugs hate

[shrewd oriole]

No?

[lone junco]

prob not tho. if he is banging out 2.3

[shrewd oriole]

I do top dps

Don’t die

Don’t wipe the raid

[fervent beacon]

i mean as guild in progressive, understandable but fucking pug man

[vapid moth]

Lmao. Yes exactly my point

[shrewd oriole]

If every person in the pug was me, we wouldn’t wipe two times

[zealous dew]

nah different group

[lone junco]

then you wouldnt have any healers or tanks

[shrewd oriole]

I can heal

[vapid moth]

“I’m the best. Gonna make it even harder to clear the boss by being another person to replace after a wipe”

[lone junco]

18 rogues wont do now will it

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve healed before

[fervent beacon]

if raid had me over tom, they'd kill it faster

[shrewd oriole]

AHAHAH tom the one trick

@vapid moth I don’t care how hard it is for the pug to kill the boss

[fervent beacon]

oh and whenever the pug leader is like DISCORD NOW PLEASE

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

It’s not a guild

[fervent beacon]

and I'm like I'm fucking deaf.

[vapid moth]

Then don’t pug

[shrewd oriole]

???

I’m just gonna ignore that

[vapid moth]

I don’t get why people join just to leave after a wipe or 2

[shrewd oriole]

@fervent beacon how do you raid being deaf, legit Q

[fervent beacon]

The only time I pug is for mission cache

[shrewd oriole]

I just explained it to you, when I join heroic pugs at this point I expect a one shot

[fervent beacon]

I just put on my hearing aids and crank up the volume

[dire spoke]

I pug ravenholdt groups to outplay y'all

[shrewd oriole]

If we don’t one shot I’ll join a group who does

[vapid moth]

Yes Tom. And I said that’s exactly the shit pugs don’t like

[hoary copper]

The only reason I equip martr is for that set bonus. I wonder if I should try martyr chains for my m+ set with the T20 4p

[shrewd oriole]

Because there’s 20 thousand groups and I have enough ilvl and achievements to get into any

[zealous dew]

i don't have high t20

[vapid moth]

Groups don’t one shot. Only been in one pug that does

[shrewd oriole]

Wel, I hate pugs that wipe

You’re in shit pugs then

I pug heroic every week

Never wipe

[manic vigil]

I think that's fair enough Tom. Not nice mind you, but I get it

[keen inlet]

anecdotals

[hoary copper]

Mine are 915/920 so its not great

[vapid moth]

Doesn’t he play eu

[shrewd oriole]

And I pug with @dire spoke mind you

[zealous dew]

would be nice to have 4-2 for m+

[lone junco]

@zealous dew 4p21 is good imo. I know its not dawn spam. but hitting a tank for 12-15M is pretty clutch.

[shrewd oriole]

So it’s not like I’m being elitist about who I’m taking

[fervent beacon]

👀 the fuck is this discovery weekly tracklist, guess my friend been listening to country all week

[shrewd oriole]

@fervent beacon that’s cool, has it ever been like super detrimental for you or is it generally fine

[dire spoke]

son of a ogre

[fervent beacon]

Fuckin Spotifity

[vapid moth]

Lmao country is shit

[fervent beacon]

its generally fine Tom, I just rather not join a pug discord so I just pull a deaf card on them

[hoary copper]

4-2 is what I plan on eventually wearing for raids assuming I can ever get the 4p T21 that doesnt overlap totally -.-

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[vapid moth]

Lmao “I’m deaf”

[hoary copper]

I do H TOS up to Mistress anyway to see if I can get a better sea star since highfather doesnt want to drop

[fervent beacon]

i used to have 920 tier shoulder for T20, don't know where it went

[lone junco]

I got a 900 Star from a normy run.

very very high on my trinket chart

[fervent beacon]

Basically @vapid moth and they can't really kick me because im typically the best performer in the pug too lol

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[lone junco]

and Ishkar's bubble is my new friend.

[hoary copper]

Yea, have you seen the trinket rates? a 895 beats most 940-950. Seems well balanced

[fervent beacon]

so if people whines about me not being on discord, I'd just tell them that a handicapped player is beating and doing better

[vapid moth]

Rogues are always the best performers

[lone junco]

@vapid moth cause it is a very easy role 😉

[vapid moth]

When I see rogues que I take em

[hoary copper]

I need to go for Ishkar, especially m+ replace the crappy one I have

[shrewd oriole]

Ishkar

Isn’t that

Hfc

🤔

[lone junco]

the dps pop is ok on tank when you are light, and a nice bubble for a dps

[cerulean aspen]

no

[lone junco]

3M or so

[cerulean aspen]

it's a hc trinket

[hoary copper]

Ishkar's Felshield Emitter from HC

[shrewd oriole]

Oh the shield one from AHC?

[hoary copper]

yea

[shrewd oriole]

Is that good I thought that was trash

[hoary copper]

1m cooldown too which is pretty good. It's good for things like m+. At 930 it places a [2658137 * (1+ versatility)] shield on the person

[shrewd oriole]

Ah fair

[hoary copper]

That plus prydaz you could be REALLY tanky (altho hpally already is)

[lone junco]

I havent healed a lot, but I would much rather have 3M off gcd than my crit trinket.

its like a bop that works on spells.

[fervent beacon]

I don't know what to main my pally for spec wise

[lone junco]

(at one point I was as good on hpal as I am on rogue now. under geared so It causes pressure)

I hate Ret, prot is fun.

[hoary copper]

Hpally is fun, I havent tried ret or prot. I did the ret trial tho and wasnt impressed. I need a dps spec on him tho so I'll prob put points in after I get this least 75th point into holy

[zealous dew]

wipe at 3 %

[fervent beacon]

Yeah, prot is the reason why im leveling it, they're insane good in + if geared

[zealous dew]

kill me pls

[quick ice]

Why does my phone think your last message contains a location @lone junco?

[fervent beacon]

had one pally tank soloing bosses at 20% when everyone else died

and that was at 16+

[hoary copper]

healing tanks wise, prot feels fairly decent to heal. All the tanks except like monk have pretty high self healing tho

[zealous dew]

i don't like pala tanks tbh

[quick ice]

@zealous dew here - take this 🗡

[manic vigil]

They hit hard tho

[zealous dew]

yep they do lot of dmg

[lone junco]

healing a monk tank will take some practice. The constant stream is pretty rough at times.

[fervent beacon]

healing monk is pretty predictable tho

[lone junco]

Ive been spoiled with a 14M druid

[hoary copper]

I like putting shockadin gear on and blasting through stuff

[lone junco]

Sephuz is so impressive tbh.

[fervent beacon]

sephuz, impressive in the same sentence 🤔

[lone junco]

yeah. I stagger Hammer/ Arcane torrent/ and the holy aoe. the haste is real

[hoary copper]

Sephuz is best for a few classes tho

[lone junco]

I had it on My outlaw at the beginning of legion.

so sad.

[manic vigil]

My aff still needs sephuz

[hoary copper]

The one I really could have used it on (shadow) never got it, so went disc. prob will be my next leggo just outa luck

[manic vigil]

Idk after raiding a little more seriously with my aff, the hype has died down already. St is cancer tbh

Multi dotting and laughing still pretty good tho

[vapid moth]

What class should I start next

[manic vigil]

What do you have so far?

[vapid moth]

Rogue and dh

[lone junco]

Im leveling lock, then boosting druid

[manic vigil]

Time for ranged or healer then I'd say

Broaden your horizon and stay woke

[vapid moth]

Don’t think I’d like healing.

[fervent beacon]

I have 110 monk, warlock, shaman and something else

[lone junco]

its pretty stressful.

[fervent beacon]

oh yeah, surv hunter

[lone junco]

or boring.

[manic vigil]

Ye

[vapid moth]

I couldn’t stand seeing low dps as a healer

[lone junco]

and healing will never kill a boss

[vapid moth]

“Stfu I could do better”

[lone junco]

I did that.

i went rogue cause our dps sucked on Archimonde

[vapid moth]

Yeah it does go both ways

[lone junco]

So ill prob be moonkin /resto

and just flex with a brez button

rogue is so very done this tier, so it is lock/hpal M+ time.

[brisk forge]

Almost everything is done if you've killed Argus xD

But its alt time!

Atleast for moi

[violet yew]

Time to get really serious and pet battle

[lone junco]

i dont get any personal fun value from end of tier farm. Unless I get a 985 socket SSF, im good.

Id rather stab my eyeballs with a toothpick than do pet battles

[violet yew]

Dude you ever tried?

It's not gay dw

[hoary copper]

I have 8 110s, only thing I dont have is hunter, warrior and DH I think

[vapid moth]

With avoidance

Need that avoidance

[hoary copper]

idk if I want to use my bfa boost on any of them

[primal tangle]

Boost a rogue

[hoary copper]

Why do I need 2?

[shrewd oriole]

PL

LUL

[hoary copper]

Im holding it in case I leave my server for another after bfa starts

[zealous dew]

No kill

I give up

I'll pug wed it's safer

[lone junco]

@hoary copper Im holding mine till after all notes are done. Esp if they fuck with Brez.

[shrewd oriole]

And that is why I leave pugs after two wipes

You spent what, one and a half hours trying to get a coven kill?

You spent what, one and a half hours trying to get a coven kill?

[dire spoke]

killed argus hc three times this week ):

didn't get shit

[hoary copper]

Yea good idea Noobe. Everythings going to change right until just after bfa releases so no real point till then.

[dire spoke]

We need a new tank

[strange python]

Sim one

[manic vigil]

[hoary copper]

Dodge tank rogue

make it so

[plain thistle]

doge?

[lone junco]

🐶

[hoary copper]

🐕

[strange python]

Go HPS rogue

Spam feint

[hoary copper]

Leach poison now heals the raid for each finisher

bam best healer

[strange python]

Eztank

[lone junco]

My dad is old. Just texted me this.

Thx >: )=

Is that a 🐐

[manic vigil]

Let's scrap outlul and make it a healing spec

[hoary copper]

Lol parents texting

[lone junco]

Full derp ranged is fine by me.

[manic vigil]

Or that yeah

[hoary copper]

My mother, who turns 70 this year, just learned to text. I'm afraid

[strange python]

Throwing ninja stars, class fantasy

[lone junco]

I'd like them to be a mix range melee. Mass aoe.

But doubt they will make it work. Ever.

[hoary copper]

Isnt that what survival will kinda be is mixed range melee?

[lone junco]

Yeah. But it could have worked.

Bte hitting for much much much harder.

[hoary copper]

throwing eagles on alpha looks fun

[lone junco]

And bf with cd. Hitting for 100%

[strange python]

I need help

In #off-topic

[midnight latch]

@manic vigil

@strange python

[strange python]

naya

!

[midnight latch]

👋

[strange python]

Hola

[manic vigil]

Naya alive

[strange python]

Nice top log eyes

[midnight latch]

ye my eyes are bewitching i know

[hoary copper]

Btw that discord that was made to help boost people fell apart. No surprise drama. Apparently one of the admins was selling boosts and being shady

[strange python]

100% uptime on PB exploit has been found

[midnight latch]

also that advertisment message

no germanz

ok

wat

[strange python]

Cant talk need to abuse

[quick talon]

heh please bring this to #off-topic 😉

[hoary copper]

iWin can talk again? for now?

[manic vigil]

[quick talon]

Hey stop bully

😡

[hoary copper]

🙅

[violet yew]

[zealous dew]

feck it, nothing to do, attempt #14

[hoary copper]

for what?

[zealous dew]

coven 😃

[hoary copper]

mythic?

[zealous dew]

nah hc, for my pala trinket

just to have a different set of trinkets, already got ishkar

[hoary copper]

ah yuck

highfather's is pretty good

have yet to see it drop but it does pretty well

[zealous dew]

yeah i guess so

or a big phat crit / versa stick

[hoary copper]

need to do my HTOS again too

[zealous dew]

archive ?

[hoary copper]

Sea Star

[zealous dew]

got it 920

[hoary copper]

yea that will beat any trinket pretty much

[zealous dew]

mmm

not in m+ unless you're melee heavy

got tarratus as well but not a fan of it

[hoary copper]

I use LoD a lot in m+ too so procs a good amount

yea I hate that trinket, I hate use trinkets tho

[zealous dew]

i like ishkar a lot for some bosses

like xavius

maw 1st

[hoary copper]

yea it's handy for m+

so Im told, I havent had that one yet either

Lol only thing that beats a 920 Sea Star is a 985 high father/tarratus/archive, Velens, Vision, or 970 Eonar/Arcano,

Archive would be decent for m+

[floral loom]

do we get more damage out of the melee or poison vulnerable add on argus?

[zealous dew]

poison

nature dmg increase

really? sea star that high ?

[steep obsidian]

@floral loom poison by a mile but all the idiot hunters warriors and monks insta blow up the physical one anyway so that one sorta sucks regardless

[floral loom]

ok, that's what I thought

[hoary copper]

https://gyazo.com/26767a02a5e85faa17275817863d7a20 @zealous dew

[floral loom]

last night I killed the nature one and the melee one was still up and got me thinking

[zealous dew]

yeah but that's for raiding isn't it ?

when LoD hits like 10 ppl

[hoary copper]

I mean it's in terms of hps but yea in general its the highest

I dont think I ever hit that many with LoD but it does 6% of my healing overall

[zealous dew]

i usually run with 0 melee in m+ù

lod hits me and tonk only

but i'll try it 😃

[hoary copper]

Lol if you stand next to the tank and face away from the mob you can do it backwards and still get yourself tank and range

even without RoL

(which I dont like using in m+ anyway)

[zealous dew]

15 yd :/

ranged are usually in africa

[hoary copper]

WTB life grip

[zealous dew]

hehe

rol is kinda ok in eoa though

[hoary copper]

Yea

did LFR on my disc and people werent stacking so I would life grip them to us

[zealous dew]

I just need to get better and learn damage patterns

[hoary copper]

Sometimes I was a dick if they kept doing it and I waited for the cooldown and then for void and life gripped them into the void as I ran out

[zealous dew]

😄

[hoary copper]

they'd just panic and die

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QcknG-1E-ZZRupIGOlA0A3-5WCwI1KnXotLkTjCtA_E/edit @zealous dew has some good hpally m+ stuff with gear choices and dugeon stuff

[lone junco]

@zealous dew tbh, if you have 3 ranged, you could still have them stack close enough, and stand behind them for cone.

but that sea star does a good amount.

[zealous dew]

want to devo tank

10% dr is neat

[lone junco]

dont blame you.

[zealous dew]

cheers for the link

[lone junco]

we never have 3 ranged. typ 2 melee. so I just hang out with them

[hoary copper]

I should use devo more, I end up with mercy in m+ for free heals

[lone junco]

oh god no

devo for the 1shot imp aura

btw, that guide made me laugh out loud

I didnt know that sanguine healed

rip all the times I left crip on

[hoary copper]

yea that's what it does >.>

[zealous dew]

yep 5% per tick

[lone junco]

tbh, I thought it just killed melee

[hoary copper]

LotM and 4pT20 will be nice with sanguine and tanks running all over the damn place

[lone junco]

was sub on a ton of lower keys, just wrecking them

[spare cloud]

ayyy lmao

[lone junco]

Long arm of the law is a really really great talent.

too bad it is on horse

[zenith cloak]

Is sin worth playing in m+? I’ve been playing sub more often and whenever I play sim I feel useless lol

Sin*

[hoary copper]

The only thing in that guide is theres a macro for explosive which I thought you couldnt macro

Sin isnt bad, sub generally does a lot of things better for m+ but if you pray to Rngesus real hard and get pb procs, it's decent

[zenith cloak]

Yes that’s what I thought, I’ll stick to sub for m+ then, rather not have to rely on my prayers to feel useful

[manic vigil]

I top meters overall as sub but I don't own boss dps and I hate it

[spare nebula]

in m+ or raids?

[spare cloud]

Yeah right

[manic vigil]

Mostly because I suck at sub tho I guess

[spare cloud]

[spare nebula]

top meters
sub

[zenith cloak]

Who do u run with? I run sub DH boomy and overall i get crushed lol

[spare nebula]

unless we're talking m+, then i believe it

[manic vigil]

In m+ you numbnut

Pay attention

[hoary copper]

Someone posted a youtube video sin rogue guide

Im afraid to watch

[spare nebula]

lol

[spare cloud]

Link

[spare nebula]

plz lnk

[zenith cloak]

Link pls lmao

[viscid helm]

pls dont

[hoary copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/85ibpp/made_an_assassination_rogue_guide_for_735_would/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6qna5o1LU

[manic vigil]

Where is your guide flowi?

[spare nebula]

odds of it being good are less than the odds of getting a good pb in opener

😉

[zenith cloak]

LOL

[hoary copper]

Flowi's guide would be 10 seconds. "Spec Alacrity suckaaaaas"

[spare cloud]

What the fuck

is that intro

Nice interface

[zenith cloak]

Y’all are gonna tear him a new one “Would like some feedback” oh boy

[viscid helm]

k i closed

[brazen forge]

is don't make videos good feedback

[zenith cloak]

I would say so

[brazen forge]

i think he should have talked in a panda voice instead of replying to text

[lone junco]

@zenith cloak tbh, I run as sin. have 2 mass aoe in group and i work as a ST. for priority mobs and tyr bosses.

[viscid helm]

[spare cloud]

What the fuck

[plain thistle]

damn, thats a nice transmog

[spare cloud]

I think he's trolling

[plain thistle]

😂

[hoary copper]

I just put it on so I can laugh

[zenith cloak]

He has to be trolling that intro is so bad 😂😂

[spare nebula]

no, he's serious

he goes directly into opener

[hoary copper]

he talks so slow....

[spare nebula]

omg

[sharp viper]

oh lord that is hilarious

[spare nebula]

no

his opener

[plain thistle]

and some wrong stuffs too

[spare nebula]

is so wrong

[manic vigil]

Wow you guys are so mean

[plain thistle]

"once out of energy you use vendetta" .... hmmm no?

[spare cloud]

How is telling the truth mean

I find it more mean to let him continue live in denial

[spare nebula]

lol

use TB on cd, unless you can line it up with... vendetta

[plain thistle]

at least his transmog is great 🤷

[spare nebula]

[manic vigil]

Good point

[viscid helm]

this guy is the average MMO champion poster

[spare cloud]

Why is the video not pinned yet

along the guide

[viscid helm]

better guide than Notters

[spare nebula]

this is hard to watch

[spare cloud]

Dislike the video

[viscid helm]

maybe i should make one

[hoary copper]

I had to turn it off

[spare cloud]

I think I am gonna login to actually respond to him

[manic vigil]

Flowi guide in the works confirmed

[spare nebula]

[manic vigil]

As if flowi had the patience to explain anything at all

[zenith cloak]

I had to stop watching that was painful

[spare cloud]

wtf you can create seperate channels on your google

[zealous dew]

flowi's guide: use alacrity, dps, don't die

[spare cloud]

and you can dislike the video with every channel

[vernal adder]

🇺🇸

[hoary copper]

I just responded too Toph, I just coudldnt

[viscid helm]

you guys are so mean

[zenith cloak]

His opener was on point tho 👌🏻

[plain thistle]

toxic boys

[spare cloud]

i didnt yet

[spare nebula]

found Bruen's comment

[spare cloud]

I was making another account because I dont really want to respond with my private one

[spare nebula]

have an upboat

[hoary copper]

Lol yay

[gaunt moat]

do it flowi

[hoary copper]

I mean thats not me

.>

[spare cloud]

who is that

[spare nebula]

alacrity? lul

[hoary copper]

Flowi's Alacrity sin rogue guide

[spare nebula]

-___-

[zenith cloak]

Always finishers at 4?? Is that right lol

[vernal adder]

dont be mean to Flowi he is a nice boi

[spare nebula]

@zenith cloak yes.

[plain thistle]

yes lol

4+

[gaunt moat]

I've seen some video guides on youtube that literally quote my guide

[hoary copper]

I was constructive and gave guides for him to read

[spare nebula]

I mean, if you get 5 cool, but dont mut at 4cp

[vernal adder]

no lol, all these people here are wrong

[manic vigil]

[vernal adder]

We havent even simmed it, its all feelycraft

[plain thistle]

no, always finish at 4 , if you get 5 combo points somehow dont ever finish just mutilate until the boss is dead 😂

[spare nebula]

[manic vigil]

[gaunt moat]

lol

[zenith cloak]

Oh yea ik that it’s not worth muting at 4 to get 5 I was confused on the wording but it’s ok I’m retarded

[spare nebula]

[spare cloud]

I commented as well 🤔

[viscid helm]

its not worth garroting either

[plain thistle]

@viscid helm once your guide is done can I translate it to the huehue language? I want a good alacrity guide to share with friends

[viscid helm]

unless it fell off

[plain thistle]

😛

[hoary copper]

Piphism, is that you Topph?

[fervent beacon]

@plain thistle don't worry, I'm working on my own alacrity guide too.

[zenith cloak]

Even with t20 2pc? It’s not worth garroting for the 5

[spare cloud]

No

[plain thistle]

oh nice

[spare cloud]

I responded on youtube

[hoary copper]

Oooh

[spare cloud]

he will probably delete the comment though

[viscid helm]

well lets say you have 4CP and you could garrote to 5

so you do that

[spare cloud]

where is the reddit post?

[viscid helm]

now ur next muti after finisher gives you 3CP

[spare cloud]

has someone linked it already

[viscid helm]

if you saved that garrote

[gaunt moat]

we tested if it's worth with T20 flowi

[viscid helm]

you could then garrote and get to 4

really?

[jovial kite]

[gaunt moat]

and results were it's not a loss but not a gain either

[hoary copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/85ibpp/made_an_assassination_rogue_guide_for_735_would/

[gaunt moat]

so it's mostly preference

[spare cloud]

ayy

[hoary copper]

I linked it with youtube earlier

[vernal adder]

lmao

[zenith cloak]

Oh alright I see what ur saying, but with t20 it doesn’t matter?

[fervent beacon]

The only time I get 5cp from 4 if in refreshing garrote.

[jovial kite]

i mean you can also wait for the garrote to fall off, then garrote and mut you now have 5cp more often

[viscid helm]

meh

[tranquil birch]

wasn't what was tested going from 4->5 with garrote though, and this was before the buffs to mut crit

[sharp viper]

[hoary copper]

I upvoted that comment >.>

[quick talon]

This video guide 👌🏿

cant make it past the intro

[zenith cloak]

I don’t use t20 2pc anymore tho so ty for that garrote saving info

[jovial kite]

toph proper lad

[gaunt moat]

@tranquil birch true. but i don't think that would make much if a difference.

[hoary copper]

Oh the person that responded was to a reddit guild progressing through normal.....

[vernal adder]

proper lad

[viscid helm]

o ye nvm

you guys were talking about t20

missed that

[fervent beacon]

Im also writing a guide for Notter n how to get swollen like I and maybe Tom.

[jovial kite]

🤢

[vernal adder]

write a height guide for Notter and Tom

[jovial kite]

[hoary copper]

"you must be this tall to ride"

[strange python]

yike

manlet hate :feels:

[fervent beacon]

can't do the slash mountain ride at Disney because I'm too short

Tom life in nutshell

[jovial kite]

[sharp viper]

i just checked his warcraftlogs, the youtube guy has 3 green logs ...

[hoary copper]

slash mountain, sounds like a horrible ride

[gaunt moat]

in BFA it probably won't be worth using garrote from 4>5
cause mut energy cost is slightly lowered

[strange python]

how is arcane m+? mage discord is fucking unorganized as hell

[fervent beacon]

Wait, splash mountain.

[jovial kite]

all my friends get to ride the coolest rides, i cant -tom probably

[sharp viper]

what do you mean slightly lowered? is the base cost reduced or are you talking about the talent?

[hoary copper]

Tom just buys $1000 platform shoes to be tall enough

[spare cloud]

Stop bullying tom because of his height

[hoary copper]

@sharp viper that's...sad

[lone junco]

@sharp viper normals?

[sharp viper]

mythic

[vernal adder]

thats lfr

[lone junco]

@strange python our mage runs arcane for m+

[strange python]

noobe coming in clutch

[hoary copper]

He's that bad and has mythic logs...I quit

[lone junco]

amazing AoE. but his ass needs to be in melee.

[jovial kite]

@spare cloud tom bullies everyone for whatever reason

[zenith cloak]

Maybe the youtubers right guys, triple green in Normal is not easy

[sharp viper]

no wait that is heroic

[lone junco]

like 8-15M bursts.

[jovial kite]

its not my fault hes short

[vernal adder]

🇺🇸 rogue

[spare cloud]

Yeah he has killed every mythic boss once

that makes sense

[sharp viper]

my bad, he is 10/11 hc

[hoary copper]

that makes me feel slightly better

[lone junco]

@strange python Arcane also has one of the best 10sec dps bursts ive seen. For Seat last boss vuln windows, he DUMPS the damage.

[zenith cloak]

Ok I feel better now

[quick talon]

I feel bad for our rogue video guide dude

get him in here 😦

[zenith cloak]

^^^

[lone junco]

that being said, he cant kill Explosive orbs, and jumping in melee is unsafe for aoe

[zenith cloak]

Call rogue video guide dude he’s crying 😥

[vernal adder]

meh dont harass him too much

[hoary copper]

Aw toph you were so nice in that comment

[quick talon]

thats what im saying

toph's comment is way to toxic

[gaunt moat]

has tom killed argus yet?

[spare cloud]

Oh my god she might even be a sublety rogue

[hoary copper]

I linked the discord @quick talon so maybe he will

[viscid helm]

ofc not

[zenith cloak]

He’s telling the truth at least

[jovial kite]

@gaunt moat carried you mean?

[viscid helm]

why are u guys being so

[gaunt moat]

he linked 0% wipe

[viscid helm]

this guy

put all he's effort

into this guide

he's heart and soul

[lone junco]

@strange python for reference, this is imps on Portal boss.

[quick talon]

esp the intro

Oscar when

[viscid helm]

upvote my comment pls

[jovial kite]

link

and i will

[vernal adder]

link the vid again

[viscid helm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/85ibpp/made_an_assassination_rogue_guide_for_735_would/

[fervent beacon]

@viscid helm did you tell him da wae to alacrity?

[zenith cloak]

Flowi u right but we I’ll never get that intro out of my head

[quick talon]

I guess youre ntflxnchill flowi ?

[strange python]

@lone junco oh wow, hmm. i like their burn/conserve style too

[hoary copper]

https://gyazo.com/6039893fc9e5f86dc38924fe06ca5560 is that you flowi?

[spare cloud]

all my reddit responses are toxic comments

[viscid helm]

obviously

rest are wall of text

thats effort

[vernal adder]

updooted

[jovial kite]

updooted

[spare cloud]

If you put in the effort to actually click the link then you might as well finish what you started

[gaunt moat]

how about you just leave very positive comments on his videos

[spare cloud]

I did that.

[viscid helm]

this guy is never gonna write an another guide

[gaunt moat]

like. really really positive.

[spare nebula]

well

[vernal adder]

lol

[spare cloud]

I wrote the same thing as I did in the reddit post

[spare nebula]

you should be competent at the class to write a guide

[jovial kite]

@gaunt moat thats evil

[spare cloud]

basically

[quick talon]

Dude

my comment is just positive stuff

[viscid helm]

are you sure about that Jandro

[zenith cloak]

Honestly I expected worse so I’m p proud

[hoary copper]

@gaunt moat my comment was positive

[vernal adder]

"Wow this guide helped me alot, im now the bestest rouge"

[gaunt moat]

i'm seeing only one comment on his video

[hoary copper]

Oh I did it on reddit

[spare cloud]

at least he's using the correct talents

[jovial kite]

i saw that

[spare cloud]

he got that going for him

[lone junco]

LOLL Intro

[quick talon]

He's using the correct talents by accident

[hoary copper]

I couldn't make it past his opener

[quick talon]

his argument to use NS

is to buff garrote

D:

[zenith cloak]

Noobe stop there don’t go further

[spare cloud]

Doesnt matter

correct talents are correct talents

[spare nebula]

again, you should be competent to write a guide, but like this guys shows: you dont have to be 😉

[gaunt moat]

at least he mentions you need to apply poisons
i never mention it in the guide
useless/10 guide

[dense quest]

Wear prydaz lmao

[spare cloud]

You also dont explain pandemic

[zenith cloak]

That’s why his is better

[vernal adder]

wow Notter rewrite everything

[hoary copper]

Well found iWin on reddit haha

[gaunt moat]

@spare cloud i actually do..

[spare nebula]

is love

[spare cloud]

I know.

Just the memes

[spare nebula]

[gaunt moat]

new comment !

48 seconds ago
Ya mind citing places where you think it's wrong?  Anywhere he should improve or change what he said?  I personally raid with him and he remains one of our top damage throughout Antorus despite being one of the lowest geared.```

[fervent beacon]

Posted my comments

You're all toxic.

[vernal adder]

[zenith cloak]

I can’t do emotes on phone

[hoary copper]

...top....dps?

[zenith cloak]

Am sad

[hoary copper]

What does his raid look like

[spare nebula]

holy shit

top dps?

w/ grey logs?

O_O

[zenith cloak]

Oh god we’re gonna roast his whole guild

We gotta stop

[plain thistle]

😂

[quick talon]

no im reformed

[gaunt moat]

he probably shouldn't have said that

[quick talon]

cya nerds

[jovial kite]

old iwin would've gone ham

you've changed

one could say....

reformed

[vernal adder]

[plain thistle]

DON banned him too many times, he is traumatized now

[gaunt moat]

you are free iwin

[plain thistle]

🤷

[gaunt moat]

you are no longer reformed

[sharp viper]

did notter give him a sock?

[gaunt moat]

@quick talon

[jovial kite]

[zenith cloak]

Oof

[spare cloud]

at least he has keybinds

[viscid helm]

@parthaxis

[spare cloud]

🤷

[viscid helm]

[zenith cloak]

Leaked

[spare nebula]

i want to see his guild's logs now

[gaunt moat]

so far only toph actually made a comment there from what i see

[spare nebula]

just so i can feel better about having shitters in my guild

that arent as bad as this dude

[viscid helm]

who comments on youtube?

[sharp viper]

the others commented on his reddit thread

[hoary copper]

Fixt

[quick talon]

I dont even have a YT acc

[viscid helm]

its on reddit

@gaunt moat

[sharp viper]

how do you not have a google account?

[fervent beacon]

I just did and also commented on Reddit

[zenith cloak]

Thinking

[hoary copper]

I commented on youtube

[spare cloud]

I dont know how I would survive university without a google account

[quick talon]

nice diusus

keep pushing him

[fervent beacon]

Wait I should revise that

[hoary copper]

I had to change my display name

[spare cloud]

You can make a new channel bruen

[sharp viper]

i wonder who that could be 🤔 certainly not flowi

[spare cloud]

I have 2 nmow

and both can dislike the videos

[zenith cloak]

Flowi would never do that, can’t be him

[spare cloud]

you can have more than one channel on a google account

[viscid helm]

I'm not toxic

[hoary copper]

Oh I didnt know you could do that

[viscid helm]

idk why you would assume

such things

[lone junco]

that open is not as bad as the vid says. but def the slowest thing ive seen in a while.

[zenith cloak]

That was very uplifting and nontoxic flowi 👏🏻👏🏻

[quick talon]

he's watching his video while doing the opener

so he can remember

[sharp viper]

holy shit

[spare cloud]

You cant even follow the opener because he has like a 10 second break between each ability

[keen inlet]

what did I miss and who did I ban

[vernal adder]

that kb and tb synergy

[fervent beacon]

Ok I fixed it. Fuck lifting

[sharp viper]

sin has by far the slowest apm of all three rogue specs

[zenith cloak]

New sin rogue guide, best guide out there rn

[sharp viper]

but that is taking it to another level 🐌

[quick talon]

please pin the YT video

so i can get better parses

someday

[spare cloud]

Yeah

why is it not pinned yet

[zenith cloak]

LOL please pin I need it so I can learn how to play

[spare cloud]

He has 116 views on the video

ayyy lmao

[sharp viper]

he has keybinds in his video, so clicking can't explain why iiiiiiiiiiiit iiiiiiissss soooooooh slooooooow

[vernal adder]

we did it rh

[zenith cloak]

We’re gonna make him famous

[nimble tartan]

bullies

[quick talon]

Look at that rogue

she's a total noob

[zenith cloak]

Can anyone find out his guild members and maybe get their logs

[spare cloud]

Notter trolling on reddit

nice mod

[nimble tartan]

all of you are BULLIES

[quick talon]

😡

[zenith cloak]

I wanna see their dps lmao

[keen inlet]

stop bullying OMR

[gaunt moat]

trolling? i'm being POSITIVE

[quick talon]

STOP BULLY

[keen inlet]

all of you

[hoary copper]

omr?

[quick talon]

ömer

[spare cloud]

I mean you can just look at his charactername

its not that hard to find his guild

🤷

[keen inlet]

iWin, Lroy, Notter

cease your bullying of omr at once

[viscid helm]

Omr

please

[keen inlet]

he is a gentle soul

[viscid helm]

go away

[gaunt moat]

@nimble tartan i'm sorry

[nimble tartan]

you're all toxic!!!

[quick talon]

@nimble tartan sorry bud

[zenith cloak]

@nimble tartan I’m sorry

[quick talon]

big love

❤

[keen inlet]

Flowi Eeyore stop BULLYING

[zenith cloak]

Many hugs

[viscid helm]

https://puu.sh/zL5w2/0db10b66db.png

RH MOD BTW

[spare cloud]

Bullies other guy , can't find logs 🤔

[gaunt moat]

I spread positivity

[nimble tartan]

wow notter

that was the most toxic thing

[vernal adder]

posi vibes

[quick talon]

Not even playing the game

yet bullying on reddit

😡

[spare cloud]

Positivity in large amount

[nimble tartan]

u just playing with that guy thats worse

[sharp viper]

you spread alacrity, that is a STD for pirate cosplayers

[spare cloud]

is toxic as well

everything in large amounts is toxic

[quick talon]

now that intro really got me

[keen inlet]

KUTGW

Keep
Up
The
Good
Work

NOTTER APPROVED

[quick talon]

anyone up for some ERP in dala

i wanna be the bush guy tho

[spare cloud]

I'd rp with you

[lone junco]

Best Mog though.

[quick talon]

AHHHH

STRANGER DANGER

[shrewd oriole]

Wtf

[hoary copper]

Come to goldshire, we can RP

[shrewd oriole]

Was that video

[spare cloud]

OH GOD

[zenith cloak]

Can the theme be you teaching me how to play sin rogue?

[shrewd oriole]

That was so trás

Trash

Who made that

[quick talon]

Me

[spare cloud]

Oh god

hes on moonguard

[nimble tartan]

wags my tail

[viscid helm]

omr

stop

lmao

[quick talon]

Cant wait to go full ERP

with my vulpera

[vernal adder]

he probably cleaning jizz from his bellybutton as we speak

[zenith cloak]

LOL vulpera rogue erp

[spare cloud]

I like how hes using old 2pc

[brazen forge]

kisses your necky wecky ' w '

[spare cloud]

wtf

[quick talon]

????

[lone junco]

no where near as good as the Best rogue guide, World of RogueCraft.

[fervent beacon]

🙏 high five @gaunt moat , we're going to make this the new guide.

[spare cloud]

Guys can we take it to general

[nimble tartan]

yawns and stretches my body out

[sharp viper]

okay this went from a bad guide to alacrity to furry ERP

[gaunt moat]

you're all just jealous cause you're not gonna get the big youtube monies and he will with this awesome guide.

[strange python]

roguecraft 🍿

[sharp viper]

what the fuck is wrong with this discord

[strange python]

the reason i was on arthas

[keen inlet]

look

[quick talon]

-eats omr's ass-

[vernal adder]

Wonder what his Furzona is?