#assassination

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lone junco
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2.79 snd

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oy

astral sundial
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outlaw cheesing cleave or legit log?

shrewd oriole
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Legit log

lone junco
shrewd oriole
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Good rng on trinket

lost horizon
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^

lone junco
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55% crit on his melee

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as SND is huge

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UUUGEE

lost horizon
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Pantheon makes snd have big swings

astral sundial
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cool

shrewd oriole
astral sundial
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but also

shrewd oriole
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My best garothi isnโ€™t even that good

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Thatโ€™s rank 98

astral sundial
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can you seperate pantheon cleaves?

shrewd oriole
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94*

lone junco
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i can do it

shrewd oriole
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Is that loktark?

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Insane crit

astral sundial
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cuz it might overvalue it due to that extra hits

shrewd oriole
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Meanwhile I have 19k mastery

lone junco
shrewd oriole
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LUL

lone junco
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nah. its the KR #1

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Look at those sockets

shrewd oriole
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Ah

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Nice sockets lmao

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Fucking nuts

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Meanwhile I only have 3

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Rip

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Wonder whoโ€™s more rng

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Outlaw or assa

astral sundial
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sin for sure?

shrewd oriole
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Dunno what the average for pantheon is

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But 12% being a proc that requires 4 trinkets in your raid to proc

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Sounds like a lot of rng

lone junco
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ssn has a massive trinket

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ours is like 0.5 to 1.8 what ive seen

shrewd oriole
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Yeah ours is useless

brisk abyss
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Which WA you are using to have time left on rupture and garrot?

prime void
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I dont

astral sundial
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I use notters

brisk abyss
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then how you know there is less than 8 sec on rupture to refresh ? and 6sec on garrote ? for pandemics ?

serene hazel
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Ok, I have a question. Do you want to keep surge of toxins up all the time?

astral sundial
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the glow on pandemic is cute ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

prime void
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yeah you want SoT up as much as possible.

brisk abyss
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@astral sundial Notters WA become red when you have to refresh?

prime void
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And I made TMW's for it malth

astral sundial
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@brisk abyss they get a golden glow for garrote and rupture. couldn't figure out how to do it for envenom : .

brisk abyss
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@prime void TMW better than WA?

prime void
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no

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Whatever works for you is best

brisk abyss
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@astral sundial will try notter ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

gaunt moat
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i told you though :x
just look at the other WAs that glow, in the behavior tab

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well, actually not just that tab i suppose

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i think you also need to select the WA frame itself in the display tab

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i don't remember everything by heart, sorry :x

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just go over every tab and make sure it's the same

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(with relevant changes)

astral sundial
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ye I appreciate your help @gaunt moat , I just didn't even manage to find anything called "behavior" in the options and decided not the bother you with it anymore

gaunt moat
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maybe i'm confusing the name, it might be actions or conditions tab

hoary copper
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Dead channel

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I know! It's good that master looter is going away! Its a positive change for everyone

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ducks

astral sundial
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@gaunt moat I tried to check it and WA decided to disable itself (even tho it was working literally a second before, and is enabled on the addons menu..). I will try it again later when it sort itself out or I reinstall it

somber cipher
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OCEAN MAN

gaunt moat
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take me by the hand

safe matrix
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Lead me to the land

spare cloud
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that you understand

jovial kite
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THESE BISKITS

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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

spare cloud
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why did you destroy the lyric chain

zealous dew
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wiping on coven...

lone junco
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@jovial kite :praisethelorderrybody:

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:ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:

zealous dew
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what the heck was that

wintry socket
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Any tip for High Command?

prime void
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Kill the boss

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Want to be a bit more specific ?

wintry socket
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Do i dot adds?

fallow estuary
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Won the Argus Mount - god its so ugly but i still love

strange python
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dirty

civic palm
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RUP 1-2 dooders.

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Whirliebois.

brisk forge
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Something changed in sim today? :S Sim like 40k lower

civic palm
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Variance

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

brisk forge
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never been like that so dunno really

spare cloud
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They saw that Tisumi sims more than 2,3

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So they nerfed it

prime void
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Fuck that other dude sims for 2.4

wintry socket
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Do i FOK with two targets?

lone junco
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depends on crit

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if you have very high crit and run EP. then mut 2. if you have low crit and high mastery and play MP, then fok 2

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everyone foks at 3

wintry socket
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Got like 33%, no eoc, using the dogs trinket.

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190% mastery

lone junco
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unless you feel like editing the APL a bit, just fok on 2.

civic palm
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Yeah, and unless you are tracking your crit rate (due to their kinda being a threshold for CP generation), just FoK on 2+ targets.

wintry socket
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Ok, ty guys

lone junco
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Plus EP is really concerned with EP Rupture uptime on both. no time for lolly gagging fok flight times.

fierce solstice
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I don't know the reason but recently I have found myself being energy starved quite a bit, same gear same talents as before but a very noticeable drop in energy gain?

civic palm
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Yeah you forgot to apply your poisons.

fierce solstice
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Anyone got any idea why?

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Nah they were up

spare cloud
lone junco
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play 2p4p with high crit. all the E you need.

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Clip clip clip clip

fierce solstice
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I got 4pc shoulders and braces at 963 ilvl

spare cloud
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Yeah just get all the gear you need and you're good

civic palm
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You're not likely to just lose energy regen or feel starved on a whim.

lone junco
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alac is pretty gross.

spare cloud
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should be easy.

fierce solstice
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It's weird I thought aye a bug

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Maybe

dire spoke
civic palm
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You've probably just ascended to a higher state of perception and things just seem slower for you now.

fierce solstice
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Nah no weed today

civic palm
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Why would you need it in this empowered form?!

But on a more serious note, it's probably nothing.

fierce solstice
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Hope so

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I've never had to wait that long for a mutilate before :(

civic palm
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Poisons Applied, Bleeds Up, things will be fine.

fierce solstice
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Ikr but it's direct after opener when I'm looking to vanish

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Dwarven thx for insight ima do some normal see wat logs are saying

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Stupid auto correct lol

lone junco
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i mean, vendetta?

strange python
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no chance i can survive mythic garothi explosion with feint and 20% avoidance right

civic palm
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Nah just proc CD.

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ezpz

lone junco
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pay for bop

civic palm
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What else are you using CD for?

strange python
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fair enoug

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just cba running out lmao

civic palm
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You might be able to survive it with DC+Feint and walking back a LITTLE.

lone junco
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If it isnt in your exang rotation, you can run out and back and not miss a tick

civic palm
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To scale the damage down a little.

floral loom
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What's the best M+ for iron relics? VOTW?

prime void
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tf kind of ? is that

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go look at the dungeon journal

lone junco
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@prime void tbh. I think my rings are prob too good and bracer too bad to use insig boot.

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I'll give it a go tonight tho.

prime void
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:(((

lone junco
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That 960 nibbler isn't getting proper pwn tho.

prime void
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truth

lone junco
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My exang doesn't care about it.

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Is Tich still full?

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Do you ever get login que

prime void
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naw no ques

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new xpacs are rouuuuuugh rthough

strange python
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@lone junco whats your hp sitting at

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im like 5.8 in bleed 6.4 in poison or some big diff

prime void
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t20 feels bad

strange python
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doing 2.1 at 955 ish feels good tho

vapid moth
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well. i just played with the rudest M+ group since i started playing M+

lone junco
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2.1 is nice.

vapid moth
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2.1? at 955? better than me smh.

strange python
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i mean i have to get good bota for 2.1 but nobody needs to know that

plain thistle
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well, if you think about I can get 4M+ dps easily, I just need to proc 2-3 poison bomb every toxic blade ๐Ÿคท

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and during shoulder AND WRIST, 100% poison bomb uptime

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๐Ÿ˜‚

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the dream

vapid moth
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i dont get how yall can not like seat

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tell me in what other dungeon you can pull a 20mill envenom

uneven quartz
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Hi, new to the discord channel, curious of how much mastery I should have compared to critical strike. Sill gearing at the moment. Toon:

plain thistle
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you should sim yourself, no magic number

cursive dagger
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^

uneven quartz
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K, Raidbots

plain thistle
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yup

uneven quartz
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K will do, talents look correct?

plain thistle
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geneally speaking yes, but tallents change with different build and legendaries

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like with shoulder you use nightstalker and not subterfuge, or with alacrity or exsanguinate build you dont use master poisoner

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and other things

lone junco
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@prime void def hit 50% crit flat. + dogs

uneven quartz
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Ok, I will read the guide, I'm due to get a Leg. tommorow.

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Also, is there a talent selection for heavy AOE, HC, Eonar, etc

vapid moth
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i was gonna invite you to raid with me cause all the loot i get is useless then i saw horde :/

plain thistle
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I think they dont cover AoE, eonar , etc because it doesnt change that much. only thing I like to do in dungeon is always use nightstalker just because garroting AoE packs usually is a dps loss

uneven quartz
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Ok.

vapid moth
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you honestly only need 1 bleed for 3+ targets for the guaranteed energy

plain thistle
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your talents is very likely to never change for single target or AoE, with the exception of NS vs SUBT

vapid moth
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with 4 set anyway

uneven quartz
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K, I raid H. every Sat. at 6. So gear will come quickly

rose copper
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Hi guys I have a real problem: 950 ilvl and 1.1m dps >.< can somebody help me witt linking me a guide or something?

prime void
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top of discord

lone junco
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50/115 is prob not gonna work out

prime void
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:0

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interesting stats

vapid moth
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@rose copper ghost link your wowlogs profile

lone junco
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running weights, cause it was a loss out of the gate

rose copper
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Dont have it right now >.<

lone junco
vapid moth
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if youve done any kind of raiding you have it.

rose copper
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I am main sub i've tried assa

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only at imon

devout temple
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Anyone here stick with Sin even in M+? and never changes?

quick talon
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ye

turbid dawn
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does anyone have a weak aura for announcing poison bomb? xd

sharp viper
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only TMW

strange python
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they're easy to make

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mine doesnt /s anything but it says it in my chatbox

spare cloud
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Hello everyone, new to the channel. I was wondering if there is a weakaura for /y poison bomb so annoying tanks dont move mobs out of it all the time?

zealous dew
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yes

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./cast Rupture
/s Praying hard

lone junco
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moving on up

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1.99 is better

zealous dew
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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no execute, no party!

lone junco
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i do love me some bracers

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exang is still 25k up from that.

zealous dew
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guy in my nl got 985 C/m neck from that

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pffffffffffffff

spare cloud
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did you insult him?

sharp viper
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only reasonable option

devout temple
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so some of you are hardcore asssination players, dont switch to sub?

spare cloud
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No

strange python
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we all are subs

lone junco
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50% is nice.

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All the mut crits.

strange python
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bleed on mythic eonar feels like suffering

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i will say that

lone junco
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that is simc 74% mutcrit

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

spare cloud
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where the fuck is the artifact forge in the warlock orderhall

sharp viper
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at the top of the path in front of fel lava

fervent beacon
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Let me guess, you boosted a lock.

safe matrix
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Well duh

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He plays rogue

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So of course he'd go and lockpick

spare cloud
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No I didn't

still pewter
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Did you guys know, The Cloak is really good for sin

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Blizzard said so

tranquil birch
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that real?

turbid harbor
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same tier as poison bomb on alpha atm

tranquil birch
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crimson tempt gone or?

turbid harbor
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will be very good with master assassin talent if they give fok enough base value

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crimson tempest is on the same tier too

still pewter
tranquil birch
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oh boy

strange python
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heres to hoping crimson temp is the best one in that row because man the anim is cool

turbid harbor
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doesn't vanish have 40s cd as well on alpha?

warm parcel
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wat

still pewter
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Crimson temp is used where youre constant moving.

warm parcel
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no lol

still pewter
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PB for static boss

turbid harbor
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o nvm then

tranquil birch
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So not real?

strange python
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also having to talent into dispatch is kinda aids

still pewter
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Whats not real

turbid harbor
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i was told vanish had 40s cd

still pewter
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@tranquil birch

turbid harbor
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but it doesn't

still pewter
tranquil birch
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Idk why weak said no

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oh for vanish

still pewter
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He said no to 40sec vanish

tranquil birch
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oh ok

turbid harbor
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so we have mfd+pbomb or master assassin and hidden blades

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or crimson tempest

still pewter
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MFD is gone

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Only on Outlaw

turbid harbor
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depending on what is better

warm parcel
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its right there

turbid harbor
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mfd is lvl 45

warm parcel
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on the very pic you linked

still pewter
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Wait, What the fuck

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Why is it a 45 talent

warm parcel
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cause it serves as a cp talent

still pewter
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Thats all specs too

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Outlaw gets elaborate planning

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๐Ÿค”

warm parcel
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Thats 99% placeholder

slim estuary
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!trinkets

chrome tuskBOT
daring gazelle
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whats my ideal crit chacne?

plain thistle
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there is no magic number

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just sim yourself ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

gilded lark
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100%

still pewter
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220%

plain thistle
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๐Ÿค”

onyx falcon
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lul "totally not weAk"

plain thistle
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yeah, the blue name doesn't give it away ๐Ÿค”

quick talon
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special snowflake rank

strange python
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alac on imonar? or nah

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timing is weird for exs

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and i could use the hp

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toxic blade and venom rush on the same row ๐Ÿค”

plain thistle
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the problem with boots and/or alacrity for immonar is that if your group has a decent dps, you will not get 2 vendetas per phase

strange python
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decent dps but its only their 2nd kill. gonna try boots this pull

plain thistle
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yeah, I used boots for first and second kill, but after that it wasnt worth it

strange python
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exsang timers are kinda cucking me because im holding a combo for like 14 or so seconds

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playing poison over bleed atm just for the hp aswell

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bigger cushion

devout temple
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so uhh why hidden blades was given to SIN?

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is energy regen in bfa higher?

devout radish
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!trinkets

chrome tuskBOT
devout temple
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bfa asssassination seems intersting

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3 aoe in 100 tier

strange python
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@lone junco

safe matrix
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doesnt exsang run MP?

strange python
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nope, at least not me

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mp sims like 40k lwoer

fervent beacon
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Why would you run MP when EP buff your bleed?

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๐Ÿค”

plain thistle
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and low mastery

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both dont favor MP

safe matrix
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I could've sworn I saw someone else run MP

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for exsang

fervent beacon
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if their mastery is high enough, might be better

safe matrix
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I don't play exsang so I wouldnt know ๐Ÿคท

lone junco
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@strange python you almost caught up. What's your ilvl with that?

strange python
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959

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got a 960 PK neck so that really helped

lone junco
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ah.

steep obsidian
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lol the lego cloak and the hidden blades talent both stack sub is going to have broken burst for those few weeks in the pre patch if it stays that way

lone junco
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I havent thought about prepatch much.

steep obsidian
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they are always wonky i guess

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but this is going to be funny

lone junco
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prepatch bota on CT will be nice.

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if it procs.

steep obsidian
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i guess you lose dfa but still

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heh

lone junco
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10sec alignment over 14sec

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will be interesting to have haste stacked with shoulders.

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stealth NS CT

strange python
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i have been making sure to keep my haste gear just for kicks

steep obsidian
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SEPHUZ BIS

strange python
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sephuz exsang

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hmmm

fervent beacon
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guis

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what do i need to know for vari mythic

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๐Ÿ‘€

tawdry pine
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dont shadowstep the boss, shadowstep to someone in raid if you soak the mark

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theres a chance when he turns to cast youll land on the tanks

vagrant mural
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is there any dr for mastery? i am at 163% and 30% crit?

dense yew
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Stop when you get 250%

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Then get some more

tawdry pine
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i like to go into the soak with full cp too so if you get a pb the add goes poof

magic laurel
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do these stats sound good to you guys- 30% crit, 4% haste, 218% mastery, 7% vers, and 5% avoid

astral sundial
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what's not to like

civic palm
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Those stats sound like stats that are found on Assassination Rogues.

lone junco
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I linked my Archimonde Cutting edge. guess people really dont check your links

steep obsidian
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lol

wise frigate
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I linked an Imperator CE one time and got invited.

lone junco
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turns out they didnt know the diff. this is a shit show. heroic antorus pug. almost wiped on garothi

wise frigate
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So like most "AotC only" groups.

astral sundial
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meh could be they just thought archimonde cutting edge is good eonugh. celestial defender still gets me invites and I didn't raid for years

young dagger
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im out world questing. tryin to stack up my order hall resources since i get at least 300 per wq regardless of what the reward is. and i notice i have to keep re applying my posions. anyone know why they keep falling off? i know it hasn't been a few hours even and ive re applied like 5 times

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poisons*

strange python
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cant use mythic t21 cloak bc my t20 pieces still suck

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rip

lone junco
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rip indeed

strange python
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we've been carryin KJ's but no luck with avatar dorpping shoulders

rain sigil
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im looking at the guide site

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for those without shoulders int he opener it says exsang

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anyone know what that is referring to?

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new rogue here

strange python
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thats for a different spec, if you dont have shoulders there is an opener inbetween for you

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exsang is a spec that relies on getting big ruptures via exsanguinate instead of toxic blade.

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re: bleedbois

rain sigil
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gotcha

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im running nightsalker and i have the talent ring so i have both deeper strat and vigor

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and i am not using subterfuge

civic palm
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ok

mighty gull
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hi question for everyone or anyone who can answer. havent played my rogue in quite awhile 7+ years just got him to 110 and i'm looking at the rotation for assassnation Opener without shoulders [Subterfuge on ravenholdt.net it says to use vanish when garrote is at pandemic what exactly is pandemic some sort of debuff ?

civic palm
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Pandemic is in the guide in the Questions section at the end.

gaunt moat
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It's a nickname for a mechanic. it means extending debuffs.

civic palm
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Mmmm, this silence reminds me of all the tech forums/online question and answer banks where someone;

Hey I have a problem

endless discussions

Oh thanks but I fixed it!

young dagger
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i fucking hate those

civic palm
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They don't even mention what post helped, just that everything is good now thanks! /fucksOffForever

dire spoke
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Thank you mize

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You really helped

zealous dew
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mmmm fish

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anyone knows how to filter debuff on elvui boss frames to show your own debuffs only ?

wise frigate
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It's a Filter thing under Unit Frames > Target Frame/Boss Frame > Debuffs. Don't remember off the top of my head, but pretty sure only debuff filters I run are Personal and Boss.

zealous dew
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blocknonpersonal right ?

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then whitelist for the ones you want

wise frigate
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Jk only Filter I have active is personal.

zealous dew
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same, but I can still see others

astral sundial
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Hey @gaunt moat , I tried again to put glow on envenom pandemic and found the tab your were talking about (conditions, and in there each tab separate under "differences" ) and I noticed rupture is simply tagged to glow at 7.2 seconds - doesn't that means that by following it I waste al lot of uptime on 4 cp ruptures?

gaunt moat
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I true i didn't make it work in a "smart" way.
but do you waste a lot? nah.

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with 4CP pandemic is at 6 seconds

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sometimes i rupture even at 9 seconds, so like... don't sweat it too much

astral sundial
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I guess most times it won't matter since I generally won't refresh rupture immediately on pandemic, but would it take me a lot of work to separate the 4cp and 5 cp ruptures (while they are still sharing the same window in my UI?). mainly asking cuz if I want to pandemic for envenom I am pretty sure it's much more relevant for it

gaunt moat
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yes. cause it's not as simple as "check debuff duration"

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you need to save a variable of how many CPs you used for that finisher FOR THAT MOB.

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so if you switch between targets

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it will still be correct

astral sundial
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I assumed 4 cp envenom and 5 cp envenom have diffrent spell ID

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but I have no clue about this

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so might just be talking nonsense

gaunt moat
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it's a lot of work for something this unimportant in my eyes

astral sundial
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envenom is self buff no?

safe matrix
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Ye something I need to get better at is refreshing rupture

gaunt moat
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nope, same spell IDs, that's the issue

safe matrix
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Yeah it is

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Self buff

gaunt moat
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(i'm talking about rupture btw)

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for envenom it should be simpler

safe matrix
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I am pretty bad about the rupture pandemic window, I always think "oh rupture has 8 seconds and envenom is falling off in 5, better refresh envenombefore rupture" >.<

gaunt moat
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but since i never really played around envenom, didn't really think it's needed to make it glow

safe matrix
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Cause it's the shorter duration

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And I'm dum ._.

gaunt moat
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depending on cooldowns coming off, that's usually what you sohuld do liavre, so you're doing fine

safe matrix
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Yeah but then I never have the energy to get the points before rupture drops

astral sundial
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well during KB and TB I have trouble keeping both envenom and SoT up if Idon't try to pandemic it (could have to do with my very low crit)

safe matrix
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I also need to be better about pooling

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I think my toxic blades could be better

gaunt moat
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i see, well in that point you either just refresh above pandemic (which is not the end of the world, really) if you're at full energy
or pool some energy.

safe matrix
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Yeah it's just one of those smaller things I gotta work on

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Also I gotta get better gear

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Cause my stats are shite

astral sundial
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@gaunt moat not sure if your last answer was to Liavre or me :X

gaunt moat
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for liavre

astral sundial
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so when you say you don't track envenom, you mean you just track SoT and assume envenom will be up enough if you do?

gaunt moat
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i do track envenom, it's in the WAs
i just don't make it glow

#

but yeah i don't really play around envenom

safe matrix
#

What do you mean by the last statement there

#

Like you don't really prioritize refreshing it or something?

gaunt moat
#

he wants to make envenom glow to refresh envenom only at pandemic time for envenom

safe matrix
#

Except in like kb windows

#

Ah

#

Meh

#

Just learn what pandemic time is and refresh it then

#

It'll just take a bit of practice

astral sundial
#

well I generaly refresh at 2 seconds

safe matrix
#

I'd probably go lower tbh

astral sundial
#

but easier if it glows, and if I can separate 4cp and 5 cp ones

safe matrix
#

Because you get the same amount of time per rupture cast

#

Err envenom

#

Just pandemic makes refreshing have leeway ๐Ÿคท

#

You can just think of refreshing at low pandemic as moving time from the new buff to the old buff

#

And vice versa

astral sundial
#

well I don't refresh at pandemic just becuz

#

I do that to keep both SoT and envenom up

#

so I can choose if to refresh envenom or rupture for example

jovial kite
#

@safe matrix play exsang if you want to train your pandemic management ๐Ÿ˜‰

safe matrix
#

Nah it's just envenom messes with me

#

Cause it's so short duration

jovial kite
#

youll need to 'foresee' two refreshes. one after an exsang, based on exsang cd to get pandemic at the halfway, then another one that is on pandemic as exsang comes upp

safe matrix
#

And I don't think I have the crit to get back up to 4-5 points for a rupture refresh without going energy starved

#

Or is a 3 point or so rupture refresh fine?

jovial kite
#

if you aim for env uptime and dont lose anything down the road

safe matrix
#

Cause rupture is linear per point right?

#

It'll always do the same dps

jovial kite
#

yeah

#

but youll need to refresh it sooner

#

so no fault in refreshing at 3 if you dont lose anything 20 sec later

safe matrix
#

Yeah, but I should probably do some 3 pt refreshes so it doesn't fall off

jovial kite
#

its a gamble

#

on mut crits

safe matrix
#

Is 32% low?

jovial kite
#

depends on how you like to play :p

safe matrix
#

Also my mastery is only 160

#

But my vers is 18% haHAA

strange python
#

close to my bleed stats

#

38 crit tho

#

and 14vers

safe matrix
#

I have my 8% haste

#

To smooth out the rotation

strange python
#

in my best gear i have like 3k haste, feelsbad

#

tier pieces with haste are loathsome

jovial kite
#

@safe matrix you mean to scuff your dps? ๐Ÿ˜„

safe matrix
#

Dude I'm 970 and I only sim at 2.1m

#

Gonna kms

#

My relics are shit too

jovial kite
#

im 971 and sim 2.36

safe matrix
#

I don't have a single MAss

#

And I think I only have like one MAlch

#

I don't even know dude

#

I can't even

dire spoke
#

complaining about gear, sims 2.1 anyway thinky

#

I can't even sim 2.2 with 970

#
  • 3 MAss
safe matrix
#

Yeah but with proper optimization I should be much higher

steep obsidian
#

2.36 is pretty nuts must have a lot of sockets

jovial kite
#

0

safe matrix
#

Good relics and good stat distribution probs

dire spoke
#

slack just wears BiS heHEE

jovial kite
#

i dont play the worst build which is mp tb LUL

safe matrix
#

Yeah you're right

#

I should switch to alacrity

jovial kite
#

alac is better 980

#

than tb

safe matrix
#

Is anyone even 980 worldwide yet?

jovial kite
#

many tb players are 980

#

still sim less than me LUL

humble crane
#

Mm yeah I'm only 2.25 at 972. Only have 190% mastery though

astral sundial
#

argus trinket does that

#

high IL low stats

jovial kite
#

if ur 980, argus trinket is only 20 ilvls above the average

#

out of 15 slots it only accounts to 1.2 ilvls

dire spoke
#

oh shite it's snowing

astral sundial
#

yes, but put amanthul's there

#

suddenly stats are high and same IL

gaunt moat
#

i think there was another alpha invite wave
some random people i know got invites now

steep obsidian
#

yeh

lament pawn
#

Guys do i enchant my rings based on my primary stat from siming myself? Is it mastery everytime?

steep obsidian
#

hopefully you can queue for a dungeon now without having to wait for 2 hours

astral sundial
#

in raidbots you have an option in "top gear" to choose which enchants and gems you are using

lament pawn
#

Got it

zealous dew
#

slagg i tried your cloak 30 then swap etc, worked decently in LK

#

close to 4m overall

dire spoke
jovial kite
#

@zealous dew ofc it works ๐Ÿ˜„

#

its worth even at 15 stacks

#

was running ukara.. a prot pally joined

#

he said hes here for eoc

#

i said like we all

#

then he said wait why you need eoc and linked me my 970 ssf

#

i said 955 eoc is better than 970 ssf

#

he said

#

nah

lost horizon
#

No u

#

I remember grinding for EOC on my prot pally

#

Fuck tanking for all pug groups

astral sundial
#

slag just had this discussion yd night

#

for almost everyone 970 ssf will actually sim higher then 955 eoc

jovial kite
#

why would i be concerned for what is best for others

#

just like some fuckwit shouldnt be concerned to what is best for me

#

๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟ

astral sundial
#

hey if you don't wanna talk about it then just don't ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

jovial kite
#

i mean he implied he knows better than me ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฟ

strange python
#

so basicly what ssf is better than 940 eoc?

jovial kite
#

sim yourself

#

depends on ur stats and build

amber sleet
#

my 945 eoc is better than my 965 ssf

strange python
#

i think there is alot of switching in antorus

jovial kite
#

you can bypass most switching and losing stacks with mousover macros

#

you can bind mutilate envenom rupture and garrote to mousover

#

so you never lose stacks while effectively cleaving

astral sundial
#

don't you target wrong stuff by mistake wtih it?

jovial kite
#

no

#

you dont target anything with mousover

astral sundial
#

I mean

jovial kite
#

just hover your mouse

astral sundial
#

when you actually want to hit your target but your mouse pointer is on some random shit by mistake

jovial kite
#

well LUL

#

thats a player issue

#

takes some getting used to ofc

#

but like

#

i use mousover as shiftmod

#

so mistakes like that dont happen

strange python
#

i am still thinking if i should farm the titanforge one since i have the 940 version

#

if its worth it

dark parcel
#

Is it worth holding TB for Kingsbane if one of both is almost off CD? Also, does rogue still play into pooling Surge of Toxins?

jovial kite
#

955 eoc > 970 ssf for me. if i happened to get a 965 eoc i would never need to switch trinkets again

astral sundial
#

well

#

untill your gear scales up and makes ssf better again ๐Ÿ˜›

jovial kite
#

based on my sims that wont ever happen

#

even at 980+

astral sundial
#

wow

jovial kite
#

but do note i play exsang

#

where crit > all

strange python
#

i saw 980 eoc

#

...

astral sundial
#

what about CoF at some point?

jovial kite
#

3 x ma + boots make cof moot

#

i have 45 sec vendetta already

strange python
#

so you play boots wrist?

jovial kite
#

dropping vendetta cd any more would be negative dps since you always exsang with vendetta

#

t20 2p boot wrist

dark parcel
#

bleed build still plays 4-2 set? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

astral sundial
#

what IL your t20 is?

jovial kite
#

960

astral sundial
#

well shit

#

good for you ๐Ÿ˜„

jovial kite
#

@dark parcel t20 2p t21 4p

dark parcel
#

ye

#

interesting

#

doesn't sim high for me compared to poison build, running 16k mastery

astral sundial
#

I guess if you have 960 t20

jovial kite
#

well you need that t20 and 3x ma

astral sundial
#

you would even use it in poison

jovial kite
#

i do

dark parcel
#

makes sense, my T20 is 930ish

astral sundial
#

do you have some logs I can peak at?

lucid brook
#

Is this spec sorta like Afflock where you just 6-point dot and then walk away to the next mob?

dark parcel
#

Is it worth holding TB for Kingsbane if one of both is almost off CD, or is it a dps loss due to the impact Deadly Poison has? Also, does rogue still play into pooling Surge of Toxins?

dire spoke
#

@dark parcel you want to hold TB for a max. of ~5s - mostly you have every third TB aligning with KB ... if you can clip SoT without stressing your rotation go for it - most importantly you clip it during KB as it modifies its base ticks

amber sleet
#

Im always curious if I should try to clip SoT or t21 4piece buff

#

Im not sure which one sims the highest

dark parcel
#

thanks, that answers it, i can clip SoT without issues if i pool, looks good, you're not spamming your keys but ye

dire spoke
#

If you get lots of 4CP it's not an issue, but don't overthink it with pooling to much - likely can get a loss aswell

dark parcel
#

on 3 CB's i use FoK

#

to keep my clip

dire spoke
#

don't

dark parcel
#

not worth at all?

amber sleet
#

U can FoK at 3 CB if u have 5 PK relics

astral sundial
#

maybe if you have poisoned knived relic : /

amber sleet
#

otherwise its a loss

#

I have 5 PK relics, so i FoK at 3

dark parcel
#

i have 1 PK relic

amber sleet
#

Which is kinda nice, to keep clipping SoT

#

1 PK relic = 5 PK traits

#

That's what u mean, right?

#

You have a total of 5 PK traits

dark parcel
#

ah ye

amber sleet
#

Then

#

U should FoK at 3 CB

#

Or atleast u can

dark parcel
#

to keep the clip, yeah feels good ๐Ÿ˜„

amber sleet
#

Ye

dark parcel
#

guess i won't be getting rid of my shadow relic then

amber sleet
#

Well it's a DPS increase to get rid of the PK relic

#

With something like BB or Malch

#

I'm actively hunting for a new Iron relic to get rid of my PK

#

But untill then, im using fok on 3 CB

dark parcel
#

shouldn't you go for Master Alchemist or Master Assasin?

amber sleet
#

Yes

dark parcel
#

but BB or Malch still -> PK?

amber sleet
#

But BB sims higher than Master Assassin for me, cuz i only have 1 NA

#

MA*

#

2nd MA relic is worthless

#

but 3rd is big

dark parcel
#

rly?

amber sleet
#

Yea

dark parcel
#

Balanced Blades right?

amber sleet
#

Yup

dark parcel
#

whats your crit %

amber sleet
#

28%

dark parcel
#

mm

#

ok

#

i'll keep that in mind, always sim ๐Ÿ˜„

amber sleet
#

U can see here

#

2nd MA relic is worthless

#

Only 1st and 3rd give a dps increase

dark parcel
#

hmm

amber sleet
#

But sim youself

dark parcel
#

yeah

amber sleet
#

Might depend on stats and stuff

dark parcel
#

think Master Alch is still biggest increase due to my mastery (16k), but ye will sim

dire spoke
#

check out herodamage and remember to pick your build and lego comp

amber sleet
#

Yup, Malch is highest for me aswell

dark parcel
#

btw, does any of you high good Angerboda is for Sin? ๐Ÿ˜„ It feels like "decent", but i have a 970 one, so it just sims high

dire spoke
#

check out herodamage and remember to pick your build and lego comp

#

check out herodamage and remember to pick your build and lego comp

#

check out herodamage and remember to pick your build and lego comp

dark parcel
#

does build include trinkets? ๐Ÿค”

steep obsidian
#

i wouldnt use it over a good stat stick or dogs trinket but it is a little bit better then what it sims

#

coz of the whole proc on death thing its quite strong on argus at least

amber sleet
#

Wait what

#

Does it proc on death?

dire spoke
#

yes

#

since always

amber sleet
#

What do you mean proc on death?

#

Like when ur target dies?

dire spoke
#

Like ret buff

amber sleet
#

Oh wtffff

#

REALLY?!

dire spoke
#

no

gilded lark
#

boda procs on party/raid death

dark parcel
#

oh shit

amber sleet
#

๐Ÿ‘ฟ

dark parcel
#

my guild sucks, that's why!!! MIND BLOWN

#

thanks for the help guys

jovial kite
zealous dew
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

jovial kite
#

idm though

#

watching dota

zealous dew
#

Got hc shoulders on lock

#

50 haste in aoe gear

sharp viper
#

do i use toxic blade on cooldown?

zealous dew
#

Don't use it .you might break it

gilded lark
#

toxic leaf

lethal heart
#

everyone here uses alacrity so yo know

terse rune
#

is it more important to keep up sot or envenom buff? dmg wise

plain thistle
#

answer that notter

gaunt moat
#

I don't even know how to tackle that question... envenom refreshes SoT...

gilded lark
north basin
#

how do i sim others from bnet ? coz when i load characters it telling me - no crucible data availbile

gaunt moat
#

blizzard's armory doesn't have crucible data. so you can't.

#

well, you can, just not with crucible data

still pewter
#

Any theroys for bfa build for starter assassin?

#

We looking at bleeds?

north basin
#

but some characters have crucible data when iam loading em

#

and some not. why so

spare cloud
#

Still cant realmtransfer my warrior REEE

dire spoke
#

๐Ÿ‘€

zealous dew
#

warrior ๐Ÿ˜„

manic vigil
#

Execute gachiGASM

spare cloud
#

weeb

dire spoke
#

saber best grill

manic vigil
spare cloud
manic vigil
#

Wow it's wild in here toda.... ResidentSleeper

#

Are yall praising our lord and savior alacrity btw?

#

I'm so glad Don Jose showed us the light

#

If you have any questions make sure to contact him

spare cloud
rain pewter
#

Slaggjack?

#

More like slackerjacker

spare cloud
#

Slackerjerker

rain pewter
#

still playing rogue in 2017

#

3018

#

2018***

spare cloud
#

Nice

rain pewter
#

thought everyone was a warlock by now

zealous dew
#

nice try

manic vigil
#

I got one

#

And I like it, not even ashamed

zealous dew
#

I got one and I suck at it, more than at rogue

warm parcel
#

I mean...

shrewd oriole
#

Our destro lock was actually poppin off this week

spare cloud
#

I am equipping a warlock right now.

rain pewter
#

@warm parcel ur late to the party

shrewd oriole
#

He got a great parse on PK

warm parcel
#

You can fuck off plebaris

shrewd oriole
#

P nutty

warm parcel
#

1v1

spare cloud
#

not really hard to parse against 1000 other people

#

of whomst'd've 995 are normal plebs who never watched a guide

dire spoke
#

๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿป ranged

spare cloud
#

feelsclickerman

dire spoke
#

shit, I picked up ToS mission with max rolls

spare cloud
#

bonusroll on felhounds quickly

#

for good trinket

echo estuary
#

Romans wiped because plebs were in abundance

shrewd oriole
#

1867 actually ๐Ÿ˜ 

spare cloud
#

Sorry that i lowkey flamed your destruction warlock.

#

nice log btw tom

echo estuary
#

99% thats sick

shrewd oriole
#

orb runnign ok ๐Ÿ˜ 

spare cloud
#

I have to do that too

shrewd oriole
#

all 3?

plain thistle
#

wtf tom

echo estuary
#

looks like that ww needs to stop carrying plebs and find a guild on his level

spare cloud
#

Yes

plain thistle
#

thats a shit log

shrewd oriole
#

whats ur uptime

#

I save cds for adds as well

#

xd

#

I dont vendetta on the opener

spare cloud
#

Okay thats poor

#

๐Ÿ˜ƒ

shrewd oriole
#

I'm asked to

#

:/

plain thistle
#

full speed โ™ฟ right there

shrewd oriole
#

never forget

#

@spare cloud whats ur uptime on the boss

#

running orbs

manic vigil
#

Tom a team player and not a parse whore PogChamp

spare cloud
#

Idk

#

you lose like 15 seconds every time

#

so around 45 seconds less

shrewd oriole
#

I lose a lot more dude

#

lmao

spare cloud
#

I mean you stay up on the add anyways

#

so thats not really uptime loss

shrewd oriole
#

yeah but before hand you gotta go get the orb

#

idk

spare cloud
#

yeah its like 15 seconds wtf

shrewd oriole
#

I casted 1 vendetta on the boss

spare cloud
#

You dont have to run at 100% for first orb

shrewd oriole
#

yeah, I run at 96

spare cloud
#

lmao

#

I run at like 92

shrewd oriole
#

nah

#

that's too low for us

#

they'd be waiting for a while

#

this strat makes it harsher on me but nicer on the people going into portals imo

#

then I run red -> shadow

#

when I reach shadow the boss is around 70%

#

so I chill until 66

#

at 66 I grab the shadow orb

turbid harbor
#

we just have healers do it

shrewd oriole
#

run to poison

spare cloud
#

On second I have to run early too

#

because we got a shitty boss positioning where if I run at like 64-63

shrewd oriole
#

yeah, I dont touch the boss between opener and poison add dying tho

spare cloud
#

i come down and the world explosion thing is right there

#

happened once

shrewd oriole
#

and then after poison go boss till 30%

#

at 30 lust and go up on the shadow dude

spare cloud
#

Ahh havent done barrels of fun wq in a long time

shrewd oriole
#

see that

#

45 seconds of not hitting anything

#

lol

spare cloud
#

teamplayer

shrewd oriole
#

it's cancer

#

idk why healer cant run fire orb

spare cloud
#

because they suck

#

probably

#

you just take them down anyways

#

after you kill fire add

#

so not really a big loss

shrewd oriole
#

that's what I'm saying

#

I take it down, run it to shadow

#

and then just afk @ shadow

#

for 4%

turbid harbor
#

ya we have healers run every orb

spare cloud
#

What

turbid harbor
#

ive never been downstairs though

#

had to go up for every mini boss

shrewd oriole
#

can log without being downstairs tbh

#

cant log doing orbs imo

turbid harbor
#

sucks to leave boss at 30% with lust

shrewd oriole
#

yeah

#

true

turbid harbor
#

but otherwise yea

shrewd oriole
#

@spare cloud wait ill make u a drawing

#

@spare cloud

spare cloud
#

Why dont you just

#

leave the fire orb down and go on boss

#

for the 4%

#

and just take it with you when shadow add is up

manic vigil
#

Picture time!

shrewd oriole
#

cuz it's not worth it

#

by the time I'm down and on the boss

#

I have to go up again

spare cloud
#

4% seems worth it

shrewd oriole
#

LOL

spare cloud
#

Like

#

why do you run to fire

#

at that time

#

Oh wait

#

what the fuck

#

are your timings

#

they are messed up

shrewd oriole
#

no?

#

why wouldnt you run fire then

spare cloud
#

Not your timings

#

your raids timings

shrewd oriole
#

whatcha mean

spare cloud
#

I have like 25 seconds or so on boss after we kill fire

shrewd oriole
#

nice shit dps

spare cloud
#

No we just kill the top add fast

shrewd oriole
#

we only send 5 people up

spare cloud
#

we only keep like 6 down

#

lmao

manic vigil
shrewd oriole
#

yeah exactly

#

theres the difference

spare cloud
#

Shit timings roflmao

shrewd oriole
#

it's not shit if youre not running orbs lol

spare cloud
#

true your monks doing pretty well

#

he should run orbs next time

shrewd oriole
strange python
#

unimatrix

#

pogCHAMP

spare cloud
#

well you will probably have no add dmg

shrewd oriole
#

whatcha mean

#

oh

#

yeah

spare cloud
#

When monk runs

shrewd oriole
#

ye ye got it

spare cloud
#

I keep flying into alliance enclave FeelsAffMan

shrewd oriole
spare cloud
#

what is that other monk doing

#

does he have to go up

shrewd oriole
#

nah

#

he's bad

#

LOL

#

or rather

#

Kamikaza is insane

spare cloud
#

I wonder how it feels to get stomped by one guy in the raid 24/7

shrewd oriole
#

and monkemchi is mehยด

#

you mean like u and tyra

spare cloud
#

I'm doing fine with my gear compared to his

#

Also I just recently rerolled rogue

echo estuary
#

is that ww on a payroll to boost? xd

shrewd oriole
#

imagine how emasculated

#

that monk feels

#

or here

spare cloud
#

well immonar is just luck

shrewd oriole
#

fine

echo estuary
#

that ww is performing consistently how is it luck xd

spare cloud
#

for rogue it is.

shrewd oriole
#

~what about here

spare cloud
#

I know obviously kami is way better

shrewd oriole
#

and here

spare cloud
#

thats what I said in the beginning

#

lul

shrewd oriole
#

first one was garothi

#

second KG

#

Monkeem is just not as good

#

monk is p consistent spec

manic vigil
#

Why doesn't he teach the other one? Probably keeps feeding him bs to look better himself. A guild full of sociopaths indeed

north basin
#

indeed

spare cloud
#

Why would you teach someone whos most likely not willing to accept the help

north basin
#

he just wana be n1 in his guild ego

spare cloud
#

its like the kids in school who dont want to do math

manic vigil
#

How is that your starting premise troph

#

Wow

echo estuary
#

its not his job to be a mentor lol, just because they share guilds?

spare cloud
#

Ego in a world 250 guild or smth

north basin
#

why not.

#

ego exist even in top 200000 wordl

manic vigil
#

You guys are dicks

spare cloud
#

Thats like paying a whore and proudly saying you lost your virginity

shrewd oriole
#

LOL

#

dunno

#

monkeem is probs gonna fail his trial

north basin
#

they prolly dont even speak with eachover.

shrewd oriole
#

not sad about it tbh

#

never heard him speak on disc

spare cloud
#

Probably because hes busy crying while looking at details

#

doesnt want you to hear the whimps

manic vigil
#

Isn't that sentiment how you guys make your gold in wow? Selling illusions of achievement

echo estuary
#

i prefer hookers, straight to the point and no bullshit

shrewd oriole
#

@manic vigil that was deep

spare cloud
#

tbh if I was working full time and wanted to collect mounts or smth

#

I would buy as well

#

๐Ÿคท

#

Its just simple capitalism

#

Like most of the people buying stuff like that got their money from flipping shit in the auction house

#

not the most clean method to make money

shrewd oriole
#

dude wtf

#

I got something I didnt order

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on top of what I ordered

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maybe it was an offer

spare cloud
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send it back like good guy unimatrix would do

shrewd oriole
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yday

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I had such a chad moment

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that I fully regretted

manic vigil
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Uncalled for

spare cloud
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Sorry

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I thought we were bming each other all the time

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

manic vigil
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Well now that I think about it

shrewd oriole
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our nachos came with a big ass chile pepper

manic vigil
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Even sarcastically, I like it

shrewd oriole
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one of these

spare cloud
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Thanks

shrewd oriole
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it was like, the size of an index finger

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for scale

spare cloud
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I didnt know what a chilly pepper was before

shrewd oriole
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and some girl was like

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omg I bet no one can eat it all

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and then i ate it in one bite

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and I nearly died

spare cloud
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I'm used to spicy food

shrewd oriole
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dude

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same

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but

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that shit was

spare cloud
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my dad cooks shit and just throws those in there

shrewd oriole
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very spicy

spare cloud
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like they are onions

shrewd oriole
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idk

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I eat really spicy curry or mexican food all the time

spare cloud
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You shouldnt have bitten on the seeds

shrewd oriole
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but usually the spice comes gradually

spare cloud
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just swallow it

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and you wouldve been good

shrewd oriole
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this shit was just instant

spare cloud
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or just chew the outer stuff

shrewd oriole
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i feel

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just swallow it next time

spare cloud
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Yeah if you bite on it like a real chad

shrewd oriole
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got it daddy

spare cloud
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๐Ÿ˜„

manic vigil
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Impressing a girl through self-inflicted pain. What century is this

shrewd oriole
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any of them

manic vigil
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Some things never change

echo estuary
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just wanna-be alpha

shrewd oriole
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it never stopped being good

manic vigil
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Ye

spare cloud
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the seeds are bringing the spice

shrewd oriole
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I mean it worked

spare cloud
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just dont chew them

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and you gucci