#assassination

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quick ice
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lots of coined ones, never for me

marble hemlock
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:/

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i also havent seen a single argus ring yet

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not on hc

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even though i really need it for m+

shrewd night
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My brain tells me to pug argus heroic for the ring, but my body is like nooooooo

marble hemlock
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same

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this really annoys me

solar willow
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Ita my only 945 piece

marble hemlock
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to no end

spare cloud
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Argus ring?

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not even crit mastery

drifting cloud
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saliathan not gonna play sin in mdi? 🤔

marble hemlock
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going assa in the upper22 and nl24

drifting cloud
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do you still have a ret on your team

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or did you decide to go serious

spare cloud
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ignore pawn

marble hemlock
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i mean we still push with him, the team i did qualifiers with was on alliance, so we xfered there for a few days

drifting cloud
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oh I see

shrewd night
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21 itemsets btw

marble hemlock
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but our "regular" team is still ret/assa/fmage

solar willow
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Lul i have 6 sets and 1 of them is naked

marble hemlock
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kinky

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think i got like 13 or 14 for assa

drifting cloud
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13 different trinkets?

marble hemlock
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itemsets

spare cloud
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They are for sub/assa

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its not even that many

shrewd night
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not that many
have only 2 myself

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🤔

solar willow
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Prob half of them are outdated

drifting cloud
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ye I think I have like 3 or 4

spare cloud
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its 2 sub for aoe 1 for st and one for st with kj trinket

quick ice
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I have 3 for sin

spare cloud
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and one with prydaz

quick ice
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boots/mantle bracers/mantle boots/bracer

spare cloud
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wtf

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Its like pretty normal I think

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I've never used the assa aoe ones though

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I can delete them

frozen pecan
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I don't think so lul

marble hemlock
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^^

spare cloud
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So you dont have 1 for sub aoe and one for sub st?

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thats like 2 alreay

frozen pecan
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I'm not even saving any sets lol

spare cloud
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then one for assa with fang and one with eye

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thats 4 already

marble hemlock
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yeah

solar willow
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And another one i have is named fast where i put on my 2 pieces that have speed 😂

spare cloud
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if you played some high m+ you know that you want prydaz in one of the sets

marble hemlock
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mantle+bracers, mantle+boots, boots+bracers, mantle+belt

spare cloud
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so thats the 5th one

marble hemlock
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thats 4 more

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avoidance set, tankset with prydaz, two aoe sets, 4 singletarget sets for raid st, raid mt, m+ st, m+ mt :p

frozen pecan
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some people try extra hard I guess 😁

solar willow
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Other assas single sub single sub aoe sub pridaz

marble hemlock
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adds up quickly

spare cloud
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its not about tryharding

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Tryharding is like having 20 sub sets with one trinket swapped

marble hemlock
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nah

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you just run contract+glaives for trash all the way

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😄

spare cloud
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  • all others
marble hemlock
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having itemsets is easier

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than switching single pieces around

spare cloud
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well you kinda want to swap in a convergence in some cases

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for shadowblades on bosses

marble hemlock
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because eventually your bags are gonna look like this

shrewd night
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Sin set, outlaw set. Never use the outlaw set, so technically I only have one? thonking

spare cloud
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in tyrannical

marble hemlock
spare cloud
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but thats about it

marble hemlock
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and finding the right item to switch in on short notice

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is a pain in the ass

frozen pecan
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@shrewd night same as me

spare cloud
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my bags

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dont even use half of the items

solar willow
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Yday i got a 980 head from pk

marble hemlock
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so itemsets are easier and faster, and with the wa that enables you to have more itemsets, and Opie to switch them around, its quite easy actually

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pk gave you head?

shrewd night
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Ive gotten yelled at for my bags on more than one occasion lul

solar willow
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And had to switch to hands that give haste..

frozen pecan
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my bag is always full and I don't use 80% of the stuff in there lol

marble hemlock
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yeah

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also have to use t21 gloves

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😦

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just feels bad

quick ice
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at least T21 gloves have mastery high

marble hemlock
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on the one hand, the high mastery is really nice

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but haste...

quick ice
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yeah 😦

spare cloud
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Yep.

marble hemlock
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but with 985 crit/mastery shoulders and bracers

spare cloud
marble hemlock
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theres no other way 😦

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nice 😮

quick ice
marble hemlock
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only got 980 legs 😦

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and like 3k avoidance

quick ice
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3k avoidance sounds nice though!

marble hemlock
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i mean its capped at 2k

quick ice
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oh yeah

marble hemlock
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but yeah

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ive gotten really lucky with avoidance rolls the past few months

quick ice
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20% is cap?

marble hemlock
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yup

quick ice
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huh, thought it was 25

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oh well

solar willow
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After last night my stats are 185%mastery and 32%crit

marble hemlock
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need more leech gear though

quick ice
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I can't decide if I prefer leech or avoidance tbh

marble hemlock
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i like leech

dire spoke
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can you melee soak flame rend with 3 rogues?

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or does it take 4

marble hemlock
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you can, but the boss is gonna get stacks

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gotta soak with 6+ people

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or hell get stacks

dire spoke
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oh

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right

solar willow
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How many rogues did method use

marble hemlock
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need to make a screen of my leechgear when the chest has procced and i got vamp aura up, should be ~80% leech then

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once progress is over ill do #1 heal logs on every boss

solar willow
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Ill be waiting to see

marble hemlock
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but regarding the leech vs avoidance situation

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avoidance is way better

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because its mitigation, not healing, and its easier to get decent avoidance compared to leech

shrewd oriole
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Pb changes on alpha

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5% per cp

marble hemlock
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you generally only need 3 pieces with avoidance to get to the cap

shrewd oriole
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Poggers 25% chance

marble hemlock
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*30%

shrewd oriole
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Last 2 seconds instead of 3

marble hemlock
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wat

shrewd oriole
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Ep changed to 2

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10%

marble hemlock
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theres only a few m+ bosses where leech is actually doing some good work

shrewd oriole
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More shuriken storm nerds tyler1LUL

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Nerfs*

marble hemlock
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while almost all of them ahve something that makes avoidance valuable

shrewd oriole
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Wtf

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Cloak was made a talent lmao

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20% every 2 seconds, stacks to 20

frozen pecan
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It's fuckin bad

shrewd oriole
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Yeah lmao

frozen pecan
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pb looks nice tho

shrewd oriole
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I like the pb changes tho

frozen pecan
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ye

marble hemlock
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meh

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its more consistent, but less damage

shrewd oriole
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Ye

marble hemlock
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for aoe im still thinking that nightstalker+crimson tempest+ds is gonna be king

shrewd oriole
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That’s how I prefer it

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Crimson tempest was removed deliathan

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Seliathan*

frozen pecan
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There's still going to be changes

shrewd oriole
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Lmao

quick ice
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yeah, replaced by cloak 😐

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why would you remove that

shrewd oriole
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^

quick ice
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instead of

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whatever the 3rd talent in that row was

shrewd oriole
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Anticipation was removed as well

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Replaced with MFD

strange python
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😦

slim estuary
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does cloak negate sleep cannister like shock grenade on ahc?

frozen pecan
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alacrity aswell 😦

shrewd oriole
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Yeah it does papa

quick ice
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SnD also appears to be gone for outlaw in favour of alacrity?

slim estuary
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no one else takes sleep too? @shrewd oriole

marble hemlock
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wait wat

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havent been keeping up with changes

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i was looking forward to it :(((

shrewd oriole
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@slim estuary no

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It got removed last night

quick ice
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no sleep if you cloak before it hits

marble hemlock
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guess they really want to force the goddamn cloak/poison bomb on us

shrewd oriole
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Replaced for gimped leggo cloak

strange python
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Same, was liking the idea of crimson back

shrewd oriole
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Meh

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Dunno if y’all played wod assa but

strange python
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But fan of knives amirite

shrewd oriole
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Ct wasn’t particularly interesting

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I really like PK personally

slim estuary
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@shrewd oriole is that no, no one takes sleep or no, everyone takes sleep

shrewd oriole
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No one gets slept if you cloak before canister hits you

strange python
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Why play wod ass when wod sub was so fun

shrewd oriole
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I mean

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Wod assa was basically legion assa

quick ice
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I feel like the datamine might be wrong and cloak talent is where MfD was, not where CT was? because otherwise there's only 2 talents in that row now

shrewd oriole
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Poison build, bleed build didn’t really exist

desert quartz
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So in the pre patch period. Do u think the new fok talent and the cloak will stack? Same for PB.. double chance to proc?

quick ice
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I'm guessing here, but I'm gonna go with yes, then yes but 2 different procs, not stacking chance

frozen pecan
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Notter already played

quick ice
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unless they do something with artifacts

frozen pecan
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so no datamine

quick ice
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and CT is actually gone?

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whats the 3rd in that row then?

frozen pecan
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dunno he played with that cloak talent tho

short pivot
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What changes to cloak

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Links plux

frozen pecan
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so its probably gone

short pivot
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Or is it bfa ones?

shrewd oriole
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I can’t login right now

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Otherwise I’d check

quick ice
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BFA stuff

short pivot
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Ah cool

frozen pecan
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It's still there

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ct

short pivot
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Is 2.07 mil dps alright for 968.5?

quick ice
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I'm actually liking that talent tree atm

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@short pivot yeah its alright

short pivot
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Cool beans thanks a lot 😄

desert quartz
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Wow did they change venom rush to that???

shrewd oriole
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Uh wowhead said they had changed

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Maybe it’s wrong

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Nice

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I like ct

quick ice
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yeah I think wowhead had it wrong

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because the way they said it leaves 2 talents in the l100 row

shrewd oriole
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Glad that sub keep cloak too

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I don’t get assa having cloak

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We don’t use it lmao

quick ice
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poison knives gone, maybe they'll increase scaling on fok?

frozen pecan
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ye I don't understand their reasoning in giving assa cloak

shrewd oriole
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Or shoulders

quick ice
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tbh if they gave us PK as an AOE talent instead of cloak I'd even be ok with that

shrewd oriole
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Assa is getting the worst leggos

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And not getting the interesting ones

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Like wrists, boots

frozen pecan
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it's even a nerfed version of shoulders lul

quick ice
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I mean, dispatch brings back our execute like wrists give, even if it works differently

shrewd oriole
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No

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It doesn’t

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It competes with good talents lmao

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Plus dispatch is boring af

quick ice
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I liked it 😃

shrewd oriole
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God

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You played assa in wod?

desert quartz
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#rememberarchimondetrinket

quick ice
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hadn't played since cata when I rejoined in wod prepatch

frozen pecan
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bring back bc talent trees :>

shrewd oriole
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No

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Those were trash

frozen pecan
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nah I liked them

short pivot
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So basically, legos—> new talents, assas looks sexy with eviscerate back 😄 love the talents they looks decent

shrewd oriole
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And no one remember archi trinket because hopefully no one played assa for archi

short pivot
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That garotte for pvp tho!!

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😍

shrewd oriole
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What did you like about bc trees?

desert quartz
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I played assa :/

shrewd oriole
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Everyone took the same thing

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If you played assa in hfc

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Idk what to tell you

frozen pecan
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they were more individual

quick ice
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wait, we have eviscerate back @short pivot ?

shrewd oriole
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Everyone took the same thing lol t least we had choices

frozen pecan
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not everyone specced the same shit for pvp at least

short pivot
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It shows so in link yeah

shrewd oriole
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@quick ice nah we don’t he’s confused

frozen pecan
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I didn't play pve in bc

shrewd oriole
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It’s a leveling spell

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Ah

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Yeah for pvp sure for pvp bc / wrath talents were shit

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For pve*

short pivot
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In specialization assasination, says evesicrate

shrewd oriole
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Mate

quick ice
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15/41/5 forever iirc?

shrewd oriole
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It’s a leveling spell

quick ice
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you don't get envenom until later

shrewd oriole
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We have eviscerate right if now as well

quick ice
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replaces it

shrewd oriole
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When we are low level

short pivot
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Ah okay okay

shrewd oriole
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Just like we have sinister strike

strange python
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Yeah, but wod sub was way better than legion sub @shrewd oriole

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At least ino

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Imp

frozen pecan
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mace stun was the funniest shit in bc

strange python
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Imo***

shrewd oriole
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Wod sub was amazing

quick ice
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does CT proc venomous wounds btw? talent/ability doesn't say

frozen pecan
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cheap shot -> kidney ( no dr) into mace stun lol

shrewd oriole
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@quick ice ofc it does

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It’s a bleed

quick ice
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I thought it did, but I was just looking and its not listed on the venomous wounds skill in talents on wowdb and panicked

frozen pecan
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hope they gonna do something nice to outlul kinda wanna play with swords again

quick ice
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alacrity/loaded dice/snd all on same tier is odd

strange python
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🏳️‍🌈

quick ice
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tbh loaded dice as a talent feels bad

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only thing that made rtb not hell to deal with imo

frozen pecan
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they should remove rtb completely imo

magic zenith
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SnD 4lyfe

sharp viper
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monks got remove in the latest patch now 😦 it was fun playing rogu

frozen pecan
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and go back to the combat style gameplay

quick ice
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with or without bandit's guile? (the stacking green/yellow/red thing)

unreal coyote
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guile was lame

frozen pecan
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without that was stupid aswell

unreal coyote
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but still better than rtb

viscid helm
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nobody cares about outlaw

quick ice
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buff restless blades, delete rtb, imo

magic zenith
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what's worst though pb RNG or rtb RNG?

sharp viper
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yes

quick ice
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I'd rather deal with PB rng

unreal coyote
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pb is better than rtb

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for sure

magic zenith
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(hint: they're both bad)

unreal coyote
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thats fair

steep obsidian
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pb rng isnt even too bad in bfa

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been playin it and it doesnt feel that bad to be honest

quick ice
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5%/CP sounds not nearly as awful as now

steep obsidian
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its not

sharp viper
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bcz it's 4% per cp

steep obsidian
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it ticks over 2 secs now as well

spare cloud
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I mean its an increase

quick ice
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5% as of latest patch

spare cloud
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so ofc its not as awful as now

steep obsidian
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so less likely for tanks to drag mob out of it

magic zenith
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Hard to balance around "But what if pb procs a dozen times in a row"

steep obsidian
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that hasnt ever happened to me

quick ice
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the triple PB in opener with mantle has happened to me a few times

steep obsidian
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so they dont need to balance around that?

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yeh ive had that a fwe times

magic zenith
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It's hyperbole.

steep obsidian
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there are quitea few classes which you can get sick rng with too

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and do nuts damage

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or sit doing not much

frozen pecan
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I feel I only get pb proccs on trash lol

magic zenith
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^

quick ice
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@frozen pecan especially low health trash

steep obsidian
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i dont even mind it that much to be honest for raiding

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and fi i really cared to push m+ id play more sub then i do right now

spare cloud
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tbh bursting 10 mil on a few trashmobs feels good as well

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or more

vital blade
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outlaw just makes me think of that pirate guy who sings the spongebob theme song

quick ice
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QnA is tonight yeah?

spare cloud
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cant use that word

magic zenith
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yeah

steep obsidian
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q&a is in like 5 hours 30 i think

vital blade
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qna yeah doubt there will be anything class specific

viscid helm
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wow QA

keen inlet
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wow QA will be 90% allied races and 10% warfronts

quick ice
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👋 don

keen inlet
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calling it now

viscid helm
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no bigger waste of time

vital blade
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🦁

unreal coyote
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watching those QnAs makes me wanna /wrists

steep obsidian
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heh

keen inlet
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maybe they'll talk about how great ™ survival is now

unreal coyote
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just read the cliff notes on mmo

keen inlet
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but

steep obsidian
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well

quick ice
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I mean, ideally they'd pick at least some non-allied races/warfronts questions

keen inlet
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I have a duty

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to cap as much of Lore and myself Ion as possible

quick ice
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I'll be asleep during it so I'll just read cliff notes anyway

steep obsidian
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they cant even say much nowadays if they get something wrong ot make a "promise" and then it gets changed peopel are all like

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reeeeee

keen inlet
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people expect these things

vital blade
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if people stopped asking stupid qwestions the QnA wouldnt suck

keen inlet
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That's not true

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they absolutely cherry pick the questions

viscid helm
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lmao

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u guys are actually fucking clueless

keen inlet
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People post on forums, twitter, etc beforehand, and there are tons of valid/good questions.

viscid helm
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obviously the questions are picked

spare cloud
steep obsidian
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^

viscid helm
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"people asking stupid questions"

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have nothing to do with it

keen inlet
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They just cherry-pick the softballs

vital blade
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🐍

viscid helm
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christ

keen inlet
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Flowi

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it's okay

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I promise

frozen pecan
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ofc they pick the questions

keen inlet
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you'll be alright

quick ice
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warfronts aren't enabled yet, so I bet we'll hear more about them in the QnA

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because atm we know next to nothing about them?

frozen pecan
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do you think they want to deal with critical questions? lul

spare cloud
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Khan feeding

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rip kz

gaunt moat
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@keen inlet how busy are you today?

steep obsidian
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the island things are open for testing as of like

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today

viscid helm
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you mean we hear the same shit that was said already 6months ago

steep obsidian
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i did one before

vital blade
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blizz always avoid critical questions which is why u never get class based questions

steep obsidian
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was pretty much just a mop scenario from what i could tell

keen inlet
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@gaunt moat Pretty busy but I'm gonna make time for the q&A

gaunt moat
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you know what you need to do?

steep obsidian
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with that new bg sorta built into it

keen inlet
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Priorities ™

gaunt moat
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a Q&A bingo

steep obsidian
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but pve

keen inlet
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HAH

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oh god

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hang on

viscid helm
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yeh and scenarios were scrapped for a reason

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no one did them

keen inlet
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there are instant-bingos

viscid helm
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because they were awful

keen inlet
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I've got time for that

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brb

gaunt moat
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😄

magic zenith
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I just want them to say they're moving to the next testing phase

quick ice
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if they answer any rogue questions you know you'll be swamped with people posting stuff, right? 😃

magic zenith
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official beta or whatever

viscid helm
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why does it matter

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if its called alpha or beta

steep obsidian
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iw ant more people in

magic zenith
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for my snake brain

steep obsidian
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so i can actually do dungeons without waiting for 2 hours in queue

vital blade
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🐍

magic zenith
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That too, typical if they feel as if it's in the next phase they'll start inviting a lot more people.

spare cloud
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You can do that on live as well sabod

slim estuary
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!relic

spare cloud
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if you enjoy waiting in que 2 hours

slim estuary
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!trinkets

chrome tuskBOT
spare cloud
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Just que on alpha and live with 1 hour in between

steep obsidian
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i did one dungeon so far and the island thing

quick ice
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yeah, beta usually had a huge number more people?

steep obsidian
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and just a bunch of quests

spare cloud
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then you have 1 dungeon and when youre done you can do one on the other server

steep obsidian
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yeah beta will have a lot more people in

keen inlet
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@gaunt moat I'M ON THIS

steep obsidian
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i should just tank i guess then I could probably get a group

keen inlet
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y'all give me your ideas for Q&A bingo in #off-topic

vital blade
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they should add more pvp content to the game tbh seething shore is the first new bg they added since 2012, pvpers get 0 content

viscid helm
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because pvp in wow

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dog

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shit

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why waste time on it

vital blade
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and rogues are king in pvp

viscid helm
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they tried to take wow pvp to esports so many times

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but its just so fucking bad

frozen pecan
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ye pvp sucked since cata

vital blade
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wow pvp esports has been a thing since arena existed in tbc

steep obsidian
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its funny that the mdi is sorta working

quick ice
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from what I've seen, no matter what blizz does, PVPers will shit on it anyway?

steep obsidian
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i think it will actually be more popular then wow pvp ever was

vital blade
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pve esports is a joke mythic invitationals so basically speed runners

viscid helm
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mdi already is

steep obsidian
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well considering the age of the game anyway

viscid helm
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more popular

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pvp is a joke

vital blade
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pvp is a joke cos blizz dnt care about it

viscid helm
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no

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pvp in this game is just bad

spare cloud
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DONT INSULT WHAT I CARE ABOUT IN THE GAME

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OTHERWISE I WILL BE VERY ANGRY

viscid helm
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you cant make esports of it

vital blade
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and u think mythic invitationals are good esports you look at every popular esport on twitch its based on PVP not pve

sharp viper
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if you improve pvp you could but that is never going to happen

frozen pecan
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pvp was fun in vanilla, bc and wotlk afterwards it got worse and worse

viscid helm
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i never said mdi is good esports

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it will never be one

steep obsidian
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wow pvp is so fucking hard to follow as a spectator and i play the game

viscid helm
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but its still better than pvp

sharp viper
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mdi is PvEvPvE

steep obsidian
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imagine how bad it is for seomeone who doesnt

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if i watch lol or sc2 or overwatch i can pick up whats going on pretty quickly

shrewd oriole
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PvP is trash

viscid helm
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if you dont play wow, you cant understand any of the pvp

#

its just shit

keen inlet
#

guys I need more bingo squares

#

come halp

viscid helm
#

and 95% of oeple who play wow

sharp viper
#

the spectatormode is trash and it was even worse beforehand

spare cloud
#

Bingo

viscid helm
#

dont care about it

vital blade
#

so cos u dnt understand it its shit ok

viscid helm
#

yes

#

it is

frozen pecan
#

pvp got far to fast it's retarded

shrewd oriole
#

@keen inlet shaman defensives

viscid helm
#

you cant make esports of it

shrewd oriole
#

^

viscid helm
#

when no one understands it

slim estuary
#

Whats the good shadow relics in abt?

viscid helm
#

lmao

spare cloud
#

Its shit for esports if people dont understand it

#

whats the logic thefuck

sharp viper
#

KG relic

shrewd oriole
#

Why is hearthstone so popular

#

Cuz it’s super viewer friendly

vital blade
#

how can u not make esports of it when theres been arena tournaments for years seriously your like the worst troll

shrewd oriole
#

What

#

The arena tournaments have no viewers

steep obsidian
#

i dont understand hearthstone either half the time

shrewd oriole
#

And shit prize polls

viscid helm
#

arena tournaments

spare cloud
#

yeah flowi stop trolling!

steep obsidian
#

when i watch someone stream that

viscid helm
#

with 5k views

spare cloud
#

lmao

shrewd oriole
#

You’ve proved his point

viscid helm
#

OMEGALUL

steep obsidian
#

i have nfi in fact

shrewd oriole
#

They’ve been going on for viewers

sharp viper
#

hearthstone is a shit ton of rng, even if someone is being outplayed their RNG might save them and give a turn around

shrewd oriole
#

For years*

#

And are still shit

#

Meanwhile league players make millions

#

LUL

#

Clearly one is more successful than the other

frozen pecan
#

PVP tournaments in wrath had alot of viewers nowadays it's just a shitshow

shrewd oriole
#

OW gets 140k viewers on a Wednesday night

spare cloud
#

well the game is more popular because its easier to access in general

shrewd oriole
#

Drake gets 600k viewers on twitch

frozen pecan
#

lul

shrewd oriole
#

But wow tournaments can’t get 10k

#

LUL

sharp viper
#

get drake to play wow arena. easy solution

shrewd oriole
#

OW IS TWO YEARS OLD and it’s esports is already 10 times as big as wows ever was

#

Please don’t kid yourself that wow pvp is esports material

#

Lmao

spare cloud
#

Because its a better concept for esports

vital blade
#

your comparing 2 totally different genres of games

spare cloud
#

Yeah and one is obviously better

vital blade
#

ofc an FPS is better esports than an MMO

viscid helm
#

🤔

spare cloud
#

thats the whole point lol

steep obsidian
#

i don tthink its wrong to compare one pvp game to another pvp

shrewd oriole
#

That’s the whole point

spare cloud
#

You just disproved your own statement

sharp viper
#

overwatch is a pure pvp game while wow is a pve game with built in and very optional pvp

shrewd oriole
#

^

spare cloud
#

what the fuck dude

viscid helm
#

this guy

#

lmao

steep obsidian
#

whole problem with wow pvp is that its not designed soley with pvp in mind

#

and it shouldnt be

vital blade
#

yeah cos i have to do shitty pve to get gear for pvp

sharp viper
#

how many people complained when essences dropped from rated pvp as well as pve

spare cloud
#

I LIKE PVP AND I THINK ITS ESPORTS MATERIAL DONT MAKE FUN OF IT OTHERWISE IMA PWN YOU

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz no one wants to do pvp

#

Cuz it’s trash

#

LUL

vital blade
#

remember the outcry of pvers when they had to do pvp as part of the legedary questline in mop

sharp viper
#

wow, way to be tophxic

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah

#

Cuz no one wants to do pvp

viscid helm
#

yeh

steep obsidian
#

lol that was funny as hell

viscid helm
#

because pvp is shit

shrewd oriole
#

Lmao

steep obsidian
#

those guys were idiots though

viscid helm
#

no one wants to do it

spare cloud
#

I did pvp in the beginning of wod

steep obsidian
#

one bg was easy to finish

spare cloud
#

oneshot healers as fury

#

was a good time

vital blade
#

yet pvpers are forced into pve to get gear, to get 940+ gear in pvp u need to be 1850 rated or higher

viscid helm
#

who cares?

#

how is that relevant

steep obsidian
#

"hey pvp guy in my guild who doesnt do anything but pvp help me get this quest one"

viscid helm
#

to wow pvp never being successful

steep obsidian
#

"thanks guy"

frozen pecan
#

Flowi and Tom are right tho, I used to only pvp in bc and wotlk but after that it got worse and worse, nowadays pvp is awful

keen inlet
shrewd oriole
#

Amen

#

Now leave our pve channel

sudden ocean
#

guildie is telling me that prey on the weak is better than thugee for progression

#

whatdo

sharp viper
#

blizz made some good changes with separate pve and pvp templates but then they just neglect the pvp templates and balance merely once at the start of a season or to counterbalance (some) pve changes

shrewd oriole
#

@sudden ocean are you kidney shotting bosses

#

Or adds for that matter?

sharp viper
#

always cheap shot bosses

viscid helm
#

Naya is

shrewd oriole
#

The answer should be no

#

So thugge is better

sudden ocean
#

I want to tell him he's dumb but hes GMs pet

shrewd oriole
#

He’s dumb

#

Screen cap this

#

And send it to him

frozen pecan
#

lol

shrewd oriole
#

Say it was me

sharp viper
#

power bot-tom

spare cloud
#

I kidney shot bosses

shrewd oriole
#

LOL

#

New name

quick ice
#

oh. I just realised that

shrewd oriole
#

Thanks

#

Same actually lmao

sharp viper
#

wait you didnt intend that pun?

shrewd oriole
#

No

quick ice
#

oh, I thought it was intentional

sharp viper
#

i am disappointed :/

#

but yw

spare cloud
#

bleed build

shrewd oriole
#

Don’t take hemo...

sharp viper
#

hemo what?

shrewd oriole
#

Cringer

spare cloud
#

6 cp infernal bleeding kidney shot

sharp viper
#

LUL

shrewd oriole
#

Lmao

sharp viper
#

wait, will the sim apl use kidney shot if you have internal bleeding specced?

quick ice
#

I doubt it

shrewd oriole
#

Doesn’t work on bosses

#

So if you set the target to non boss maybe!

dire spoke
quick ice
#

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be worth it even if it did?

shrewd oriole
#

I think it is

#

It’s really high damage

dire spoke
#

you ever played outlaw stun bracers?

sharp viper
#

hmm i am not sure if the bleed still applies if the target is stun immune

quick ice
#

I think it does

shrewd oriole
#

Doesn’t

quick ice
#

oh :*(

spare cloud
#

fuck it doesnt do boss dmg

#

ahhhhh

#

my build

steep obsidian
#

you def played hemo at the start of legion like before you had any gear

#

in pve

frozen pecan
#

good ol' hemo

sharp viper
#

no energy exsang was the shit 😦

#

just melt people

quick ice
#

400% exsang in PVE was fun too

sharp viper
#

didn't play rogue in cata, the earliest hemo i remember was the subtlety talent in tbc

frozen pecan
#

ye it was used as the main attack

#

wasn't intended like that

sharp viper
#

well good dmg and better than backstabbing in pvp

opal goblet
#

4006608811242

frozen pecan
#

yep

#

lmao

keen inlet
#

(just pinning for today)

dire spoke
hoary copper
#

Blocked at work....fix that don. kthnx

#

@lone junco Used my tokens for another leggo on my HPal.....Velens >.>

#

Goodbye cloak

#

hmm they removed Expose Armor on the PTR

#

gave it to monk

sharp viper
#

yeah, rip rogues, good thing my monk is ready

hoary copper
#

Elaborate Planning for outlaw....

gaunt moat
#

@dire spoke 🗡

#

i'mma cut ya

lone junco
#

I would like hemo to do work, ESP in bracer but we have too many poison components.

sharp viper
#

hemo could work in bfa... oh wait

keen inlet
lone junco
#

There could be a bleed variant with 3x rupture damages and stacked vers. But still prob very limp.

#

T21 made sure of that.

hoary copper
#

Woot

#

Looks like a winner to me

dire spoke
#

help, I'm being harassed by mods not following their own rules 😨

lone junco
#

Healed a normy run thru argus last night. Did really well. How does valens work?

hoary copper
#

Any overhealing gets directed to 3 people that actually need it

sharp viper
#

more pew pew healing and less pew pew overheal

ivory leaf
#

Busted

hoary copper
#

If I recall it doesnt play well with AoS but Hpal is so overhealy anyway

sweet inlet
#

With Notter's Weak Aura's, is there a way of moving all the WA's as one big group rather than each set one by one?

lone junco
#

It's a use. So you lay it up with sac?

#

Or just use as another clicky

#

@sweet inlet I don't think they are grouped. And they are prob too small

sweet inlet
#

So i have to move them all individually? 😦

quick ice
#

@sweet inlet I'm not sure if there is a function to do this, but if you merge the groups?

hoary copper
#

You use it with anything thats going to cause overhealing. I dont think sac works with it, but Im asking in holy discord

gaunt moat
#

@sweet inlet no, they were made in seperate groups

#

@quick ice not a good idea to merge the groups

sweet inlet
#

Ok thanks @gaunt moat

quick ice
#

personally I just moved them by adding X to the coordinates

#

what happens if I merge the groups? are we talking mass hysteria or divide by zero?

gaunt moat
#

some groups have logic when to load etc.

sweet inlet
#

@quick ice moving by adding to x/y is a great idea thanks!

gaunt moat
#

unfortunately WAs don't support group of groups

sweet inlet
#

ill just find the perfect position for one group and the rest should be simple enough ^^

hoary copper
#

Ub [Holy] - Today at 9:24 AM
the buffed heals feed into sac, sac oh doesn't feed into velens and 15% doesn't buff the sac after the initial spells @lone junco

spare cloud
#

@keen inlet when is rh meeting up to play the bingo together?

sweet inlet
#

Hmm, now how do i make sure these settings save? as recently when i close wow it has been deleting all my changed settings (like sound playing in background and such)

quick ice
#

make sure you exit with exit button

#

not alt-F4

keen inlet
#

@spare cloud tbh I leave that on y'all, but Q&A is in 4.5 hours

#

I'll be busy leading the ion screencap charge

calm grail
#

Waow lego cloak talent sorta?

quick ice
#

I will be busy 💤

calm grail
#

Waowwww

keen inlet
#

WAOW

#

waow ™

calm grail
#

That's Owen Wilson level of excitement.

quick ice
#

I think I said this earlier, but (rebalanced) PK in that row instead of cloak talent would be interesting-er imo

#

maybe because sin never really liked the cloak and I've only used it as sub, but it feels like a sub-y talent

sharp viper
#

member the addon that allowed you to play owen wilson wooooaw on every crit?

calm grail
#

That Aura buff for sin. Was it feeling lacklust on the PTR?

#

Lackluster**

keen inlet
#

@sharp viper shoulder proc owengasm

sharp viper
#

just needs a 5 second long drawn out wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw

marble hemlock
#

its just dumb to force the cloak into assa who still has a large majority of their aoe damage come from poisons/bleeds

sharp viper
#

i am certain you could make that a weakaura for rogues

#

that's where the addon started, as a 🍝 wa

dire spoke
#

why 👏🏻 are there 👏🏻 no 👏🏻 blood WQs

solar willow
#

I love how broken shoulders are in timewalking

torn token
#

Sub in timewalking is a breeze

hasty marsh
#

i simmed all 3 the gearsets and they are all equal, what do you prefer ?

📎 unknown.png
solar willow
#

How do u get so high mastery

shrewd notch
#

maybe high mastery for better aoe?

#

i imagine you simmed for patchwerk

hasty marsh
#

more crit for varimatras and mastery for High command for example >?

sharp viper
#

37% crit makes the gameplay more fluid

#

more energy and more cp

gaunt moat
#

if they are all equal, how can there be preference 🤔

shrewd night
#

Asking us what we prefer is sort of asking if we like pancakes or spaghetti more

shrewd notch
#

they're all equal for ST but one might be better for some other situation

shrewd night
#

Which has no effect on your personal taste

warm sun
#

Use all 3 for a bit and see what one "feels" Best to you

frozen pecan
#

@shrewd night do you prefer spaghetti or pancakes?

shrewd night
#

I prefer pancakes

frozen pecan
#

weird

solid field
#

you using the same legos in all three sets?

shrewd night
#

And pineapple pizza

marble hemlock
#

so

#

can we stop talking about food?

frozen pecan
#

🤢

marble hemlock
#

im getting hungry

keen inlet
#

I prefer

solar willow
#

Id prefer the 2nd set you have there

keen inlet
#

Alacrity baseline

#

😏

marble hemlock
#

cheeky

keen inlet
#

for all rouge specs

#

not rogue tho

hasty marsh
keen inlet
#

f those guys

frozen pecan
#

I like chili con carne, just so you know

marble hemlock
#

i like tuna salad

frozen pecan
#

salad 🤢

gaunt moat
#

litteraly eating tuna now

shrewd night
#

ew

frozen pecan
#

pretty DansGame in here

marble hemlock
#

oh boy

#

starting champion against the grain with randoms

#

literally wiping

#

to the first pack of specials

solar willow
#

How did i pull 2m dps on eonar last night as assas

marble hemlock
magic zenith
#

pb all day

solar willow
#

It was a clean kill honestly all packs were handled perfectly

lone junco
#

@marble hemlock in M+ we just gave up dealing with affixes, and run 1massive aoe, 1pure ST (me exang), and disc for ranged + heals. made me lol how much smoother the key was. basically made grevious = 0.

solar willow
#

Some nasty pb procs

gaunt moat
#

@marble hemlock vermintide?

marble hemlock
#

grievous with disc?

lone junco
#

disc + rsham

marble hemlock
#

so you twohealed and grievous wasnt a problem? 😄

lone junco
#

the disc was just smiting away and doing like 1.5M st.

#

its typ our raid strats. outgear and over heal.

marble hemlock
#

grievous is only hard on certain bosses

#

did an upper 24 yday

#

medivh was

gaunt moat
#

hello?

marble hemlock
#

interesting

#

heyo

lone junco
#

2nd Tyr Maw was delightfully smooth.

marble hemlock
#

game just crashed

#

restarting

solar willow
#

Was it just me calling it grevious?

#

Grevious suits it better i think

marble hemlock
#

24 medivh with 2 arcanephases was yikes

gaunt moat
#

do you want to play with me verminitde

marble hemlock
#

yes

#

starting game

#

if it doesnt crash

gaunt moat
#

give me a minute

marble hemlock
#

disc is nice for bosses, but his aoe dps sucks

#

and its not like other healers do much less damage anyway

lone junco
#

sure does.

solar willow
#

Do u guys have good moonglaives? Mine is only 915

lone junco
#

i wish he had holy nova

gaunt moat
#

@marble hemlock can go on voice?

lone junco
#

hes got the AoE ship, and mains shadow

#

but it was just funny to 2h a key. Ret/Rogue do plenty of dps for non enrage bosses.

marble hemlock
#

yeye

lone junco
#

we just dont have ideal comps. Druid/rsham/rogue/ret +

marble hemlock
#

nice

lone junco
#

The Barrier makes for a nice addition to the toolkit. and better to have 1/2dps 1/2 heal than have anyone die ever

marble hemlock
#

i mean

#

depends on the key too

#

but you shouldnt really be dying anyway

strange python
#

Playing shade in V2 for that rogue feel?

marble hemlock
#

unless youre doing like insanely high keys

#

nah

#

handmaiden

#

to carry the plebs

strange python
#

y.y next, we should play double sin seli

#

for lootshare rings

#

xD

marble hemlock
#

why not triple

strange python
#

stealth run ?

#

2 droods

#

3 rogues

marble hemlock
#

god-dps

#

with 3 assa rogues

#

you dont have to rely on pb procs anymore

#

cause someone will proc pb

strange python
#

maybe some alacrity rogue for trash

#

here

#

xD

lone junco
#

we are rally bad at mechanics and footwork. the 1/2 heal eliminates most concernts.

#

lack of aoe stuns sucks as well.

strange python
#

?

lone junco
#

Alac is garbage for M+ imo

zealous dew
#

not only for m+

strange python
#

lack of aoe cc maybe

lone junco
#

zing

#

alac is a lazy meme spec.

#

aka farm raids

strange python
#

but we got strong bursts / st options .. best surv kit and masstealth

lone junco
#

"We"

zealous dew
#

monks yes

#

😃

strange python
#

what is wrong with u ?

#

soo .. keys intime

#

there is no monk ..

#

but yeah

#

monks ... uiuiui

shrewd night
#

I dont

#

think I was

#

able to understand

#

what you

#

were saying

manic vigil
#

It's mich reincarnated monkaS

spare cloud
#

UI UI UI

shrewd night
#

BAGUETTE

spare cloud
#

No thats not what its supposed to be

strange python
#

translation is .. delete ur rogue

spare cloud
manic vigil
#

Ded class

spare cloud
#

I will delete my rogue

#

I have some nice names saved for horde

manic vigil
#

Why were you spamming guilds yesterday toph?

#

Scammer

spare cloud
#

can't say

#

germans will know

shrewd night
#

I need rog frandz in my guild toph

spare cloud
#

I still need to make a guild btw

#

help me really quick pls

#

Yeah he doesnt talk to simmers above 2,3

manic vigil
#

It's our beloved goddess! bigWOW

dire spoke
manic vigil
#

All hail alacrity the wise

spare cloud
#

guys

#

make a char on blackhand horde please

#

level 1 orc

#

really quick

manic vigil
#

How dare he

spare cloud
#

what

strange python
#

??????????????

manic vigil
#

Yeah that's weird

#

Small indie and all

dire spoke
spare cloud
#

Oh yeah

manic vigil
#

Zempai the precise bigWOW

spare cloud
#

voidelfs without boots look so shit

#

it looks like smth went wrong t here

dire spoke
meager viper
#

I need someone to talk for improving my dps and explaining me more about assasination rogue

dire spoke
#

ffs

spare cloud
#

Just post your logs here

#

;^)

sharp viper
#

and read the guide first

dire spoke
#

😒 let me guess

manic vigil
dire spoke
#

how not to play sin

#

oh ye ahahaahh

lone junco
#

You're welcome.

spare cloud
#

Zempai is r1 clicking player

#

ofc you learn smth from him

dire spoke
#

r1 clicker top notch RH king

#

I got a frostDK, furyWarr and eleSh

spare cloud
#

I think fury is fin

#

as clicker

dire spoke
#

it's like sub 🤷🏻

spare cloud
#

You know what wouldve been really fun clicking

#

Arms with focused rage

gilded lark
spare cloud
#

O.O

#

have you played dh?

lone junco
#

outlaw is way way too fast for me to click. thats for sure.

spare cloud
#

Anything is way too fast for me to click

#

Honestly I couldn't play anything clicking

dire spoke
#

I played bloodlet triangle rush DH, then fotm build changed and I quit it

lone junco
#

sub is fine between the dfas, but that symbol /specter vanish ss dfa dance ss

spare cloud
#

as fury you only press 3 buttons actively as well

lone junco
#

I hated triangle rush

solid field
#

I mean, I could play it. I'm not physically handicapped in that regards, it just wouldn't be productive at all.

manic vigil
#

Dh with that momentum thing... Could you even click that pepethink

lone junco
#

as a raid lead, I benched the triangle dh.

spare cloud
#

Arms with focused rage.

lone junco
#

kept clipping Ursoc charge.

spare cloud
#

Literally 2 buttons at the same time.

lone junco
#

fricking idiots

dire spoke
#

lmao

spare cloud
#

impossible to play efficiently while purely clicking

gilded lark
#

watching the clicker dh's on krosus with momentum build

#

dash and slowly keyboard turn back to face boss

#

just in time for slam

spare cloud
#

tbh as dh you probably fall down less with clicking

dire spoke
#

I don't have arms weapon D:

spare cloud
#

focused rage is also outdated

#

was played in EN

gilded lark
#

up to ToS

dire spoke
#

I mean, it's not like I alt actively

#

they are all between 890-910

spare cloud
#

Yeah but fragnance only played it because they needed the burst dmg on adds

#

and only on KJ

#

it didn't see any frequent play in tos

gilded lark
#

not saying it was even played but there was no alternative before ToS too it lol

#

then tos 4p came out

#

spin2win spec took over

spare cloud
#

Well in NH you played fury

#

Helya was fr as well

#

thats right

gilded lark
#

in nh you didn't play warrior

#

kappa

spare cloud
#

Yeah right because warrior was really bad for gul'dan progress

vernal adder
#

or arcano

dire spoke
#

I could revamp my sub WAs like sin fronking

spare cloud
#

draught was cool

gilded lark
#

arcano shouldn't exist

#

amanthuls shouldn't exist

spare cloud
#

its the whole system around it

vernal adder
#

blizz thinks mainstats are the best

spare cloud
#

Yeah right

vernal adder
#

I mean agi etc

spare cloud
#

agility > everthing for rogue

vernal adder
gilded lark
#

yeah that secondary stat squish

#

clearly

#

made primary stats better

#

like warlocks definitely want int

spare cloud
#

Well you want every stat if you dont lose anything for it

#

I'd take 10k haste if I didnt have to exchange anything

vernal adder
gilded lark
#

you know what i mean

spare cloud
#

I dont know the stats of warlock

#

so I really dont

gilded lark
#

and i'd love to see a sin rogue with 10k haste

#

well

#

int is like

#

bottom

#

by a lot

spare cloud
#

but items generally have more int/agi than secondary stats

gilded lark
#

then again that's true for every caster right now i think

spare cloud
#

so with increasing ilvl it eventually balances out

gilded lark
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?

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it goes the other way lol

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it's like our mastery vs our agi

vernal adder
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or arcano for shadowpriests

spare cloud
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Well ofc

keen inlet
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I mean

gilded lark
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arcano for pmuch every caster

keen inlet
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agi is nearly bottom for me

gilded lark
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hell arcano for most specs

spare cloud
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for rogue thats total bullshit

keen inlet
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at 950 ilvl

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as outlaw or sin

gilded lark
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yeah

keen inlet
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👍 great design btw

gilded lark
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some people have haste > agi

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but atm they're like 965+

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it's fucked

spare cloud
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it can change some stuff for some classes though I think

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but those are total niche situations

gilded lark
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my lock is like

spare cloud
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that shouldnt really happen with a mainstat tbh

gilded lark
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947

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iirc haste is worth like

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2x int

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or worse

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idk i haven't played it in a bit

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affli is so fucking boring

spare cloud
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I think I've triggered a korean guy in general

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help

keen inlet
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My stance is, was, and always has been

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that ilvl should be king

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in terms of upgrades

spare cloud
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anyone who's fluent in Korean here?

keen inlet
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spare cloud
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Thanks guys

prime void
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Mornin cunts

spare cloud
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Isnt that like waaaaaaay back?

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like wotlk or smth

gilded lark
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yeah it gave crit years ago

spare cloud
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I can't remember I was a 12 year old cunt back then