To have fun but they dont understand it π―
#assassination
brisk forge
keen inlet
Mo π ti π va π tion
polar grail
notter gets it
bold dune
πΏ
lone junco
Flex raid or gtfo. Fixed roster is for children
lone junco
π₯
strange python
id say rn that most of the hardcore people are doing m+ as progression tho
brisk forge
LFR or quit the game πͺ
strange python
since hardcore have already been 11/11
lone junco
M+ is best filler content in years.
rip dead tier, lets jump in Dalaran
or just play poe
polar grail
I did 30+yrs old w/kids and a fulltime job style of progression... so 2 nights a week lol
strange python
except for tyrannical weeks
hoary copper
LFR is harder than heroic some days
strange python
fuck m+ tyran
polar grail
haha yeah
lone junco
point being, Nunya got dayam business, what other people find fun. and mythic raiding is a TINY percent of the population.
keen inlet
LFR should absolutely exist, but they should really tune it down. The people playing it (or sleeping through it) aren't capable or don't have interest in stepping up to the plate. Nuke the rewards if necessary idc
hoary copper
Cloak makes it easier when zappy bois come out or bubble if im on my paladin
polar grail
with enough large wieners in the group its trivial but most of the time you get AFK auto attackers
hoary copper
I only do lfr for leggo chances mostly or tf
keen inlet
call it story mode or w/e
polar grail
yeah
keen inlet
the fact that argus doesn't die without 4 failbuff stacks, on average (it's probably more)
that's a lot of time for people to waste
bold dune
I'm not sure it should absolutely exist, although the genie's out of the bottle at this point
but they probably shouldn't have added it in any form to begin with
keen inlet
It should. If they're going to gate huge plot events behind raids, it should.
And they do. All the stories basically end in raid.
Which would totally screw over non-raiders. It's an RPG. Maybe a bad one, at this point, but still
polar grail
story progression through pet battles
bold dune
I mean that would likely make one care enough to get into a normal group lol
keen inlet
lol
bold dune
it was like that for years prior to 4.3
keen inlet
at this point normal groups require ilvl 970
strange python
make normal easier, make HC and Mythic harder
keen inlet
whether or not they "require" it
strange python
remove lfr
polar grail
man mythic is hard enough for the mongos I raid with
jovial kite
11/11m clear in 3 hours 
lone junco
lfr is alt fodder. keeps people engaged
jovial kite
world first
polar grail
jelly
bold dune
normal groups definitely don't require 970 ilvl lol
jovial kite
can slack the rest of the reset
bold dune
but if the reqs are too high it would be an issue with TF more than anything
strange python
m+ time jack
jovial kite
lul def no
bold dune
so it's really a separate issue
keen inlet
@bold dune it's not that you need that ilvl to clear. It's that the pug leaders require it, or say they do, or w/e
because everybody wants an easy 1-shot speedrun carry
polar grail
"weekly speed run 990+ ilvl gogogog"
keen inlet
exactly.
spare nebula
Meanwhile my group of Mongos can't kill immonar after 80 wipes π¦
bold dune
I understand, but I got into a normal coven group yesterday for my weekly that required 940
keen inlet
There are "we're learning" groups but they don't do well
I'm sure you also have AOTC tho, nelbur
which is your gateway pass into groups anyway
polar grail
@spare nebula that was my group last two weeks, I took a week off and they downed it
lone junco
I got declined to a +8 on my rogue the other day. was good feels. they wanted BBC DEEPS GOD
shrewd oriole
How do you not have aotc by now
bold dune
I have CE lol but that's beside the point
strange python
gotta keep those offpieces so you look 970 even tho 958
lone junco
was prob best I didnt pug anyone wanting bbc deeps god
spare nebula
I can't take time off because we barely scrape 20 together.
lone junco
yeah i have 967 poison
gaunt moat
!unmute @quick talon
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@quick talon is no longer π here! He/she can speak π΅ now!
spare nebula
Xpac fatigue
jovial kite
bold dune
like I said, if a group is requiring 970 for normal, that's an issue with TF imo
hoary copper
I dont have aotc now. most want aotc to do hc
bold dune
not here to discuss anecdotal evidence regarding whether or not groups actually require that
brisk forge
Nah just ppl that are greedy
shrewd oriole
Of course people ask for aotc to do hc
strange python
its also an issue with tier bonuses. normal is insufferable with 930 people without tier
shrewd oriole
I donβt wanna carry prople
polar grail
recruiting this late in the xpac sucks ass too
lone junco
people ask for aotc for normal lol
keen inlet
Need aotc to get Aotc
π€
hoary copper
Or 965+ for hc isnt uncommon
spare nebula
@polar grail yep.
shrewd oriole
Not 20 weeks in
drifting crypt
doesnt have AotC 3 months after release and wants to get carried by overgeared people?
bold dune
every solid raider got AotC the first week of this tier, given how undertuned heroic was
spare nebula
I joined a hc group that said they required aotc on my 963 alt yesterday. Only 4 people were above 1m on dogs
keen inlet
This is my bad for encouraging it
spare nebula
I bounced.
keen inlet
We should move the "casual" debate to #off-topic
bold dune
if you're looking for ppl on your lvl it makes sense to require AotC
keen inlet
pls & ty
lone junco
every solid raider got AotC the first week
"Solid"
brisk forge
Better to check logs if you wanna have "good" ppl but yea...
lone junco
we cleared normy in 1 night if that counts.
polar grail
at this point I just avoid Ragnaros Raid leaders and join whatever
keen inlet
Leeeeeeeeeet's move this to general
lone junco
im not 3k. no +8 for me.
spare nebula
Back on topic: I finally got a decent hc gorothi parse. 
shrewd oriole
Lul
polar grail
aye aye rear admiral
jovial kite
@bold dune first day :p
spare nebula
2.34 mil
bold dune
meh depends on how late you raided and how many splits you did
jovial kite
we did 2 splits
brisk forge
Not to bad just up to 2.6 and you are Gucci π
keen inlet
@spare nebula What was your PB %
mossy light
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brisk forge
I got a rank 4 on vari a few weeks back with like 18% pb so pb can make you god but that dosent mean i play good π
strange python
how dead is your realm @lone junco
jovial kite
@brisk forge spot on π€·πΏ
lone junco
medium.
strange python
swapped from darkspear ally to stormrage and honestly feels so good lmao
went from fighting for a raidspot to people fighting for raiders
spare nebula
@keen inlet 12.4%
polar grail
Destromath (thunderlord connected) is straight up dead, I might swap for BFA
spare nebula
Yeah. Bummertown
strange python
you're 49 im 59 hellu
brisk forge
Feels great π
polar grail
do you use alacrity to do it?
shrewd notch
can confirm. eonar_irl
jovial kite
π€·πΏ
shrewd oriole
Not u
spare nebula
me?
shrewd oriole
Ye
strange python
holy kill time
lone junco
we 3T 5H
strange python
ahhh ok makes sense
spare nebula
yeah i was just happy to break the 2.3m barrier. I was doing some majorly shit things with TB
jovial kite
i also had fear there 
spare nebula
so feels good to see results from fixing that
jovial kite
0 stacks btw
spare nebula
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
strange python
we actually wiped a few times because our dps was too high and we couldnt heal the 2 add strat
lone junco
we have 4 or 5 hunters. 2locks so the cc goes out ezpz
polar grail
what did you do wrong with TB?
strange python
pulling 2 adds in instead of 1 so they dont overlap on 2nd add phase
spare nebula
@shrewd oriole cant tell if you were being serious or not :p sorry if sarcasm went over my head
strange python
i think on our kill we did that but idk, i only really pay attention to adds if someone is yelling for a blind
whats up with dastoric? i havent really payed attn to him
polar grail
@spare nebula what did you change about your TB usage?
spare nebula
Prioritized getting 2-3 envenoms in each window. Planned my rupture / garrote timers better to allow for it
shrewd oriole
Sarcasm
spare nebula
let myself refresh rupture either before pandemic or at 3 CPs if necessary (obviously 4+ is the goal but not at the expense of a solid TB window)
lone junco
@spare nebula you got the opener right, but that massive peak at the tail could have been bigger.
when stuff aligns back up, you can run it the same way
spare nebula
i was being a 
and TBing into rupture / garrote and not envenoming
lone junco
polar grail
nice
spare nebula
@lone junco thx dude, yeah i think i just got antsy or something
lone junco
prob has things ready and didnt want to wait a few ticks.
it happens.
you were given the gift of 
strange python
@lone junco what happened with the other rogue in this guild?
polar grail
you still bleed noobe?
lone junco
ye
polar grail
mad man
lone junco
@strange python my guild or yours?
strange python
mine
lone junco
oh. his dps is just like 600k under yours.
strange python
hes a new rogue methinks
spare nebula
this view actually helped highlight where i was fucking up the most @polar grail https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MbXRwavYtLnjKTfP#fight=5&type=casts&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%241%240.0.0.Any%24140058459.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24245389^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%241%240.0.0.Any%24140058459.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24192759&source=12
strange python
an officer or something, idk as long as i outparse him and keep my raidspot ill be keen. i think there are like 4 rogues on this roster
spare nebula
sorry for long url
spare nebula
you can zoom in on the TB windows to see how i prioritized as many envenoms as possible
lone junco
I would worry more that you dropped like 2 or 3 TB for fight duration
spare nebula
problem with gorothi is i didnt want to use TB on the weapons
they die too quickly
so only get like half a tb
lone junco
absolutely
spare nebula
or half a kb
strange python
with boots and 3ma you can get 2 vendettas a platform
quick talon
π
spare nebula
anyway, id rather be at this stage where its fine tuning things, than where i was
quick talon
free!
lone junco
Garothi timing is great for exang. just not god mode.
strange python
exsang has great timing for most fights
lone junco
aggramar lines ok. I just cloak the flames. Portal boss is a shitter.
some times imonar gets 2 exang during bracer on the last phase.
strange python
really? with the group im in rn i can do one combo ->portal combo ->boss ->portal
lone junco
ah. we send melee to portls each time.
strange python
yeah but i get a combo before portal and one inside
jovial kite
for my guild imonar and garothi are shit for exsang
cds come up just after intermission for garothi
and you cant really put ur cds on the cannons
strange python
put it on the one nobody is hitting :^)
jovial kite
same thing for imonar, i get cds up like 5-10 sec before intermission
and you cant blow your cds there either
lone junco
alt healing was gross.
strange python
damn that bites
thankfully our dps is 'good but it isnt great'
makes me look good
lone junco
mine is always top 2 in our raid.
strange python
yeah no thanks i only moved one toon to this server so i dont have to alt-heal or alt-tank anything
strange python
i try to stay top 5 ish
are you only ST'ing? or step double dotting
also beating an afflock help
lone junco
I double before the exang.
and refresh before swap.
its not 100% but i do ok
like dogs, I only double during the orb phase.
strange python
oh ok i see, thats what i was doing also. we have a dps tank night tho so i dot one up and then step the other and exsang combo it
idk if its the best but ive gotten ~ok parses on it
strange python
if you stacked the whole time might be worth it
lone junco
coven is siff tho. some reasonable overlap
I try to keep up dots on bosses during flame adds and ass they pass by
lone junco
we dont stack at all.
jovial kite
that was stacked for lust only
strange python
oh damn
jovial kite
iirc
strange python
with full stack i think you can get 3m
lone junco
pb opener.
lost mist
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/AQ8VT4Ba2tdpNbxG/1/3
what should i have done to get 100? -.-
strange python
actually i think it mightve been like part of a PB when they accidentally stacked them
oh nvm was a storm
bahaha
lone junco
@lost mist
anyway. I dont think ill be able to push my bleed up any higher. prob stuck 2.1m max range.
strange python
whats keeping you stagnant?
strange python
thats true
lone junco
my barb neck is 935 socket. beats 950 Crit/vers.
jovial kite
just got 970 vulcanarcore
strange python
nasty
jovial kite
waited 2+ months
strange python
over what classes gee whiz
jovial kite
and we do farm on personal loot
so when it did, someone else needed it
and i finally got it
strange python
mythic on personal loot sweats
prime void
It's so red in here
jovial kite
when progress is over theres no need to appoint loot
prime void
I had to break it up
jovial kite
i've been for close to 2 months
viscid helm
π
prime void
Flowi is a meme at this point, not even a player π
jovial kite
well he dont need to play anymore π€·πΏ
quick talon
I like how he afk'd in the pod today
gaunt moat
have you seen how easily memento killed argus yesterday without flowi?
lone junco
didnt they wipe a ton?
lone junco
ah. someone was bitching about farm wipes. besides me.
when our shadow goes disc to cover for Hpal vaca, it's not necessarily a good thing
strange python
yikes
good healers are taken for granted though
ive learned that trialing recently
lone junco
they overlap too. so their logs can look shitty,
when one is gone the other looks like a god. when both are gone we cry
strange python
steathjr @ darkspear is one of the best logging druids ive seen
but he gets 2 wisdoms
shrewd oriole
Healer logs btw
strange python
not 2healing heroic
lone junco
I ran with a SPK alt run in H-ToS that had a Main hpal. was 30 in raid, and he single healed it.
Player/dmg/heal ratios are funny.
was before antorus opened, but point is still valid
slim estuary
My guild wiped 15 times on farm AHC last night! What a joke right
shrewd oriole
Hc or M
strange python
mythic i hope
shrewd oriole
I just wanna know how many exclamation marks to use when I say gee kiwi
zealous dew
kiwi kiwi kiwi
slim estuary
M
Itβs not prog anymore but apparently ranged are disabled and a big ass green thing on the ground βcanβt be avoidedβ
jovial kite
legit aggra
37m with all buffs
https://gyazo.com/8ffc062dba401a92dbbb97228586f567?token=c686c779ed6c7e22b09702d11ab6480c
zealous dew
π
jovial kite
only thing better could've been rupture crit highroll
strange python
thats disgusting
jovial kite
vanish pot vendetta concordance murderous pantheon buff and double dogtrink buff and bota
i wont, because it scuffs my aoe
zealous dew
π¦
strange python
what was the biggest tick
jovial kite
2.761
strange python
i had a rupture highroll hit 2.78 im trying to find
the overall log wasnt good but i think thats the highest ive seen my own rupture hit
jovial kite
i've had 3.5+ but with external buffs like kinga add and titanforging argus
jovial kite
it could've been bigger if pantheon trinket and double dogs were up for 100% of the rupture
you look at rupture dmg graph
see the biggest peak and then zoom in on that peak
you keep zooming until you see rupture casts 1
jovial kite
this is how you see all the details
and you've zoomed too much
so it doesnt show the whole rupture cast
there it is
lone junco
@jovial kite have you been fishing or just happen to bang out the bota at vanish?
jovial kite
wasnt fishing
decided to just go for it since i had buffs u
p
im the only exsang player in top 100 on argus and aggra
jovial kite
next exsang at rank 486 on aggra
jovial kite
i linked the buffs
they were at the last 6 sec on
dog trinkets
concordance was 88%
obsidian notch
Is raidfinder convergence better than 930 fang ?
jovial kite
and amanthul was first 3 seconds
@obsidian notch you should sim it, but id say fang is better
lone junco
conc is the biggest contribution during bota i think
slim estuary
I oranged M dogs last night, can I have a green name?
jovial kite
@gaunt moat
gaunt moat
?
jovial kite
make papa g grant green
amber sleet
I hate the green color
gaunt moat
done π
lone junco
rip
amber sleet
π¦
zealous dew
hax
strange python
just got a 20k coins of air proc π€
jovial kite
if you want to farm coins of air
you shouldnt finish the quest you're given to find the 5 different items by pickpocketing
instead, go in a raidgroup and keep pickpocketing
you get the coins from the items (which is bigger than normal items) and you wont get progress towards the quest
so you can loot the quest items infinite times
iirc they gave 5-10k each
supple hearth
I did the pick pocketing stuff weekly in WoD cause nothing else to do and made quite a bit of money off it. When they rereleased it in legion there's like 1 toy - what like a barrel of eyepatches or something that is new I already had everything else collected. So I've never actually bothered with the pickpocketing coins of air thing....they should have made new rewards other than recycling the same stuff
gray crest
so im simming my assassin rogue with poison build and its saying that legendary boots are better than wrists
dim sigil
civic palm
Finishers @ 4
jovial kite
you should always aim for 4
strange python
roujin you never finished that thought did you die
hazy iron
I'm after some advice on Argus prog - obviously wrists aren't useful until we consists you hit 30%, so I'm looking for another combo. Boots screw up my cooldown timings. Is it worth using ravenholdt? In song want to use belt because that,'ll change our initial push timing..
Consistently ****
Dont** fuck this phone
Righto so I should just keep wrists? I was using prudes cos I figured it wouldn't screw around with timings, but my RL grilled me for it
hazy iron
Oh my god
lone junco
@hazy iron if you arent getting to Execute and want something for progress pulls go insig
hazy iron
Prydaz
lone junco
shoulder prydaz would work as well
nimble tartan
put on 0 legendaries to truly show your alphaness
hazy iron
Haha
turbid harbor
unequip a ring for progress so you can get a nice ilvl log when you kill it
hazy iron
lol
lucid carbon
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G93wBz2hNWjnfDZt/#fight=13&view=rankings does high command count?
strange python
ayy
turbid harbor
i fall asleep every night clutching my phone looking at my ilvl parses
lucid carbon
I dress naked, show them to my gf and have sex.
strange python
sigh
turbid harbor
nice
devout radish
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strange python
we dont have a healer on the 3rd add so justthinking
solemn mason
hey guys should i wait till SoT or evas buff falls off before i mutilate again?
drifting cloud
but how do you not have a healer on the add
or well why are you on that add as a rogue, isnt that a warlock add usually
solemn mason
or so i juts mutilate when at 4-5 combo pointsx
drifting cloud
isnt it better to just kill a different add slightly faster
then you can have a gateway to that one
strange python
im not sure tbh i normally just do heroic stuff, just helping the guild out tonight. strat they're using requires all 3 to die at same time
calm tulip
Should I hold envenoms for the 100% surge of toxins uptime or just spam envenom at 4+ if I can?
drifting cloud
thats a weird strat
strange python
well not at same time but all 3 die before they need to be tanked (?)
drifting cloud
nah thats not true
thats actually not that easy to do
usually you kill 2 then the other one gets tanked for a few seconds just depends on dmg
strange python
o i c, dunno just kinda going where he tells me lmao
drifting cloud
but if you are progging no way you kill all 3 adds before they come active
atleast not every wave
maybe 1st and lust wave
strange python
i dont mind being on this add because of that full vendetta time but ye dont wanna die
and just getting pre-hots is becoming sketchy
drifting cloud
dont think you can live 20s+ without heals
obsidian notch
is the legendary cloak usefull somewhere ?
drifting cloud
not for assa
obsidian notch
ty
sullen dust
Just tried exsang now that I have my 4 set and legendaries and I can't believe I've ever not run it. I'm in love
strange python
2p4p?
sullen dust
I wish, I'll be farming the 2p soon
sullen dust
I did a normal tomb today first and only got relics but I'll be living the dream soon enough
strange python
oh ye and 3x MAss relics too
astral sundial
hey guys, on AHC is it better to use vanish for adds instead of trying to line it up with vendetta? how many adds do I need to have alive in order for it to be worth it?
obsidian notch
Why none of the top parses have the exang build ?
strange python
@obsidian notch because its not a popular build and its harder to gear than poison
jovial kite
@obsidian notch nobody plays it
im the only one in top 100 on m aggramar and m argus
last time i checked, rank 17 aggra and rank 39 argus
lost arch
For heroic and mythic farm portal keeper % cheesing, is it worth saving the first vendetta for the first portal add so it lines up with its 35% HP?
quick talon
Doubt
jovial kite
@strange python we dont usually kill the adds
so i probably will never get rank 1 on aggramar
strange python
@jovial kite which one do you think out of the 11 you could get a r1 on
vari mayb?
jovial kite
i have a rank 1 coven
strange python
neat
shrewd oriole
I think itβs hard to beat high rollers on pure st fights
jovial kite
exsang is superior in cleave
shrewd oriole
As bleed
shrewd oriole
Aka coven
jovial kite
and dogs
jovial kite
no
shrewd oriole
I donβt think you can best opener pb and then split from poison
jovial kite
you have windows where nothing happen where you can rupture both
shrewd oriole
fair
jovial kite
well yeah
honestly stacks m dogs for whole fight
so if that becomes the trend exsang prolly will never get rank 1
strange python
stacking m dogs sounds terrifying
shrewd oriole
So exsang is a lot better
jovial kite
but yeah
if you want ranks play poison
i play exsang because its more consistent
and does higher dps more often on average
obsidian notch
what are the gear differences ?
sullen dust
what 15 talent do you usually go for?
spare cloud
depends on specc
sullen dust
i meant for the bleed build
spare cloud
EP
sullen dust
ah alright, thanks
tepid ridge
hi guys, does 5 PK traits change anything in ST rotation?
amber sleet
You're a bit too late with PK traits, sadly
tepid ridge
it's ok it's an upgrade even out of this PK trait sadly
fok at 3 CP > mut at 3 cp.
?
quick talon
with 5 PKs, according to sims, yes
i'd try to get rid of the pk relics asap
get some bb's rolling
tepid ridge
ok good to know ^^
same but rngesus isn't with me tonigh :/
does raidbot / simc takes this tricky rotation in consideration or not?
feral flare
I get confused when people refer to it as "5 x- traits" You have the traits in your Artifact which get maxed out so its irrelevant. So this "5 x trait" is referring to relics and I ask... how?
feral flare
Eh... I guess. It just eludes me is all.
Ive not even looked at that artifact tree in months. Its just been a rng game for relics.
tepid ridge
haha yeah :p
feral flare
Speaking of which
tepid ridge
ty for the answer btw guys keep the good work going this discord is awesome π
feral flare
How... bad is it that I have zero Master Assassin traits on my relics?
Just 3x MasterAlch
drifting cloud
its not that bad
feral flare
And only one Master of Shadows sadly
drifting cloud
1 is nice to have
tepid ridge
1 is nice, 3 is perfect but rly hard to aim without loosing malch
feral flare
Ill see a 965 relic drop with either MasterAss or MasterAlch as the first trait, then open it up in the crucible where a im then repeatedly kicked in the dick.
Wish there was a way to relroll crucible traits
reroll*
Is there a way to quickly get 960+ relics other then farming ABT? Like if I were to start farming M+15s instead?
tiny frigate
Hey, I read the guide but was wondering about 3 combo points with no rupture refresh needed. Do you normally mutilate or envenom at that point?
tiny frigate
yeah, 4+ is pretty straightforward but I find myself with 3 a lot without a rupture to refresh or any of the 1 cp generating
abilities ready
manic vigil
icy trout
lol
shrewd oriole
Give the noggin some joggin
olive hamlet
Hey guys is there a "AoE burst" for m+ as assa with moonglaives ?
feral flare
I find myself Envenoming at 3cp every now and then to keep Env up. Is that something that I should not do?
feral flare
Yeah thats usually when I do it.
Also I would consider chilling out just a bit. People come here to ask questions. Deal with it.
shrewd oriole
Thanks for the advice mate
shrewd oriole
Hey dude
quick talon
β€
feral flare
All good. No need for an attitude is all.
quick talon
ye i watched it
shrewd oriole
Did you watch both
quick talon
its 5min dude
fallow basalt
how much crit should I aim for assassination?
shrewd oriole
Thereβs no magic number
bronze rapids
So I am returning to rogue and going to gear him a bit before next expansion, what should my opener look like for the most part?
solid nova
Guide in the pins
shrewd oriole
Check pins
bronze rapids
oh ok lol sorry
spare cloud
Hey guys
quick talon
ππΏ
quick talon
you could talk in #off-topic
shrewd oriole
Did you like the video
pearl widget
Greetings!!!
austere tendon
@strange python only the initial. The time trial stage allows us to pick whatever we want in whatever role.
pearl widget
Just started playing rogue for about 3 weeks now I'm following Icy Veins but I'm also using AskMrRobot for gear simming
strange python
ohyikes
pearl widget
AskMrRobot keeps giving me Mastery Crit
but I know that Mastery Vers. are my main stats
why is it simming me for mastery crit?
quick talon
Do not follow icy veins
austere tendon
@pearl widget have a look at pinned guids. Much better than icey-veins
quick talon
also get rid of AMR
austere tendon
also sim with raid bots.
strange python
scrub rogue what about after time trials
quick talon
use raidbots.com
austere tendon
After time tiral you still get the same freedom.
tacit bay
anyone can help me with some assasination logs? I dont understand why my dmg sucks
strange python
oh neat, just wasnt sure
plain thistle
but if you have T21 its very likely that its mastery/crit and not mastery/versa
austere tendon
yeah so as an example. I got through on my rogue to the time trial. and I will be playing rogue - dh - warlock for the time trial.
strange python
and whats after the time trial?
i should probably read up on this after laundry lmao
just want to be able to follow it
austere tendon
and if by some miracle I make it through time trial, (lul never) its straight to the tournament $$$$$
austere tendon
top 8 of the time tiral in each region battle it out.
strange python
so is it basically the highest in time keys during time trial?
austere tendon
no
drifting cloud
no its fixed keys
strange python
or the fastest of a certain numbner
drifting cloud
done fastest
strange python
1 try? or fixed amount
austere tendon
unlimited.
strange python
aye neat
drifting cloud
its 1 week time right
austere tendon
which is why I will be playing 3 different classes.
yes. 1 week
basically, we ge tto do some bonkers pulls and try and RNG it out. hahahaha
drifting cloud
cant wait for people to do that 20 maw under 10min
strange python
nelths is the most bitch
strange python
oh shit thats gross
austere tendon
so, we pull everything to first pull and pop hero.
Cloak + turtle the debuff and heal trhough 3 other people.
strange python
yeah the guy right before helya
strange python
can you pull a whole side, i avoid maw p much
austere tendon
we will be doing a lot of bonker pulls.
yeah at 20 Fort, you can blow up most trash inside 10-15 seconds
so we might just pull the whole 1 side, stun silence, Galives.
drifting cloud
yeah people are gonna do that instance in like 5 pulls
spare cloud
@gusty kestrel Yes its horde
shrewd oriole
Oh right
austere tendon
this is under the assumption that the ilvl will be 960 gear
strange python
man HoV would be a fun time trial
austere tendon
if they made it like... 940 ilvl gear. then maybe not as crazy. hahaha
austere tendon
yeah i am pretty sure it will be.
yes i highly doubt it will be 940. I was just making a point.
I can't wait for 960 glaives.
ive been rocking 930 glaives π¦
austere tendon
so last time, leech, avoidance, speed ratio was reduced by 99%
so you legit got no benefits from it.
shrewd oriole
A 23/24 is easy when youβre 975 but
strange python
doesnt that make brewmaster kinda useless
shrewd oriole
That shit is tough if youβre 960
How does it make brewmaster useless
Also brewmaster was already useless
austere tendon
nah thats 960 gear + 1000 ilbl lego + full 960 relics giving a 990~ ilvl weapon
strange python
or which tank basically needs leech to do anything
austere tendon
basically, everyone will be like ilvl 970
yeah our comp is a meme
R shammy healer
:D::D:D:D:D:D:D
shrewd oriole
Oh I was saying 960 ilvl
strange python
lul rsham
shrewd oriole
Equipped
austere tendon
but rest is legit. DH, rogue, Boomkin, Hunter
strange python
i was thinking at some point there were tanks that valued leech over primary and secondary stats
austere tendon
like I said, Ill be playing DH too
shrewd oriole
Gear
queen bluff
anyone know how to sim patheon trink count ?
shrewd oriole
0
austere tendon
depending on key, ill be playing different classes.
shrewd oriole
Leech from gear is not great for anyone
Well yeah for healers it is
Itβs not great for any tanks*
Avoidance cap is p nice in shit like argus
austere tendon
press feint. gg
strange python
oh ok, idk i havent tanked in a few expacs. my rogue has 15% avoidance just sitting in normal gear though
spare cloud
Can you guys help me really quick π
I need a guild on ally antonidas
can you make lvl 1 chars and sign chart
shrewd oriole
Yep
shrewd oriole
Rooting for my guild
strange python
you're gonna make us proud and play sin on upper right
spare cloud
requesting signatures from lvl 1 chars
shrewd oriole
Hope my guildies win
spare cloud
like a cunt
shrewd oriole
I think they have a real chance
austere tendon
22 upper? nah
spare cloud
I just need 2 signatures
austere tendon
I only play sin for upper on 24+ upper
shrewd oriole
But fraggs group is really good too
austere tendon
if we reaaalllyyy need more ST than aoe.
shrewd oriole
And jdotbs
strange python
jdotb's group is going to be tough competition, even without the main guy they run with and that synergy
shrewd oriole
Yβall better cheer for my guilds group tho, itβs the highest rio rogue participating
Xd
spare cloud
Tom
make a char on ally antonidas male/female human
and stand in the starting area
shrewd oriole
Not on the pc
shrewd oriole
I personally think it comes down to 3 teams
Jdott, fragβs or divineβs (my guildβs)
I think those have been the 3 best teams for a while
Of course
A s h i n Γ©
Of course there could be a free Marcy situation
Where an underdog wins but
Idk
austere tendon
what? nah me best. me good dmg. me win $200000
spare cloud
I think Musclebrahs team is going to win
spare cloud
yeah but last mdi musclebrahs had good players
this time it will show that hes not good enough
oh wait
shrewd oriole
Lul
spare cloud
I feel like a dick requesting guild signatures from randoms who just made the char
strange python
i need jdotb to win so that NA wins something
shrewd oriole
Yeah
Uses drums for people
Donβt delete that
Iβll say it
Drjay is a disgusting dps whore
strange python
us or eu
spare cloud
eu
shrewd oriole
I hope not
strange python
nvm srry
shrewd oriole
I hate musclebrag
I hate drjay
Yeah lol
If I had to place my bets Iβd say frags team
spare cloud
I'm cheering for my guilds team
tranquil birch
Lol what discord is that?
marble hemlock
blake doesnt need to theorycraft?
shrewd oriole
Heβs probably not gonna play mdi
spare cloud
Seliathan
shrewd oriole
According to him
marble hemlock
no
shrewd oriole
What do you play seliathan?
marble hemlock
lineup-wise?
marble hemlock
did qualifier with VDH, RSham, Assarogue, Firemage, Boomy
shrewd oriole
Yikes
austere tendon
ehy another R shammy hahaha
marble hemlock
#1 rsham, #1 assarogue, gonna be hype as fuck
shrewd oriole
What overall rank is the assa rogue tho
strange python
why rsham tho, a good player? or just a meme
shrewd oriole
Xd
strange python
play outlul for maw, gotta mix it up
shrewd oriole
Rsham could work
marble hemlock
theyve been pushing with rsham for quite some time
marble hemlock
did a few worldfirsts too
shrewd oriole
Idk
marble hemlock
but then their dps transferred horde
marble hemlock
so they had an opening for me, only had to xfer alliance and back to horde last week for the qualifier π
austere tendon
the time tiral keys are pretty ok for R shammy though
shrewd oriole
The room for mistake is nonexistent
Yeah talking about the competition itself
Rsham obv has less room for mistakes
austere tendon
nothing super OP for shammy to not be able to heal through
marble hemlock
rsham is fine, has great cooldowns and does like 700k dps singletarget with little to no effort
marble hemlock
cant really push further than that though, but its not needed
spare cloud
Thanks whoever it was
austere tendon
and most boss fights the shammy can just equip dps gear set up for decent dmg.
shrewd oriole
Their defensives are trash
manic vigil
it wasa me, mario
marble hemlock
i trust his healing capabilities, they were pushing 25s and 26s intime 2 months ago
spare cloud
gotta turn it in quickly before someone deletes his character
shrewd oriole
P poggers
marble hemlock
mage is probably gonna play arcane in mos
shrewd oriole
Tyra dht as whammy tho
manic vigil
marble hemlock
gonna be fun
shrewd oriole
Tyra dht as whammy is what doesnβt sound fun
marble hemlock
we did a 25 dht last week, wasnt tyra but still rough damage on dresaron
shrewd oriole
I get ankh is a defensive
shrewd oriole
Bit rng on feeds nah?
marble hemlock
it always is
shrewd oriole
TouchΓ©
austere tendon
feeds is rough depending on the comp
shrewd oriole
Did u play cheat or elusive
austere tendon
more than just the healers.
austere tendon
yeah elusive for days
marble hemlock
i do
austere tendon
ditto.
austere tendon
elussive + pyrdaz on some of the higher stuff. lul.
shrewd oriole
I play double ring on Xavius
shrewd oriole
The meme build
shrewd oriole
But either way I play mostly hunter in m+ these days
austere tendon
yeah I run it since the dps difference was only 200 K
marble hemlock
worst case is xavius/hyrja, where i run 20% avoidance, try to maximize versa and use the arcway tanktrinket or aggramar tanktrinket, depending on boss
but the rest should be all out dps
austere tendon
so, if I can 100% live. rather than save 200K dps, id rather that
marble hemlock
thats why you bring a rogue, so someone is still putting out 2mil+ dps while not requiring externals
austere tendon
yeah I dont have any tank trinkets on rogue π¦
oh I can still do 2mil with prydaz.
thats easy.
marble hemlock
its still a significant loss
prydaz on xavius does nothing anyway
since the dispellable dot just eats it
austere tendon
RNG life π
marble hemlock
and on hyrja you survive either one of the abilities, and if you get both and dont have cloak, youre dead even with prydaz+tanktrinket :/
austere tendon
or I could be a hunter and just out range the dam thing.
marble hemlock
doesnt work reliably anymore
austere tendon
seemed to be working for us last week?
marble hemlock
sometimes you can still get it, but our mage basically blinked instantly and still got it every time last week
marble hemlock
hunter can just feign death tho