assassination

[zealous dew]

rip

[strange python]

hope you got lots of avoidance too

[zealous dew]

maybe pala can heal that easily

[strange python]

the adds before skovald

=/

[zealous dew]

not fortified, all cool

[strange python]

oh yeah, that was last week

derp

[zealous dew]

skovald room covered by flames

😄

[strange python]

hah

[faint vale]

Grievous isnt that bad if you only take non avoidable damage. It only is aids when everyone is constantly taking a lot of random damage

[strange python]

Is dreadlords deceit worth using for trash?

[faint vale]

Not as assa

[strange python]

😦

bracers are so boring

[faint vale]

Its pk doing the damage, not fok

[strange python]

yeah

What trinket do you get for trash pulls?

[zealous dew]

well i did cos 22 last night on rogue

[strange python]

i use a 945 eye for ST

[zealous dew]

struggled to do decent dmg

switched to lock for vault 22

easy mode 3.5 overall

[strange python]

some are saying get a hunter to grab me the trinket off command?

[kindred forge]

Learn to PB

[zealous dew]

yeah it's so broken in m+

fear the explosive orb to proc sephuz is the dumbest thing ever

why they don't fix that shit

[strange python]

I havent got it yet, but how is the trinket off kingorath, the mines one

[shrewd night]

Id believe its trashtier

[strange python]

hmm

[shrewd night]

But dont take my word for it

[zealous dew]

yeah not great

[strange python]

trying to find a nice MT trinket

[faint vale]

Glaive and golg are the ones I use

[zealous dew]

you can use GO + ssf / eoe high / glaives / voidstalker

[kindred forge]

As Sin you should use SSF even on trash

[shrewd night]

Voidstalker?

[strange python]

ssf?>

[zealous dew]

yep from seat

[shrewd night]

But. Why.

[faint vale]

Ssf is trash for sin always

Its only good for sub

[zealous dew]

does its dmg for some packs

ssf is very good for sin

[strange python]

OH sweeping

i ahve a 955, its trash for sin

[faint vale]

So why is my 975 lower then 960 fangand 945 EoC

[strange python]

mastery stat stick would be better anyway,

[zealous dew]

SSF is fang

[strange python]

i currently use SSF for MT, not a fan, but it was also a shit group for the 20 i did

[faint vale]

Oh my bad. Thought seeping scourge wing. Never heared ssf for fang

[strange python]

oh im thinking of wing

My b

I have an 18 seat, my try and get voidstalkers and check it out

[zealous dew]

seat this week 😄

well 18 is ok

[solar willow]

i actually got an upgrade from chest

[frozen pecan]

what did you get?

[solar willow]

960 mastery crit neck

[frozen pecan]

nais

[strange python]

yeah seat will be a bitch, but its just an 18

[solar willow]

it was 6k upgrade ^^

i'll take it

[zealous dew]

i got BB + strangler relic

nice crystal

[strange python]

Plus Sin + tyrannical is fun fun

fun week for us

[zealous dew]

yeah not bad, i feel sorry for healers though

[solar willow]

don't get in groups with druids

[strange python]

they knew what they signed up for

thats why i choose to reverse heal

[solar willow]

only pallys

[zealous dew]

i healed 16 dht wasn't that bad

my pala is only 950 though

[solar willow]

i'm talking about 20+ keys

15 keys are non existent

[zealous dew]

a lot more stressful than last week though

[solar willow]

you can 3 man a +15

[strange python]

ye 20 is stressful

[zealous dew]

well it's an alt 😃

[strange python]

So i guess to sum up yalls answers, for a good MT sin trinket, Shoot for the high command ranged agi trinket, or get voidstalkers

or fang

[faint vale]

Dont forget glaives from sisters in ToV.

[strange python]

yes

[solar willow]

i always run glaives

[strange python]

glaives and SSF

[solar willow]

but as sub

cuz sin sucks

[strange python]

new sub is garbage

[faint vale]

Tbf you shouldnt play sin in m+ in the first place

[strange python]

TBF im not trying to be a top M+

[faint vale]

Was only good when you stacked pk relics

[strange python]

just enjoy doing 20s

if i was hardcore, id swap, but im not

[shrewd night]

20s

[solar willow]

@strange python stop talking nonsense

[strange python]

??

[solar willow]

sub is not garbage

[strange python]

i meant personally, i hate it compared to previous versions of sub

i loved HFC sub

[zealous dew]

I play sin in m+ 😃 it's not bad, it's just worse than sub

[shrewd night]

TBF, you enjoyed HFC sub because of the trinket

[strange python]

its def worse than sub, no doubt

Fuck yes @shrewd night was so much fun ambushing for 8 million with vanish

I also loved combat too, SND outlaw is fun, probably gonna run that in BFA M+

bones is too janky

[solar willow]

sin performs better in raids than sub and sub performs more consistently and where you want it to perform in m+

but overall both specs are viable

[strange python]

pretty sure outlaw will always be the MT spec with bladeflurry though...

i dont see that changing

[shrewd night]

You might not see that changing, point is still that deciding on a spec before the finishing touches of beta is hilarious at best

[strange python]

damn, how did you get so high up there?

[median marsh]

I got a question: on Mythic Coven, should I rupture 1-2 bosses + 1 add then focus him? or should I run around and rupture every add?

If I run around I can usually rupture + garotte with thuggee

(I meant fire adds)

[shrewd night]

Nah, just focus on add, there is enough to fuck up on that fight if you keep running around

*one

[faint vale]

Bladeflury is fucked in bfa atm. 10s uptime, 30s cd

[median marsh]

ok

and mainly I should keep rupture on both bosses, right?

[shrewd night]

No.

[median marsh]

🤔

[shrewd night]

Or rather, depends on how good your tanks are

[strange python]

higher parses have rupture on 2 bosses

[faint vale]

Tisumi giving coven tips and still havent killed it yet

Your rogue killed it?

[shrewd night]

Wew lad

[solid nova]

https://gyazo.com/2b63e4a510c111215cde1d97e878333c

Why

[zealous dew]

gratz

[shrewd night]

Dw richard, I got haste crit pants

[kindred forge]

Rnjesus tell you to go Outlaw

[strange python]

do you SND or RtB?

[shrewd night]

High haste -> RTB. High crit/vers -> SND.

[solar willow]

there are so many acronyms for all the spells i get confused what is what

[strange python]

fake it till you make it

[solar willow]

i have to write them down on a paper or smh

[lament pawn]

Can i cloak vari necrotic and shadowstep into the group?

[solar willow]

wut

heroic?

[indigo idol]

scenario: i got 5 cp, medium energy(around 60) and toxic blade is about to be up. 1) env -> tb or 2) tb -> env

[lament pawn]

Ye hc

[solar willow]

@indigo idol doing either doesn't change anything i think

the outcome is still the same

depends on your surge of toxins

if it's dropped off or about to drop off

if you have kingsbane on the target or not

and if your both poisons have enough amount of time left so they don't need re apply

[brisk forge]

@indigo idol Just pick alac and you dont need to worry about TB 😉

But its crazy tho how good alac works out and make the playstyle so smooth, like earlie in the expansion

And it Sims only 40k below TB but so worth it to have fun when argus M is dead xD

[dire spoke]

[shrewd night]

Zempai halp pls

[dire spoke]

sup

there was nothing to miss

also I just woke up

[frozen pecan]

just woke up @ 11 am 🤔

[median marsh]

you need anything particular for alac build?

[frozen pecan]

it's mid week lul

don't u have something to do?

I'm just jelly

or with no work

[median marsh]

how high? @gusty kestrel

[frozen pecan]

Kappa

[warm parcel]

eu hc antorus gogo

whos up

[dire spoke]

I think we wanted to run at noon

[shrewd night]

@warm parcel How about running them when normal people ARENT at work

[warm parcel]

Not my run

Blame heidi

[untold sun]

the best allstars rogue on my server is a snd outlaw

[shrewd night]

@glad fractal Im onto you.

[untold sun]

[shrewd night]

Probably not the right person

[warm parcel]

nop

[jovial kite]

@warm parcel when u going? doing alt run now, could join with rogue in 20-30 minutes

[glad fractal]

nani

[shrewd night]

Wew

[warm parcel]

were setting up group

[shrewd night]

This got awkward real quick

[warm parcel]

so whenever were rdy

[jovial kite]

rip

[frozen pecan]

lul

[warm parcel]

we can wait for you I suppose

if youre done in 20

[jovial kite]

i could possibly join with rogue for the last bosses

well, we at eonar so

ill whisp when im done

[glad fractal]

@shrewd night it's as awkward as u want it to be

[jovial kite]

no need to wait

ill join when im free

@warm parcel

[shrewd night]

@glad fractal With you, as awkward as we need to be baby

[warm parcel]

weak#2678 to join

[glad fractal]

hahahha

[cold spoke]

viewer run @warm parcel

[warm parcel]

eeh that would mean Id have to turn on stream

[dire spoke]

I need to sim my pants first

[shrewd night]

Dont let shantal hear you say that Zempai

[dire spoke]

[slim estuary]

Got my first mythic orange on dogs!

[zealous dew]

pants ? !

[dire spoke]

uh oh

[quick ice]

I'm very confused by alacrity. why is this a thing? and why is it super far behind for me?

[zealous dew]

did I just hear pants ?

[warm parcel]

So youve got your own run zempai?

[dire spoke]

tom wanted to host one 12pm I believe

and now I'm torn apart

[cold spoke]

12pm so late

[warm parcel]

Well wake that fucker up

[dire spoke]

@shrewd oriole

[cold spoke]

surely that will wake him up

[dire spoke]

@quick talon

oh wait he's muted right

ahaha

yeah he fine there

we need a whatsapp group

[crystal fox]

tom uses discord in his sleep

[cold spoke]

just whisper weak for an inv if you wanna join hc

[zealous dew]

raid made of 20 rogues?

😃

[warm parcel]

Rogue in 2018

pff

[zealous dew]

poor rogues

[dire spoke]

EP > subt > TB only 40k behind MP > NS > TB now

if I get some boots

I maybe even could let alac happen

ye ye ye

oh god it's iceblock mage

[marble hemlock]

RIP Stephen Hawking :((

what a shit day

[warm parcel]

Iceblock mage

🤔

[dire spoke]

I saw that garothi iceblock

😏

[warm parcel]

Ye so game lag

You can seeme input block before death

[dire spoke]

[sharp viper]

just tried bleedy spec on hc argus, really fun to play but only 5 MAss relics delayed shit a bit (and suboptimal stat weights)

[shrewd night]

Judas

[zealous dew]

bleedy bleedy

[simple python]

Do you just Env > Mut > Env > Mut > Env during mantle vanish? Or is it ok to TB/KB?

[dire spoke]

yes

[simple python]

Lol which one

[shrewd night]

Why would you TB KB in the vanish window

[strange python]

you should do that before vanish

so that the envenoms are hitting heavier

[simple python]

Ah yeah. I was mainly concerned about the combo points aswell

[strange python]

the sin guide explains it very clearly and easy to understand

[simple python]

Not really, ive read it many times

Still has a few edgecases im not sure of

[shrewd night]

What edgecases

[strange python]

but, you should vendetta TB KB then vanish envenom

[dire spoke]

don't let Notter hear that

[strange python]

if everything is lining up perfectly

that guide covers every situation, down to refresh times for dots

[simple python]

I dont think guide touches on vanish enough imo

[sharp tinsel]

BRB im gonna kill my self 👌

[shrewd night]

Why does it need to touch vanish?

[shrewd oriole]

Who pinged me

[shrewd night]

If specced NS, use rupture. If shoulders, do this exact thing always.

Its like

🤷

[strange python]

you vanish for the buff from shoulders...

[gaunt moat]

I don't want to make that an excuse for not covering it... but like.. it seems obvious?

[dire spoke]

Tom, come weak raid

and get iwin

[simple python]

Well my thought process was TB does a shitton of dmg itself so guaranteeing a crit on it during mantle isnt too bad

its not an easy answer for me personally

[shrewd night]

No.

[strange python]

It literally says " if you have shoulders vanish envenom > muti>envenom till buff falls off

[shrewd night]

Three envenoms > *

[simple python]

I get its not, but to say its obvious idk

Yes but thats opener lol

[strange python]

its the same when its off cd....

[shrewd night]

No?

[shrewd oriole]

lol

[simple python]

Either way thanks guys!

[shrewd night]

[strange python]

i thought that guide was pretty meticulous

[shrewd oriole]

It is

[dire spoke]

only IQ400

[shrewd night]

Notter shouldnt only cover the opener, makes everything after the opener ambiguous

[zealous dew]

vanish is per se ambiguos

it's like surfing, you always wait for the perfect wave to come

[shrewd night]

So, never.

[zealous dew]

😄

[dire spoke]

cmon bruh, you no onlinerino yet Tom

[shrewd night]

If Tom comes online you have to struggle with a tank that has 'bad connec ))))))'

[dire spoke]

well at least we had a tank then

[zealous dew]

is there a stream to enjoy ?

[shrewd night]

Why cant you make runs ahead of time, Id have stayed home instead of dying at work 😦

[viscid helm]

helo

[cold spoke]

flowi come hc

[viscid helm]

what hc

[cold spoke]

antorus

[shrewd night]

24 rogs

[viscid helm]

why the fuck are u doing hc

[zealous dew]

Flowi, if you were an austronaut your battle name would be "Alacrity Man"

[cold spoke]

why not 😦

[vestal wren]

hoping for the sick titanforges 🤔

[warm parcel]

flowis coming too

nice

[dire spoke]

uh oh

[zealous dew]

give stream link

[viscid helm]

i can come /follow sure

[rose sapphire]

Guys look at this sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7tLs5dS8Qucg8BymhyMEtj

I mean how can Bloodied Spearhead sim 10k more? It gives Poison Knife as main trait, and the Svirax's Grim Trophy is Master Alch. Is it the 5 ilvls that makes it stronger?

The sim is made on single target 5 min boss fighr

[quick ice]

dark sorrows is pretty bad compared to mos, too

[viscid helm]

dark sorrows is literally 0 dps

[lethal heart]

isnt dark sorrows the one that is decent in aoe

or was it chaotic darkness

[drifting cloud]

its dark sorrows

[rose sapphire]

Hmm dont think its worth removing the trait for 10k extra on single target ye?

[strange python]

Go big or go home

[zealous dew]

spearhead is PK trait

[strange python]

have you ran it several times to see if the results vary on RNG?

[rose sapphire]

10k iterations should be fine

[viscid helm]

not a single fight in antorus has 8y AoE

literally 0 dps

[rose sapphire]

High C?

Felhounds stacked?

Eonar?

[strange python]

high command the adds spread too much

[viscid helm]

eonar isnt a boss

2 targets inst

[strange python]

those dumb legionaires run way the fuck away unless they get gripped

[viscid helm]

isnt*

also who the fuck does hc

[rose sapphire]

Simed again, same result

Im talking about mythic bro 😄

[strange python]

oh my bad

[zealous dew]

there's not only raiding

[strange python]

k well watching mythic HC at the moment and shit still isnt stacked up for any aoe proc to be useful

so dunno what your point was

[dire spoke]

gonna have my panth 1000 today

[night vale]

guys, we are attempting mythic Aggramar tonight... got coven down in 30 attempts. how long realistically should we be looking at to down aggramar?

[viscid helm]

150

[night vale]

yeah guessed something like that!

ty

[strange python]

im gonna price is right him

151

[drifting cloud]

is it true that modules on mythic argus only spawn on people with fear?

[viscid helm]

no

[drifting cloud]

well thats what Limit said atleast and Xyro is afking in the middle of the room with no debuff

hmm

[viscid helm]

Im pretty sure it works similar to the cone

[drifting cloud]

or is it a range thing

[viscid helm]

cant target melee with rage

[drifting cloud]

yeah I know that

but he seemed pretty certain it always prios rages first

I mean fears

..

[viscid helm]

mm

thats gonna take a lot of pulls to confirm

like a lot

[drifting cloud]

you can check his vod from last 10h ago

they do seem to have decent amount of ranged that just stand still with no debuff and blast

[warm parcel]

so any more top parsers for hc eu

[jovial kite]

wheres tom

[gaunt moat]

probably playing with kids

[shrewd night]

Notter right out of the left field

[shrewd oriole]

Notter is correct

[dire spoke]

have fun Tom

(:

[shrewd oriole]

Going home soon anyway

Might go to the gym before going home

[shrewd night]

SwoleTom going to the SwoleGym

[gaunt moat]

just punch kids instead of bag

[open yew]

Some guys like getting their bag punched though

[undone lodge]

Heya guys 🍺

[zealous dew]

hello beer guy

[undone lodge]

Nice day shantal?

[zealous dew]

marvelous

stuck at work till 18

boss shouting

clients shouting

colleagues shouting

phone rings whole day

[solid nova]

Sounds like work

[zealous dew]

yeah but soon I'll be rich

[shrewd oriole]

🤔

It’s not as good as it sounds

[zealous dew]

nothing is good when you need to work to pay the bills

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but paying 60% taxes isn’t fun either

LUL

[zealous dew]

not paying 60

[shrewd oriole]

That’s how much we pay

[zealous dew]

26%

[shrewd oriole]

It sucks

[sharp viper]

the hassle of being rich

[shrewd oriole]

What country are you from?

[zealous dew]

IT

[shrewd oriole]

Nice fascist government btw

HaHAA

[zealous dew]

ehm it's exactly the opposite

[shrewd oriole]

in Italy?

Didn’t y’all just elect a fascist

[zealous dew]

nobody won

we're in a limbo, as usual

[shrewd oriole]

I thought they were gonna join the Berlusconi party

Fair enough

[vestal wren]

italy is nice 🍕 🍝 🍷

[stone sandal]

Best setup on bossfight to figure out what best for AoE/cleave?

[zealous dew]

nah, majority of the votes went to a clown party nobody likes

[sharp viper]

what?

[stone sandal]

I mean, its sure not patchwerk

[shrewd oriole]

Fair

What kind of aoe?

[zealous dew]

yeah fuu Italy is nice, Italians are not

[sharp viper]

oh you are talking about sims

[shrewd oriole]

Waves of adds, consistent multi target

Give us an example

[stone sandal]

Like I want to build my elemental shaman for m+, but wanna know stat weights
Since I have no shaman discord I thiought im gonna ask here

[molten flicker]

change class

[jovial kite]

id pay 60% 100 times over

[molten flicker]

shaman die to everything

[shrewd oriole]

Hectic add cleave 1 min

[jovial kite]

than be a 3rd world shithole

[shrewd oriole]

True

60% is only for the people rich enough that 60% of their wage doesn’t really matter tho

[jovial kite]

its same here in finland

progressive taxation

[shrewd oriole]

And yeah shaman sucks in m+

[jovial kite]

i pay 32% atm

[stone sandal]

lol elemental is beast in m+ 😮

[shrewd oriole]

Damage wise it’s alright

[molten flicker]

not so beast when you're dead on the floor

[shrewd oriole]

Bht it does to everything in high keys

Dies*

It’s clearly not called warlock hunter or Druid

[zealous dew]

i trade stocks, taxation is fixed at 26%

by law

[shrewd oriole]

Oh that’s nice

[zealous dew]

payrolls are taxed according to income

from 23% to 48%

don't remember the brackets though

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah Europe is harsh

[shrewd night]

What do you mean

laughs in oilmoney

[shrewd oriole]

Feels good man it’s not raining today

[shrewd night]

Id like some rain tbh

Get rid of this fucky snow

[shrewd oriole]

Doesn’t really snow that often in London

It sure does rain a lot tho lmao

[zealous dew]

we have sun, close to 18 degrees here, and i'm suck behind 3 fucking monitors making money for someone else

nice life

[shrewd oriole]

Thank fuck I’m going to Brazil at the end of the month tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/288049673325903872/423154475038146561/unknown.png

[zealous dew]

racist

or better, serverist

[shrewd oriole]

😦

Hurt my feelings man

Why are people serverists

[drifting cloud]

(no germans) names his char after a german guy

[zealous dew]

might be the weather on those servers

[drifting cloud]

👌🏿

[lament pawn]

what is the alacrity build u guys were talking about?

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm

[calm grail]

It's probably the bestest build ever.

Only sheeple use TB.

[shrewd oriole]

True

[zealous dew]

most bestest ever ?

[lament pawn]

Is there any in depth guide about that build cause i dont understand

[amber quail]

Go there and eat abara to Dinha in Rio Vermelho for me plz 😎

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha alright noted

It’s my first time in Salvador, we usually always go to São Paulo cuz we have family there

[valid ruin]

!trinket

[shrewd oriole]

@valid ruin

[hoary copper]

Tom is the new bot

good bot

[shrewd oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360571569791303681/422085803527766026/image.jpg

@hoary copper

[hoary copper]

There's irony there somewhere

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t be afraid to admit you’re grey

Was the joke I was going for

Ahah

[viscid helm]

[plain glacier]

@here Please tell me the website for choice UI 😃 wago.ui is not suitable, there is nothing that I would be interested 😦

[gaunt moat]

i don't want to tell you how to live your life.
but trying to pink 13k people to ask a question might not be a smart move lol

anyways, check pins if you wanna check my WAs

for other UI i use elvui

[shrewd oriole]

@everyone yo can ANY1 tell me what to eat for lunch

[shrewd night]

I got that shit suppressed, because Im not a discord scrub

[shrewd oriole]

It’s disabled anyway

Not the guy, the command

So is @ everyone

@gaunt moat isn’t tho

[shrewd night]

Id like to pink 13k people tho

sounds kinky

[shrewd oriole]

Ty wanna be toph

[zealous dew]

eat sushi

[dire spoke]

👀

y aggramar so hard

new boss who dis

[shrewd oriole]

You know what they say

When you got no personality replace it with a Rolex

Nah lol

Those mofos expensive

They’re 3k flex tools

Nice name

[spare cloud]

[dire spoke]

toph come

[viscid helm]

I'm never gonna join a heroic again

[dire spoke]

oh wait

ally

:x

[spare cloud]

I can boost a char and you carry me

[keen inlet]

If you think heroics are bad, hop into an LFR

especially argus

[supple hearth]

gross

[keen inlet]

I can always tell when a 'tank' has no idea what they're doing...even better when i ask them if they need help or /rw them to taunt, and they don't respond

[zealous dew]

lfr 😮

that scares the crap out of me

[keen inlet]

TBH tho, repeatedly, I am perplexed at Blizz' tuning of LFR hp/etc

They tune the fights like the average casual, which LFR is intended for, will pull more than 300k dps

(Hint; they won't, even with in-the-moment coaching, if they're receptive to it)

[drifting cloud]

its mostly people are legit afk

because 900 ilvl tank can do 300k dps

[zealous dew]

or ppl dieing in the first 30s

then afk

[spare cloud]

good thing I have never done lfr

[zealous dew]

like 5-10

[keen inlet]

@drifting cloud People say that, but it's not true

[zealous dew]

I do it on alts for essences but now i'm done

[keen inlet]

I can go back on the logs and look

people are casting

they're pressing buttons.

Not the right or best buttons

but they're pressing them

Never underestimate the "skill" disparity

[drifting cloud]

I did first 2 lfr bosses on my 895 veng dh yesterday legit pressing random buttons I had 280k dps I think

I even managed to tank both dogs for like a minute because the other tank died

dont ask me how

[keen inlet]

aggramar isn't too bad...unless the tanks are bad

and if I'm in lfr it's usually as tank

on my rogue it's fun to dunk on everyone, but not fun to watch the tanks die to the most basic mechanics.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[valid ruin]

!guide

[zealous dew]

lfr aggramar is harder then HC

4 flame rend

[humble crane]

its at the top of the window rava

[zealous dew]

than*

[humble crane]

its right at the top, in capitals

[dire spoke]

!singuide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[spare cloud]

I might be playing argus today

for the first time

[zealous dew]

i have to pug hc on warlock at home

need shoulders

0 willpower

[spare cloud]

did you see what I wrote

I said, I can boost a char on horde and join with that

but it'd be a carry

Can't use that word

because I just started again and we've been playing killsetup till now

[manic vigil]

Wow toph you are always here...

[spare cloud]

I didn't have the gear before

Yeah, why?

[manic vigil]

[dire spoke]

whew

I dropped buffs on argus rip

[spare cloud]

What is your name supposed to mean uni

[dire spoke]

at least not far off from the other RH bois

[manic vigil]

Sorry I was trying to trigger a fear response by mimicking Tyra

[hoary copper]

@keen inlet I have more trouble in LFR with Kin and Coven than anything

[manic vigil]

It's my attempt to feed you hipsters with your own medicine

It failed

[warm parcel]

Dat exs opener from slack

[manic vigil]

And it's Google translate so who knows really

[drifting cloud]

it means alacrity owns

[spare cloud]

ngyunjimaithûliksu

thats what it says

[manic vigil]

Yeah

Beautiful

[valid plank]

wow

[hoary copper]

bless you

[jovial kite]

naggersyungjingmaffsyoulikesum?

[dire spoke]

bois

I just got BiS https://snag.gy/3IrYuV.jpg

[spare cloud]

u wnt sm fuk? @jovial kite

[jovial kite]

dim sum fuk

[warm parcel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhP8vTq4V36RMGJg/

[spare cloud]

I missed galleon spawn for translating that

[drifting cloud]

dont worry it wouldnt have dropped

[spare cloud]

I dont want mount

I want belt

for tmog

[drifting cloud]

thats even worse

[dire spoke]

DIDN'T LOG GAROTHI

REEEEEE

I had a 2.5

[spare cloud]

Would it have been your first orange log?

[jovial kite]

zempai had a

16% pb pull

on aggra

[dire spoke]

[warm parcel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhP8vTq4V36RMGJg/#fight=16&type=damage-done&source=14

:DDDDDDDD

[spare cloud]

Yeah but they are progressing and there wouldve been no way that they kill it

ayy lmao

[jovial kite]

i need to confiscate that macro

[spare cloud]

LETS ANALYZE 😎

[warm parcel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhP8vTq4V36RMGJg/#fight=16&type=damage-done&source=15&start=6015434&end=6052835
Sum sexy opener

[dire spoke]

this ramp up is insane

[jovial kite]

when the stars align and theres bota + pb its good

[dire spoke]

would be a nice opener to click

[jovial kite]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhP8vTq4V36RMGJg/#fight=last&type=damage-done&phase=4&start=7337458&end=7352713&source=15

[dire spoke]

I should stop using boots on KG heroic huh?

[jovial kite]

that was the best output out of the pulls i had

[spare cloud]

32M

Noobe would be proud

[jovial kite]

pot execute bota exsang

[keen inlet]

@hoary copper kin on lfr is misery.

tbh

[viscid helm]

isnt that just all of lfr

[keen inlet]

I feel like they put a lot less thought/effort into lfr in antorus than they have in the past

[spare cloud]

Don why do you put yourself into situations where you suffer?

Are you a masochist?

[warm parcel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhP8vTq4V36RMGJg#fight=7&type=damage-done&source=15&start=2913378&end=2950513
@jovial kite dat bota

[keen inlet]

farming thrash wrists, honestly

but anyway

[manic vigil]

It's so easy and yet ppl are too dumb

It's tough tbh

[hoary copper]

Its true, Ruiner ruins lives

[keen inlet]

If you look at it

[hoary copper]

It ruiners lives

[jovial kite]

oh that was even bigger @warm parcel

35m

[manic vigil]

Ruiner should hurt irl

[keen inlet]

EN, Nightwell, TOS (until avatar/KJ) were tuned really, really far down

so for them to leave most mechanics, including one-shots, in lfr in Antorus

perplexes me

[hoary copper]

Avatar isnt really bad if people make the dps check

least theres no tornados

[keen inlet]

it's like they can't decide if they want it to be tourist mode (correct answer) or they want it to be "viable raiding" (wrong answer)

[hoary copper]

KJ is STILL a nightmare. I STILL hit enrage timer on KJ

[keen inlet]

That's been a consistent issue. They grossly overestimate dps in lfr

and failbuff is arbitrarily low. Should be 10% each stack.

Hell, make it 20

100. idc.

[dire spoke]

where did my deeps on vari go

idk what happened

[spare cloud]

did you accidentally play outlaw

[dire spoke]

otl would have done better

[lone junco]

@dire spoke you mashed your macro but i guess vanish was on cd?

[lone junco]

woulda coulda. nice log. Taht massive vanish mid block missed the Tb by a few sec.

would have been huge

[dire spoke]

I also only had 3% PB

[spare cloud]

cant mash macro when you click it

[lone junco]

I assume this is a macro

[spare cloud]

No

[lone junco]

if it is not, then /bowdown

[spare cloud]

he clicks them seperatly

[jovial kite]

yep

[spare cloud]

hence the delay between the spells

[jovial kite]

watch the click

its insane

watch the clip**

[lone junco]

ive seen the gif. but that block is tight

[solid field]

wait, zempai is really a clicker, I thought it was just a meme

[jovial kite]

well it would be a meme if he was a shitter

[warm parcel]

xd

[lone junco]

ring is still supposed to be before tb. its 10sec.

[dire spoke]

only thing I macro now is gnawed to vend

for pull

[solid field]

well, sir. that's pretty damn impressive

[lone junco]

dont ring at 0 sec. imo. get it right after that vend. and $$

[dire spoke]

hmm

[lone junco]

I can barely hit my Pot with a click without mis clicking

APL is wrong.

[dire spoke]

yeah apl is shitter

[lone junco]

i mean, just for the ring

[spare cloud]

When I got a gnawed thumb ring and blood elf racial I have too many buttons

gotta start clicking as well

[dire spoke]

lol

[lone junco]

I had to macro the ring into vanish

[spare cloud]

yeah but thats not optimal

because kb and tb

[lone junco]

it wont go off at 2 min, but will at 4.

for the very long fights (6+) it would go with the vendetta

but w/e

[dire spoke]

:LUL: the feel when https://snipboard.io/Rx9678.jpg

[lone junco]

that midblock was pretty baller

[warm parcel]

topping flowi btw

[dire spoke]

inb4 apply memento

[lone junco]

farm mode

[spare cloud]

Flowi is rusty from not playing much

[dire spoke]

^

[viscid helm]

gotta hand it to zempai

i could prob barely pull 600k

by clicking

what a god

[spare cloud]

lul

[dire spoke]

thank you sir

I'm gonna print and nail that to my wall

[viscid helm]

[dire spoke]

[lone junco]

include that log

[dire spoke]

nobody logged garothi

or?

[warm parcel]

nop

[dire spoke]

[jovial kite]

weak had dogs ->

[warm parcel]

put on after people asked

[dire spoke]

kms

maybe some rando logged 🙏🏻

[warm parcel]

that logs not even pub

do I make it?

[lone junco]

👏

we got a record i think

[jovial kite]

there was a 35m rupture

on kinga

[lone junco]

on adds doesnt count

ive seen them at 32 before

[jovial kite]

well that one had titanforging 🤷🏿

[lone junco]

but 32 on argus bracer 💸

🎣

[dire spoke]

there was my garothi https://www.twitch.tv/videos/238635756?t=00h13m10s

[lone junco]

I wish we had 4 rogues. holy shit.

@zealous dew we used a disc as a ranged dps last night. was super smooth. grevious was =0, and he did like 1m st.

me and ret near 2.5-2.8M on the tyr bosses

[dire spoke]

imagine exsang still 400%

[jovial kite]

exsang will be qucci in bfa

[keen inlet]

so

if slagg, weak, and lorentz are all dunked on by Flowi

and Zempai dunks on Flowi

[brave owl]

Haven't seen many vids on bfa rogue yet

[jovial kite]

zempa is rh king

[brave owl]

not many changes, huh?

[keen inlet]

does Zempai utterly annihilate, obliterate, and otherwise cuckold-on-their-wedding-night slagg, weak, and lorentz?

[jovial kite]

yes

[steep obsidian]

not that much just some artifact stuff moved to talent choices mostly

[keen inlet]

:THOUGHTSANDSUCH:

[dire spoke]

[lone junco]

exang 400% would absolutely fish bota. 8sec rupture in a 7-10 sec bota 👌

rip

[jovial kite]

i wonder how much per % haste scales bleeds on alpha

could be that exsang nerfed to 100% isnt even a big deal

[lone junco]

ive seen clips of tick 2sec go to tick 1.7

[jovial kite]

yeah but with how much haste

[warm parcel]

its what every dot uses

[jovial kite]

ahh i see

[warm parcel]

100% haste halves tick time

[still ledge]

Hey is Warcraft logs down?

[lone junco]

looks like we could get 24 ticks in 16sec? if we can get 1.5sec tick rates during lust + the exang.

[still ledge]

I am getting an "In processing queue" when I look at my recently uploaded fight

[lone junco]

dunno man.

[jovial kite]

i wonder how haste interacts with exsang though

is it additive

[strange python]

bleedrog's

[lone junco]

assuming 32sec pandemic it still cuts to 16 sec.

[warm parcel]

just halves your hasted tick time

[jovial kite]

kk thx

[lone junco]

so tick rates go from 2 sec to like 1.5.

thats 16 ticks * 1.5 in 16 sec.

really depends on scale of haste. and then bota remake.

(if they dont bake it in, i will be dissap)

they are dumping hemo right?

[strange python]

i really like bota

gives you something to be happy about without feeling like shit when you dont get it

[lone junco]

it is lackluster for poison, but that 10sec over a 16sec exang is real.

instead of 10/32

Today is Pi day.

time for Pie

[strange python]

yeah those 2.7m ticks feels so good

[lone junco]

i think you exaggerate

but 🍆

[strange python]

crits

mb

[lone junco]

its ok. 2.7 is very very high.

[strange python]

i think thats the biggest ive had thus far on a crit is 2.7 with bracers/conc/pot etc

mustve been with titanforging aswell

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DnAbrW6kXGx1PQ3Z/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=12

[manic vigil]

Zempai is the new big Dawg?

Swiss precision, I told you

[spare cloud]

did I hear pi day?

[lone junco]

ye. lots of pies

[spare cloud]

I like pies.

[lone junco]

https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto

[hoary copper]

Work is having a pi day potluck and we all brought pi(e)

Tried baking one, idk how it came out

[keen inlet]

You didn't bring a Tautermelon?

[lone junco]

@hoary copper went from shit oranges on hpal to belt/sephuz. lucky box +token

then wrapped my 4p.

12M flash made me lol.

[spare cloud]

τττττττ

[hoary copper]

a what Don?

[keen inlet]

idk was trying to think of foods you could sub Tau in for

to counter Pie for Pi day

[dire spoke]

you want zem pai?

[hoary copper]

Nice @lone junco I love that belt for m+ I dont really use it raid (it lacks mastery which is hurting me right now)

[spare cloud]

In german Tau means Dew

[zealous dew]

mmm belt

[spare cloud]

You can eat that.

[zealous dew]

do you dps?

[lone junco]

Raid I use belt / judgering

m+ belt /sephuz

@zealous dew ive been mashing CS to reset shock, cause that 1st row dot is bullshit

[hoary copper]

Ah yea dont have sephuz, I use ring/myraad raid and ring/belt for m+ (ILT ring)

[zealous dew]

kk

[hoary copper]

HA + Wings with belt = HS CS HS CS HS CS HS CS all day long

[lone junco]

that 15 i healed last week was pretty brutal, but I think ill be fine now.

4p21 hammering into BOV should be nice

[hoary copper]

Did 1.5m last night in a heroic on the first boss of arcway, beat all the dps

[zealous dew]

i play pry+sephuz

or pry+cape

[lone junco]

one day. just glad to dump shoulders

plus, we can take that disc and 2h carry my ass through some 15s

[hoary copper]

I need 1 more piece and a better leggo to do my 4pT21, or 2 pieces so I dont have to use cape

I need a better DoS, but I hate lower

[lone junco]

Seamother derpstar is way better than any trinket should be

[hoary copper]

Yea its like 6% of my heals

[lone junco]

I got a 900 from my first kill

[hoary copper]

I do normal/heroic to get better than the 885 one I have

That will prob beat most trinkets to like 950 or so. someone with a 915 said it still outperformed most 960s he had

[lone junco]

thats my curve

[spare cloud]

this is assa chat

[lone junco]

then chat

[kindred cedar]

Is it possible to simulate your gear with gear you havent obtained yet? want to sim my trinkets with a felhounds one from hc

[spare cloud]

Yes it is

[kindred cedar]

how?

[spare cloud]

Just go on raidbots go to gear compare and put in the items you want to sim

[lone junco]

use the Simulationcraft addon to copy your gear set.

[hoary copper]

Yea it's nuts how good it is Noobe

[lone junco]

paste in the raidbots import box.

[kindred cedar]

aah tanks

[hoary copper]

Can you imagine an 985 Sea Star?

[spare cloud]

@keen inlet enforce assa chat rules please

[dim sigil]

if you have 3x M. Assassin and 3x M. Alchemist will the boots replace the shoulders ?

[hoary copper]

We have rules here?

[keen inlet]

....... 🤔

[spare cloud]

🤔

[keen inlet]

This is all vaguely on-topic and not meme-centric

I'm fine with it

we've been doing well with memes/wild stuff down in general

[spare cloud]

Paladin chat is vaguely assa chat

[hoary copper]

Depends on your off pieces @dim sigil you can sim to see the difference. Some people it does perform better

[dim sigil]

no one answers my shit question

[spare cloud]

Thats because you sim

whats better

[dim sigil]

thank you bruen

[hoary copper]

It's been like 2 seconds

[keen inlet]

lol

[dim sigil]

i dont want to sim shit

[strange python]

welp here comes the roast

[dim sigil]

mostly because i dont have the relics

[spare cloud]

then you're gonna have a bad time

[strange python]

then you shouldnt care what is better

[keen inlet]

everybody hold up

[unreal coyote]

you dont wanna sim?

[keen inlet]

I'll handle this.

[dim sigil]

i was just wondering

if it could be better

[spare cloud]

it could be

[strange python]

taking the wheel

[dim sigil]

cba farming relics tho

[spare cloud]

but everything could be better

[hoary copper]

Everything could be better

[spare cloud]

ring could also be better

You have to sim to know

[hoary copper]

👀

[dire spoke]

[keen inlet]

@dim sigil It could be. It could also not be, which is why people tell you to sim. Have you been on other class discords before, or is this your first time? I have a guide that might help you.

[spare cloud]

THE DON GUIDE

link pls

why isnt it pinned btw?

[keen inlet]

GUIDE TO BEING A BETTER DISCORD USER:
http://www.ravenholdt.net/class-discords-the-basics/

It's pinned in basic questions.

[hoary copper]

Oh that one

[spare cloud]

Yeah but why isnt it pinned in every channel

that is the question

[keen inlet]

Because "they" ignore pins anyway

[unreal coyote]

why do people who dont even claim roles get to talk in spec channels

[keen inlet]

so having it in more than one is obnoxious

[unreal coyote]

unsolved mysteries

this and more when we return

[spare cloud]

then make it so they have to enter a codeword which is hidden in the guide

so they have to enter it to ask question

[keen inlet]

lol

idk if discord has that capability

[spare cloud]

I'm pretty sure you can do it

I think I've seen it on another server

[unreal coyote]

chances are if they dont wanna sim

they wont wanna claim a role

and if they couldnt talk in a channel

without a role

[spare cloud]

then they are fucked

[unreal coyote]

voila

less stupid shit

holy shit

i did it guys

[strange python]

this guy might be onto something 🤔

[keen inlet]

Hey.

[spare cloud]

yeah but bot doesn't work properly

[unreal coyote]

i solved a problem

[keen inlet]

Guys.

[spare cloud]

so they might want to claim a role

but cant

[unreal coyote]

well thats another issue

[spare cloud]

they go together

[keen inlet]

1. Relax. It was literally 5 seconds of a guy copping an attitude, not the end of the world.
2. We don't want to limit/gate people from coming into the community. Yes, it's mildly annoying when they act a certain way, but it's also a teachable moment, and there are a lot of folks who don't act that way.

now...back to sin chat

[lone junco]

Then just pick something. Strangler sounds good. Maybe Prydaz. I guess shoulders might

[spare cloud]

Shall we take this to general?

[keen inlet]

if y'all have suggestions for improving RH we welcome them--in general, or in dms, etc

I do pass feedback along.

[viscid helm]

#unmodNotter

[keen inlet]

[spare cloud]

I'm gonna spam you with suggestions in dm now

that you said that

[unreal coyote]

it took like 4months to get spec channels

[safe matrix]

He just said suggestions, he didn't say they had to be GOOD suggestions

[spare cloud]

Yes.

[unreal coyote]

be prepared for increased wait times

THE QUEUE MUST BE LONG

[keen inlet]

(in moderation)

[jovial kite]

[keen inlet]

your humble servant,
Don Jose

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/9cb76a39e7a46a401beefd7e0a279e82

Don Jose bullying Notter again

[dire spoke]

"bullying in general is great"

grammar

[spare cloud]

Wann essen wir Opa?

Wann essen wir, Opa?

[keen inlet]

You know where this belongs?

😉

[spare cloud]

Where the bullying belongs as well

Don is immune to bullying

[keen inlet]

#ancientmemes

[spare cloud]

Isnt that offtopic as well?

[safe matrix]

Ur an ancient meme

[hoary copper]

At least we aren't Focused Will, that guy would have been kicked

[shrewd oriole]

Good

[prime void]

Goes to sleep- Don Jose talking about general. Wakes up- Same shit.

:(

[spare cloud]

Stop bullying Don

[shrewd oriole]

If you ever feel like you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed

[unreal coyote]

yee

[manic vigil]

Uh oh

[strange python]

and thus a meme was born

[nimble tartan]

BOONK GANG

[shut willow]

I have no role, but other than Don hating my name, I don't think I have asked any stupid questions

[manic vigil]

I want to trigger Don, please help

[gaunt moat]

which role do you want

[warm parcel]

How bout one of those purple ones

[jovial kite]

PWn3R the despot

[gaunt moat]

never heard that one before...

[lone junco]

i love this

guess i could trim the name

[dire spoke]

make it noskillzreq

[manic vigil]

noobe the deletor

[dire spoke]

done heroic with the bois, now ID is over again

ded gaem

[jovial kite]

alts bro

[zealous dew]

boost my warlock in M

[jovial kite]

brb vanish

[manic vigil]

Play a good class

[zealous dew]

i'm playing a good class

[manic vigil]

Not you

[nimble tartan]

hes playing demon hunter pogchamp

[zealous dew]

lol DH

[fading rampart]

How's sin looking in the small BFA talent changes we have so far

[keen inlet]

It looks the most finished of the rogue specs.

And looks decent.

It's way too early to pass meaningful judgment on it though

as we all know rogue could be amazing but if it does poorly relative to other classes then we'll be upset

[fading rampart]

Atleast its not bad changes off the bat I suppose

[viscid helm]

yes it is

[dire spoke]

maybe I do agg M on sub this week to challenge myself 🤔

[viscid helm]

its worse than what it is on live rn

[nimble tartan]

tfw did m aggr as sub the first kill 😢

and that was the last time i played sub 😢

[viscid helm]

🙃

[arctic venture]

!singuide

[chrome tusk]

Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/