#assassination

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strange python
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aye makes sense

lone junco
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@spare cloud ofc. i dont gamble

strange python
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think my poison set is like 969

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958 exsang simming higher

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lmao

spare cloud
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I don't think averages for things such as this are helpful

strange python
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Wow I had 52% concordance uptime on garothi last week, who do I have to sacrifice to make that happen again

spare cloud
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they just bring confusion

dire spoke
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nice comment :p

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idk if they know

spare cloud
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Why arent you answering your chats question

cloud dune
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Is the bleed build better if I don’t want to rely on RNG for my damage?

spare cloud
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NO CHAT INTERACTION WHAT A STREAMER

dire spoke
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DUDE I WAS INFIGHT

spare cloud
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YOU WIPED 2 TIMES AFTER I ASKED THE QUESTION

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😦

dire spoke
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ohhmm

lone junco
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@spare cloud it was just a q. " how much do bracers benefit compared to warrior"

strange python
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@cloud dune not a bleed player, but I'm going to guess no. The top bleed logs get crazy timings on blood of the assassination, same way top poison logs get crazy poison bomb, generally. But in bleed you can fish for bota.

lone junco
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might they pin my bleed post

spare cloud
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Noobe bleed guide

prime void
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Play ring, dont pray as much

spare cloud
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when is it out?

lone junco
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done

spare cloud
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+/- 45% crit

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I have 27% so I guess thats alright

strange python
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im guessing that's crit/mastery

prime void
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Naw

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Haste vers

cloud dune
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Nah. Mastery crit

strange python
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lol,

spare cloud
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Yeah

strange python
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what's up mizuxe.

spare cloud
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45% mastery and 135% crit

prime void
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Jeebus

spare cloud
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it's like Mizuxe wasnt here the whole time

strange python
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37% crit bleed but i have 2xbb relics

spare cloud
strange python
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luol

prime void
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I wasnt

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I've been gone for a couple hours to nap haha

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My head hurts whenever I come back though :(

spare cloud
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Sorry shouldnt have told them you were hiding your char

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by renaming

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ooops

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i did it again

prime void
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Doesnt matter. They always know its me when they see the FAT ass.

spare cloud
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Yeah.

prime void
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I cant argue with people as a shitter anymore :(

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Well, time to find another tank.

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I think we might hit 600+ wipes

strange python
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holy

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on what boss

spare cloud
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You still on felhounds

prime void
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Yeah

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Hounds destroying the guild 😡

spare cloud
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rip guild

cloud dune
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Felhounds is puggable

spare cloud
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Everything is puggable

lone junco
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@strange python that 45 includes trinket procs. not counting it for mut. I have like 70% mut crit

spare cloud
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if you coincidentally pug with the same people every week

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and suddenly you are on the same realm

prime void
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Mfw, you think 600 wipes on hounds

cloud dune
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Like I have any room to talk though. My guild is stuck on H Coven

spare cloud
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and theres the same name under your characters name

prime void
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12 pulled coven.

turbid harbor
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y i k e s

strange python
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yikes.

prime void
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60 pulled agg

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600 pulled argus

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Good shit.

spare cloud
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What

strange python
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aim for 6000!

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@lone junco how are you counting ssf as overall crit?

spare cloud
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Who thinks that you actually have 600 wipes on felhounds

prime void
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Hopefully 600 pulls

turbid harbor
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did your guild have 3 sick warlocks or something?

void pecan
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Killed h-coven in 4 minutes last week.

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feels good

prime void
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For coven?

turbid harbor
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and they can't carry you on argus anymore?

prime void
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No

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We have a healer problem

turbid harbor
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or how does that happen

prime void
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Which wasnt apparent till argus

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Because all the other bosses can be carried, hard

turbid harbor
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are you 3 healing and double breaking all chains?

prime void
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NOPE

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4 heals. Single breaks except first.

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Single break turnz into a double break rq tho :)

turbid harbor
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😄

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are people retarded with rage and fear?

prime void
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Ofc

turbid harbor
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or are you literally dying to 1 stack of chain

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ya

spare cloud
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muted

lone junco
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@strange python yeah, its worth like 3-4.

drifting cloud
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I think after 600 wipes you probably wiped to everything

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I wanted to kms after 350

lone junco
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I guess I rounded up on my mastery

prime void
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I mean, ill go 15s without heals

spare cloud
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I have 0 wipes on Argus

prime void
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They just too distracted.

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"Overwhelmed"

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Im too busy shadoestepping modules and falling through the floor to care though

drifting cloud
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oh I had that once

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was nice

prime void
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It's yamerohyper

lone junco
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healing is Hps, and movement, and cds overlapped. makes me bonkers at times.

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rogue is so easy

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CD 💸

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kick when needed, run a rotation, cloak this, run out that. dont stand here.

drifting cloud
turbid harbor
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there's quite a lot to do on mythic argus

lone junco
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no one dies if your dps is 5% low

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w/r/t heals tho

cloud dune
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Somebody told me once that in a raiding environment, rogues should never use crimson vial.

lone junco
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not saying the fight isnt hard. just that rogue can be easier

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wuuut

prime void
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I mean, if you have to stay alive; stay alive

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That person is a parse motivated nonkey:)

lone junco
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I use it all the time.

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the Damage reduction is nice.

drifting cloud
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yeah if only cloak worked on chains dmg

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sick coding blizz

prime void
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Ill feint vial during the triple tortured rage

spare cloud
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Can't get good parses when you use crimson vial

lone junco
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we dont spam feint all fight either

prime void
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Every time

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Now do I vial on heroic?

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Never

cloud dune
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Heroic is hard though

hoary copper
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For some it is >.>

strange python
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lose 12k dps by using vial or lose 1.8m by dying

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🤔

hoary copper
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Noobe, HPal or disc priest?

cloud dune
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Holy priest

halcyon pumice
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if you die without using vial then you just blame your healer for being trash obv

hoary copper
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Yuck

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zZzZz

cloud dune
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Disc pally

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What are you healing?

lone junco
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@hoary copper wut? more context

hoary copper
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Idk heroic prob. For reference I dont have a guild so I PuG stuff

cloud dune
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Disc is more fun imo

hoary copper
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Get AoTC with heals so I can do with with rogue and not need to be 970

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that's how I did it with TOS

strange python
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just fake an aotc achieve the hardest fight is vari or maybe agg

lost horizon
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Most groups struggle with coven most from what I've seen

cloud dune
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Coven is a brick wall

drifting cloud
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hardest fight is coven

strange python
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thats odd. the only time i pug it is at like 5am est when the aussies are kicking ass and taking names

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and we only had 1 wipe on vari

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honestly, aggramar is worst to pug imo

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it is either a nightmare or just fine.

lost horizon
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True, cause it requires actual coordination

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Coven's still the harder boss though imo

hoary copper
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Most Pugs get stuck in one of 3 places, Coven (duh), PK or HC

cloud dune
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Gorefiends all the adds onto aggramar, drop darkness, hope for good RNG. gg

lone junco
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@hoary copper hpal is really good for hard stuff, but you will get better numbers with hpriest.

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I like hpal for a thousand reasons tho.

hoary copper
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I have yet to get coven or beyond

strange python
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at this point most pugs can brute force through pk and hc

lone junco
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focus on Sanc whoring, and youll do ok.

hoary copper
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I was thinking disc priest, hpriest is boring to me. hmm

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If people dont interrupt on PK still seems like game over

strange python
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my hpriest guildies pretends to be a restro druid and spams renew. i guess that is entertaining.

hoary copper
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I end up getting the worst pugs tho

manic vigil
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is skada to be trusted at argus guys? I got some weird data here thonk

strange python
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she was very excited about the renew changes for bfa hahaha.

hoary copper
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What are they changing with it?

strange python
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it reduces holy word cds

manic vigil
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time for details I guess

lost horizon
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Actually having renew on your bars 🤢

cloud dune
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When did I walk into the priest discord?

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I have Renee on my bars for movement.

lone junco
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no one walks into a discord

manic vigil
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hey I used to be a holy priest as well POGGERS

cloud dune
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Renew*

lone junco
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same.

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vanilla

manic vigil
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and yeah renew was shit 😄 actually casted that is

hoary copper
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vanilla I was hpriest as well, my first 60

lone junco
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I died to rogues too much, so i made one

lost horizon
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Benediction is great

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Renew is garbo

strange python
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real talk, the new holy word salvation looks dope as fuck.

lost horizon
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True

strange python
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an actual raid cd?!

hoary copper
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I died to rogues too much so I made rdruid when they could lifebloom and abolish poison and kill slowly with thorns

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Is that the 11 min cooldown one that gets reduced?

manic vigil
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tbh priest talents are all kinda boring

strange python
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ya.

hoary copper
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yea that looks pretty good

lost horizon
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I mean w/divinity pre-PoM and velens set up hymn heals pretty fucking well

manic vigil
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felt good being a priest though, very powerful reactive healer

cloud dune
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Did they get rid of divine hum?

strange python
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nope

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its a talent. salvation that is.

cloud dune
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Oh.

lone junco
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@hoary copper anyway. Hpal. easy pug spot, and very strong imo.

cloud dune
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I need to go look at BfA stuff more closely

strange python
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instant heal/puts renew on everyone and two stacks of prayer of mending.

lone junco
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instant invite the 2 times i tried to pug.

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we got stuck at coven, but thats normal.

hoary copper
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Yea true, need to work on not sucking at it. I seem to do pretty well at disc in raid. survivability of hpal is much easier tho

strange python
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like, imagine if resto druids could put rejuv on everyone instantly

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if you're on NA there are lots of pugs who look at logs, you could probably get into one of those if your first 8 logs are good

lone junco
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hpal numbers come from judge light. light of dawn. and sac on a major.

hoary copper
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I always wished that druid had a seed of corruption kind of spell, but for heals

lone junco
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everything else is sniping

manic vigil
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maybe consider off spec possibilities? I always hated shadow (still kinda do) so I was stuck with healing alone. If that is of any concern of course

strange python
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where's beacon 🤔

lone junco
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lifebloom could spread

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depends.

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beacon is good if you are the top healer, if they are blood dk, forget it.

strange python
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i dont like how beacon is just like a worse atonement

hoary copper
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Beacon of faith and forget the tanks

cloud dune
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Shadow needs some love. It has so much potential but blizzard always messes with it

lone junco
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yeah, double beacon and snipe.

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cone, and sac and judge.

hoary copper
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I loved shadow when it was a mana battery. I like shadow now but I dont have the haste or leggos to make it ideal

lone junco
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if youve seen a good sac log, its like a 12m pbomb donger.

strange python
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even with bis its aids

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ive got one at like 955 16.5k haste and its fun but its so much more punishing than anything else

hoary copper
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P4 Argus is great for Sac

cloud dune
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One mistake and your dps hemorrhages

strange python
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oh yeah. and not even your own mistake

hoary copper
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yea true

strange python
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i commend anyone who attempts to play that god awful spec.

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a tank can misplace something by 3 feet and totally cuck you

hoary copper
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and then there's aoe haha

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RIP Mind Sear

cloud dune
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My spriest is 949, 15.8k haste with bis legendaries. I stopped playing because mechanics.

strange python
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its super fun on coven, i benched my rogue for coven prog

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actually the new mind sear is interesting

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you just have to get used to the insanity gen from it being like 3s behind

cloud dune
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As soon as I tried mythic garothi and had to choose between doing dps and doing mechanics, I benched my priest.

strange python
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makes sense, theres a reason im maining rogue

hoary copper
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Rogue is pretty easy on the mechanics overall

strange python
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shadow is just better on fights like coven

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and it was the most geared out of shadow/afflock that i had

manic vigil
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why you hatin on rogues. we no dummieZ FeelsTastyMan

hoary copper
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🥔

strange python
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i thought that was an ass

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@lone junco is crit still your best stat at 45?

lone junco
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yeah.

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Only upgrades I see in the near future would be a 960 socket barb neck. and maybe a 965 SSF if i get lucky

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i dont stack vers btw. its a bit over mastery, but not by much.

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i have a few pieces that pawn thinks are 1% up

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2p20 is funny. my offset 960 gloves read as a +53% upgrade.

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but a dps loss.

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cause pawn is smrt

manic vigil
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yee

strange python
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ive got a 970socket ssf

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dont think its ever coming off

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ive got 15 vers but its only right behind crit

lone junco
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id run slackjack, but silly guy logged in Shoulder bracer

supple hearth
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Undead female :(

lone junco
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it made more sense at the time

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Pïnkranger would be a weird undead guy

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@supple hearth one of my fav pvp ss.

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was scrimming snutz and my dfa made him scream like a girl

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👌

prime void
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That's a good SS

lone junco
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he was monk, I almost gibbed him so he blinked to his buddah. I dfa as he blinked. I flew from under bridge far side across and up. he just got a big heal here.

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was really cool imo. this was wod sub with dfa.

strange python
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in raid so i couldnt crop

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lma

lone junco
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that vers/mastery ring will be a good replacement. i got really lucky with a few boxes

strange python
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yeah i want that 3k crit ring you have lmfao

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my t21 is really high all things considered

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950 normal shoulders 975 hc hat

lone junco
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id like to see logs of varith or garothi. not many exsang out there.

strange python
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errr hang on i actually have a pretty good vari at least according to jack

lone junco
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good bracer

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20M

nova pagoda
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i have a feeling bleed build could be really nice on m kin and it syms like 28k lower but i still have no clue how to play it

strange python
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i got good bota though iirc noobe

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rasha on M kin its amazing but honestly its just more versatile in general

lone junco
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bota here would be massive

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did not

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quite the buff spread

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that #4 would have been massive.

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such is the dice

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would have been on the scale of 27-30M

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but. dumping an env to for a gamble on bleed,

strange python
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Damn that wouldve been nice lmao

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usually for vanish combo i try and at least fish once

lone junco
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just 1. but man its nice when it hits

strange python
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but no @nova pagoda I wouldn't say it was "better" on lots of fights but it definitely feels less bad one stuff like PK when you have to go up

lone junco
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ive started ditching this garrote

strange python
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yeah jack told me the same thing, unless really bad mut rng

lone junco
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i would do it for prob dif reasons tho

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if you proc bota on that first Rupture, you want that exang asasp

strange python
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3x mass would also help me a lot lmao

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still rocking 2

lone junco
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ooo yeah. that will bump you

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and if its not that much, it will be way way smoother.

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I bought relics from the vendor till i got a vend/bb

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delay is like 8 sec or so?

strange python
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nah its right on

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with 1 the delay was 8sec

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3 gives me like 3 sec of vend before exsang

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ive been buying relics to no avail, trying to the the mass iron relic from antorus but no dice so far

prime void
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No

lone junco
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@strange python you got me questioning that 3rd. seems good still tho

strange python
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i would definitely love to have a 3rd but just none dropping

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2 leaves like no room for downtiem

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time

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like to the point of spamming FoK during downtime/run

lone junco
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fok fok fok comeon

strange python
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maybe during hc farm that one will drop lmao

lyric valley
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if you could have same ilvl on all tiers, which combination u will go for single T?

strange python
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2p4p

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20/21

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dunno if it would be bis but damn would it be smooth

lyric valley
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2p 20 4p 21 right?

strange python
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ye

lone junco
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i mean, 4p19 would be good at 960

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that shoulder env bombs

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what would only happen in the M+ invitiational tho

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4p21 is still prob better

strange python
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4p21 albeit everyone was meme'ing it i can feel it when i dont have it one

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on*

lone junco
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0p2p4p. tbh, i was suprised that the 0p4p2p didnt hang in there

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all even ilvl

vestal wren
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where is the 420 😦

lone junco
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im running that again as poison.

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but no 420

fiery nest
lone junco
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tbh, i expected 402 to do well

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its def my shit mastery though

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and 4p19 wanted shoulders anyway.

dusty palm
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can someone hook me up, I have my simc, I just want to know what you think is best for me to wear

lone junco
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4p21 is good

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what boss drops tier hat?

strange python
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aggra

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wait which tier

lone junco
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@vestal wren 420 is not good for me.

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lol

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-8.5

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@strange python ye 21 hat

strange python
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yeah aggramar

zealous dew
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no pants is the best pants

strange python
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i prefer feint pants

fathom elm
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hey guys , got a few questions about bleed spec , is it worth holding onto vendetta even if vanish cd still has 20secs plus until up ? and is it normal to feel energy starved without vigor while using deeper stratagem ? and do i always hold kingsbane for vendetta ? soory for all the questions 😃 ty

vestal wren
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😦

valid plank
vestal wren
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dont troll him

strange python
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zanaken without 2p20 you're gonna feel starved

prime void
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@fathom elm I'm sure @lone junco could help

strange python
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dont hold vendetta hold vanish unless you're only going to get 1 more

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even then idk if its worth it

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the 3rd one i got no idea @lone junco sos

lone junco
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@fathom elm vendetta on cd. vanish is 2min intervals so it comes up for the 3rd exang. 5th 7th. every time. use DS not vig. never hold kb. it is after the exang in opener, and on cd after that. standard env uptime rules apply.

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you really should use 2p20.

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2p4p bracer boot.

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3 vend. and 40+ crit, or just play poison.

strange python
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rip guess im playing poison

lone junco
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you have to have 40% with trinket right?

strange python
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maybe with food buff

lone junco
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just read. then come back.

strange python
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idk it depends how much my ssf actually contributes

fathom elm
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hey thanks for the info , im simming higher with boots / insignia instead of boots / bracers , worth dropping the crit for the bracers ?

lone junco
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exang with boots insig?

cloud dune
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is CoF worth using?

lone junco
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something is wrong. maybe dumpster tier crit. or low ilvl

fathom elm
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yeh lol

lone junco
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@cloud dune sim it. and no

fathom elm
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970 ilvl , with insignia 51% crit

lone junco
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oooo

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now were talking

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post a log or raidbot

valid plank
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damn

strange python
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holy shit can i get your name i just wanna do some raidbot shenanigans

valid plank
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wanna see this one p

strange python
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:^)

lone junco
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TB and ALAC are both shit

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when you go EP it makes sense.

fathom elm
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need to goto work but ill post quick raidbot , can you tag me in answer so i can find it easier when i get to work Noobe ?

lone junco
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k

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just give me server/name

fathom elm
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cool thanks mate

strange python
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another exsang

lone junco
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tyra runs an EP insig build/.

strange python
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in the works

lone junco
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but not exang. Id love to see this work out.

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my rings are way way better than my offbracers.

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so it prob wont do work.

valid plank
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link a raidbot @fathom elm

strange python
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i dont have ring or i would try it

fathom elm
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zanaken - silvermoon - EU

lone junco
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thx

fathom elm
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np need to go now , ill chat when at work 😛

lone junco
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oh man. a 0p4p exang

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It works. but man it is sloppy around the garrote.

strange python
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and still 2.1

lone junco
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lucky the garrote is stil shit dmg

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gimme a sec

valid plank
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noobe what's your ilvl, can i see your raidbot to compare him?

lone junco
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956

strange python
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noobe is close even though hes 12 ilvl down

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or something like that

lone junco
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Slackjack is proper and like 200k up

strange python
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are you doing and m boss kills nobe?

lone junco
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but he logged in shoulder bracer

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Im not mythic

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just heroic farm now

strange python
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any*

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aye i c

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mostly same

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filling in etc

lone junco
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we do see this happen. the crit flattens out when it is that high.

prime void
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If I had decent relics +shoulders my ring sim would be close to 2.3 :(

lone junco
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these are good numbers

valid plank
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can i see your raidbot noobe? dm me

dusty palm
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what is the crusible leggo?

strange python
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i want to make love to whoever is crashing the price of agi flasks on stormrage

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i ran him with a 950 crit vers ring and its dead even as exsang with ring

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my guess is he has a shitty off-ring

lone junco
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sec.

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@fathom elm get your 3rd vendetta. run 2p4p. insig is fine.

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depends on your 2p20 ilvl, but if you are going to bother with exang it is a big up. even at a massive loss of ilvl.

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boots make exang align mechanic wise. bracer and insig are just dps options. and for a non execute boss, exang is prob the best choice if you have mediocre ring option.

strange python
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just wanted to dick around with base t20

lone junco
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shoulder glove are typ the best t20. and he could use the vend. but yeah. insig is a lot of crit.

strange python
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looks like t20 doesnt like ring very well

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i just replaced his current offpieces

lone junco
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wonder if he has bracer

strange python
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yeah he said it sims higher with insig than bracer

lone junco
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he got me excited with that 50% crit number. prob a loss all around.

strange python
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same actually. he probably has way less BB traits though, right?

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if you had 50 crit and enough bb to get like 80%

lone junco
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2gw. eww

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i mean, thats prob why his exang beats poison.

strange python
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only 1 mass?

lone junco
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2

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4+0+2

strange python
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o i c

lone junco
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you and him can be frands.

strange python
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hc farm time

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maybe ill get the fucking iron relic lmao

#

if not ill just spam fok

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during mechanics

#

so im at 38 with crit food

#

but i think fang @970 is like 4% crit

dire spoke
#

👀

gentle fog
#

Anyone have a cruweight import string?

dire spoke
#

herodamage has em

prime void
#

Logs are down and now I'm bored in class

dire spoke
#

come chat with weak

dawn kettle
#

@gentle fog

lone junco
#

anyone play disc priest here? do they have an AOE like holy nova?

prime void
#

no

#

They do not

strange python
#

nah their only aoe thing is that dot talent

#

that makes penance spread swp

lone junco
#

Yay my pally got Chain and Sephuz back to back. yay box

#

went from shit tier M+ to bis

strange python
#

i want to start gearing an alt but man

#

legion sucks the life out of me

safe matrix
#

toxic blade sims higher than alacricity ._.

#

I cant meme

#

i cannot live

lone junco
#

new orange coins help a lot

#

@safe matrix alac is super boring anyway.

safe matrix
#

thats okay

#

I like boring

#

ll sin specs are boring anyways

lone junco
#

pretty sure my top poison is 2222221

#

bleh. clip clip clip

#

I do like boring tbh. its just zero burst for prio.

safe matrix
#

yeah I need to sim a few new combos

lone junco
#

and exang is higher

safe matrix
#

whats the bleed talent set noobe

#

1130131?

#

jk DS istead of vigor

vapid moth
#

Where we're you guys this morning when I said alacrity was boring

#

The memers busted my ass for that shit

civic palm
#

They must not like you then, because there is no way it's less boring.

void pecan
#

EU boys don't like him

vapid moth
#

It's very clear they don't like me

safe matrix
#

more energy means more button presses

vapid moth
#

More button presses doesn't mean more fun though. I like the peaks. Alacrity doesn't have peaks

void pecan
#

It's constant.

vapid moth
#

Yeah

dire spoke
#

👀

civic palm
#

The point is that if SIN is already so fucking boring, doing less or even more of the same, would not make it more/less boring.

safe matrix
#

if you like peaks, I hear theres a spec with nothing but those 😉

vapid moth
#

Sub weapon is 74 I think. I'll touch it someday but today is not that day

warm parcel
#

2230021 feels amazing

#

just do 4cp muti into env 6 times in a row

#

and youll never look back

fathom wyvern
#

!singuide

chrome tuskBOT
safe matrix
#

weak what gear do you go?

#

like weights and shiz

warm parcel
#

I mean Ive got what Ive got in armory

strange python
#

960 mass blood relic @lone junco but still 2mass

safe matrix
#

i dunno wtf your armory is

warm parcel
#

🤔

vapid moth
#

Armory isn't accurate though. Like for me it says I have 170 or so mastery when I have 183. Agility hp and crit are lower too

warm parcel
#

Same

#

But it does show gear

vapid moth
#

True

sharp viper
#

how much crit* you got weak?

fervent beacon
#

Looking like 38% off the armory. I'm going to try simming with boots/insig as I have 960 stocket Shoulders with Crit/mast.

#

I'm surprised that your mastery is that low however @warm parcel

lone junco
#

@warm parcel maybe it was the 222 that was incredibly boring.

fervent beacon
#

So I will have to try it with MP and compare it with EP.

warm parcel
#

Mas is p low ye

lone junco
#

Ep and rupture makes the bracer work. I love ep.

#

I won't ever reach 50% crit. But it would be nice.

strange python
#

hey wait how do i open as alac

#

lmao

#

or how do you open rather @lone junco

safe matrix
#

ask flowi

#

or weak

strange python
#

flowi would screech

lone junco
#

Same as the bracer boot subterfuge. Just no tb.

strange python
#

icic

#

just looking for something to play on argus hc

void pecan
#

if you're just farming hc for kicks and giggles

#

go EP/Alac

#

or mp alac

strange python
#

ep/alac is nice because i can literally not pay attention

strange python
#

finally got a pretty good aggramar parse

kind rose
#

yo

#

boots + bracers with alac and elaborate planning can be better than shoulder + bracers with regular build?

viscid helm
#

What is "regular" build?

#

it's bleed > Alac=TB

summer moon
#

Gnome Rogue?

void pecan
#

Yep

plain thistle
#

OH BOYS

#

alacrity is almost the same as TB for 10 min fights

#

😂

#

its happening

#

1s

#

@gaunt moat how do I change my nick to yellow ?

wide bolt
#

Yellow would be to set your spec to outlaw

plain thistle
#

well, its the closest we have for alacrity build 😛

strange python
#

still trynna get that red name

#

guess i gotta get a 100 parse first

vapid moth
#

I know it's been asked many times

plain thistle
#

@viscid helm when you did argus m with alacrity, you did with boots+raven ring? or with bracers?

vapid moth
#

But how do I make a mouse over macro

viscid helm
#

boots/bracer

plain thistle
#

k thx 😛

fathom elm
#

That's a suprise

dense blaze
#

Three shoulder bomb procs w/ TB 😩

strange python
#

zanaken did you get all of the stuff from earlier when we were playing with your raidbots

#

also with t202p your exsang will go up

#

even if its base hc

#

@fathom elm

fathom elm
#

Yes thanks mate , was chatting to noobe when I got to work about it 🙂

strange python
#

ayy neat

fathom elm
#

It's strange that when I sim with 2p t20 it's still lower than 4p t21 😑

#

And I'm going on base shoulders & gloves with 4p 21

strange python
#

try it with bracers

#

2pt20 doesnt agree well with ring

fathom elm
#

Ah that maybe why then , I'll have to have a go tomorrow, is the shoulders/ gloves the best scenario or can just use any t20 items to get 2 set ?

#

I'm thinking I've got shoulders but not sure on the gloves off the top of my head

strange python
#

depends, from my experience literally getting 2p4p is worth losing any offpieces

#

ive got some 975 that are 60% upg's that dont beat 2pc

fathom elm
#

Ah cool , yet my t20 items are 915 / 925 so not super

grim canopy
#

okay so whats the point of rogue over ww again?

strange python
#

utility

grim canopy
#

world pvp?

plain thistle
#

we soak

grim canopy
#

i dont do mythic 😦

plain thistle
#

stealth ?

grim canopy
#

lol

#

bfa better fix this shit

plain thistle
#

fix what?

strange python
#

rogues are literally one of the best classes to have for prog

#

lmao

wide bolt
#

Survivability

#

Always one spec is good

fathom elm
#

@strange python are your t20 pieces quite high bud ?

wide bolt
#

Even tho Antorus was looking to break that trend for awhile

strange python
#

nah zana i have one base and one 920

fathom elm
#

Ah that's good to know I'm in the same area as you then 🙂

strange python
#

to be better than your poison sims though the ring replacement is going to be crucial

grim canopy
#

i don't do prog tho

#

so should i go ww?

strange python
#

at that point play what you want

fathom elm
#

Hey my only worry , I've got a 960 haste / versa from outlaw set

grim canopy
#

but i dont like a guy who does the same St as me doing 5x more aoe

strange python
#

then you should probably play a different spec or class

fathom elm
#

Or 945 crit / mastery

strange python
#

not being an ass but it seems like you're not happy with the class/spec

#

zana probably the crit mast

#

i simmed you with a 950 crit vers earlier

#

hang on ill find it

grim canopy
#

i like how it plays but the aoe is so bad

#

i dont feel like farmin ww leggos lol

strange python
#

sin aoe is dependent on bombs, play sin for aoe

#

our niche is priority burst lmao

#

@fathom elm

grim canopy
#

so rogue is mostly for just progresion builds

#

and guilds

strange python
#

that 2.196 is with a 950 crit/vers ring so it should be close

#

not particularly, i mean they are really good for progression but many rogues are just in hc farm guilds

#

i personally do mostly HC and fill in for mythic kills when im needed because of my work schedule

#

the thing that sin has over ww is that it can survive more things essentially

fathom elm
#

Ah nice thanks mate , I'll keep an eye out for a crit / versa ring then 🙂

strange python
#

bleed is a lot of fun albeit a needy spec

fathom elm
#

Aye lol

grim canopy
#

i guess you have a point. WW does seem like fotm reroller atm too like 10 per every raid

strange python
#

if we did the same aoe dps as them and kept our priority burst theyd be bitching too. Idk i get that in your niche of play they arent the best but since you arent pushing realm/world first and if you enjoy the class might aswell stick with ti

void pecan
#

hey look your name's red now

strange python
#

i had to bribe 3 men and sacrifice a goat, but we made it

void pecan
#

ban this man

#

Mods

supple hearth
#

@strange python try to keep off topic memes down in general please and ty

strange python
#

sorry 😄

calm grail
#

God dammit

#

I'm using my phone in bed

#

In the dark

plain thistle
#

giggle

#

change my color to yellow plz

#

i am alacrity now

supple hearth
#

k

fervent beacon
#

Requesting yellow pls, I HAS FOUND MY WAY TO THE YELLOW ONCE AGAIN.

plain thistle
#

lol

#

😃

strange python
#

alacrity isnt a meme

#

this truly is the twilight zone

fervent beacon
#

🥄

#

👀 oh fok, I hope I don't get banned

strange python
#

🔨

fervent beacon
vapid moth
#

What's this FoK business I keep hearing about?

prime void
#

Yeah

#

I think we'll hit the 600

gaunt moat
#

i don't like this alacrity time-line

strange python
#

its a bit weird that alacrity is viable

#

since haste is our worst stat

gaunt moat
#

i assume it got slightly better cause of T21

strange python
#

i think its only good because of the t21 2p right?

#

because of the uptime on 2pc buff

plain thistle
#

alacrity 😄

#

envenom,EP, 2p and SoT uptime

strange python
#

makes sense, idk i just press exsang every 45s or so and enjoy the sights

plain thistle
#

its amazing how little you need to care about envenom uptime during KB with alacrity

#

because its almost always active

#

the envenom buff

strange python
#

when i was playing it it was literally mut->env 70%of the time

#

because i have like 70% mut crit

gaunt moat
#

these korean names are starting to be annoying. can't tell people apart

gilded lark
#

And you know none of them are even korean

strange python
#

and they're all shit rogues too

#

:^)

vapid moth
#

Yawn

#

@gilded lark I miss you

#

We rarely talk anymore

#

How's life

strange python
#

xDDDD

manic vigil
#

@gaunt moat that's why we have to join. maybe that will make them get sick of it faster? that was my plan anyway. It might backfire NotLike

dire spoke
#

poor mizuxe

strange python
#

dicking around with talents in raidbots, why does subterfuge sim so high without shoulders?

vapid moth
#

Cause you can cast while stealthed

fervent beacon
#

Dude, once I went to Alacrity for a single raid night, I cannot get back into using TBonCD anymore because of the insane uptime on env buff.

vapid moth
#

Wtf so yall just have massive crit gear laying around?

strange python
#

basically

honest needle
#

so i use scroll up for vanish and i use scroll down for toxic blade, but for some reason when i dont use toxic blade first and i vanish it activates my toxicblade. So its basically doing vanish and toxic blade when im suppose to just vanish. Is there a way to make a macro so my scroll up only activates vanish and not my scroll down spell ?

vapid moth
#

Why you using scroll for an attack? That just seems like a setup for error

honest needle
#

i been playing like that for a long time

#

never had an issue

#

untill recently

vapid moth
#

That's so weird lmao

honest needle
#

its only my toxic blade i use on scroll down

strange python
#

id suggest re-binding it because i cant think of a macro aside from making one of them shift modified

honest needle
#

well when i use shift scroll up for evasion it doesnt activate my shift scroll down which is vendetta

#

so its very confusing

#

why when i press shift it doesnt use both spells

vapid moth
#

I don't play with a mouse

strange python
#

all of that scrolling

#

my brain hurts

stone fable
#

lol for those days when you get 11 PB on vari, rip dps

strange python
#

also you could just play alacrity and then your problem is no longer there

vapid moth
#

Hey those 11pb could be some God tier logs if they happen during vanish

honest needle
#

i use shift scroll up for defense ability and shift scroll down for my offensive ability

#

on all my toons so its ez

#

but if i put tb on shift scroll down and i hold shift when i shift scroll up its not inputting my spell howcome when i dont hold shift its doing it

#

it makes no sense

vapid moth
#

🤷🏾‍♂️

stone fable
#

if vendetta, kings, and vanish are ready, should I hold off for toxic too? or just roll those 3 if toxic is a ways off?

round harbor
#

will this work for vari?

#

or what do i need to env > mfd > env

safe matrix
#

Gcd?

vapid moth
#

I don't think so. You can only macro stuff that fits in 1 global

humble scarab
#

anybody else get...somewhat long strings of relatively low poison bomb procs? particularly with high crit base stat?

round harbor
#

yeah its not casting the second envenom for sure

#

im just gonna have to be quick with it

frozen pecan
#

@stone fable only wait if it's 5sec or less away

humble scarab
#

i.e. if the average is 7-8% is it uncommon to go several consecutive pulls sitting around 3-5%?

jovial kite
#

No

supple hearth
#

average at 7-8
is it COMMON to be at 3-5

🤔

#

uncommon

#

common

#

same thing

#

amiright

jovial kite
#

if your prochance is 10 most of the time you can theoretically have multiple pulls with 0 procs

#

Like... its just how it works

humble scarab
#

yeah no I was just asking how common it was to be that low

#

only reason was I was thinking, if you have high base crit, you end up at 4 cp's as opposed to 5 frequently

#

so at least in theory each finisher has a smaller chance to proc

frozen pecan
#

but you finish more often

humble scarab
#

though you'd also end up with more finishers....again in theory

#

right

#

just wasn't sure if that'd even out

jovial kite
#

Crit has nothing to do with it

gaunt moat
#

lol giggle XD

jovial kite
#

2.5% is neglible

round harbor
#

damn that didnt do like any dmg lol

#

saving all my envenoms for adds

#

im fucking that up so much cause i do more add dmg on my enh shaman lol

jovial kite
#

by forcing 2.5% you get 1 pb more in 40 finishers on average

#

but if you just finish at 4 you get way more chances to proc

#

And

#

Its the right way to play

#

Because you dont lose cp or energy

humble scarab
#

yeah I"m not forcing it either way

#

it was more of a theoretical question.

round harbor
#

lmao

#

scuffed as fuck but we killed it so w/e

jovial kite
#

@humble scarab sometimes you highroll, sometimes you lowroll

#

Variance is a botch

gaunt moat
#

MFD?

#

wow that's dedication

round harbor
#

lol

#

thatsa only half

#

but yeah

gaunt moat
#

i'd rather just be benched

humble scarab
#

yep. agreed.

round harbor
#

i mean our normal rogue does loike 90m dmg to adds

#

and idk why they didnt want my enh, who actually does more ad dmg lol

#

there the melee add

#

6 out of 13 adds i did it right

#

monkaS

gaunt moat
#

#Worth

solar willow
#

Such a waste

round harbor
#

yeah

#
  • the envenoms i did hit fucking hit like noodles
fiery nest
#

switching to adds as a rogue 😂

#

do u not have frost mages or ele shams

#

rip your EoC

round harbor
#

usually our sub rogue and boomkin can basically solo it, both not here tonight

fervent beacon
#

Implying he has one

round harbor
#

yeah i shadow singed it

#

my eoc is shit

fiery nest
#

sub

#

yikes

round harbor
#

sub plows those lol

fiery nest
#

subport

round harbor
fiery nest
#

i mean if u want to take mfd as sub and not use eoc and do 1.3m dps

round harbor
#

last week

fiery nest
#

go for it

round harbor
#

this week

fiery nest
#

but when your ele sham can almost 1 shot them

round harbor
#

our ele sham in the second pick is resto mainspec

#

this was his first time killing vari

fiery nest
#

ahh

#

lmao

#

sec

lone junco
#

this was the smoothest run ive done in a while.

#

disc /resto. what grevious.

fiery nest
#

LOL

#

m vari add dmg

#

4min kill

#

less than a hpal btw

solar willow
#

With my friends we race on the add damage

#

So as sub i'm always top5

#

On add damage 😂

fiery nest
#

add damage as sub 🤔

#

why

#

i mean depends on the situation but in a multi target setting you're gonna get wrecked, sub uses sstorm to buff single target damage

solar willow
#

Cause thats what were wiping us. Its not like we are going to hit enrage

frozen pecan
#

My artifact weapon is glitched, when people inspect me it shows a different ilvl than what I actually have equipped, does anyone else have this issue?

fiery nest
#

inspecting doesn't show crucible bump

#

known bug

frozen pecan
#

ah ok ty

queen bluff
#

new races void elf king ?

strange python
#

Nope

frozen pecan
#

whut

queen bluff
#

im asking

#

i've run into like tons of rogues rerolling void elf

frozen pecan
#

human and dwarf still top for alliance

queen bluff
#

and im like ? is hero damage lying to me or

frozen pecan
#

No it's just because it doesn't matter

strange python
#

Yeah, swapping to void elfs is gonna get you tha M kill

frozen pecan
#

I rolled a void elf aswell, because I like how they look

solar willow
#

For the horde♿

frozen pecan
#

lul

supple hearth
#

most people dont care about 30k dps and are just going for aesthetics > utility. DPS is usually the very very very last reason why anyone rolls race tbh

zealous dew
#

Hawking is dead 😦

strange python
#

Aye, just found out

#

Random fact, he was diagnosed at the age of 21 and they told him he has like 2 more years, died at 76

fiery nest
#

he contracted motor neurone dsease in 1963 and was given two years to live

solar willow
#

I have the worst race but i'm not rerolling from undeadpistolshot

fiery nest
#

@strange python get outta my head

frozen pecan
#

good old undead rogue

strange python
#

xDDDD

solar willow
#

My rogue is a dangerboy

fiery nest
#

srsly tho this really caught me off guard. we lost one of the greats of humanity today. greatest mind since einstein

#

"My expectations were reduced to zero when I was 21. Everything since then has been a bonus."

#

"It would not be much of a universe if it wasn't home to the people you love."

#

😭

#

"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. However difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do and succeed at."

gaunt moat
#

meh, i think he was a genius on physics, but he was actually a total anti-Semite. so i have hard time mourning him.

nimble tartan
#

not going mfd gloves build for m vari

#

smh af

bold dune
#

stephen hawking couldn't even move his hands fast enough to play a rogue lol what a noob

supple hearth
#

too soon

#

I lol'd irl

#

but too soon

bold dune
#

greatest mind since einstein jesus that's cringe, the average assassination rogue is more intelligent than hawking was

strange python
#

Lmao so funny to describe it like that

wide niche
#

the average sin rogue is barely more intelligent than hawking is now

bold dune
#

lol that's pretty true

fiery nest
#

tell me someone more intelligent than hawking in his field nelbur

#

or are you just being toxic toward somone with a soft spot

#

Among the myriad other scientific investigations pursued by Hawking over the years are the study of quantum cosmology, cosmic inflation, helium production in anisotropic Big Bang universes, the density matrix of the universe, the topology and structure of the universe, baby universes, Yang-Mills instantons and the S matrix, anti-de Sitter space, quantum entanglement and entropy, the nature of space and time and the arrow of time, spacetime foam, string theory, supergravity, Euclidean quantum gravity, the gravitational Hamiltonian, the Brans-Dicke and Hoyle-Narlikar theories of gravitation, gravitational radiation, holography, time symmetry and wormholes.

#

yeah he's pretty stupid

#

/s

marble elm
#

u took the bait

fiery nest
#

haHAA trolling btw

#

13 in may btw

bold dune
#

lol imagine putting someone on a pedestal to that extent

gaunt moat
#

says in the title mate! 😄

fiery nest
#

Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice and equality

#

yikes

#

nice source man

#

Hawking retired from his position as Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge in 2009, in accordance with the University's retirement policy, and accepted a Distinguished Research Chair at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Canada. In the same year, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States.

#

really dumb

gaunt moat
#

not sure if you were being ironic or not

bold dune
#

why are you copy pasting shit in here lol literally no one cares

fiery nest
#

k bye

bold dune
#

somebody with als died lol who saw that coming

#

I don't mean to understate how terrible als is but rly who gets that upset over someone they don't personally know dying

#

seems silly to idolize ppl to such a great extent

frozen pecan
#

the kids nowadays, no respect 😦

gaunt moat
#

i mean, he was good at physics, but he's no billy harrington.

bold dune
#

that was a pleasant dude, rip aniki

frozen pecan
#

lul

zealous dew
#

people can be toxic on everything

#

sweet lord

fervent beacon
#

It's in our blood

zealous dew
#

yeah i suppose

gaunt moat
#

@!H 上 P Z!#6244

#

lol

#

he actually left

bold dune
#

he's mad

gaunt moat
#

how can someone get mad over saying hawking wasn't a god.

frozen pecan
#

maybe he idolized him

zealous dew
#

could ask the same question about ppl fighting for ronaldo vs messi

gaunt moat
#

TBH if someone said something bad about Ariana Grande i'd probably leave too

bold dune
#

ariana grande 🤢

gaunt moat
#

bye

zealous dew
#

exactly my point

frozen pecan
#

she hawt tho

#

ye stoopid, messi is better anyway

supple hearth
#

I think 70+ is a fair time to go.

#

He lived a full life.

#

Rip

wise frigate
#

Especially with ALS

frozen pecan
#

^

supple hearth
#

Pre 70 is sad but once u hit that mark imo it's not that big a deal. Everyone dies.

#

That's just me tho

zealous dew
#

agree, the problem is that ppl idolize more soccer players or singers rather than ppl that could actually change the world

supple hearth
#

soccer players

Not in the us lol

gaunt moat
#

i think that was a good time for him to go, cause he started promoting dumb shit instead of science

zealous dew
#

replace with any sport / movie crap like that

supple hearth
#

I get the point tho

frozen pecan
#

Feel the same, once you hit 70 you had a long life

faint vale
#

Reminds me of futurama where people 160+ get picked up by robots and get to the old people planet

gaunt moat
#

i think the gym i go to is that old people planet

supple hearth
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Notter do u ever sleep

zealous dew
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Notter do you even lift bro ?

simple python
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Hey I dont think guide touches on this.. How much energy should I have before vanishing with mantle ?

gaunt moat
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@simple python full, because you'd use vendetta?

frozen pecan
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@zealous dew people care more about looks and coolness instead of intelligence, the media also promotes that heavily

simple python
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Vanish is always stacked with vendetta? Huh doesnt say anything like that in guide 😮

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Is that regardless of vendetta relics?

gaunt moat
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well they overlap a lot
but anyway, you want to have full energy when you vanish

simple python
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I did notice the default simc apl exclusively vanishes with vendetta, atleast with poison build

honest needle
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Is there a way to skip defend broken isle quest on alts if i alrdy did it on my main ? I cant finish out my order advancements untill i finish the broken shore stuff

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I thought there was a way to skip it

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?

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can any 1 help me

solar willow
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Just do it

kindred forge
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NIKE

jovial kite
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yikes

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spicy morning over at rh

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reddit frontpage

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"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking

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pretty spot on on rh atleast LUL

zealous dew
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could quote several examples of that 😃

steep obsidian
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I so dum I don't know how dum i am

wind rain
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does anyone know about method dungeon tools?

solar willow
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The fuck is that

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Do my slow poison work on eonar and slow everything or was it just another player

zealous dew
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lock prob

solar willow
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I really couldnt tell if it was me making everything move like slowmo

zealous dew
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but yes they work

solar willow
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I usually do the fight as sub thats why

zealous dew
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😃

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i usually go in the ship, then focus big dudes only

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when you have locks boomkins etc is sad life

foggy socket
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well boys we start our first night of agg tomorrow

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RIP

zealous dew
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good luck

smoky wind
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Hmm, found out a few days ago that symbiote belt isn't actually the worst legendary in the world for Eonar when you only have crap leggies

jovial kite
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gl jhaycen

foggy socket
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we are specifically switching from 2 to 3 nights a week to clear it

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here's to hoping it ends well

jovial kite
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aggra is a bitch if you dont have the right comp

foggy socket
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soo what like 8 dks?

zealous dew
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or 22 locks 😃

foggy socket
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lol

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well im the only rogue

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we have 2 aff locks

jovial kite
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dks?

foggy socket
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1 of the tanks - so yeah....

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1 dk may not be enough

jovial kite
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if you got only 1 mass grip you need alot of pushback

zealous dew
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slagg do you have any videos of your kills ?

round harbor
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For every dk you add, you can realistically take off about 50-70 pulls

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They make the fight a joke tbh

onyx falcon
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so what youre saying is... raid of 20 bdks?

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1 shot it

round harbor
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-20 shot it

zealous dew
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😄

onyx falcon
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😄

round harbor
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Kill him before he even spawns

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Shit I killed him last june

jovial kite
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@zealous dew yes

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go check our wowprogg

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not my pov though

zealous dew
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thx, will do

round harbor
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Our guild has a rogue that streams

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We just killed agg on Thursday if you wanna watch his vod

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  • you get to watch me crush him on my enh
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Win/win

zealous dew
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uhuh tyrannical grievous bolstering

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gonna be fun

strange python
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its fine really

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as long as no more green orbs

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i dont care

zealous dew
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will be fun for disc priests

strange python
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ew

zealous dew
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hyrja grievous 😄

faint vale
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Grievous doesnt matter if she one shots you

zealous dew
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haha my key is hov lolz

strange python
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20+?

zealous dew
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23

strange python
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have fun with that