assassination

[turbid harbor]

and is extending so he can't farm

[shrewd oriole]

That is

A smart interpretation of what he said

I think you’re probably right

500 wipes tho yikes idd

[civic palm]

500 wipes on Dogs would be something special, way worse than my potatoes > _>"

[vestal wren]

hard core progression lul

[civic palm]

Blind Raiding

[nimble tartan]

feelsbadman

[worthy thistle]

https://i.gyazo.com/350f5327e097b2af92a5991d08f40f08.png

u guys think he would've liked this discord?

[civic palm]

Hmmm

I think I don't have time for such pathetic people.

Ah there it goes, potato Discord Server.

Also, I am sure that it's not the entire server being "racist", that's kind of judgmental on that guys part.

[shrewd oriole]

What a mongoloid

[civic palm]

A soft person.

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine being this sensible

[civic palm]

I cannot.

and honestly do not need to, as that person exists!

[north basin]

sensitive flowers being offended by name change josh- jose

?

[worthy thistle]

😂

[civic palm]

They were offended that Jose is not Josh in that language.

Oh and some avatars, or something.

[north basin]

murica went too far with all these political correctness. now kids easily offended.

[civic palm]

Nah there was a generation that is fucked somehow.

and it's not all of those people.

NeoHippies or something.

Lots of kids now are back to where I am, not willing to put up with garbage.

[north basin]

when i was a kid these people were bullied in school. now they suddenly can freely open mouths., sad times (

[civic palm]

It's only a few people really, well off and sheltered.

Those people have always existed, they just have a more vocal platform to speak.

[keen inlet]

hey

[civic palm]

👋

[keen inlet]

bring it back to topic, kthx

👍

[civic palm]

Waiting for someone to ask a question that's in the guide.

Tick Tock

[north basin]

don jose pls switch ur nick back to don josh

[keen inlet]

you want to rant about snowflakes and millennials and you feel the need to do it in ravenholdt, do it in #off-topic

[north basin]

oh sorry back to assa topic

[keen inlet]

but there are better places to do it

like reddit!

😉

[civic palm]

I'd rather yell at a mirror.

But yeah.

[nocturne gate]

hi a quick question is it more meaningful on logs to show by ilvl or for all ilvl ?

[keen inlet]

neither, honestly

[hoary copper]

I'm under 950 so I just do by ilvl to see if I'm on track or not compared to others

[keen inlet]

When you show by ilvl:

1. people can dupe it
2. limits the parses you're compared to
3. ilvl is irrelevant if you're missing key legendaries, etc

when you go by all:

1. you're being compared against bin and against god tier players, many of whom might be laughing as they farm the boss you're progressing on
2. blah blah blah

[civic palm]

and cheese, and tiny kill times.

etc.

[keen inlet]

I prefer ilvl, but that's because I'm almost always far better parsing ilvl versus overall

right

I'd say this

if you are parsing low for your ilvl

[nocturne gate]

yeah me 2 this is why i ask^^

[keen inlet]

that's by far the most useful information

you should be purple for your ilvl. If you aren't, you're not playing well.

(or you're in a high tier of gear)

[nocturne gate]

im parsin on my ilvl (963) avg 90 and against all under 83^^

85*

[keen inlet]

Then you're doing well. There's room for improvement, but thtat could be based on many factors

cheesing, PB procs, etc

[nocturne gate]

yy i know the most probs i have on kin with timing cds^^

there i parse 66-74 😄

[lone junco]

@Dr.Runsen#2331 tbh. I make it a personal goal to be > 75% by ilvl, assuming that Im not artificially deflating my ilvl.

like taking off a ring.

[nocturne gate]

😄

[lone junco]

but you cant expect to compete with people 15-18 ilvls above you

what you can do, is use the compare tool.

[nocturne gate]

guess it works only for own raidmember ?!

[lone junco]

no

compares entire wcl by ilvl. raid count. kill time.

in this case, I was the best and 3rd best for that attendance , and kill timing, and ilvl range

[hoary copper]

Of course he picks the one he was rank 1 on >.>

[lone junco]

ofc i do

there 4th on varith

[keen inlet]

you get bullied around here if you don't

oh wait, I forgot

[lone junco]

I kick the shit out of my ilvl range btw.

[keen inlet]

HEROIC LOGS BTW
PROGRESSION CONTENT```

[lone junco]

@Dr.Runsen#2331 the goal here is, if you are low on that list, to look at the top, and see what they did, taht you didnt do.

[hoary copper]

People bullied here? Never

[keen inlet]

Remember, if it's not progression to the top 5%, it's not progression ™

[lone junco]

basically, if someone else played my guy, in my raid, could they have done better.

[calm grail]

I got a 955 EoC last night and have a 960 SSF, do you think even with the EoC simming higher it's better in practice on any bosses that require swaps?

[nocturne gate]

y ofc i do it now ... dunno that this way to compare works 😃 tyvm

[lone junco]

@calm grail what % higher?

[calm grail]

.8

bout 23k

[hoary copper]

I forgot they were heroic tbh Don

[lone junco]

more than nothing

.5 is a wash for me. idk on .8

[calm grail]

I feel like any boss you can achieve and routinely maintain the ten stacks you're a-ok.

[hoary copper]

Isnt .5 the margin of error default pretty much?

[lone junco]

welll...

0.05% is the margin of the sim itself if you set to 100k.

but since pb flexes from 6% to 16% I wouldnt stress on the tiny things.

but I would use the EOC on st for sure.

and get used to the mouseovers for rupture

and human error is far more than 0.5%

so w/e

TLDR, one of the major diff between simc and amr is human error calculations.

[hoary copper]

http://www.wowhead.com/news=282629/battle-for-azeroth-live-developer-q-a-with-ion-hazzikostas-on-thursday-3-15 Q&A with Ion on Thursday...lawl queue the memes

[frosty linden]

M+ maintain only 3 ruptures or rupture everything?

[shrewd oriole]

Spec sub /s

But yeah 3

[warm parcel]

Where does 3 come from

[midnight latch]

halflife 3

confirmed

[safe matrix]

Maybe he meant to do

:3

[warm parcel]

Rupture wont randomly stop doing more damage than envenom when theres more than 3 targets

[shrewd oriole]

Dunno

I get too much energy at a certain point

Between tier and venomous wounds

[warm parcel]

Sure

It still doesnt make rup deal less damage

[frosty linden]

I only said it cos i heard any damage gained by extra ruptures from the point of 4 and onwards is less than that of getting envenoms out

[lone junco]

@frosty linden rupture in M+ depends on how long things last and how many there are. If they die in less than say 10 sec, dont bother with a rupture. In the example where there are like 3-20 mobs that last for a "long time"

you could fok rupture fok env fok rupture.

you need to keep env going, and ruptures going.

[warm parcel]

^

Keep tier up

Spread rupture

[lone junco]

they both proc pb, but without the env, you will go dry.

[frosty linden]

So for example on this week's fortified mobs the ruptures would be gucci

[lone junco]

when things die with rupture up they give you a ton of E.

What I do, is set up the ruptures then env them down after that. I dont typ have time to reapply.

fok env fok rupture. repeat till all have rupture then just fok env on the priority.

or orbs.

[frosty linden]

first finisher env?

[lone junco]

a good point tho, dont rupture during the shoulder buff.

mut env mut env mut vanish env mut env mut env

play the vanish how you see fit, but dont waste the crit on ruptures.

and with shoulder, you can mut at 3T. will be 4cp. whereas a cold fok will be 4cp with or with no PK and flight time.

[frosty linden]

on m+ trash should you still only env in opener?

[lone junco]

if the initial pull is 4+ feel free to fok away.

i would

if you are using shoulders.

[frosty linden]

is that not asking to be energy starved?

[safe matrix]

T21

[lone junco]

not for the first 8 sec.

or 4

youll be fine.

[spare cloud]

I'm doing transmog runs right now, don where do I get sick mogs

[lone junco]

#transmog

[frosty linden]

oh fuuuck yeah that tier bonus

[lone junco]

that tier is why we keep env up

[spare cloud]

I'm just hoping don reads this

[lone junco]

the applicaion of dp from fok during env is important

[frosty linden]

fuck man this is why i dont do m+ lol i have no fkn clue

[spare cloud]

I don't want to ping him because im scared

[lone junco]

its fine, just hammer out mad bombs and vendetta the big stuff

stack mastery in your trash set.

[safe matrix]

@keen inlet this guy is too scared to ping you

[spare cloud]

Banned

[safe matrix]

He wants to know where transmogs are

[spare cloud]

Yeah what are transmits

and how do you use them

[lone junco]

transmit the mogs

[shrewd oriole]

Transmutation ?

[frosty linden]

Is it worth putting vendetta on trash tho

[spare cloud]

more worth than not using it

[lone junco]

just keep an eye on boss timing.

[spare cloud]

preferably on a mob that lives most of the duration

[lone junco]

on fort esp.

I use it on the priority. giants etc

[frosty linden]

i got that 1.13 vend

[lone junco]

EoA double giant pull. vendetta on one, is back up for boss.

[frosty linden]

so its not bad at all

I went for the 3 MAss and 3 MAlch

[lone junco]

good pick

then if you have shoulder bracer. and a priority is in a pack.

Vend mut tb env mut env mut vanish env mut env mut

cheers.

no one brings us for aoe anyway

[frosty linden]

ikr i always feel so dependant on that pb rng

[lone junco]

make sure your tank stops moving before you bust

imo

nothing worse than leaving 3 bombs cause you decided to open on the run

just like glaives. dont drop them until the pack is stationary

[keen inlet]

@safe matrix @spare cloud tbh I think pieces of the heart of fear (mop) set are really under-rated

[spare cloud]

Yeah I was gonna get that

[keen inlet]

Blue/brown

[spare cloud]

looks really good

[frosty linden]

so should i not even bother until they stop moving?

[keen inlet]

on reg

[spare cloud]

the hc one

[keen inlet]

white set is kinda neat too

but I prefer the blue

[spare cloud]

Uh normal one*

looks best

[keen inlet]

Shoulders pair great with alliance t9

[spare cloud]

How is soloing wod content?

just faceroll?

[lone junco]

@frosty linden depends. use your brain. but when my tank pulls, and I know he is going to a LOS. just wait till the shit gets there.

[keen inlet]

Haven't tried/bothered

[spare cloud]

I want the brf set as well

[keen inlet]

I think it's still tough(ish) on some fights mythic. heroic/norm should be fine

[frosty linden]

knowing my gameplay i dont use my brain often

[spare cloud]

and some daggers from there

Mythic

Inb4 I get elegon mount from tot

[keen inlet]

Did they fix the dude

[spare cloud]

first time im in there

[keen inlet]

the fat souls dude...

what's his name ugh

he was badass in BT

yeah gorefiend

[lone junco]

@frosty linden you have like 8 sec to do 50M damage. 3 bombs out of 6 will be 💸

[keen inlet]

okay

lol

[lone junco]

once stealth breaks, you just fok rupture fok env fok rupture. make sure you have a good nameplates with rupture tracking.

silly not to

[spare cloud]

Oh god furnace

I actually need to play there <.<

[lone junco]

i hated furnace so much

[spare cloud]

It was fun on progress

as warrior at least

[lone junco]

Train was ok. not the worst.

[spare cloud]

but now its aids if you just wanna rush

[keen inlet]

I loved trains

[lone junco]

I hated Oregorger

[keen inlet]

trains was one of my favorite fights in the game

[spare cloud]

You dont love trains anymore?`

[keen inlet]

well it got old

as all farmed content does

even blessed Ulduar is old

[lone junco]

worst content

barf

[keen inlet]

and re-running for a mount that will never drop

You can keep your (wrong) opinion to yourself Noobe

[lone junco]

im now doubly mad cause uld graphics fried my mobo

[keen inlet]

❤

[lone junco]

I sure hope people enjoyed the TW. cause, ugh

super cool play at 7% crit

good thing we have shoulders

[spare cloud]

Emerald Nightmare > Brf

[lone junco]

HFC and ICC were both very good. imo

[fleet whale]

what crit % do all you guys like to hang out with?

[lone junco]

45

[spare cloud]

22

[lone junco]

actually thats the range 22-45

[fleet whale]

wow... I guess I'm low at 33% lol

[lone junco]

nah

depends on gear

MP TB is fine

[fleet whale]

yeah, that's what I though

thought*

[lone junco]

in the 40s we switch to EP

[shrewd oriole]

gorefiend

that dude was

thicc

[spare cloud]

Yeah you're really low with 33%

[lone junco]

(Ep buffs rupture, bracers buff rupture) Ill take

[spare cloud]

[lone junco]

🤺

[shrewd oriole]

🚑

[fleet whale]

I wouldn't want to be anything below 25% crit tbh

anywhere*

[spare cloud]

Yes you dont

How does kaelthas work

in storm keep

I killed his advisors and his weapons now nothing is happening

[fleet whale]

it's a ton of rp

[wide bolt]

^

[fleet whale]

he should rez all of them when you kill the weps

but it takes time cause back then people looted the weps

[spare cloud]

Yeah he just waited for a minute

[lone junco]

speaking of weps. @keen inlet im worried about making the jump to druid for weps.

[spare cloud]

because he admired my sick dps

[fleet whale]

are you re-rolling away from rogue?

[lone junco]

BFA

lots depend on the fate of battlerez

[spare cloud]

didn't drop chest

[fleet whale]

why? assassination doesn't seem all that different gameplay wise

[spare cloud]

have to do that shit again

[fleet whale]

unless if you don't like sin in Legion I guess

[lone junco]

. . . Rogue cant battle rez

I like sin. my best dps expac to date.

[fleet whale]

I guess you would go feral then as it is pretty similar at least in theory

[shrewd oriole]

feral

lol

feral is just a subpar rogue all around

[fleet whale]

I mean yeah but it's not that bad in antorus

does anyone else wish that sometime in BFA alpha they replace PB with KB in that tier of talents?

[shrewd oriole]

what the

where did my post go

[fleet whale]

And yeah I'm never going to re-roll from rogue he's been my main since I started playing

[shrewd oriole]

oh there it is

feral is not bad in terms of damage

[keen inlet]

@lone junco what about tho? Staffs swap specs don't they?

[shrewd oriole]

dealing damage isnt enough to be good

[keen inlet]

they'll probably go back to feral using staff

[shrewd oriole]

feral is trash cuz it has no utility

[keen inlet]

and/or bear using staff

[fleet whale]

well, brez is utility....

[shrewd oriole]

roar with like 0.1 yard range btw xd

yeah

[keen inlet]

Everybody's going to have some utility in bfa.

[shrewd oriole]

that like

10 other classes have

@keen inlet feral has utility

it's just trash

roar is really bad

[fleet whale]

even with the upcoming nerfs to cloak and feint rogue personal utility is still going to be good

at least in pve, pvp different story

[shrewd oriole]

true

[magic laurel]

Quick question, best legendary combo for mythic +?

[shrewd oriole]

feral is amazing in pvp

@magic laurel wrists shoulders

[spare cloud]

Sublety

[fleet whale]

I just use wrist shoulders

[shrewd oriole]

true

[magic laurel]

Thanks @shrewd oriole

[shrewd oriole]

no problem dude

[magic laurel]

No cloak?

[fleet whale]

cloak is bad now for aoe

doesn't scale with mastery

[magic laurel]

Ohhh

[fleet whale]

plus it takes too long to ramp up

[magic laurel]

Thanks guys, appreciate it

[spare cloud]

I'm doing patchwerk fight soon, lets see how much I sim 🤔

[lone junco]

2.34

[prime void]

^1.9M

[spare cloud]

Are there any shortcuts in naxx or do you have to walk back to the entrance every time

[wide bolt]

There should be a teleporter by the last boss of each wing

[spare cloud]

fml I walked back

[prime void]

I just scrolled up, you have 22% crit?

Tf?

[spare cloud]

I had

got kingaroth ring

had versa+ mastery offpieces in every slot

[prime void]

Id kms

With that shit of crit

[spare cloud]

yeah

it simmed higher than mast

rip patchwork fight ended too fast

no recount recording

guess no patchwerk sim

[fervent beacon]

I think mastery is beating Crit for me ATM as Alacrity

[fleet whale]

People use alacrity?

[viscid helm]

Someone DOESNT use Alacrity??

[plain thistle]

🤔

[plain glacier]

@here LF WA UI 😃

[dense gulch]

might be a retarded question but if you get 3 relics with the FoK trait is it still worth to use FoK as your main CP builder?

[zealous dew]

you use fok at 3 with 5+ pk

other than that mut

[dense gulch]

alright then thanks

[minor valve]

If you're at 4CP and you have 5+ Poison Knives traits, should you FoK again or use a finisher?

[lone junco]

no

[plain thistle]

@plain glacier you can have mine, https://wago.io/Hk97Xy-Yf, but there is a lot you need to do to get the same visual as mine

[lone junco]

@minor valve if you are at 3cp. and have 5pk you can fok to get to 4

finish on 4/5

but no one wants pk relics

get Vend/bb/malch

[zealous dew]

i want them 😃

[nimble tartan]

who else would fuck sneaky in that cosplay

[shrewd oriole]

link

[nimble tartan]

100%

[safe matrix]

The maid cosplay?

[shrewd oriole]

what the fuck

[nimble tartan]

100%

would

i would love it too

poppin that bussy ya feel e

me

[shrewd oriole]

yo is he a tranny or something

this is getting weird

🐵

[warm parcel]

Hold on

[shrewd oriole]

[warm parcel]

Is that actually sneaky

[shrewd oriole]

ye

[warm parcel]

Hes almost as sexy as boxbox

[nimble tartan]

sneakygasm

[golden ravine]

O.O

[violet elm]

!crucible

[ruby badge]

Is it worth giving up one Master alch trait to reach 3 master assassin traits?

[plain thistle]

sim it 😃

[wise frigate]

Boxbox sets unrealistic standards for how hot a man can be while dressed up as a girl.

[supple hearth]

Keep the off topic memes/pics down in general plz and ty

No reason to be posting twitter profiles to multiple channels it's already down in general.

[radiant osprey]

anyone happen to have a pic of sim dps between all classes this patch or w.e

[spare cloud]

No because everyone sims different

[nimble tartan]

i think its applicable to this channel because sneaky is so hot its a SIN not to adore him

haha 😃

[spare cloud]

also his name is sneaky

[nimble tartan]

thats true

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[shrewd oriole]

@lone junco you there

[faint fiber]

Anyone knows how to get the Assass crucible weights from the spreadsheet? (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=1313815463) the string is fucked in Assass, but works fine in sub. Am i just retarded=

[fringe ginkgo]

@faint fiber right click the "cruweight" part and select "copy"

[faint fiber]

ty ❤

[hot snow]

anyone here run the marked prey in m varimathris?

[viscid helm]

yes, why?

[hot snow]

How do you handle the necrotic and marked for prey?

Yea

[safe matrix]

Battle res 🤷

[hot snow]

What about when they line up?

just bad rng?

[safe matrix]

you either get someone else to soak or you save a bres

[hot snow]

We have 2 sins (myself included) and we both got hit with necrotic while marked for prey

So if you get knocked out with marked with necrotic you just stay out there and die? what about the add?

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole ayy

[fervent beacon]

Ideally a warrior should take the marked because they can just charge back in.

[lone junco]

we have a sub do it back to back to back

o. when you get aids, yeah

[signal oxide]

@hot snow you are able to soak the marked pray and step back to boss and use sprint out to the mark in time

Timing is close but it happened to me a few times last time we killed vari

[hot snow]

It's only happened like 3 times but we've wiped because of it

[gleaming island]

question!

If I am Undead, should I go belf?

[fervent beacon]

Doesn't matter that much. It's roughly 1-2% dps difference across all races

[gleaming island]

is belf highest?

[signal oxide]

Like I said you should be able to save sprint and make it out for necrotic in time

[prime void]

You can do marked prey and debuff.

You have time

[fervent beacon]

@gleaming island belf is pretty up high dues to torrent

[prime void]

Belf is OP.

[safe matrix]

AoE silence is nutty for m+

🔩 🌰 🥜

[fervent beacon]

Void elf rift have some nifty use tho.

[safe matrix]

Great for heroic argus if you get burst

toss it out, sprint the fuck out, cloak off the bomb, tele back in

literally no downtime

[exotic venture]

Is there one giant WA for notters compilation?

Or do I have to download them individually.

[fervent beacon]

I use it alot on mythic kin to move add to add. Set up my rift at 5%, dead add, port to my rift and take lock gateway, shadowstep to the next add.

[safe matrix]

Ye, it has some good use

especiall with sin's one shadowstep

[prime void]

Belf m+ still too op

[safe matrix]

but alliance tho

[fervent beacon]

Having belf model as alliance is 👌

[prime void]

Playing alliance makes no sense

[echo estuary]

Except best race for pvp you mean? xd

[prime void]

Minigames are OP

[spare cloud]

Can you

voidelf kj

[safe matrix]

the teleport has a time limit, but no range limit

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[primal tangle]

Sooo... subtlety chat last night at 3am: Today at 9:30pm was the last message. Sin chat at 3am: actively chatting FeelsBadMan

[safe matrix]

dead spec 🤷

[jagged loom]

what was the raid frames that was mentioned a few days ago?

[spare cloud]

Elvui

[jagged loom]

someone said they weren't going to setup elvui just for the raid frames then someone mentioned something else that had been discontinued, but someone else picked updating it

[spare cloud]

Elvui

[jagged loom]

I wasn't at home when it was mentioned, so I couldn't look into it 😦

[spare cloud]

Like, you can just disable everything and just use the raidframes 🤷 @dire spoke

[pseudo rain]

so with bleeds and poisons scaling with haste, does that make troll the better race for rogue?

[spare cloud]

it does make it better.

[jagged loom]

There was something else mentioned, but guess I will just stick with ElvUI for now

tried doing a search, but not finding it. Thanks anyways

[brisk surge]

if u had [Aman'Thul's Vision] would u guys rock it?

[plain thistle]

nah, agility one is better

[safe matrix]

I'd keep it in my bags to farm the salt in my raid

[brisk surge]

lol

[plain thistle]

thats was exactly what I did when I got a 905 arcano crystal, when 905 was a super good ilvl 😂

every day i would post the trinket in guild chat

[paper mural]

Evening all, is there anyone who wish to dig through my shit first mythic kill logs to rip me a new one and tell me where I need to improve (probably a lot of areas)

[spare cloud]

Just post them

[paper mural]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmRgG3F4vLfqhpzc#type=damage-done&fight=5&source=9

[plain thistle]

@lone junco thats your job, analyze his logs

😛

[sacred cobalt]

Hey is subterfuge still better than nightstalker? T21 4 piece shoulders wrists

[spare cloud]

sim

but generally no

[round harbor]

It's only like a 4k difference for me so I just play sub terfuge

For me at least

[plain thistle]

with shoulder NS will probably be better, but sim it

[spare cloud]

@paper mural Why do you play with subterfuge

with bracers shoulders

did you sim?

[paper mural]

I did a while back (a good few months), let me run sims now

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/7b4bbd5095931c61891c49f8e344bfcc

Don't do that

[safe matrix]

Also you generally shouldnt be refreshing garrote during TB cause its a pretty big energy sink

[paper mural]

Cool, thanks!

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/6be638cd3f524e26ffb5cfd8fb3a8b40

don't do that

Delay vanish for vendetta

but not other way around

[paper mural]

The first screenshot, can you explain please? Are you referring to mutilate after kb?

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/da4f7fa7b61bbc251a9c5f9a378e5c8a

No I'm referring to why you use kingsbane when you have to play a mechanic

[safe matrix]

also you have a lot of places where your envenom falls off during KB

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmRgG3F4vLfqhpzc#fight=5&type=auras&source=9&ability=192759&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%24159240464.0.0.Rogue%24true%24159240464.0.0.Rogue%24false%2432645

[spare cloud]

and can't make use of it

Yeah, was about to say that

[paper mural]

Ah, good call

This is really helpful! Thanks guys

[safe matrix]

rupture only at 80% uptime too

that should be close to 100

[spare cloud]

Yeah you have kinda of weird uptimes

[safe matrix]

garrote at 76

[spare cloud]

What do you do when you have to play a mechanic?

[safe matrix]

I refresh then soak 🤷

[spare cloud]

do you think ahead and refresh your stuff and make sure that everything is up before going to soak for example

[paper mural]

I try to

But make silly mistakes in some fights by refreshing during a phase

[safe matrix]

like garothi I'll toss a rupture/garrote on the fucker after we kill the cannons

[paper mural]

Before a phase*

[safe matrix]

then run out

[spare cloud]

Again don't use vanish outside of vendetta

[paper mural]

Ok, so hold onto vanish, I normally use it off cooldown to refresh garrote when it's low

[spare cloud]

well tbh I've never seen someone play subterfuge with shoulders

[safe matrix]

^

also you have so many ranged, they should be soaking more

[paper mural]

Yea... It was an issue

Again, thank you guys.

[spare cloud]

I'm confused honestly

like, do you vanish on cd with subterfuge

even with shoulders

probably not though

[safe matrix]

Yeah I soak sometimes

but I don't get every single one

cause muh deeps

[round harbor]

Ya fuck everyone else. My parse only one that matters

[safe matrix]

oh

I meant mythic garothi

I dunno if that shit would kill me

and I aint looking to get melee'd by mr. worldwidebreaker any time soon

[paper mural]

Sims are stating 0.8% increase with NS

[safe matrix]

then spec over 🤷

its easier to play with imo

[round harbor]

Less punishing if you mess up the one important global

[paper mural]

Again, thanks guys, notes taken. Means a lot 😃

[safe matrix]

just get a heroic vari log or something

and compare yours to a top tier player's parse in timeline

that's how I do it usually

[paper mural]

Aye, literally just looking for a heroic group now to try out the tips you guys gave

[plain thistle]

@warm parcel @viscid helm can you guys confirm something? for mythic argus phase 3, do melees need to bait the orb too?

or someone else who already did the fight too

[warm parcel]

module?

ye

[plain thistle]

just want a second opinion 😄

oh ok thx

[vapid moth]

how many rounds of annihilation decimation do you guys go through before the second cannon on M garothi

[safe matrix]

depends how good your dps is

[vapid moth]

yeah thats why im worried

we are taking over 6

[steep obsidian]

i wouldnt overthink it just kill the boss 😛

[vapid moth]

it happened

we are good

[steep obsidian]

😃

[prime void]

@safe matrix comparing to sin top logs is usually meh. Lot of players with a lot mistakes but amazing PB.

[safe matrix]

I didn't say top logs

I said top tier players logs 😉

[prime void]

I misread XD

Sleepy mizuxe.

Sorry bb

[safe matrix]

It's okay

I'm also tired as fk

[prime void]

Ive had the flu past 2 days. Haven't gotten up except to puke

[safe matrix]

FeelsBadMan

[prime void]

Not even raiding rip

Raid got cancelled because of me :(

[safe matrix]

I haven't played wow since like last Tuesday or something

Well that's good, that means you're a critical player

[quick ice]

that sounds nice

[safe matrix]

Take the ego boost

[prime void]

500 wipes

Id take the monkeys

[quick ice]

dw, we've spent nearly as many attempts on our rekills of aggramar as we did killing him in the first place now 😦

[safe matrix]

Don't worry I'll make you guys feel better

4/11M and I think my guild may be on its deathbed

[steep obsidian]

GOTTA GET MAH PARSES ON FARM DUDE FK DEM MECHS SOMEONE ELSE CAN DO EM

[quick ice]

probably exaggerating, but we took ~100 for 1st kill, and we're up in the 150s now at 3 kills and having failed to kill him this week due to roster issues 😦

I always do 1st pod

because for some reason other people die

[steep obsidian]

I killed mythic Krosus so many times, if i didnt run to the back of the frigging room there were always missed soaks back there

[safe matrix]

Man, we never extend our lockouts so sometimes we can't even progress that week

I kinda envy you guys and your progression

[steep obsidian]

same kill hunter is like "check mah 100% parse dudes i rock" 0 add damage

[quick ice]

tbh, I can't talk. I don't swap on vari adds

[prime void]

I just want retards to stop dying to scythes

[steep obsidian]

meh i reckon they will nerf aggy and argus soon then everyone will kill it

[prime void]

Thats all

[quick ice]

our tank add always is out of melee range, and I'm too busy not getting cleaved and reorienting myself after shadowstep

[prime void]

P3

[steep obsidian]

so many guilds stuck on it

[quick ice]

500 guilds killed aggramar but not argus

~800 killed coven but not aggramar

[steep obsidian]

yeh

[prime void]

Agg took 70 pulls. Lol

[quick ice]

its about even percentage wise I think

[steep obsidian]

a lot of those have just given up

[prime void]

It was a joke

But argus for us? Oh boi

[quick ice]

we had to swap 2 DKs in because we don't have any

so that was rough

[prime void]

Its our healers

Like thats it

90% on our heals

Chains just die

So we die

And we benched a healer and her bf is main tank and baby rafed

We only have problems with 4th set I believe

We have nothing at that point I believe

We suicide second not 3rd

Most of our wipes are 20% ish

With multiple sub 5% wipes.

But now we're set back a ton by losing that tank

I think 3rd is a ton better.

[vapid moth]

i like the dogs

dogs are a fun boss

[prime void]

Dogs are a joke

Such a weird boss. Just feels random.

Like someone randomly gets picked up to spew shit ?

[vapid moth]

i is a noob

i took 3 lines to the face

the fire lines

[strange python]

When we were on argus prog we swapped the strat from suiciding 2nd to 3rd chains and killed it the next day

[queen monolith]

shoulders bracers bis for single or shoulder boots?

[gaunt moat]

they are both good for ST
which one is better depends on the fight / your gear

[ebon wyvern]

should i fan of knives rather than mutilate at 4cp so i don't overflow or just envenom at 4?

[onyx falcon]

• After Opener: The most important thing for your rotation is keeping both Rupture and Garrote up at least 95% uptime.

• When both bleeds are up use Envenom at 4+ combo points. Try to use Envenom right before your Envenom buff falls off.

[ebon wyvern]

Thanks

[plain thistle]

argus 8% boys, almost there, hopefully 😂

[austere tendon]

so close

you got it!

dont do what our guild did and get an 8% and continue to not kill him for a week :DD:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[plain thistle]

I died 50s before the wipe =/

was going to soak a little orb and got tank scythe

rip

haha

[austere tendon]

we also had a 0% wipe.

with 85mil left

so...

argus ❤

[plain thistle]

we got one 0% wipe on aggramar

10M hp

[austere tendon]

wow rip

[plain thistle]

so we know the feeling

😂

[austere tendon]

where was the cheat death tanking??

[plain thistle]

nah, that was a tank fault, he didnt move the boss, 3-4 adds touched the boss

instant wipe almost

[austere tendon]

ouchh

[plain thistle]

and I was playing DK, not rogue 😦

[austere tendon]

rip. unlucky

oh well. Good luck with argus! you got it soon 😃

[plain thistle]

thx 😛

[fervent beacon]

Nah @plain thistle will never kill it.

[plain thistle]

why =(?

I dont even care anymore tho, some korean guy stole my rank1 shivarra that was excited about putting public

hahahah or hueheueuhe

[fervent beacon]

Always the god damn Asian

[shut bay]

what trinkets do yall run?

dont really care what sims the best, just wanna know what you guys have the best luck running

[plain thistle]

pantheon + dogs crit trinket

[frozen pecan]

Does anyone have a few tips for the eonar fight? I feel like I'm in a ♿ the whole fight lul

[shut bay]

poison bomb procs op in that fight

use fan of knives to cripple/dot

and yeah, focus big adds

[frozen pecan]

ye that's what I kinda did, that fights so ass tho

[shut bay]

yeah

not much you can do, youll only do better depending on your poison bomb proc

yeah

[frozen pecan]

don't understand how people got those thicc logs on that fight

[shut bay]

only reason i got a 94 was with the massive poison bomb procs

[frozen pecan]

so keeping cd's for the fat adds is the right thing to do?

[shut bay]

dont wait around for shit though, always be a place helping another group if you massacre your group

generally yeah

but i would use it asap on anything you can get damage off on

[frozen pecan]

ok lel

[plain thistle]

thats why eonar logs is just bullshit

😃

[shut bay]

yup

[plain thistle]

I bet asians guys like to do stuffs like, setting each week the player who will farm logs

😂

[shut bay]

lmao

[strange python]

Top kek

[frozen pecan]

true lol

[remote oak]

I've finally done it weeps tears of joy

First CE

[frozen pecan]

gz

[remote oak]

😄

[restive inlet]

gz!

I've gone of the deep end boys. Currently using a setup that sims 14k less than my top one. Fuck versa, I want crit!

[dire spoke]

[restive inlet]

getting two combopoints from a mutilate makes me tilt>:(

[frozen pecan]

14K 😮

ye I agree that's fuckin annoying

[lone junco]

Bb relics help. And. Crit 😃

[safe matrix]

And being lucky 😀

[restive inlet]

😃

[dire spoke]

gud mornin

☕

[warm sky]

God Morgon, Hyvää Huomenta

[dire spoke]

balders balle

[gaunt moat]

בוקר טוב

[viscid helm]

[gaunt moat]

Native language flowi 😠

[viscid helm]

@gaunt moat can you stop harassing Tom

Someone already said

It in Finnish

[dire spoke]

wasn't that swedish?

ohh the second one

[frozen pecan]

Guten Morgen

[dire spoke]

Guete Morgä

[safe matrix]

Good morning

[strange python]

Hallo

Where did the red names go

Just Noobe and myself now

[dire spoke]

you don't even play

[valid plank]

times change

[jovial kite]

morning team

[safe matrix]

https://i.imgur.com/LwEWwmG.gif

[plain thistle]

and what about a color for alacrity? 🤔

the clan is growing, I think it would be nice

[safe matrix]

Flows is asleep

I think he sleeps

Not sure about that though

[gaunt moat]

@plain thistle stahp.

[plain thistle]

we could even re use outlaw color, because you know, who plays outlaw 🤷

[gaunt moat]

that's why flowi is yellow

[safe matrix]

Outlaw? What is that?

[warm sky]

Just received shoulders, do i specc vigor to be able to do the opener more fluently ?

[safe matrix]

Sim it, but probably

[gilded lark]

should be specced vigor in the first place

unless bleed

DS

[tranquil birch]

When would you not use vigor 🤔

[gilded lark]

bleed

[warm sky]

Good to know, just went with ravenholdts talent guide thingy "They are very close in performance. Choose your prefered playstyle."

But il guess il sim and see, when i get home.

Thanks.

[gaunt moat]

well they are close in performance.
but vigor is more versatile.

[round harbor]

@strange python I'm res

Red. Idk why though

Wtb purple name

[gaunt moat]

!despot @round harbor

nope, didn't work

sorry

[safe matrix]

Notter

[round harbor]

Unluck

[safe matrix]

What if that DID work?

[gaunt moat]

then we'd have a new despot

[safe matrix]

And then you couldn't undespot him?

[gaunt moat]

you don't think he deserves being one?

[dire spoke]

stjern lurking again 👀

[pallid lagoon]

Hi guys as a new Rogue I tried to have a look on the assassination guide but when I click on the link which is in pin it doesn't work properly, the webpage appear as text html code only ! Is there another guide that I can have a look on ?

[dire spoke]

Works fine here, restart your system

or format C

[viscid helm]

Try different browser

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/yeQWbj.jpg

lmao

when this guy does more output I noose

[tranquil birch]

925 nbf

[cloud dune]

shit, I've been leaning back. no wonder I always die to easy mechanics

[strange python]

How can I do more dps

Lean forward

Yell at the screen

[zealous dew]

leaning is for casters only

to try to dodge mechanics while finishing their stupid cast

just macro feint into every ability

[dire spoke]

[zealous dew]

can't die if you're immortal

[dire spoke]

I forgot to sign up for agg today

Doubt it

cus I'm not there

[zealous dew]

when is this fucking explosive week ending

[faint vale]

*What is dead may never day. Corrected it for you shantal

[zealous dew]

can't stand this shit anymore

😦

i'll fake some connection issues then

[lost horizon]

Teeming explosive 🤢

[dire spoke]

didn't do a single m+ this week

[zealous dew]

they should make only 1 orb spawn with 2092093002 hp

and you have 0.2s to kill it

[lost horizon]

Vari add style LOL

[frozen pecan]

have to do 15+ today aswell

[dire spoke]

@plain thistle will carry me m+ with his DK I heard

[zealous dew]

yeah wtb boost

[viscid helm]

M+

[dire spoke]

finishing endgame after 6month

[viscid helm]

O ye, i should prob download the alpha so i could write it

[zealous dew]

can you write one to remove rogue from game

[viscid helm]

Then what am i gonna play

BM?

[zealous dew]

sp

[viscid helm]

Actually my 930 BM is clearing antorus M now

Prio on all loot

[zealous dew]

bm lol

[viscid helm]

🙃

[dire spoke]

just r3 things

[viscid helm]

Cos apparently its the shittiest alt in the guild

[faint vale]

930 is the ilvl my hunter had when we started tos m splits

[viscid helm]

Its the ilvl of my hunter now killing M argus

🤷

[frozen pecan]

lul

[viscid helm]

This is why putting effort into an alt is pointless

[sharp viper]

#boosted

[faint vale]

Ilvl doesnt matter if you are a #3 player

Do you even survive endless rage?

[zealous dew]

why would you play BM

[viscid helm]

I beat weaks 970 mage

On every boss

[sharp viper]

is he playing arcane or afking?

[viscid helm]

Cos i can play BM eyes closed at 90%

No he dead

[zealous dew]

yeah why playing then 😃

[frozen pecan]

haha

[viscid helm]

Every boss

Cos im forced to play

We wanna do 2x aggra and argus a reset

[sharp viper]

well you can just mash 3 buttons and still perform fine as BM

[frozen pecan]

forced to play a videogame DansGame

[dire spoke]

I just want the mount

[viscid helm]

8M

And u can have it

[sharp viper]

reclearing entire m antorus on alts is not bad

[round harbor]

the mount is ugly af

[zealous dew]

why are you forced to do 2x

[dire spoke]

so is TLPD

[zealous dew]

xp is over

[viscid helm]

No we dont split or full alt raid

We do one clear

Take like 4-5 alts in

To get geared

[zealous dew]

geared for what 😃

[frozen pecan]

whats the point tho lol

[viscid helm]

To do 2xaggra and argus

?

[midnight latch]

BFA DUH

[sharp viper]

mains maxed out probably

[zealous dew]

yeah why

[viscid helm]

To sell mounts?

[frozen pecan]

whats the point on gearing your alt ^^

[viscid helm]

Its 8M per mount

[zealous dew]

...

who the fuck pays 8m for that shit

[sharp viper]

you get to keep that gold or all glory to the guild bank?

[shut bay]

8m shit aye

[viscid helm]

We just split it

[sharp viper]

rich arabs/norwegians who don't raid mythic

[shut bay]

take me for free x

[frozen pecan]

I can offer 50k

[zealous dew]

421k a week

[shut bay]

going to frostmourne has been the best idea

[zealous dew]

split between 19

i'd rather play AH than raiding

[sharp viper]

it isn't that much effort tho if people do it properly

[viscid helm]

I mean

[zealous dew]

dunno I have a deep hate for that place

[viscid helm]

Its 4 bosses in total

Per week

[zealous dew]

yeah also true

[sharp viper]

what i wonder tho is: do boostees have to participate at all on f.e. argus? like collecting orbs

[viscid helm]

No

[hazy flame]

Hc boosting is easier imo if you want gold

[viscid helm]

Who the fuck wants to clear HC?

[hazy flame]

But i guess youre doing argus anyways so

Its 1h ez

[zealous dew]

i clear hc for essences

and buy legendaries for alts

[shut bay]

i cbf

[zealous dew]

and ofc I afk every trash pack

because trash...

[sharp viper]

lol you can just have one alt with a 10/11hc ID to use for boosting argus kills

[viscid helm]

All my alts still onlyhave like 2-3 legos

[zealous dew]

i kinda like Hpala now in m+

but pugs suck

so cba to do them

[midnight latch]

meanwhile mistweaver

dropping every heal in the book on one target

target still declining in health

[lethal heart]

mistweaver LUL

[midnight latch]

I mean I really like mistweaver man

but it sucks in m+

[zealous dew]

😃

[midnight latch]

so foking much

cocoon trash cd

revival trash

[viscid helm]

Can u find a new guild pls Naya

[midnight latch]

meanwhile holy pala
look i have a heal on a 8 second cd with always overheals cause why not

I am working on it

I heard memento is looking for a rogue for farm?

cause one of them cba to play bosses

[viscid helm]

U could legit play my account

Im not on TS anyway half of the raids

[midnight latch]

k

[viscid helm]

But you would obviously need to beat weak on every boss

[midnight latch]

EZ dude

[shrewd oriole]

Morning fellas

[midnight latch]

[strange python]

Top of the morning

[solid nova]

👋🏼

[dire spoke]

👀

[valid plank]

hello

[frozen pecan]

🤔

[jovial kite]

Snus bros

[frozen pecan]

super stronk

[jovial kite]

Super stronk white

[dire spoke]

swedish girl sent me snus once, couldn't understand why ppl do it

[jovial kite]

for me, its relaxing

I smoked for 10 years

[frozen pecan]

don't worry zempai, I can't either

[jovial kite]

Havent smoked in 2

[frozen pecan]

it's salty

[solid nova]

Dont you like, sit it on your gums or something?

[frozen pecan]

not kidding

[solid nova]

Never tried the stuff

[jovial kite]

aint nothing better than eat breakfast, have a cup of coffee, take a shower, snus it up and lie on sofa playing games

Yeah, you dont chew it

[dire spoke]

chewing snus lmao

[solid nova]

Got a few Swedish friends who are alwas on the stuff

Coffee and snus seems to be a thing

[frozen pecan]

Are there other flavours than salt?

[jovial kite]

yeah

[frozen pecan]

I only had salty ones

[jovial kite]

All flavors

Peppermint liquorice whiskey rum whatever.. everything

[viscid helm]

Man u could make a fortune selling snus back in the army

[jovial kite]

but ur not supposed to taste it 🤣

yeah flowi

Sold an odens tower for 90 euros when we had a week long camo

[frozen pecan]

What do you mean lul

[jovial kite]

Camp

[dire spoke]

found it disgusting as it triggered my mouth fluids I need to swallow it

[jovial kite]

it costs 16 e

[frozen pecan]

You are not supposed to taste it

[jovial kite]

I had 40 towers

[viscid helm]

Ye

[jovial kite]

Even our instructors bought from me

[solid nova]

Wait so

Are you meant to swallow or spit?

Take that how you will

[viscid helm]

Yeh same, our captain was buying from me lmao

[jovial kite]

???

no

[solid nova]

If it sits in your mouth

[jovial kite]

it shouldnt drip into ur mouth

[frozen pecan]

ye it triggered fluids and my gums started burning lul

[jovial kite]

it sits in your gum

[solid nova]

And just tastes of whatever flavour?

[frozen pecan]

salt

at least the ones I tried

[solid nova]

Surely like when you swallow the saliva it'll taste of stuff too?

[jovial kite]

yes but it isnt supposed to drip

[solid nova]

Educate me 😄

[jovial kite]

If it starts to drip i throw it away

[solid nova]

Right im with you now fam

[viscid helm]

Better do it right the first time

[jovial kite]

The flavour is there basically for marketing reasons, i mean you can taste it but ur not supposed to

[solid nova]

So how long is 1 pouch last? - literally googling this now 😂

Looks cheap asf in comparison to smoking

[jovial kite]

depends, 30 min to hour

[solid nova]

Oh its much cheaper then

[jovial kite]

And like

[frozen pecan]

So if you just leave it in your gum you don't taste it? That never worked for me

[jovial kite]

After 30-1 hour you dont need to use it again for another hour

Me atleast

Keep your filthy tongue in check nefy

[frozen pecan]

lul

[jovial kite]

Dont go poking the bag

[frozen pecan]

I didn't

[solid nova]

Like i can see theres plenty of options for shipping to uk etc. Wonder why it doesnt appear to be as big over here

I dont think i know many Swedes that dont use the stuff

[frozen pecan]

the spit in your mouth also transfers the flavour

[solid nova]

Well yeah thats what i was curious about

[frozen pecan]

It created so much saliva in my mouth dunno

[jovial kite]

I dont taste it at all

[sharp viper]

so it's just tobacco for oral use?

[jovial kite]

Pretty much

[sharp viper]

at least you don't get lung cancer

[valid plank]

it still give me the bock

[zealous dew]

ded cennel

I still have memories of great questions such as, do i need to use poisons as sin or is tb worth using ?

865 cos relic or 985 malc ?

[tight meteor]

can somone teach me how to play alacrity build

[viscid helm]

No

[tight meteor]

is that what you wanted shantal

[zealous dew]

sure, go to dalaran, respec, and go back to raid

[tight meteor]

LuL

[zealous dew]

ded again...

what's a cool discord server these days ?

something as toxic as this one used to be

[sharp viper]

i heard warlock discord is pretty dank

[frozen pecan]

where are all the regular toxics anyway? All muted? lul

[tight meteor]

asleep