let's go
#assassination
gaunt moat
gaunt moat
let's goooo
viscid helm
Ye the idiot prob played poe untill like 12am
dire spoke
good morning 
shrewd oriole
@gaunt moat I’m playing with kids
gaunt moat
🚔
solid nova
@gaunt moat Fried ice cream trip was a total fail. Took me 6 hours just to get through one side of London
Didnt stop for food 😦
gaunt moat
6 hours??
solid nova
Girlfriend thought it would be a good idea to drive
It was not.
So i suffered the traffic, she slept.
gaunt moat
and i thought driving in Tel-Aviv was bad
shrewd oriole
Wait Richard
You a London boy?
Poggers
@gaunt moat yeah I’m doing cas @ this local nursery that needed people lol finally back in England
gaunt moat
cas?
shrewd oriole
solid nova
@shrewd oriole I'm an Oxford boy
solid nova
Spiffing isn't it
gaunt moat
in here we were forced to do community service.
echo estuary
innit mate
shrewd oriole
I do it cuz I love spending time with kids
My mom owns a school so I grew up with stuff like this
Reminds me of home and looks great on my resume ahah
solid nova
Before I was qualified and stuff, 100% lied on my CV until i could put actual facts on it
No one will ever know
shrewd oriole
Oh yeah same
My UCAS personal statement
Was so exaggerated
I mean sure some of it was partially based on truth
solid nova
Always put my references "on request". Not once, were they requested.
shrewd oriole
Lmao
solid nova
5 years on, the CV has had its filthy lies washed away and rewritten
So unless any significant changes arrive, everyone's going to be sin in BFA it seems
gaunt moat
- there are significant changes
- what are you basing that on
viscid helm
Content is 8 months away
echo estuary
did i hear correct that assa is getting 8 sec silence 😵
viscid helm
solid nova
Basing it on what i've read in here 😂
dire spoke
wat
brazen forge
wait wtf is fried ice cream
rugged urchin
@sharp viper Just wondering if anyone has concrete info on who the cone targets. Is it just the first 2 mele that are excluded from targeting?
solid nova
You need to google it, I never knew until last week
brazen forge
fried ice cream sounds like an american thing
solid nova
Its like freeze fried
echo estuary
so does burger
solid nova
That kind of fried
brazen forge
dire spoke
lmao
brazen forge
Wait this actually looks so good
solid nova
@dire spoke Senpai clicker ❤
Yeah doesnt it? I attempted the journey to sample it
Quest failed ⛔
£17 for 2 hours parking 😒
echo estuary
are you a prius guy richard?
brazen forge
wtf that's expensive af
solid nova
@echo estuary Just a humble Renault driver
echo estuary
thats a step up at least :p
solid nova
Its a GT! It counts for something
solid nova
@brazen forge Yeah, no clue how people afford life in London
echo estuary
they move to east london 😮
solid nova
I drove from West - East and ended up in Shoreditch or something
brazen forge
hearing prices of london and stuff, makes me glad I live north 😄
solid nova
£17 for 2 hours, £34 for up to 4 beyond that
I live in Oxford and think thats a fucking rip off
Bad enough its over £6 a pint in some places
brazen forge
dire spoke
sup Richard
solid nova
Bonjour
shrewd oriole
My morning
quick ice
can you make food?
lone junco
@zealous dew are orbs "easy" for some comps? cause apparelty we cant pull more than 5x on orb week.
our arcane mage has to hard cast an arcane blast, warrior is "out of rage" and I am pumping fok/env into them right and left.
dire spoke
the problem with the orbs is that they don't get it by cleave
elemental shaman could be nice for it
kindred forge
Get hunter
lone junco
I ran on my hpal, and between Shock/judge/CS they are irrelevant
really a lol difference.
prot pally cant hit them with Shield thro or hammer only judge or shield slam
honest swift
Someone explain to me why you use Kingsbane in opener AFTER Toxic Blades? To me it would make sense to use Kingsbane before toxic blades, because kingsbane deals more in the end, and toxic blades is shorter than kingsbane
why is this not the case? 🤔
lone junco
@honest swift we use it BEFORE because in shoulder crit, the Tb Buffs the melee hits from kb.
that opener is tight BECAUSE you get 2 shoulder windows, 1 8sec TB and a KB.
If you want the TB in shoulder, you need it stacked this way
lone junco
the TB hit is strong, the KB hit is ok, but when it all crits, is best
honest swift
so out of mantle window it makes sense to use TB during the last 9 seconds of KB though?
if you are not holding TB for too long that is
lone junco
and delaying the TB at the open that long is almost guaranteed to lose a cast over the duration of the fight, and that alone is 1-3m
no
it is in the guide.
just use the TB. dont delay more than 5 sec.
TB actually does damage. its not just a buff
missing out on hits for fight duration is pure damage loss to begin with.
honest swift
you say "delaying the TB at the open THAT LONG" but I only mean one global CD later. is it really that big deal in opener?
dire spoke
do m+ orbs actually get hit by PB?
lone junco
kb ....................................... Tb is ok for the KB only. but it puts the tb out of crit. and only buff the KB tail, and doesnt buff the 3 env during the shoulder
@dire spoke doubt it. but they proc pb, so I just hammer them with env.
sucks for a fok and env. but it is what it is
dire spoke
yeah it's weird
lone junco
@honest swift use this
honest swift
It all makes sense what you say and I believe you, and I use this opener, but I was just wondering why you use TB KB and not the other way
lone junco
KB is 2handed. it hits pretty hard. TB buffs it.
its just not a gain to delay the TB to clip the tail of KB for the whole fight.
when tb lines up in the middle of a KB, so that you cant TB/KB, then you delay a few sec to catch the tail.
dire spoke
I should nibble earlier
honest swift
and you said that if you KB and then TB, you dont get TB in your mantle window, but I just tried it on a puppet and either way, TB or KB is your last GCD in the mantle window (5th one) so that TB does not crit isnt really true?
sorry I played Sub for the last two raids. im just trying to understand :X
i dont like just eating up all the facts I get. I want to understand
lone junco
yes. TB is 8 sec, your right
honest swift
i mean "buff" duration I guess
dire spoke
ye
honest swift
thanks I get it now
lone junco
but you really want it at the shoulder bracer not the midblock vanish
@honest swift there are just a lot of things going on there. you need the env uptime for kb, you need the tb to buff the envs after the vanish. you need rupture up. this is just how it lays out.
and if you KBTB the tb is just buffing the envs.
honest swift
yeah that screenshot really showed theres alot going on at the same time. if you had shown the same screenshot with TB KB, things would be out of place.
and I forgot that KB application does dmg too 😄
dire spoke
didn't know you own one
shrewd oriole
Several
dire spoke
yeah
shrewd oriole
Long term investments dude
dire spoke
cba with buying 10 watermelons every week
dire spoke
shrewd oriole
dire spoke
looks like a notter
solid nova
Looks like heston blumenthal
solid nova
Is he 10/10
shrewd oriole
Notter looks like he could play in a heavy metal band
solid nova
On a scale of 1- @shrewd oriole , where does he fall?
shrewd oriole
That’s all I’m gonna say
lone junco
yeah, he has tats
zealous dew
Hpal
shrewd oriole
Don’t ping him I leaked pic
shrewd oriole
Public enemy supreme collab 
midnight latch
of him working out
solid nova
This is how i now picture Notter
junior hinge
Hey guys. Been super lucky and got shoulders / boots as my first 2 Leggos in assassination. Do I bother getting any more and change lootspec to Outlaw? 3rd Leggo I have is sub bracers and I don't count the argus one.
midnight latch
shrewd oriole
@junior hinge get bracers for assa
solid nova
@junior hinge You'll want bracers too mate
shrewd oriole
Outlaw sucks 
solid nova
Execute phase with bracers is 💦
shrewd oriole
@dire spoke heroic?
junior hinge
Yeah OK cheers.
dire spoke
yeah
shrewd oriole
I’ll form up a group now then I guess
viscid helm
solid nova
So what you're telling me is
dire spoke
@shrewd oriole pull ten twink raid 
frozen pecan
so its going to sound like limp bizkit or linkin park lul
sharp viper
tom, do you pull out at 10?
shrewd oriole
Mate
Have you seen my guild name
Pull ten
You think that shit is a coincidence?
sharp viper
hence my question
shrewd oriole
😉
sharp viper
your gf must know what's coming (haHAA) once you start the countdown
gaunt moat
@sharp viper me and tom playing in an hour +- if you wanna join
dire spoke
tom betrayed me 
strange python
Miss me with that gay shit
shrewd oriole
If yo man don’t help around the house
strange python
Tab into this in class and see a pic of 2 shirtless guys.
shrewd oriole
Is yo man really yo man
strange python
gaunt moat
how about you shop instead of hang on discord?
strange python
Soy milk for protein shakes, tho?
gaunt moat
hurry up soy boi
shrewd oriole
Of course
strange python
🤢
strange python
Don't like the taste when you mix with protein powder.
dire spoke
you can drink my protein milk anytime
shrewd oriole
You telling me you ain’t used to chugging nasty white shit down your mouth?
strange python
You don't have enough to supply me, Zempai.
shrewd oriole
Who’s the gay one here
dire spoke
gaunt moat
@shrewd oriole stfu and finish your grocery already.
midnight latch
dire spoke
YA'LL TONIC
gaunt moat
this must be a naya imposter cause i heard naya quit
gaunt moat
no on cares.
midnight latch
@gaunt moat your mom quit on me last night
midnight latch
gaunt moat
wow, and she'd be with anyone naya..
dire spoke
how I imagine notter's mom now http://img.pr0gramm.com/2018/03/12/ddc2daa802c52c58.jpg
solid nova
Jesus
midnight latch
hands out carrots to everyone
shrewd oriole
solid nova
@shrewd oriole You enjoy your healthy food
Im going to McDonalds for lunch
Lemme try and get fat
solid nova
Not close to work unfortunately
shrewd oriole
Attending classes?
strange python
Yeah bruvv
shrewd oriole
What is this, high school ?
solid nova
If KFC was near, id be there
valid plank
to bad toms short af
solid nova
Spill details
strange python
Manlets 
solid nova
Girlfriends Croatian so everyones like 185+ or something stupid
valid plank
well the more muscular a short person gets it just makes them look even shorter
solid nova
Im like 175 😂
shrewd oriole
@high obsidian#7538 not true
sharp viper
it's true, short* bodybuilders get the stump look
solid nova
Dont become an irl thumb tom 😦
valid plank
and since the start 3 years ago to now he's gotten more swole but honestly looks like he's shrunk
dire spoke
lmao
shrewd oriole
Rip
strange python
@shrewd oriole where you from
shrewd oriole
Portugal
solid nova
Ronaldo land
strange python
valid plank
tom didn't stand a chance from birth lmao
strange python
Our women are taller than you guys.
solid nova
Short but swole, or to combine the words together
sharp viper
short guys have it easier to motorboat while standing
solid nova
Swole
shrewd oriole
my hair isnt typical portuguese hair
strange python
I only see nipps in his pic.
solid nova
Shwole*
dire spoke
ORLY
shrewd oriole
@strange python it's just really curly
valid plank
who would win, Tom or a hand on the head?
strange python
lmao
shrewd oriole
my dad is black and I inherited his dick his nose and his hair
solid nova
😂
sharp viper
"Son, you are of age now to receive my family jewels"
midnight latch
I have a dude at my gym who is a tall as he is wide
like really trained
but he is like what? 1.5meters
midnight latch
he is nicknamed the fence
valid plank
so he ends up 1.5m
valid plank
read above
strange python
Classic black dad pullin the old ''gonna get some cigs'' card.
gaunt moat
i measure people by radius not by height
zealous dew
@lone junco hpal, dh, bm hunter are pretty good for orbs
i mouseover env them to proc bombs on packs
main blaze
An interesting idea for pb would be increased proc chance based on health
tacit bay
in what way is that interesting?
midnight latch
I had 8 pb procs on the first 30secs of vari last night
we wiped 
12.6million pull dps
in the bin
dire spoke
@midnight latch I know dat feel https://snag.gy/9ApMvr.jpg
midnight latch
@dire spoke
lone junco
@zealous dew I remember outlaw being really good at orbs, but outlaw is not good overall
fervent beacon
Outlaw is the easiest spec to play with the orbs, but if you go with snd route, it's pretty straight forward and easy to maintain high dps
zealous dew
never seen an outlaw rogue in m+
solid nova
^
zealous dew
sorry
zealous dew
but yeah might be good
echo crest
Me too void
midnight latch
I see OL spec
I kick
fervent beacon
Rude
midnight latch
lone junco
when i ran it recently, the aoe was good constant pressure, but by no means, burst aoe like our ret or arcane or lock.
or shoulder bombs.
fervent beacon
But might save yourself the embarrassment of getting your ass kicked @midnight latch
solid nova
Woah
echo estuary
@fervent beacon what is a toxic person?
shrewd oriole
"ol"
midnight latch
@fervent beacon you are onto something
shrewd oriole
declined
solid nova
Revised
shrewd oriole
is that really true when you're OL tho lmao
lone junco
@zealous dew tbh, my cleave just isnt comparable even as shoulder bracer. and since we pull in 3-5 anyway, ill just stick to exang for a few. see how it goes. The Ep ruptures on 3 is always great. and to vendetta exang the prio add every pull is pretty nice.
fervent beacon
lone junco
i just want some +1s. get up to 20s. we are def not an ideal comp
fervent beacon
but i recently start playing sub for + again
solid nova
My man
shrewd oriole
you shouldnt really top as rogue
unless your group aint great
either in skill or in comp
lone junco
im almost always top overall, but our pulls arent big enough for me to pray for bombs.
fervent beacon
or perhaps, I'm just really really good. Just like how Trump is really really good at making the trade deal
lone junco
I would prob be better with a carried NS rupture, mut rupture mut rupture. fok env spams.
fervent beacon
Doing demon soul early in the morning to get gems
Well, at least I should be done by next week to get my 3 expans old leggo
solid nova
Have you eaten yet tho
fervent beacon
Oatmeal and coffee, prework soon to do my chest
dire spoke
Yeah I still had bread n stuff, but I'm to lazy rn to go outside buy shit
solid nova
I went with large 5 piece chicken select, large fries and mozzarella dippers and a coke
Best decision all day
fervent beacon
I did my protein powder in my coffee before, also would not recommend
solid nova
It sounds like a good idea at the time, doubling up
But after feeling like i could lift a house, i crashed hard after
Never again 😂
solid nova
Might have a tolerance for it
fervent beacon
Would have to since I drink like 4-5 coffees a day
calm grail
Sometimes I will blend protein powder with iced coffee, and it makes it like a shake
lone junco
@zealous dew are there any dungeons like BRH or what not, where you rather just keep kiting shit instead of killing orbs?
zealous dew
I trust no one pugging
😃
but UK might be one
or if you los all the orbs by running pylons
around*
sometimes you see streams of top players being cocky pulling 2-3 packs, not getting the orbs and depleting the key
lone junco
nice
we have such an awk comp. restoshm. bear tank. arcane mage. sin. ret
thats our very best. when we sub in, it just turns to a shit show.
fervent beacon
arcane mage 🤔
viscid helm
@gaunt moat Stop
lone junco
He bursts aoe near 20M
but has to be in melee.
and arcane has one of the best 20sec ST dps dumps.
solid nova
I played Prot Warrior/H Pally/ DK, Sub, Arcane mage and we had no issues
Is it more an issue of people not being able to target them or?
lone junco
hpal is really good at orbs. resto shm apparently isnt
I was on my pally in a 14 yesterday, and it made me lol. Judge shock cs shock repeat
solid nova
Yeah, myself, and the dk could swap with little downtime on overal
Just let the mage do his arcane explosion spam
gaunt moat
@viscid helm ?
lone junco
its def humbling when other classes mash the AoE.
solid nova
Helps that warrior shield slam 1 shots too
Bear Mangle might be able to do it as well
lone junco
I just fok env the orbs, but thats a lot comparatively to some using a cheap builder on it.
solid nova
Did you have a look into the details and see damage done to orbs to see if anyone was neglecting them?
lone junco
bear does well. he was out last group. Protpal/rsham/rog/warrior/arcane. arms just complained about rage the whole time. prot cant shield throw or hammer. so its judge or shield slam.
kept us pulling 3 -5 max.
solid nova
Prot pal should be able to do it, not sure why the warrior is complaining
Rather lose some overall dps than wipe 🤷🏼
lone junco
same.
solid nova
My warrior is fine with them, think he just wants to pad
lone junco
he is a clicker and plays from 20' away from a tv. i think there are targeting issues.
👀
dire spoke
👀 did I hear clicker
lone junco
any clicker that beats me is fine.
solid nova
And we didnt pull too much less than normal
lone junco
i get angry when they die like bitches though.
solid nova
We pulled big packs because of the AoE we had and after my aoe dfa combo i'd commit fully to orbs
Worked a charm
People just need to sacrifice their dps ego for the mechanics tbh
strange python
What fight??
solid nova
M+ explosive orbs mate
strange python
Oh, ty
solid nova
@lofty prawn If you cloaked, pally bubbled and mage blocked with a spirit link totem down
Would you be able to survive tones or orbs exploding at once?
Because the average hp wouldnt be 0 😄
steep obsidian
spirit link is pretty op for that yeh
steep obsidian
the lego healer trinket is pretty good for when you cloak too because all the overhealing on you goes to others
solid nova
Dont usually run with a shaman
steep obsidian
they kinda suck :\
i do sometimes and on grievous weeks they really struggle
oh hey my cd just gave everyone stacks of grievious so i cant use it
lone junco
@solid nova prob is. that we would need the aoe to kill all trash before the 2nd round of orbs.
i dont think we do
solid nova
What level was this? I forgot to ask
steep obsidian
yeh all the healers are pretty good at m+ cept shamangs
but at 18 its not really THAT bad
lone junco
my hpal with T21 will prob crush a 12M flash into BoV.
solid nova
Nah i thought it was fine, didnt have any issues
lone junco
we avg 14-16 keys. 18 is a strugle.
solid nova
Highest this week is 21 VoW
lone junco
goal is 20s across the board, but I doubt Ill make it there without a comp revision.,
solid nova
That was aids
Yeah theres a few i dont have 20s in
I mean there will be easier affixes for your comp at some point
strange python
Like some ppl having all dungeobs 20+ in farm week affixes
astral sundial
question: outside of KB or TB, do I overwrite SoT to get evenom buff? do I overwrite evenom to get SoT? what about during vendeta?
hoary copper
I forgot how much I hate healing m+ until explosive or grievous weaks
lone junco
explosive on hpal = judge / shock / cs repeat
BoV still makes me lol
one crit shock and BING full group
steep obsidian
my resto druid friend manages to do a fair bit of damage to fel orbs
steep obsidian
he does some thing in bear form with moonfire and always pulls agro but does ok damage with it
heh
hoary copper
I mean its easy but healers shouldnt be doing all of the explosives. Sometimes when there's 4 and those suckers are a pita to target tho
hshock one shots them at least, havent gotten a judgement on one
lone junco
for me at 14. all 3 skills 1shot
I use judge on cd for my ring, and use CS back to back to push shock back around when group is full.
plus killing orbs is effective heal imo 😉
hoary copper
eh doing lower was aids with me trying to keep peope alive and them ignoring orbs
didnt help I was a little rusty
astral sundial
hmm not sure if my question got lost in the chatter or just bad time to ask 😃
hoary copper
You dont have to worry about envenom or SoT buffs generally or clipping
lone junco
@astral sundial Env is important during KB. SoT is important at the tail of kb. SoT is up during ENV, so just clip envs and dont stress sot.
steep obsidian
envenom pandemics so its a bit eaiser to manage then sot
lone junco
try to get rupture up before KB, so you can focus on 100
astral sundial
didn't know envenom pandemics, at what times?
astral sundial
of the new cast, right?
lone junco
no
hoary copper
of the buff
astral sundial
thanks 😃
dire spoke
you will get 8s
warm parcel
30% of the new aura
echo estuary
I thought pandemic was pruned with leg cus hurr durr gaem too hard for casuals
astral sundial
hmm conflicting info here :X
lone junco
a 1cp rupture will add 2 sec to a new 6cp rupture
just keep 100% uptime on your env during kb.
pandemic clipping is from one to the next. not back to back to back.
astral sundial
and not SoT?
lone junco
ignore sot until you are getting orange parses imo
what ilvl are you?
some times people get all worked up over stuff when they dont have 4p21 and are still 925
astral sundial
955, but I did get some good pharses for my IL (also don't have argus trinket yet 😦 )
lone junco
post a log if you have q.s
astral sundial
^^
valid plank
you aim for 90%+ SoT uptime, same for envenom but 100% during KB and TB? i think
somber bison
Just focus on procing pbs, forget about this pandemic env sot nonsense
astral sundial
so I should cast TB first? I thought I want it in after KB starts to tick
also not sure what you are showing me in the graph
echo estuary
Is that a sad face on the last screenshot bottom left quadrant?
lone junco
opener is TB then KB
Sad face is env uptime
There are gaps all over your kb uptime
slow down and clip your envs
during kb
your parse was carried by pb, but thats the gamble.
missed 2 or so TB. prob just mechanic timing
astral sundial
I had some bad KB due to soaking - but should I be having higher envenom uptime? earlier someone said I Sohuldn't care about it outsie of KB
echo estuary
I dont get the point of this, glad i dont do dragonslaying seems way too tryhard
lone junco
@astral sundial look at that vanish cd. you kb and tb (even if they are backwards) then hammered out the 3 env. prior to the vanish
you had 2 choices. hammer the vend, and delay the tb a few sec for the vanish, or push that vanish to the nexxt vendetta
and use bracers not boots.
lone junco
😃
at 957, and this pb open, you could easily push to 1.9
so there are a few take aways.
this one is better, but missing kb due to timing.
echo estuary
Why u have all those screenshots lad
lone junco
take away.
100% env uptime during Kb.
TB then KB when they are close
use your vanish carefully, dont use burn on cd without vendetta and TB alignment.
use Bracer over boot.
@echo estuary are you done?
solid nova
Your sub rogues opener is making me sad 😦
steep obsidian
you arent allowed to be helpful noobe only toxic snark allowed here
hoary copper
hmm do I transfer for this guild and hope its a match or do I hold out? hmm...I did normal with them and they seemed pretty good people but they wouldnt let me do heroic till I transferred to them. They are also just starting mythic so idk. Just dont wanna spend money I dont have if it wont be a fit
astral sundial
sorry was in lfr for a minute
lone junco
np.
astral sundial
got my boots and bracers two days ago
lone junco
lots of good stuff in that log, just a few things will help
astral sundial
was surprised raidbot told me to use boots over bracers
lone junco
shoulder/bracer if you are poison
spare cosmos
I’ve always been under the impression that you should use TB on the last 9 seconds of KB. Is this not the case?
lone junco
if it is less than 1% diff, and your raid dps is shit.
then use bracer
Raidbots doesnt know that you are carrying a bunch of sandbags.
@spare cosmos read the guide
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
steep obsidian
@astral sundial your relic traits kinda blow rupture crit is 🤢
could prolly take huge ilvl hit and sim higher
steep obsidian
yeh
solar fog
Only killed mythic garothi once and with shit parse, feelsgoodman
steep obsidian
i lost like 10 ilvls on my weapon going 7 malch and 7 master assass but it does a lot better
then what i had prev
traits are so frustrating to farm :\
not much fun
halcyon pumice
are vendetta traits worth as much as crucibleweights says they are? thought i read somewhere that it heavily overvalues them
astral sundial
hmm if raid dps is low shouldn't boots be better then mantle then? maybe I just enojoyed the boots too much : /
steep obsidian
if you don't have ma relics it makes your cooldowns line up pretty badly without boots
hoary copper
meh
lone junco
I play bracer boots, for reasons, but Bracers are huge in extended execute phases.
aka when you have a ton of dead people or shitter dps
steep obsidian
yeh my top immonar is when someone blew up most of the raid on the final bridge
cant come close to it
in more gaer
reef hatch
Quick question, do I still wanna fish for boots when I already have shoulders and bracers? Trying to get some sub leggos for m+
lone junco
Shoulders and boots both work around fight ranges. I was really surprised to see 3 vanishes on that garothi, but long ass fights get more.
fish?
reef hatch
Try to get*
solid nova
@astral sundial Your sub rogues making a lot of mistakes too. Has shoulders and gloves but doesnt vanish until 2 minutes into the fight and constantly is messing up his DFA combo
steep obsidian
do you have the cloak and vigor ring already?
solid nova
Wasted a shadow blades cooldown too, only used it once
steep obsidian
coz both of those work fine for sub
reef hatch
I have cloak but no vigor ring. I did get sub boots though
steep obsidian
sub boots are kinda useless for m+
dire spoke
lol wow
astral sundial
thanks richard but i am new in the guild and she's a semi raidleader and probably wouldn't like my advice :X
solid nova
Literally, if you want to butcher sub, shes doing a fantastic job of it lol
astral sundial
noobe not sure what you mean - I thought on longer fights the vanish means less and less
even if you get to vanish alot
echo estuary
Doesnt matter all she has to do is show tits to guild leader time to time and shes a starter xd
astral sundial
cuz we didn't get enough ppl for mythic 😃
solid nova
Damn fam
astral sundial
also we raid preaty relaxed, I came back to play only 6 weeks ago and those guys took me at IL 850 to heroic argus
just cuz they were nice
hoary copper
Yet I cant even get a group for H Argus -.-
solid nova
I mean, that is really nice of them
solid nova
Personally, if you're raiding mythic, you should at least have correct enchants
astral sundial
this guy is not part of our raiding team
hoary copper
People that wanted me to go to their guild want me to transfer without really trying the guild before doing heroic. I got to do normal but idk. transferring is money I dont have a lot of extra of.
astral sundial
just a social we puged in, and at least he got all tacts well
solid nova
Yeah they sound like a decent bunch
Just not too raid savvy
Literally just noticed you got a 970 lock too
All the gear but no idea fam
dire spoke
solid nova
Like, I think its great you're actively looking to improve, and for first (?) kill you performed well mate
dire spoke
could do this all day long man
solid nova
But other raiders are the bigger issues imo
hoary copper
Thats a lot of grey parses
solid nova
@hoary copper Gotta at least run a HC clear with them first to be sure?
hoary copper
Yea thats what I wanted to do, but I have to transfer for them to take me
solid nova
Its pretty expensive now imo to xfer
lone junco
@dire spoke 🙏
solid nova
Gotta be worth it
lone junco
lovely mark
hoary copper
they're just starting mythic
solid nova
@dire spoke Count the vanish casts. Just. Count them.
echo estuary
Aren't guilds obsolete now that you can queue/raid from bnet and x realm
hoary copper
You cant cross realm mythic, the others you can
echo estuary
Ah
solid nova
She wasted SoD CDs too
dire spoke
@solid nova yeah I saw the opener 
hoary copper
That monk was 968 doing 1.1m dps o.O
solid nova
So much gear
echo estuary
Thats a massive middle finger from blizzard then
solid nova
With such little numbers
hoary copper
nvm he died
astral sundial
monk actually pulling good numbers if you look at the wipes
dire spoke
lone junco
I thought that was a cold vanish SS
dire spoke
that sub doesn't know shit about the class
lone junco
made me almost barf
hoary copper
Heals look good at least
echo estuary
99% thats pretty good right
spare cosmos
Yeah, it’s really impressive
solid nova
The 2 least geared raiders, are topping the damage
With nearly a 400k dps margin
How.
spare cosmos
They don’t carry the burden of gear
echo estuary
When i did LFR i had the habit to alt tab alot maybe theyre doing it too
echo estuary
Ya gotta check fistbook you know
dire spoke
echo estuary
Check tinder real quick could also be the culprit keepo
spare cosmos
Grindr* FTFY
astral sundial
we went thru this ^^
solid nova
Subbed in so they could raid in the first place
Missing enchants too on several players
dire spoke
ez
solid nova
T20 4 set on sub rogue
dire spoke
no, can't be
dire spoke
TOMM?
echo estuary
As long as they promulgate to be a casual guild i see no issue with not tryharding xd
dire spoke
no
astral sundial
what was the quick rupture refresh?
lone junco
Oh/
astral sundial
you posted "v" there
dire spoke
how much crit is he running?
astral sundial
so he aims for SoT uptime over envenom as far as I can see?
lone junco
that was him ruptureing the hands
astral sundial
ho makes sense
lone junco
dont worry about sot.
astral sundial
fine fine XD
lone junco
It just happends with env and rupture
spare cloud
You get sot uptime by evenom anyway
spare cloud
Oh okay
astral sundial
if I just track evenom
dire spoke
this have to be a lot of 4cp mut
spare cloud
I mean you kinda cast them every 6 seconds for evenom uptime
astral sundial
also no way I am getting 2p4p : /
ye but then you lsoe surge for 1 second each time - and this guy had higher surge uptime then envenom
spare cloud
Cuz rupture
astral sundial
doesn't explain this diffrence
spare cloud
You only drop evenom uptime when you use rupture
Most of the time
And that doesnt lose you sot
dire spoke
rupture buffs you sot aswell
astral sundial
ye ofc but
if your envenom last 6-8 seconds
you will still have higher envenom uptime if I follow what you guys are saying
cuz you don't cast rupture THAT much
astral sundial
assuming you don't overlap for some reason : /
astral sundial
the surge? cuz you said don't track it XD
dire spoke
yeah me too, esp for KB because it modifies it's base ticking
spare cloud
Also you can make use of the evenom pandemic window for higher sot uptime
But thats not really timeable because its more important to have the right uptimes when it matters
So you end up delaying in some cases
spare cloud
Depends on boss
If you have target switches and stuff you kinda lose evenom uptime for that
Cuz you have to dot first
And stuff like that
spare cloud
In a 5 min fight those 5 seconda are almost 2 percent uptime already
lone junco
the SoT really matters at the last 2 or 3 ticks. you dont need to clip so tightly that you leave a gap.
just hit env at 4/5 and youll be ok
spare cloud
Yeah, i wasnt there wenn the log was postet was just talking about the thing with sot vs ev uptime
Cuz someone asked
astral sundial
what other stuff would you suggest to work on?
lone junco
astral sundial
ye vanish is hard for me for some reason ><
spare cloud
If you come into the situation where your rupture is running out and kb has like 5 seconds left you can rupture as well
Because sot
But only if like you would dropt rupture for like 5 seconds otherwise
dire spoke
that's what a "lucky on CP" looks like for me https://snag.gy/25Jn3E.jpg
I feel like it's barely impossible with 33% to do it better
dire spoke
not well planned with rupture I guess
lone junco
@dire spoke you dont really need Env at a KB tail, but SoT. if we are nitpicking
so 😦 looks ok
env adds stacks, but for that last tick you want SoT.
dire spoke
yeah
for me it's just, if my rotation is stressed at some point I mostly get 2CP mut
and I'm all like kbye ty
spare cloud
Dude i was on the verge of madness when i was stuck with 22% crit and no bb
dire spoke
stuff like rupture > kb > (env dropping) garrote > mut > mut > env
yeah mate slow spec + shitty CP is like
wheelchair with square wheels
warm parcel
And one missing
warm parcel
Squarechair?
spare cloud
Or just a chair
dire spoke
I want to live the meme dream but not going to happen this expac
it would make my clicking so much easier
lone junco
@spare cloud 22 crit is bonkers slow
spare cloud
No its fun
dire spoke
you just play outlaw at that point
spare cloud
Yeah 220 % mastery outlaw
lone junco
My sub mastery is like 140%
warm parcel
Ol mastery is now scaling dmg not proc rate in bfa
lone junco
GOOOOD
warm parcel
So it might actually be meaningful
dire spoke
oh look otl just got PB
lone junco
dfa mastery gloves
turbid harbor
gooch does proc blade flurry
worthy marten
which opening are the best right now for assasination?
dire spoke
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
worthy marten
ty
lone junco
not this one
dire spoke
ahahah
lone junco
this is a really good one for shoulders
past carbon
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/h6rkcdB4v1t2zpFV/#fight=34 can someone help me get better please
i have decent gear need help getting better logs PM me please with advice thanks
dire spoke
LOG RANT DAY
spare cloud
Im on phone cant look at logs 
sharp viper
you could but it's just tedious
gaunt moat
Me looking at all these logs
https://scontent.fsdv2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29177224_10215819447348335_1828576888843403264_n.jpg?oh=c153b5d18fdce029ad461cd3615bf2d0&oe=5B383214
spare cloud
Notter changing color more often than a chameleon
lone junco
I guess you decided to TB an add?
@past carbon Shoulder vanish Must be aligned with vendetta. you gapped 2 of them
by delaying that 2nd you would lose the 3rd, but neither did any damage, so just delay
and in that case you can delay the vanish again, and push it to the bracer window.
dire spoke
dire spoke
you lost super much damage with your TB KB alignment
past carbon
yeah im pretty noob
lone junco
That one 1 TB went on an add i think
the vendetta /tb vanish in bracer will push you up like 100k dps prob
sharp viper
@past carbon your garrote and rupture uptimes are too low, don't ever cast toxic blade on the varimathras adds if you care about your dps.
2nd kingsbane and you delayed your tb and used it on the add
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/h6rkcdB4v1t2zpFV/#fight=34&type=auras&by=target&pins=0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-cast%240%240.0.0.Any%24113853012.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24245389^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-cast%240%240.0.0.Any%24113853012.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24192759^0%24Separate%24%23a04D8A%24auras-cast%240%240.0.0.Any%24113853012.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24235027^0%24Separate%24%23DF5353%24auras-cast%240%240.0.0.Any%24113853012.0.0.Rogue%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%2479140&source=5&spells=debuffs
past carbon
alright i see
dire spoke
nah, one is missing and then it was random desync
past carbon
so time the vandetta with the vanish more
spare cloud
Super much 
german coming through
past carbon
what is tb sorry?
spare cloud
Toxic blade
past carbon
ah
sharp viper
toxic blade
dire spoke
tonic blater
lone junco
@sharp viper look at all these fine graphs coming out 👍
spare cloud
If not read it
lone junco
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
spare cloud
Its veri gud and written by a bunny
spare cloud
Slowpoke
hoary copper
Did Flowi posses Zempai?
lone junco
wish snippy had a line tool or rectangles. My doodles are a bit wonky
sharp viper
i don't have my keybinds setup properly, zempai is just faster clicking 😦
lone junco
nah. flowi doesnt help or review logs.
sharp viper
flowi's advice is to spec alacrity 🤔
dire spoke
but it helps them to feel bad
spare cloud
Lol
sharp viper
it helps them show the decrepancy between their real damage and their potential damage
hoary copper
Unless they are gearing for haste
sharp viper
and following that, yeah, makes them feel bad
spare cloud
What im 974 and i barely sim more
lone junco
thats with 16 users too.
spare cloud
Idk how to sim
sharp viper
@spare cloud what?
lone junco
my 957 at 2.08. guess my expectations are skew
strange python
bleed sims fucking low for me 😦
halcyon pumice
i'm 1.6m at ~950 but also have no tier and bad leggos so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
warm geode
someone have the string top make the numbers change color of a track aura for pandemic( garrote/rupture ) ?
sharp viper
lone junco
spare cloud
See
dire spoke
wait you are toph?
sharp viper
16 pantheon trinkets noobe
dire spoke
REEEE
lone junco
and alac
spare cloud
Lol
dire spoke
I thought you're mizu
warm parcel
:alac:
lone junco
ZOOOM
sharp viper
toph confirmed alacrity user
lone junco
you do it
sharp viper
my sim is with 0 pantheon trinkets