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Hey its my first time on a rogue, am i correct to undrestand that the bleed build + subterfuge is the preferred setup for m+ (without any specific legendries)? I dont see any clear distinction in guides/videos so im not sure if both poison and bleed are viable in m+.
The mountain Alpha.
2handed Jamie Alpha.
in the reference of GoT survival is what defines everything
@strange python afaik you should go poisons for M+ for stronger aoe (Assuming 4tp)
bleed is not best for aoe. just poison bombs. they scale better with stacked mastery and MP
Thanks you both for the answer. No 4TP atm but i'll take note of that
I've sure seen things melt when the bomb procs
I do both, and bleed does well when stuff lives long enough. but thats because your group is shit.
and shoulders are just absurd for rogue restealth
speaking of m+...i still need to do a million
oh 1 hand jamie is alpha too noobe
Ye for sure, just saw the BfA talent that's replacing it, feels bad.
youll see
not there yet. hes still kindof a bitch. BUT he did just shit on his sister.
i listen at the grocery store. surrounded by moms. and i was like OOOOOOOO Shiiit
laughed out loud with a HA! when Tywin died.

tywin was probably the best character
RL removed my DH from the group for dying to the reach. ironic part is RL also died to rend. so now im joining the group on my rogue to fuck shit up
Ive devoured books with Audible.
mean motherfucker
its an evil plan
the 3rd or so was a piece of shit.
but his arrogance and mistreatment of tyrion was his undoing
i totally dont care about the seastone line
apparently they ripped them out of the show.
wish euron wasnt raped in the show 😦
worst part about the audio, the reader changes voices between books, and its jarring
seastone line?
best lines,
Tyrion > Daenerys > jonsnow=arya > Jamie. rest are disposable.
well. post wedding.
daenerys 
I saw clips of her riding a dragon. i guess it is the build up.
daenerys in the show is really really really jarring
subterfuge over shadow stalker all day is that correct?
nope
i've heard of doing shadow stalker and rupture but i've also heard that envenom out of stealth does more damage
@warm parcel there are hours of content on the "Seastone chair" and who should be leader of the iron islands.
Tyrion book is pretty fuckin badass, Tyrion tv show not as much
i just cba. my eyes cross, and i almost fall asleep
So the iron islands arc
money means nothing, save the iron price
they're basically vikings
i assumed finger dance was basically russian roulette
or the knives between the fingers, some lose
yeah except you throw other ppl at with the axe
that was not clear to me in the book
some times i need clarirification.
you gotta leap over the axe or catch it
props to Martin for writing the history and having it stick.
so huge.
what a big fucking nerd.
👌
both literally and metaphorically
I'm legit afraid we wont get an ending
cuz the guy dies of a heart attack

prob true.
i wonder if theyd get someone to finish it if he did
like what happened when Robert Jordan died
is the wrist leggo supose to sim a bit lower than boots?
@placid snow paired with shoulders?
@placid snow it can depending on your gear, relics and offset pieces on those slots
yes paired with shoulders
like if you have shitty bracers but good boots in those slots
and vice versa
those combos are gonna sim better
will the execute bonus be more or will boots be better if it sims higher?
it's not alot difrence tho only 0,03mil dps
It's completely situational to be honest
if you ever find yourself having to delay vendetta boots lose a lot
if you have a bunch of warriors and spriests and lust during execute phase bracers lose a lot
¯_(ツ)_/¯
well you get my point
spriest dps lul
maybe not the best example
what would you recommend on immonar mythic progres?
bracers
Aren’t you
yeah the bridge phase downtimes probalby going to be weird with boots although I guess you could spam fok
boots being good assumes you will use vendetta on cd
yep
which might fuck you on bridge
i dunno how the timers work and i guess it depends on yer deeps
If you’re still progressing imonar I can see how your bridges might take long
Fair point victor
Fair point
i sorta like boots on kinga but not much else
At this point our bridges are so short that I could easily play boots
DH tank alt that we bring in just for imonar
Poggers
my guild and I suck so bridge still takes a long time XD
its ok to be casual here,not everybody can be tom
sub 35 prolly gonna last a while if your guild sucks at the fight and have a lot of people dead
weak gone all russian strat
♿
nniceeeeee
rank 3 guild raider btw
come tomb
u have a dps spot for tomb?
@jovial kite now jack?
Hey again, I had issue figuring it through simulcraft so trying to ask again: anyone got rough estimate for a breakpoints on mantle uptime? would you use it on a 4 minutes fight, 7 minutes etc.
yes
@astral sundial depends on the amount of mass relics
I don't decide whether or not to use mantle depending on fight length
At 7 mass, the optimal duration is in intervals of two
- vendetta
So 2:20, 4:20
So on
Add 20 seconds
so terrible 😄
Fair
with 5 it's a gain to fok at 3 cp tho
sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but I shouldn't use vanish at all outside of vendeta?
yes, vanish is the only cd we hold
If the boss is gonna die and you have vanish up and your vendetta won’t be up before the boss dies, use it
But besides that specific scenario not really
hmm any way to estimate how much vendetta CD my boots would reduce?
can I check it via raidbot or should I do the whole thing in simcraft?
I think it’s like 15 seconds but I can be way off tbh so just check
u can check in raidbots
Or try it for yourself
it says interval is 53.89sec oO - so if my actualy CD is 87, that means 33 seconds reduced? that seems a bit insane.
*actual
counts relics too ofc
hello boys 
hey friend
hello jhon 
Another don impersonator
😛
Jhon Dose
stream
no
when is stream starting
idk
soon
tm
within the next 20 minutes if at all
trying to check if I can be benched
what leggos you running with alac?
oh boy
are you not happy to be back raiding again?
xD
big log dick
Tom, you let me down for poe
how so
mi mi mi
when vermintide 2 session..
FUCK
FUCK
I'M IN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@gaunt moat sell me on that game and I'll play it
it's left 4 dead with 5 different classes, each has 3 specs, and multiple weapons you can craft / achieve. (with different rarity levels)
you need very good part cooperation and it's pretty intense
and you fight giant rats
25$ i think? the price was in my local currency so i dunno

iwin also got it
vermintide is godtier
despots don't approve.
but you can have your stream linked to your discord profile and just say you're streaming
just link on poe
stream coming up
I approve of self promotion btw
i'll let fiery demise know
👆🏻
I mean it should be alright if you just send it for a friend or more friends
and you can delete right after
no it isn't
it is 🤔
oh nvm
🤦
I mean
WE KNOW YOUR NAME NOW
can give you my address too
Coming to steal your maid
if you wanna send me fan mail
u can have it link when someone clicks your pic
or something
or other
hehexd
bye
stream up
my stream up in 30min

Whyyy
to see you flex your butt
she's into me guys
Someone showing butt?
Gigglethirst
Got a mod on your side

oh god
Rank 7 rogue btw


@supple hearth Tom showing his gramma his ass. For likes.
wiping on agg, that's some sick gameplay if I've ever seen it
I'm selling my money for gameplay
ill tune in when tom gets to progress argus for the first time 
he still hasn't killed argus? Wtf I thought he wasn't trash at the game
yeah I was wrong about him
Careful or else ima call the police for toxic behaviour
oh wait, usually thats someone else doing that
🤔
i mean im just saying the truth 🤷🏿
the braggadocio implied to me that he was at least 11/11 but I guess that's what I get for not looking him up
damn guys
i mean
whats happening here
thats what you all get for listening to the loudest monkey 
not wrong
I still don't understand the logic behind being good at a class and boss kills
Guess thats above me
that's why I click


that's no secret tho I dont hide anything
y'all toxic
the guild reformed, it was meant to be good
it wasnt
it disbanded
shh bby is k
😦
nice gameplay
you're missing out
I'd totally be in a 8/11 or so guild if I weren't leading my band of doo doo heads.
But alas.
Aside from flowi, most of the 11/11 guys are pretty helpful.
What happened to that 20iq guy
Weak. Slackjack. Tyra.
boots are pretty cool on aggra rn
Depends on how you transition
who is hating on me
Zempai are you streaming
u clowns
I got 2 free screens rn
Hope youre not missing out on memento wiping on aggra
world #3 btw
yes I am
LUL
It is

Alac and 6 BB
The 4cp dreams.
If only rogues werent trolling you could kill the boss 🤔
18 viewer 👀
weak goin full time?
sub when?
Are any mods /purples 11/11 besides greyhound?
rip toms stream
no1 watching
aethys is afaik
I was
rip
We've needed a good pve rogue stream for as long as I've been a rogue.
Get on that crit lvl.
also zempai is streaming
save me
nice meme
I feel sorry for zempai when I see him maneuver on aggrammar
rings are like 1 alch
I meant, That's a lot of rings.
But I didn't realize they were that "cheap" tbh. I don't follow exchange rates.
lol 23% PB pull
@spare cloud I have enough crit for the ep Alac to sim highest. But the problem is, There's nothing you can do aside from Kb uptime, to feel like you are doing a good job. It's funny how just clipping ep /env is simple but you can't do "extra effort" to do any better.
Other than not fucking up the subterfuge
Is poison bomb good class design?
the best
I just punched a dummy for 6 Minutes with alacrity
How are bleed builds fairing these days?
2 M dps almost
weak streaming argus progress 😮 ?
progress XD
negative pb
Well I thought it would be smooth
but not that smooth
😄
if now I only had the crit for it to sim high
Yeah I noticed how smooth sin is with alacrity and having hard time adjusting with TB.
buy stuff sell higher
@spare cloud get the tsm add-on and YouTube guides on it
tsm won yesterday i think
@spare cloud the part that kind of sucks is the no 2p20. But it lets your ilvl go up substantially.
@lone junco Yeah I'd be running 915 shoulders with 2p20
My 2p is 915/920. Beats 960/960 for exang. Makes me lol.
Mine would be 915/930
I have many pieces to choose from but
my chest is 975 and my gloves are 980
so it wouldnt be worth the loss
You can exang without 2p20. Garrote is insignificant
Just need to sim to see.
45+ crit makes it dance.
I still dont get why t20 is such a huge increase
or why its so strong
I mean you let it run out anyways so why is the cd so good?
except for maybe refreshing with vanish + pandemic
Cost reduction is huge.
Qol is to refresh after that exang.
Without there is a gap.
No thx.
I had like 1 day where 0p4p was higher. It's not anymore. But the rotation isn't impossible. 3ma/boots is still the big deal.
link @dire spoke
classical
KB'ing right before transition

Dm the click fam
I did the tom soak aswell
what lego do i use at aggramar progres besides shoulders
bracers
well, do shoulder/belt
Looks like I dodged some early morning idiocy > _> 💦
I wanna hear notter asmr aswell
i'm just building my metal mecha
Yeah like later today probably.
Daylight "savings" time has ruined my ass.
Need to make some truly hideous weakauras.
Now called;
Whackauras.
Some nice stuff : https://wago.io/HkCN1KftG
TEST Toxic Blade CD (icon) TEST Toxic Blade Duration (progresstexture) Toxic Blade 2 (text)
Some experimental crap - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/422311452645261313/unknown.png

Was a joke.
Massive readability issues even if I know what they are meant to represent.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Like, the normal stuff is fine, even though I don't use them anymore.
Some people seem to like them though, not the CP.
The CP read better in game.
got a new 980 ring off argus tonight
ooobby
so, in elaborate planning. is it ment to aim for muti muti envenom withing its buff?
chat ded?
Doing WA stuff.
whew
Making some bars.
aggramar 40%
gogogo
no we done
Yeah but tomorrow, gogogo.
At least youre getting further than us 
on tuesday "the Clicker" is gonna beat Aggramar
Any1 know a good WA that checks and says how many targets thats in range of FoK
that might work
Nah too many hooks with cloak
No wait... > _>
Use that WA
and delete the TRIGGER 2 from each of the three WAs in there.
Could be a TRIGGER 2 under that TRIGGER 1.
Works fine that way.
B A R Z eh?
Some texture overlaps 😦
¯_(ツ)_/¯
PUT EVERYTHING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE
yeah, I already changed my WA to graphical combo points, number combo points doesn't work for me
still trying to find the best texture for it tho, using simple squares right now xD
I like the raid frames of it
but not gonna install it
I would need to switch off 90%
which is plain stupid
Yeah it might be worth to do it when the new expansion hits and you do new shit anyways
but not when you used to everything already
send invite
^ +1

Why is the party over 😡
dafuq
It never even started
Anime was a mistake.
♿
120% bad
OPENER MONKEY WOOOOOOOOO
wtf is that monkey?
hmm, I kinda liked the idea 🤔
It's also like, woooOOO FINISHER
Gotta see the monkey =\
😡”join with desktop app”
I liked breaking b
why dont you just go classic
I like trains
Yeah why do you think I am making abominations?
=\
Fucking BEHOLD!!
The Distraction!!
wtf
IF I could do CP on a gradient.

I wouldn't that is an awful idea.
Do bracers sim properly on raidbots? I sim higher with boots than i do with bracers
bleed build siming 10k under posin 
thanks
I had some IQ10 plays today
because I watched tom right beforehand
OMG
XD
I CANT
SEND AIR
The 3rd clip 😂😂
God
I hate raising
Raiding*
Who is gonna join channel 1
Asmr carrot btw @gaunt moat
join for asmr
@spare cloud
Yes
Half the shit in my house is German
wait you live here?
are you half german?
🐗
Banned
hey guys new Assa rogue here. do ya'll always delay toxic blade to lign up with the last 9s of kingsbane, or just use on cd with envenom buff up
Play Alacrity
@faint sleet ive been doing last 9 seconds, but reading more and more logs i think on cooldown is better
because the CD is lower than KB?
^
you get more casts during a fight that way
Alacrity #nuffsaid
You lose too many uses of Tb if you delay it
if you use both on cd, your TB will probably line up with your 3rd kingsbane anyway
To the point where it’s not worth
kk
making it way more efficient in the long run
however, if you have shoulders
Quick learner - iwin
its best to wait for the last 9 seconds when your second vanish is up
so your second vanish will look something like: Vendetta, reapply rupture, kingsbane, toxic blade at 9 seconds, at 6 seconds use vanish envenom muti envenom muti envenom
what
5seconds
So with relics should you only have 1 vendetta relic?
did you look at herodamage ?
If you’re playing shoulders you should either have 1 or 3 master assassins
Lmao
doing garrison inv
Is guardian MT possible without thrash wrists?
I'm beginning to think it is, but it's significantly harder without them
idk
https://youtu.be/vvdMLE6Tmvc @dire spoke
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Screencap, pin, ban me if I don’t. I’ll sing the best friend song to you when you kill argus
lol i mighta broke the FoK animation
use crafted boots leggo and be in wisp form and fok
tis funny
Least someone appreciates my stupid WeakAuras.
Cute
send him the monkey cp
I am sure he saw it along with the rest of that mess.
Best part is that I trashed that WA > _>
He didn't ask for me to remake them so whatever, if he needs help with something he knows where to find me > _>
Nope.
I changed how my debuffs are being tracked (different group styles), but other than that the only new thing I am doing is removing the Mantle icon and using the outline to track it.
the wago upload has all the backgrounds but are just turned off.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I wanted to get things closer together but then remembered that I do not like that kinda cluster.
I do need/want him to add a center text option.
Yeah I just track the normal DPS stuff, no feint/cloak etc.
and GCD, that's probably the only fringe thing.
If I have 3 Vendetta relics should I be saving vanish for Vendetta when they're about to line up? Sorry if I missed this skimming the guide just got the 3rd
You always save vanish for vendetta
But with the 3rd relic does that allow me to use vendetta once inbetween vanishes without losing dps?
":D


Now I am wondering what that was edited FROM.
Guys what do u think about Aethys rotation for assa rogue?
It's probably fine.
👀
Dammit. No-fun police reported my rogue's name too many times.
Now I've lost Beanflick and Fokkingsheet.
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
kinda irked by how i have to compete for brezzes everytime other dps die alongside me
Have your tried dying less?
i rarely die as is
When they call for a wipe make sure to take as long as possible for vanish
lmao when you play NE you just use shadowmeld
But yeah. Why is the rogue doing 3/4 my damage prioritized over me when it comes to brez
Hi i have a question about finishers .. when I am at 4 combo points, I use fan of knives as a filler to execute finisher with 5 points if garrotte is on cd. Is it worth it or should I stop doing that and go with 4 point finisher?
Where does this FoK shit keep coming from ?
Follow the guide, linked above.
just use 4 @ionic zinc
@slim estuary Thank you
but do go read the guide fully. It's all explained there
So i been grouping up with a WW, why am i a rogue
his burst his cleave his st his aoe
are WW being nerfed in bfa/
No one knows anything about balance in BFA
And will continue to not know for another half a year or so
wtf, they never took our job
we still the best class to soak shit
🤷
they are for once in this expansion good
monks are good for one tier, please nerf 😡
The only problem I have with DH is that I just spam jump whenever I switch back to another char
and also the fact pandas can't be dh 😢
no i mean no class should be best in all dps situations like best aoe best st best cleave WW gotta get nerfed thx blizz
afflock already nerfed in bfa, but no ww nerfs so far
isn't bfa still in alpha lol
blizz got mad no one playin ww so did this sleezi trick instead of making their animations flashier
the lazy road
So just nerf every spec until assassination is at the top? 🤔
Then complain you can't play sub? 🤔
Idk why you expect blizzard to know all the information about class balancing for BfA when it isn't even in beta 😐
I mean
If you play a pure dps class
There will always be a good spec and if you care about your damaj and don't play like a spoon you will perform well.
ez
bring back combat
zopps that won't happe, i've always hated sub
sin or combat ftw
combat was deleted tho
the rework has yet to be put in alpha, we'll see hwo it goes
What rework?
they said they will change outlaw
I fcking love it
Thincj at s a one of a kind spec
Cept for some optimization the spec is gr8
Hope they remove rtb
Enough people already did
no i mean to silje
oh
blizz dun care who lvoes it
I gainged 18 ilvl on my weapon and my simc dps was the same. ??????
bad crucible traits?
ilvl doesnt always mean dps increase
guess so
You can get 50 ilvl increse as long as you get fcking leech and movement speed ...
Lmao
Humans always needed a god to worship, ours are the rng gods
Not the gods we need but the ones we deserve
the whole expansion is a rng fest
guys, i've got this great ability concept
it's simple, minimalistic
yet very effective
ii call it "poison bomb"
blood sweat > poison bomb
Everything is RNG it makes me sick
I suppose the game makes me wanna play even more after 100+ tokens and stil no arcano on any of my chars.
poison bomb aligns with their philosophy for this game
Lol, rng with gear is like what drives ppl to play the game in general
And Ofc that argunite is suppose to be rng sooooooo...
no shit
Rather make game more harder than add rng feature
but yeah it's cool to QQ end of the tier/exp
They introduced the rng on gear to make it impossible to get BiS so it's always possible to get an upgrade until the end of the expansion.
someone still rockin 2pc - 4pc?
👋
So everyone still has got stuff to do even if the content is over
or can look for upgrades
yey me too
yeah 😄 but I mean I've killed those bossess probably around 250 times so
they taste kinda wood
I know but still, if you think back to older expansions. If you had BiS there was no point in continuing doing the content
Well, in wod u had valor and ring up
that's about it tho
That's why I think they gonna keep the rng stuff on gear. I just hope they calm down with the rng abilities.
That feeling when u main healer u have no rng abilities
yeah Poison Bomb should be a clickable ability
nop
🍋
i like PB
I like assa
this artifact challenge is really cool
aka im loving the fact that the circles just dont show up for me
do you have projected textures enabled?
ye
i tried that
ive wasted like
13 attempts now
messing with settings
to try and fix
even at max res?
yeah
they just
dont appear
i see the purple after they explode
out of my like
15 attempts now
ive seen
1 appear
the rest have been invis
odd, can you make a ticket maybe ?
its obv something with my pc
are you maybe on dx9? @sage dagger
I remember someone used to have that problem with one of the mechanics on mistress...
ye they do
@quick ice lets be honest, no one could see anything on mistress
yeah, but I think this guy literally couldn't see hydra shot
maybe try one of the colour blind modes wow has to offer to see the circles
cennel ded, class ded, spec ded, gaim ded
🙃

👌🏼
you are only a real rogue player if you dislike every rogue spec but still make fun of other classes, with their specs.
That nearly made sense
oh sorry i forgot we had sub players in this channel, ill make it extra clear for you dw
Just because you play a ♿ spec doesn't you're allowed ♿ spelling
i never had a spelling error
(edited)
i assumed you didn't need me to highlight the fact it was rogue specs
that was the change
Now now, that wasn't the only change.
Anyone killed Argus? Got a couple of fight specific questions if you don't mind answering. Fire me a PM.
do we though?
we do
you could just ask your argus specific questions in here otherwise pm me
more people might come to the right answer to a question (if you sieve out the bullshit and the memes)
👀
this class is a meme itself
you are a meme
naya in RH? what is this
we all know u were boosted flowi cmon
time to disband and make a not finn-only guild?
how come you were on argus, thought you paid to be benched
Racism
They said im not allowed to pass
Had to play my 930ilvl hunter
Cos apparently i have the shittiest alts in the guild and they need gear

why do they need gear
So we can do 2x aggra and 2x argus per reset
sounds like fun
My 930 hunter still beat 970 weakfreeze on every boss
wEak is more 💭 than 💪
True LUL
@shrewd oriole buying vermintide? i'm bored and want to play
Yeah I’m buying it













