assassination

[civic palm]

Got Jhonwei on the train for silly squares.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Some people like it .

I am just designing.

@ 4-5am

[dire spoke]

ez

[civic palm]

and in the original GIF I posted, the KB duration is redundant, Vendetta Duration is fine to track I suppose.

and TB is being tracked with a bar.

[dire spoke]

I just really don't see why clusters of icons with numbers help because where the fuck do you look

it's so easy to mix

[civic palm]

Most of the time it's just a replacement for your action bar.

In the case of CDs.

[dire spoke]

in my other WAs I have bars for env and SoT uptime, super easy to track the clipping

[civic palm]

Bars are better for some things IMO.

Like TB.

Knowing the duration is the only thing that matters.

Whether you can squeeze another ENV in there, bar works fine.

The icons + numbers are just reminders, like BigWigs.

Hey, RUP pandemic in 3, TB just came off CD, etc.

[dire spoke]

I mean, the fact that you change colors on your rupture number to remind you that the pandemic timing is there

just shows how good visual work

[civic palm]

I am paying more attention to the number itself and the refresh happens the moment the color is changed, but the color isn't triggering that action from me.

The number is.

With the CPs though.

https://gfycat.com/FatalWatchfulIbis

Changing the 4CP and 5CP colors helps.

[dire spoke]

yeah ofc, if you track the number beforehand

[civic palm]

Red especially is like O_O finisher please.

[dire spoke]

if you're busy stressed on mechanics because stuff happens differently the colors help me from keeping using buttons incorrectly

[civic palm]

Yeah.

I would say that if you are learning an entirely new encounter, there are a lot of things to keep stacked in your mind.

Like if I were to ask - randomly - some other fictional Rogue in our raid to, for example;

Soak Vari. charge but instead of just Feinting;

To use Crimson Vial 7 seconds before the charge as well.

They're probably gonna not wanna do that, cause I play with potatoes.

But I do it anyway cause I know our healers are a little... slow.

[dire spoke]

yeah

[civic palm]

Dense Concoction isn't even something that goes through most peoples' minds, just Feint everything will be OK.

[nimble tartan]

BOONK GANG WHOLE LOTTA GANG SHIT

[civic palm]

Not to mention, even on Heroic, being assigned to soak, using CV + Feint, then getting targeted by Necro. moments before the charge.

People are gonna

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire spoke]

that's my old ones https://snag.gy/JL2ME9.jpg

more bars

[civic palm]

B A R Z

w/e works is what I tell people.

I think my WA are very generic and general.

[dire spoke]

sure

[civic palm]

Also your bars to from right to left ye?

With the icon on the fucking right.

[dire spoke]

yeah

[civic palm]

#triggered

[dire spoke]

it would be weird to turn that, because 0 energy == empty bar

[civic palm]

Icons on the left though?

[dire spoke]

and having the icon on the right keeps me track the last bits of uptime better

because the bar ends where it's 0

[civic palm]

What's the bar between SoT and ENV?

[dire spoke]

KB, with the 8s mark

[civic palm]

Hey KB has an icon you fucking :shakes_fist_at_sun:

[dire spoke]

[civic palm]

8 second mark though?

[dire spoke]

9s lol

[civic palm]

What for though?

To remind you of what?

[dire spoke]

only for the needs if TB get's off CD right after I pop KB

that I cover the last seconds

[bronze hatch]

Hi guys, i'm new to assa and i have two questions.
1- is it worth to empower kingsbane over rupture or garrote?
2- can you I toxic blade to enchance the dmg of an already applied kingsbane?

[civic palm]

Right.

Yeah that's just in my head, the TB cutoff and ENV pandemic time for KB to be covered.

Kingbane only has the original hits Empowered.

The DoT gets nothing.

and the DoT from KB is modified dynamically, so any buff to PSN/NAT dmg, vers, crit, agi, etc. will increase it's damage.

Fucking...

Kingsbane is also a weirdo 2 hit composite attack.

[bronze hatch]

Thank you ^^

[civic palm]

So I am not even sure how many of those would get the Nightstalker buff.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire spoke]

2

[civic palm]

2?

[dire spoke]

oh I misread something

[civic palm]

mm

[molten flicker]

how do u do that bar around the icons?

[civic palm]

Progressive Texture, anticlockwise.

[dire spoke]

you add a shape texture that does the cooldown animation

[civic palm]

like, 8 pixels larger than the icon above it.

[dire spoke]

and place it behind

[civic palm]

There are two square textures, one with a "border" and the other without.

Border looks better IMO > _> though at larger sizes it might be different.

[dire spoke]

I think I should use my old WAs on aggramar progress today ... changing WA is always a damage loss for me cus I'm a visual learner

[molten flicker]

so it's a second weakaura then

[civic palm]

Pretty sure you can make it all into one but that's lost on me at the moment.

But yeah, second WA under the previous.

[molten flicker]

thanks

[dire spoke]

yeah u would need some LUA maybe

but fuck that

[civic palm]

Yeah I am thinking you can just, use the export LUA and stick it SOMEWHERE.

and have it trigger off of like, Trigger 2 and not Trigger one for example.

IDUNNO

[dire spoke]

🤷🏻

[civic palm]

Fucking TROOF.

[dire spoke]

I'm glad I managed to do a garrote database function for empowered shit

[civic palm]

Yeah the Empowered calls are also lost on me.

Never looked into them.

[dire spoke]

I re-used the nightblade one

[molten flicker]

I get 5 square shapes

but they are all a square emptying

[civic palm]

Yo we gonna need some screenies or something.

Like emptying from the top down ye?

[molten flicker]

,

[civic palm]

Yeah, last to.

one has a border, other doesn't

can pick either

the bordered one looks tight as fuck around an icon that has a sharp edge and is squared.

Wonder what these look like on rounded/default icons > _>

Probably not great.

[dire spoke]

use round icons new meta

[civic palm]

I wanna use Diamond icons.

Save a TON of space.

[molten flicker]

how do u force it to go behind the other icon?

[civic palm]

So in Display

at the bottom.

there are like four drop down menus

bottom right is layers

[dire spoke]

oh I actually have a clip of the bars WA cus ppl gone nuts on how I play

[civic palm]

Should say INHERITED

There are plenty of bars WA's, weird.

At one point I was gonna track CP and NRG as numbers.

Did not work out.

[molten flicker]

it says inherited but it shows on top of the old wa

[dire spoke]

nah fuck that man

[civic palm]

Yeah change the one you want in the back, under everything else, to like LOW.

and then the icon you want on top of that to MEDIUM.

[dire spoke]

it's an option in 'display' tab

or you can drag and drop it below the other weakaura

[civic palm]

I even fucking changed my NRG bar to be RED under 35NRG, BLUE over 35NRG, and YELLOW over 55NRG.

[dire spoke]

works most of the time

[civic palm]

Yeah the layer inheritance can be weird better to just set it.

[dire spoke]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BreakableCautiousLlamaSMOrc

[molten flicker]

how much bigger do you set it to?

[civic palm]

My icons are 36x36, background is like, 44/45.

[molten flicker]

cool

thanks

[civic palm]

👍

[chrome mural]

My friend made this CP tracker, idk how he did it but its really useful

[civic palm]

Did you check between the background and non-background texture?

That's just Five WA, four bars, and 1 big red icon.

and then there's the CP you have shown over the nameplate 😛

[chrome mural]

Yeah have those too but sometiems with the colours I cant quite see em

xD

[dire spoke]

🤔

[civic palm]

AND the CP you have still on over your player frame.

[dire spoke]

you have 15 CP right there

meta

[civic palm]

TONS

[chrome mural]

Well I find it useful

[civic palm]

Like I said earlier, whatever works best for you.

Track your energy twice if you want to.

[chrome mural]

xD

[civic palm]

❤

[chrome mural]

I had to make a WA for my poisons to let me know when they are wearing off

Only took one boss fight with my poisons falling off halfway through to get it

[civic palm]

Yeah that's getting more and more common.

[dire spoke]

yeah I hate it too

but it's smart to track env, sot, vp

[civic palm]

Mine looks liiiike... https://media.wago.io/screenshots/S1aSHZWgz/5a13868a63cd592aa019084e.png

Though not there always

of course.

I need to make it larger because I think I am getting too used to the way it looks > _>

[dire spoke]

make them fullscreen

[civic palm]

Gonna be, OVER my NRG.

Fucking miss this cunt.

[chrome mural]

Thats nice

[molten flicker]

I can't get it to look as crisp as it does in your gif

:d

[civic palm]

There's also an option...

in the DISPLAY tab...

for SMOOTH

something or another.

[molten flicker]

ye I saw that

[civic palm]

So for reference, you mean this one ye? https://gfycat.com/PersonalAntiqueConure

[molten flicker]

yep

[civic palm]

I imagine the color has a lot to do with it. Smooth Animation, non-bordered texture.

and the size.

Other than that, dunno.

[molten flicker]

do you have it set to the standard 41% crop?

[civic palm]

Here's the other colors, smaller background box as well. https://gfycat.com/FatalWatchfulIbis

Yeah I changed none of the cropping on the background textures.

Look at that GCD bar go, whoosh, whoosh.

[molten flicker]

could u just upload that setup somewhere?

xd

[dire spoke]

only thing I dislike are the big numbers

[civic palm]

mmm, lemme see if I can grab it for you real quick, don't know what I might have deleted.

[dire spoke]

if you can't I got it on wago

[civic palm]

I have it all

updating stuff

you want the CP as well Kazuya?

[molten flicker]

nah

[civic palm]

kk 1 second

https://wago.io/p/MizerokWoW

Not gonna do writeups for those.

Top Bar is literally just the icons shown.

The only difference with those WAs are that the backgrounds are turned "off", and need to have the NEVER option removed in the LOAD tab.

[molten flicker]

the cds show twice on the same icon

[dire spoke]

I just realized that I often used KB before vend

🤦🏻

mid-fight tho

[civic palm]

If you are using OmniCC you need to blacklist Weakauras in Omnicc.

[molten flicker]

because u have "show cooldown text" ticked as well as "%p" text option

nah it's just in weakauras

[civic palm]

It's not, the numbers are not doubled for me.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire spoke]

I had that issue with a mate too

[civic palm]

the text option is to define what is being shown in that text field.

[molten flicker]

I mean, I know what it is and I fix it by unchecking either option

[civic palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten flicker]

maybe my weakauras addon is more recently updated than yours

[civic palm]

No update for me.

Lemmeee cheeeeck

[molten flicker]

these 2 show the same thing, u can uncheck either

[civic palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire spoke]

kazuya that's an old WAs version

they removed that option

[molten flicker]

I see

[civic palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/422325798587072532/unknown.png

2.5.6 it seems

Well hey there's the issue.

[molten flicker]

ye I mean it's no problem since I know where the options are

[dire spoke]

update WA and re-import it

[civic palm]

Yarp

[molten flicker]

it was just different from the gif

[dire spoke]

🤷🏻

[molten flicker]

2.5.6 is the latest version zempai

[dire spoke]

no?

[civic palm]

Can't be.

I literally showed you 2.5.7

[civic palm]

uhhuh

[molten flicker]

the latest I can find atleast

xd

[dire spoke]

use twitch client man

[civic palm]

also, here's the original TB WA - https://wago.io/HkCN1KftG

It's pretty clean and a good example.

[dire spoke]

february 22 ? I believe they removed that checkbox a lot earlier

[civic palm]

Yeah I haven't seen that in a while.

[molten flicker]

that's the version I have

[civic palm]

That WA is the icon, CD on the icon, duration box and duration text.

also the box pulses.

👍

[fiery nest]

wait u guys don't use weakauras that only flash barrier when it's ok to refresh due to pandemic? yikers

what are you doing with ur lives

[civic palm]

We're past that.

That was 2016

[strange python]

Sim it

[fiery nest]

ok good

[dire spoke]

@strange python 👺

[civic palm]

Though I might make a background highlight+pulse when something is within Pandemic range.

[dire spoke]

I miss MP-AP sin

[civic palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[round harbor]

@fiery nest y have that when I can just use aethys and just press whatever it tell me ;)

[fiery nest]

😂

nice meme

[civic palm]

N I T E E U B O I S

🌆

[dire spoke]

nite nite

[fast nacelle]

im in struggle

i can rename to Instagram

should i take it

im fabolous though

[warm parcel]

Should you? Prolly not
Will you? Yea

[fiery nest]

yes

[dire spoke]

post bubblebath+legs images plz

like a real instagrill

[fiery nest]

henlo

[warm parcel]

umm

[molten flicker]

fapfapfapfapfapfapfap

[fast nacelle]

?!

[gaunt moat]

hipz, sfw channel..

[fiery nest]

hey he asked for it

and a bikini shows more

[gaunt moat]

yeah but i don't think people who might have people looking over their shoulder asked for it 😛

[fast nacelle]

too late my grandma saw it

[fiery nest]

can i look over your shoulder

[warm parcel]

Also @gaunt moat I really need more of your asmr in my life

And pref not 5 am

[gaunt moat]

i only do private ASMR shows for ~tips~ tokens

[warm parcel]

😅

[gaunt moat]

weak, i already got vermintide 2, need people to play with. iwin also got it

[dire spoke]

weak!

[gaunt moat]

you're not intrested?

[dire spoke]

give me a playlist for tonights raid

prettyplz

[warm parcel]

What you want

And Im not into VT2 really

I still have kcd and nier to play

[fiery nest]

vermintide2 is fucking sick

great game

[dire spoke]

idk it's aggramar progress something that not makes my head smash the table

[gaunt moat]

@fiery nest you got it?

[fiery nest]

ye

[gaunt moat]

oh, well add me on steam if i can join you when you play

[warm parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPjCwXyvTG8

[gaunt moat]

(my profile has link)

[fiery nest]

sure man, i always rage on the fucking idiots we get in quickplay

[dire spoke]

ooommmmmmmmm

[gaunt moat]

i used to play vermintide 1 a lot with some of my friends, but after i already bought this new one they told me they're not gonna play it, lol

[warm parcel]

Isnt it just a hack and slash looter

[gaunt moat]

hmmm, it's first person hack and slash, but not a looter

[fiery nest]

kind of, theres crafting and rpg elements

[gaunt moat]

it's more survival?

[fiery nest]

yea

[warm parcel]

rogue elements?

[gaunt moat]

basically a hoard arena where you progress through the level, and fight mini bosses on the way

[fiery nest]

no its not a roguelike

[dire spoke]

if you can't talent alacrity it's a poop game

[gaunt moat]

you have 4 people, each one plays a different character (class) and each class has 3 specs (different special powers)

(there's 5 classes)

[warm parcel]

l4d like?

[fiery nest]

weapons you get completely change your playstyle too 😄

[gaunt moat]

yes

[fiery nest]

within the classes

[dire spoke]

like poe

[gaunt moat]

how is that like PoE XD

[dire spoke]

idk I just started ahahaah

[fiery nest]

its first person diablo 3 but better

[dire spoke]

I'm so lost man

cba with reading wiki for 3h

[fiery nest]

lol

3h wiki = good game 😄

[sharp viper]

well the sub classes can change your role and thus playstyle completely

[fiery nest]

yup

and weapons you get can multiply that again

[sharp viper]

gotta level them all tho to unlock and most of the time kerillian is already taken xD

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/pWPfLe.jpg

🤦🏻

[gaunt moat]

my favorite was always the witch hunter guy

[gilded lark]

[sharp viper]

saltzpyre? seems fine as well, i like kerillian and the mage

the zealot subclass is pretty popular

[gaunt moat]

i mean, he's basically reaper from overwatch right? XD

[sharp viper]

well you got very limited ammunition but his ranged basic weapon playstyle is reaper style 1h mini shotguns

or rather pistols, don't know the spread on those

[uncut fractal]

Hey guys new to Sin and playing bleed build, I'm struggling with uptime on garrote after exsang, should I only exsang when garrote will be off cd?

[viscid helm]

gl playing bleed without t20

[uncut fractal]

ahhh okay

oh yeah, I can see how a 3 second CD on garrote would make that easier

well fuck

[viscid helm]

u need t20 2pc (gloves/shoulder) 3x MA relic and bracer/boots lego

for bleed

[uncut fractal]

well thats unfortunate

[strange python]

Hello there I have a little question about the uptime of envenom. During the opener after you vanish and you gonna use your first envenom, are you gonna reapply envenom as soon as you can or you gonna reapply before the buff falls off at ~1 sec. I understand casting the more envenom will increase KG's damage, but also spamming envenom is waste of energy.

[viscid helm]

What is KG and how does envenom affect it?

[strange python]

Sorry KB

[viscid helm]

I'm not sure you understood how the KB stacks work

either way, if you have mantle, you spam untill the buff drops

if not, there is no reason to spam envenom unless capping energy

[strange python]

Ok, thanks

[modest zodiac]

is raidbots down atm ?

nvm my internet died

[shrewd oriole]

Morning friends

[dire spoke]

finally he woke up from the dead

[shrewd oriole]

stjern is listening to a great song

[dire spoke]

errrr

[sharp viper]

isn't it uncomfortable to fall asleep with your headset on?

[shrewd oriole]

I was wearing ear buds

[limber fog]

Hey I have a question about mid fight rotation

with shoulders / wrists when I have vend/tb/kb do i get then all up..vanish > full rupture > mut > envenom?

or just envemon out of the vanish

[dire spoke]

You env like the guide says, it can be a gain to rupture out of vanish when you can hit perfect pandemic

[limber fog]

so outside of pandemic

don't do it?

[dire spoke]

Why are you asking twice? 🤔

[limber fog]

sorry..

guess im just confusing myself..guess ill search the web..sorry

and i missed the line that says If you have Mantle of the Master assassin then you would cast Envenom instead of rupture.

my bad

[dire spoke]

I was talking about perfect pandemic, not somewhere in pandemic

[limber fog]

I mean..my logs are 90+ ..just trying to get them better

formally sub player

[dire spoke]

cast PB more often

[limber fog]

actually 88.5 avg..guess it's not 90..my b

[spare cloud]

[limber fog]

Yeh..it's bad..trying to fix it

[shrewd oriole]

Not having a 99 avg

[limber fog]

:/

I'm new to sin..give me a break

[shrewd oriole]

Hard spec

[limber fog]

Been playing it 4 days

Literally have never spec'd into it..ever

[dire spoke]

not having 20% PB on heroic bosses

♿

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[limber fog]

Argus prog "Can you switch to sin..please"

Feel like im gonna get bashed for asking anything

[shrewd oriole]

No

You won’t

I’ll answer all your questions

In a positive manner

I promise

[spare cloud]

Dfa'ing into group with Gaze

[shrewd oriole]

Sub on argus LUL

[limber fog]

So to be clear..from the guide..I let the first rupture out of the opener completely fall off

[spare cloud]

No

[limber fog]

I've been refreshing at 4 ish seconds

[shrewd oriole]

You let your rupture from vendetta fall off yes

Because that rupture is empowered

I normally refresh it at like 0.5 seconds

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

That rupture is a GUCCI rupture

[limber fog]

Alright..im been refreshing too early..way too early

out of opener

[shrewd oriole]

Just like you let the initial garrote run all the way through

[jovial kite]

vendetta has nothing to do with rupture

vendetta is an active buff

and buffs your abilities for the duration its up

[shrewd oriole]

It snap shots

according to the guide

[limber fog]

appreciate no one..that helps a lot

LIterally have been hamstringing my damage cause i didn't even think of that shit

[spare cloud]

[limber fog]

well..some of

[jovial kite]

just fyi what tom just said is bullshit

[shrewd oriole]

It’s not

Lmao

It’s in the guide

[jovial kite]

nightstalker snapshots

vendetta doesnt

[spare cloud]

I'm confused now

continue please.

[dire spoke]

I feel like I did something wrong all along

[spare cloud]

I thought the reason you refresh the first rupture with pandemic is because otherwise you have to refresh during tb

where you could be evenoming

[dire spoke]

the APL refreshes even inside KB and env drops

[spare cloud]

Yeah at the last 5 seconds

probably

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/mtlEfW.jpg

[shrewd oriole]

@jovial kite te you’re right I’m being retarded

Vendetta is dynamic

[jovial kite]

ofc im right

.<

[shrewd oriole]

Fuck me im uunh

Kms

[spare cloud]

But its correct with garrote

the first one

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz ns snap shots

[spare cloud]

cuz its ns

yeh

[limber fog]

so don't let rupture fall off ..

like i've been doing

[shrewd oriole]

Nah don’t just refresh it on pandemic

Outside of TB

[spare cloud]

HOW ARE YOU EVEN 99% avg

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[dire spoke]

DfA > SoD

[limber fog]

lol

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz small things like this hardly have any effect

It’s not like I drop my rupture

[spare cloud]

tbh I drop rupture sometimes

[limber fog]

i have crazy ocd..

[dire spoke]

same, mostly cus CP cuck me

[limber fog]

hate seeing the dots fall off

[spare cloud]

like when boss has 0,5% hp and rupture would do no dmg

[shrewd oriole]

I drop rupture on phys add

Kappa

Multi dotting btw

[spare cloud]

drop rupture on all the adds

then swap to nature

[dire spoke]

I looked at the APL sample today, I was overthinking this spec so hard

[spare cloud]

I want to play with smth other than shoulders

but I don't have the gear for it

[shrewd oriole]

Idk why

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

You need the rng shoulders to carry your sorry ass

Jk I wanna play something else too but I can’t get t20 tier 😦

[dire spoke]

I mean reposting it rn but look at this shit https://snag.gy/mtlEfW.jpg

nobody play like that

[spare cloud]

what

[dire spoke]

I would refresh rup early, vendetta > KB

the fuk man

[spare cloud]

I play it like that

😦

[dire spoke]

[spare cloud]

evenom before then rupture in the window where evenom is still up

thats totally legit

[shrewd oriole]

^

What’s wrong with that I don’t get it

[lethal heart]

-> do wrong rotation

-> get best psn bombs

-> top dps

[shrewd oriole]

He doesn’t drop Env

[lethal heart]

EZ CLAP

[dire spoke]

then CP cuck you and it takes 4s to get the next env up

gg

[shrewd oriole]

Just get a 3cp env if need be

[spare cloud]

Is it a 5 cp evenom before?

[dire spoke]

you can't know that from the sample or?

I mean you can guess

let me quicksim

still doesn't matters, you see it drops env

[spare cloud]

Because

[dire spoke]

and if it takes 2 mut it's gonna be even worse

wow

[spare cloud]

I meant to say smth else

because that doesnt have anything to do with each other

[jovial kite]

its like this whole channel lost 20 iq over a course of 12 hour

s

[dire spoke]

does this include me?

[spare cloud]

I'm deleting that because thats not what I meant to say it just came in between

[dire spoke]

[spare cloud]

because retarded

[jovial kite]

no zempai ur my man

[spare cloud]

but it doesn't drop evenom with 5cp

[dire spoke]

???

you see it drops

env is 6s or not

[spare cloud]

its 8 secs with pandemic

[jovial kite]

uhhh

env doesnt pandemic

[dire spoke]

yeah

[spare cloud]

then im being bullshitted

by my

weakaura

wtf

[echo estuary]

if this channel moved 1 standard deviation to the left, what was it at to begin with, thats the real question !

[jovial kite]

^ i appreciate this

[spare cloud]

I walked to the dummy because I was thinking I saw a 8 second evenom

in my weakaura

wtf

[shrewd oriole]

slagg

[echo estuary]

i see no difference here from twitch chat apart from the lack of kappas monkas and other nonsense

[shrewd oriole]

env doenst pandemic

does*

that I am 127% sure of

I can show u in game

[spare cloud]

yeah

I thought I was being bullshit

https://gyazo.com/0d8dc66a3088a49bd46e49b1eb857445

max duration is 6

🤔

[dire spoke]

look at that

who the hell would play around KB like that

[jovial kite]

yeah mb was thinking of sot

[spare cloud]

Are you trolling

[shrewd oriole]

nice fucking

420iq jack

@jovial kite T 0 S TODAY OR NOT CMON HELP A BLLEDY BOI BROTHER OUT

LUL

[jovial kite]

aye

[echo estuary]

are you saying its always like this in Somalia?

[shrewd oriole]

@spare cloud I saw that

[spare cloud]

Everyone saw that

[jovial kite]

well we were talking about kb so i thought we were talking sot

[dire spoke]

I'm confused

[spare cloud]

I wasn't trying to be that rude though

So sorry

Was more meant as a half joke

[jovial kite]

my butt was barely scraped

[spare cloud]

You almost made me think I was seeing things

tbh

I was like, I clearly see 8 seconds what is with my wa

[jovial kite]

just for clarification; env does pandemic, sot and ep doesnt

in case someone is still confused

[spare cloud]

Zempai whats with the screen

You are marking the evenom durations wrong

why is it only 5 seconds

[dire spoke]

I just realized that

give me a sec then

[spare cloud]

it drops 1 second

if it was pandemic before

[dire spoke]

yeah

[spare cloud]

but kinda weird tbh

if I was in that situation I would probably delay kb for vendetta

even though not 100% correct

[dire spoke]

I also would buff init with vend

[spare cloud]

but those 3 seconds probably wouldn't lose me a cast

[dire spoke]

I want to convert that sample to a log

that would be neat

[jovial kite]

cant remember which one the sample apl was taken from

the 2nd iterated sim or the 2nd highest iteration sim

it was either or

i remember aethys saying

[dire spoke]

nah nah, I quicksim myself and took it from it

[spare cloud]

Can't tmog t20

cuz no shoulders

😦

[jovial kite]

i need bigger t20 shoulders

[dire spoke]

play orc

[spare cloud]

Also voidelfs dont have a haircut that doesn't go through the helmet

and looks retarded

[shrewd oriole]

notbeinghuman

smh

[dire spoke]

oh you can tell CPs my bad

[echo estuary]

you need a drink lads. may i suggest bowmore, single malt

[spare cloud]

I don't drink

actually

[dire spoke]

uhm

oh

I'm stupid GEEZ kms

[spare cloud]

I tried working on my own build on poe a little today

never felt that stupid before

[dire spoke]

dude

I'm so lost in this game

no idea what to gem

I picked this one rn https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2094551

🤷🏻

[spare cloud]

I watched https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaFHfrY-6uGSAvmczp_7a6Q when I started

[dire spoke]

I guess in Act1 it doesn't matter at all what you do, expect talenting

[spare cloud]

well it matters for speed

but you can buy anything you need later anyways

[dire spoke]

yeah I figured

speed? why does it matter how fast I play the game

[shrewd oriole]

VROOM

[spare cloud]

well, its like in diablo

you kinda compete for speed

if you get more experienced

[dire spoke]

I never played diablo I have no idea what it's about and the goals are

[spare cloud]

You want to get to the endgame as quickly as possible

if you play a little competitively

[echo estuary]

the goals are recreation and turning off your brain for a while

[dire spoke]

[spare cloud]

Also leveling is kinda the most boring aspect

so you want to complete it as fast as possible

so you can get to the later parts

[dire spoke]

every login I play 2 levels and quit the game again

[spare cloud]

If you actually wanna play the game you gonna have to do much reading and getting used to it

I leveled till almost level 80 and I have 0 idea of what im doing

I dont know anything about the game

[dire spoke]

I leveled to 10 and restarted because I was talenting wrong for endgame build

[spare cloud]

Yeah

happens when you start

[dire spoke]

it's a shit game design tbh

swapping around gems is sweet

but also there are to many

how can this even be balanced

[spare cloud]

well tbh i dont think its shit

youre not supposed to get to endgame on your first character

and youre supposed to play and make many different characters

[dire spoke]

I don't even twink in WoW

not gonna happen

in poe then

[shrewd oriole]

leveling in poe

[spare cloud]

Well then its probably not the right game for you

tbh

[shrewd oriole]

takes 1/5 of the time

it takes in wow

less even

in like 6 hours you're at maps

[spare cloud]

well if you know what youre doing

[shrewd oriole]

aka endgame

[spare cloud]

also not happening on your first character

[shrewd oriole]

in wow it's like

[spare cloud]

unless in group

[shrewd oriole]

36 hours /played

and you're 110

which isnt even end game

[spare cloud]

also you probably wont get to endgame if you dont have an alt or two

even in wow

unless you dont care when you get to endgame and youre fine with killing argus 1 week before bfa hits

[dire spoke]

yeah it might be not

d3 didn't get me because I find these click to move games weird

[shrewd oriole]

What the

Click abilities = not weird

[spare cloud]

ahahaha

[shrewd oriole]

Click move = draw the line

[spare cloud]

probably uses tab targeting as well

[dire spoke]

I didn't even know what I'm downloading, Tom lured me into this shit

[lethal heart]

!guide

[dire spoke]

I saw a lvl80 today, looked bonkers

[echo estuary]

i liked click to move, runescape was a blast 15 years ago

[spare cloud]

yeah not gonna happen

[lethal heart]

click to move is the shit

[spare cloud]

you wont look bonkers unless you pay

you will look like youre wearing a condom the whole time

most likely

[dire spoke]

[spare cloud]

i was lured into poe by ravenholdt as well

i had a blast leveling my guy when the build actually did decent dmg

was fun

[dire spoke]

I will follow that skilltree now and see what it does

maybe in a week I'm 80

[spare cloud]

took me about 17 hours to reach around 70

thats when you finish all the acts

[lone junco]

Which build?

[dire spoke]

assassin poison strike

[lone junco]

I typ play poe for about 15-30 before I afk for a year.

Depends on friends and grouping. But it doesn't have the carrot.

I hate the trading aspect and currency. So i don't stay sound long. Ooo. You bought a 6L grats. Good skill.

[dire spoke]

yeah

I saw vods ppl go buy this this this

and I was like uh yeah what do I clear stuff for then

[spare cloud]

to gear better characters

[lone junco]

Yeah. I only play one guy. In all my games. Same thing. End game best I can. I dgaf about rerolling over and over.

[spare cloud]

also noobe if you dont like it, why dont you play ssf?

thats exactly what its for

[lone junco]

You don't have to convince me of anything. I have plenty of time in that game.

[spare cloud]

Im not trying to

[lone junco]

I like trading with friends. I have a ring for you etc.

[spare cloud]

I'm just wondering

[lone junco]

But it's the currency.

[spare cloud]

you probably played like 10 times more than me

[lone junco]

I like "USING CRAFTING MATERIALS"

It's bonkers.

Rerolling colors on my 5L.

[dire spoke]

can you trade gems?

[lone junco]

Instead of using currency to buy a 6L with better stats.

Yes.

[spare cloud]

Yes

You can trade pretty much everything

[dire spoke]

to yourself aswell?

[lone junco]

Yeah. Bank

[spare cloud]

Yeah you can use anything in your stash on other characters

[dire spoke]

OOHH

[spare cloud]

the stash is league specific

for example bestiary sc stash is for all your characters in that league

[dire spoke]

I could have traded stuff before restarting then fml

[lone junco]

Careful over leveling anything your main doesnt plan to use. Your Alts won't be able to use them.

Gems are from vendor now. They didn't use to be.

They were drop only for a few years.

[hexed spindle]

hello. do rogues use finisher at 4 cp or fok til 5 then finisher?

[spare cloud]

📌

[lone junco]

Use at 4 or 5.

I do max only for the vanish ns.

But that's every 2mins.

[hexed spindle]

so i don't really need to use fok at 4? i can just use finisher alr at 4?

[lone junco]

Don't FOK in st.

[dire spoke]

why do ppl always ask the same question twice

[lone junco]

Read the guide.

[distant oracle]

I use finishers at 1cp

4Head

[jovial kite]

top trole sure gottim xd

[spare cloud]

GOTTEM

[dire spoke]

I like standing at dummies

https://snag.gy/gSu0vc.jpg

[spare cloud]

send him here

[lone junco]

Hit up that hemo.

[strange python]

Marked for death BiS on 1 target that can't die

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/3ba3dda1c4befdc7fbd74f9b4f6eb300

im sitting at dummies

[dire spoke]

You see the weirdest dudes man

I love it

[lone junco]

I'm mad at hemo btw.

[dire spoke]

and suddenly you get a whisper

and then you're like uh oh

[jovial kite]

''nice tmog man''

[lone junco]

mp DS Alac isn't that bad. Depending on gear.

[spare cloud]

zempai uses hfc set, hes not getting nice tmog whispers

[lone junco]

Hemo should have replaced mut.

[jovial kite]

hemo should've been buffed to 50%

[lone junco]

25% bleed in bracer should have done work.

[dire spoke]

replace mut with gloomblade

[lone junco]

But our env is still strong.

[strange python]

@spare cloud HFC M set has some nice pieces.

[lone junco]

Did a non fish run last week. Didn't beat my fishes but had a diff curve. Very good poison component.

[dire spoke]

raid mate posts healCD WAs in discord
but this doesn't show who casted or?

says %sourceName literally in screenshot

I get triggered by bullshit in my guild so fast rn

send halp pls

[spare cloud]

switch guild

[shrewd oriole]

Gquit

Feels good to be back home

It’s sunny too

Time to go back

Bike

[dire spoke]

^ when gearing in WoW is not enough

[shrewd oriole]

Dude I haven’t done cardio in a week

[dire spoke]

rip

only 4 more days to live then

[spare cloud]

rip tom

[sour wasp]

did they fix pb or nah?

[sour wasp]

always has a meme ready

so it's still fucked and never procs?

[vapid moth]

trying to get into wow but it has to go through an update. the update isnt going through claiming that something else is updating but i dont see that something else

and the priority update button isnt doing anything either

[molten flicker]

pb bugged?

lol

[supple hearth]

@vapid moth i get that all the time. go and pause updates in every other bnet game

[sour wasp]

pretty sure i got a pull yesterday with 0 pb's

same on the dummy

[vapid moth]

i have only one other bnet game and its not updating

[molten flicker]

use finishers

[sour wasp]

was told here that it indeed is fucked

[supple hearth]

pause them anyway

[sour wasp]

guess i was trolled

[vapid moth]

pb is working fine

[molten flicker]

pb is not bugged

[verbal root]

for some reason I always have like one PB on first boss in ToS every single week

[dire spoke]

why is this a thing somebody would care about?

in general

[supple hearth]

which

[vapid moth]

well this is annoying

[supple hearth]

@vapid moth like i said....i get it every update. I have to go in and pause eevry other game even if i dont play it

[vapid moth]

there is nothing running on the other games though. cant pause if nothing exists

[jovial kite]

delete system 32 just in case

[supple hearth]

if it says its in q for update because something else is being updated - either something else really is being updated and you need to figure out which it is - or its a tech error and just tech support it i guess'

[drifting cloud]

its always that dumb agent.exe

that does that

[supple hearth]

like 100% of the time this happens to me its usually overwatch or some dumb game i dont even have installed being updated

so i have to go manually pause it/take it out of the update q

[jovial kite]

it can also be an issue with 2x agents

shutdown battle.net

and shut down any battlenet agent afterwards if there are still ones running

or blizzard agent

cant remember the name -.-

[lone junco]

Pb chance is bad for people with shit crit. It's not just a blind lottery.

But let's all blame RNGesus.

And number of triggers is diff than overall damage.

[vapid moth]

well now its going

[shrewd oriole]

Pb is bugged

[shrewd oriole]

Pb is uber bugged

It only procs if you’ve killed antoran high command

[sour wasp]

oof

FoK for the last cp or nah?

[dire spoke]

that's a question we never read here whew

[sour wasp]

yeah right

i remember somebody asking it but i don't remember the answer

[dire spoke]

this program has a search function

but also the guide says 4+

[blazing ocean]

am i able to solo soak the group aoe on last boss eoa with cheat death

+24

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole probably shouldn't tell people "it's in the guide" considering you said you never read it

[dire spoke]

@shrewd night time for raid soon

[shrewd night]

What do you mean

WHO CHANGED MY NAME 😠

[dire spoke]

lol

it' sunday no?

[shrewd night]

Yeah, but its still three hours left

[dire spoke]

🙄

[steep obsidian]

what did Tom do?

[turbid harbor]

@blazing ocean yes

[steep obsidian]

to anger notter

[blazing ocean]

thanks man

[shrewd night]

Probably the same thing that warranted me changing my name despite not being offensive 🤷

[fathom lynx]

According to the guide, we should use toxic blade on cooldown. Is this true even if I mismanage my CP:s and energy, and toxic blade is off cooldown, should i use it just to boost my DP damage or hold it until I can get an envenom buff and squeeze in a few more envenoms?

[gaunt moat]

what do you mean by mismanage your CP

seems like that's more of an issue than your actual question

[spare cloud]

Notter forced me

[warm parcel]

What would you use if tb was off cd and you had 5 cp

[spare cloud]

Pretty good

Just kidding, I'm gonna change back soon

Was just for talking purposes in voice yesterday

Nice

[sharp viper]

now you're safe from tyra

[spare cloud]

Yes

I feel so much safer now

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat ofc I read it

I was just messing with ya whe. I said that

why wouldn’t I read your beautiful guide

God that was a good bike ride

[spare cloud]

Nice

getting on notters good side

[shrewd oriole]

Ahah

My hair after biking is always hilarious

I look like I’m wearing a clown wig

[shrewd night]

Youre bald

What do you even mean hair

Ive seen your showerpictures!

[shrewd oriole]

Bald btw

[shrewd night]

Tinderlicious btw

[lone junco]

why are you bare ass on your fbk?

[shrewd oriole]

No one in my family is bald

Black don crack

[dire spoke]

dude you look exactly like I thought you would

ahahah

[shrewd oriole]

Lmao

Computers did a simulation of how a rank 7 rogue would look like

The results may shock you...

This isn’t the worst my hair looks

[sharp viper]

soon(TM)

[supple hearth]

b-but youre not swole at all

[jovial kite]

[shrewd oriole]

What the hell

Being flamed by a 40 year old black man

[lone junco]

https://giphy.com/gifs/republican-bill-oreilly-ron-paul-gVoBC0SuaHStq

[dire spoke]

IRL pics

[shrewd oriole]

@sharp viper is that a picture of the brain space you need to dot all adds on argus

[sour wasp]

you're much more of a broom than i am @shrewd oriole

[shrewd oriole]

Nah I’ve got that jewfro

@supple hearth i don’t appreciate these memes at my expense

😠

[lone junco]

fro intact

[sharp viper]

nah, you are the broom victor and tom can be used to mop

[lone junco]

feelsgood

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[supple hearth]

posts irl picture
doesnt enjoy memes at his expense that result from posting irl picture

[shrewd oriole]

Mop, cuz rogues are good at soaking

❤ I was just joking

Don’t say I’m not swole tho I’ll fight you

[supple hearth]

jokes are half truths little one

[strange python]

the mage tower challenge is tilting me so hard ::(

[supple hearth]

for assassination?

[sour wasp]

mage tower in 2018

[supple hearth]

its the 2nd easiest one in the game

[sharp viper]

which one is easier?

[supple hearth]

behind the ww/disc one

[shrewd oriole]

What’s easier?

Ah fair sure

Prot Pala one is very

Brb gonna bike a bit more

Also

[strange python]

(something) in 2018 memes bobys.

[sharp viper]

well it is the easier rogue one for sure

[strange python]

boys*

[supple hearth]

assassination is like 95% doing mechanics and 5% dps

[lone junco]

my grapma sweater swag

that green lunch box is totally a man purse

[sour wasp]

that hand in the pocket with the thumb out pose

[spare cloud]

No matter how you look dont post pics of yourself on rh

unless you want to get memed for years

[sour wasp]

i like to be memed

[sharp viper]

what else beside of food would you pack into your man purse anyways?

[sour wasp]

thats why my ugly face is for everyone to see

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth

[jovial kite]

then we have swagtor

[spare cloud]

Horny

[jovial kite]

betamax tom

not even close to peak performance

[shrewd oriole]

Alpha chad

[sour wasp]

that tricep is invisible

[shrewd oriole]

What do you know about being alpha you Finnish mofo

[sharp viper]

the only thing alpha about you is your bfa ptr access

[lone junco]

hes like 6'5

[spare cloud]

[shrewd oriole]

Your women go gay due to lack of supply

[jovial kite]

idk i think im on a whore nother level, 35 centimeters above your alpha peak

[spare cloud]

Slagg is tiny af

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but

CAN

YOU

LIFT

[jovial kite]

i could lift you and spin you like a hula hoop

[lone junco]

rl pix

doge

[sharp viper]

🐕

[shrewd oriole]

Cute doge

[astral sundial]

hey, got my boots and wrists today - went to raidbot, and the result I got was to use boots and shoulders. Should I trust that? I assumed wrists would be BiS in every secenario. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nuCZaPvYvr1KSXnSbfZph7

[lone junco]

bad breath for an old man.

@astral sundial depends. and they are find.

[spare cloud]

dont go shoulders and boots

[supple hearth]

disclaimer: I cannot protect you from memes if you post ur irl picture here. Do it at your own risk. Also don't get upset when people make memes out of you.

[sharp viper]

depends on the fight length

[lone junco]

lesson in sims inc

[supple hearth]

also RIP noobe deleted his pic before i could meme it

[spare cloud]

Tom probably enjoys the memes

hes masochistic like that

[lone junco]

damn that sim report only runs the top for html.

[jovial kite]

typical attentionwhore

if you need validation from rh

you're a betamax cuck

[spare cloud]

Slaggjack picking his targets and ripping them apart

[astral sundial]

@sharp viper we are on progress now, would be tough to make a call on fight length (1/11m, trying for 3/11 tonight)

[lone junco]

@astral sundial 0.5% isnt the end of the world. if you sim a short fight like 3min you will likely see a diff outcome. most run shoulder bracer, or bracer boot.

[sharp viper]

@astral sundial mythic progress? you can check logs from other rogues on warcraftlogs and get a rough estimate for the bossfight time window, most of which is limited due to transitions or rage timers anyways

[lone junco]

but this is the point of simming yourself. You might have shit offspec boots. leading to orange better

[sour wasp]

@astral sundial how many MA relics do you have?

[astral sundial]

only 1 victor (could have gotten 2 but didn't have boots then : ( )

thanks for all the good advices - I would try to change fight length in simulation

anyone got a rough estimate for how long after vanish mantle is still good? (for example, if the fight is exactly 2 minutes I assume mantle is terrible, but 2 minutes 5 seconds it would be amazing again)

[lone junco]

@astral sundial bracers are going to be better in any fight with more than 1 target. and also, on ST when your dps in raid die, it will extend execute time. So bracers are again better than boots.

sims are +/- 20% of fight time i beleive

soo the 5min is 4-6mins

[jovial kite]

@lone junco tyrion is alpha as fuck though

[lone junco]

you think that he thinks that you think hes alpha, but thats as misguided as a land war in asia.

I havent watched the show yet, but book is good.

[jovial kite]

if anyone else was in his shoes theyd be dead

[lone junco]

numerous times.