assassination

[heavy plover]

so getting a few tips always helps

[strange python]

u will have fun on kin garoth

there are those adds with 100% dmg buff

they come up every 2 minutes

[heavy plover]

yeah i've seen on HC it's really fun

[strange python]

and vanish has 2 min cd

with shoulders

booom

[heavy plover]

big dick deepz

[strange python]

yea, i held all my cds for these big boys when we progressed the boss

nightstalker speced i once did a 14 mil env crit or sth

[heavy plover]

lmao, nice

[strange python]

g2g, gl on your raiding, see ya

[heavy plover]

yeah man, thanks for the advice. You too!

[shrewd oriole]

Wholesome assa chat

😃

[tame cobalt]

if using shoulders and wrist on kinga, do you hold vendeta for adds every time?

[zealous dew]

use boots

mantle boots, hold vendetta for 1st add then it's boss add boss add etc

[tame cobalt]

alright, gotcha, ty

[shrewd oriole]

@tame cobalt depends on your como

Comp

You don’t have to use boots

On progress I held vendetta for 1st adds

But it depends on how quickly they die

Bracers are insanely powerful in certain comps

[tame cobalt]

they die right before buff expires more or less

[shrewd oriole]

That’s quite slow

Does your third add live for long?

[tame cobalt]

not realy

we got like 5 monks i think

[shrewd oriole]

Wait

[zealous dew]

lul 5 monks

[shrewd oriole]

Who goes on your third add

[tame cobalt]

2 monks

sham

two palas

[shrewd oriole]

The fuck

What a weird set up

[tame cobalt]

we dont have a real set up

we use what we got

[shrewd oriole]

If third add die quicks you might wanna try boots

[tame cobalt]

is it worth runing boots wrist if they sim as much as shoulder boots?

[shrewd oriole]

Nah

Shoulders are big on that fight

[tame cobalt]

cause i have vanish on every add?

[shrewd oriole]

P much

[tame cobalt]

gotcha

thank you

[shrewd oriole]

No proble

It’s one of those fights that doesn’t favor either boots or bracers over the other

[tame cobalt]

how about vari then? whats best there?

[shrewd oriole]

Shoulders bracers for sure

Well

It’ll depend

Do you have many warriors?

[tame cobalt]

we got 2

[shrewd oriole]

I’d still go bracers

But it’ll depend on kill timer

Vari is mostly about rng tho

[tame cobalt]

why bracers over boots tho? bracers sim lowest out of all combos for me

[shrewd oriole]

Higher ceiling

[zealous dew]

play what sim highest

[shrewd oriole]

No lol

For someone who doesn’t raid you have a lot of opinions xd

[zealous dew]

yeah I do have

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/0232b701bdebc69dd941f950554914db

[supple hearth]

did u do ur daily bg

[jovial kite]

everything done

[shrewd oriole]

Rip

[supple hearth]

you capped 2s,3s, and rbgs?

[jovial kite]

yes

[supple hearth]

madman

[jovial kite]

well rbgs no

and dont intend to

[shrewd oriole]

😦

Casual

Is that on your rogue?

[strange python]

yo yo yo yo

[shrewd oriole]

I gave up farming on my rogue just cuz I got 3 shaman leggos in a row

And at that point I pondered suicide

[supple hearth]

@jovial kite rbgs are easy though. and you only need like 2-3 games

[drifting cloud]

brawl gives 30 aswell

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth isn’t it 2-3 victories?

[supple hearth]

it depends. U can get it in 2 victorys. 3 is usually the sweet spot if youre not winning

[jovial kite]

@supple hearth i mean its not that they are hard

just cba

[shrewd oriole]

Is it on your rogue tho @jovial kite

😠

[gaunt moat]

so, does anyone have vermin tide 2?
i got it yesterday, looking for a group to play with 🙂

[vernal adder]

just waiting for the ssd I ordered, my another one dont have space for that game. So, I might buy vermintide

[tawny nova]

hi guys im new to assassination

which 4 set should i target

[strange python]

t21

[tawny nova]

i meant gloves head etc

[supple hearth]

not having an ssd in 2018 smh @vernal adder

[spare cloud]

@tawny nova 📌

[dire spoke]

uff

[zealous dew]

@tawny nova avoid shoulders

[shrewd oriole]

@tawny nova it’s gonna depend heavily on your off pieces. The only tierpiece you really don’t want is shoulders. The other 5 you can interchange depending on what off pieces you have / ilvl of your tier etc

For example, @dire spoke has 985 tier gloves which means that he most likely will have trouble finding a combination of gear that will give better results than say, tier gloves helm chest cloak and off piece shoulders and pants

[calm grail]

Where is my bis list?

God.

[shrewd oriole]

Same goes for me with my chest, I have a 975 chest which means that section is pretty much static, leaving me with 4 slots to around with.

@calm grail

One time I went into bdk discord

Cuz I had heard they were specially cunty about it

And asked for bdk bis list

Lemme quote you the answers I got

“You fucking retard go play bear tank, someone as dumb as you who doesn’t understand why bis lists in legion aren’t realistic shouldn’t play blood dk”

AMR spy pls

Rogue discord toxic btw

[dire spoke]

@shrewd oriole if you loot some 985 tier head you effing give them to me

[supple hearth]

@shrewd oriole that reply would never happen here. I'd put an end to them

[vapid moth]

I've given some nasty an answers but nothing as bad as that

[cold spoke]

im using 5set because it sims highest

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth yeah at least in rogue discord we are sarcastic about our insults

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

So many good offpieces This tier lol

[gilded latch]

Hey so I'm kinda confused on what to do in aoe standpoint do I fan of knives and apply rupture or envemon because I'm in a poison build

[shrewd oriole]

rupture up to 3 mobs

after that just fok envenom

[gilded latch]

Does it matter which mob I en venom or does it have to be the ones that are ruptured?

[shrewd oriole]

envenom your primary target

[gilded latch]

Ok thanks

Just 1 more question so I am taking nightstalker do I only vanish for like 1 second or do I wait until all the buffs are about to go down

Like for boss fights

[spare cloud]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

I'm afraid I dont understand the question mate

can u please rephrase

@quick talon would be able to answer

[dire spoke]

WHAT ARE WE DOING

whew

@shrewd oriole we pugging tomorrow? would be np

[spare cloud]

What happens if you pull immonar back to the bridge he came from?

[shrewd oriole]

@dire spoke dunno but we doing poe now

[placid egret]

I wonder how lasers would work.

[shrewd oriole]

he has an enrage mechanic

if he's not on a platform

[dire spoke]

ez, I walk nm with some mates then 😄

I dumped all my brain in this WAs anyway

fucking IQ400 garrote tracking

[spare cloud]

1 if you're lucky

well thats unlucky

Xavius shoulders arent worth the time anyways

[shrewd oriole]

I got it through the

what it's face

argunite shit

[jovial kite]

got xav shoulders on 1st m kill

wanted to be a douche, went to trade saying wts first satyr spaulders

got like instantly 20 whispers

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[jovial kite]

went to trade saying

[lethal heart]

xavius shoulders is probably only good thing about xavius

[jovial kite]

cenarius +100 pulls

xavius 7

nice endboss blizz

the only challenging thing about xavius was fps, even though the place was literally only blakc

[lethal heart]

its good they tried to make up for that with fuckd up kil jaeden

haHAA

[jovial kite]

kj was fine except for the last phase

which was heroic

[lethal heart]

kj was just bad boss design imo

[jovial kite]

i mean only thing changing were pillar # on last phase

[lethal heart]

most of the fight revolves around soaking small puddles

[jovial kite]

and in darkness phase all you needed was people in each corner calling if the ball came to them

then have ppl port or personal regardless

[lethal heart]

yea that was the idea

but people had different ideas ^^

that was blizzard's idea*

probably

[jovial kite]

i mean random ball placement in dark phase is pretty fucking hc

[lethal heart]

true

[jovial kite]

you need most of your group to have personal to deal with knockback

or have a solid rng

to have the balls in opposite sides each time until adds are dead

[lethal heart]

or have warlock gate

LUL

[jovial kite]

yeah but that saves only once

[dire spoke]

@gusty kestrel

this took me way to long

[lethal heart]

@jovial kite idk how quick you got to kj and how you handled that yourself

but that phase took like 5 seconds because ravager + massgrip and stuff

but i'm pretty sure when world firsts were done they couldnt be gripped or massgripped

so that was problematic for sure

[viscid helm]

the phase was rremoved after 10 kills

on mythic

[jovial kite]

@lethal heart yes when we did it it was grip vortex gg

i was talking prenerf

[viscid helm]

literally scuffed race change

if gateway didnt work on the ball knockback

dont think KJ would have been possible

[lethal heart]

true

[somber cipher]

OCEAN MAN

[lethal heart]

especially they inteded to 5 heal that fight

[somber cipher]

TAKE ME BY THE HAND

[lethal heart]

because there were 5 healer adds

wasnt that 5?

[viscid helm]

cant remember

[lethal heart]

i think it was 5, but maybe im wrong

[viscid helm]

but 80% of the classes only survived the darkness phase because of gateway

since you needed to survive 2 balls

[lethal heart]

no no no

DRAUGHT OF SOULS

and goblin

LUL

but yea i agree

without warlock gate

probably impossible

but my warrior is actually a goblin

i have to say

that jump thingie is addictive

[quick coral]

@gaunt moat supsup 😃

[gaunt moat]

Hi

[quick coral]

got bfa invite yet?

[gaunt moat]

Yes

[calm grail]

Can I have it?

[quick coral]

kinda jelly tbh :/

any testings done yet? ik its like 6 months until release but the info might gonna point us somewhere

[gaunt moat]

Just got it yesterday didn't get to do much yet

[quick coral]

dafuq?

[vestal wren]

oh i thought you where in before 🤔

late alpha is way more intressting

there are currently so many work in progress things as well as bugs

[shrewd oriole]

3 dungeons

[vestal wren]

you have 2 areas and 3 doungeons

[safe matrix]

Tom are you actually swole or no

Important question

[vestal wren]

but the neck is not out yet, there is a very annoying camera bug, random crashes, etc

[hexed citrus]

hey mates, i just have one quick question: i play Sin with Subterfuge and I read the ravenhold.com Sin guide to check the opener with Subterfuge. My Question now is : why do I start the opener in stealth with Garrote, mutilate etc. instead of Stealth, Garrote, Garrote mutilate. it would make the empowered Garrote last 23 seconds instead of 17 ?

[vestal wren]

also most classes are unfinished on alpha, so expect more changes (at least i heard that some are rly bad to play atm)

[shrewd oriole]

@safe matrix I'm the guy in the pic 😉

😗

[safe matrix]

Meh/10

[vestal wren]

the pic doesent show much

[safe matrix]

I'm not an expert on sin, but garrote is a massive energy dump

It's probably not worth it to cast it twice for the extra 5 second of buffed garrote

Cause it'll delay the rest of your abilities by a lot

Cause it only generates the one point

[hexed citrus]

that makes no sence... we start with 150 energie, 2x garrote takes 90, mutilate and rupture don't take alot and then we use vendetta,TB and KB ???? so why care about the energie we use? just curious

[quick coral]

that makes sence if ur talking about maybe a 20 sec encounter

[safe matrix]

🤷 I play with mantle so I should've let someone else answer that

[vapid moth]

just downloaded WA. can someone walk me through it

[safe matrix]

Just offering some possible reasoning ._.

[vapid moth]

youre supposed to use garrote as a filler. for the most part.

[lost horizon]

@hexed citrus you open with single garrote cause you vanish later in opener

[hexed citrus]

@lost horizon with subterfuge i can garrote 2x because it has no cd. i can still vanish later in the opener

[lost horizon]

Waste of energy/gcd

[safe matrix]

Wait, how does garrote get buffed without ns

[lost horizon]

You'll still pandemic in your vanish

@safe matrix he's talking subt

[hexed citrus]

45 energy for 6 seconds empowered garrote?

[safe matrix]

^

He's saying empowered

[lost horizon]

6 seconds that will get overwritten by your vanish anyway

[safe matrix]

But ns is the only think that snaps right?

[hexed citrus]

it does deal 125% increased damage

[lost horizon]

Subterfuge gives you buffed garrote if applied 3sec after stealth

Also 0cd for 3sec after stealth

It snapshots

[safe matrix]

Kk learning new things cool

Cause I never did subt

I've only ever played ns

[hexed citrus]

so double Garrote would give me 6 seconds longer Garrote who is increased by 125%. spending 45 energy more for it ain't that much ?!

[strange python]

ahaha

"sence"

"c"

[hexed citrus]

I'm sorry.. I'm from germany, I'm afraid my English is a bit rusty.

my bad.

[lost horizon]

You still get the pandemic from your vanish refresh later

[silk sundial]

What sim do most people use?

[safe matrix]

Raidbots

[vernal adder]

@supple hearth I have a ssd, need a 2nd one

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/ipf9z1

this is truly an high IQ party

[turbid harbor]

empowering another 6s of garrote is not worth the global

you want to get up rupture asap and use your cds

[warm parcel]

The groups iq squared still below shoe size

[strange python]

wow

weak

also your joke

[indigo cradle]

Dead game until BFA, so this dead channel

[eager kernel]

https://gyazo.com/77b718f09b8f39d11325758a1820efda why cant i get this on my main

[sharp viper]

bcz you touch yourself at night and you use gyazo

[empty hound]

what is the soft cap for assasination rogue? just looking at a good % to stop stacking

[warm parcel]

dude listen

There isnt one

We arent a shadow priest with x and y stat caps

We arent a fire mage with soft crit caps

There isnt a magic number

[empty hound]

ok so just max it out basically

[warm parcel]

What I just said 🤔

[viscid helm]

140% seems solid

[empty hound]

kk thanks

[calm grail]

🌭

[civic palm]

🥜

[vapid moth]

i got a 950 EoC

[placid egret]

Neat

[jovial kite]

i got one too

6k dps worse than 970 ssf

so i need a 955+

[vapid moth]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[vapid moth]

i currently have 945 ssf

[placid egret]

I got a 960 socketed

[frigid acorn]

can i sim talent ring with raidbots?

[vestal wren]

yes

[vapid moth]

thats basically a 955 ssf

[dire remnant]

does garrote silence the enemy in pvp if i have subterfuge and use it after an opener

like am i still considered in stealth for that 3 second subterfuge window such that garrote would silence

[placid egret]

For that 3 second window any garrote will silence.

[dire remnant]

oh sick

[faint sleet]

which add should assass be on for argus?

nature or physical?

[shrewd oriole]

Nature

[faint sleet]

ty

[sharp viper]

bleed goes physical first, poison goes nature - don't be afraid to multidot if possible tho

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t multi dot lol

Unless adds are top of each other

[sharp viper]

well they should be unless your tanks are afk

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but they might not be stacked on top of the add you’re dpsing

Lol

[dire remnant]

open on physical get bleeds up, rupture the one mob on the way to the nature add, then go ham with vendetta on nature add

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

100% of the time

And no one else is dpsing them xd

@dire remnant then you get to the nature and your shit isn’t up

Lmao

Gotta spend time putting dots up holding your cds OR gotta spend vendetta time putting shit up

It’s aids

Don’t multi dot

Phys add is always 1st one to die anyways

[sharp viper]

after your vendetta tb kb comp on the nature add you can easily dot targets within 15 yards

[shrewd oriole]

But why

Why apply bleeds when the add takes 100% increase nature damage

Lmao

That’s actually terrible, jesus

You don’t wanna refresh bleeds during TB, a 30 or whatever % nature damage increas

Let alone a fuckkk 100%

That’s just wrong

I don’t even run around multi dotting AFTER the add dies cuz you lose so much uptime

Let alone DURING

That actually tilted me

[sharp viper]

so you just stick to a single target until it dies? lol

[shrewd night]

...Yes?

[shrewd oriole]

??????????? Yes ????????????

It

Takes

100%

[viscid helm]

1 envenom on nature add

[shrewd oriole]

Increased damage

[viscid helm]

is gonna do more than ur rupture

on some other target

[shrewd oriole]

I’m trying really hard not to be toxic here

But na

Man*

You’re tilting me

[sharp viper]

and why would you not multidot after nature add is dead?

[shrewd oriole]

You can but it’s not necessarily a gain

Cuz it’s a lot of down time

[shrewd night]

The time it takes for you to spread rupture three times (ie, making it worth it) you have lost what. 15 seconds on one add?

[shrewd oriole]

I multi dot if nature is dead and my targets are stacked

If they aren’t, you’re better off not multi dotting

Same thing in hounds..

Do you run around multi dotting hounds lmao

[civic palm]

On Heroic... sure.

Cuz... boredom.

[shrewd oriole]

Oh god

Fucking shadow priest wanna be xd

[viscid helm]

i multidot transition adds on Aggramar mythic

🙃

[civic palm]

ha

[sharp viper]

okay are you spamming poison knife or how the hell does it take you 15 seconds to multidot 3 adds

[shrewd oriole]

I focus holy light on aggra mythic

[orchid prawn]

why would you not mut -> rupture -> shadowstep aggramar adds

[shrewd night]

It was an example. So let me spell it out for you. Its a loss. No matter what you are convinced of.

[shrewd oriole]

@sharp viper time Yourself multi dotting 3 adds on argus

Please

Time yourself.

Either way, you’re wrong

Feel free to keep doing it

[viscid helm]

no u

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t mind free percentiles on my parses

@orchid prawn we are talking argus here mate

[viscid helm]

I also rupture Varimathras adds

on mythic

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

I rupture all the imps on portal keeper

In fact lemme one up you

I rupture all the dogs on eonar

[orchid prawn]

@shrewd oriole i multidot transition adds on Aggramar mythic
🙃

[viscid helm]

[orchid prawn]

that flowi said

[viscid helm]

how else do you think i do 3M on aggra

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t bother, doesn’t count for all stars LUL

[sour wasp]

is assa bugged? i got no poison bombs on a pull

[sharp viper]

well i honestly don't care about the heroic parses, feel free to enjoy less competition if i am wrong

[sour wasp]

literally 0

[sharp viper]

blizzard is trying to fix that bug

[shrewd oriole]

🤔

LUL

actually laughed so loud

[sour wasp]

sorry i don't track blue posts you fuck

[orchid prawn]

gold

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth

[sharp viper]

your poison bomb proc rate is directly proportional to your skill as a rogue player

[shrewd oriole]

Pls help

[orchid prawn]

when the obvious bait works 😩

[viscid helm]

so this is why my PB is only 3%

every fight

[shrewd night]

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[civic palm]

Well you instigated you shitter.

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

As if assa requires skill

[civic palm]

We're not Boomkin.

[shrewd oriole]

Well I guess it requires basic logic as you need to understand not to multi dot on argus

[sharp viper]

alacrity=more haste=more energy=more cp builders and finisher=more pb

[shrewd oriole]

Assa is as easy as boomie

[civic palm]

Haste/Mastery dream :3

[orchid prawn]

more pb = more fun = better

[shrewd oriole]

Actually it’s easier id say

🤷

[civic palm]

Boomkin is mindnumbingly dull,.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah and assa isn’t

Lots of depth btw

[viscid helm]

WoW 2k18

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[viscid helm]

[civic palm]

Oh so it 's either a 0... or a 100.

SIN at least gives me SOMETHING to track.

[viscid helm]

Tom

can you level already

[shrewd oriole]

What about moonfire

[civic palm]

That's they're fucking builder.

[shrewd oriole]

I’ll level tomorrow, the guy isn’t online

[civic palm]

So you track Mutilate?

[orchid prawn]

b-but if you talent you have THREE dots to keep up

[shrewd oriole]

Not anymore

[orchid prawn]

advanced shit

[sharp viper]

gotta max pandemic uptime on moonfire, brah

[shrewd oriole]

Not after the nerf

Cmon mize

[civic palm]

It wasn't THAT bad was it ?

[shrewd oriole]

Wait is it still

[molten flicker]

guys

what the fuck is this

[shrewd oriole]

I thought it wasn’t atmore

Anyways

[civic palm]

I would hope not.

[shrewd oriole]

Boomie is harder than assa

[orchid prawn]

Clap

[civic palm]

?

[shrewd oriole]

Not a bad relic

[dire remnant]

is frost dk/sin rogue or frost dk/sub rogue better for 3s u guys think?

[shrewd oriole]

#pvp

Not here

[civic palm]

945 GET OUTA HERE

[molten flicker]

how can the mos not be on the way to pk

[shrewd oriole]

Why do you want pk

Crige

[viscid helm]

mos is bad

[shrewd oriole]

Cringe*

[civic palm]

Criiiiiiiiiiiiige

[sharp viper]

what tom said #pvp will be a better place for this kinda question

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t tell me you play

[molten flicker]

I need to replace this shit

[shrewd oriole]

Assa on m+

[shrewd oriole]

Cringe

Why do you need to replace that

That’s bis

[civic palm]

Why...

replace it?

_>

[sharp viper]

outlaw in m+ or gtfo

[shrewd oriole]

I prefer B.B. over mass anyway

[molten flicker]

I dont want either

[shrewd oriole]

Why

What the hell

[civic palm]

BACK TO OUTLAW

Get out!!

[shrewd oriole]

Please leave this chat

😠

[molten flicker]

malch/mos/pk thx

[civic palm]

This nerd is a malch/pk weeb > _>

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine doing m+ as assa

Gigalul

[viscid helm]

imagine doing m+

in 2k18

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[orchid prawn]

imagine playing the game lul

[civic palm]

Imagine gimping yourself into oblivion to perform worse than a 940 arms warrior.

[molten flicker]

o_o

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine when the non toxic non elitist guy flames your spec choice

[sharp viper]

come on, those don't exist anymore

arms warrior are just made up, fiction to scare current raiders

[shrewd oriole]

Arms is great in dungeons

Lmao

[molten flicker]

I did a 21 eoa today with a 970 arms warrior

[shrewd oriole]

Far better than assa

[molten flicker]

he did 3.7m overall

I did 3.7 too

[civic palm]

WHAT A M O N S T E R

Didn't even have to press buttons.

SO GOOD.

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[civic palm]

WW sometimes.

3.7M

[strange python]

https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/

[civic palm]

ok

[shrewd oriole]

Thanks dude

[sharp viper]

well you only need to pray for procs during big pulls

[shrewd oriole]

I really needed that hero damage link

[civic palm]

When the warrior has a WW attached to a stick.

Speaking of Windwalkers... that's a dumb spec.

[shrewd oriole]

How so?

[sharp viper]

where can one aquire such a ww on a stick? are they available on daggers as well?

[shrewd oriole]

You saying it’s easy?

[civic palm]

Dumb as in ridiculous.

[shrewd oriole]

Nah

It’s overtuned

And it’s got ridiculous tier

[civic palm]

Yep.

[shrewd oriole]

Watch next expansion

When they go back to mediocrity

[sharp viper]

15% aura increase to compensate for t19 nerf OMEGALUL

[shrewd oriole]

As they’ve been pretty much every tier

[civic palm]

atm they look fine in BfA with the whack stats.

[shrewd oriole]

Since introduction

[civic palm]

But that's like, too fucking early to matter.

They didn't lose much, is what I mean.

[shrewd oriole]

Just look at their performance

Historically

[civic palm]

👍

[shrewd oriole]

It’s really bad

:/

Imagine being a WW in wod

Being shit every single toer

Tier*

Except for heroic week on HM

lul

[civic palm]

lol

[civic palm]

Gonna need some C O N T E X T

[shrewd oriole]

I’m fine with giving the wheel chair kid a week of being good

It’s basically one of those make a wish foundation type actions

[civic palm]

They have a pretty nice ♿ as well.

[orchid prawn]

ye i enjoy seeing our WW near the top

[sour wasp]

ww in bfa lul

[shrewd oriole]

Can’t be rogues all expansion

Gotta share

Imagine luling to anything after asking if PB is bugged

[civic palm]

Can't be Fury entire... tier... mmm

[sour wasp]

didnt rogues suck dps wise in raids for the entirety of legion?

[shrewd oriole]

What

[civic palm]

No...

[solid nova]

Lol

[shrewd oriole]

Jesus Christ

[civic palm]

Not even kinda.

[shrewd oriole]

Can you

[sharp viper]

https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/pve-stats/classes shitty website but it has some graphs about class distribution, i would like to see some better comparison (dps spec representation instead of all specs available to classes being included)

[civic palm]

wargraphs

haha

[sour wasp]

or did i just open some noxxic link to see it

lul

[shrewd oriole]

I feel like your brain runs on noxxic links

[civic palm]

You opened a gateway into some idiots mind.

Some strange, parallel dimension, where nothing makes any sense.

A door into the Twilight Zone.

[feral flare]

So are Void Elves still best for Rogues or has that been nerfed? Hero Damage says human, but its not been updated with the new races it seems.

[shrewd oriole]

A dimension where pb is bugged

[civic palm]

Never were best for Rogues.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd oriole]

@feral flare yeah it was

Void elf was never bis

[sharp viper]

if noxxic says rogues are shit, well i guess that's it then

[civic palm]

Where are people getting their fucking information?

[flint fable]

do it no balls lol

[civic palm]

Official Forums?

[shrewd oriole]

Their ass

[feral flare]

was? or is? Because I was thinking about changing races.

[shrewd oriole]

It isn’t

[civic palm]

Velf never was.

[shrewd oriole]

It neve was

[civic palm]

and might be in the future.

[sour wasp]

the waegraphs still shoes assa among the middle and sub and outlaw suckin dick

[civic palm]

Cuz anything could change.

[sour wasp]

shows*

[shrewd oriole]

Velf was is and as far as we know will be shit

[feral flare]

I thought their racial was a straight dps bonus.

[sharp viper]

herodamage is updated with the new races, what are you on about

[shrewd oriole]

But

Every

Race

Has a dps

Passive

??

Yeah it is a dps bonus

[civic palm]

Even +VERS is a DPS increase.

[shrewd oriole]

It’s not a bigger bonus than other races

[civic palm]

Velf is completely out of our control.

and procs to w/e the fuck it wants.

[feral flare]

Im Worgen at the moment. But im glad I asked. Id.. rather not switch : /

[sharp viper]

human + secondary stats or dwarf +crit dmg will outscale a tiny dps increase

[shrewd oriole]

Worgen

[civic palm]

a tiny, unncontrollable dps increase

[sour wasp]

like my cock

[civic palm]

It might not even fucking increase your DPS.

[sour wasp]

wat

[sharp viper]

but race only matters if you want to raid competitively (aka high end)

[feral flare]

It was being talked about on MMOchamp and Ive been seeing more and more Void elves lately. But that clears that up, lol.

[civic palm]

and then the non-DPS racials matter more.

[sharp viper]

play what is fun or pretty for you

[sour wasp]

mmochamp in 2018

[shrewd oriole]

Better than noxxic

Lol

[civic palm]

MMOC is fine just don't go to their forums.

[shrewd oriole]

Their forums are fine

Just toxic

Like every online forum.

[feral flare]

I went to their forums...

[civic palm]

I mean they're better than the WoW Forums SURE.

[sharp viper]

void elves are pretty and edgy, people like their visuals and them being something new, so no surprise they are on the rise

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

They’re elves

People like elves

[civic palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp viper]

mmo forums are a dark place, you should never go there

[shrewd oriole]

People like female belfs so ofc they’re gonna like female velfs

[civic palm]

SO PURPLE!!

P U R P L E

[feral flare]

I am getting into mythic raiding. 2/11 at the moment. Should I consider changing to human/dwarf at some point?

[sharp viper]

nothing as sexy as male elves tho

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine being alliance in 2018

[sour wasp]

but still,the wargraphs shows assa sorta in the middle and sub and outlaw suckin massive penis around the bottom,how could you say rogues don't suck cock?

[civic palm]

No you playing better matters more than w/e character choice you are going to make.

[shrewd oriole]

@feral flare if you’re 2/11 your race isn’t gonna be the difference

[civic palm]

WTF is this wargraphs?

Where is the data from?

What is it charting in context?

[sour wasp]

somebody linked it

[civic palm]

Why do they matter over the ACTUAL LOGS?

[sour wasp]

like 2 mins ago

[orchid prawn]

Last Database Update : 11 Mar 2018 - Players with 6/11 or more bosses killed in Mythic mode (T21)

[sour wasp]

ecksdee

[civic palm]

That's nice. Not gonna look at some random website.

[orchid prawn]

prob from blizz api

[feral flare]

Well I mean like later on when that extra percentage might matter..

[shrewd oriole]

Doesn’t matter

[civic palm]

Doesn't

Can't even.

[shrewd oriole]

It really does

[orchid prawn]

but that's just what people are playing, not what's good

i'd still play rogue if it was dogshit the last tier

[shrewd oriole]

The only race that is actually impactful is belf in m+

Nothing else is gonna make a massive difference for rogue

[civic palm]

or some racial to cheese a boss.

[shrewd oriole]

For rogue

[sour wasp]

ok so link is wack,stop linking shit that makes no sense in here,normies

[shrewd oriole]

We aren’t priests

[civic palm]

WHITE

BACKGROUND

[sour wasp]

look at that hot guy

[shrewd oriole]

Normies

[civic palm]

MONGOL

[shrewd oriole]

Your forehead screams 30 your hair screams 12

[sharp viper]

most racials are just impactful in #pvp

[sour wasp]

lmfao

[shrewd oriole]

Your emoji use screams reddit

[sour wasp]

emoji?

[civic palm]

done deal

don't go there

"shitty website" 😛

[sour wasp]

wut

[civic palm]

wtf is that line?

[sour wasp]

how is that reddit

[civic palm]

?

[sour wasp]

wtf is happening

[shrewd oriole]

Editing

[sharp viper]

the one i linked and mize just posted

[shrewd oriole]

LOL

[civic palm]

HA

[molten flicker]

@gusty kestrel

[orchid prawn]

@gusty kestrel THE WARGRAPH ONE https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/pve-stats/classes

[shrewd oriole]

AHAHAHAH TISUMI

THAT WAS SO GOOD

Jesus

That was glorious

are racials even big in pvp anymore?

I knew they were in wod obviously

[civic palm]

Belf sure

[shrewd oriole]

Ah

[sour wasp]

meanwhile tom has pecs as an avatar

[viscid helm]

1% crit

[sour wasp]

ecksdee

[supple hearth]

@feral flare race is like....34k dps increase max. Out of several millions of dps thats nothing. Up to you on whether or not its worth basically a dollar per damage for u lol

[viscid helm]

[shrewd oriole]

Belf is overpowered

[sharp viper]

yes, human, orc and blood elf racials are a big deal in pvp, rest don't really matter

[shrewd oriole]

@supple hearth imagine being an arcane mage where troll is 90k dps

LUL

[supple hearth]

imagine being an arcane mage 🤢

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t you play outlaw and do pvp?

You can’t really talk

[civic palm]

ecksdee

[sharp viper]

just blink away from your troubles if you are arcane mage 🤷

[shrewd oriole]

Ecksdee recked GGX gang

XD

[orchid prawn]

i tried arcane, then i realised i had to be melee to aoe as ranged - i'm not a smart man

[shrewd oriole]

haHAA

[sour wasp]

xD

12 btw

[feral flare]

Thanks Giggleblush. Yeah its been cleared up for me. Im staying Worgen... I like Worgen. ... : / waiting for that "model update"

[sour wasp]

gucci gang

[civic palm]

Nevermind Youtuber

[shrewd oriole]

Worgen very much needs a model update dude

Hourglass figure is so 90’s

[supple hearth]

Utility > aesthetics > dps
when it comes to race tbh.

[sharp viper]

@feral flare that is a futile task

[shrewd oriole]

We like thicc bitches

[supple hearth]

would personally never race change for "dps"
For utility or aesthetics yes

[feral flare]

One can dream...

[sour wasp]

tom likes women with pecs

[feral flare]

or change races.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean tisumi

[sharp viper]

orc racial on coven op since your healers will not heal you and you will be stunned forever

[sour wasp]

btw is outlay still a meme?

[shrewd oriole]

Thankfully the most aesthetic race is also the best race

[sour wasp]

nobody answers on the outlaw chat

[shrewd oriole]

Belf

[molten flicker]

no, outlaw has alacrity

[orchid prawn]

outlaw can be good, but why bother

[civic palm]

why would I play ANYTHING else?!

[sharp viper]

sin has alacrity as well

[shrewd oriole]

@civic palm Nice second tier belf

LUL

[civic palm]

LOOK HERE FUCKER

Star daggers.

[sour wasp]

i have bigger tits than that

[civic palm]

That... I wish were more purple.

[sharp viper]

"let me just put on my huge golden shoulder patch and my tiny bikini, .... astral daggers and ready for battle"

[civic palm]

ha

[shrewd oriole]

Tbh

My chest is bigger than thst

As you can see by the pic

I’m SWOLE

[sharp viper]

don't judge dps just by bust size

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[jovial kite]

🤦

[civic palm]

,<

[shrewd oriole]

Assa chat btw

[civic palm]

srsly.

[orchid prawn]

atleast it isn't dead 👌

[supple hearth]

👺

[shrewd oriole]

Men are way easier than women

Real talk

[sour wasp]

its the end of the expac,everybody knows everything,only the memes remain undiscussed

[shrewd oriole]

I’d rather date @viscid helm

[civic palm]

We've like 1/10th the body shame, fuck anything.

[sour wasp]

thats why assa chat is like this

[civic palm]

SIN chat has always been like this.

[shrewd oriole]

He’s low maintenance, plays rogue, plays poe

[civic palm]

For over 2 years.

Nothing has changed other than some idiots have joined.

[sharp viper]

are men really that much easier than women? where you got that information from

[sour wasp]

noxxic

[shrewd oriole]

Easier to deal with

[jovial kite]

??

[civic palm]

Yeah we're not gonna jerk you around.

NOT choose where to eat.

[orchid prawn]

ocassional high alert when a new thing was found, until blizz detected fun and it goes back to normal

[shrewd oriole]

Dunno

Women are high maintenance

[civic palm]

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh

[shrewd oriole]

I’d much prefer to be sexually attracted to men

[civic palm]

Fucking DIE haste.

[shrewd oriole]

Never lucky

How do you have 1%?

[jovial kite]

click tom u gay now

[shrewd oriole]

Pretty sure that’s impossible

[civic palm]

Cause the WoW website is "great".

[shrewd oriole]

Ah

[civic palm]

I have ~2%.

Like everyone else.

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah 2% is what everyone ya s

Has*

Was spooked

[sour wasp]

i have 10%

[civic palm]

You also have a problem.

[sour wasp]

somehow

[civic palm]

It turns out.

[shrewd oriole]

LOL

[sharp viper]

haste will be our friend in bfa, don't hate on it

[orchid prawn]

he's not playing shoulder/bracer, hang him high

[shrewd oriole]

mizerok toxic

[civic palm]

Gear will be replaced by then.

Always :3

[shrewd oriole]

@orchid prawn I mean

Boots have haste

Ring has haste

[civic palm]

No way to get out of ~2% haste as SIN.

[shrewd oriole]

What two leggos have 0 haste?

[orchid prawn]

@gusty kestrel no Mizerok

[sour wasp]

i don't have bracers yet

lmao

[civic palm]

You could lose that haste, and like 100k DPS.

[shrewd oriole]

If you don’t play shoulders bracers you’re a male

[sour wasp]

i play shoulders/ravenholdt

[shrewd oriole]

It’s a fact

[sour wasp]

cuz it sims the best

[shrewd oriole]

Too busy putting hair gel

[orchid prawn]

i play shoulder belt on argus

[cobalt light]

Anyone know any good WA's for assa?

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[orchid prawn]

CAUSE WE CANT MAKE THE P1 DPS CHECK

REEEE

[sharp viper]

i play sub hands outlaw cloak, come at me

[sour wasp]

my hair is sexy af with no maintenance

[shrewd oriole]

@cobalt light guide has a section for was

[sour wasp]

sorry,its just pure genetics

[shrewd oriole]

You’re beta

I wish

[civic palm]

Yeah he wishes.

[sharp viper]

@cobalt light check notters weakauras in the 📌

[sour wasp]

well gayness tends to be genetic though

so i'm not wrong

[supple hearth]

👺

[civic palm]

Oi that's his fucking words.

[orchid prawn]

@gusty kestrel LUL

[shrewd oriole]

What the fuck

[civic palm]

No one is hating anyonr.

[shrewd oriole]

How is being gay genetics

[civic palm]

Tom literally wishes this.

[sharp viper]

oh god i had to laugh at the broom one

[sour wasp]

i did too,i like being cucked

[shrewd oriole]

How is saying being gay is genetics not mutable but using an emoji is

[cobalt light]

Ah there it was, didn't see it. Thanks.

[shrewd oriole]

@cobalt light no problemdude, notters was are great

[civic palm]

Your Genes make you who you are, being gay is part of that.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp viper]

don't anger the giggle 😊 or you will face the giggle 😡

[civic palm]

ha

[orchid prawn]

monkaS

[sour wasp]

tom is gay by choice,he said just said that women are a hassle

[civic palm]

_>"

[sour wasp]

so you could argue

[jovial kite]

well, we knew his gf is a trap

[shrewd oriole]

https://www.strawpoll.me/15243437

I date notter’s brother

Everyone knows that

[supple hearth]

Where is D: all of the above

[sour wasp]

i bet tom voted himself

[shrewd oriole]

Cmon giggle

[civic palm]

He's hammer hungry > _>

[shrewd oriole]

❤

[echo estuary]

well i suppose the perk with having a male lover is that males tend to gravitate straight to the point, no diggity no doubt

[sour wasp]

EleGiggle

[cobalt light]

Okey I'm tired and slightly retarded..

http://www.ravenholdt.net/notters-rogue-weak-auras-compilation/

Can't find the string

[orchid prawn]

you press

the links

with your left mouse button

[sour wasp]

"copy weakaura import string" after clicking the links

[cobalt light]

Yeah clicked the links and ended up on some mistweaver monk thing

[sour wasp]

what?

[orchid prawn]

https://i.imgur.com/ofNM1Dd.png

[sour wasp]

lmao

[orchid prawn]

https://i.imgur.com/wnxrCnU.png

[cobalt light]

Think I figured this out..

Still doesn't look like it's supposed to..

[jovial kite]

victor has more swag than tom

[sour wasp]

ariana grande avatar has spoken towards me

what do?

i'm nervous

[orchid prawn]

reflect on advice, then go get the lawnmover

[sour wasp]

LMAO

@cobalt light what's wrong?

[cobalt light]

Wait I think I'm going to figure this out

Damn man, gotta cut down on the green

[orchid prawn]

you can do it!!!

[sour wasp]

you have it on your ctrl+V after you press the copy thingy

just drop it in WA and you're good to go

[shrewd oriole]

@jovial kite wow...

Tos tomorrow when?

[cobalt light]

That sounds complicated man

[sour wasp]

damn

i got told

"hot girl as my avatar"

[woeful summit]

i have a hot girl as my avatar man, check her out

[sharp viper]

i want an avatar as my hot girl

[orchid prawn]

avatar 2 2020 hype

kappa

[supple hearth]

I also have a hot grill as my avatar

[orchid prawn]

"the first of four planned sequels to his film Avatar"

hot damn

[sharp viper]

your rainbow puking panda has a gender? wow

[unreal robin]

i have a 950 master alchemist for my shadow relic but im trying to get all 3 master assassin relics how many item levels lower generally until its not worth

[calm grail]

AMR take note, Tisumi is a toxic bully.

[sharp viper]

try to sim it, you can't estimate something like that without knowing the gear

[cobalt light]

Lol

[sour wasp]

ariana grande wouldn't like that

[shrewd oriole]

Keep yourself simmed kiddo

[eager hearth]

Old meme

[calm grail]

Because you expect people to sim.

There we go.

Also, give him a bestinslot list too.

[eager hearth]

And make sure to read pins for him too

[calm grail]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

STOP IT

Just make a list and shut up!

[civic palm]

Well you still have your best stats, the gear it's on doesn't matter.

[shrewd oriole]

Yo do I fok to get the 5th cup?

[calm grail]

I was just kidding my friend, I was just trying to parody somebody I saw on the Demon Hunter Discord the other day.

[shrewd oriole]

????

[orchid prawn]

no you poison knife

[calm grail]

He literally lost his shit because the people there would not give him a bestinslot list.

Who's the guy with the small pectorals in your avatar?

[orchid prawn]

he prob needed it because his 3/11 guild required him to have one

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine being stuck on eonar

@calm grail wow

Wasn’t me

[calm grail]

My group wiped on Kingaroth at 7% with adds out.

[eager hearth]

monkaS

[shrewd oriole]

Gee

Kiwit

[calm grail]

DH fel ♿ rushed an orb.

[shrewd oriole]

Quit

[eager hearth]

Bench him

[shrewd oriole]

Nah I’d rather leave

[indigo glacier]

Is it worth switching to the FoK cloak for fights with lots of adds like eonar, high command and portal keeper?

[calm grail]

I think I talked to you about this a month ago, unfortunately I want to play with my friends I also have to play with potatoes. 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

If my guild was still on KG I’d go play Mario party cuz even that game has a higher skill floor LUL

[calm grail]

If I*

[shrewd oriole]

Probably

[eager hearth]

Idk why he would have done that considering that would have made him press more than 3 buttons

[shrewd oriole]

I’m known for being friendly

[indigo glacier]

cool

[sharp viper]

well you have to frantically jump, double jump, FR and VR around as a dh if the boss is not attackable and your rodent brain does not compute why your chaos strike does not put big dmg numbers on your screen

[shrewd oriole]

Imagine playing assa rogue

And saying dh is easy

[indigo glacier]

ass rogue is easy lol

[sharp viper]

according to you tom,e verything is easy

[shrewd oriole]

Pot calling the kettle black

[civic palm]

Imagine...

[shrewd oriole]

All the people

[civic palm]

putting muslces...

muscles...

as your avatar.

[calm grail]

Imagine playing anything but like.... What? survival?

[sour wasp]

dh=i have enough binds on my steering wheel

[calm grail]

What classes are objectively hard still

[indigo glacier]

ass rogue is just staring at dot bars and making sure they don't hit 0 basically

[calm grail]

I know feral Druid no longer requires a PhD

[shrewd oriole]

@civic palm mate it’s my muscles I was proud of them

Cmon 😦

[civic palm]

NOT Demonology in 2018 LUL

[shrewd oriole]

Better than a stock picture of a girl with a choker

😠

[eager hearth]

Ecks dee

[orchid prawn]

why not, it's good 🍿

[sharp viper]

@indigo glacier very good start to top 10 logs

[calm grail]

It's a hilarious argument, everybody wants to play the hard class cuz it makes them feel like big boys.

[sharp viper]

chokers are hot tho

[sour wasp]

nobody plays outlaw tho

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t like discussing how hard classes are but people mocking other classes for being easy when you play assa

That’s just

You know

[calm grail]

Exactlyyyy

[shrewd oriole]

Hypocritical

[orchid prawn]

if i may have some order in the discussion

[shrewd oriole]

“Rodent brain” as if assa is any fucking harder

[orchid prawn]

first we must establish if any class is hard to play

[shrewd oriole]

A class that has like 600k difference due to a single passive ability

L

M

A

O

[sharp viper]

well we do have to use more than 3 buttons and shuffle around

[indigo glacier]

I need to figure out why my logs are pretty bad 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

Using a button every 20 seconds

Hard btw

[sharp viper]

not saying assa is hard

[calm grail]

So does DH.

[shrewd oriole]

Toxic blade is an in-depth cooldown

Hard to manage