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then why do people go bleed if its overall worse?
With equal gear it's more consistent for raiding, but poison gets them big DICK SPIKES of dmg.
Cuz thereβs no aoe in antorus
So fuck bleed
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Well, there is multiple sin in the top 100 in m+
Someone ban this toxic PoS
(Keep yourself simmed)
I'm DONE
No, there arenβt lol
Majority of rogues play sub
Thereβs a few sure
But sub is far better
is sub overall better than sin in raids aswell?
No
no
Raiding = \ = Mythic+ Rubz
Sin is far better in raiding
Yeah, gotcha π
The gear is fairly similar so you can easily play both
I've done a lower kara +20 as sin, I must be bestest rouge
Nah you just got boosted
ye, had a god wlock
^
I didnt
We all knew that.
with pugs +20 is high thou
Idd
About get even better with flurry changes
Breaking away from the sarcasm here, I hope the guys who designed outlaw
I wonder what changes they have in store for the dice
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Yeah, but it's super early, I hope they change something, because I actually like playing the spec, I just don't like the dice.
feels bad man
Cuz snd outlaw is so fun
If it performed well, I think it's the most fun to play.
The fuck
You like roll the bones?
But bad
casino rogue
P bad
almost like casino wlock in hs
Of course you're going to have outliers.
Itβs just mind numbingly boring
With dice
yikes
I think the problem here is the slang I'm using, in my mind roll the bones is rolling dice
The only snd rng is trinket procs
Bot slice and dice lil
Yeah
Lol
Odd choice of words
Not*
When the word dice is in one of the talents
And not in the other word
The other one*
Anyways
Which of the two builds do you like?
armor pen killing spree spec
roll the slice
Roll the nice
YIKES
haHAA yikes btw
I like roll the bones, I don't like slice and dice.
Role play a dyke
That's what I meant to say
roll a doink
Ah youβre a gambling addict then
Yes.
Yeah rerolling buffs haHAA fun gameplay haHAA
It was fun early in the expansion where it didn't matter where you go because everything was broken π
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You mean where you would reroll if you didnβt get cooldown reduction?
True bearing or kms btw
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Fun gameplay
I have this Impossible Dream where it doesn't matter what you roll, everything is equally good it just changes your playstyle.
It was fun when you got tb tho
I know that's impossible though.
just make tb baseline or some shit
But yeah I agree zolbar
Well don't you agree then, if all the buffs were good, and all that changed was your play style based on what you got, that would be more entertaining than Sin or sun?
It was really fun when you got 6 buffs
Sub*
6buffs is god mode
Yeah I agree thatβs what I just said
If all buffs were equally good outlaw would be fine to play
Or if you could extend good buffsβ duration
Roll till you get a good one then extend it
It would be cool tho Iβd play the hell out of that
Extend the 6buff π€€
Exactly, would be dope
Yum
Let RH design all rogue specs
that
Poison bomb has charges for assa
Outlaw can extend buffs
Sub gets shoulders baseline
All specs fixed, pay me later
extend buffs isn't a good idea for outlaw, it screws you over if you don't start fight with good rolls
j/s
aight can give 3.50
just remove rtb

anyway
RH shouldn't design rogue specs
but
if it comes down to community doing it
I'd rather it be us
Mate
wow forums should do it /s
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What the hell is left
No
Yes
No killing spree
don't make me mute you
Pirate btw
Exactly
Itβs not combat without red buff
why are we having this discussion
Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy
but stfu Tom
and I won't mute you, maybe
Ahaha
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Red buff could easily be a stacking debuff on ghostly strike with a cd.

A stacking buff pls
I already hate that vendetta is a debuff donβt make red buff a debuff
nah ghostly strike needs to go too.
remove rtb
bring back a dot (or introduce one)
remove ghostly strike
haste+ baseline template
buff CBB/KS
There's a great start for the spec
then we can get into debating redbuff
Did you like red buff Jose?
Aka GS
and/or limp-wristing dmg to boost it later
no like delaying redbuff using RS instead of SS
I feel
I hated that
Yeah I know I know
I get it
I liked it personally but I can recognize itβs a bad mechanic
mechanics that involve doing shitty/awkward dps so you burst high later
just feel awful
I like rtb.
but I liked the concept of redbuff
Felt like I was setting up, required planning, understanding timers
@lone junco I'd like it if they removed TB from it months ago
and un-nerfed restless memes
(which they have in alpha, so there's that at least)
Instead of just mindlessly spamming SS evis the whole fight
Is blade flurry still not 100% uptime?
-tb. Buffed rb. Good plan.
Or did they change that back
I wouldn't mind the passive bones gain.
Thatβs unlucky
Doesn't have energy penalty
I don't like it
but w/e
I'm waiting to see if they overhaul it
I'm like 80% thinking outlaw's slated for rework
"mild" rework
W/e. Chances are. Boss downtime will plague and it's a shit spec.
Yeah lol
Unless you can pool and burst with a joust.
feral
Cba playing a triple dps class where I hate two of the specs
Shut up you mosh loving mofo
Prob Hpal and rogue for me.
@open crypt gonna name my hunter tomNich
Prob should just Druid for brez.
name him TodaysTomSawyee
Mean mean guy
MEAN MEAN RIDE mounts pink elephant
Nich is a reference to the dumbest guy me and ash have ever raided with
Christ he was so annoying
Did you raid with a holy pala that repeatedly bubbled soulblight inside the raid
Even after being asked not to
And killing everybody
Lul
Our ret bubbled and horses through 3trip wires on our first imonar heroic.
My cd procced and I got to solo the execute. Was a good parse.
+19s are impossible to get into wtf
one hour until progress
I'm nervous
aggramar is legit residentsleeper for rogue
dont fly off the platform with meteor
thats about it
prettymuch
like why are +19s so hard to get into
if youre a nice boy you cloak soak other group
what is the gain of soaking with ranges?
cloak aoe last second, then you can soak ranged smash if its right after
you take some of the split they take less dmg
can save kills if you have people dead in last phase
I see
!relics
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
Thanks mate
@vapid moth whatβs your score
first one you can cloak before 80%
atleast thats what I do
since everyone is alive and topped and shit
guess I can feint melee aswell
2367
That's your problem Xaer, you need at least a 5k score like Tom to get a good group.
Put some effort in.
honestly half the time i do a higher dungeon it falls apart before the second boss

i did a +18 or so CoS this morning. one dude kept pulling a shit ton of stuff. tank pulling before the vial is even poisoned

the hall run had 2 hunters who never did the dungeon
they were dying to the sword
the shit i really love is when i que up for something. then the guys delist and relist but they added a score requirement that is 200 above mine
@vapid moth pugging upper on tyr weeks is always a shit show. A few weeks ago, it took my 4th run to complete it.
Tom just getting boosted tbh
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200
tfw been top 100 in 2 seasons so dont need to give a f about score anymore
its 200 points
So everything 18 is 2600
You havenβt even done everything 18
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Meanwhile thereβs like 20 trillion dpsers with probsbly higher gear and definitely higher score who the group can take instead
hmm
But timings on that fight determine everything so just try them out
Iβm so bored man
I hate family shit
tom u missed my 955 gloves
955 pfft
how important are the wrist and shoulders for dps?
well, if you leave the slots empty you gonna miss some stats π€
welp theres another +17 halls broken up before the 2nd boss is dead
How important is breathing
pushing io score just aint easy
dude was telling me to put on pyrdaz as if that was the issue
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+18?
Prydaz rules on tyrannical
yeah well i wasnt dying
rogue with prydaz π
why dont rogues have a taunt
ah well. im done attempting dungeons today. thats the 5th failed one
hmmm EoC or fang on aggramar
@vapid moth we do. It's called tricks of the trade
anyone got a garrote profile for weakauras? been trying to use the one from wowhead but it refuses to wrk : / (progress bar+timer)
*work
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erm, there's WAs pinned in the channel that can track garrote
and show you with glow when to refresh
and in any case, don't try to to get WAs from wowhead, those are just automatically generated.
search for WAs in wago.io
thanks π
whew
Did you do it?
aoe cloak into rdd flame rend is super tight
gj
i men i need good weak aura for assa
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@civic palm : )
Question: I just got bracers to drop so I have bracers and shoulders. I was originally using Ravenholdt Ring instead of bracers.
How in the 7 levels of hell does Ring sim 10k more DPS than bracers right now?
What am I doing wrong?
Bracers are totally bis right?
Yep.
Who else?
910 haste/verse ring?
In simple english:
Other pieces affect your outcome
I have a 940 verse/mast ring to replace the leggo.
The bracers I replaced with leggo bracers were 975 crit/haste
The bracers did have a gem slot though
Laymen speak
So I lost 35 ilvls worth of stats
So I don't wear leggo bracers until I get a better ring?
Up to you.
Kingaroth has been a douche
10k sim DPS is pretty inconsequential
Anyway, thank you wEakxd and Ganador
Yep yep
Prydaz > logs for progression π
If you're not the one dying to mechanics don't wear it imo
If you're causing wipes or dying from mistakes do ur raid a favor and wear it
Which boss is it?
M aggramar
ah nice
if your raid is dying in intermission, healers just gotta blow more cds/raid has to kill adds faster
has nothing to do with prydaz
How are you playing it
Fuck pyrdaz
how on earth are u supposed to deal damage on mythic eonar as sin LUL
the redcrystal is too much :C
why are you getting red crystal lol
i mean its w/e you wont be doing much as a sin on eonar anyways
unless you first hit pb
use glaive and mantle
i never had a full ranged coven pug
if your raid is dying when yall pop 2 adds
it means your healers aint popping enoug cds
enough*
thats on healers
nothing you can do about it
You as a rogue should be pretty save tbh
Tbh there's a lot of healing you have to do on that fight
If one or two people just play like mongs
not really
all the damage comes if you mess up
and have to do 2 adds
you can blow cds during intermission
ye, but like if ranged stack slightly too close or people get hit by flamerend
no bueno
does the 4set sim properly? I just sim'd it and its saying if i put on a few crit mastery piece and just dont use 2 or 4set id be doing more dps
its simcraft
just use raidbots
its simcraft in the cloud
but its updated a lot more frequently cause its community run
i cant do multiple sets with raidbots can i?
you can
it'll even do top gear combinations
we use tranq and holyp CDs now
your /simc?
how important is tier for sin rogue rn
eh?
eh as in what did i just say or eh as in kinda poopy
4pc is π
right now
How do the Sims factor in the bracers buff. Like it can't use a boss with the same hp for every player
ive never seen so many rogues love a WA as much as the PB one
how else will they top the meters if their group won't play around their random procs?
muh deeps
so is life playing pb in m+
more and less like ppl pulling 5 mobs to bosses for sub SS abuse
what's the difference
anyone looking for a shit rogue? 
Aren't you EU?
shit >= no guild?
NEIN cant german
Unlucky

You mean the whole world doesn't speak English? π
what
what

Zempai when do you raid
now
...
Unlucky
why
I might or might not be looking for a raid for my warrior on days I don't raid with guild
isn't warrior like hyperboring to play ?
Well tbf no class is paticularly exciting to play
tank in raid is zzzzzzzzz
dps in raid is whoring
healing haven't tried yet, prob heal sniping
Raid heal is sniping with smart heals.
M+ heal looks good tho. Hpal single dps is rather surprising at times. So I've been enjoying it.
hmmm which one to go for?
just do addition
i know its more in addition
also raidbots
ah ok didnt use relic compare before
left
was right
my other relics are shit will be 1st point in ma
coined a nice little 985 iron from hc arg
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
I used a calculator for the second one
cause its the weekened
fuk math
finished my last two on friday
so now I'm just coasting til finals
eh
one I did well on
but the other, well I passed
didnt do spectacular either though
nah I'm doing good in all my other courses
I'm not one of those straight A+ peeps
I'm like B-B+ average
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hmmm
Rely on natural Intel and get straight A grades with minimal effort!
now thats a game plan i can live by
honestly, if I put in anymore effort than the bare minimum I do now I could probably get straight As
but I also have like no willpower
Deleted don't want to gloat π
What degree was it in?
Geochem
Haha
Oh boi
both geo and chem
Straight A puns
That's gneiss
Putting us between a rock and a hard place
So is this normal, without shoulders i get destroyed
in aoe
like guys 20 ilvl lower doing millions more
damn
All about that long game without shoulders.
MEEEEHHH
we saw P2 three times, mostly died in intermission to stupid shit
like
we wasted half the raidtime because nobody called that ppl used monk circle before massgrip
until RL looked closer
but we actually learned everything we need
i think but hero dmg wont load races for me
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
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poisons
true
yoyoyo
dont supose anyone can look over a log of mine and do some pointers
ive decided to attempt to get as good at assa as i am at sub
so any scruteny would be fantastic
even minor details
just did the fight like 5 minutes ago so i could get some basic analasis
so delay TB until after refreshing? or just refresh pre-emtivly
dont' delay tb
you need to play around CDs
just time your refreshes better
Look at Tb cd
sort of like how you did with nightblade
egress 
Still with family?
Yeah
Probably for a week or so
No video games
Just depressing family stuff π
even if you're on like 3 points in TB? no garrote for the point?
depends if using garrote will cost you the envenom
how important are pandemic timers then? am i letting pandemic run its course then refresh?
on tb
kk fair 'nough
you spam mut>env inside TB too or`?
Refresh early.
What like a week ago?
just want to be sure
Iβve been pinging you on really dumb questions
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Nah, today
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he's not iWin
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also if you just delete your message rq and replace with <Message Deleted> it looks better cause no edit
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I used to be faster
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Anyway
is there any way to have vanish not reset details?
Mmmm, not that I know of.
eh?
Is there a way to make the reset less strict?
invite someone to your group
Yeah but testing, yabutt.
ye like on a dummy
what I do with skada is go to overall or total log
I guess I could inv someone ye
and just delete the logs after
for some reason overall doesnt show anything for me when Im not in a group
have to rememeber to reset everything before
otherwise the log is messed up
I've forgotten a couple times
Rank one dummies btw
oh
stop, dis is deletion polis
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i dont think he thinks it as an achievmenet
stop judging my apply

you can say achieved without it implying
he's an achiever right?
The way he phrases it clearly implies heβs proud of it
I will apply soon
Lul
Is it easy to beat a WW monk in duel?
open world pvp in 2018
I can cloack his karma right
@shrewd oriole if you don't have any raiding XP this stuff is important
how did u get 14
i can barely manage 2 a week after doing everything
invansions
@dire spoke heβs got raiding exp
lul

Itβs literally pointless
when I apply I will mention I farmed 250 mounts in 3 month
Yeah exactly
βI have p high achievements points take me into your raiding guildβ
Lmao
if I apply to pug groups I link my fishng achievement π€·
pvp area is empty so just tell me can a sin rogue beat ww monk 1v1
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Most people here don't really pvp, this is mostly a pve channel
crap logs what?
you're all just elitist assholes π¦
Those logs are heroic
wooooow
cause this ww got me and lost 0 hp
so why is it important?
Toxin mod
Purples in heroic is p bad
Stop bully
I need to run through heroic and update my parses
but cloak was on cd so he was immortal from karma
Specially if all you do is heroic
If youβre running heroic every single week and all you have are purple parses, youβre not great
I shouldn't apply then
Me either.
T :omegalul: M
what if i don't even have purple... on eonar π¦
Every eonar parse is purple
dude I got cucked, I had a 95 on eonar that got corrected down to a 94
i got 100% on eonar though... boss damage.
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For what?
Tryhard
These are the logs of a true assa rogue
Mate we donβt know pvp
Who the fuck does pvp


kappa
Nice blue argus
not even close, because I can't parse with most groups
Just cuz the boss is blue donβt mean your logs gotta be blue
succ on my eonar log
What a try hard
What's the asterisk
Recent log
Not yet reflected on all star points
Fucking cringe
This is hard to read
Yeah this is cringe
Guy applying saying heβs fanboy of a player in our raid team lmao
what is this
to a special needs class music band?
I will write I'm Tom's Loli
Iβm consistent

. . .
This guy is heroic splits fooder
weak what
Go over apps to your guild youβll find some cringe ones
what
oh
To further drive the point that flowi is the master mind behind mementos success
When I was in college I worked at a gas station and would fill out troll applications and leave them in the manager's box...
Was p fun.
Just changes it up, would also go from using a pen to a pencil.
wish we had apps 
Changed*
I will apply at mize's 
Stay away from my potatoes.
Wtf
brb writing app to momento rank 1 br
This guy wrote 6 paragraphs
But potatoes are so good π¦
Not for raiding they're not.
Did he write it from a role-playing perspective?
lies fries are perfect for raiding
why can't the Rogue mount land
Because fuck you.
^
but they fixed Druid mount that couldn't land
I feel like we talked about this in 2017 
finally pulle the damn duskwalker pads. took all the way to the next to last legendary >.>
Imagine doing one raid and getting your trial failed
sounds good

does that guild get payed from sponsers
I mean... you either failed mechanically or they were looking for a reason to kick you.
Doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on English, deny him.
Reason you were Fired : Well you see...
I know right jack
if you apply to a job: ''well i havent gotten any jobs because im literally fucking retracted''
honesty doesn't kill bosses tho
What if they denied him because he plays exsanguinate?
and who fucking knows what kind of mechanical failure they were being picky about.
He doesn't want to discuss that in his application.
then they are retracted
The largest problem is that he admits he's an idiot, but would rather not talk abou tit.
Get kicked after one raid
nothing wrong with bleedy bois, he probably played alacrity
Where the damage is thickest?
V I S U A L I N S I G H T
it's a ret pal
THICKEST
everytime after a progress kill i study our logs too
This is a hpala
T H I C C E S T
oh
THICCEST
So whats todays meme?
Apps
Shitters in apps.
was playing league
Guild apps
Tom is giving us the meme
is todays meme
This is juicy βοΈβοΈ
flappy bird is cool
I would love to do recruitment
I feel like Iβm too toxic for recruitment
I am like to do damage
you would hate your life if you actually had to do that other than to make fun of people
Well there is something good in recruitment for cutting through the bullshit and just making a choice.
Pls recruiting me
I'm poe pro now btw
He analyzes logs, did he notice that the amount of top 10 exsang parses is zero?
hit level 40 today
He's a...
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LUL
what kind of special forces? PepoThink
I know you need information.
Give the guy an interview and record it for memes
His guild probably doesn't know he's leaving yet
hey I got kicked from 3 guilds back to back
He's kind of a big deal.
But I'd rather not talk about it.
Letβs not talk about it
He's just being modest
Also... Special Forces.
special (education) forces
the most special of forces
Itβs so bad
is this a copypasta tom?
No
this sounds like one
Itβs an app
Yeah a copy from his apps.
AHAH
to paste into Discord
i left for special forces battalion for months.. when i came back my wife had left me for reasons id rather not discuss


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