assassination

[viscid helm]

and Exsang beat TB by over 100k

[keen inlet]

yeah, boots bracer, boots mantle, mantle bracer, I can't get alac to sim higher

[old quartz]

^

[quick talon]

based on what data flowi

[viscid helm]

🙃

[jovial kite]

tb is a dead meme

[quick talon]

🙃

[hoary copper]

yEa but your crit is only 30% ish percent right? Isn't flowi's much higher?

[keen inlet]

I've saved, don't have to pick up garbo talent

right

[viscid helm]

lol

that crit

[keen inlet]

just wondered if at my level I could get alac to work

[strange python]

1% haste 👌

[keen inlet]

could not

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viscid helm]

i have +40%

[hoary copper]

If you switched out a bunch

I have too much haste

[prime void]

What relics @viscid helm

[viscid helm]

I have 3x MA 2x BB and 1x Malch rn

i havent even looked into relics yet

what would be the most ideal

[keen inlet]

the only haste I have is on mantle and wrists. Rest is crit/mast/vers.

[viscid helm]

with fang up i have almost 80% mut crit rn

[warm parcel]

its quite reliant on having 2x mascrit rings

[keen inlet]

yeah one of mine is vers

rip

[quick talon]

can anyone finally link some alac reports

or dm

wanna see

[keen inlet]

I want logs

[old quartz]

^

[viscid helm]

i can prob sim the relics tomorrow

[keen inlet]

I want to see this meme build shine

[warm parcel]

flowis rank ones

[old quartz]

show me top 100 players running alac

[warm parcel]

on aggra

week after week

[foggy socket]

heroic raiders know the best what to do

[quick talon]

still no reports

😦

[dire spoke]

whenever I try to make something else than mantle-bracers happen, it never works

idk

[foggy socket]

mine took like 12 hours to update from last night

[old quartz]

wait a minute, flowi youre referring to heroic?

smh

[viscid helm]

https://puu.sh/zxI9R/7ca975adde.png

[warm parcel]

Im trying to do the apl

[viscid helm]

https://puu.sh/zxIaJ/d89b029abb.png

[keen inlet]

[old quartz]

that doesnt show anything related to spec though 🤔

[viscid helm]

https://puu.sh/zxIbO/f229a851b0.png

[keen inlet]

my tiny brain

can't comprehend

what I am seeing

[warm parcel]

alac logs

[dire spoke]

@warm parcel use chloroform

works 10/10

[warm parcel]

k

[keen inlet]

alright

but let's compare

[fervent beacon]

i think i need more crit to make alacrity work

[viscid helm]

i mean

[old quartz]

can we see it on a non stand still and beat a dummy fight? i mean aggy isnt that hard for melee

[keen inlet]

what's your best log as TB Flowi

[viscid helm]

i only do last bosses

[keen inlet]

(for Agg)

[viscid helm]

ugh

[warm parcel]

3.2

xd

[viscid helm]

that would be like 3 month old

progress log

:)))))

[keen inlet]

aight

well

if you're feeling particularly scientific

[smoky wind]

would it be worth swapping out a 930 relic with master assassin for a 960 relic with master alchemist?

[keen inlet]

try and give it an honest go with TB

[viscid helm]

sim it

[keen inlet]

so we can compare

[viscid helm]

i mean i guess i can do that w/e

when we raid the next time

were on a break

rn

🤷

[void pecan]

Go pug a heroic

ecks

dee

[dire spoke]

wait lul

[fervent beacon]

Be the heroic pug hero

[dire spoke]

you 4CP finish with alac?

[viscid helm]

obviously?

[fervent beacon]

no, Flowi like to finish with 5cp by wasting those seal fate proc

[viscid helm]

It's Vigor

[fervent beacon]

🤔

[viscid helm]

@quick talon

30

s

[dire spoke]

oh 🤦 naya's weakauras are not centered

[viscid helm]

patch notes

[warm parcel]

zzz

nobody cares

[viscid helm]

Naya is playing Alac with full TB gear

with MP

cos 🙃

[fervent beacon]

Wait, are you running EP with Ala?

[viscid helm]

yes

[fervent beacon]

That explains why you have high crit base then

[shrewd oriole]

https://i.redd.it/m66g4mssnzi01.png

[old quartz]

what is dictative of alac gear? mostly crit? bracers/boots?

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm

[viscid helm]

lmao

[fervent beacon]

All I need is two rings with mast/crit and belt then I should be closer to 35% crit

[shrewd oriole]

classic

[strange python]

the hell did they do to elementalist

[viscid helm]

crit

[shrewd oriole]

ele is shyte

[old quartz]

40+?

[shrewd oriole]

not worth playing

[viscid helm]

well i have 40% rn

and its still insane value

[wide delta]

does anyone know why my WA's arent showing any CDs anymore?

[quick talon]

30 what

[viscid helm]

better than anything else

[old quartz]

whats your mastery w/40 crit?

[viscid helm]

140

[old quartz]

damn that seems super lower though

[viscid helm]

thing is, haste has really nice value

as Alac as well

[plain thistle]

playing exsanguinate flowi?

[viscid helm]

its catching up to vers

[quick talon]

I'll see with number i can pull off in raidbots later

[viscid helm]

nahh i play EP Alac

[plain thistle]

hmm

[quick talon]

flowi what u simming with ep alac

u filth

[viscid helm]

2.23

[old quartz]

ahh ok

[quick talon]

ilvl ?

[viscid helm]

but i have no gear

[old quartz]

then this makes sense

[viscid helm]

cos im shit

971

[quick talon]

yea obviously

[plain thistle]

that 11/11M raider 🤔

😂

[fervent beacon]

I'm 972 🤔

[sonic pawn]

What are these Alacrity memes ?

[fervent beacon]

in bag

[viscid helm]

i wanna do the relic sims tho

[old quartz]

jhonwei please chime in here on this alac vs tb

[viscid helm]

cos i have no idea what's good

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[quick talon]

Doubt malch is still that good

[shrewd oriole]

MAlch has to be good right

[plain thistle]

I played alacrity last night for garothi and immonar

[quick talon]

idk

[shrewd oriole]

whaaat why

[fervent beacon]

Well, Alacrity basically make your poison hit more often in the nutshell, right?

[quick talon]

i guess bb/MA

[plain thistle]

AHAH

for immonar is like, horrible

[shrewd oriole]

more haste = more poison applications

[fervent beacon]

So I'd guessing both MA/MA would be ideal

especially if you're running bracers/boots

[viscid helm]

you just gottan run on imonar 😄

to not drop stacks

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[old quartz]

and risk wiping the raid though, for progression thats terrible lmao

[sonic pawn]

so is this actually a dps incrase for anyone? I'd imagine you'd need some more crit to compensate for loss of shoulders?

[fervent beacon]

but yeah Jhonwei, that's the fight that basically stopped me from playing outlaw at this point 😂

[shrewd oriole]

progression

imonar

🤔

[old quartz]

i feel you on running through i do it all the time, just sometimes tanks hate it lol

[plain thistle]

the problem is that I played bracer+boots, and even with alac I wasnt able to use vendetta x2 per phase

[viscid helm]

how does running through the bridge wipe the raid?

[fervent beacon]

Of course Nightmvre, mantle basically devalue the fuck out of your crit

[quick talon]

I'll dive into alac build later

play with the APL

[shrewd oriole]

imagine still being on imonar progress

[quick talon]

and see what i can push my setup to

fucking memes

[old quartz]

haha im not a "hater" im just looking to see evidence of this greatness

[shrewd oriole]

😢

[sonic pawn]

So has anyone seen a dps increase going Alac or is it just a meme

cause my gear is very fluent right now i have alot of options

[fervent beacon]

Flowi is basically #1 rogue on mythic Argus, that should be your evidence of the greatness

within flowi

[shrewd oriole]

kek

[old quartz]

^^ prob, ive been suckered in the worst i believe lol

[quick talon]

he's just laughing off his ass

[viscid helm]

[quick talon]

that people follow his great idea

[viscid helm]

shut up

[plain thistle]

😂

[viscid helm]

idiot

[fervent beacon]

Flowi is sitting behind his computer laughing 'look at these losers hurting their dps with my meme'

[plain thistle]

♿

[quick talon]

stop bully

[fervent beacon]

Truly toxic as fuck.

[viscid helm]

i like how

[sonic pawn]

Wait Outlaw tag posting about alac in assa c hannel 🤔

[viscid helm]

6 months ago

[fervent beacon]

[viscid helm]

everyone called me retired

[sonic pawn]

cant trust

[viscid helm]

when i mentioned Alac

now i have proper following

[quick talon]

why would they call you retired?

[viscid helm]

suddenly

cos they dont understand

[fervent beacon]

Flowi is just yellow because he's the founder of the alacrity meme

[hoary copper]

"proper following"? Is that like Charles Manson?

[viscid helm]

a cult

[old quartz]

you didnt do the blood pact to join the disco @hoary copper ?

[viscid helm]

i'm making it my mission to bring back Alac for BFA

[old quartz]

lmfao

[viscid helm]

since it's removed on alpha

replace TB with it

[old quartz]

better get on it with @frigid briar to get that point over to devs

[viscid helm]

i dont think thats a good idea

[old quartz]

lol

[bold dune]

implying the devs would listen to anything infexious says

[keen inlet]

highest sim is boots/mantle, but still 30k below tb

[old quartz]

don jose going in

❤ is

[viscid helm]

well i mean

[old quartz]

it

[viscid helm]

lets be honest

30k is not much

[old quartz]

its not

but to the minds eye its "less:

[viscid helm]

[old quartz]

procs etc could overpower that

[keen inlet]

def not worth losing to pick up a talent I despise tho 😉

[old quartz]

but like i wanna see even if not a LITTLE more to entice me.

[keen inlet]

so it's easy

I just need to not get any more upgrades

[dense blaze]

How is this dude casting TB every 20 seconds https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GRJjQkfXCVB78LpD#fight=1&type=casts&source=32&ability=245388

[void pecan]

Yep.

Ook Ook

[viscid helm]

no patch notes yet

[warm parcel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xpS7uMzZHe1xwXgQDjRsXv

Crits good

[abstract ginkgo]

Excuse me, is the difference between the Blood and Poison build big in damage?

[vapid moth]

why would you wanna do bleed

[dense blaze]

Probably a vaper

[viscid helm]

bleed is where the dmg is at

[prisma carbon]

Yikes

[vapid moth]

says the outlaw player

[shrewd oriole]

bleed sucks

[abstract ginkgo]

I just want to know if the difference between the two is noticeable

[shrewd oriole]

poison is dope

[viscid helm]

this isnt outlaw

[vapid moth]

@hoary copper you on?

[viscid helm]

bru

[dense blaze]

Just take a look at the logs, bleed is all up in the top 50

[viscid helm]

@abstract ginkgo it is at higher ilvl

[shrewd oriole]

Kappa

[viscid helm]

altho

Bleed requires specific items

[abstract ginkgo]

I see 😮

[viscid helm]

t20 2 pc

3x MA

[abstract ginkgo]

I'll focus on poison for now then, thank you. 😃

[quick talon]

flowi giving actual advice

what is this

[shrewd oriole]

bleed sucks

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/e81b9a222a774da4d5a60c951041b6f9

[shrewd oriole]

doesnt have a single r1

[viscid helm]

tom

go away

[jovial kite]

dpsing with warrior on aggra btw

boss damage

[void pecan]

damage done.

hm

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/d7c99712f8d092e46e2fe40398ab1105

[bold dune]

wow that warlock's a skilled player

[viscid helm]

[hoary copper]

@vapid moth At work till 1700 EST and on prob about 1830

[shrewd oriole]

number of bleed rank 10's: 0

number of poison rank 10's: many

[dense blaze]

*all

[viscid helm]

is that a surprise tho?

its about PB in the end anyway

[regal river]

Do u wanna spam FoK and only use envenom if +4 targets or is it more worth keep multidotting rupture?

[quick talon]

you dont need to get rank1

when ravenholdt apes think its good

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[quick talon]

[bold dune]

also everyone's playing poison in the first place

[viscid helm]

༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ GGG BRING BACK IGNITE ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[shrewd oriole]

what time are notes?

[viscid helm]

should be rn

already late

[exotic glen]

hype

rank1 imonar again bois

i took it back

[viscid helm]

i'll prob do some tomorrow if i have time

wanna do the relic sims

i was trying to get haste higher than mast today

couldnt do it

[jovial kite]

consistency > rank ones

to iwin

[viscid helm]

bro

[shrewd oriole]

rip iwin

[viscid helm]

rank1's are all that matters in here

[shrewd oriole]

consistency sucks dude

it's farm

[keen inlet]

%n, go away
-Flowi, 2kX

[quick talon]

m8

[steep citrus]

@ionic heron https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GRJjQkfXCVB78LpD#fight=1&type=casts&source=32&ability=245388 is a bogus parse. That's how he did TB every 20 seconds

[quick talon]

You should know what i meant

at this point

[steep citrus]

they weren't even subtle. he has another parse on the same date for the same bosses with the real data

[quick talon]

nothing matters at all

[marble hemlock]

2.75mil on coven and i forgot to log, fml

[void pecan]

Idiot

[jovial kite]

and take everything at face value

[shrewd oriole]

yeah man

🐒

[quick talon]

Yea but

[jovial kite]

hence memeing can be negative value

if you are to form opinions

[shrewd oriole]

link the evolution meme again @quick talon

[viscid helm]

[jovial kite]

yeah

its solid

[shrewd oriole]

should be pinned

[quick talon]

Arent we all here just for the memes

[shrewd oriole]

react if you wanna pin the above meme

[quick talon]

If i was looking for actual advice

[keen inlet]

Man it is so cool to bash people's intellect on here 😎

[quick talon]

i'd dm flowi HAHA

[marble hemlock]

so i heard alacrity for aggramar 🤔

[viscid helm]

[marble hemlock]

no idea, i always forgot to start them which is why i ask our enhancer to do it, but he was benched for coven 😦

someone prolly has it, wouldve been a shame to let that one go away

[keen inlet]

I wonder what general threshold alacrity needs to run well

[warm parcel]

Honestly no clue

[keen inlet]

as these questions are becoming more frequent

[warm parcel]

For me its 30k behind tb now

[keen inlet]

and the more we meme the more people are asking about it

[warm parcel]

Would seem just super high crit

For upkeep of ep and tier

[marble hemlock]

well i got 11k crit+eoc so yeah

gonna sim after raid

[strange python]

That feel when you keep getting haste rings when you really want mastery

[dense blaze]

M+ cache and weekly cache only give haste gear, change my mind

[keen inlet]

I figured ilvl would be key tbh

[warm parcel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/irjz7GdFLknJbbjVN6mEmD
Is what I scale like with alac

[strange python]

I believe you simp

[warm parcel]

With this apl

[keen inlet]

even geared for crit/mast and lower ilvls it won't be enough

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange python]

I have a 900ilvl ring

[marble hemlock]

boots+bracer?

[keen inlet]

I'd just love to be able to say "if you aren't ilvl 965 don't bother with alac" and be done with it

[warm parcel]

Cant really say anything specific

[strange python]

They I haven't replace cause anything else is downgrade

[warm parcel]

all my gear is visible in said report

and the apl used

[viscid helm]

i need tier hands now

so i can use my argus chest

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2093500

[strange python]

Think

[quick talon]

nice scaling!

[patent topaz]

looking forward to PoE

[deep heart]

Seeping scourgewing vs Eye of command?

[patent topaz]

getting real tired of wow

[quick talon]

who isnt tired

at this point

[strange python]

I get tired of poe

most fun was perandus.

[marble hemlock]

ready for DISCORECTANGLEJUGG?

[viscid helm]

JUGG

thank god perandus isnt zana 8

[marble hemlock]

no ignite changes

RIP

[strange python]

@deep heart eye of command.

[viscid helm]

ye rip ignite dream

altho

herald of ash buff

Flameblast

here i come

[strange python]

I played ignite fblast in breach

I really do miss the Perandus league though.

something about it. it was just great

[pliant nest]

yo is it worth playing boots on kingaroth m?

[quick talon]

yes

[pliant nest]

aight thanks

[quick talon]

new OW season soon

watch me rank plat and quit

[viscid helm]

me to

[marble hemlock]

hm your crit scaling with alac is off the charts

[quick talon]

Flowi u gotta leave early today?

Season should start at 1am

[viscid helm]

yeh im prob going to sleep at the time it releases

got work at 6am

[quick talon]

Alright

OW was actually fun around dia/master

but soloq is beyond disgusting

[viscid helm]

it is

[quick talon]

youre playing moira right ?

Aye

abilites are decent looking

[keen inlet]

Zenny/Brigitte for me, I'm thinking

[viscid helm]

mostly moira l

[strange python]

looks like a support you would only play on attack

[quick talon]

Easy, Team 🎷 OW ranked when

[keen inlet]

Yeah her defensive abilities aren't that great comparitively

stun tho

👌

[quick talon]

stuns are too strong in OW

due to certain abilities

stuns way to high valued

But idk how OW is nowadays

reached master in s4 and 5 i think and kinda stopped playing there

[strange python]

junkrat mania

[keen inlet]

same as it ever was

fun casually

competitive

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange python]

i only play deathmatch haha.

[quick talon]

Anything else than ranked is quite boring in OW to me

dont see the point

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/23f383d56225f9a7d44fcbac097238cd

warriors beaten

no add toucherino

exsang stronk

rank 23

couldnt beat flowi 😦

[zealous dew]

spec alacrity

easy r1

[jovial kite]

cant beat without touching adds

we dont kill them

memento does

[zealous dew]

😃

[viscid helm]

isnt that better tho

you can keep perma fokking

meanwhile

i get like 5x foks out

and they are dead

[torn token]

Adds are close enough for you to fok in aggra?

[viscid helm]

PoB is about 95% updated and available now.

[patent topaz]

one shot immonar reclear

what is this

[jovial kite]

only wlock touch them

unless called

@viscid helm

[civic palm]

Recleared Mythic last night with no more than 3 wipes per boss > _>" wtf 👋

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/060223466c941ddea012641a286df32b

snöff

[civic palm]

=\

[blazing badge]

@jovial kite Can you tell me how many crit and mastery you have

[jovial kite]

crit 44 mastery 154

i play exsang

[blazing badge]

ok

[frosty linden]

Is 30% crit the softcap?

[hoary copper]

There's no caps

or softcaps

[void pecan]

there's no such THING

[hoary copper]

Not for us anyway

Frostmage and HPal are the only ones I can think of with caps

[urban storm]

Technically outlaw has a mastery cap lol

[hoary copper]

0? lol

[jovial kite]

secret top level strat

https://gyazo.com/a4a73095afab6235660b2db36512ae0d

dont tell anyone

1 free pb tick

[zealous dew]

lulz

[quick talon]

1,82m on imonar

if only i played alac

https://gyazo.com/1074327386559821f66cd46d9d26978f

superior build

[mild verge]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[zealous dew]

lfr imonar ?

[quick talon]

yes

[lone junco]

@jovial kite o shit. 44/154 is a lot of mastery. I think ive got 43/135

[jovial kite]

yeah its too much

i need like 3% more crit and around 30% mastery converted to versa

[lone junco]

nah. I think there is a mastery push at a crit point.

due to 4p

[jovial kite]

3 ilvls back mastery was above versa

now versa is above

[prime void]

pb?

[hoary copper]

Flowi claims another

[lone junco]

@gusty kestrel 2.5 is pgood. Esp with the fucking chill mode.

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/zxMS3/086173c466.png

finally

[lone junco]

2 1 5 1 4 1 5 1 4 2

[marble hemlock]

PK Relics still valuable

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/af2261e655e1e899f544640698b576f3

welcome to the club

[warm parcel]

https://i.imgur.com/97QmXsI.png

High five

[jovial kite]

https://gyazo.com/9e7626ac28e823b976e3a861c4ef9c06

is 4 better than 7 🤔

[lone junco]

@fast nacelle you still bracer insig?

[marble hemlock]

4>7, yes

EU math

[lone junco]

2.744 is blown out the top.

oh woops

[lethal heart]

can you do all the vari soaks

as assa?

i cba my guild

[jovial kite]

yes

[lethal heart]

ok

i go assa

[jovial kite]

i do them every week

[lethal heart]

i top fucking add damage

as sub rogue

because i save my shit

and they still

cant kill melee add

because i dont have dfa for that

C

B

A

[jovial kite]

pro guild

[lethal heart]

cba man

[jovial kite]

u seem a lil tilted

[lethal heart]

well

a bit

i'd say

not gonna lie

[jovial kite]

👀

[supple hearth]

@lethal heart 🤔 don't be a 🥄

[jovial kite]

giggles monitor has spotted a retroactive

redacted

retracted

[lone junco]

slacker

97%

[marble hemlock]

always fun when you have 15% pb on varimathras but your logs are shit cause you gotta soak

[quick talon]

Soaking what

yea but how does that effect your dps

its not even a gcd

that youre losing

[urban mortar]

can somebody please link me a opener for sin? been a while a feeling a tad rusty

[marble hemlock]

healers arent the rgeatest

so i feint all of them

[quick talon]

o

aight

[marble hemlock]

with elusiveness

and i also gotta switch on adds

😦

wasting so many SoTs on adds

[quick talon]

I dont switch

playing with eoc

fuck that

[marble hemlock]

id rather not wipe on farm cause ppl dont switch :<

no ime for that

[hoary copper]

@urban mortar Right at the top of the page is a guide with opener and rotation

[lethal heart]

i had same mindset

when playing sub on this fight

'im just gonna focus add and we gonna be fine'

and then melee adds dont die xd

[marble hemlock]

nice

[lethal heart]

i dont fucking know how

[supple hearth]

@urban mortar 📌

[marble hemlock]

ahead of bm/frostmage/warriors/enhance

feelsbadman

ye

[lethal heart]

monkaS

i had logs of me having ~130 mil on adds as sub

and 2nd person

60

which was a frostmage

i was actually proud

[marble hemlock]

😛

[lethal heart]

obv negative boss damage

healing the boss

[marble hemlock]

had 15% pb so that saved it for me this time

[lethal heart]

assa is such a rollercoaster

i played some assa in nl

and in 1 out of 3 big pulls i had sickest psn bombs of all times

and other 2 literally 0

literally 80% of my damage was psn bombs on 1st big pull

[lone junco]

ep anti alac my dream is neigh. (0.1% apart)

[lethal heart]

then 0

[marble hemlock]

yeah

im still running triple PK relics

[lethal heart]

makes up a lot?

[marble hemlock]

so even w/o bombs its decent aoe

[lethal heart]

i was wondering if i should do that

[marble hemlock]

well, on packs where you dont proc its obviously going to be a big chunk of damage

[lethal heart]

because i'm gonna play it in m+ only anyway

and argus

and even on argus we play like 4-5 melees max on farm so sub is ok

[marble hemlock]

but ever since the nerf pk is like 10-12% of your overall damage

[lone junco]

yes

[lethal heart]

yea

but you know

[marble hemlock]

yeah, like talents

[lethal heart]

game fantasy haHAA

[lone junco]

id even use a book for it

[marble hemlock]

i have all 3 assa relics lying around with malch+mass+master of shadows/shocklight

but i cant switch because i need pk for m+

thankfully the difference between 3xPK vs 3xMass isnt that big to begin with

nah

PB is 10% overall in a bad run, 13-14% in a good one

[lone junco]

3 vend is a lot better than 3 cloak 😃

[marble hemlock]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/822v3g26CQ758mLUiMpeqq

wouldnt call less than 50k "a lot" better

thats overall Tisumi

the PB/PK numbers i mentioned

and we were talking about m+, singletarget 8-10% should be normal :p

[shrewd oriole]

@lethal heart http://prntscr.com/il4a6s

your arch nemesis

[lethal heart]

sóbek wut

[marble hemlock]

cant stand playing sub

just feels so bad having huge bursts, but then also incredibly low phases

[indigo idol]

anyone mind teaching me exsang assa :)?

[tepid ridge]

hi guys

[lone junco]

@indigo idol 200$. ill be your coach.

[tepid ridge]

mythic raiders, does shadow cloak remove totally the sleep on imonar?

[indigo idol]

yeah sure xD

[tepid ridge]

for us and around us?

or we need to go away anyway

[marble hemlock]

yeah, assa doesnt really care all that much about tanks chainpulling

wouldnt cloak the sleep though

since you usually get dispelled instantly anyway

just make a focus-shadowstep macro

and make your "favourite" ranged dps your focus

so you can shadowstep to him when you get sleep, and fuck up his dps

[prime void]

naw

that fucks up my parse

I'd rather keep my uptime

[lone junco]

I played outlaw for imonar, and you bet i looked for the hunter and was going to hook his ass for sleep

[shrewd oriole]

@lethal heart same server too

[marble hemlock]

i mean youre back on the boss like 1sec later

[crystal fox]

bloody hell,forever #2 in pubg, hate this game

[undone vapor]

vendetta always had 30% dmg increase ?

[coarse nymph]

no

it just got buffed from 20%

yes it always been 30% bruh

[quick talon]

💦

[void pecan]

You?

[quick talon]

?

[void pecan]

is that youuu

[quick talon]

Yes

@viscid helm https://gyazo.com/defcbbfad6655ca61be29babc0ed0ba8

[coarse nymph]

lmao

[viscid helm]

now change those mastery gems and enchants

to crit

[coarse nymph]

only 2,22

[quick talon]

man thats alot of effort

[lone junco]

ok. na gone bonkers.

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[dire spoke]

nice shop

[lone junco]

I wish.

[void pecan]

Just another day

in the good ol us of a

[quick talon]

thats only 38

need more

and still 175% mastery

need a second ring with crit

dont have any

He'll probably find some bananas

to complete his ape build

[void pecan]

Ook ook

[lone junco]

@gusty kestrel I ran my relics. 3vend 1bb 1malch 1env. turned out to be best for me. I tried like 10 different setups. My mastery isnt that high though.

[quick talon]

https://gyazo.com/374c5bb943cc17e4b36acc378a88f157

[simple python]

Do you guys do any form of pooling? Maybe like mutilate at 70-80 ?

[lone junco]

Sounds Iike clipping env.

@simple python Without capping e, you have a relatively constant energy gen. So you can delay your mut/env for a few seconds at times. If you just hammer them out you will drop env buff during Kb and leave the dps limp.

Right after vendetta. Fire away.

[jovial knot]

might boost a rogue to 100 kinda of new to wow should I do sin?

[sonic pawn]

i dont get how ive hit a wall at 2.1 mil dps on sims. And i see people with same gear as me sim higher, trying to switch everything around, high crit lower mast etc. Then i see some rogues with ALOT lower mastery than me simming tons higher. Brain is fried

ONLY thing i can think of is relic traits

im 6mAss 6mAlch atm with 2x BB

tried simming with full malch mass still only 30k higher

[coarse nymph]

6m ass

boi

your ass is HUGE

[shrewd oriole]

6 mass

[hoary copper]

Eh didn't know there was a patch. Do I really want to put a normal tonight

[shrewd oriole]

@sonic pawn what lego comp are you running

[sonic pawn]

Shoulder/Bracer

[shrewd oriole]

and you have 6 mass?

lmao

rip

[sonic pawn]

literally been simming everything the past few days, shoulder/bracer, boots/bracer

[quick talon]

6mass is cancer

when playing shoulders

[sonic pawn]

its what i have to deal with right now

[shrewd oriole]

dont play 6mass as shoulders

[dire spoke]

I have 7MAss and hardly find an upgrade - same cancer

[quick talon]

8th mass is huge

[shrewd oriole]

kek

[sonic pawn]

so how many should we aim for?

[quick talon]

7

[shrewd oriole]

5 or 7

never 6

[sonic pawn]

oh boi

[dire spoke]

never s*x

[quick talon]

6 is fine for boots/bracer tho

[shrewd oriole]

yew

[dire spoke]

but boots/bracer require fine crit

iirc

[sonic pawn]

i got crit for days

[dire spoke]

like what

[sonic pawn]

is the answer to "Why is 6 bad but 5 and7 are ok" in pins or somewhere?

close to 40% with an EoC laying around

[shrewd oriole]

yeah it is

but basically

cooldowns dont line up properly

[sonic pawn]

no wonder im struggling like fuck lining some of them bitches up

hmm i have a spare blood relic of vari, i can get to 7/7 mAss but dropping an mAlch

simming again smh

[hoary copper]

That was a fast.patch

[amber tundra]

so I got dreadlords deceit today. How efficient is it compared to the Talent ring(I have the bracers already)

[safe aurora]

Best Legendaries for M+ also, are there any talents i should change for M+?

[safe matrix]

Mantle/wrists are the best m+ build

And you don't really change anything

[strange python]

I don't think 6 mass messes up linings, it just doesn't affect them at all

[safe matrix]

Well it's not effective

Cause you're either messing up cds or holding vendetta for those 8 seconds anyways

[hoary copper]

I have 6 malch and 6 ma. Oops

[strange python]

@hoary copper patch?

[hoary copper]

Idk it said I had to download stuff when I got home

[strange python]

oh, yeah, not sure what that was.

[old quartz]

@viscid helm just about 50k less, but thinking of giving it a try on m vari

sims right on 2.2M

[grim canopy]

oh wow still no shoulders, so thats like 3 months of no mythic

fun expansion

rerolling end of expnasionj? Not this time around!

literally my last legendaries for every single character i've played has been the bis

this is absolute hell cancer

well doing less aoe than tank is interesting

[strange python]

it wont let me sim my char tried everything is there an alternative way i simm with m guild discord like i know this is gonna piss people off but im just trying to getter at rogue playing it nine days in total from 1 to 110 im assas 940 ilvl got 2 peice prysaz wrists at 177%mastery 31%crit doin 1.2mil lowest 1mil n that wason a 15 i wanna raid and do good

[drifting cosmos]

🤔 but sins arent for aoe tho

[strange python]

can someonme send me to a good guide?>

[lost horizon]

Check pins

[hoary copper]

I'm at 947 I aim about 1.6 or 1.7 so not that much lower

[keen inlet]

@strange python SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE

[supple mesa]

Quick question

[quick talon]

30inch

[supple mesa]

If I sim 16kdps lower running 206% mastery for a 2 ilvl over all upgrade

Is that correct?

Or should I stick with the mastery

bcause my top sim is like 166% mastery

[gaunt moat]

Quick answer

use what sims best

[quick talon]

mindblowing answer

[shrewd oriole]

notter is truly on an elevated mindset

[quick talon]

if only he wouldnt mute me regulary

[shrewd oriole]

a necessary sacrifice

[quick talon]

If only he would spend the time he wastes muting me

on fixing his sleep schedule

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

If only he would spend the time he wastes muting me
on conquering the holy city

deus vult

[quick talon]

damn

[shrewd oriole]

DEUS VULT

dude I think I've got my build

hear my out super crazy concept

[quick talon]

okay lets go

[shrewd oriole]

alright alright

I go necro

and i summon spectres

[quick talon]

pls

call him

negromancer

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

do you know

richchigga

[quick talon]

no

[shrewd oriole]

rip nvm

[quick talon]

whats that

[shrewd oriole]

an artist

[quick talon]

imagine

replacing the 2nd "ch" with a "n"

[shrewd oriole]

back when marauder summoner was bis I played a marauder called

[quick talon]

that'd be me IRL

[shrewd oriole]

"niggamancer"

[kindred cedar]

What's the opener for assa rogue with 4 set T21 and no legendary shoulders? Can't find it anywhere, only find opener for if you have shoulders

[shrewd oriole]

got me muted for like 3 days

[quick talon]

WHo muted you

[shrewd oriole]

http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

a ggg mod

[kindred cedar]

There's no opener there

[quick talon]

OOOoo

[shrewd oriole]

what

[kindred cedar]

for what im asking for.

as i dont play wit that talent

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/il5t5f

[kindred cedar]

subterfuge talent

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/il5t6o

but

it's

the

same

[kindred cedar]

dont use subterfuge

it is ?

[quick talon]

Well

just use the opener simc uses

[shrewd oriole]

p much yeah

[quick talon]

without shoulders, people may argue here

but i just go

garrote -> mut to 5 CP -> vanish -> rupture

[kindred cedar]

where do i find the simc opener?

[shrewd oriole]

on the api

[quick talon]

easiest is

sim yourself on raidbots

open the HTML report

[kindred cedar]

Quick sim myself?

[quick talon]

yes

then just send me the report and i'll screenSHOT it

[kindred cedar]

screenhost?

😄

[gaunt moat]

i tried sleeping. but it's purim in here (kinda similar to halloween)

and i live right next to an orthodox city

and their shit children are exploding firecrackers 24/7

there's litteraly an explosion every 1 second. the whole day.

[shrewd oriole]

: (

[quick talon]

Well

Poor notter

@shrewd oriole https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageCarefulMeatloafBIRB

one day i'll be as smooth as he is

[shrewd oriole]

FUCK MKE

I'M QUITE FORGETFUL

[scarlet lark]

hey quick question- should i be delaying vendetta for kingsbane?? and if so, for how long?

[shrewd oriole]

no

[stray pumice]

So i got one Master alchemist relic 965 with a garrote trait at the end and another one 950 with master assasin, should i use the 950 instead of the 965 with shitty traits? any help?

[nova pagoda]

sim it

[wise frigate]

[fringe zodiac]

so if i have 3 combo points and dont have garrote or poisoned blade rdy with vigor do i still press muttilate and override the one combo point

[civic palm]

MUT

I need a GIF for MUT.

[quick talon]

overwrite which combo point

the one you may get if you crit ?

[fringe zodiac]

yes

[quick talon]

yes you mut at 3 CP

[fringe zodiac]

okay

thx

[civic palm]

States so in the guide, generate to 4CP+, use CP appropriately.

[quick talon]

I just want to know if there's mut crit%

where you start spending CPs at 3 CP

[civic palm]

MUT doesn't deal enough damage to do that.

[quick talon]

huh ?

[civic palm]

If you are not ENVing at 4+CP you lose massive damage through the boosts you do get due to the lesser CP finishers.

This also means that you will be refreshing RUP more frequently.

Seal Fate CP waste from Mutilating at 3CP is never a problem.

Because you need to get to 4+ CP.

Otherwise you lose too much damage.

[fringe zodiac]

i played with deeper strat before thats why i was unsure never had the problem then

[shrewd oriole]

Wtf

Are you bleed?

[fringe zodiac]

no

[shrewd oriole]

why the hell do you play ds then

[civic palm]

DS was competitive at a point in time, that was a while go but still.

[fringe zodiac]

I said i played

not anymore

[shrewd oriole]

lol

[fringe zodiac]

oh another question do you play with subterfuge or nightstalker

sinc it says both is viable in the ravenholdt guide

[shrewd oriole]

Sim it

[fringe zodiac]

k

[civic palm]

NS will probably win regardless of gear so long you have legendaries.

IIRC it's close for most people.

[fringe zodiac]

yeah it does for me aswell

[civic palm]

👍

Also if it's within .5% use what you like.

[crystal fox]

wooooh https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/937184098684083898/F3DBBFF1A2C433416D9D9100ACF17075E41C7D14/

now i can go pro guys

quit wow

[civic palm]

uhhuh

[quick talon]

3rd person..

[civic palm]

FPP or you are a fucking child that should never be happy with your achievements.

You wall-peaking superhero BASTARD.

[crystal fox]

well im sooooooorry, but my friends only play ttp so i gotta practice with it 😦

[dire spoke]

dtf 😂

[civic palm]

Yeah well it's up to you to reform your "friends".

[lone junco]

@quick talon I ran the sim for finish at >=3

[dire spoke]

mize 👋

[civic palm]

👋

[lone junco]

it was pretty close. for env and rupture both.

[keen inlet]

playing boomkin, guardian lootspec

just got thrash leggo, which our beartank still doesn't have

AMA

[dire spoke]

ouh ouh ouh are we doing metas?

let me try

MfD for additional poison bomb

[lone junco]

NS env opener.

deal

[civic palm]

I use DFA Alacrity for WQ.

[lone junco]

actually best Bomb/min is . . . . MP Anti TB

[dire spoke]

[lone junco]

in full cleave the extra cps from the shoulder fok

fok env env fok env env

[civic palm]

Nice face dad.

Jeeez

[lone junco]

kinda joking, but not.

anyway. the 3cp env and 3cp rupture arent that bad.

[civic palm]

I mean once you are at ~5 targets you are generating more than 5CP.

[lone junco]

meaning you can prob do it in a clutch

[dire spoke]

that sounds like a lot of button smashing

[lone junco]

@civic palm right. hince the 10cp

[civic palm]

😄

[lone junco]

sub WM procs on 5mobs and will recast to give you 10

[civic palm]

and yeah a 3CP ENV at the tail of ENV/TB is probably more damage than MUT > ENV.

[lone junco]

its def ok imo

[civic palm]

Yeah.

[lone junco]

esp for clipping ep and env for uptime.

in weird spots

[civic palm]

Yep.

Especially when you can spot RUP timing being poor.

It's all very specific and not really what I think they were getting at.

[lone junco]

I think the 4+ gospel was more reasonable at much lower Mut crit rates.

I'm getting 3+ very often.

[civic palm]

There was a least a larger gap in DPS.

[dire spoke]

thanks for the reminder, need to do some more testing

I got KG ring today, crit jumped from 29 to 33 and it's a bliss

[crystal fox]

22% crit and i cri evry tiem

[civic palm]

I do think that if you are getting ~3 most of the time then the 1CP waste doesn't matter as you are getting phatter ENV.

Though we're not in NH and ENV isn't GODLIKE.

[dire spoke]

my mut crit is at 58-64%

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XHLn7ptRQAyfhzc2#fight=112&type=resources&source=797&spell=104

feelsgoodman

[primal tangle]

So I need to get good at assassin

really quickly

[crystal fox]

watch american ninja 1,2,3

[grim canopy]

man my orc rogue looks so cool

just hope sin can aoe in bfa

[crystal fox]

orc rogue? 🤢

[grim canopy]

coolest looking

[crystal fox]

belf master race or get out

[grim canopy]

sin is my most fav single targ rotation and gfx and transmogs

but then i do a dungeon that has those 10+ mob pulls

[dire spoke]

sin is like frost dk, except shit doesn't glow when you have to press it

[grim canopy]

and cry

[dire spoke]

[grim canopy]

whiel some random dh 30 ilvl lower do more aoe

With some anime name

[crystal fox]

i just love people who go like "nice aoe rogue,lol" then i do 75% of the dmg on the next boss and their jaws drop

[nimble basin]

is bleed build actually higher dps than poisons now? or herodmg sims inaccurate

[grim canopy]

monk does good st too tho

[supple hearth]

imagine making fun of a class when u dont know how the game works

[civic palm]

Imagine making fun of PEOPLE.

[supple hearth]

Making fun of people is fine

as long as you know what it is youre making fun of

[civic palm]

Also when they made the choice you are making fun of.

Otherwise you're just an asshole.

[dire spoke]

uhm

while TB we don't wait for clipping, rather spam env right?

at least I feelycraft having more output since I really have an eye on this 👀

[tight meteor]

can someone like me the alacrity build

[crystal fox]

👍

[manic vigil]

[tight meteor]

is this a meme or is this real

im confused

[gaunt moat]

stahp.

[tight meteor]

D: im sorry

[manic vigil]

How would notter know tho doesn't even play the game

[crystal fox]

who is this poe guy named notter?

[manic vigil]

no snappy comeback?

[gaunt moat]

Piece Of Excellence?

[manic vigil]

ah there we go

[crystal fox]

what's that other word for poop that starts with an E...

[cursive hatch]

sorry guys, I told Toma about the meme spec

I did this

[crystal fox]

exsanguinate me daddy

erm i mean.. hi

[dire spoke]

[manic vigil]

is there news from our Lord and Savior Flowi btw?

What is his latest revelation

[plain thistle]

EP+ALACRITY

[manic vigil]

also #modflowi2018

[plain thistle]

that was the last one

🤔

no, mod me

[manic vigil]

I like that attitude

clearly you have to debate it then

that's gonna be fun 🍿

[quick talon]

Mod me

HAHA

[sudden trench]

Nah your toxic af

[quick talon]

Wtf

Who are you

[sudden trench]

Exactly!

[quick talon]

Im not Toxic

Friendly boi

[manic vigil]

you are fucking hipster racist tho

don't like it tbh

flowi just really hates all people equally