assassination

[wise frigate]

I SUPPOSE I HAVE TIME TO HELP YOU x10

[honest jolt]

should rupture be up no matter what cp you reapply at?

[gaunt moat]

well you wanna use finishers at 4-5 CPs (surge of toxins / higher PB chance)

there's no real reason to use rupture below that unless the target will die soon

and even then, you get the energy refunded when it dies

[honest jolt]

<I sometimes find myself having to choose between refreshing rupture or keeping envenom up

obviously rupture takes priority outside of KB, but yeah

[jovial kite]

[night vale]

Thats one of my issues, knowing when to refresh rupture and when i should cast envenom to keep buff up

[dire spoke]

I'm hungryyyyy

[warm parcel]

https://i.imgur.com/jIFumHS.png
@viscid helm

🎸

[jovial kite]

hosted on my server

thats why i said

host it there

[midnight latch]

[keen inlet]

[jovial kite]

just host

the mirrored one

bro

[supple hearth]

👺

[midnight latch]

oh shit

run bois

[supple hearth]

!mute @don jose

[jovial kite]

HIDE

[midnight latch]

hides

[jovial kite]

hides

[gaunt moat]

@keen inlet are you okay? :x

[lost horizon]

🤔

[zealous dew]

#savethemod

[keen inlet]

oh

wow

that is super awkward

legit thought this was a different discord.

[zealous dew]

he's not ok

[jovial kite]

[keen inlet]

/tar self !ban

[midnight latch]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[jovial kite]

[little shell]

new assasin rogue boyz

[jovial kite]

screenshotted btw

[midnight latch]

Don showing his trueself

[keen inlet]

I sperged

demote me

[little shell]

with vendette up is it worth renewing rupture or should u evenom, or prior to vendetta should you make sure ur dots have full up time before vendetta?

[spare cloud]

yes

[little shell]

to which

[dire spoke]

time for simmerino ringerino

[lone junco]

@jovial kite have you simmed EP/Alac to be anywhere close to exang?

[jovial kite]

havent tried it

[lone junco]

mine is 20k shy. so ill be using it on Argus.

[jovial kite]

its probably close

but my relics are bad for it

[lone junco]

vendetta is best

made me lol

[jovial kite]

im talking about rup

[lone junco]

I swapped vend for 7/Malch or 7malch 2bb . huge mix. all were a loss over my current, 3v 1bb 1env 1malch

[keen inlet]

@lone junco you gonna go with the new alacrity meta

[lone junco]

anyway the rotation is numbingly simple

ran snd on garothi, and held almost 2.2m until the execute. and then it fell off. but the focus is intense.

i prefer the driving ms daisy of sin.

effort v reward isnt there.

[jovial kite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iUvd4dLXMzArKj2X5ghgPv

[dire spoke]

hmmm

[jovial kite]

not bad actually

80k off

[keen inlet]

@fervent beacon ey

[jovial kite]

@lone junco

[keen inlet]

are they ever going to fix oforum Post History

it's impossible to keep up with topics

[lone junco]

weights are good for it.

not eveyone has a bazillion crit, so its niche still. but high crit is >>all

btw. I ran 3cp env 3cp ruptures, and it is almost a wash.

[jovial kite]

insig probably better

[lone junco]

99% ep 98 env 96 2p

nay

[jovial kite]

simming now

[lone junco]

you can try, but i ran the whole spectrum last night.

[jovial kite]

t20 not that big value i think in alac

[lone junco]

bracer boot. ep vig alac. crit high. 3vend. no t20

[jovial kite]

feelycrafting here

[lone junco]

yours may be the exception due to ilvl.

btw Subterfuge >

by quite a bit.

I hate subterfuge

[honest quiver]

at how many cloak stacks do i use fok ST

[lone junco]

I have a WA to tell me >25

but you want 30

[honest quiver]

👌

[lone junco]

and it is shit in ST

unless it is your best

[honest quiver]

: (

it's a dire situation

[lone junco]

@jovial kite gonna lol if sephuz steps back out due to the massive crit.

but anyway. bracer boot. ep subt vig alac.

beat TB by 30k

all of these beat my best MPTb substantially

crit weight is like 55

btw. Fun fact

alacrity resets KB

the poison hits with 95% env.

I checked bracer hat for that reason. still a loss

[jovial kite]

20 ilvl lower t20 beats non set offpiece

by 20k

[zealous dew]

i have a question

[keen inlet]

in poison gear

Hmm

[zealous dew]

what do you do with pantheon blessing when your trinket is 1000 already

[lone junco]

your crit is low don

[zealous dew]

mail it back to indie company ?

[lone junco]

thats funny

vendor?

literally fell asleep outside kingo

[keen inlet]

wait

show me the log

[lone junco]

we pulled. and the priest pulled him around

[keen inlet]

oh he wasn't in

[lone junco]

he lived.

[keen inlet]

was gonna say

[lone junco]

our priest gripped him over and over

[keen inlet]

did he still parse like

[zealous dew]

lolz

[median marsh]

isn't grip like 2 minutes?

[lone junco]

he lived the whole fight

getting log. disregard my snd

looks like he woke up and meta last add

[jovial kite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bh7QnFr7iFmwvzcUXEjoH9

yeah cant get higher than this

[lone junco]

@jovial kite effectively amanthuls weights. what is your live bleed? 2.34?

[jovial kite]

yeah

[dense yarrow]

1 quick question, is a 2nd MA trait worth 15 ilvls?

[lone junco]

@jovial kite my bleed is 2.08 with this epalac at 2.06. good enough for my poison duty on argus.

[dense yarrow]

as the herodmg doesn't take into account 2ma, only 3??? 😮

[lone junco]

it does.

the 2ma is just a loss with shoulders due to vendetta/vanish timings.

[dense yarrow]

okay so i wont go for it okay

[lone junco]

if you are bracer boot, vendetta is only a good thing.

and then 3ma is great

[dire spoke]

hmmmmm

[dense yarrow]

kinda feel bad to get rid of shoulders 😄

[lone junco]

thats up to you. Im packing them up except for sub.

but 45% crit is 💸

[dense yarrow]

i only have 29% crit

how much mastery you have with 45% crit?

[dense yarrow]

oh shiz

[keen inlet]

heh

[lone junco]

can spread from 28/190 to 45/139

shoulder bracer is just not my best.

[dense yarrow]

i got 29/183 :Z

[dire spoke]

should I pick 2.138m DPS with 29% crit
or 2.135m DPS with 33% crit

[dense yarrow]

i lose 20k dps without shoulders according to sims

[lone junco]

ok

[keen inlet]

[lone junco]

1% champ

[keen inlet]

and mastery still sims 6+ over crit

[lone junco]

cause you are stuck in a stat hole

bracer boot, just add 20 to your crit weight. and put it all on. then re run.

rip agi

[keen inlet]

yeah

tempting tbh

i do have some decent offset shoulders

noobe

ready for some mature content?

[keen inlet]

Kitchen Renovation Simulator 2k18
Ikea Edition

[lone junco]

totally want a hood that goes outside.

[dire spoke]

gotta love thos empty corners

[lone junco]

ours is a fucking screen that just pushes the air back in the kitchen

[keen inlet]

I can't figure out how to do the shelving, but we're gonna be doing open shelves and rails with hooks

rather than the utterly useless cabinets that are there now

@dire spoke the corner is a stealth lazy susan

[lone junco]

we did really good shelves, but have a cubbard

[keen inlet]

it's kinda ingenious.

[lone junco]

uptime 98

[keen inlet]

You pull the door and it pulls out a half-circle, so the corner storage isn't wasted

[jovial kite]

oh nvm

looked wrong paragraph

[lone junco]

there is a q about uptime vs benefit

I think it has to do with duration after death, and also overlapping buff benefits.

[keen inlet]

@lone junco we're gonna have to install the range hood but it's worth it for resale. We've got the same thing as you right now--crappy "filter" vent

[lone junco]

but. that is what Flowi/Jhonwei is basing off. you can achive better than sim with proper clips.

we are short on cabinet space so the vent cabinet will go away when I get an island.

oh yeah. I got targeted back to back on varith.

[keen inlet]

yeah design is gonna have an island

tool's just being dumb

[lone junco]

was wondering what happened to my parse

anyway., looking at kb timing.

kb 30sec apart

and also, im horrible with subterfuge and no 2p

over and over i fired off garrote, then vanished without garrote.

[keen inlet]

rip

[lone junco]

@jovial kite here's my hot take on exang vs ep poison.

Exang timing occasionally sucks but is bursty. heavy reliance on bota at exang for rng push. Very jousty. solid dependable dps.

the ep/alac was a high baseline dmg with lower burst. but with all stats scaling better, it will eventually pass my exang, it utilizes your Env/4p to feed energy. very constant. solid dependable dps.

[solid field]

So we finished Heroic Argus in my guild. I was lucky enough to just come back to raiding in time to do that. Now they want to start mythic on thursday. I'm only 943 but i'm the magic number 20 in our group. Mythic doable at 943?

[lone junco]

lolol 😭

[patent topaz]

Heroic argus, do you raid 1h a week?

[viscid helm]

940 is more than fine

[solid field]

NO BOOLI PLZ

lol

2 days, only.

According to them, they had a MT leave them.. I wans't around for that.

[viscid helm]

i mean i cant remember when was the last time we had as easy raid as antorus

[patent topaz]

Cant imagine, feel sorry for you

[hoary copper]

Eh I'll never see Aotc this raid, just gearing up alts to figure out which one I'll probably play for bfa at this point

[lone junco]

Method beat mythic argus at 953.

[patent topaz]

My guild has some pretty bad players, also reclears leave us with like 2 hours of progress a week

[dire spoke]

@shrewd oriole I'm to dumb for argus https://snag.gy/Hj54fD.jpg

[lone junco]

ours.

Id like to pull garothi.

[hoary copper]

My guild has pretty much fallen apart, I have yet to find a new one and dont have the money to transfer at the moment

[patent topaz]

I think my raid is 969 avg

6/11

Xd

[hoary copper]

Is that Normal Zempai?

.>

[dire spoke]

no? <.<

[keen inlet]

For the vast majority of players in wow, normal and heroic are progression raids. And that's fine.

It's better to think about raid difficulties like weight classes in boxing.

[patent topaz]

Cant imagine, but when youve been playing since vanilla it is different than most people playing wow

[hoary copper]

I'm just done pugging. I can't people anymore!

[keen inlet]

Kinda! But like

[patent topaz]

If I had to pug id kms

[dire spoke]

@hoary copper I'm pugging with Tom

[keen inlet]

you wouldn't judge a heavyweight boxer against a welterweight boxer. or it's not a "fair" comparison

So you have people compete against their peers.

[hoary copper]

I thought you were guilded together @dire spoke

[urban storm]

I’m losing motivation to keep raiding. 5/11M but we have ppl who can’t attend some nights

[keen inlet]

progression within class. But wow players, especially high end raiders, have a really hard time seeing or accepting that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone junco]

(thats why fixed roster sucks)

[viscid helm]

its fine

i lost all motivation 3 months ago

[patent topaz]

There are 3 rogue mains in my 1000 char guild

[dire spoke]

Tom doesn't want me, I'm high maintenance

[patent topaz]

Nobody plays rogue

[viscid helm]

now i just pay gold so i can bench

farm

[hoary copper]

I've lost mine this week, even hc Kin seems to be too much for people. People are just so toxic about stuff

[zealous dew]

i've just pugged HC

9 monks

all above 2.7m on king

not bad

[solid field]

@patent topaz Don't feel sorry, i've just bene resubbed for 3 weeks so I didn't get to go through all the wiping. The night we killed him it was a 2 shot. So i'm not sure why they were having so much trouble.

[patent topaz]

What so people ask for hc pug nowdays?

You pop sef on pull though

Just not tod

[hoary copper]

That's a lot of mini monks

[vapid moth]

@dire spoke you play eonar with sub?

[patent topaz]

Monk is fun and damage feels op as heck

[hoary copper]

I dont find monk that fun for whatever reason. Idk why

[patent topaz]

Most fun melee

[dire spoke]

@vapid moth I don't bother on heroic anymore - that's an old parse hahahah ... I'm usually afk now

[zealous dew]

it's not at all

[vapid moth]

Bruen are you horde?

[patent topaz]

Ret and enh shaman are the least fun forcme

[hoary copper]

Alliance

See I love enh. I just hate feeling like wet tissue paper

[keen inlet]

I'm sadly alliance too

but

zandalari druid

idk man

idk

bye, friends and family

[vernal adder]

man those forms look great

[hoary copper]

Those new Zandalari forms for boomkin and guardian are pretty nifty

[patent topaz]

Alliance in 2018 though

[zealous dew]

mmm do I want a 12h/day job ?

I guess not

[patent topaz]

No

[vernal adder]

🤔

[zealous dew]

I asked a lot 😃

[plush dune]

What's the best talents to use for bleed build

[keen inlet]

Early Alpha screenshot of a Zandalari guardian druid using Maul

[patent topaz]

8.5h is long enough, cant imagine doing 12

[vernal adder]

I work 7.5h

[hoary copper]

I used to do 14-16 hour days a lot. Kills you after a few months

[zealous dew]

I work at home

still 9h

oh well we will see

[patent topaz]

I wouldnt get much done working from home

[vernal adder]

^

[hoary copper]

Yea I was under the Magic Kingdom too so I'd go in and it was dark and I'd leave and it was dark

plus no windows

[keen inlet]

Taunt intensifies

[vernal adder]

under the small dino

[hoary copper]

Aw Ducky 😦

[fathom wyvern]

YUP YUP YUP

[vapid moth]

@hoary copper I could take you pugging then

[hoary copper]

Dont google what happened to the voice actor for Ducky

[vernal adder]

I've got haste chests from weekly chest 3 weeks in a row

[hoary copper]

That would be cool, I'd appreciate that if the times could ever work.

[vapid moth]

I've gotten haste anything for the past 5 or so weeks

[vernal adder]

fun aint it

[lone junco]

@viscid helm i ran your ep/alac on farm. was the best lazy spec possible. The faster kb reset was nice. other than that doesnt beat my exang but man it was ezpz.

zzz to win.

[vapid moth]

Doesn't that mean the helm would be better?

[lone junco]

i checked. still bracer boot.

[vapid moth]

Damn

[lone junco]

but i have 3vendettas and that came in highest still. you can check hat. T21 hat is pretty good.

[jovial kite]

i tried it just now on dummy

feels so smooth when you get 20 stacks

afkmode

initiated

[lone junco]

you swap out the 1000ilvl agi trinket when you get amanthuls right?

we dont get both

[vapid moth]

Lol who has Aman thuls

[lone junco]

lol 4% drop to use amanthul

[night vale]

question, if i apply rupture with <=30% of the original duration remaining then the outstanding duration gets added to the new duration right? due to pandemic

However, my WA is retarded and glows when <=7 secs on rupture (so i know to re-apply it)

In times where i 4 CP rupture and refresh at 7 seconds am i losing the outstanding duration cause 30% would technically be 6 seconds on a 4CP rupture?

[vapid moth]

No. You get the added time

It just saves up to that amount

So if you don't let it tick till like 5 seconds you lose some damage

[night vale]

okay so i see if i refresh a 4CP rupture at 7 seconds remaining i effectively just lose 1 second of rupture right? cause it only saves 6 seconds in that case?

[drifting cloud]

thats correct yes

[night vale]

Thanks guys 😃 much appreciated, would check on training dummy but away from computer atm

[vapid moth]

Np

[cold oracle]

Weekly chest this week, Sephuz and big haste, small vers legs. GG.

[gilded crest]

Dustwalkers + Ravenholdt Ring sims insanely high for me (highest of all combos), any1 who has that too?

[worthy thistle]

That's why u don't do weekly m+ anymore

[jovial kite]

[worthy thistle]

Cant get haste gear if u don't get a chest

[vapid moth]

@gilded crest what’s your dps

[gilded crest]

thats Shoudlers + bracers

Dustwalkers + Ravenholdt ring

[vapid moth]

You’re using subterfuge

[shrewd oriole]

Could be your off pieces

[lone junco]

Insig can be good.

[shrewd oriole]

oh yeah for sure

[lone junco]

most ive seen is insig bracer

@ is that like 970 ilvl?

[gilded crest]

just checked nightstalker, mantle bracers gets better, but still 50k behind dust + ring

[shrewd oriole]

what are your off pieces

[lone junco]

also try EP/Sub/Vig/Tb

[gilded crest]

off pieces shoulders + hands

[shrewd oriole]

yeah but how good are they compared to your other pieces

is what I'm saying

[lone junco]

your crit is prob too low for that. but EP buffs all the things

@jovial kite tbh, will be nice to drop the tryhard, and still beat eveyone in my raid.

[gilded crest]

how can I have my gear shown on a raidbot sim

[lone junco]

click the html link

[shrewd oriole]

ring's only 0.5% worse than boots for me on sims

about same as bracers

[shrewd oriole]

whats your second ring

[lone junco]

1002 wep champ

it is what it is. grats youre an insig bro now

[fast nacelle]

💪🏿

[lone junco]

prob has to do with your shitty crit on 3rd ring.

[shrewd oriole]

not playing shoulders bracers in 2018

[gilded crest]

thats with mantle

[vapid moth]

985 pants lol

[shrewd oriole]

yeah that's it

your second ring is poo

lol

[lone junco]

not everyone has a 960 thumbring

[gilded crest]

ya that 945 really sucks dick

[fast nacelle]

960 tumbring 🤔

970 pls

[dire spoke]

Tom I got a 99 on AHC

[shrewd oriole]

nice

[jovial kite]

farm time

[shrewd oriole]

farm tomorrow 😴

[lone junco]

I ran most as snd

what a mess.

died on imonar

[jovial kite]

@shrewd oriole arent you supposed to farm ur israeli gf

[lone junco]

good thing I got 75 in outlaw.

[jovial kite]

tomptation island

[lone junco]

benched until BFA

[dire spoke]

@shrewd oriole how was your vegan food on the WE

😏 you also got dessert?

[shrewd oriole]

ahahah

that's on saturday

@dire spoke dude

dont even fucking

I went to a restaurant yday and the waiter dropped a bit of sauce on my fucking gucci sweater

I was

so

fucking

tilted

[dire spoke]

[shrewd oriole]

I was actually very

[dire spoke]

did you insult his mother like a real gentleman

[shrewd oriole]

nah

i wish doe

😦

I insulted yours tho when I got 1 PB in the whole AHC fight

[dire spoke]

👺

son of a greenparser

[quick talon]

Gucci sweater

🍆👍🏿

[shrewd oriole]

yeah dude

I got op irl racials

[dire spoke]

must be his only good sweater

[shrewd oriole]

zempai typing for the longest time then deleting

[lone junco]

I bought an expensive shirt from armani to impress a girl once. oy we still make fun of it occasionally.

https://giphy.com/gifs/stacerizz-l0DEKov4X5Yee3cOI

[shrewd oriole]

I went shopping with my mom after my last relationship ended

Was actually very releasing

T h e r a p e u t I c

😠

Of course

[jovial kite]

but MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha

She likes buying me stuff

[shrewd oriole]

So I don’t need to cry

[quick talon]

truth be told

[shrewd oriole]

AHAHHAAHAHAH

[jovial kite]

thats

[shrewd oriole]

True

[jovial kite]

actually pretty fucking 👌

[hoary copper]

I mean when you live in her basement Tom, you play by her rules

[jovial kite]

saved

solid meme

[shrewd oriole]

Dude bruen

[lone junco]

that fucking shirt was like 130$

[shrewd oriole]

My mom is actually so sad I moved out

😦

Fit on point

130 for a sweater is aight

[blazing badge]

Hello everyone, I have a question, at the critical level, the minimum to have and how much? I see a lot of roe between 30 & 35% crit ...

[shrewd oriole]

Shirt I mean

[lone junco]

was like 30lbs ago too.

[shrewd oriole]

Fair fair

I mean, nowadays it’s pretty aight

[quick talon]

WELL

965 eoc in chest

LETS GOOO

[shrewd oriole]

What the

You’re gay

[lone junco]

if i did college again, i would prob get an std.

[quick talon]

toxin

[lone junco]

keep yourself simmed

[shrewd oriole]

Sim yourself kids

[jovial kite]

@quick talon what

kysimmed

[hoary copper]

There's not an amount of crit to aim for, its whatever your statweights are @blazing badge It usually sims pretty high after mastery tho

So sim yoself

[remote kraken]

are there any rogues with Amanthuls? Would like to ask sth to be sure - my golg 995 sims 15k better single target than ama, is it a relevant result? any experiences with aman/golg on single/aoe/m+?

[hoary copper]

http://i.imgur.com/DdMAVrY.gif

[shrewd oriole]

Amanthuls is probably better on aoe

[shadow oyster]

So I habe a question should I be casting Kingsbane before envenom or after?

[shrewd oriole]

But that’s it

[shadow oyster]

Have*

[lone junco]

@remote kraken for me. my 1000 argus is 4% over an amanthul

@shadow oyster both.

sandwich that shit.

[shadow oyster]

Ok just making sure I was doing it right

[lone junco]

goal is 100% env uptime during kb.

[remote kraken]

thanks for exp, will try it today on argus

[shadow oyster]

Thanks @lone junco

[shrewd oriole]

What’s point

It’s not even good

It’s alright in aoe but that’s it

[lone junco]

i was hoping the weights for amanthul would help my ep/alac.

it did not.

[shrewd oriole]

I found it odd tho that you still get blessings

[lone junco]

my stuff is like 44/41/38/35/28

[shrewd oriole]

Even if your trinket is 1000

[lone junco]

28 being agi

[remote kraken]

i was expecting poison bombs with that much mastery on 30- percent to overcome golg on single

[quick talon]

Well other classes have more trinkets, tom

[blazing badge]

@hoary copper Currently I have two orientation, I have 206 Mastery and 27% crit or so 180 Mastery and 34% crit ...

[remote kraken]

was very surprised by that sim

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah o know I find it weird it drops for us

[dire spoke]

my switch setup rn https://snag.gy/wgfLV7.jpg

[hoary copper]

Sim yourself to see which gearset has better dps

[lone junco]

if you want bombs, you need crit for cps.

[shrewd oriole]

Kappa

[hoary copper]

http://i.imgur.com/DdMAVrY.gif

[shrewd oriole]

Haste for more finishers

[lone junco]

@dire spoke rip

[remote kraken]

I dont get questions

[shrewd oriole]

I think he meant 30% boss go

[lone junco]

.6 is sadness

[shrewd oriole]

Hp*

[remote kraken]

yes

[lone junco]

if you get them in the shoulder during tb.

lol

gl with your dice

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[dire spoke]

@lone junco what am I looking at

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve seen 20

[lone junco]

if you can find a way to push 30% pb, we are talking.

[blazing badge]

the% of crit affects the proc rate of the poison bomb?

[lone junco]

@dire spoke just the relative gain you posted, without the box checked

[shrewd oriole]

Christ

Look what you’ve done noobe

[lone junco]

@blazing badge crit pushes CPs. you need cps for env.

[shrewd oriole]

Someone link the evolution picture again

[calm grail]

Nightmare egg shell and alacrity 30% PB ez

[lone junco]

ez

[dire spoke]

oh ahahahah

sorry

[shrewd oriole]

Surrounded by 🐵

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole myb.

[shrewd oriole]

Wow common

I’m only half black

😦

[calm grail]

Zingggg

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[quick talon]

👀

[shrewd oriole]

To quote a great philanthropist of my generation

[dire spoke]

gang

[shrewd oriole]

My nose is wide, my dick is big, I’m a proud monkey

• Kendrick Lamar

[calm grail]

[blazing badge]

@lone junco thank you for your answers, in any case be under the bar of 30% crit and very low

[shrewd oriole]

Mods googling lyrics to check if it’s actually a quote

[quick talon]

The blacker the berry

[shrewd oriole]

The sweeter the juice

[hoary copper]

the sweeter the juice?

Jinx

[shrewd oriole]

Someone should parody new work out plan and make it sound like a guide

Wait

[quick talon]

Tom future RH rapper

[shrewd oriole]

You just popped in the @gaunt moat
Get right for the summer raiding tape
And fellas if you follow these instructions exactly
You might bear to pull you an orange, a spot in a top guild
Man, at least a guild wit' a cutting edge
So first of all we gon' work on the sims
Nobody wants a little dumb ass!

[viscid helm]

[shrewd oriole]

Wow

Toxic

[hoary copper]

🥄

[quick talon]

Flowi casually dropping by

[gaunt moat]

Isn't rap supposed to rhyme?

[shrewd oriole]

No

[solid field]

@lone junco Did you ever get your gpu installed? Was thinking about buying that same card. Wondering how you liked it.

[shrewd oriole]

It’s the intro to the song not the song itself

But rap, much like poetry, does not rhyme

Restricting yourself to rhyme is a common framework for beginners poetry but many renown poets often did not use rhyme at all

[lone junco]

@solid field price was right, and it auto set at medium settings. Im fine with that.

135$. I did buy a good battery backup though. 80$

[shrewd oriole]

https://youtu.be/ylT16QB6Uig

[lone junco]

I suspect the electrical in my house, so this is my security blanket

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve never seen an electrical blanket

I’ve heard of them but the concept is totally foreign to me lol

[lone junco]

they are great.

[shrewd oriole]

They sound great lol it’s just never cold here

[lone junco]

my wife hates them, so i got a small. it goes over my feet and legs. auto shut off after about 2hrs.

[heavy plover]

I just got a 960 Master Assasin relic, with a Master Poison on the third row to replace my 945 Master Poison relic, with a Gushing Wound on the bottom row, but its showing as a DPS loss? 🤔

[solid field]

must be 2

counting that one

[heavy plover]

3

[lone junco]

and gushing wound sucks

click the button for your build.

https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/relics/1t-t21-rogue-assassination-mantle-bracers

otherwise sim your shit

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/relic

[heavy plover]

But replacing a higher MA relic, with a 15 ilvl increase should be a DPS increase, i'll try raidbots again

[lone junco]

link the report after you relic compare.

[heavy plover]

sure, gimmie a sec bud

I don't have bracers, or boots

[lone junco]

🤔

[shrewd oriole]

[heavy plover]

966 without bracer or boots, 3 leggos left

[lone junco]

shoulder hat?

[heavy plover]

yeah i'm running shoulder/head atm

[autumn trench]

🤤

[quick talon]

985+ socket

fucking legend

[lone junco]

ahem. crit socket.

[pallid fiber]

uhm girl's n' guy's, can some1 tell me why 1x MA / 3xMA ? like where is 2x MA in the list of Herodamage.com :x

[plain thistle]

because 2 MA cause simc to not align CDs, which results in dps loss

[pallid fiber]

but might be just the sims? or is it actually dps loss O.O :x well i guess i have to sim this

[viscid helm]

its a 0 DPS increase with mantle

[quick talon]

O.O :x

[viscid helm]

since you need to hold

[heavy plover]

bracer/mantle, is simming 40k lower than head/shoulder, i have a good replacement for the helmet aswell

[pallid fiber]

well, but i still play with mantle + bracer or?

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

Don’t listen to the infidels who dont

[rose sequoia]

Is it optimal to refresh bleeds at last second or highest pandemic timer?

[void pecan]

Pandemic.

Unless TB is coming up

[patent topaz]

highest simming gear xd

[ancient sonnet]

dis mine

https://gyazo.com/3b28627c4f97e568973b7d9da04a7a48

[orchid prawn]

bleed begone

[ancient sonnet]

sims 40k higher than poison boop spec

bleedyboi op

[orchid prawn]

ye im just messing with ya

[shrewd oriole]

If y’all want proof we came from monkeys here it is

Someone going back to their roots

[orchid prawn]

"in time" is just bad to put in title imo, like they're expecting to just barely complete it

[halcyon pumice]

is there somewhere I can go to read more in-depth rogue/assa guides? i reference the ravenholdt guide a lot but i'm interested in learning about pandemic timers(?), energy pooling, etc

[shrewd oriole]

Notter’s guide addresses pandemic

It’s a general wow mechanic so you can just google it as well

[patent topaz]

my monk with unoptimized stats and no pantheon sims 70k higher than rogue now

[shrewd oriole]

There’s not much to assa tho tbh lol

[patent topaz]

🤔

[void pecan]

#balanced

[patent topaz]

6 ilevels lower as well

[shrewd oriole]

Monk btw

[quick talon]

How much does your monk simn at what ilvl ?

[patent topaz]

2.133 at 966

[quick talon]

idk

i had that with my rogue, too

🤷🏿

[patent topaz]

rogue sims 2.078

[shrewd oriole]

Wtf your rogue is shit

[prime void]

😂😂

[patent topaz]

at 972

[prime void]

Tom savage

[shrewd oriole]

Nice shit gear wtf

[void pecan]

I'm at 966? 2.08sim..

I must be shit

Someone help

[shrewd oriole]

I sim 2.3M at 972

[prime void]

How unoptimized are you lmfao

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[patent topaz]

linked my stats a few mins ago

[shrewd oriole]

“My monk has sub optimal stats”

[patent topaz]

pretty shit

[shrewd oriole]

“My monk”

Cuz I’m good

Good players get good loot

[quick talon]

🤔

[shrewd oriole]

After two weeks of coming to my heroic runs zempai did a 99 today

My sheer presence made him better

He is my acolyte

[quick talon]

Maybe your group isnt full 🎷

kill timers do matter

[shrewd oriole]

Soon to fight beside me in the autism that is ravenhold

Sorry I meant in the acoustic live guitar show that is ravenholdt

My phone autocorrected

[void pecan]

you can..

edit on phone..

you dingus

[quick talon]

That effort

editing on phone

fuck that

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

[void pecan]

LLul

[shrewd oriole]

I own up to my jokes

[void pecan]

LOL

[orchid cove]

LUL

[shrewd oriole]

Got em

[void pecan]

MODS

[quick talon]

SHOPPED WTFF

[shrewd oriole]

QUICK FINGER TOM

[orchid cove]

obv

[shrewd oriole]

LUCKY LUKE TOM?

[quick talon]

Apes of ravenholdt doing it again

faster than his shadows

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[potent spoke]

I've got a question regarding Assassination, am I able to ask it here?

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

[void pecan]

DEPENDS

[shrewd oriole]

Not with that avatar

[potent spoke]

It's simple enough!

[patent topaz]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oDgEFqZQATTdQh9TM5zCMx top gear said 2.078

hmm

[shrewd oriole]

Is that mumble icon

[patent topaz]

whatever

[void pecan]

Ventrillo?

[potent spoke]

It's Ventrilo

[shrewd oriole]

Ventrílo in 2018

[potent spoke]

It's just how I roleplay

[void pecan]

ASK YOUR QUESTION WHITE NAME

[potent spoke]

Anyways.

You can get 4 combo pts from both Mut hits critting.

• Should I use a finisher then?

Or should I...
*Mut again, risking the waste of 3 combo points
*Fan of knives to get the 1 last..

[gaunt moat]

!mute @quick talon

[chrome tusk]

@quick talon is now 🙊here!

[prime void]

:0

[void pecan]

env at 4+

[prime void]

Use a finisher

[potent spoke]

Alright.

Well that's about it. This spec isn't too complicated beyond that, and I love it for that, hohoho.

[void pecan]

you CAN use garrote if you're using 2pc 20

but it's.. not a big deal

[hoary copper]

Maybe he should be renamed iLose

[void pecan]

Wow.

[midnight latch]

[patent topaz]

ok my monk sims 7k lower using quicksim, crisis averted

[potent spoke]

Are there any Weakauras you guys looove or should I just browse through Wago?

[hoary copper]

I think I actually have Notters

[void pecan]

the guide

up at the top

has a WA a lot of people use

[potent spoke]

The top..

Ah, I see it now.

[shrewd oriole]

Those are cool

[zealous dew]

still scoring 99% with 3PK

relics

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t use them myself but always recommend them

[zealous dew]

way to go boyz

[shrewd oriole]

Ilvl logs btw

[strange python]

in the pins, Notter's weakauras are good. If not kind of small.

I use them. but made them bigger.

[void pecan]

I use.. ipse's on wagio

[strange python]

ipse's has too much fluff

[potent spoke]

Luckily with this spec I don't think you need really complex weakauras, but for te time being I've been tracking DoTs by looking at the uh, healthbar on the boss which kinda takes my attention away from the ground.

[strange python]

like, I don't need to see cloak cooldown.

[hoary copper]

Does ipse have timers for Cloak/Evasion/feint? It might be that one

[void pecan]

Yes

[solid field]

I use infexious'

[potent spoke]

THose things I'd probably disable, yeah

[solid field]

I like his.

Think you have to $$$ to get his now tho

[strange python]

really

[hoary copper]

Then I lied before. Its ipse. Cloak timer is useful for timing sometimes

[strange python]

that is lame.

[shrewd oriole]

Really

That’s so scummy

Just makes me not wanna sub

[potent spoke]

That's the dumbest thing ever

[shrewd oriole]

I subbed to frag for a month just for his weakauras

Guy actually doesn’t disable your access after a month

[gaunt moat]

my UI scaling is a bit higher than average, so i think that's why it's small for some people.
if you increase it, they should be fine.

[shrewd oriole]

So I just get free weak auras forever

[strange python]

can i sub, get the paste, and refund

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

Can just ask someone as well

Charging for weak auras is very lame tho

[solid field]

can you send me frags? 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

When I’m home sure

At work rn, almost done tho

[solid field]

thanks

[hoary copper]

Done already?

[prime void]

Wait why don't you want cloak in your WA's? @strange python

[potent spoke]

Looking at this guide, especially the opener, do you actually not bother trying to have rupture cast at 5 combo pts?

[strange python]

because I can already see it on my fucking action bar

[shrewd oriole]

No difference

^ but how many tanks

[prime void]

That was a bit hostile

Looking at your action bar is shit :)

[shrewd oriole]

Cya procs

[prime void]

Probably like you and your hostile attitude

[shrewd oriole]

I have a weak aura that tells me if cloak is up

And one that tells me the remaining duration

[prime void]

Thats shit tom. Its on your actionbar

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t track the remaining cd tho

My action bars are all no show tho

[prime void]

Same tbh

@potent spoke correct

[strange python]

wasn't trying to be hostile towards you. more of a remark on how dumb I think those weakauras are. so much fluff.

[prime void]

You'll refresh it at pandemic so its nbd

I mean, why have cloak in a place where I have to look away

[shrewd oriole]

Looking at bars is the truly dumb thing

[prime void]

^^^^

[strange python]

It's not like I sit there and stare at it

I'd rather not see it in the middle of my screen all the time

[foggy socket]

so is ideal crit 25% or 35% cause ive heard both

[prime void]

You have to look away any time time you wanna check cd

Which is aids

[shrewd oriole]

^

Not to mention potentially dangerous

[prime void]

Jhaycen there is no "ideal" crit

[shrewd oriole]

All that neck exercise cannot be healthy

[hoary copper]

There's no real ideal crit

[strange python]

Xd

how dare you have opinions

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

You can say clicking is better

That’s an opinion

Opinions can be dumb tho

[prime void]

Yeau its objective. Not really any opinion

[hoary copper]

I keyboard turn and look at my action bar >.>

[strange python]

i disable my ui and play without a mouse

[prime void]

Looking at action bar=bad

[shrewd oriole]

Keyboard turning ➖

[strange python]

just have everything display in the middle of your screen

[shrewd oriole]

Just look at your bars everytike

To check KB, vendetta, TB, vanish, cloak

Oh shit you died to a mechanic oops

[strange python]

no no no

[hoary copper]

I dont really, I just wanted to have a say

[strange python]

I have them for kb, vendetta, etc.

but not cloak.

[shrewd oriole]

Cloak is the biggest dps cd

[strange python]

give me a break.

[shrewd oriole]

Staying alive = 100% more dps

[hoary copper]

I miss cloak when I play other classes

[shrewd oriole]

Maths dude cmon

Other classes?

[hoary copper]

I miss feint too

[shrewd oriole]

What’s that?

[hoary copper]

The ones that do less dps

[safe matrix]

you mean like gym or history?

[strange python]

or evasion, for that matter.

[safe matrix]

those classes suck

[shrewd oriole]

Nah dude

Gym is good

Gets me fit

[hoary copper]

gym isnt a real class, just like survival hunter isnt a real spec

[shrewd oriole]

Outlaw rogue*

Id rather play surv than outlaw

At least one of those requires a brain

[hoary copper]

you mean to what to reroll as?

[solid field]

[shrewd oriole]

If I was forced by the wrathful hand of god himself to play eithe surv or outlaw for the rest of my mere existence I’d choose surv every day

Specially alpha surv which looks dope

[solid field]

new druid forms tho.... ima level my druid now.

[hoary copper]

It looks interesting. Shooting eagles at people looks fun

I still hate pet classes so I'd rather do MM

[prime void]

Like is that hard to have a utility wa?

That takes up like 1% of your screen real eastate

Vs potentially not having tracked cloak well and dying

[strange python]

meh. If it's not something I'm tracking often, then I don't want it in the center of my screen.

[shrewd oriole]

Multiple times every fight

Not often

[strange python]

the cooldown never changes, and you dont line it up with anything. its utility. I'm not a dumbass. I can still see it.

that "1% of scren real estate" doesn't matter when I'm staring in the middle of my screen 95% of the time.

it's just a preference.

[jovial kite]

varimathras reprogress

how

??

[prime void]

Its not preference. You're bad.

😘

[shrewd oriole]

Lul

[prime void]

Woke up feeling savage tom 😪

[keen inlet]

Big hmmm on that

yuge

the best hmm

[shrewd oriole]

Sad.

[strange python]

a quality rogue discord discussion.

[solid field]

Just curious is 8/8 malch bis

[strange python]

No.

and you're bad, because I say so.

[hoary copper]

[shrewd oriole]

Kek

[solid field]

someone is sad

[prime void]

I mean looking at your action bar is just definitively worse. If you want to have a quality discussion, then what are the advantages to not tracking something easily ?

[shrewd oriole]

Furthering an already stupid discussion

Classic

[gaunt moat]

MY PREFRENCES ARE BETTER!!! 😖

[jovial kite]

[keen inlet]

[lone junco]

@foggy socket ill take 48% crit if we are just picking numbers. thanks.

[foggy socket]

if i could give crit out like that i would charge for it 😃

[lone junco]

for real though. crit depends on shoulders or non shoulders. I use bracer boot, and crit scales through the roof.

[hoary copper]

100% crit, 4 CP all the time!

[lone junco]

I had that on argus.

100% mut. feels goodman.

If i had a choice, id probably like 50/125 seems a good place to stop.

[strange python]

I don't like constantly getting 4cp from mut, especially during kingsbane, feels like you are just standing there. would rather mutilate again for more procs.

[lone junco]

you can finish with 3cp env or rupture to clip ep or env.

[strange python]

though of course, don't want to waste cp

[lone junco]

mut 4 env mut 4 env mut 4 env is ideal

[strange python]

why?

[lone junco]

100% uptime on env makes for good results.

[strange python]

If I'm close to capped energy, then sure. You can envenom long before the old buff is gone

that doesn't affect envenom uptime.

[lone junco]

mut is not damage.

[strange python]

but it procs poisons. twice.

and mut is not irrelevant damage.

[lone junco]

guess I dont feely that non crit mut poisons are any better than a crit mut and env.

[strange python]

I get it, don't waste cp. But I fail to see why constantly being stuck at 4cp is ideal

[lone junco]

I mean. there are crit break points. one for mut. one for poison. and one rupture and one for white.

you wont hit any of these.

[prime void]

Less downtime more uptime on

Ep/env

Less mut spam=more energy

[lone junco]

if you want to see a graph, look at cp gen / min.

and beyond that pbomb is a function of cp/min

afk.

[strange python]

getting a few 4cp muts is nice when you are dipping low on energy but I find that getting it over and over again is annoying

How does that affect cp/min, though? You are still waiting on the envenom timer to envenom again. Unless you are close to cap.

and 4cp is less of a chance to proc pb anyway?

[jovial kite]

2.5% chance is neglible

if you forced that 5cp you would lose elsewhere and most of the time not proc pb more

dont really understand how you dont like getting 4cp most of the time tbh 😄

[strange python]

and my point was during kingsbane. using mutilate and then standing there for 4 seconds makes me feel like I am not getting the most out of dp procs during kingsbane. assuming getting 4 cp mutilate has no effect on envenom uptime during kingsbane.

[prime void]

4cp muts make refreshing rup easy, setting up tb easier. Just etc etc. You're not as starved

If you have the energy, you can spam

[jovial kite]

its the most value you can get with 55 energy and 1 global

so dont really see how that cant be liked

[strange python]

sometimes I feel like I value the procs and damage a little bit more

[jovial kite]

like... every time you dont get 4cp with 1 mutilate you lose dps on a high probabillity

[strange python]

it's hard to explain I guess

[prime void]

Go play with low crit. The energy starve is real

[keen inlet]

eh legit

30% crit I still get shortchanged cps fairly often

[strange python]

I don't play with low crit, But I don't like playing so much crit that I get 4 cp mutilates all the time

[prime void]

I mean then have lower dps

Unless youre mast stacked

Then you do you

[strange python]

I have 39% crit which is actually a fuckton in hindsight.

[void pecan]

I have 40% in my boots/bracer

Only seldom feel starved.

but that's because im 🎸 and spam like an idiot

[strange python]

I don't feel starved at 35%

you feel me? Unless I am staying around capped energy (so I can envenom like every 3 seconds), then having so much crit feels like an excess of energy that I don't need

that sounds naive. I digress.

[keen inlet]

I feel starved occasionally

but ilvl 950-ish

¯_(ツ)_/¯

at 30% crit 157 mast

[solid field]

I feel starved all the time at 943, 23% crit and 195% mastery... It sucks

[fervent beacon]

I'm running at 26% crit

and I also been running Alacrity as well, so my energy regen been slight better dues to extra haste as well

[solid field]

Like i'm mashing my garrote button to refresh because i'm waiting on energy, I haven't missed 2pc t20 so much in my life.

[fervent beacon]

Yeah, having 5s cd on garrote made cleaving much easier too

[dire spoke]

naya on alacrity rn

[keen inlet]

I'

m gonna the next person who says alacrity

[warm parcel]

cant

catch

me

[midnight latch]

👀

[warm parcel]

a

l

a

c

r

i

[dire spoke]

with bracers?

[warm parcel]

t

y

[midnight latch]

yeah

[dire spoke]

dafuq

let me sim myself

lul

[zealous dew]

alacrity 😄

[fervent beacon]

Overall energy regen is smoother with it

[gaunt moat]

!unmute @quick talon

[chrome tusk]

@quick talon is no longer 🙊 here! He/she can speak 🐵 now!

[warm parcel]

wait wut

what did I miss

[coarse nymph]

toxic guy

[quick talon]

.

FREE

@warm parcel nice stream

[warm parcel]

yw bb 💋

[keen inlet]

References to alacrity = insta-mute imho

[dire spoke]

🤔 https://snag.gy/so8gHJ.jpg

33% crit

[quick talon]

watching you struggle with the coal

was .. interessting

[warm parcel]

xd

[viscid helm]

TB

[warm parcel]

i tried to learn how trading worked

[dire spoke]

well it's the highest crit value I get rn

no choices

[strange python]

Would image it would sim higher without shoulders

[hoary copper]

I have 27% crit, 192% mast right now, I need more crit...stupid haste/mastery pieces

[quick talon]

Aye

where did u stop? Didnt watch the last hour-ish

[hoary copper]

Oh you're back

[keen inlet]

yo

somebody give me a good set of shoulders to equip, just the name

[warm parcel]

mantle

[keen inlet]

I want to see if I can get shitlacrity to sim better

[warm parcel]

huehuehue

[solid field]

use the ones from garothi?

[old quartz]

shoulderblades of the demonic blitz

[marble hemlock]

^

[old quartz]

alac sims for shit

[marble hemlock]

garothi shoulders

[old quartz]

and is not worth it

lawl

ok

[viscid helm]

I mean its better than TB

[dire spoke]

@keen inlet demonic blitz

[old quartz]

ha

[viscid helm]

🤷

[old quartz]

its not though, even at 971 ilvl

[nova pagoda]

i mean idk takeing Elaborate Planning with it, can so some really good dmg

[old quartz]

you'd have to spec into elaborate planning otherwise it wouldnt make sense

and it still sims lower

[nova pagoda]

jsut beacuse it sims lower doesnt mean anything boots sim lower but can be better on a fight

[viscid helm]

still sims higher 🙃

[hoary copper]

May sim lower for you, doenst mean it sims lowers for others

[void pecan]

also ep/alac doesn't sim right iirc

[old quartz]

and may sim higher for flowi but i wouldnt make a general statement saying alac is better than TB when for 95% of rogues it isnt

yes, you realize i dont logout in gear im not spec'd for right 😛

[viscid helm]

nice data

where did you pull it from?

[strange python]

If it sims lower for me it’s lower for everyone

[void pecan]

^

[keen inlet]

hah

[viscid helm]

i'm just basing my statement of the fact that properly made Alac setup beat TB

[nova pagoda]

i was just useing that a example jut beacuse it sims lower doesnt mean its worse