assassination

[shrewd night]

This is assassination, if you didnt expect toxic you're in the wrong place

[turbid harbor]

how dare you question this veteran of the game who does high keys

[gilded lark]

i did a 12 once

[molten flicker]

there is absolutely no reason to announce pbs to do high keys

[gilded lark]

in the timer

[turbid harbor]

🤤

[shrewd night]

Im just guessing that if the tank moves, its for a reason. If it isnt, get a better tank. 🤷

[frozen pecan]

Well if your tank is a retard, I see the reason for an announcement

[molten flicker]

very simple ☝🏻

[shrewd night]

Refer to, get a better tank.

[frozen pecan]

^´

[turbid harbor]

if you're doing "high keys" without being on voice with your tank then idk

[gilded lark]

if you tank isn't pulling them out of pb on purpose, is he really tanking

i love that shit

so much fun to do on bdk

[turbid harbor]

ya mass grip as soon as the bomb procs

[runic crescent]

Tank in question is 3600

[gilded lark]

yeah

mass grip them away

[frozen pecan]

@turbid harbor ye but do you want to say "hey pb btw" every time? lul

[gilded lark]

from the pb

[runic crescent]

I mean if you think this person is bad, dunno what to tell you

[molten flicker]

it is bad

[gilded lark]

implying 3600 makes you some sort of god

[shrewd night]

If he moves without a reason for moving, then yeah he is bad

[molten flicker]

I dunno why you would think otherwise

[shrewd night]

lul

[turbid harbor]

3600 😄

[gilded lark]

what is that, all 19's in time

[turbid harbor]

high keys btw 😄

[molten flicker]

5k is starting to get good

[runic crescent]

Lol, you guys are too much

[molten flicker]

????

even I am 4.1k

[turbid harbor]

gl in mdi with very high keys

[frozen pecan]

well if your tank knows what he's doing there is no reason for an announcement is there?

[shrewd night]

Wait, are going to to claim that the tank is good if you as a dps need a WA to tell him tanking basics?

[molten flicker]

and I'm very sad that I can't get good

[shrewd night]

a) Do I need to move? No, cool. Ill stay right here.
b) Do I need to move? Yes, Ill strafe to keep the mobs at the same place
c) That aint possible, cool, Ill move.

Yes, your tank is shit if he doesnt follow that recipe.

[molten flicker]

what if chain pull is necessary when mobs are at 10% hp so you can't restealth?

[strange python]

Shiennar blessing us with the keys

[frozen pecan]

If it's for random groups then the tank most likely won't give a fuck and will move anyway if he feels like it

[gilded lark]

"buh muh pb"
"it's sanguine week you mong"
"NO SANG ONLY PB"

[full path]

alacrity > toxix blade for m+?

[gilded lark]

no

[shrewd night]

Depends on who you ask

Flowi

Come on

[strange python]

lmao

[shrewd night]

Tell us

[molten flicker]

yes

depends on who you ask

I gotta say, for trash I'm sure alac could be ok

but for the bosses that will come up

you'd most likely lose dmg

[strange python]

JK alac is simming higher

[molten flicker]

hehe ye about that

[shrewd night]

Its a 20k loss in my non-optimized gear

What Id give to not have to press tb

[molten flicker]

it's 100k loss in my optimized gear 😦

[shrewd night]

[strange python]

whats a K compared to and M?

nothing

[shrewd night]

Need more crit

[molten flicker]

ye 45% crit + 980 eoc

probably need more

[shrewd night]

what in the fuck

[molten flicker]

MOAR

[shrewd night]

Whats your mutilate crit at that level?

[cursive root]

😃

[shrewd night]

Like 140%?

[molten flicker]

no idea

[strange python]

Is that pawn btw?

[molten flicker]

yes

[strange python]

ty

[turbid harbor]

it's not very hard to work out your mut crit

crit chance + x*bb traits

[shrewd night]

Im not going to do the math for eoc

Because Im lazy

[molten flicker]

I'm not going to do it because I don't play with that spec, I'm not ingame and I am tired

very

very

tired

also

pantheon proc

amanthul

aaah

[turbid harbor]

or just look at the sim you linked

and it says 72.4

😄

[molten flicker]

seemsgood

I killed argus twice

but still 9/11

😔

[turbid harbor]

how do you get benched on aggramar as a rogue

[molten flicker]

they gotta train the new trials

or something

[turbid harbor]

fair enough

we had 3 for aggramar and argus

[molten flicker]

and I got 950 tier

dont need coven tier, so they bring people that do

I guess

[turbid harbor]

coven makes sense

fuck melee

[molten flicker]

well

afaik it doesn't really matter

in mythic

[turbid harbor]

it does

makes the fight much easier on prog when you have fewer people that need to be next to their target to dps

[molten flicker]

fair enough

[turbid harbor]

at this point it's whatever obviously

[molten flicker]

I've never been there so how would I know

-.-

[warm parcel]

You dont want there

Simple

[molten flicker]

I'm not done with tier until 11/11

[viscid helm]

Well you cant really compare ur "optimal" TB gear and then throw on w/w random pieces and sim exsang

Fact is, with proper gear profiles

TB stands no chance

[pine torrent]

Kazuya when you do mythic

Do you clear from garothi every week?

[molten flicker]

well

not when we extended at argus

[prime void]

what is

reclear ?

Is that a thing?

[molten flicker]

but after killing argus, there's not really any point in extending anymore

so then you kind of have to start over

so I'd say yes

[prime void]

^ ?

[molten flicker]

we clear from the first boss

[prime void]

Most redundant thing I've ever heard

[jovial kite]

@molten flicker ur tiercombo is bad

[molten flicker]

whatever do you mean

[jovial kite]

And you cant play exsang without 3 ma

Replying to the sim you tagged me to

[pine torrent]

So when you progress you just keep going from where you left off?

[molten flicker]

yes, but what's bad about the tier combo

[jovial kite]

shoulder hand is optimal

[molten flicker]

not according to the sim

as u can see

[jovial kite]

Your profile

[shrewd night]

Bruh

[jovial kite]

🤷

[shrewd night]

Did you click the link?

He has all kinds of combos in there

[molten flicker]

the sim chose the tier combo

not me

[jovial kite]

im on phone

But ur lackig 2 ma it seems

Which is a big chunk

[molten flicker]

also for alac?

[jovial kite]

Im not that familiar with alac.. should ask flowi

sim the highest profile with 3x ma exsang btw

[molten flicker]

can do

[turbid harbor]

you have 5 pk traits and the sim is foking at 3cp as well

[pine torrent]

Can you get ma trait from relic with ma?

[jovial kite]

no

Switch 2 pk to ma

[pine torrent]

So ma and alchemist would be bis?

[shrewd night]

Yes

[terse olive]

yes

[pine torrent]

And torment?

[shrewd night]

Guide in pins btw

[terse olive]

avoid 2x ma though

[molten flicker]

only have 1 pk trait I think?

[turbid harbor]

yea you have 1 from relics

[pine torrent]

So either 1 ma or 3?

[turbid harbor]

base is 4

[molten flicker]

ye

ofc

[terse olive]

yes

[molten flicker]

1 pk relic*

[pine torrent]

Why skip 2 ma?

[shrewd night]

Not this again

[jovial kite]

ull prolly break 2.3 with 3 ma

[molten flicker]

my tb sim is 2.95

[jovial kite]

and ds + fok isnt optimal

[molten flicker]

ds?

[shrewd night]

deeper strata

[jovial kite]

deeper stratagem

[molten flicker]

not using that am I?

I don't think so atleast

[jovial kite]

ep ds exsang

sim those talents aswell

[molten flicker]

ah

[jovial kite]

Maybe thats why so low

[turbid harbor]

oh yea you're using vigor

[jovial kite]

So first 3x ma then sim the talents with the ma profile

[terse olive]

the 2nd ma doesn't give much boost in dps @pine torrent

[shrewd night]

With his crit I can imagine alot of CPs are wasted

[jovial kite]

with his crit he should sim way more

If only he had right talents

[shrewd night]

[warm parcel]

Lemme sim exsang with alac

🤔

[molten flicker]

O_o

[viscid helm]

[molten flicker]

can someone name a shadow relic with ma

[shrewd night]

the one from host

[molten flicker]

thx

XD

[shrewd night]

yup, that one

[turbid harbor]

shade of the vault

[molten flicker]

ok fixed, 3 ma 0 pk and correct talents

it reaches 2.336

so that's up 40k from mastery tb setup

[turbid harbor]

i wouldn't play exsang unless i was allowed to just tunnel the boss

like patchwerk in sims

[terse olive]

okey, now, stack as much mastery as u can (there is no to much), switch back to tb and start auto attacking and using tb when it's off cd

[molten flicker]

ye I'm not planning on playing it either

[turbid harbor]

any delay is aids

[terse olive]

use no other spell

[fallow estuary]

It finally happend guys

http://prntscr.com/ikt2hg

Haste surpassed Agility

I thought i'd never see the day where haste is not my most useless stat

[molten flicker]

it still is

because it doesn't compete with agi

:p

[fallow estuary]

DONT TAKE AWAY MY DREAMS

[viscid helm]

Ofc it does

[shrewd night]

@molten flicker Are you sure about that? What about... Gems!

[molten flicker]

sure, I guess on trinkets

[viscid helm]

This channel going full acoustic

No

Every item

[molten flicker]

ye, go gem haste instead of agi

😮

[viscid helm]

Has agi

[shrewd night]

Not fang

😠

[viscid helm]

Apart from ring

Amu

[molten flicker]

yes?

[brisk forge]

Rings**

[molten flicker]

since my sim has been using fok at 3cps because 1 pk relic, I've been doing the same ingame (as normal tb/mastery spec)

that isn't wrong, is it?

[turbid harbor]

change your pk relic to a sprint relic and sim again

but im pretty sure it's bad since the pk fix

[viscid helm]

Why is it bad?

[molten flicker]

I didn't consider it possibly being bad

[viscid helm]

Theres a reason simc does it

[molten flicker]

I saw sim do it, so I did it

[viscid helm]

Its not some leftover from PK bug

[ancient sonnet]

It plays the spec to its fullest

[viscid helm]

That was never fixed

[molten flicker]

how to find a shadow sprint relic

🤔

[ancient sonnet]

I have 3 ma 2 malch 1 strangler, no wonder I get dank exsg sims

[viscid helm]

Should get some BB's in there

[turbid harbor]

curdled shadow essence

[molten flicker]

ye

[ancient sonnet]

Would ma/BB be best for exsg?

[molten flicker]

I found it

rather, I found the same one

it sims as .4% loss

fok with pk not wrong

ez for sim

ez for me

[viscid helm]

I dont know tbh but id assume strangler is still shit

[jovial kite]

Strangler is worst in slot

[ancient sonnet]

It is, just crucible on ma relic though

Others were PK and sprint

[molten flicker]

get pk

[ancient sonnet]

Actual diseased relic

[molten flicker]

hello

[ancient sonnet]

I play exsg no

[viscid helm]

BB just makes Sin feel much better in general

[ancient sonnet]

The buff was big

[molten flicker]

I'm looking to get 3+3 malch+pk

[viscid helm]

Think i have 75-80% mut crit

[ancient sonnet]

But I find myself getting 4cp so often with 45 crit it's cray

[jovial kite]

malch and rup dmg beat bb at 45% crit in sims

[viscid helm]

With dog trinket up

[ancient sonnet]

Im right using env at 4cp playing exsg ya?

Even with ds

[viscid helm]

Yes

[ancient sonnet]

Cool

[jovial kite]

I only muti there if im sure i wont drop 2p and ep

[strange python]

The best of both worlds by Hannah MOntana

[jovial kite]

eg during exsang or vendetta

[strange python]

YOU GO BOI

[jovial kite]

But more often i just env at 4

[shrewd night]

Hannah Montana

[ancient sonnet]

Rofl

[shrewd night]

Long time since I heard that name

[ancient sonnet]

Don't hate on me

[strange python]

not hating

i envy you

to have the confidence to display your Hannah Montana Playlist

[molten flicker]

😃

[strange python]

those are some guts right ther

[shrewd night]

I thought that was a meme

Where is this playlist?

[molten flicker]

spotify

[shrewd night]

For scientific purposes

[jovial kite]

Im sure its a meme

[molten flicker]

click his name

[ancient sonnet]

I'm literally sitting in Costa waiting for 10 so I can go get hair cut, since all of my lectures have been cancelled due to UK not being able to deal with snow

[shrewd night]

what

[molten flicker]

snow in uk

[shrewd night]

Nathan

[ancient sonnet]

Ya it says what I'm listening to

[molten flicker]

must be very irregular

[ancient sonnet]

It is

[strange python]

2018, UK faces it's first wave of snow

[ancient sonnet]

And we got a Siberian snow storm labeled 'the beast from the east'

[strange python]

only time will tell how brits will react to this

[molten flicker]

HAHAHA

[ancient sonnet]

It's killed Newcastle

[strange python]

what counter measures will they use?

[molten flicker]

the beast from the east

[ancient sonnet]

Yep

[molten flicker]

sounds like a middle eastern porn star

[strange python]

Hire immigrants to kill the snow

[jovial kite]

Last summer we had the lucifer summer hearwave

Now we have beast from the east

[ancient sonnet]

Yep

[jovial kite]

And siberia

[molten flicker]

could be a boxer as well

[strange python]

I'm a beast from the east:P

[molten flicker]

a russian boxer

[ancient sonnet]

You say this is my Hannah Montana playlist, it's just my favourites btw

[molten flicker]

"the beast from the east"

[jovial kite]

No

[molten flicker]

that sure is a good one

[jovial kite]

Is snowstorm

[ancient sonnet]

It made me giggle

[molten flicker]

same

[strange python]

Done

[warm parcel]

Fucking vr this morning

Lemme delay your train for 25 mins

[molten flicker]

weak in virtual reality?

[jovial kite]

Even metro was scuffed

[warm parcel]

Why wont you stand out in cold during that

Like

Sure bro

[ancient sonnet]

Buses are in shambles

[warm parcel]

Np

[molten flicker]

but, it's snow

[ancient sonnet]

Metro? You live in North East too?

[molten flicker]

how is it rare

[jovial kite]

I live in finland

[ancient sonnet]

O

Well it's north

That woeks

[warm parcel]

🤔

[strange python]

Do you have frozen water in Finland?

[warm parcel]

Vr is our train company

[molten flicker]

no

[jovial kite]

Yes its generally called ice

[molten flicker]

vr is virtual reality

pls

[ancient sonnet]

Isn't it like -20 in Finland or w/e

[frozen pecan]

lol

[jovial kite]

In this part of the world

[molten flicker]

frozen water

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

[warm parcel]

Ye like -25 with wind

[strange python]

So it's always snowing ice in Finland

[ancient sonnet]

Fuck that shit, nope

[frozen pecan]

the fuckin wind is the worst

[strange python]

got my next vacation destination

[ancient sonnet]

-8 is lethal for me

[warm parcel]

STANDING WAITING TRAIN THATS 20 MINS LATE

-25 btw

[jovial kite]

i took a taxi to work

[strange python]

@warm parcel have you tried moving to generate body heat?

[ancient sonnet]

Train platforms are wind tunnels too

[molten flicker]

or wearing clothes?

[ancient sonnet]

I feel bad for you

[viscid helm]

Well thats nothing new is it?

[gilded lark]

that's not even cold

[jovial kite]

Usually walk 3,5 km... not today with the beast out the leash

[viscid helm]

VR is always late

[molten flicker]

the beast

XD

dying

[ancient sonnet]

So meny fins

[warm parcel]

...

[strange python]

"3 headed of the leash" ----> weather in romania :DDDD

[turbid harbor]

idk how you go outside in -25

0 is too cold already

[molten flicker]

you wear clothes

it's very simple

[jovial kite]

are you a female?

Bwah

[ancient sonnet]

It must feel like sheet ice hitting you when it's windy

[jovial kite]

pussies

[strange python]

lmao

[warm parcel]

Says guy taking taxi

🤔

[jovial kite]

hey

[turbid harbor]

No I just live in a country without horrible weather 😀

[jovial kite]

I didnt say i wasnt

[gilded lark]

Throwback to some actually cold weather

[jovial kite]

[ancient sonnet]

UK has sick weather m8

[gilded lark]

goddamn pussies i say

[jovial kite]

Russian spotted

[gilded lark]

canadian

[jovial kite]

no

[strange python]

aye lol

[jovial kite]

Russian

[turbid harbor]

uk weather is shit but at least we aren’t finland

[jovial kite]

??

[ancient sonnet]

It's like always temperate until god damn russian commie snowstorms hit us

[jovial kite]

What

[warm parcel]

Its been nice this winter

[jovial kite]

We have 4 season dafuq

[warm parcel]

Just these cold winds now

[strange python]

I think weather in Canada is worse than Russia

[gilded lark]

it's super fun here where i live

[ancient sonnet]

North Canada is like narnia

[molten flicker]

russia has siberia

[strange python]

I mean populated areas anyhoe

[molten flicker]

^

[strange python]

WHO THE FKC MOVES TO SIBERIA

[gilded lark]

seasons are wind/cold as fuck, wind/melt, wind/hot as fuck, wind/freeze again

[strange python]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[molten flicker]

hey

[jovial kite]

The beast

[molten flicker]

we weren't talking about places people live

until u said it

just after me

[gilded lark]

60km/h winds in -40 btw

[strange python]

didn't realize that:P

[gilded lark]

[jovial kite]

Even siberia was too much for the beast from the east

So he moved west

[molten flicker]

yes

😄

beast from the east, boxer, porn-star and wind

[warm parcel]

Besides we only have -20 cause were in southern fin

[jovial kite]

Yeah

True fin

[strange python]

moved west??

[ancient sonnet]

The beast from the east is what I would expect tabloids to call a serial killer from like Serbia or something

Not a storm

[jovial kite]

fuck the peripheria

[molten flicker]

well north of fin = russia

[ancient sonnet]

But you did win Vs Russia in da war

Goodboi fins

[strange python]

A really cool russian City to visit is Kiev

hear it's amzing

[ancient sonnet]

Hehe

[molten flicker]

bye now

[strange python]

top kek

[molten flicker]

places sto be

[jovial kite]

going to copenhagen and bulgaria in 2 months

[ancient sonnet]

Out into the beast, see you Bois on the other side

[jovial kite]

Golf trips 👌

[strange python]

Russians also have places to be, like Kiev

[jovial kite]

Bis

[warm parcel]

👀
Golf ♿

[jovial kite]

[warm parcel]

Ive played like once or twice

And almost got a hole in one

[jovial kite]

Its like rolling wlock and saying shit m+ class

[warm parcel]

Wat?

[jovial kite]

Nvm ill stop bully

[patent topaz]

Warlock is op on trash but on st my warlock sucks ass

[terse olive]

warlock WARNING!!!

blasphemy

[patent topaz]

940 equipped 1.1m sim in m+ talent spec

😞

[strange python]

#FeelsBadMan

[jovial kite]

[shrewd night]

There is a difference when it comes to m+ spec that impacts deeps?

Legit question

[turbid harbor]

sow seeds?

[shrewd night]

orite

warlock

nvm me

Real warlocks play demonology anyways

[jovial kite]

ded chanel

(insert assassination do something.jpg here)

[shrewd night]

Last time you said that it was an apocalypse

So how about you not say anything unless you want rebel to come back

[jovial kite]

He band

[shrewd night]

[gilded lark]

who

[patent topaz]

I ran writhe, elt and seed because it was fortified brh

[shrewd night]

The creep that recorded his gf sleeping on skype because 'its normal'

[gilded lark]

who

they made josh a rift guardian

[shrewd night]

Who the fuck is josh

[jovial kite]

[severe iron]

https://puu.sh/zxqkv.png The cache of dreams right there 👌

[gilded lark]

also trying to push greater rift and suddenly 250 ms ping

[quick talon]

Who are you

[gilded lark]

[severe iron]

@quick talon I'm the rogue with all the TF luck this week apparently

[shrewd night]

@severe iron Keep Yourself Simmed

[severe iron]

[shrewd night]

cough

[severe iron]

I always sim :v

[shrewd night]

Last chance for ranks tonight bois

Aggramar extension onwards

[severe iron]

rip

[gilded lark]

sounds like a gquit kind of situation

[severe iron]

Extending on Agg is weird unless you're having reclear problems

[shrewd night]

Iunno, getting more time on boss is decent I guess. Half our raidtime in a week disappears on reclearing.

Something something immonar

something something vari

[severe iron]

bless vari

[solar willow]

How many wipes on aggra ?

[severe iron]

waiting for peopel to realise you should save procs for adds

[shrewd night]

We started yesterday, so its like. Iunno. 15-20?

[solar willow]

I'm starting on aggra today

[shrewd night]

waiting for people to realize that the markers are only guidelines

[verbal root]

on vair I am like fuck it... went sub, marked for death a obliterated the add

[shrewd night]

[severe iron]

oh lol

bigger problems huh

rip

[shrewd night]

Fucking messes with my head every time

'the markers are wrong'

No, you're dumb.

[solar willow]

We killed coven by mistake after 100wipes and we are Starting on aggra today

[severe iron]

100?

jesus

[shrewd night]

by mistake

[solar willow]

Retard warlocks didnt get hit by shadow blades 1 time

[severe iron]

getting hit by shadow blades

[solar willow]

Funny thing when my guild got the kill i sat out

I guess i was the problem

[severe iron]

[frozen pecan]

does the opener without shoulders still apply if you use crown?

[severe iron]

Yeah, because it's without shoulders equipped

[frozen pecan]

smart

[solar willow]

Straight forward

[frozen pecan]

ofc, just thought maybe people do something different

since it seems like an energy waste

[zealous dew]

i heard that shoulders are getting nerfed

to 0.5s crit

[solar willow]

Hahahaha

[prime void]

100 wipes on coven

Thats reason enough to find a new guild

[zealous dew]

0 wipes on coven

bench is the greatest spot on that fight

[solar willow]

Too many melees man

[prime void]

Really isnt that bad haha

[zealous dew]

just stack warlocks boomkins and spriests

even 930 alts will do more dmg than your rogue

[solar willow]

The warlocks were the ones wiping us

[zealous dew]

my bet is melee stacking

[solar willow]

Why am i always a subject to laugh at when i come in this discord 😣

[zealous dew]

we're

[solar willow]

Makes sense

[viral python]

hello

[shrewd night]

I can smell it before it happens

Just watch

[viral python]

my legendary wrists just dropped.What combo should I use? Wrist with legendary head or ring(ravenholdt)?

[shrewd night]

depends on gear

Sim yourself

My nose is great today.

[viral python]

the sim tells me to not use the wrists..

[shrewd night]

Thats what happens if you got good wrist and terrible items in the other slots

🤷

[viscid helm]

If you are progressing

Bracers are more valuable

Than what sim suggests

[viral python]

hmm ok

[ancient sonnet]

I'm back and the beast from the east is still raging

[strange python]

Wish i had spotify where i'm from

[ancient sonnet]

Huh what, you don't?

[solid nova]

My girlfriend is Croatian and she cant have spotify there either

Unlucky fam

[ancient sonnet]

That's like pandora, can't get it outside of North America afaik

[patent topaz]

Pandora in 2018?

[solar willow]

Sub rules

[ancient sonnet]

If only that were true ;)

[solar willow]

How bad is 185%mastery and 30% crit?

[viscid helm]

Pretty bad

[ancient sonnet]

Think I run 198/25 with like 15 Vers or something if I do play poison boops spec

[zealous dew]

i have 23% haste

• alacrity

boy endless energy

[ancient sonnet]

You cray

[solar willow]

I try to optimise both specs so i can swap over to sub whenever i feel like

[viscid helm]

130% mast prob ideal

[ancient sonnet]

But muh damooge

[patent topaz]

Which talents do you take with alacrity?

Will sim alacrity when i get home

[ancient sonnet]

EP subt vigor for me

[viscid helm]

EP Subt vigor

You want +40% crit

Prob closer to 50

[patent topaz]

My crit is low

[ancient sonnet]

Excluding

[viscid helm]

Depends on BB relics

[patent topaz]

I think I have 28 crit, 7 haste, 15 vers, 172 mast

[warm parcel]

eoc in 2018

[viscid helm]

Weak

My haste value as high as vers

[warm parcel]

Pooh

[viscid helm]

Now

[warm parcel]

🤔

Report?

[viscid helm]

I can link when im home

[warm parcel]

Haste gems new meta?

I saw some mm with haste gems

Dont they still like mas

[shrewd night]

Probably some threshold to get another skill into vuln

[warm parcel]

Ye but thats really low treshold

Unless they went for the next one

[kindred forge]

mm NEEDS ARROUND 20% HASTE FOR THE ROTATION

Caps

Sorry

So he can fit 2 AS in to 2 Ais

[warm parcel]

Ye but this guy had all haste

Like 30-40%

[viscid helm]

New meta

[kindred forge]

That's to much really

[viscid helm]

Obviously

People just clueless

[midnight latch]

yo guys

whats the haste cap for rogues

[brisk forge]

100%

[devout moth]

Yo guys can someone check my log

And tell me what to improve ?

[devout moth]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CByJf8mNkgMv6PcD#fight=1&view=rankings

If some pro assa rogue could give me some tips xd

[viscid helm]

The more haste i add the more it keeps going up

Wonder if i can make haste more valuable than mastery

[warm parcel]

Thats cause alac

Scales with haste

[viscid helm]

We haste crit now boys

[warm parcel]

👌

[shrewd night]

Nenphyst, dont slack on bleed uptimes , pop prolonged power sooner, not enough foks during transition

And thats just from a glance

[midnight latch]

@jovial kite

[viscid helm]

[jovial kite]

@midnight latch

tbh or should be mirrored

So we can stalk gang shit

[midnight latch]

I am on it fam

[jovial kite]

👌

[ripe dock]

https://gyazo.com/e46df21a994c2a23c2efdcf1bcf019e3

wow actually a decent relic from chest

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/o96zNp.jpg

[shrewd oriole]

What the

Nice dude gratz

[dire spoke]

ye dhank u blizerd

[viscid helm]

Nice pile of trash u got there

Gz

[shrewd oriole]

p good for m+

any1 wants to come for tom's weekly HC clear?

[molten flicker]

that trinket is very good

[quick ice]

finally 960 doggo trinket. 🙏 paid off

[dire spoke]

where is nayamonk 👀

[viscid helm]

Hopefully gone

No one likes that weirdo

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[quick ice]

coven hard

[sudden ocean]

is thistle tea ever worth using over another pot?

[shrewd oriole]

dude c'mon bro

you think TOM'S GROUP

ever wipes on anything but hounds

[dire spoke]

[molten flicker]

yes

[dire spoke]

my fps dropped, can't tank

[molten flicker]

only use thistle tea for mythic raiding @sudden ocean

[sudden ocean]

why's it better in mythic? sheer damage it provides outweighs the stats?

[dire spoke]

it's never better

[shrewd oriole]

you're being trolled

dont use thistle lol

[viscid helm]

I use old wars

[plush dune]

I'm new to rouge is poison build better then bleed build

[viscid helm]

No

[dire spoke]

cute selfie

[viscid helm]

[dire spoke]

time to outparse Tom

and fail

then cry

[warm parcel]

What if old war will again be better with haste spec 🤔

[dire spoke]

almost had him

D:<

[shrewd oriole]

4% more PB than me

still lose

classical zempai

CLASSICAL

[dire spoke]

forgot to flask

lol

[shrewd oriole]

😦

[quick ice]

😦

[dire spoke]

pray for stable FPS on hounds plx

[jovial kite]

@warm parcel i remember en sims used the ranged pot

With ap

[warm parcel]

It was better until it wasnerfed for melee

[jovial kite]

yeah

[shrewd night]

I remember when you had to sell your third son to afford five pots

[quick talon]

No

[warm parcel]

Or just heb

Herbb

[jovial kite]

i remember doing 8h work then 8h herb when i got home

To raid 3x week

[warm parcel]

No haste

Salvage

[shrewd night]

How about you go sim yourself Tisumi

[quick ice]

wait, haste isn't a meme?

so confused

[quick talon]

Easy disenchant

[warm parcel]

Also I never herbed xd

Just used ah

[quick talon]

I don’t like the idea of farming ingame

You’re busy working all day irl

Come home

Better grind some flowers ingame

Time well spent

[shrewd night]

Back in the day when EN was the shit. Spent hours farming flowers. Spend hours making those pots. Get into raid, and see people complain about not using pots because its too expensive and they cant afford it.

Easiest gquit in my life.

[shrewd oriole]

lmao

[shrewd night]

Made a spreadsheet on potion usage

[hazy flame]

Member when oldwar was like 8% of ur damage

[shrewd night]

Some gud people using pots every try

Some people using 2 pots a week

[quick talon]

Zalandari troll Druid Concept Art

[zealous dew]

2 pots a week

hahahaha

[shrewd night]

Ill see if I can find that shit

[viscid helm]

I dont pot at all

[shrewd night]

I got it in my gdrive somewhere

[viscid helm]

🤷

[zealous dew]

i'll pot on tuesday and sat this week

[viscid pawn]

why do i use toxic blades before kingsbane in my opener?

istn it more damage when i delay toxic blade for the last 9sec of kingsbane?

[viscid helm]

No

[viscid pawn]

why tho?

[viscid helm]

Go feelycraft somewhere else

Delaying cooldowns isnt good

[viscid pawn]

so just use kingsbane and toxic blade on cd? even when they dont overlap?

[orchid cove]

cause why delay a for maybe a 1million dmg increase when in the fight you're gonna end up doing 1-2 more toxic blades

which hits for like 3m

[quick talon]

Farming herbs in EN you couldn’t even fly in legion. Self torture big time

[shrewd night]

shit like this was commong stuff

[quick talon]

But well

[jovial kite]

haste gear again

15th week in a row

what are the odds

[quick talon]

Some people are grinding cotton irl

[warm parcel]

Gz

[jovial kite]

someone calculate

[warm parcel]

Youve gotten so many bis offpieces

[quick talon]

15 bis stats in a row

[shrewd night]

do u no da wae

[warm parcel]

No

Stop

[dire spoke]

P O G G E R S

[shrewd night]

spit on da faek queen

[quick talon]

Please

[orchid cove]

do you still play shoulder / bracers with ala or you play bracers/boots ?

[shrewd night]

Whatever sims better I assume 🤷

[viscid helm]

Boots sim better for me

[orchid cove]

okok

[viscid helm]

EP Subt Vigor

[quick talon]

Not playing alacrity/mfd in 2018..

[warm parcel]

Sub 🤔

[orchid cove]

i'm only losing 140k dps simming with alac monkaS

[warm parcel]

Dude

My alac caught up to tb now aswell

What is this black magic

[quick talon]

Link Report

[shrewd night]

[warm parcel]

I dont have the proper one

I edited apl a little at home

[viscid helm]

U cant just sim alac in ur TB gear

[keen inlet]

Why

on earth

would anybody voluntarily

[viscid helm]

Its closer to exsang values

[keen inlet]

go alacrity

[viscid helm]

Dude

[keen inlet]

unless it is 0831570138751308570135871308571035813705 dps more

[viscid helm]

Go away

Have u tested alac?

[shrewd night]

[keen inlet]

You think Outlaw's been happy playing Alac all xpac?

[viscid helm]

Its the smoothest Sin gameplay

[warm parcel]

Alac is bae

[viscid helm]

U can find

[manic vigil]

[quick talon]

But who got the fastest alac sim in here

[warm parcel]

We played alac in 7.1 m+

[quick talon]

„Bae“

[warm parcel]

We played wp alac

Dont take it away

[keen inlet]

I want to see logs, I want to see sims

[worthy thistle]

Can u sim alac on raidbots mow tho or is it still bad? Haven't been here for a a week

[keen inlet]

I'm assuming this is only working at high ilvls

[viscid helm]

100% env and 2pc

Uptime

[shrewd night]

High 🎸 levels too

[manic vigil]

[warm parcel]

It def requires high 🎸

[keen inlet]

good thing alac is going away in bfa

[shrewd night]

You cant just say shit like that

[viscid helm]

Im making a petition

[keen inlet]

this absolutely degenerate build will go with it

[shrewd night]

Flowi will kill himself

[viscid helm]

To bring it back

Scrap TB

[keen inlet]

That's fine, so long as they still remove it for outlaw

[viscid helm]

Worst talent in the row rn

[keen inlet]

(which they haven't yet)

I mean I agree that TB is shite

and a dumb/boring ability

but

[orchid cove]

did u see that r1 rogue on garothi M with a pb every vendetta and 4PBS in bracers LUL

[keen inlet]

I hate everything about alacrity's design

[warm parcel]

Its 5 stack in bfa

[rustic rock]

is bleed build really viable? cant see anyone using in warcraftlogs

[keen inlet]

@warm parcel Any stacks are dumb

[shrewd night]

Just leave it at perma 20% attack speed tbh

[keen inlet]

I mean

¯_(ツ)_/¯

if it's a stacking buff, but it passively stacks...

🙄 engaging gameplay

[shrewd night]

Bring back the combat vulnerability, but give it to sin

That shit was engaging as shit

[warm parcel]

Alac is a bit boring

[fathom wyvern]

“That shit was engaging as shit”

Wiser words have never been spoken

[shrewd night]

Thank you, I perform every day

[orchid cove]

so i did topgear to check for alac and i only sim like 18k less on raidbot ^ omw to play wheelchair stuff

[dire spoke]

whew

afk boss

time for snacks

[viscid helm]

Alac requires more attention than TB prob

[shrewd night]

Nobody likes alacrity aside from flowi

[orchid cove]

i mean if i have to like what i play can i go back to sub wod with soulcap pls

[shrewd night]

Pandaland destruction with fel flame lets go

[worthy thistle]

Nothing in wow will ever be fun again after having played hfc sub

[viscid helm]

Back in the HFC days, when DK was viable

[worthy thistle]

I still dk why they didn't just keep sub it was but changed the bleed progress from multi strike to crit

[nimble oracle]

What stats you guys got and I’ll?

[shrewd night]

Uh

What?

[keen inlet]

Nothing will ever be

as intense/fun

[jovial kite]

im switching to sub

[keen inlet]

as BC combat

[jovial kite]

so smooth

after 4 months of no sub play

[keen inlet]

struggling to top the meter but stay under alt-tank's threat

👌

[shrewd night]

BC warlock. Shadowboltspam, that shit was INTENSE WEEEEEW

[quick ice]

gotta be the lucky warlock who got to run curse of doom, soo

rather than CoE/CoR

[warm parcel]

Pylle playing bc privas now

Future raider btw

[shrewd night]

Why would you run doom when youd need to sac your succubus

[quick ice]

doom was more DPS than agony back then?

p sure...

[calm grail]

! relics

FUXK

[shrewd night]

Like, for real

[keen inlet]

Why would you run anything when you can spin and win warrior

[shrewd night]

You didnt even cast agony or corr

[calm grail]

!relics

[chrome tusk]

List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0

[worthy thistle]

Icc fire mage with 90% crit was also fun Pyro>pyro>pyro>pyro etc

[shrewd night]

You just hit shadowbolt

[keen inlet]

and then cry about how low your dps is

[shrewd night]

Again and again

And again

[keen inlet]

as you thoroughly dunk on everyone

[shrewd night]

@keen inlet stun mace and mace specialization warrior

Or the aids that was shadowpriest. Random chance to stun for 2 seconds.

[quick ice]

fucking stunherald 🤢

[unreal coyote]

winherald

[worthy thistle]

S2 combat with prep AR 👌

[shrewd night]

I dont even remember what prep did

[keen inlet]

Gave you an insta-boner

basically

[worthy thistle]

Pretty much

Still sad i never raided in tbc exceot for half of kara lol was such a casual, 95% bgs and broken english

[warm parcel]

Gave you an insta-boner
Id pin if I could

[calm grail]

Hey guys I have an old over asked question.

Herodamages relic sims skew Master Assassin to look real juicy at 3, is having two as bad as it shows, or is that still a bug?

[shrewd night]

not

this

shit

again

[calm grail]

[warm parcel]

Never was. Just unlucky timing

[worthy thistle]

When did they change energy ticks btw was it end of tbc or end of wrath i cant recall

[warm parcel]

Or wrath prepatch

[calm grail]

I'm having no problem getting that triple Malch but oooooooo damn is it hard getting triple Malch to go with it.

Master ass*

I miss the good old days where somebody would tricks you and forget to mention it, and the boss would hit you first :)

[glossy galleon]

hey i've been out of wow for like a month. any new glitches or exploits mnakign our dps gross again?

[warm parcel]

Old tricks tier bonuses

🤷

[novel island]

Hi Friends, how are you doing today.

[calm grail]

Not gross, no Tantaku

It's pretty good though

[shrewd night]

The feel when other rogues in my guild has to bind evasion to shadowstep so they dont get instagibbed by boss on pull

[warm parcel]

Dude

[calm grail]

🤔

[warm parcel]

Step gives evasion

Do you even assa

[quick ice]

🥄 confirmed

[calm grail]

Sometimes I pop evasion because I don't always trust the tanks.

And I figure if I have to use it any point within the next 2 minutes, things are probably fucked anyways

[shrewd night]

Iunno, Im not doing that shit

They just told me they had to on aggra yesterday

[calm grail]

I figure, it can't hurt.

[stone sandal]

@viscid helm lets get back to the alac > TB discussion.
I actually feel you, alac actually just sims 6k less for me than TB
But stat weights are much higher in general what actually should mean more dps increase with mroe gear i guess?

[vagrant eagle]

raidbots doesnt open in Chrome browser (it opens but empty, no links nor sections), while it opens on explorer for example.. anyone knows why?

[shrewd night]

CTRL + Shift + delete

Delete everything

Try again

[worthy thistle]

@shrewd night tell them to not use shroud it fucks u on aggra everytime

[shrewd night]

@worthy thistle Mebbe, Ill be watching for my own amusement for a little longer

[calm grail]

But using shroud makes you look like a next level genius.

I can't think of any boss where shroud is actually a meaningful difference other than it looking cool.

[worthy thistle]

I procced cheath death our 3 first pulls unril i realized it's shroid being wonky with his cleave and hit ne even tho I was at 20 fucking yards away

[calm grail]

I guess maybe getting into position on dogs.

[worthy thistle]

Idk but why not use it, lets other melee gets closer

[viscid helm]

@stone sandal yes

[calm grail]

Well that's your problem, fuck other melee.

[worthy thistle]

There is no downside, except for aggra

[shrewd night]

Our melee swears at us if we arent using it. Though, Im of the same opinion. A shroud wont make or break.

[warm parcel]

Never used shrou

Never will

[calm grail]

Like all use it because it looks cool, and if people insist that it is useful, I just don't think it makes a meaningful difference.

Like I'll*

[viscid helm]

Shroud was useful on that bridge boss in NH

[worthy thistle]

Its the most minor of minor but why not use it, is a habit at this point

[viscid helm]

Nothing else

[warm parcel]

Cause its not habit for me

[stone sandal]

@viscid helm aswell as the amount of haste should increase my DP proccs wich is a huge gain
Aswell as the amount of proccs you get into KB what literally buffs that aswell alot
And energy regen aswell..

[warm parcel]

And its bound to f5 ♿

[calm grail]

Flowis trolling you Vy

[warm parcel]

No

Alac is no longer a meme

[keen inlet]

Shroud

is one of those abilities

[calm grail]

Playing troll chess in 5d

[keen inlet]

that could be awesome

but utterly fails

90% of the time

if not mechanically

then because somebody is an idiot

[calm grail]

What if you gave everybody a minor combat buff?!

[shrewd night]

Tbh, remove shroud and give back smoke bomb

[keen inlet]

99% of that 90% is somebody being an idiot

[warm parcel]

Smoke is still there

[keen inlet]

the other 1% is mechanical wonk

[warm parcel]

And wont return to pve

[worthy thistle]

Not for assa/combat

[calm grail]

Because they HAD TO give DHs darkness

[worthy thistle]

Or is it? Its only sub right

[calm grail]

Sub PVP

[worthy thistle]

Y

[dire spoke]

I'm a +30% boi now

got KG ring

[amber quail]

Any stats sheet about HASTE meta? Min. Crit/haste/mast to work?

[warm parcel]

No

[amber quail]

Or simply swap alacrity?

[warm parcel]

No. We dont know anything yet

[keen inlet]

Oh god

we did not need this

this late in the expac

[barren bough]

Hello guys, can i ask you something?

[keen inlet]

Flowi why did you say anything

[warm parcel]

Just wait for hemo meta ♿

[keen inlet]

we don't need yet another Metapocalypse

[amber quail]

Oky

[dire spoke]

on alac

[keen inlet]

@barren bough What's up

[barren bough]

Which leges do you think it's better to use? [Insignia of the Grand Army] [Will of Valeera] [Cinidaria, the Symbiote]?

I've got those 3 atm

[keen inlet]

insig and cini for dps

[amber quail]

I want to be emo in BfA

[barren bough]

Aight!

[keen inlet]

@amber quail then roll DH, ultimate emo class

[amber quail]

Lol

[solid nova]

Make sure you find an edgy name too

[keen inlet]

"I've sacrificed everything"
"You haven't suffered as I have"

edges
shitty fashion
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