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o ye
i was supposed to do the 980 profiles
really?
see how dog shit TB really is
its a thing
coz i dont fucking know legit
dude
alac is a 2% loss at worst
like when i started playing assa on argus
it's an elaborate troll 
if the APL is improved
and bracers dont even buff env during tb.
its gonna sim higher than TB
why would you use Alacrity if you dont want haste?

Alacrity gives a fuckload
exactly
monkaS
with T21.
haste versa buff bis
Pants trinket too
Panth
I tested it on ptr a while back. with MP anti you could hold 95% env/2p. so it makes sense that alacrity would feed that.
just slow clipping and less burst.
prob need a fuck load of mastery, but w/e
lol at the anti apl being shit for the entire tier. Nothing surprises me anymore.
do you guys rupture and envenom at 4 cp?
Yes
doesnt that give less dps though?
no
but if I use my Envenom at 4 it hits like a wet noodle
every time you mut at 4cp you are losing half an envnenom or something
think about it that way
wow, didnt know that, will try and change that habbit now
yeah mut is 2 3 4 cps. so at 4 you gain 1. lol
so howcome no one uses the other 2 talents besides vigor so they dont cap cp?
some do. vig is just very strong.
besides a 3cp mut +tb or 3cp mut +kb or 3cp mut +garrote or 4cp mut
you dont use kb and tb on cooldown?
you do, but they give cps as well.
vigor is also best for shoulder window. lets you hammer out more env during the crit.
My first priest was named Pope.
this truly is a weird timeline
sexually aroused by poop?
eat da poopoo
lol
why not MP with alacrity?
2382 to 2326 is a small spread
just mash all the shit.
just dont take hem0
i just ran this for myself.
lol
3t.
lol

guild needs somebody to fill in as tank for a few weeks
so I stepped back onto bear
let me just say
don. Im going to boost druid for BFA
cant go wrong with druid they can do it all
gotta flex
cant go wrong with druid
argus wq content as bear:
"imma pull everything on the planet and laugh"
Argus wq content as brewmaster:
"imma pull this one dude and welp I'm almost dead and he's half hp"
I want to love monk
i do
but
there is just 0 comparison ¯_(ツ)_/¯
my dhtank was like pull a billion things.
for casual content anyway
Thrash all the things
double leap and mass grip and spirit bomb
I do bear for WQ on my feral, just easy. thrash and throw up iron fur once in a while
For actual raiding etc brm can be pretty lit/cheatmode
but anyway
@lone junco I wouldn't advise bear for BFA tbh
Which build is stronger on coven?
Affliction
alpha isn't looking good and I think they're going to obliterate bears
@keen inlet Ill be resto/moonkin prob
bears were king for legion
as were aff locks
they won't get a second xpac as rulers
Demo looked fun last time I saw it
I just am allergic to Ret.
Theres some edge case apl improv thats available.
Nonmantle alac wants to rup instead of env due to no tb.
Using the anti rules for tier uptime were a loss for alac vigor.
Still better to max uptime for anti tho.
@viscid helm
so my hpal flex is limited.
Lokkes fun is just right
I'm predicting Pally tanks, maybe monk, perhaps dh as king tanks in BFA
def pally tanks tho
I'd stake my feeble retirement on it
I've decided I've given up on heroic ABT, Pugging it isnt worth the frustration anymore. So Just going to get alts as high as I can. Spose I could m+ too meh
which build bis for solo poison or bleed?
I bet warrior tanks make a strong comeback once they do some tuning
Either @north basin
its still in alpha thou
@north basin Poison's easier to gear. Bleed can be mighty on solo
but I'd say poison, given your white name and likely gear level
poison
i just dont know which strings to apply for crucible. coz reroling from subrogue
bleed is not for wqq
Guys any suggestion for eonar mythic? I’m currently doing 1.5 mil dps as assa with cloak and wrist leggo and currently equipped 966 , I fill like I’m doing something wrong on the entire fight :/
I mean. I dont know anything a low lvl rogue deals with now.
warrior tank 2 piece is very very strong they do decent damage
I see ranks of rog hitting 4 mils :/
gear level around 965. i dont get white nick reference thou
@split furnace tree boss? all luck on the first spawn. fok env bomb? rip
just have half the raid afk
ranks on that fight is just cheese/rng
its not even inlcuded in all star ranking
Ya well there’s a dh and 2 locks just smashing everything that spawns so :/
Ignore the st adds and cheese on the big packs even tho your rl yells at you
Ignore and keep padding
So it’s pretty normal to be on 1.5 mil dps at that fight
@keen inlet I just want a Mass grip tank, with battle rez, heal offspec, and ranged dps. is that so hard?
But tbh your rl will be nxt to you paddding xD
if you want to do more and everyone is blowing shit up go sub and use the fok cloak
Yes it is..... Your job as sin rogue on that figjt is ship and big fuckers
lol
That's all
so basically a bear druid with a blood dk riding on its back spamming gorefiend's grasp?
i saw yesterday in logs poison bomb main damaging ability. its exists in both builds poison /bleed? just cant access to wcl coz its down right now
sounds awesome tbh
Scro was saying Warrior tanks were hella strong in BFA
pb is on the sin artifact as a passive
adios set bonuses in bfa tho
Eonar as Ele is pretty fun
yeh
Its the only fight I use KJBW since its a fast nuke and I can get an extra hit to everyone before they all die
outlaw not so much. You'd think blade flurry, but it's sustained and doesn't burst as fast as sin poison ticks
and/or pb
BF lol
wheelchair flurry
when assa started to pull ahead? coz at early antorus i saw monks wariors locks on ST and now assa can pull same and even higher, missed that point.,,,,
@keen inlet Dh tank/melee+resto druid offspec
oh, that's two classes tho
Monks tho 💪
Monktanks are great for raid, utter shit for everything else, at least currently in my experience
yeah. its my struggle. I dont do alts.
and i'm assuming alting will be bad/worse in BFA, because I'm a pessimist
so I'm conflicted about what toon to main
im going to aim for M+ as much as for flex raid.
Bad worse than legion? I don’t think so
as I don't want to be locked into a 3-spec sub-par dps (rogue)
so prob moonkin/resto
monk tank during grievous week
there are some changes that should make alting better
no healer can fucking heal that xd
alting will be better
weapon farming on alts will be rough
So boring they messed up the alt thingy... like to put some effort on but takes shitton to maintain your main. 😡
weapon farming is a -
Ill get offspec faster than good stuff on an alt
people think the loss of set bonus is a big freedom
same concerns here, i wana fotm for god sake and i dont wana do false bet. so need to think who gona blow charts in bfa
And not be locked on dropping the fucking leggo
tier was good for offspecs
6p main, was 6p for offspec.
no
but at least not having set bonuses on top
the same
is a bit of an improvement
it probably values M+ more then.
cause we will have an array of drops for the 6p slots
because right now we have
weapon relics/ap (weapon drops replace)
set bonuses (azerite armor?)
leggos (new util leggos? and/or azerite armor)
early to tell but
maybe my pessimism is misplaced
(I say every f'n expansion )
i think one of the biggest issues
with legion
was alting
people really complained about it
yeah. so brutal.
i cant see them not fixing it to an extent
nah you know what I'm gonna dig my heels in on this one
the only consistency in WoW is disappointment
no one is forcing you to play alts
or wow?
@vernal adder I like alts. I don't like alts to be the same investment as mains.
they shouldn't be.
you should be able to play alts
mains should feed alts imo
thats the thing
Progress on mains should lessen requirements on alts.
You already did the content.
I like the blue gear BoA drops
ye I agree just saying
I dont like refarming rep.
Back when you run soo once and had an alt ready to go
Assuming you did lege q bullshit
I mean
My main is a god for my ilvl and availability, but I sacrificed alt play for sure. prob best that way. I dont have 22hrs a week anymore.
I loved WoD alting. But I admit it was terrible design, and not engaging at all past initial set-up.
There's gotta be a happy medium between WoD and Legion "alting"
i think so
I remember BC. I dinged fresh 80? and went in green on my hpal. and came out of 1 raid in almost full purp
they sought to make chracter progression more "meaningful"
put a time ramp.
which is just code for
I dont want a time ramp on alts.
"more tedious"
Well
engagement metrics
etc.
But BC was interesting/different anyway
the ilvls were closer between tiers/raids
so there wasn't this huge jump in gear
somebody in kara/t4 could hold their own against somebody in t5, but there would be a gap
it wasn't really until t6 that the diff was evident
I had the most fun in wrath but I started playing mid tbc, so I was behind in gear thankfully I was lucky and got geared pretty quick
anyway. Ill focus BFA on M+ edge and prob better raid control ie ranged/heal flex.
but you could hop into t6 in t4 stuff
any word on feral in bfa?
who cares
Noobe this weekend was dishwasher installation and living room reconfig for us--pcs are now behind the couch facing TV
All I know is that incarn was too far apart
fuck ferals
feral, aka Rougelite
vulpera ferals
poverty rogue
for goldshire
i will uninstall if they ever make hozen playable
racial should be blind--throw poo
i dont care about races.
i am conflicted
@jovial kite dont you guys have a baller feral?
The dilemma:
I want to have cross-role options
Monk:
- Unsure that BRM will ever be fun solo without a better selfheal, and whether it'll stand up to raiding in bfa
- WW is fun, more fun to me than feral
Druid:
- I think bears are gonna be nerfed into oblivion
- feral isn't fun to me
- Balance feels awkward to me
- tank/melee/ranged/heals
- resto
just play both
Demon hunter: complex dps spec and OP tank spec
Problem solves
Or just main something your team doesnt have for sweet raid buffs
Complex dps spec? Do they get to press 4 buttons now instead of 3?
I think it is eyebeam
I died
Spam cs
Dk is slow as fuck, i couls never main that
BM hunter
Rogue:
Expose Armor Your [generators] expose weaknesses in the target's armor, increasing Physical damage taken by 5%.
Warlock:
Curse of the Elements Your damage curses the target, increasing magic damage taken by 5% for 1 min.
nice
they brought back CoE?
ye
weird way to do it but I guess lol
demo looks supah c00l tho
Sin seems decent, even at low gear levels. I haven’t logged in since the latest updates though.
Dispatch as a talent is a crime
I don’t enjoy the sub play style so I haven’t tried it yet
shoulders and boots gives better sustain dps ?
Well alpha you don’t have leggos st all lol
ye, sub feels so bad
It’s ilvl 190 greens
No it’s not character copy
Templates
You can make any class
@lone junco yeah
easily one of the best ferals in the world
publicly logged anyhow
but im quite sure hes one of the best nevertheless
ive resisted playing druid for . . . 15 yrs or whatnot.
but.
ill prob boost one for BFA.
@jovial kite are there any boss fights where he is flat out better than you? 1t 2t cleave?
p much equal st
hes usually better in cleave and full aoe
because brutal slash is broken
but i sometimes win him on coven
full aoe i should lose 100%
just catching up
im going to really hammer the bulk aoe for M+ next time. + like having a brez. fucking druids.
nah
seems that dh are complete shit without proper tier/oranges rn.
or ours is a special breed.
was interesting to see the talent compare flex 25% based on wearing t20 in a t21 build.
wonder if bleed will ever get to the point where it beats a good RNG poison pull
now?
probably not
I haven't seen a high level dh tank
so
I have no experience/opinion
but the lowbie/pug ones are god-awful
😄
@shrewd oriole I had a 100% bota uptime on garothi this week. effectively bis bomb equiv. I was 100k over sim avg. seems that shoulder/bracer can push like 300k over avg?
so no.
for consistent character that can tank assuming you wanna be melee I'd go DK over druid
yeah fair
easily 300k over sim on an insane pull
that Dh movemtent. is king. double leap and mass grip
yep
Our prot pally was pissed when he ran a 5man on scrub DH
like "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
I was lolling pretty good
maybe the spikes and parry are shit for raid hits, but man the movement is good
I mean...
and spirit bomb refreshes sooo fast
prot pala is great in dungeons
it is. but not the same
🍆
I haven't seen a high level prot pally either
i dunno man. our druid pushes out some juice.
really think prot pally time is coming, bfa
it's been quite a while since they led the tank pack
@olive crow thoughts on revamps?
i can't remember if it was mop or wod but I sincerely tried protadin and it just felt so boring/awful i gave up
im just mad at hpal mastery tbh. I dont like the feels
Oops wrong one, fucking hell
M+ toolkit is neat. but ranged heal boost is dumb
Oh yea
Dude
I'm actually such an idiot
Abandon date
I was just thinking to myself I need to buy groceries for friday
to stay up for like 24hours
fuck me man
rip you
i renamed this channel to make it more accurate
I should rename Outlaw to "Loktark_Worship"
XD
@shrewd oriole
@quick talon i got a build for you
are u meming
when do you guys typical burn your points on envenom, im finding I loose some points every once in awhile.
If CP >=4
'Ele conversion bladevortex
double dip on harness of void
BOONK GANG
idk yet
this BV or deadye shield throw
or CI crit occult
i mean still need to wait for scion and necro releases
unluck
or riot
Sure, yet fun to get
that just feels fucking amazing
Yes, sir ?
nm
u okay bud?
Jose.exe is broken
@quick talon into the breach coming out tomorrow
yah
👀
21 hours
so like 3-4pm for me tmrw
Gameplay looks fucking interessting in that trailer
i can see myself playing that all day n night tmrw
@gaunt moat vermintide 2 beta still running tho
really? well in any case i need people to play it with and i'll just wait for release
@gaunt moat what did you rename it to ahah
you'll never know now
Cmon
😦
I was awayy
Man I have two things this weekend and it’s poe weekend I’m gonna kill myself
🏏
concordance doesnt give hp anymore right?
no
The buff?
No, trait
dude
Oh....sorry..my bad
78, pleb
Appologiez
❤
I’m almost 81, literal zero desire to farm AP anymore, haven’t for months
There’s some guy on my server with double my total AP, which is batshit crazy
I was looking at this
why would anyone farm a single point of AP after 75?
I don’t farm
no1 does I think
I’ve just gotten it
got mine from raid/mb
Have all 3 specs at 75 so I just keep putting it into sin
I only do a couple emissaries per werk
Week
After basically only missing a handful throughout the entire first year of the expac
Seems they successfully implemented their “we don’t want ppl to farm this” mechanic
@viscid helm that attitude is why you'll never be in a good guild

s a v a g e
no bully
some people farm it, Ive seen a log of someone with 86 points I think?
Yea when I looked the other day, I was at 6.something trillion and change, I’m like 90% through whatever the point is that takes 1 trillion to get.
And the highest person on my server was around 12 something
Which is bonkers
some people just have too much time
I have only 85
"only" 🤔
if you think about it AP is just a really slow catch-up mechanism/soft nerf
but it is really slow
so I can understand why some would say "no way"
Its just extra damage so why not
But you can get 66 which gives the entire second row the day you hit 110
Or very shortly thereafter
k im benched
Yea once it’s above 100bil per point
Which I really don't see the point of
@viscid helm how
you want to slam a brick wall of ap
teach me daddy
do it at 75
i just keep putting the ap i get into sin and im at 80 right now. I just put whatever AP i get into it at the weapon.
took a lot of effort
Did i tag the right flowi? @olive crow
but i was at 79 for like 3 weeks or so. and will probbaly be at 80 for a similar amount of time
and the only loot i got was transmog helmet 🙃
but that didnt work right
i love raiding
apparently we are allowed to sell bench spots from next raid onwards
meaning
i can bench every week
even if i lose the roll
Flex mythic raids when
Alt mythic when
never
prob going to recruit a good rogue if i go heals next tier. so which one of you guys wants to be 3months behind on heroic content?
I faked a power failure once
i've done that
fucking glad blizzard finally added the "appear offline" thing in messanger

and faked "dog got out"
"shouldnt have let fucking flowi bench"
We were supposed to do imonar last night, but our resto shaman left raid/gquit, and we had other ppl out so we couldn’t continue

weak playing his mage?
yes
Cx
Super low on healers atm :/
vari,kin and aggramar on "farm".
👌
the first two are nightmares i don't want to think about the third one.
Zero chance I’m gonna last raiding every week for six more months
yeh burnout starting to set in
I was fine until my friends started being hey wanna hang out and I'm like umm, might be able to if I get benched.
i swear
Now I kind of don't want to raid for time being
I manipulated guild to move raid to nights that friends never want to do anything
people fighting to be benched always confused me
as soon as I succeeded
haha
@shrewd notch there are certain fights that I don't need loot for, so I get benched for it. Mostly eonar/inomar ATM.
well for instance sometime's i'll ask for volunteers to sit out for a day, or for half the day, and then i'll get 5 whispers
like don't you people want to raid
they want loot and kills, not endless brick-walling progression after a certain point
if they already have loot from the farmed bosses and don't see the new boss dying anytime soon, yeah
I get it
burnout is real
i guess. i never really cared about the loot myself, just the challenge
I like the loot
loot's fun, but it's a means to an end for me
ofc its fun to kill a boss you been stuck on
brute forcing bosses seems to me not like a challange tho
Prog is fine it’s reclearing over and over when you aren’t going to get anything out of it
helo
Ill have one
having fun yet

jesus christ
i have 40% crit + 24% from BB + 10% from dog and some from conc proc
and the crit value is still dumb
I have 3x MoS traits
crit over mastery for ep.
0 shocklight
yay
😦
haste climbing nicely
Can you give me some rn
bleach or haste?
Both do
About to start progress on Mythic Coven. any quick tips, apart from ditching the raid:)
?
play warlock?
I have a Shadowpriest with good legendaries and 4p from normal:P might legit be better than my rogue lol
It's actually not bad at all as a rogue as long as the rest of your raid group isn't all melee.
You can cloak a ton of stuff
well, about that-.-
bully your raid into letting you stand in the middle between bosses during lightning adds
"disconnect"
haste 51
def nice with the higher crit.
You can add like 20-40k to alac sims
Depending
But its still behind tb no surprise
yeh i mean i have 40% crit / 26% haste / 150% mast and 15% vers
👋
Amanthul would be pretty fucking nice upgrade
boots/bracer
aight
is that poe?
Thinking of switching to my rogue for m+, I was wondering what's the best leggo combos for mythic plus and how they stack up in m+?
yeh invoker
think theres Sabo and inq left
if im not mistaken
and then scion will be last
nerf that shit pls
INQ pen. nerf INC
idk inq pen has already become medicore
Lappe
Yeah
so many sources for pen
Lots of other pen.
Flowi u going SSF?
god no
They might put it at the end of a branch that is not very interesting?
cba limiting myself to couple low tier builds
Every time I get a relic upgrade the weapon iLevel goes down
It's an ethics thing
Yeah that's nice.
Wondering how trappy Sab. is going to be.
Considering the rest of the laser focus they have been applying I assume, mucho trappo.
zzz rogue time
Neither did I.
💤
Makes me happy that there is an ASC. focused on it and that it's not in other places.
I wasn't expecting Trickster to be such a generalized ASC. though. Very cool that we get a "agility" tank though.
"tank"
trickster gonna get nerfed so hard
Quite.
Unless the math doesn't shake out the way people think.
I mean you're not even looking at Escape Artist.... > _>
Add that to the fucking list, haha.
I DO LIKE...
that some of the ASC. are going to be removing the need for certain items.
Deadeye tailwing tho
looking for mass cleave. relatively fast farm, and medium to high personal defense. does summoner follow that? or a glass cannon hiding behind ads?
what game are you even talking about
Slayer fits that.
I loved my freezing pulse. but rip
2H DPS, relatively tanky.
what is wow?
I like butt smashing
It's even less buttons in some cases.
makes it worse
You must not play Frost Mage.
In the best game ever made.
World of Warcraft
You must not play Assassination, the best Rogue spec.
In the best game ever made.
World of Warcraft.
There's dramatically more planning on PoE than some would expect.
ok
lost ark looks ways better
Like... graphically?
everytime I think my guy is good. my friends are just stand and beast on a boss ,while im doing corpse runs
Cause that game plays like ass.
graphically and the animations in general
Like a bad MMO.
there are good mmos? 👀
your skills look like smth
_ >
😄
If you think that skills in PoE don't look Unique and easily identifiable then this isn't going anywhere.
Because they are.
I... what...
???
uneployment office hunting him down for being a slacker
l o l
is great cloak of the dark pantheon even worth having as a sin rogue?
Sim Your Self Raidbots.com
thanks
Because it's impossible to answer that question without seeing everything else about your character.
Can also look at top parses and see that most rogues are probably using tier cloak
everyone should have a greatcloak of the dark pantheon
Also >haste
@dusty palm
As mizerok said use sims but haste is generally your worst stat. I would probably avoid it
Is golganneth good for m+? 🤔
Seems fine > _>"
heheh... heheheh... heh
Looks it's random... totally... not gonna proc a lot.
You should activate your windows flowi
^hey i am new to assa and wondering if its normal that multilate only appears on the action bar when i am close enough to an enemy to use it?
great question. do you not have mutilate on your stealth bar?

@vapid moth those are nicknames applied in Details by flowi.
He still wins at life >_>
I want a space
See
Unlike your windows
kappa
zing
Btw I like the rainbow effect you had going on there too
do you guys sell mythic argus yet? like carry for 1mg?
My guild should do that. Sadly we can’t even beat heroic argus
Ayy flowi
This new PoE shit, is that the same as I can find on steam?
Or is it some other shit?
Yeah but don't use the Steam Client there's some wacky shit going on there from time to time.
Nothing naughty, but w/e.
monkaS
Hey hey hey, we're all a little... physically handicapped.
i'm getting most nasty poison bombs procs
in my entire life
on argus mythic
and we're wiping
😦
i think every module i got like 2 psn bombs at least
_ >
you switch to modules?
not worth
tbf
it dies to fast for rupt to be worth
well
we're waiting with moving the boss a little bit so we can cleave i guess
I know. I just dont really care

Winde padding and parsing green btw
haha
nice
ohh logs work
hello discord... load the image please...
its just alacrity
👍
i play s ub on aggramar because i believe
one day
i'm allowed to spam shuriken storm
like a madman
it's only cause slow kill time, he gets lots of time in execution 😄
lol
flowi casually carrying whole memento on his back
i still don't know if he is actually using alacrity or trolling
Same
🤔
we use alac
What's troll about alacrity?
No shit cause raid ended 🤔
O
I really wish you'd just public log
how is alacrity a benefit over TB though, when haste is not that impactful?
you get more DP procs so more energy or something?
So i can see
@civic palm Kurokami..
special snowflakes
With alacrity you have enough energy to break everyone's CCs easier.
With poison dagger.
Oops I pb the embers kappa
Hey I switched to assn for my guilds mythic agg kill and am wondering how I can optimize with cd and mantle usage better. Is mantle evenom burst the way to go and just using CDs on CD or what
how are glaives for sin since your only way to buff its damage is through shoulders? Not as good as sub but still good?
Yeah never watched that.
Note the silver/white hair... on any of these characters.
hahaha
hmmm, I think I've seen/read some other stuff from this manga author though
Mmm yeah he did some of the art for Space Dandy, there it iiis.
and the author also wrote Freezing, that makes sense.
So hey if you like that kinda story look for anything else that author did as there's a chance it's been made into a show and is probably the same premise.
whats so special about this anime
Oh man the jargon...
i hung up the second
"Terra," a life-energy force split between three identical looking people
she said the anime name




