#assassination

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lethal heart
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was suprised actually

viscid helm
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o ye

lone junco
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my line is 997Mb

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yay google.

viscid helm
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i was supposed to do the 980 profiles

desert karma
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really?

viscid helm
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see how dog shit TB really is

lethal heart
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is alacrity a thing

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for assa

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or memeing

shrewd oriole
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no

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memeing

viscid helm
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its a thing

lethal heart
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coz i dont fucking know legit

viscid helm
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dude

lone junco
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alac is a 2% loss at worst

lethal heart
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like when i started playing assa on argus

shrewd oriole
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it's an elaborate troll tyler1Monk

lethal heart
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i legit

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was mid pull simming my character

viscid helm
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if the APL is improved

lone junco
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and bracers dont even buff env during tb.

viscid helm
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its gonna sim higher than TB

desert karma
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why would you use Alacrity if you dont want haste?

shrewd oriole
lethal heart
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because its 20% of haste

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its a lot

soft finch
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Alacrity gives a fuckload

lethal heart
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exactly

viscid helm
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haste is better value than agi

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these days

lethal heart
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monkaS

lone junco
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with T21.

lethal heart
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haste versa buff bis

soft finch
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Pants trinket too

lone junco
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and proper crit.

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and bracer

soft finch
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Panth

viscid helm
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Alacrity also allows for 100% uptime

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on Envenom and 2pc

lethal heart
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i really liked alacrity

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back when ago psn was a thing

lone junco
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I tested it on ptr a while back. with MP anti you could hold 95% env/2p. so it makes sense that alacrity would feed that.

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just slow clipping and less burst.

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prob need a fuck load of mastery, but w/e

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lol at the anti apl being shit for the entire tier. Nothing surprises me anymore.

desert karma
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do you guys rupture and envenom at 4 cp?

shrewd night
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Yes

desert karma
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doesnt that give less dps though?

vernal adder
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no

steep obsidian
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wasting cp is a dps hit

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so anticip is actually decent?

desert karma
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but if I use my Envenom at 4 it hits like a wet noodle

jovial kite
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you hit like a wet noodle if you mut at 4cp

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your noodle is out of juice

steep obsidian
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every time you mut at 4cp you are losing half an envnenom or something

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think about it that way

jovial kite
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you lose 2/3rds every time atleast

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for energy invested and cp gained / lost

desert karma
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wow, didnt know that, will try and change that habbit now

lone junco
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yeah mut is 2 3 4 cps. so at 4 you gain 1. lol

desert karma
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so howcome no one uses the other 2 talents besides vigor so they dont cap cp?

lone junco
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some do. vig is just very strong.

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besides a 3cp mut +tb or 3cp mut +kb or 3cp mut +garrote or 4cp mut

desert karma
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you dont use kb and tb on cooldown?

lone junco
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you do, but they give cps as well.

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vigor is also best for shoulder window. lets you hammer out more env during the crit.

shrewd oriole
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I love the pope

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"fake news is like getting sexually aroused by faeces"

lone junco
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My first priest was named Pope.

shrewd oriole
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this truly is a weird timeline

lone junco
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sexually aroused by poop?

vernal adder
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eat da poopoo

unreal coyote
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lol

lone junco
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-1.6% isnt horrible.

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esp if apl tweaks can make a diff

drifting crypt
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why not MP with alacrity?

lone junco
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basically that means. we have flat lined.

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lol

steep obsidian
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spec whatever you want, press whatever button you want

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still do the same

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/nod

lone junco
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2382 to 2326 is a small spread

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just mash all the shit.

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just dont take hem0

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i just ran this for myself.

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lol

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3t.

shrewd oriole
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lol

keen inlet
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I've gone

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to the dark side

shrewd night
keen inlet
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guild needs somebody to fill in as tank for a few weeks

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so I stepped back onto bear

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let me just say

lone junco
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don. Im going to boost druid for BFA

steep obsidian
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cant go wrong with druid they can do it all

lone junco
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gotta flex

vernal adder
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cant go wrong with druid

keen inlet
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argus wq content as bear:
"imma pull everything on the planet and laugh"

Argus wq content as brewmaster:
"imma pull this one dude and welp I'm almost dead and he's half hp"

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I want to love monk

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i do

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but

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there is just 0 comparison ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lone junco
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my dhtank was like pull a billion things.

keen inlet
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for casual content anyway

shrewd night
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Thrash all the things

lone junco
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double leap and mass grip and spirit bomb

hoary copper
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I do bear for WQ on my feral, just easy. thrash and throw up iron fur once in a while

keen inlet
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For actual raiding etc brm can be pretty lit/cheatmode

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but anyway

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@lone junco I wouldn't advise bear for BFA tbh

winged parrot
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Which build is stronger on coven?

hoary copper
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Affliction

keen inlet
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alpha isn't looking good and I think they're going to obliterate bears

lone junco
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@keen inlet Ill be resto/moonkin prob

keen inlet
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bears were king for legion

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as were aff locks

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they won't get a second xpac as rulers

hoary copper
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Demo looked fun last time I saw it

lone junco
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I just am allergic to Ret.

warm parcel
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Theres some edge case apl improv thats available.
Nonmantle alac wants to rup instead of env due to no tb.
Using the anti rules for tier uptime were a loss for alac vigor.
Still better to max uptime for anti tho.
@viscid helm

lone junco
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so my hpal flex is limited.

shrewd night
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Lokkes fun is just right

keen inlet
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I'm predicting Pally tanks, maybe monk, perhaps dh as king tanks in BFA

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def pally tanks tho

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I'd stake my feeble retirement on it

hoary copper
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I've decided I've given up on heroic ABT, Pugging it isnt worth the frustration anymore. So Just going to get alts as high as I can. Spose I could m+ too meh

north basin
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which build bis for solo poison or bleed?

hoary copper
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I bet warrior tanks make a strong comeback once they do some tuning

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Either @north basin

vernal adder
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its still in alpha thou

keen inlet
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@north basin Poison's easier to gear. Bleed can be mighty on solo

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but I'd say poison, given your white name and likely gear level

lone junco
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poison

north basin
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i just dont know which strings to apply for crucible. coz reroling from subrogue

lone junco
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bleed is not for wqq

split furnace
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Guys any suggestion for eonar mythic? I’m currently doing 1.5 mil dps as assa with cloak and wrist leggo and currently equipped 966 , I fill like I’m doing something wrong on the entire fight :/

lone junco
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I mean. I dont know anything a low lvl rogue deals with now.

steep obsidian
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warrior tank 2 piece is very very strong they do decent damage

split furnace
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I see ranks of rog hitting 4 mils :/

north basin
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gear level around 965. i dont get white nick reference thou

steep obsidian
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@split furnace have your raid afk until you get poison bombs

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im not even joking

lone junco
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@split furnace tree boss? all luck on the first spawn. fok env bomb? rip

steep obsidian
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just have half the raid afk

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ranks on that fight is just cheese/rng

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its not even inlcuded in all star ranking

split furnace
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Ya well there’s a dh and 2 locks just smashing everything that spawns so :/

brisk forge
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Ignore the st adds and cheese on the big packs even tho your rl yells at you

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Ignore and keep padding

split furnace
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So it’s pretty normal to be on 1.5 mil dps at that fight

lone junco
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@keen inlet I just want a Mass grip tank, with battle rez, heal offspec, and ranged dps. is that so hard?

brisk forge
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But tbh your rl will be nxt to you paddding xD

steep obsidian
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if you want to do more and everyone is blowing shit up go sub and use the fok cloak

kindred forge
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Yes it is..... Your job as sin rogue on that figjt is ship and big fuckers

keen inlet
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lol

kindred forge
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That's all

keen inlet
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so basically a bear druid with a blood dk riding on its back spamming gorefiend's grasp?

north basin
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i saw yesterday in logs poison bomb main damaging ability. its exists in both builds poison /bleed? just cant access to wcl coz its down right now

keen inlet
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sounds awesome tbh

solid field
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Scro was saying Warrior tanks were hella strong in BFA

steep obsidian
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pb is on the sin artifact as a passive

keen inlet
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It's early

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but

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yeah, wouldn't be surprised

steep obsidian
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the warrior tank 2p is pretty darn good

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its fun as hell too

keen inlet
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adios set bonuses in bfa tho

hoary copper
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Eonar as Ele is pretty fun

steep obsidian
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yeh

keen inlet
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Eonar as sin is actually fun

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camp, spam fok

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nuke bigly dewd

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repeat

hoary copper
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Its the only fight I use KJBW since its a fast nuke and I can get an extra hit to everyone before they all die

keen inlet
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outlaw not so much. You'd think blade flurry, but it's sustained and doesn't burst as fast as sin poison ticks

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and/or pb

brisk forge
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BF lol

solar fog
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wheelchair flurry

north basin
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when assa started to pull ahead? coz at early antorus i saw monks wariors locks on ST and now assa can pull same and even higher, missed that point.,,,,

lone junco
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@keen inlet Dh tank/melee+resto druid offspec

keen inlet
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oh, that's two classes tho

brisk forge
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Monks tho 💪

unreal coyote
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if youre beating your warriors

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something is wrong probably

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or you got rngesus'd

keen inlet
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Monktanks are great for raid, utter shit for everything else, at least currently in my experience

lone junco
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yeah. its my struggle. I dont do alts.

keen inlet
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and i'm assuming alting will be bad/worse in BFA, because I'm a pessimist

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so I'm conflicted about what toon to main

lone junco
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im going to aim for M+ as much as for flex raid.

split furnace
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Bad worse than legion? I don’t think so

keen inlet
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as I don't want to be locked into a 3-spec sub-par dps (rogue)

lone junco
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so prob moonkin/resto

keen inlet
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well

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actually

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if I step back

lethal heart
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monk tank during grievous week

keen inlet
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there are some changes that should make alting better

lethal heart
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no healer can fucking heal that xd

unreal coyote
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alting will be better

keen inlet
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the neck/ap is still an issue, potentially

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but no set bonuses

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is a major alt plus

lone junco
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weapon farming on alts will be rough

brisk forge
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So boring they messed up the alt thingy... like to put some effort on but takes shitton to maintain your main. 😡

keen inlet
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weapon farming is a -

lone junco
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Ill get offspec faster than good stuff on an alt

unreal coyote
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people think the loss of set bonus is a big freedom

north basin
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same concerns here, i wana fotm for god sake and i dont wana do false bet. so need to think who gona blow charts in bfa

unreal coyote
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you dont think

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the effects from azerite armor

split furnace
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And not be locked on dropping the fucking leggo

lone junco
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tier was good for offspecs

unreal coyote
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will cuck you all the same

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i got news for youuuu

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lol

keen inlet
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Arbiter the affects from azerite are more like weapon relics currently

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imo

lone junco
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6p main, was 6p for offspec.

keen inlet
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and/or leggo system

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so I wouldn't say it's worse

unreal coyote
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no

keen inlet
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but at least not having set bonuses on top

unreal coyote
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the same

keen inlet
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is a bit of an improvement

lone junco
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it probably values M+ more then.

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cause we will have an array of drops for the 6p slots

keen inlet
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because right now we have
weapon relics/ap (weapon drops replace)
set bonuses (azerite armor?)
leggos (new util leggos? and/or azerite armor)

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early to tell but

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maybe my pessimism is misplaced

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(I say every f'n expansion )

unreal coyote
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i think one of the biggest issues

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with legion

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was alting

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people really complained about it

lone junco
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yeah. so brutal.

unreal coyote
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i cant see them not fixing it to an extent

keen inlet
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nah you know what I'm gonna dig my heels in on this one

the only consistency in WoW is disappointment

vernal adder
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no one is forcing you to play alts

lone junco
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or wow?

keen inlet
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@vernal adder I like alts. I don't like alts to be the same investment as mains.

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they shouldn't be.

unreal coyote
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you should be able to play alts

lone junco
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mains should feed alts imo

unreal coyote
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thats the thing

keen inlet
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Progress on mains should lessen requirements on alts.

unreal coyote
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yes

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i 100% agree

keen inlet
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You already did the content.

lone junco
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I like the blue gear BoA drops

vernal adder
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ye I agree just saying

lone junco
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I dont like refarming rep.

warm parcel
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Back when you run soo once and had an alt ready to go

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Assuming you did lege q bullshit

keen inlet
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I mean

lone junco
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My main is a god for my ilvl and availability, but I sacrificed alt play for sure. prob best that way. I dont have 22hrs a week anymore.

keen inlet
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I loved WoD alting. But I admit it was terrible design, and not engaging at all past initial set-up.

There's gotta be a happy medium between WoD and Legion "alting"

unreal coyote
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i think so

lone junco
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I remember BC. I dinged fresh 80? and went in green on my hpal. and came out of 1 raid in almost full purp

unreal coyote
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and i think we will have it given to us

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bc was 70

lone junco
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purple cloth/leather/mail/plate. ding.

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I guess they wanted to squish that.

unreal coyote
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they sought to make chracter progression more "meaningful"

lone junco
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put a time ramp.

unreal coyote
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which is just code for

lone junco
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I dont want a time ramp on alts.

unreal coyote
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"more tedious"

keen inlet
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Well

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engagement metrics

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etc.

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But BC was interesting/different anyway

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the ilvls were closer between tiers/raids

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so there wasn't this huge jump in gear

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somebody in kara/t4 could hold their own against somebody in t5, but there would be a gap

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it wasn't really until t6 that the diff was evident

vernal adder
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I had the most fun in wrath but I started playing mid tbc, so I was behind in gear thankfully I was lucky and got geared pretty quick

lone junco
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anyway. Ill focus BFA on M+ edge and prob better raid control ie ranged/heal flex.

keen inlet
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but you could hop into t6 in t4 stuff

unreal coyote
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and get destroyed

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sure

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lol

lone junco
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any word on feral in bfa?

unreal coyote
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who cares

keen inlet
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Noobe this weekend was dishwasher installation and living room reconfig for us--pcs are now behind the couch facing TV

lone junco
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All I know is that incarn was too far apart

unreal coyote
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fuck ferals

keen inlet
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feral, aka Rougelite

vernal adder
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vulpera ferals

unreal coyote
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poverty rogue

keen inlet
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vulpera

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why

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are we getting foxppl

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when it's been years

vernal adder
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for goldshire

keen inlet
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and we don't have hozen

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I WANT MY HOZEN

unreal coyote
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i will uninstall if they ever make hozen playable

keen inlet
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racial should be blind--throw poo

lone junco
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i dont care about races.

keen inlet
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i am conflicted

lone junco
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@jovial kite dont you guys have a baller feral?

keen inlet
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The dilemma:
I want to have cross-role options
Monk:

  • Unsure that BRM will ever be fun solo without a better selfheal, and whether it'll stand up to raiding in bfa
  • WW is fun, more fun to me than feral

Druid:

  • I think bears are gonna be nerfed into oblivion
  • feral isn't fun to me
  • Balance feels awkward to me
  • tank/melee/ranged/heals
  • resto
lethal heart
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druid safer bet i'd say

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if you're into mythic raiding and stuff

spare cloud
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just play both

patent topaz
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Demon hunter: complex dps spec and OP tank spec

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Problem solves

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Or just main something your team doesnt have for sweet raid buffs

lone junco
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fuck. raid buffs

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ill need to look at that soon

hoary copper
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Complex dps spec? Do they get to press 4 buttons now instead of 3?

shrewd oriole
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c om p l e x

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L U L

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DH

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COMPLEX

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jesus christ

patent topaz
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I think it is eyebeam

shrewd oriole
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I died

patent topaz
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Spam cs

shrewd oriole
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frost deekay

patent topaz
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Dk is slow as fuck, i couls never main that

ripe nimbus
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BM hunter

lone junco
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Rogue:
Expose Armor Your [generators] expose weaknesses in the target's armor, increasing Physical damage taken by 5%.

Warlock:
Curse of the Elements Your damage curses the target, increasing magic damage taken by 5% for 1 min.

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nice

hoary copper
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they brought back CoE?

shrewd oriole
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ye

hoary copper
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weird way to do it but I guess lol

shrewd oriole
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demo looks supah c00l tho

urban storm
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Sin seems decent, even at low gear levels. I haven’t logged in since the latest updates though.

patent topaz
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Dispatch as a talent is a crime

urban storm
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I don’t enjoy the sub play style so I haven’t tried it yet

torn coyote
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shoulders and boots gives better sustain dps ?

urban storm
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Well alpha you don’t have leggos st all lol

shrewd oriole
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ye, sub feels so bad

urban storm
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It’s ilvl 190 greens

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No it’s not character copy

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Templates

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You can make any class

jovial kite
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@lone junco yeah

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easily one of the best ferals in the world

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publicly logged anyhow

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but im quite sure hes one of the best nevertheless

lone junco
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ive resisted playing druid for . . . 15 yrs or whatnot.

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but.

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ill prob boost one for BFA.

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@jovial kite are there any boss fights where he is flat out better than you? 1t 2t cleave?

jovial kite
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p much equal st

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hes usually better in cleave and full aoe

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because brutal slash is broken

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but i sometimes win him on coven

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full aoe i should lose 100%

keen inlet
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just catching up

lone junco
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im going to really hammer the bulk aoe for M+ next time. + like having a brez. fucking druids.

keen inlet
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I am going to assume that Grizz was memeing

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with that "complex spec" comment

shrewd oriole
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nah

lone junco
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seems that dh are complete shit without proper tier/oranges rn.

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or ours is a special breed.

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was interesting to see the talent compare flex 25% based on wearing t20 in a t21 build.

shrewd oriole
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wonder if bleed will ever get to the point where it beats a good RNG poison pull

lone junco
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now?

shrewd oriole
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probably not

keen inlet
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I haven't seen a high level dh tank

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so

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I have no experience/opinion

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but the lowbie/pug ones are god-awful

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😄

shrewd oriole
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DH tank is terrible in raids

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it's amazinng in dungeons tho

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sigils bby

lone junco
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@shrewd oriole I had a 100% bota uptime on garothi this week. effectively bis bomb equiv. I was 100k over sim avg. seems that shoulder/bracer can push like 300k over avg?

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so no.

shrewd oriole
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for consistent character that can tank assuming you wanna be melee I'd go DK over druid

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yeah fair

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easily 300k over sim on an insane pull

lone junco
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that Dh movemtent. is king. double leap and mass grip

shrewd oriole
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yep

lone junco
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Our prot pally was pissed when he ran a 5man on scrub DH

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like "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

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I was lolling pretty good

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maybe the spikes and parry are shit for raid hits, but man the movement is good

shrewd oriole
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I mean...

lone junco
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and spirit bomb refreshes sooo fast

shrewd oriole
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prot pala is great in dungeons

lone junco
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it is. but not the same

shrewd oriole
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at least he's not a warr

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has the highest damage

lone junco
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I love him vs interrupt adds

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Prot in mass cleave?

quick talon
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🍆

keen inlet
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I haven't seen a high level prot pally either

lone junco
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i dunno man. our druid pushes out some juice.

keen inlet
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really think prot pally time is coming, bfa

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it's been quite a while since they led the tank pack

quick talon
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@olive crow thoughts on revamps?

keen inlet
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i can't remember if it was mop or wod but I sincerely tried protadin and it just felt so boring/awful i gave up

lone junco
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im just mad at hpal mastery tbh. I dont like the feels

quick talon
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Oops wrong one, fucking hell

lone junco
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M+ toolkit is neat. but ranged heal boost is dumb

shrewd oriole
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@quick talon ele is so bad

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dunno wtf they are doing

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occultist looks so sick

quick talon
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I like deadeye

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But still reads underwhelming..

shrewd oriole
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dunno

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tailwind could be really good

quick talon
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Oh yea

shrewd oriole
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OMG

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I JUST REALIZED

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the date I scheduled it for poe release date

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FUCK ME

quick talon
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Dude

shrewd oriole
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I'm actually such an idiot

quick talon
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Abandon date

shrewd oriole
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I was just thinking to myself I need to buy groceries for friday

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to stay up for like 24hours

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fuck me man

keen inlet
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rip you

quick talon
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Reschedule date man

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Or call in sick on Thursday

shrewd oriole
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call in sick lmao

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I got ran over last week and I didnt call in

gaunt moat
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i renamed this channel to make it more accurate

keen inlet
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I should rename Outlaw to "Loktark_Worship"

vestal wren
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XD

gaunt moat
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@shrewd oriole

quick talon
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OMG HAHA

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soon to be poe only channel

viscid helm
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@quick talon i got a build for you

quick talon
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are u meming

fresh heron
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when do you guys typical burn your points on envenom, im finding I loose some points every once in awhile.

quick talon
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If CP >=4

viscid helm
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'Ele conversion bladevortex

quick talon
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arcane weaving

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🤔

viscid helm
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double dip on harness of void

quick talon
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Ima save this

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@viscid helm any idea what you are going for ?

nimble tartan
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BOONK GANG

viscid helm
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idk yet

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this BV or deadye shield throw

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or CI crit occult

#

i mean still need to wait for scion and necro releases

quick talon
#

scion might be juicy

#

1,5h till raid

#

😦

viscid helm
#

raid starting rn

#

i better fucking get to bench

quick talon
#

unluck

viscid helm
#

or riot

quick talon
#

GL with tmog

#

Getting Mirror of Kalandra day1 in new league

lethal heart
#

it has no value though on 1st day

#

unless you wanna rmt it

#

then fair game i guess

quick talon
#

Sure, yet fun to get

lethal heart
#

true

#

there is nothing more satisfying than making a 6l though

viscid helm
#

k im not getting bench

#

fuck this

lethal heart
#

that just feels fucking amazing

viscid helm
#

lmao

#

tried to buy bench spot for 100k

#

got denied

quick talon
#

lmao

#

you remind me

#

gotta buy some bleach

#

and trade it to the apes in my raid

keen inlet
#

uh

#

hm.

quick talon
#

Yes, sir ?

keen inlet
#

nm

quick talon
#

u okay bud?

stark heart
#

Jose.exe is broken

gaunt moat
#

@quick talon into the breach coming out tomorrow

quick talon
#

oh is it?

#

thats from the

#

FTL guys right ?

gaunt moat
#

yah

dire spoke
#

👀

quick talon
#

Damn

#

thats an easy buy tbh

#

Do you know how much itll be ?

gaunt moat
#

nope, what does it matter XD

#

that's an insta buy

quick talon
#

21 hours

#

so like 3-4pm for me tmrw

#

Gameplay looks fucking interessting in that trailer

#

i can see myself playing that all day n night tmrw

#

@gaunt moat vermintide 2 beta still running tho

gaunt moat
#

really? well in any case i need people to play it with and i'll just wait for release

quick talon
#

yea 2 of my friends are playing rn

#

raid in 45 min 🤷🏿

shrewd oriole
#

@gaunt moat what did you rename it to ahah

gaunt moat
#

you'll never know now

shrewd oriole
#

Cmon

#

😦

#

I was awayy

#

Man I have two things this weekend and it’s poe weekend I’m gonna kill myself

keen inlet
#

🏏

pastel vault
#

concordance doesnt give hp anymore right?

kindred forge
#

no

warm parcel
#

what

#

ofc it gives

kindred forge
#

The buff?

warm parcel
#

No, trait

kindred forge
#

It does not?

#

Just looking at it

quick talon
#

dude

warm parcel
#

Top left corner

#

aka the trait number

kindred forge
#

Oh....sorry..my bad

urban storm
#

78, pleb

kindred forge
#

Appologiez

quick talon
#

urban storm
#

I’m almost 81, literal zero desire to farm AP anymore, haven’t for months

#

There’s some guy on my server with double my total AP, which is batshit crazy

kindred forge
viscid helm
#

why would anyone farm a single point of AP after 75?

urban storm
#

I don’t farm

quick talon
#

no1 does I think

urban storm
#

I’ve just gotten it

quick talon
#

got mine from raid/mb

urban storm
#

Have all 3 specs at 75 so I just keep putting it into sin

#

I only do a couple emissaries per werk

#

Week

#

After basically only missing a handful throughout the entire first year of the expac

#

Seems they successfully implemented their “we don’t want ppl to farm this” mechanic

gaunt moat
#

@viscid helm that attitude is why you'll never be in a good guild

jovial kite
keen inlet
#

s a v a g e

viscid helm
#

no bully

dense quest
#

Just lfr all the gear you need

#

Stats don’t matter

pastel vault
#

some people farm it, Ive seen a log of someone with 86 points I think?

urban storm
#

Yea when I looked the other day, I was at 6.something trillion and change, I’m like 90% through whatever the point is that takes 1 trillion to get.

#

And the highest person on my server was around 12 something

#

Which is bonkers

grim jay
#

some people just have too much time

dense quest
#

I have only 85

pastel vault
#

"only" 🤔

urban storm
#

85? That’s a fuckton

#

Considering above 80 every point is >1tril

keen inlet
#

if you think about it AP is just a really slow catch-up mechanism/soft nerf

#

but it is really slow

#

so I can understand why some would say "no way"

dense quest
#

Its just extra damage so why not

keen inlet
#

but i can also understand why Notter would want to bully Flowi

urban storm
#

But you can get 66 which gives the entire second row the day you hit 110

#

Or very shortly thereafter

keen inlet
#

I find the slowdown is at 70

#

source: getting sub to 75 for luls

viscid helm
#

k im benched

urban storm
#

Yea once it’s above 100bil per point

keen inlet
#

Which I really don't see the point of

quick talon
#

@viscid helm how

keen inlet
#

you want to slam a brick wall of ap

quick talon
#

teach me daddy

keen inlet
#

do it at 75

rotund grove
#

i just keep putting the ap i get into sin and im at 80 right now. I just put whatever AP i get into it at the weapon.

viscid helm
#

took a lot of effort

quick talon
#

Did i tag the right flowi? @olive crow

viscid helm
#

i offered someone 100k

#

for bench

#

at first

rotund grove
#

but i was at 79 for like 3 weeks or so. and will probbaly be at 80 for a similar amount of time

viscid helm
#

and the only loot i got was transmog helmet 🙃

quick talon
#

but that didnt work right

viscid helm
#

i love raiding

#

apparently we are allowed to sell bench spots from next raid onwards

#

meaning

#

i can bench every week

#

even if i lose the roll

urban storm
#

Lol

#

Insane that ppl are paying to not raid

quick talon
#

Flex mythic raids when

warm parcel
#

Alt mythic when

viscid helm
#

never

lone junco
#

prob going to recruit a good rogue if i go heals next tier. so which one of you guys wants to be 3months behind on heroic content?

quick talon
#

I faked a power failure once

viscid helm
#

i've done that

keen inlet
#

mythic 15 when

#

also

#

I've faked power failure too

#

haha

quick talon
#

fucking glad blizzard finally added the "appear offline" thing in messanger

viscid helm
keen inlet
#

and faked "dog got out"

viscid helm
#

"shouldnt have let fucking flowi bench"

keen inlet
#

and uh

#

hmm

viscid helm
#

no one taking charges

#

on vari

urban storm
#

We were supposed to do imonar last night, but our resto shaman left raid/gquit, and we had other ppl out so we couldn’t continue

viscid helm
quick talon
#

weak playing his mage?

viscid helm
#

yes

quick talon
#

Cx

urban storm
#

Super low on healers atm :/

rotund grove
#

vari,kin and aggramar on "farm".

bench 👌

#

the first two are nightmares i don't want to think about the third one.

urban storm
#

Zero chance I’m gonna last raiding every week for six more months

shrewd notch
#

yeh burnout starting to set in

fervent beacon
#

I was fine until my friends started being hey wanna hang out and I'm like umm, might be able to if I get benched.

keen inlet
#

i swear

fervent beacon
#

Now I kind of don't want to raid for time being

keen inlet
#

I manipulated guild to move raid to nights that friends never want to do anything

shrewd notch
#

people fighting to be benched always confused me

keen inlet
#

as soon as I succeeded

shrewd notch
#

haha

keen inlet
#

friends constnatly

#

"hey want to X"

quick talon
#

Yea, when you wan to do those investigations in MHW

#

but have to raid

fervent beacon
#

@shrewd notch there are certain fights that I don't need loot for, so I get benched for it. Mostly eonar/inomar ATM.

shrewd notch
#

well for instance sometime's i'll ask for volunteers to sit out for a day, or for half the day, and then i'll get 5 whispers

#

like don't you people want to raid

keen inlet
#

they want loot and kills, not endless brick-walling progression after a certain point

#

if they already have loot from the farmed bosses and don't see the new boss dying anytime soon, yeah

#

I get it

#

burnout is real

shrewd notch
#

i guess. i never really cared about the loot myself, just the challenge

vernal adder
#

I like the loot

shrewd notch
#

loot's fun, but it's a means to an end for me

vernal adder
#

ofc its fun to kill a boss you been stuck on

vestal wren
#

brute forcing bosses seems to me not like a challange tho

viscid helm
#

where is my Amanthul

#

???

marble elm
#

Prog is fine it’s reclearing over and over when you aren’t going to get anything out of it

viscid helm
#

helo

quick talon
#

RL doesnt accept my gift

warm parcel
#

Ill have one

viscid helm
#

having fun yet

#

jesus christ

#

i have 40% crit + 24% from BB + 10% from dog and some from conc proc

#

and the crit value is still dumb

quick talon
#

I have 3x MoS traits

lone junco
#

crit over mastery for ep.

quick talon
#

0 shocklight

lone junco
#

yay

quick talon
#

😦

viscid helm
#

haste climbing nicely

warm parcel
#

Can you give me some rn

quick talon
#

yes

#

enjoy

viscid helm
vernal adder
#

bleach or haste?

warm parcel
#

Both do

restive inlet
#

About to start progress on Mythic Coven. any quick tips, apart from ditching the raid:)

#

?

lone junco
#

play warlock?

restive inlet
#

I have a Shadowpriest with good legendaries and 4p from normal:P might legit be better than my rogue lol

supple hearth
#

It's actually not bad at all as a rogue as long as the rest of your raid group isn't all melee.

#

You can cloak a ton of stuff

restive inlet
#

well, about that-.-

orchid cove
#

my guild did it with 9melees

#

its surely doable 😃

cerulean aspen
#

bully your raid into letting you stand in the middle between bosses during lightning adds

vernal adder
#

"disconnect"

quick talon
#

amanthul value pls

vernal adder
#

haste 51

lone junco
#

@quick talon 👌

#

fucking egg skillet. where did that come from

quick talon
#

that isnt even too low

#

wtf

lone junco
#

ive seen alac just 1.5% behind.

#

and other than uptime, impossible to mess up.

viscid helm
#

yeh i sim 2.2 rn

#

971ilvl

#

did u try to sim with EP @quick talon

quick talon
#

no not yet

#

will do after

lone junco
#

def nice with the higher crit.

warm parcel
#

You can add like 20-40k to alac sims

#

Depending

#

But its still behind tb no surprise

viscid helm
#

im running boots/bracer rn

#

i mean

#

it sims equal to my TB setup

#

rn

hoary copper
#

Flowi's talents sims 4% less than usual poison build

#

but my crit sucks

viscid helm
#

yeh i mean i have 40% crit / 26% haste / 150% mast and 15% vers

civic palm
#

👋

viscid helm
#

Amanthul would be pretty fucking nice upgrade

quick talon
#

try simming with amanthul

#

Flowi u running boots/bracer for that ?

#

or insig

viscid helm
#

boots/bracer

quick talon
#

aight

viscid helm
#

@quick talon

fervent beacon
#

is that poe?

unkempt star
#

Thinking of switching to my rogue for m+, I was wondering what's the best leggo combos for mythic plus and how they stack up in m+?

quick talon
#

yes, diusus

#

thats decent looking tbh

viscid helm
#

well its pure summoner now

#

since offering took 50% hit

civic palm
#

Oh hey Necro, figured Summoner really.

#

Dat middle node though, ❤

viscid helm
#

yeh invoker

#

think theres Sabo and inq left

#

if im not mistaken

#

and then scion will be last

quick talon
#

really curious about inq

#

big hopes

viscid helm
#

nerf that shit pls

quick talon
#

keep

#

buffing

viscid helm
#

it seems we actually found a raider

civic palm
#

INQ pen. nerf INC

viscid helm
#

idk inq pen has already become medicore

quick talon
#

Lappe

civic palm
#

Yeah

viscid helm
#

so many sources for pen

civic palm
#

Lots of other pen.

quick talon
#

Flowi u going SSF?

viscid helm
#

god no

civic palm
#

They might put it at the end of a branch that is not very interesting?

viscid helm
#

cba limiting myself to couple low tier builds

dense blaze
#

Every time I get a relic upgrade the weapon iLevel goes down

civic palm
#

item level doesn't really matter

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dense blaze
#

It's an ethics thing

civic palm
#

Yeah that's nice.

#

Wondering how trappy Sab. is going to be.

#

Considering the rest of the laser focus they have been applying I assume, mucho trappo.

viscid helm
#

never liked traps/mines

#

so dont really care to much about it

warm parcel
#

zzz rogue time

civic palm
#

Neither did I.

vestal wren
#

💤

civic palm
#

Makes me happy that there is an ASC. focused on it and that it's not in other places.

#

I wasn't expecting Trickster to be such a generalized ASC. though. Very cool that we get a "agility" tank though.

#

"tank"

viscid helm
#

trickster gonna get nerfed so hard

civic palm
#

Quite.

viscid helm
civic palm
#

Unless the math doesn't shake out the way people think.

viscid helm
#

i mean look at this

#

BV ele conversion

#

gonna destroy

civic palm
#

I mean you're not even looking at Escape Artist.... > _>

#

Add that to the fucking list, haha.

#

I DO LIKE...

#

that some of the ASC. are going to be removing the need for certain items.

quick talon
#

Deadeye tailwing tho

lone junco
#

looking for mass cleave. relatively fast farm, and medium to high personal defense. does summoner follow that? or a glass cannon hiding behind ads?

grim jay
#

what game are you even talking about

lone junco
#

Ive had a few good builds. all have been nerfed to shit.

#

poe

civic palm
#

Slayer fits that.

lone junco
#

I loved my freezing pulse. but rip

civic palm
#

2H DPS, relatively tanky.

grim jay
#

people really playing poe

#

😄

civic palm
#

People playing WoW?

#

😄

#

WTF kinda statement is that?

vestal wren
#

what is wow?

civic palm
#

Dunno.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

DedGame

grim jay
#

well poe is just button smashing

#

like diablo

civic palm
#

Ehhh...

#

not quite.

lone junco
#

I like butt smashing

civic palm
#

It's even less buttons in some cases.

grim jay
#

makes it worse

civic palm
#

You must not play Frost Mage.

#

In the best game ever made.

#

World of Warcraft

#

You must not play Assassination, the best Rogue spec.

#

In the best game ever made.

#

World of Warcraft.

#

There's dramatically more planning on PoE than some would expect.

grim jay
#

dunno I mean

#

it doesnt even look good

civic palm
#

ok

grim jay
#

lost ark looks ways better

civic palm
#

Like... graphically?

lone junco
#

everytime I think my guy is good. my friends are just stand and beast on a boss ,while im doing corpse runs

civic palm
#

Cause that game plays like ass.

grim jay
#

graphically and the animations in general

civic palm
#

Like a bad MMO.

vestal wren
#

there are good mmos? 👀

grim jay
#

your skills look like smth

civic palm
#

_ >

grim jay
#

😄

civic palm
#

If you think that skills in PoE don't look Unique and easily identifiable then this isn't going anywhere.

#

Because they are.

#

I... what...

fiery nest
#

???

civic palm
#

oookthen

#

Wrong Disco I think.

hollow apex
#

uneployment office hunting him down for being a slacker

civic palm
#

l o l

dusty palm
#

is great cloak of the dark pantheon even worth having as a sin rogue?

civic palm
dusty palm
#

thanks

civic palm
#

Because it's impossible to answer that question without seeing everything else about your character.

supple hearth
#

Can also look at top parses and see that most rogues are probably using tier cloak

cerulean aspen
#

everyone should have a greatcloak of the dark pantheon

supple hearth
#

Also >haste
@dusty palm
As mizerok said use sims but haste is generally your worst stat. I would probably avoid it

viscid helm
dark jackal
#

Is golganneth good for m+? 🤔

viscid helm
#

@civic palm

#

made a harness build

#

seems balanced

civic palm
#

Seems fine > _>"

#

heheh... heheheh... heh

#

Looks it's random... totally... not gonna proc a lot.

quick talon
#

1 book of kalandra

#

is like 30k ex on legacy still

#

damn

tranquil birch
#

You should activate your windows flowi

vapid moth
#

Lmfao wait

#

A monk named Might Guy

#

He won at life

terse rune
#

^hey i am new to assa and wondering if its normal that multilate only appears on the action bar when i am close enough to an enemy to use it?

lone junco
#

great question. do you not have mutilate on your stealth bar?

tranquil birch
lone junco
#

@vapid moth those are nicknames applied in Details by flowi.

vapid moth
#

He still wins at life >_>

viscid helm
#

its not

#

its legit name

lone junco
#

I want a space

vapid moth
#

See

tranquil birch
#

Unlike your windows

viscid helm
#

kappa

lone junco
#

zing

vapid moth
#

Btw I like the rainbow effect you had going on there too

viscid helm
#

#alacrity

#

man this argus is such a clown fiesta rn

lone junco
#

do you guys sell mythic argus yet? like carry for 1mg?

vapid moth
#

My guild should do that. Sadly we can’t even beat heroic argus

viscid helm
#

yeh we prob do

#

but only if you buy the mount

#

its not really worth otherwise

shrewd night
#

Ayy flowi

#

This new PoE shit, is that the same as I can find on steam?

#

Or is it some other shit?

civic palm
#

Yeah but don't use the Steam Client there's some wacky shit going on there from time to time.

#

Nothing naughty, but w/e.

lethal heart
#

@viscid helm wait

#

you stole my nickname from details

#

im the true wheelchair

viscid helm
#

pls

#

i've had wheelchair reserved since EN

lethal heart
#

monkaS

civic palm
#

Hey hey hey, we're all a little... physically handicapped.

lethal heart
#

i'm getting most nasty poison bombs procs

#

in my entire life

#

on argus mythic

#

and we're wiping

#

😦

#

i think every module i got like 2 psn bombs at least

civic palm
#

_ >

viscid helm
#

you switch to modules?

lethal heart
#

well why not?

#

dot it up

#

smacking

#

getting lucky psn bombs

viscid helm
#

not worth

lethal heart
#

tbf

viscid helm
#

it dies to fast for rupt to be worth

warm parcel
#

well

lethal heart
#

even if not worth dps wise

#

i'd rather kill the boss :p

warm parcel
#

when flowi has rage and you have fear

#

youre stuck at the module

lethal heart
#

we're waiting with moving the boss a little bit so we can cleave i guess

viscid helm
#

it was windeh btw

#

@warm parcel

#

who had nothing

#

but he just stood at boss

warm parcel
#

I know. I just dont really care

viscid helm
warm parcel
#

Winde padding and parsing green btw

civic palm
#

haha

viscid helm
#

horrible kill anyway

#

not that i care

warm parcel
quick talon
#

nice

lethal heart
#

thats surely only due to bad psn bombs proc

#

100%

viscid helm
#

ohh logs work

warm parcel
#

yeah negative pb

#

healed the boss

lethal heart
#

healing the boss

#

yea

#

😄

viscid helm
#

this is now

#

4th week in row?

#

i think

lethal heart
#

wow

#

someone is praying to rngesus

viscid helm
#

nahh

#

always been 6% PB

#

everytime

civic palm
#

hello discord... load the image please...

viscid helm
#

its just alacrity

civic palm
#

👍

lethal heart
#

i play s ub on aggramar because i believe

#

one day

#

i'm allowed to spam shuriken storm

#

like a madman

gaunt moat
#

it's only cause slow kill time, he gets lots of time in execution 😄

civic palm
#

lol

quick talon
#

flowi casually carrying whole memento on his back

viscid helm
#

i mean

#

was 2.6M like 2 weeks back

#

with 8% PB

#

🤷

calm grail
#

Anyone beneath 2m

#

DELETE THEM

gaunt moat
#

i still don't know if he is actually using alacrity or trolling

tranquil birch
#

Same

calm grail
#

🤔

warm parcel
#

we use alac

calm grail
#

What's troll about alacrity?

warm parcel
#

couldnt bother with anything else

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I mean its all visible on my stream 😏

quick talon
#

youre not streaming

#

are you ?

warm parcel
#

No shit cause raid ended 🤔

quick talon
#

O

tranquil birch
#

I really wish you'd just public log

gaunt moat
#

how is alacrity a benefit over TB though, when haste is not that impactful?
you get more DP procs so more energy or something?

tranquil birch
#

So i can see

quick talon
#

@civic palm Kurokami..

warm parcel
#

It doesnt

#

Its just lazy

#

😄

#

And more fun to play

quick talon
#

special snowflakes

calm grail
#

With alacrity you have enough energy to break everyone's CCs easier.

#

With poison dagger.

pastel vault
#

Oops I pb the embers kappa

lavish island
#

Hey I switched to assn for my guilds mythic agg kill and am wondering how I can optimize with cd and mantle usage better. Is mantle evenom burst the way to go and just using CDs on CD or what

quick talon
#

@civic palm kurokami

#

m8

#

@civic palm kurokami

#

IM FREE

celest mirage
#

how are glaives for sin since your only way to buff its damage is through shoulders? Not as good as sub but still good?

civic palm
#

Yeah never watched that.

#

hahaha

quick talon
#

the brother

#

i think

#

nvm

civic palm
#

hmmm, I think I've seen/read some other stuff from this manga author though

quick talon
#

im just glad im free now

#

and can rewatch

#

and finish this time

civic palm
#

Mmm yeah he did some of the art for Space Dandy, there it iiis.

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and the author also wrote Freezing, that makes sense.

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So hey if you like that kinda story look for anything else that author did as there's a chance it's been made into a show and is probably the same premise.

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whats so special about this anime

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He couldn't remember it.

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and did a poor job describing it.

quick talon
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how

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was that a poor job

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The phonecall was awkward tho

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Oh man the jargon...

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i hung up the second

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"Terra," a life-energy force split between three identical looking people

quick talon
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she said the anime name

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a global phenomenon dubbed the "Doppeliner System."

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uhhuh

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Kuro guards the "Coexistence Equilibrium,"