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Whelp, you only make that mistake once :3
haha yeah without doubt ^
Btw
~
Go be a dummy and lose one first.
Tom
๐
sup
We done for today, but Twisting Nether usually
TN EU ?
Just for you
We do it sometimes only, not regular runs daily
ahaha I saw that
yeah eu
josh is hilariously cringe
I feel like I could make a ton of money on my dead ass server group.
15's are a joke and I'm the highest M+ rogue ally.. >.>
eh
yea i'd pay afterwards

Well at least you don't fuck bad.
Unless...
_>
She is bringing papers for you to sign about how bad you are in bed.
Baby tom incoming maybe
@shrewd oriole pics or it didnt happen
There has been some ladies that have tried to claim... things... against their former partners/one night stands.
lets goooo
Usually only rich people though, so no worries.
Close enough for some people!
but I'm dont have money
Next date, we need a picture for the Discord.
Like a double awkward thumbs up for a bunch of internet weirdos.
this is why you don't let strangers into your personal life
haha
fuck y'all are weird
notter
heheheheh
put some pressure on him
did your sister enjoy it ?
Actual ModAbuse > _>
ehhh what?
brother*
w/e
_>
i am confused
Tom is going out with your trap brother according to legend
Hard to keep up with the lore
Yeah we need a Wiki entry for this.
Memes evolving each day
yeah i got it done on my monk finally this morning
such an awful grind
i can prob get revered from these on two characters tho
maybe
had to edit out the number lmao

i gotcha fam
there we go
lmao
there's some shit afterwards
but
I'd rather not show that 
does she know you killed argus
^
is this her
aight
Notter and his brother
back to NS_snapshot dps again
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7T3TeCeSTsUifA5dpVLAKf
you done goofed tom
lmaaaooo
she doesn't look israeli at all
are u better looking than her ex
It's the makeup
Tom can I just say
idk I think I'm more attractive, def better bod but he's taller so
and he has a porsche
You are what I want to become when I grow up
too late ive already found u on her friends list
lul
:Tom: when
my guild's server has me as an emote
fake af tbh
I'm pretty emote-able
lemme find the picture where I look like an extra from narcos 1 sec
she kinda reminds me of this
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1479/99/1479997672114.jpg
not even my funniest picture
your face says early 20s
WTF
meds made me fatten up a lot
you're so young
I'm like 14 in that picture
The only public picture of mine looks like an amateur cosplay for a DnD session.
ping nelbur
AND WE DONT MEAN COMBO POINTS
fixed 
Want some options on a DPS alt: which classes are least RNG reliant atm?
monk
Opinions*
Fury? I dunno.
no lol
Have any of you guys seen buzzfeed unsolved?
Shadow Priest.
yeah but they suck in anything that's not a raid
tru
monk and spriest probs have the least rng to it
Ww does look fun aswell
Ret pally
Yeah well.
Iwin just joined him
same
haha
rip peter
@pulsar hazel come back
@pulsar hazel :((((
we miss you peter
pussy
night dude
you know when i fell asleep
8:30pm ehhhh?
am
kek
๐ฆ yeah it was
Read up
Nice work.
Pk has you FOK on 4 still.
Guild dragging alts through Antorus and I am tooooootally not there > _>"
mize! ๐คฅ
Nope, no lying, not there, it's optional > _>
Just listening to this on repeat leveling an alt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6657PH9gQ
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Is there a propee rotation i should be using during antorus? I dunno if there is a set rotation or not. There are tons of pinned posts so idk what to click on ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I hecking love reading pins
is there a way to ensure concordence procs on pull
be lucky
monks have a way
BOONK GANG WHOLE LOTTA GANG SHIT
know what. ill look for a way
What way do monks have ????
spam ADADAD
You should follow the opener in the pinned guide
always envenom after vanish with mantle
except it would be an absolute perfect pandemic rupture which is seldom - never on opener
why? then i lose the ns buff on a 36 sec rupture?
because you don't play exsang obviously and math delivered higher numbers with envenom
bleh i thought iwas doing good >>
Read the guide, You must
Also your not playing good kingsbane phases
im not?
give me a sec it was only a quick look
nevermind it's okay-ish (: looked weird with the rupture after kingsbane
after opener...should i vanish rupture?
Monks have some sort of healing thing they do while the pull timer is going on
thought that was just opener
I legit got it from the monk discord so it's confirmed
nvm
Tf
ideally you don't drop any of the 3 buffs/debuffs while kingsbane
looks like i did good with surge of toxins...
are you playing with anti or deeper?
I know
iv just been running deeper/vigor
try to work around cooldowns with rupture at ~7s with 4+ CP
if you avoid rupturing during kingsbane or toxic blade you will get more poison output
I know sometimes it's shite
Okay
I'm troubled by it myself ๐ and there are ppl who can give more tipps than me here for sure
any one here? xDDD
I'm getting 70-85% parses in most fights in heroic antorus...except I got a gray Imonar parse - what is the secret?!
poisonbomb
I mean I think I got a decent overall parse, but ilvl was 20%
I wasn't joking
Seriously? It's cuz I got no poison bombs that I got a 20% parse?
maybe
if you have 20% poisonbomb damage in that parse, you did terrible with rotation
(example number)
I mean it's also largely group dependent
Like how long it takes to get across the bridge and stuff
epic+ logs are just, fast fights + lucky rng
Well I think imonar would be better as a longer fight
you even can do a few stupid mistakes in your rotation
Shorter time crossing the bridge+more time on boss
Then you have a higher relative uptime
I mean vari is like the true test
try to be more lucky with the group and proccs then 
Cause there's no mechanics, it's straight patchwork
It's just who plays it better and gets lucky with pb
79/69 ilvl - I didn't line up my toxic blade perfectly every time but I did...okay
did my sim dmb
dmg*
that's why I like sub more 
I would probably too, but I parse worse at Sub... Idk why.. .something I must be missing fundamentally
what do you mean "line up toxic blade" ?
you don't delay it except you can cover the last 8s of kingsbane - like, don't delay it for more than a few seconds
Sub is punishing, it requires a lot more effort to be effective and gets cucked by mechanics easier
But it also done have pb variance
yeah, when you suck there is no spell that carries your log
Toxic blade and Kingsbane almost always come up right around the same time for me... so I just use kingsbane and wait for 8 seconds left....no?
first off
no
you hold tb for a max of like
4s
if that 4s buffer doesn't land around the 8s mark of KB
Tb before usually too, cause kingabane does initial damage
smash that bitch on cooldown
shouldn't be the case like ever, depending on your relics you also may vendetta into vanish into kingsbane
! Thanks!
Nerds
Sometimes my energy number is off center
triggers the shit out of me
relog fixes it though, for some reason
Should boots sim higher than wrists?
So both might be bis?
yeah
Good to know. Cause the only leggos im missing atm is both wrists and boots :D
I think it really depends on fight length
and that boots are better over longer single target fights
but both set ups are competitive as best
trust the sims tbh ๐
how about dungeon environment? bracers better?
yeah
cause you can't vendetta adds
they die too fast
and bracers are usually the BiS
msot people run a combination of bracers/boots or mantle/bracers for raid
mantle/bracers is usally the better one for dungeons
thank you
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Why should we use toxic blade at 8 sec left on kingsbane instead of 9 sec?
And use tb on cd
nah, people just can't read
been saying 9 forever, not sure where this 8 came from
tick times maybe
idk
i assume it has something to do with tick times
and/or people are just being careful
idk
i think it's about time i make my triumphant return to rogue
I just use on CD who cares 
gotta get that parse yo
PBonCD
waiting for last 8s is not even the best way
Parse Bomb
if you wait too much youre gonna lose a cast
not waiting forever, just like 2 or 3 sec
Id rather just tb + envenom to keep 4p uptime high
rather than waiting
Playing around last 8s can cuck you sometimes
what ilvl you guys recommend for a 20 key
less ilevel, more dps
haven't played rogue since NH
muscle memory still trying to garrote 3x on cleave while running NS

With shadow singed fang, do you hold any cds until it procs?
Never Ever hold your CD for any trinket proc tbh
so it's not worth holding like 5s to get 7k agi for big cds?
Should be other way arround
Don't play smart ass, I said for ANY trinket
and you also said proc
so not even hold vanish for it then? hold nothing?
and you wouldn't hold both?
bad day?
short of patience when i'm asked the same question 3 times
Has anyone got an opener for boots / bracers as the pins don't have any , thanks
im pretty sure its same as with mantle
but without mantle
assuming you play subterfuge
just vanish usage is different
there most definitely is one in the pins too lol
That's with subterfuge not NS though
I've been using the shoulder opener but replacing vanish/ envenom with vanish/ rupture, I'm assuming that's right lol
So without mantle (Iโm using boots ring) what is optimal to spend vanish on?
Lol
no mantle + ns = rupture
Ya
Broadsides is going to have a breakdown today
gratz, you earned it
Go back to telling people about vanish>rupture

nah that's a lie, killed invasion boss with 0
Lul
forgot how cheesy world content is with 100% crit 
had krosus pulls like that back last time i raided on rog
Gotta save them for the important bosses
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it also has agility...not my point also it was a joke


how much crit do u guys think is confortable for bracer/boots build?
to keep envenon 70%+ , dont feel so slow the rotation ( double mut all time )
i got a 965 neck from dogs, cant use, i lose 7% crit ( 39->32% ) using eoa 940 socked .-.
5k dps diference
i dont have any bb relics, and to replace i need 2 with bis traits ( bb,shocklight,malch)
i have 60% crit and additional 10% from dog trinket and i can basically have 100% env and 2 pc uptime
smoothest gameplay you're ever gonna see
- BB
sad life, got 980 dogs boots yesterday, cant use on argus prog
@viscid helm how much do u simc?
970 is above avg
need amanthuls
also Alacrity APL is poop
@viscid helm i can look into it if you give me details on what to change
afaik it has really bad uptimes, someone was looking at it earlier
80% on 2pc someone said etc, i havent even had time to look at it myself
prob should this weekend
alacrity on simc , only show 50k max, down from tb build, i think this is pretty good
87.21% uptime on virulent_poisons @_@ what ??? something is wrong
depends on the sample size
I mean
Flowi raids mythic
Yeah itโs above average for people doing like 5/9 + heroic
But
Iโm elitist
Kappa
Probably low compared to his guildies
Pretty low for a dps id say
our healers are 980
Exactly lol
can't slow adds on aggramar because corruption kills them
Got two 945 pieces
I'm on 973 as well
Finally done with progress tho
but 973 shitgear
Which means Iโll finally get gear next week bby
probably would sim like 100k more with 970 and good pieces
How much do you sim
not even 2,1 mil
I have 22% crit
Lmao
I play poison build with mantle and bracers
Top3 relics btw
and crit is my top stat
like the t1 and t3
i think that says it all
Crit was my highest too
3x MA 2x BB 1xMalch
At a certain point
I have like perfect sub gear
When I had like 230% mastery and 20% crit
Yeah well
Managed to get a few upgrades, drop some versa
I passed on 985 fel relic from argus ๐ฆ
yeh im actually dumb
pretty sure i have been coining argus 2x now as Sin
when all sin relics are trash
Lul
I didnโt even bother coining it
Shit assa geae
Kingaroth is where it is at
Yโall started alt mythic runs yet?
Fair
Our alts are p much all 965+ so I reckon weโre gonna do the same for a month then start alt clears
It would be super tight on the mount otherwise tbh
26 mounts or something
But that would mean 0 sales p much
We have like a 25 man roster
Thatโs assuming mjmm mood m je
Thats assuming we raid summer too
and that assumes you rekill argus every week
yeh were gonna take a summer break as well AND POE BREAK
Always nice to buy some boes at launch
my guild hadn't recleared for 5 weeks

8 hours for aggramar and argus
I reckon we do 10/11 in 2 and a half hours
yeh
Wanna level together?
Hey guys been away from the games since NH hows assassination in M+
Itโs good in upper Kara, pretty meh in everything else
exalts are like 25โฌ in the start
Sounds like fun to rely on proccs
Doesnt really matter unless you are pushing high keys
If your gear is shit then low keys are high keys
15-18 is fine as sin
Your gear or you of course
I mean anything is fine in 15-18
Plus the lower the key the worse assa is
but as sin you dont get to do anything on that level
which isnt fun
So that argument is really fallible
I just started playing league again
Just play sub
sucks to suck
I've played 4 games so far and laned against yasuo in 3 of them
Nice.
Classic
and in the 4th one i laned against garen
also I pick mid first top second and i was top in 3 games
seems like many people play top nowadays
What? you mean BFA?
Nah poe
ohh
lol
yeh its pretty class gannon
immune to ref and perma 20ms tho
tbh i'm just waiting for Elementalist
got high hopes
Ye
cos its been trash since ignite removal
Iโm waiting for necro
nerf spectres
have u guys seen this
Showcase of all projectile spells with 6 totems, loads of cast speed and additional projectiles. Volley Edition Livestream: https://www.twitch.tv/shinrha A...
Yeah
True
Tbh no ascendancy has been nerfed so I think itโd be pretty bad of the only nerfed one is necro
So u can have 6 totems now?
always been able to

chaos mmm
at least wait for the trickster/occult reworks
need to wait for deadeye release to see what can be done with shield throw
everyone be ready to snipe shields
idiots not gonna know the value
cos they have never had any
When ur girl tells you "The hate on her is taking control over me" - you know you dont meet that other girl this evening LOL
Fuck it
Im just gonna
her fangs and vanish outta the house lol
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haha nice man
Okay guys
Quick question, what do u think
940 relic: Toxic Blades (Env Dmg) + Guishing Wounds (Rupture dmg)
or
965 relic: Serrated Edge (Rupt crit chance) + MaAlch
sim it
How do I actually sim crucibles?
Raidbots
got it ๐
Wait a second, is Balanced Blades actually better than MA and MaAlch?
asking because it seems like raidbots ranked best to worst in the options to pick?
shit long queue we got there lol
thats the outcome
I guess.. hey, 15k is 15k ๐
You did it ๐
HOLY SHIT its 15.826!
does any 1 kno why weak auras are randomly disapearing
all my weak auras disapeared
that i had saved for all my toons
Happens sometimes
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17610962109 read this @honest needle otherwise they are most likely gone
Hello. So, i downloaded the new patch today and all my weakauras are gone. I was using auras for my lock, monk, priest, rogue, ive spent infinite hours writing them and making them suit my UI and now they are all gone. Pls help. I dont know what to do. I tried to update addons via curse client but i receive the message "installation failed". Im not willing to create them from the very beginning, it will take me a ton of hours and im also not willing to download new ones from mmo, i want mine!! I spent time and energy to build them, i demand to have them back.
Or just start making back ups if you deem them that important as the thread creator
is worth for m+?
hey guys new to sin after my opener i just apply vandetta when off cd and combine kingsbane with envenom and exsang just when off cd its not like i try to align these 3 after my opener right?
@pulsar turtle check the guide linked in the header or pins
yea i did thats why i ask
i'd not recommend playing exsang if you're new to sin
okay and why do you guys think that?
why would you ever take exsang when Alacrity is just superior?
don't troll him flowi
Toxic blade is much better
Im not?
no
most people have Alacrity simming like 1-2% behind TB
with 80% uptime APL
@pulsar turtle exsang usually underperforms, and it's harder to play it correctly (you would need to have 7/7 Master assassin relics as well to align it with vendetta, to answer your previous question)
mh yea i just sim'ed myself and tb is 0,1% stronger yesterday when i first specced into this exsang was like 6% stronger
way harder to get the rest of the gear for it as well
for me the harder part in exsang is reacting to the CPs you get to know when to rupture at lower CP
just started playing wow 3 weeks ago or so and im testing out all 3 speccs of rogue to get a feeling which one i really wanna commit to started with outlaw then sub which i did the last week and now im testing sin
then i'd start with a simpler talent build
Well it's not harder, you just dont get as many items for it in the current raid
which actually makes it harder to gear for
per definition
Spec wise, assasin is easier to play with over sub
Better off going assasin cuz you can always switch over to sub once you are doing normal and heroic runs on a regular bases
okay so now i got another question vendetta is one a 45sec cd toxic blades on 25 its okay to delay toxic blades to get vendetta in but vice verse is it ok delaying vendetta for toxic blades?
I went the other way around I was sub and switched to assasin. Lol I am screwing up my DFB with shadow dance which was screening over my dps
Vendetta 45 seconds cd?
It is ideal to synchronize Toxic Blade Icon Toxic Blade usage with the last 9 seconds of Kingsbane Icon Kingsbane, as it ticks the strongest during that time,
Also you can find that information in the guide
Wanna use it with kingsbane
yeah but thats not gonna happen every time
kk so its okay to delay kb or tb but only for a short period of time
You dont wanna delay kb
But as i said, everything is in the guide
you should read it first and then confirm if you still have questions
thats what i just did tbh
No more then 4sec
yea i asked the other way around tho if its okay to delay kingsbane when toxic blade is coming up soon
cuz its okay if i do that with toxic blade
yea at one time but when i have 45 sec cd on kb and 25 on tb it will shift to where you have either tb but not kb and the other way around after the opener
like some time in the fight
45 Second cooldown on kb? Are you playing without any poison ?
oh shit omg
Did you read your abilities?
yea its hard to remember everything im sry guys
Try to read everything and get used to all the abilities first
it will clear up many questions
yea thanks guys... and sry
You don't need to apologize to us, its not us having the problems because of that ๐
sry ๐ฆ
yeah sorry ):


I still dont have nitro
git gud
I just died #11 with no weapon in pubg
I remember my first time in League
picks Ashe and proceed to just use the E
get reported
uninstall asap
sim
goooood morning ravenholdt
Anyone that has a /say WA for whenever pb procs
I used to have one, but asked myself, why do I need it.
@pulsar turtle you learned. It's fine
Not like tanks are gonna stop moving the mobs out of your pb
also the spam is obnoxious
I use it with my guildie tank
Made a WA that shows up on his screen in m+
And one for me in stealth so he doesnt pull bosses too quick ๐
I have a say WA for every 1 energy tick I gain
Can you share it?
@quick talon what exactly should poisons do to kb cd?!

"45 Second cooldown on kb? Are you playing without any poison ?"
?!
lol
ok
im gonna kill myself hahahaha xD
Holy crap im to fkn tired for this world rn
I'm also super tired and lazy today
Do you know the feelin when ur eyes are dry and feel "corny"?
Like totally red and fucked up aswell?
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8s mark?
sounds awful
Such a long delay
why not cover last KB ticks if you don't delay it to long
ugh
at least I thought it's a thing
I mean 5 is aiight. Not 8 lol
can someone tell me what is reducing my cd on kingsbane ?
i just had 25sec on KB & TB
but KB got up earlier
spending cps
so only using cp's?
Sinister Circulation, golden trait in your weapon

Your poisons
[insert correct answer]
@stone sandal why were you shocked by the do you have your poisons on point, you know thats correct right ?
tom, did you stick it in her?
Howd the date go fam?
P good
@prime void ya im just too damn tired .. didnt even recognized that we have a trait for that
Iโm like 7 glasses of sangria in right now but it was great, she wanted to meet again next week
Yeah just go
did you get to drop your poison load on her?
Pancakes?
She cutey?
Yeah I went over to hers
Nice
Her apartment was so nice dude
she wants to cook vegan food for Tom
^
how much does the rotation change if i use DS over Vigor?

But hows the syphillis?
even if it sims higher?
Are you bleed?
Yes
no
Am syphillis
im poison
Just play vigor
god damn master, you confused me rn
Stphilis is great dude
Why tho?
Did you wiggle your sausage in her salad bowl
I ate her veggies dude
Ate out that peach
Ufff
Or normal
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I read on mmo that with t21 you use 3x fok, ignore the CP overflow and then envom in aoe situations, is that true?
what
I tried it and due to the energy gain you wont go ooe, not sure tho if thats the best way
maybe it's meta and we're all wrong
I dont understand anything
Yo guys, I have 174%mastery and 23%crit, can you tell me whats the crit cap, do I need to push crit litte bit higher ?
yes
Oki, so whats the optimal mastery %
no
when versatility sims higher than mastery and crit
you should probably get some versa
got 10% versa
does it sim higher than mast and crit though?
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Mastery all the way for me. Even at 24% crit (blergh) mastery sims higher for me at least
Happens
24% crit 
I have 212%
crit is like a little bit below mast tho
playing sub for so long has left me very versatility-heavy-.-
yeah but there are no mast only items that high
so you want high mast low crit
most of the time
I honestly dont know how you guys can play like that
I cry every time my mutilate doesnt crit
5% hast omegalul
so, its good idea to get at least 25% crit ?
I have a good shadow singed fang at least, 965
@spare cloud thx bro
Yeah need mast crit
thats why i told you to sim
stop the feelycraft
wat
just get 45 crit and play eptb
22/215 is a good example of how stat weights can be weird.
Are you saying that my rogue is weird?
stat weights are the next 1300 stat. based on your current profile. It is absolutely not telling you the best stat distribution.
But is there even a best stat distribution
i mean, yes.
assuming all items 985 there is a actually "best in slot"
not bis. just an ideal crit/mastery/vers balance
yeah that's why I "" it
Yeah
depends on oranges, so there is not 1 answer, if you have shoulders, it suppresses crit a lot.
but everyone jerks to shoulderbomb luck, so they are "better"
Its not luck if you pray correctly
Good day fellow assassins.
I wanted to buy my sin rogue one of those JC crafted helmets. I'm at 39.04% crit, and sim tells me that right now Versatility is better than Crit (28.16 Vers / 27.03 Crit).
So I wanted to ask you if I should buy a Mastery/Versatility head? or stick to Crit/Mastery like most guides say?








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