#assassination

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kindred cedar
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./ignore was my response lol

civic palm
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Whelp, you only make that mistake once :3

kindred cedar
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haha yeah without doubt ^

quick talon
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What server u boosting on

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I might buy one

shrewd oriole
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I'll sell you one

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pleb

shrewd night
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Btw

quick talon
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~

civic palm
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Go be a dummy and lose one first.

shrewd night
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Tom

civic palm
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๐Ÿ˜›

shrewd oriole
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sup

kindred cedar
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We done for today, but Twisting Nether usually

shrewd night
quick talon
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TN EU ?

shrewd night
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Just for you

kindred cedar
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We do it sometimes only, not regular runs daily

shrewd oriole
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ahaha I saw that

kindred cedar
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yeah eu

shrewd oriole
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josh is hilariously cringe

void pecan
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I feel like I could make a ton of money on my dead ass server group.

quick talon
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Everytime

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Im really curious

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if Josh is just trolling

void pecan
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15's are a joke and I'm the highest M+ rogue ally.. >.>

quick talon
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eh

viscid helm
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buy one

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wtf

quick talon
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yea i'd pay afterwards

viscid helm
shrewd oriole
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she wants to meet again

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next week

civic palm
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Well at least you don't fuck bad.

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Unless...

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_>

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She is bringing papers for you to sign about how bad you are in bed.

quick talon
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Baby tom incoming maybe

supple hearth
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@shrewd oriole pics or it didnt happen

civic palm
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There has been some ladies that have tried to claim... things... against their former partners/one night stands.

shrewd oriole
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uhh

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I got some messenger screenies I guess

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lol

quick talon
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lets goooo

supple hearth
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!!!

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ye

civic palm
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Usually only rich people though, so no worries.

shrewd oriole
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yeah I'm not rich

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my mom is

civic palm
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Close enough for some people!

shrewd oriole
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but I'm dont have money

quick talon
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enough money talk

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pics when

civic palm
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Next date, we need a picture for the Discord.

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Like a double awkward thumbs up for a bunch of internet weirdos.

supple hearth
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what are you saying next date

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THIS date

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he has pics

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posttttt

gilded lark
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this is why you don't let strangers into your personal life

civic palm
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haha

gilded lark
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fuck y'all are weird

gaunt moat
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giggle i think you meant to say

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pics or ban

quick talon
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notter

civic palm
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heheheheh

gaunt moat
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put some pressure on him

quick talon
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did your sister enjoy it ?

civic palm
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Actual ModAbuse > _>

gaunt moat
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ehhh what?

supple hearth
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brother*

quick talon
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w/e

civic palm
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   _>
quick talon
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Legend says

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it was your sister, notter

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former brother

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put on a wig

gaunt moat
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i am confused

civic palm
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Ditto.

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Though not as much as you I imagine.

supple hearth
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Tom is going out with your trap brother according to legend

gaunt moat
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Hard to keep up with the lore

civic palm
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Yeah we need a Wiki entry for this.

quick talon
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Memes evolving each day

shrewd oriole
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ok pc turned on

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imma take screenies

supple hearth
civic palm
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Hawt

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Gotta get that... Balance of Power... done.

supple hearth
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yeah i got it done on my monk finally this morning

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such an awful grind

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i can prob get revered from these on two characters tho

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maybe

shrewd oriole
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had to edit out the number lmao

gilded lark
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But not the name

shrewd oriole
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oh shit

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monkaS

gilded lark
quick talon
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i gotcha fam

shrewd oriole
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there we go

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lmao

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there's some shit afterwards

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but

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I'd rather not show that tyler1Monk

gaunt moat
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does she know you killed argus

safe matrix
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^

quick talon
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is this her

shrewd oriole
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titanslayertom

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delete that lmao

quick talon
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aight

supple hearth
warm geode
gilded lark
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you done goofed tom

quick talon
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lmaaaooo

shrewd oriole
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lmao

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that's her ex

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AHAH

gaunt moat
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she doesn't look israeli at all

supple hearth
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are u better looking than her ex

gilded lark
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It's the makeup

shrewd oriole
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she's only half too

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dont think she's ever lived there

safe matrix
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Tom can I just say

shrewd oriole
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idk I think I'm more attractive, def better bod but he's taller so

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and he has a porsche

safe matrix
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You are what I want to become when I grow up

shrewd oriole
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dont go stalk her facebook tho guys you're gonna make me look like josh

supple hearth
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too late ive already found u on her friends list

safe matrix
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lul

gilded lark
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:Tom: when

shrewd oriole
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my guild's server has me as an emote

quick talon
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fake af tbh

shrewd oriole
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I'm pretty emote-able

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lemme find the picture where I look like an extra from narcos 1 sec

gaunt moat
civic palm
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lol

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gg

quick talon
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๐Ÿค”

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your body says mid 40

shrewd oriole
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not even my funniest picture

quick talon
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your face says early 20s

shrewd oriole
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yeah man

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I was fat af at that time LOL

safe matrix
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How old are you tom

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26?

shrewd oriole
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I had some serious health condition and had to take meds

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nah, 20

safe matrix
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WTF

shrewd oriole
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meds made me fatten up a lot

safe matrix
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you're so young

shrewd oriole
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I'm like 14 in that picture

civic palm
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The only public picture of mine looks like an amateur cosplay for a DnD session.

safe matrix
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Mods

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Lewd

shrewd oriole
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ping nelbur

civic palm
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CP

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Get that shit outta heeeerrreeee :3

safe matrix
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AND WE DONT MEAN COMBO POINTS

shrewd oriole
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fixed fraggyKappa

civic palm
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Ya never know

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

shrewd oriole
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did you see the crocs tho

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

civic palm
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120%

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๐Ÿ‘

ripe dock
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Want some options on a DPS alt: which classes are least RNG reliant atm?

shrewd oriole
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monk

ripe dock
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Opinions*

civic palm
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Fury? I dunno.

shrewd oriole
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no lol

safe matrix
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Have any of you guys seen buzzfeed unsolved?

civic palm
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Shadow Priest.

shrewd oriole
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yeah but they suck in anything that's not a raid

civic palm
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tru

shrewd oriole
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monk and spriest probs have the least rng to it

ripe dock
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Ww does look fun aswell

civic palm
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Ret pally

shrewd oriole
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ret pally is trash to play tho

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lol

civic palm
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Yeah well.

shrewd oriole
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:p

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fucking peter just chillin there dude

safe matrix
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Iwin just joined him

shrewd oriole
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same

quick talon
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i cant hear

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shit

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fuck

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he left

civic palm
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haha

shrewd oriole
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rip peter

quick talon
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@pulsar hazel come back

gilded lark
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@pulsar hazel :((((

shrewd oriole
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we miss you peter

quick talon
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Aight

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its time to go to bed

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fucking

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3 am

gilded lark
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pussy

shrewd oriole
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night dude

gilded lark
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you know when i fell asleep

gilded lark
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fucking

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830

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lol

civic palm
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8:30pm ehhhh?

gilded lark
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am

civic palm
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Was wondering where those emotes were going.

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There it is.

shrewd oriole
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kek

dire spoke
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Tom is typing here

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date wasn't gud

shrewd oriole
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ yeah it was

dire spoke
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where is the girl then

shrewd oriole
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Read up

dire spoke
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so much to read NotLikeThis

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@shrewd oriole put a ring on that human

rose dome
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Finally.

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๐Ÿ˜„

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925 hurts... but... still sims higher than 940s I've got.

lone junco
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Nice work.

dire spoke
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that's nothing

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wanna see what really hurts

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940>985

lone junco
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That pk.

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Rip

dire spoke
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It's actually only 0.5% below

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but

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I would ditch 3MAss

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for poop

lone junco
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Pk has you FOK on 4 still.

dire spoke
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what are you trying to tell me

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that I should ditch Vendetta alignment for FoK

lone junco
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No. Just saying the apl isn't the same with pk.

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I like 3vend.

dire spoke
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oh key

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I put the relic in outlul

civic palm
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Guild dragging alts through Antorus and I am tooooootally not there > _>"

dire spoke
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mize! ๐Ÿคฅ

civic palm
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Nope, no lying, not there, it's optional > _>

dire spoke
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whew

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didn't log on PUBG for two month now

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they did quite a change on it

drowsy prism
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Is there a propee rotation i should be using during antorus? I dunno if there is a set rotation or not. There are tons of pinned posts so idk what to click on ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

tacit ferry
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try the guide

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it has antorus tips in it as well

gilded lark
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why not all the pinned posts

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and do some reading

supple hearth
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I hecking love reading pins

vapid moth
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is there a way to ensure concordence procs on pull

cerulean aspen
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be lucky

vapid moth
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monks have a way

nimble tartan
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BOONK GANG WHOLE LOTTA GANG SHIT

vapid moth
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know what. ill look for a way

prime void
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What way do monks have ????

dire spoke
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spam ADADAD

open arrow
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someone mind looking those over?

dire spoke
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You should follow the opener in the pinned guide

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always envenom after vanish with mantle

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except it would be an absolute perfect pandemic rupture which is seldom - never on opener

open arrow
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why? then i lose the ns buff on a 36 sec rupture?

dire spoke
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because you don't play exsang obviously and math delivered higher numbers with envenom

open arrow
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bleh i thought iwas doing good >>

open reef
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Read the guide, You must

dire spoke
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Also your not playing good kingsbane phases

open arrow
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im not?

dire spoke
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give me a sec it was only a quick look

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nevermind it's okay-ish (: looked weird with the rupture after kingsbane

open arrow
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after opener...should i vanish rupture?

vapid moth
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Monks have some sort of healing thing they do while the pull timer is going on

dire spoke
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I just told you not to

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๐Ÿค”

open arrow
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thought that was just opener

vapid moth
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I legit got it from the monk discord so it's confirmed

open arrow
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nvm

vapid moth
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Tf

dire spoke
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ideally you don't drop any of the 3 buffs/debuffs while kingsbane

open arrow
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looks like i did good with surge of toxins...

dire spoke
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are you playing with anti or deeper?

open arrow
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deeper

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i have class ring as my other lego

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the vigor one

dire spoke
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I know

open arrow
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iv just been running deeper/vigor

open arrow
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i generally refrest at like 5 sec left

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or around that

dire spoke
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try to work around cooldowns with rupture at ~7s with 4+ CP

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if you avoid rupturing during kingsbane or toxic blade you will get more poison output

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I know sometimes it's shite

open arrow
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Okay

dire spoke
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I'm troubled by it myself ๐Ÿ˜„ and there are ppl who can give more tipps than me here for sure

strange python
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any one here? xDDD

dusty quest
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I'm getting 70-85% parses in most fights in heroic antorus...except I got a gray Imonar parse - what is the secret?!

dire spoke
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poisonbomb

dusty quest
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I mean I think I got a decent overall parse, but ilvl was 20%

dire spoke
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I wasn't joking

dusty quest
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Seriously? It's cuz I got no poison bombs that I got a 20% parse?

dire spoke
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maybe

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if you have 20% poisonbomb damage in that parse, you did terrible with rotation

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(example number)

safe matrix
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I mean it's also largely group dependent

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Like how long it takes to get across the bridge and stuff

dusty quest
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2.28%

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Takes us wayyyy too long imo

dire spoke
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epic+ logs are just, fast fights + lucky rng

safe matrix
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Well I think imonar would be better as a longer fight

dire spoke
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you even can do a few stupid mistakes in your rotation

safe matrix
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Shorter time crossing the bridge+more time on boss

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Then you have a higher relative uptime

dusty quest
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I think I'm doing weell

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well*

safe matrix
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I mean vari is like the true test

dire spoke
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try to be more lucky with the group and proccs then LUL

safe matrix
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Cause there's no mechanics, it's straight patchwork

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It's just who plays it better and gets lucky with pb

dusty quest
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79/69 ilvl - I didn't line up my toxic blade perfectly every time but I did...okay

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did my sim dmb

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dmg*

safe matrix
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Like this is the highest parse on heroic varimathras

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Look at that pb

dire spoke
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that's why I like sub more autism

dusty quest
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I would probably too, but I parse worse at Sub... Idk why.. .something I must be missing fundamentally

dire spoke
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what do you mean "line up toxic blade" ?
you don't delay it except you can cover the last 8s of kingsbane - like, don't delay it for more than a few seconds

safe matrix
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Sub is punishing, it requires a lot more effort to be effective and gets cucked by mechanics easier

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But it also done have pb variance

dire spoke
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yeah, when you suck there is no spell that carries your log

dusty quest
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Toxic blade and Kingsbane almost always come up right around the same time for me... so I just use kingsbane and wait for 8 seconds left....no?

gilded lark
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first off

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no

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you hold tb for a max of like

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4s

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if that 4s buffer doesn't land around the 8s mark of KB

safe matrix
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Tb before usually too, cause kingabane does initial damage

gilded lark
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smash that bitch on cooldown

dusty quest
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Okie dokie

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Any holding Kingsbane or Vendetta ata ll?

dire spoke
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shouldn't be the case like ever, depending on your relics you also may vendetta into vanish into kingsbane

dusty quest
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! Thanks!

dire spoke
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I don't know much about weird timings to be honest

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always had 3MAss

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:x

dusty quest
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I have +1 hah that's it

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+3 Alchemist tho

dire spoke
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then you should have a good alignment actually

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it's the 2 that sucks a bit

dusty quest
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yeah I udnerstand 2 is not worth havign

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a

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only 1 and 3

dire spoke
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I just realized my 8s marker isn't on the right spot in my WAs

quick talon
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Nerds

spare cloud
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Sometimes my energy number is off center

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triggers the shit out of me

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relog fixes it though, for some reason

tame cobalt
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Should boots sim higher than wrists?

safe matrix
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depends

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it goes either way really ๐Ÿคท

tame cobalt
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So both might be bis?

safe matrix
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yeah

tame cobalt
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Good to know. Cause the only leggos im missing atm is both wrists and boots :D

safe matrix
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I think it really depends on fight length

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and that boots are better over longer single target fights

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but both set ups are competitive as best

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trust the sims tbh ๐Ÿ˜‰

tame cobalt
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how about dungeon environment? bracers better?

safe matrix
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yeah

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cause you can't vendetta adds

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they die too fast

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and bracers are usually the BiS

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msot people run a combination of bracers/boots or mantle/bracers for raid
mantle/bracers is usally the better one for dungeons

tame cobalt
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thank you

gilded lark
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๐Ÿ‘€

safe matrix
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over a 4 minute vari fight

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I got one poison bomb

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I feel cucked

gilded lark
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you are cucked

safe matrix
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I was wondering why my parse was so low

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.<

wary plinth
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Why should we use toxic blade at 8 sec left on kingsbane instead of 9 sec?

safe matrix
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because kingsbane ramps up

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so the last 8 seconds hit the hardest

strange python
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And use tb on cd

gilded lark
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been saying 9 forever, not sure where this 8 came from

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tick times maybe

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idk

wary plinth
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yeah thats what im saying lol

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it lasts for 9 sec so why not use the entire 9 sec?

gilded lark
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i assume it has something to do with tick times

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and/or people are just being careful

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idk

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i think it's about time i make my triumphant return to rogue

cold spoke
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I just use on CD who cares LUL

wary plinth
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gotta get that parse yo

gilded lark
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PBonCD

cold spoke
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waiting for last 8s is not even the best way

gilded lark
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Parse Bomb

cold spoke
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if you wait too much youre gonna lose a cast

gilded lark
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the dps loss doing it is actually only a few thousand

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but

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it's still a loss

wary plinth
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not waiting forever, just like 2 or 3 sec

cold spoke
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Id rather just tb + envenom to keep 4p uptime high

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rather than waiting

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Playing around last 8s can cuck you sometimes

prisma wind
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what ilvl you guys recommend for a 20 key

gilded lark
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less ilevel, more dps

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haven't played rogue since NH

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muscle memory still trying to garrote 3x on cleave while running NS

kind spade
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With shadow singed fang, do you hold any cds until it procs?

gilded lark
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no

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it's uptime is like 60%

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why hold lol

kindred forge
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Never Ever hold your CD for any trinket proc tbh

kind spade
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so it's not worth holding like 5s to get 7k agi for big cds?

gilded lark
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but what if that time it's unlucky

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and you don't proc anything for 20s

kindred forge
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Should be other way arround

gilded lark
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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you can't hold ssf lol

kindred forge
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Don't play smart ass, I said for ANY trinket

gilded lark
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and you also said proc

kind spade
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so not even hold vanish for it then? hold nothing?

gilded lark
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you hold vanish for like

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vend

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but not a trinket

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esp a proc based one

kind spade
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and you wouldn't hold both?

gilded lark
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no

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how many fucking times

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do i have to say this

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NO

kind spade
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bad day?

gilded lark
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short of patience when i'm asked the same question 3 times

fathom elm
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Has anyone got an opener for boots / bracers as the pins don't have any , thanks

cold spoke
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im pretty sure its same as with mantle

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but without mantle

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assuming you play subterfuge

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just vanish usage is different

gilded lark
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there most definitely is one in the pins too lol

fathom elm
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That's with subterfuge not NS though

gilded lark
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so what do you think you'd change

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with ns

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instead

fathom elm
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I've been using the shoulder opener but replacing vanish/ envenom with vanish/ rupture, I'm assuming that's right lol

gilded lark
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you use the subt opener

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but vanish -> rupture instead

sudden flint
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So without mantle (Iโ€™m using boots ring) what is optimal to spend vanish on?

gilded lark
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sir

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please look directly

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above

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that

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post

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sudden flint
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Lol

modest wharf
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no mantle + ns = rupture

sudden flint
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Ya

spare cloud
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Broadsides is going to have a breakdown today

safe matrix
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I'm just gonna toss this here

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Cause

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T I L T E D

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the fight was 4 minutes

gilded lark
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gratz, you earned it

safe matrix
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Go back to telling people about vanish>rupture

gilded lark
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sry too busy getting

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poison bombs

spare cloud
gilded lark
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nah that's a lie, killed invasion boss with 0

safe matrix
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Lul

gilded lark
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forgot how cheesy world content is with 100% crit gachiGASM

safe matrix
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Someone posted here the other day a vari fight

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With literally no poison bombs

gilded lark
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had krosus pulls like that back last time i raided on rog

spare cloud
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Gotta save them for the important bosses

gilded lark
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some pulls 0

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kill 14%

drifting cosmos
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what % of dmg is that lol

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5m pb

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might as well just unlearned the trait

spare cloud
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About as much dmg as my pantheon trinket does

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๐Ÿค”

drifting cosmos
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๐Ÿค” but it has pantheon proc

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should be more than that tbh

gilded lark
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๐Ÿค”

spare cloud
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it also has agility...not my point also it was a joke

dire spoke
gilded lark
warm geode
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how much crit do u guys think is confortable for bracer/boots build?

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to keep envenon 70%+ , dont feel so slow the rotation ( double mut all time )

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i got a 965 neck from dogs, cant use, i lose 7% crit ( 39->32% ) using eoa 940 socked .-.

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5k dps diference

viscid helm
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general crit is irrelevant

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only crit that matters is muti

warm geode
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i dont have any bb relics, and to replace i need 2 with bis traits ( bb,shocklight,malch)

viscid helm
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i have 60% crit and additional 10% from dog trinket and i can basically have 100% env and 2 pc uptime

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smoothest gameplay you're ever gonna see

warm geode
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@_@

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i have 39+ 2shocklights + EoC 955 ( about 54% when concordance procs )

shrewd oriole
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  • BB
warm geode
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sad life, got 980 dogs boots yesterday, cant use on argus prog

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@viscid helm how much do u simc?

viscid helm
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bit under 2.2 with Alacrity

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im only 970

warm geode
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970 is above avg

viscid helm
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need amanthuls

viscid helm
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also Alacrity APL is poop

warm geode
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just want a good crit/mast neck

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gonna try alacrity today at argus

vestal wren
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@viscid helm i can look into it if you give me details on what to change

viscid helm
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afaik it has really bad uptimes, someone was looking at it earlier

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80% on 2pc someone said etc, i havent even had time to look at it myself

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prob should this weekend

warm geode
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alacrity on simc , only show 50k max, down from tb build, i think this is pretty good

#

87.21% uptime on virulent_poisons @_@ what ??? something is wrong

shrewd oriole
#

โ€œ970 os above avgโ€

#

No it isnโ€™t lol

#

The lowest person in my guild is 971

spare cloud
#

depends on the sample size

shrewd oriole
#

I mean

#

Flowi raids mythic

#

Yeah itโ€™s above average for people doing like 5/9 + heroic

#

But

#

Iโ€™m elitist

#

Kappa

spare cloud
#

Probably low compared to his guildies

shrewd oriole
#

Pretty low for a dps id say

viscid helm
#

our healers are 980

shrewd oriole
#

Exactly lol

spare cloud
#

we have a warlock with 983 equipped

#

which is nice

shrewd oriole
#

What the

#

Iโ€™m only 973 feels bad man

spare cloud
#

can't slow adds on aggramar because corruption kills them

shrewd oriole
#

Got two 945 pieces

spare cloud
#

I'm on 973 as well

shrewd oriole
#

Finally done with progress tho

spare cloud
#

but 973 shitgear

shrewd oriole
#

Which means Iโ€™ll finally get gear next week bby

spare cloud
#

probably would sim like 100k more with 970 and good pieces

shrewd oriole
#

How much do you sim

spare cloud
#

not even 2,1 mil

shrewd oriole
#

Wtf

#

Thatโ€™s so shit

spare cloud
#

I have 22% crit

shrewd oriole
#

I sim 2.3

#

OMEGALUL

viscid helm
#

i have 2x 0 DPS T2's

#

on relics

shrewd oriole
#

Lmao

spare cloud
#

I play poison build with mantle and bracers

shrewd oriole
#

Top3 relics btw

spare cloud
#

and crit is my top stat

viscid helm
#

like the t1 and t3

spare cloud
#

i think that says it all

viscid helm
#

are perfect

#

cucked by t2's

shrewd oriole
#

Crit was my highest too

viscid helm
#

3x MA 2x BB 1xMalch

shrewd oriole
#

At a certain point

spare cloud
#

I have like perfect sub gear

shrewd oriole
#

When I had like 230% mastery and 20% crit

spare cloud
#

Yeah well

shrewd oriole
#

Managed to get a few upgrades, drop some versa

viscid helm
#

look at this

spare cloud
#

I have 208% mastery

#

20% versa though

shrewd oriole
#

Damn

#

Those relics are nice

viscid helm
#

ohh it doesnt even show fully

#

yeh 7/7 weak point

#

and 7/7 Gut

shrewd oriole
#

I passed on 985 fel relic from argus ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

viscid helm
#

yeh im actually dumb

#

pretty sure i have been coining argus 2x now as Sin

#

when all sin relics are trash

shrewd oriole
#

Lul

#

I didnโ€™t even bother coining it

#

Shit assa geae

#

Kingaroth is where it is at

#

Yโ€™all started alt mythic runs yet?

viscid helm
#

god no

#

were just bringing in like 2-4 alts for each clear

shrewd oriole
#

Fair

#

Our alts are p much all 965+ so I reckon weโ€™re gonna do the same for a month then start alt clears

#

It would be super tight on the mount otherwise tbh

viscid helm
#

is it?

#

i mean

#

you got like 7 months or something

spare cloud
#

Shouldn't be tight

#

tbh

shrewd oriole
#

26 mounts or something

#

But that would mean 0 sales p much

#

We have like a 25 man roster

viscid helm
#

true

#

but then again

#

what good is gold in this game anymore

shrewd oriole
#

Thatโ€™s assuming mjmm mood m je

viscid helm
#

after the removal of BMAH mythic items

#

in MoP

shrewd oriole
#

Thats assuming we raid summer too

turbid harbor
#

and that assumes you rekill argus every week

shrewd oriole
#

Yep

#

So yeah, itโ€™ll be tight ahah

viscid helm
#

yeh were gonna take a summer break as well AND POE BREAK

shrewd oriole
#

Always nice to buy some boes at launch

turbid harbor
#

my guild hadn't recleared for 5 weeks

viscid helm
turbid harbor
#

did garothi to coven in 4 hours

#

so many stupid wipes

shrewd oriole
#

Lul

#

Thatโ€™s bad

#

Rip

turbid harbor
#

8 hours for aggramar and argus

shrewd oriole
#

I reckon we do 10/11 in 2 and a half hours

viscid helm
#

Argus was

#

not sure how to describe it

shrewd oriole
#

I wish we would take a poe break

#

It releases Friday right?

viscid helm
#

yeh

shrewd oriole
#

Wanna level together?

viscid jacinth
#

Hey guys been away from the games since NH hows assassination in M+

shrewd oriole
#

Itโ€™s good in upper Kara, pretty meh in everything else

viscid helm
#

i dont even know if im gonna play SC or HC yet

#

SC is nice $$$$

shrewd oriole
#

I mean you lose beasts if you die fighting them

#

Might as well go HC

viscid helm
#

exalts are like 25โ‚ฌ in the start

shrewd oriole
#

Lmao

#

Ar em tee

viscid helm
#

always

#

in the start

#

i stop when the prices start dropping

lucid carbon
#

Sin is alright for m+, fun when PB procs

#

And fun on bosses

spare cloud
#

Sounds like fun to rely on proccs

shrewd oriole
#

^

#

Do I get a proc or do we wipe is always a fun playstyle

lucid carbon
#

Doesnt really matter unless you are pushing high keys

shrewd oriole
#

If your gear is shit then low keys are high keys

lucid carbon
#

15-18 is fine as sin

shrewd oriole
#

Your gear or you of course

spare cloud
#

I mean anything is fine in 15-18

shrewd oriole
#

Plus the lower the key the worse assa is

spare cloud
#

but as sin you dont get to do anything on that level

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz the faster stuff dies

#

The more ahead sub is

spare cloud
#

which isnt fun

shrewd oriole
#

So that argument is really fallible

spare cloud
#

I just started playing league again

shrewd oriole
#

Just play sub

spare cloud
#

sucks to suck

#

I've played 4 games so far and laned against yasuo in 3 of them

#

Nice.

shrewd oriole
#

Classic

spare cloud
#

and in the 4th one i laned against garen

#

also I pick mid first top second and i was top in 3 games

#

seems like many people play top nowadays

rapid hound
#

@viscid helm man the assassin changes are brutal

#

Can't wait

viscid helm
#

What? you mean BFA?

rapid hound
#

Nah poe

viscid helm
#

ohh

#

lol

#

yeh its pretty class gannon

#

immune to ref and perma 20ms tho

#

tbh i'm just waiting for Elementalist

#

got high hopes

rapid hound
#

Ye

viscid helm
#

cos its been trash since ignite removal

shrewd oriole
#

Iโ€™m waiting for necro

viscid helm
#

nerf spectres

#

have u guys seen this

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah ahaha

#

Nah dude buff necro PogChamp

viscid helm
#

they just need to nerf tukhoma or w/e

#

they are called

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah

#

True

#

Tbh no ascendancy has been nerfed so I think itโ€™d be pretty bad of the only nerfed one is necro

rapid hound
#

So u can have 6 totems now?

viscid helm
#

always been able to

nimble tartan
#

im playing the classic

#

ED CONTAGION

#

WOOO

viscid helm
nimble tartan
#

chaos mmm

viscid helm
#

at least wait for the trickster/occult reworks

#

need to wait for deadeye release to see what can be done with shield throw

nimble tartan
#

ye im gonna wait

#

are those things gonna be live when the new season drops or naw

viscid helm
#

everyone be ready to snipe shields

#

idiots not gonna know the value

#

cos they have never had any

stone sandal
#

When ur girl tells you "The hate on her is taking control over me" - you know you dont meet that other girl this evening LOL

#

Fuck it
Im just gonna cloak her fangs and vanish outta the house lol

gaunt moat
#

๐Ÿค”

turbid harbor
#

haha nice man

stone sandal
#

Okay guys

#

Quick question, what do u think

#

940 relic: Toxic Blades (Env Dmg) + Guishing Wounds (Rupture dmg)
or
965 relic: Serrated Edge (Rupt crit chance) + MaAlch

spare cloud
#

Sim it

#

Probably 965 though

stone sandal
#

The 940 got T2 Mastery+Avoidance aswell

#

the 945 got 60k - 300k shadow dmg procc

spare cloud
#

sim it

stone sandal
#

How do I actually sim crucibles?

quaint bobcat
#

Raidbots

stone sandal
#

got it ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Wait a second, is Balanced Blades actually better than MA and MaAlch?

#

asking because it seems like raidbots ranked best to worst in the options to pick?

#

shit long queue we got there lol

#

I guess.. hey, 15k is 15k ๐Ÿ˜„

quaint bobcat
#

You did it ๐Ÿ‘

stone sandal
#

HOLY SHIT its 15.826!

honest needle
#

does any 1 kno why weak auras are randomly disapearing

#

all my weak auras disapeared

#

that i had saved for all my toons

vagrant hamlet
#

Happens sometimes

#

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17610962109 read this @honest needle otherwise they are most likely gone

warm parcel
#

Or just start making back ups if you deem them that important as the thread creator

gaunt moat
#

yeah i recommend backing them up on wago.io

warm geode
pulsar turtle
#

hey guys new to sin after my opener i just apply vandetta when off cd and combine kingsbane with envenom and exsang just when off cd its not like i try to align these 3 after my opener right?

gaunt moat
#

@pulsar turtle check the guide linked in the header or pins

pulsar turtle
#

yea i did thats why i ask

gaunt moat
#

i'd not recommend playing exsang if you're new to sin

strong ore
#

I agree with notter

#

Donโ€™t pick up exsang

pulsar turtle
#

okay and why do you guys think that?

viscid helm
#

why would you ever take exsang when Alacrity is just superior?

gaunt moat
#

don't troll him flowi

strong ore
#

Toxic blade is much better

viscid helm
#

Im not?

#

no

#

most people have Alacrity simming like 1-2% behind TB

#

with 80% uptime APL

gaunt moat
#

@pulsar turtle exsang usually underperforms, and it's harder to play it correctly (you would need to have 7/7 Master assassin relics as well to align it with vendetta, to answer your previous question)

pulsar turtle
#

mh yea i just sim'ed myself and tb is 0,1% stronger yesterday when i first specced into this exsang was like 6% stronger

spare cloud
#

way harder to get the rest of the gear for it as well

viscid helm
#

how is it harder?

#

How is getting crit/vers gear "harder" than crit/mast

#

gear

gaunt moat
#

for me the harder part in exsang is reacting to the CPs you get to know when to rupture at lower CP

pulsar turtle
#

just started playing wow 3 weeks ago or so and im testing out all 3 speccs of rogue to get a feeling which one i really wanna commit to started with outlaw then sub which i did the last week and now im testing sin

gaunt moat
#

then i'd start with a simpler talent build

spare cloud
#

Well it's not harder, you just dont get as many items for it in the current raid

#

which actually makes it harder to gear for

#

per definition

strong ore
#

Spec wise, assasin is easier to play with over sub

#

Better off going assasin cuz you can always switch over to sub once you are doing normal and heroic runs on a regular bases

pulsar turtle
#

okay so now i got another question vendetta is one a 45sec cd toxic blades on 25 its okay to delay toxic blades to get vendetta in but vice verse is it ok delaying vendetta for toxic blades?

strong ore
#

I went the other way around I was sub and switched to assasin. Lol I am screwing up my DFB with shadow dance which was screening over my dps

spare cloud
#

Vendetta 45 seconds cd?

pulsar turtle
#

oh nvm

#

im stupid

strong ore
#

It is ideal to synchronize Toxic Blade Icon Toxic Blade usage with the last 9 seconds of Kingsbane Icon Kingsbane, as it ticks the strongest during that time,

spare cloud
#

Also you can find that information in the guide

strong ore
#

Wanna use it with kingsbane

spare cloud
#

yeah but thats not gonna happen every time

pulsar turtle
#

kk so its okay to delay kb or tb but only for a short period of time

spare cloud
#

You dont wanna delay kb

#

But as i said, everything is in the guide

#

you should read it first and then confirm if you still have questions

pulsar turtle
#

thats what i just did tbh

kindred forge
#

No more then 4sec

spare cloud
#

Well

#

in case you oversaw it

pulsar turtle
#

yea i asked the other way around tho if its okay to delay kingsbane when toxic blade is coming up soon

#

cuz its okay if i do that with toxic blade

spare cloud
#

Why would you delay tb for kb but also delay kb for tb

#

it only works one way

pulsar turtle
#

yea at one time but when i have 45 sec cd on kb and 25 on tb it will shift to where you have either tb but not kb and the other way around after the opener

#

like some time in the fight

quick talon
#

45 Second cooldown on kb? Are you playing without any poison ?

pulsar turtle
#

oh shit omg

spare cloud
#

Did you read your abilities?

pulsar turtle
#

yea its hard to remember everything im sry guys

spare cloud
#

Try to read everything and get used to all the abilities first

#

it will clear up many questions

pulsar turtle
#

yea thanks guys... and sry

spare cloud
#

You don't need to apologize to us, its not us having the problems because of that ๐Ÿ˜„

dire spoke
#

Toffi toxic again

#

tz

spare cloud
#

sry ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dire spoke
#

yeah sorry ):

spare cloud
dire spoke
spare cloud
#

I still dont have nitro

dire spoke
#

git gud

spare cloud
#

I just had the worst league games of my life

#

right when i started playin again

dire spoke
#

I just died #11 with no weapon in pubg

spare cloud
#

I played h1z1 once when pubg didnt exist yet

#

i died and uninstalled

#

refunded

wanton bough
#

I remember my first time in League

#

picks Ashe and proceed to just use the E
get reported
uninstall asap

lament pawn
#

Guys do i enchant my cloak with mastery or agility

#

has vers crit

spare cloud
#

sim

strange python
#

cloak

#

is agi

crystal fox
#

goooood morning ravenholdt

kind ether
#

Anyone that has a /say WA for whenever pb procs

dire spoke
novel island
#

I used to have one, but asked myself, why do I need it.

vapid moth
#

@pulsar turtle you learned. It's fine

spare cloud
#

Not like tanks are gonna stop moving the mobs out of your pb

#

also the spam is obnoxious

lucid carbon
#

I use it with my guildie tank

#

Made a WA that shows up on his screen in m+

#

And one for me in stealth so he doesnt pull bosses too quick ๐Ÿ˜Ž

dire spoke
#

I have a say WA for every 1 energy tick I gain

lucid carbon
#

Can you share it?

dire spoke
stone sandal
#

@quick talon what exactly should poisons do to kb cd?!

viscid helm
stone sandal
#

"45 Second cooldown on kb? Are you playing without any poison ?"

?!

#

lol

#

ok

#

im gonna kill myself hahahaha xD

#

Holy crap im to fkn tired for this world rn

dire spoke
#

I'm also super tired and lazy today

prime void
#

The pro tip

#

Is dont delay kb or tb

#

Thats the real dps win.

stone sandal
#

Do you know the feelin when ur eyes are dry and feel "corny"?
Like totally red and fucked up aswell?

๐Ÿ‘‹

dire spoke
#

I delay TB if it's up around 8s mark

#

or

#

actually if it's up max 5s before mark

prime void
#

8s mark?

viscid helm
#

sounds awful

prime void
#

Such a long delay

dire spoke
#

why not cover last KB ticks if you don't delay it to long

#

ugh

#

at least I thought it's a thing

prime void
#

I mean 5 is aiight. Not 8 lol

dire spoke
#

8s mark on KB

#

sorry, to tired to form a good sentence lol

weak isle
#

can someone tell me what is reducing my cd on kingsbane ?

#

i just had 25sec on KB & TB

#

but KB got up earlier

crystal fox
#

spending cps

weak isle
#

so only using cp's?

shrewd oriole
#

Read the tooltip of the ability dude

#

Cmon

crystal fox
#

Sinister Circulation, golden trait in your weapon

shrewd oriole
prime void
#

Your poisons

dire spoke
#

[insert correct answer]

prime void
#

@stone sandal why were you shocked by the do you have your poisons on point, you know thats correct right ?

jovial kite
#

Tom

#

Hows the syphillis

crystal fox
#

tom, did you stick it in her?

prime void
#

Howd the date go fam?

shrewd oriole
#

P good

stone sandal
#

@prime void ya im just too damn tired .. didnt even recognized that we have a trait for that

shrewd oriole
#

Iโ€™m like 7 glasses of sangria in right now but it was great, she wanted to meet again next week

prime void
#

Yeah just go

crystal fox
#

did you get to drop your poison load on her?

lone junco
#

Pancakes?

prime void
#

She cutey?

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah I went over to hers

jovial kite
#

Nice

shrewd oriole
#

Her apartment was so nice dude

dire spoke
#

she wants to cook vegan food for Tom

shrewd oriole
#

^

tame cobalt
#

how much does the rotation change if i use DS over Vigor?

dire spoke
jovial kite
#

But hows the syphillis?

shrewd oriole
#

Donโ€™t use ds over vigor

#

Wrong question cya later

tame cobalt
#

even if it sims higher?

shrewd oriole
#

Are you bleed?

jovial kite
#

Yes

tame cobalt
#

no

jovial kite
#

Am syphillis

tame cobalt
#

im poison

shrewd oriole
#

Just play vigor

dire spoke
#

god damn master, you confused me rn

shrewd oriole
#

Stphilis is great dude

tame cobalt
#

Why tho?

jovial kite
#

Did you wiggle your sausage in her salad bowl

shrewd oriole
#

I ate her veggies dude

jovial kite
#

Nice

#

๐Ÿ† ?

shrewd oriole
#

Ate out that peach

jovial kite
#

Ufff

dire spoke
#

lick up the guacamole

#

Tom she's either desperate or crazy kappa be aware

lone junco
#

Or normal

prime void
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

strange python
#

I read on mmo that with t21 you use 3x fok, ignore the CP overflow and then envom in aoe situations, is that true?

crystal fox
#

what

dire spoke
strange python
#

I tried it and due to the energy gain you wont go ooe, not sure tho if thats the best way

crystal fox
#

who reads classguides on mmo champion?

#

wtf

#

i'd rank that below noxxic even

dire spoke
#

maybe it's meta and we're all wrong

spare cloud
#

I dont understand anything

dire spoke
#

you're candy

#

it's fine

spare cloud
#

I'm not anymored

#

I was forced to give up my identity

#

by cruel assa chat

naive walrus
#

Yo guys, I have 174%mastery and 23%crit, can you tell me whats the crit cap, do I need to push crit litte bit higher ?

spare cloud
#

yes

naive walrus
#

Oki, so whats the optimal mastery %

dire spoke
#

no

spare cloud
#

when versatility sims higher than mastery and crit

#

you should probably get some versa

naive walrus
#

got 10% versa

spare cloud
#

does it sim higher than mast and crit though?

naive walrus
#

let me check

#

Mastery

44.81

Crit

40.91

Vers

36.43

Agi

31.19

Haste

24.07

spare cloud
#

then you need more mastery and crit

#

until it doesnt look like that anymore

#

(:

naive walrus
#

๐Ÿ˜ƒ

restive inlet
#

Mastery all the way for me. Even at 24% crit (blergh) mastery sims higher for me at least

spare cloud
#

Happens

bleak adder
#

I have like 200% mast

#

mast still sims higher

viscid helm
#

24% crit omegaLUL

restive inlet
#

I have 212%

spare cloud
#

You still want crit as secondary stat though

#

for more cp

viscid helm
#

nice fucking 2-3cp mutis

#

what a cancer

bleak adder
#

crit is like a little bit below mast tho

restive inlet
#

playing sub for so long has left me very versatility-heavy-.-

spare cloud
#

yeah but there are no mast only items that high

#

so you want high mast low crit

#

most of the time

bleak adder
#

25% crit

#

12% vers

spare cloud
#

I honestly dont know how you guys can play like that

#

I cry every time my mutilate doesnt crit

bleak adder
#

5% hast omegalul

naive walrus
#

so, its good idea to get at least 25% crit ?

restive inlet
#

I have a good shadow singed fang at least, 965

spare cloud
#

You want more than 25% crit

#

but you dont want to give mastery up for it

naive walrus
#

@spare cloud thx bro

spare cloud
#

unless your sim tells you to

#

(:

bleak adder
#

Yeah need mast crit

spare cloud
#

thats why i told you to sim

dire spoke
#

stop the feelycraft

spare cloud
#

wat

lone junco
#

just get 45 crit and play eptb

#

22/215 is a good example of how stat weights can be weird.

spare cloud
#

Are you saying that my rogue is weird?

lone junco
#

stat weights are the next 1300 stat. based on your current profile. It is absolutely not telling you the best stat distribution.

spare cloud
#

But is there even a best stat distribution

lone junco
#

i mean, yes.

dire spoke
#

assuming all items 985 there is a actually "best in slot"

lone junco
#

not bis. just an ideal crit/mastery/vers balance

dire spoke
#

yeah that's why I "" it

spare cloud
#

Yeah

lone junco
#

depends on oranges, so there is not 1 answer, if you have shoulders, it suppresses crit a lot.

#

but everyone jerks to shoulderbomb luck, so they are "better"

spare cloud
#

Its not luck if you pray correctly

muted gyro
#

Good day fellow assassins.
I wanted to buy my sin rogue one of those JC crafted helmets. I'm at 39.04% crit, and sim tells me that right now Versatility is better than Crit (28.16 Vers / 27.03 Crit).
So I wanted to ask you if I should buy a Mastery/Versatility head? or stick to Crit/Mastery like most guides say?

spare cloud
#

Wait do you play

#

poison build?