#assassination

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safe tiger
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you got a mastery stick, go use that

buoyant escarp
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915 singed lmao

exotic glen
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not having 1000 golg yet

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casul

buoyant escarp
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i am

versed abyss
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Yeah I have a 995 golg and a 935 urn

devout hollow
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i have 12 blessings feelshug

versed abyss
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Not sure which to use

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950 fang and 935 eoc

buoyant escarp
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i have mastery stat stick 910

safe tiger
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whats the urn again?

buoyant escarp
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sw sucks on assa yeah_

exotic glen
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mastery stat stick

versed abyss
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The mastery stat stick from kara

devout hollow
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dankest mastery stick

safe tiger
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ow then

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aoe = urn + shadow

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st = golg + shadow

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eoc can probably compare to shadow singed fangs in your st

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so id say sim that

versed abyss
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Maybe on tyrannical huh

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Boss up linger eoc may pull ahead

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Longer*

safe tiger
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well

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i got 945 shadow singed fang + socket

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and i think my 940 eoc is better for st

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so id say in your case, they are also very close

buoyant escarp
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i feel like im better sticking outlaw for m+

safe tiger
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just need mythic dogs trinket, but it never drops

buoyant escarp
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assa seems kinda weak

safe tiger
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orrr

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you play sub

versed abyss
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Yeah same my 935 doc Sims better than my 950 fang but that's at 5 mins... I need to SIM it at around 2 mins for mythic +

manic vigil
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20mil crits gachiGASM

versed abyss
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Eoc

safe tiger
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honestly kvothe

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its probably not a huge difference

manic vigil
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Into bolstering rip

safe tiger
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just lean to eoc is you stick to the target

tepid pagoda
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short question. Got two relics with both Master Assassin in NC Tier 3. Why does if i skill both its a dmg loss for me?

safe tiger
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and dogs tirnket if you switch

versed abyss
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Yeah you're prob right...1 to 2% max

spare cloud
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What is going on with varimathras m logs

safe tiger
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i wish i had a mastery stat stick

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op op

torn token
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I use a 975 mine trinket πŸ˜ƒ

versed abyss
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Oh yeah a other thing...I've been using my 945 fire mines trinket for the mastery...curious if that's better than the 930 mast stat stick

exotic glen
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no

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it fucking sucks

safe tiger
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a fat no

versed abyss
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Really? Is it the agility

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From the stat stick

exotic glen
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the mines do no dmg man

versed abyss
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Yeah I was not using it for the mast then the mines

manic vigil
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Need dat tf engine

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Let's go farm tos guys peepocheer peepowee

safe tiger
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i think i threw a 930 away when i was sub :S

versed abyss
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Oh that sucks lol

manic vigil
devout hollow
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deja vu

safe tiger
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pugging past 6/9 mythic tos, gl

versed abyss
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Yeah I miss the burst air of sub but like my boss damage more on mythic plus

hoary copper
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Reasons why Im a hoarder of gear

versed abyss
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Aoe

manic vigil
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Sub is just better imo

versed abyss
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Yeah been running mythic tos and groups never get past maiden

manic vigil
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I've been a lazy sin as well

safe tiger
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you should be happy

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i host a 6/9 run every week

manic vigil
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But now I'm back to sub for m+

safe tiger
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im not even trying maiden anymore

versed abyss
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Got a 935 glaives with a socket though out of it

safe tiger
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stuck with t20 for aoe sub until the end of expansion

manic vigil
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Just make your guild run it kappa

torn token
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Too much work to pug maiden +

safe tiger
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make my guild run it

manic vigil
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Everybody loves tos right

safe tiger
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good one bru

versed abyss
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I still need a good shoulder t20

manic vigil
safe tiger
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what

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why

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you

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need

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t20 shoulders

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when lego shoulders are a thing

keen inlet
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Man engine just

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ticked me off

versed abyss
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I use 2 piece and 4 piece for maiden and run wrists and feet

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Not maiden

keen inlet
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proc never happened at convenient times for me

safe tiger
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ow sin

versed abyss
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Coven lol

keen inlet
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I have terrible rng luck tho

safe tiger
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i got 950 t20

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is 4p 2p sin any good?

versed abyss
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Dang lol

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I think just for coven It is

manic vigil
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Engine proccs left and right idk

bold dune
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it's good in general with strong t20 pieces

safe tiger
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ah t20 gives you cheaper garrot

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i see

manic vigil
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I love it, screw mantle

versed abyss
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I kept passing on it when we were in tos as a guild thinking I've got my leggos shoulders I'll never use these as sub smh

safe tiger
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i should try it today on coven then

bold dune
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I wouldn't just use it in coven

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Since if you have two 950 t20 pieces it's probably the best option in general

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you should probably sim it

safe tiger
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even on st?

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like 1 boss

bold dune
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yep

safe tiger
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i see why its better on 2 targets

versed abyss
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Yeah I screwed myself cause I switched late to my rogue was raining a dh for most of the xpac but thought the new tier would suck for dhs so I switched to rogue lol

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Maining

safe tiger
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with t20 should i do subterfuge?

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or still nightstalker

bold dune
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yes

versed abyss
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U don't need subterfuge though

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I wouldn't think

bold dune
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It's not necessary but why wouldn't you run subterfuge if it's better?

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fwiw I'm pretty sure subterfuge is the best option for any setup with bracers but without shoulders

torn token
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Dh is good, in eonar πŸ˜ƒ

versed abyss
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Oh I still run my dh and have been kicking myself the more geared he gets lol

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Love playing the new build just thought man they are gonna suck st...boy was I wrong

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They still do really well

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I'd they get the crit that is

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If*

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I see nelbur I'll def try that out

fair rain
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@bold dune shush

torn token
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I want to go boots/bracer too but anything i sim, shoulder/bracer is king

bold dune
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hey tumna if you wanna have my rogue spot in HC it's available now lol

fair rain
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Negative

safe tiger
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so my t20 sims higher, but only if there are 2 targets

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i mean 4p 2p

bold dune
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interesting

versed abyss
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Yeah that makes sense gogi

keen inlet
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Tumna

fair rain
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Jose

versed abyss
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Same for me

keen inlet
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do you want spec colour

fair rain
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I want hot pink

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Make it for me

keen inlet
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that's the best I can do

fair rain
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Hm

keen inlet
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you are now bleedy boiye

fair rain
versed abyss
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What Sims higher subterfuge or nightstalker gogi?

bold dune
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I'm certain that with boots+bracers subterfuge will sim higher

versed abyss
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Yeah I'm not home so I can't check It, but you're prob right nelbur

keen inlet
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tbh

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aside from speedy stealth

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(which doesn't matter)

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I don't really care for nightstalker anyway

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but i use it rn because it sims higher

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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I liked the t20 garrote-y playstyle

safe tiger
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subterfuge for 2targets

solid field
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speedy stealth tho

safe tiger
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you know the funny thing

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it sims that for shoulders+wrists

bold dune
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I don't run NS as much anymore but I'm pretty sure you can still get cancelled prematurely by golg's

safe tiger
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i guess my 980 vicious flamepaws make me not sim boots lego high

bold dune
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which was why I hated it when I was exclusively running shoulders

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and yeah that's probably true gogi

versed abyss
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Haha 980 you schmuck

safe tiger
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this is so wierd

keen inlet
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980

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great skill

bold dune
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legendary setup is contingent on what offpieces are available

keen inlet
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heh

safe tiger
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3p t21 2p t20 sims higher

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than 4p t21

bold dune
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πŸ€”

versed abyss
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With shoulders/wrists??

safe tiger
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but hey, only on 2 targets

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yea

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the 980 boots must be worn!

versed abyss
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What about for dogs??? Or is that just stack em and let pb carry you?

solid field
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are you the king of TF or some shit

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holy crap

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evarthang TF

bold dune
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fascinating

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I probably wouldn't run anything but shoulders in your case lol

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with NS ofc

torn token
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3.1 3pc2pc lol

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Oh wait 2 targets 🀒

safe tiger
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yeah for st its still tp 21

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its just this

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some top logs on coven do use t20

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but they use boots

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but boots don't top sim for me xD

versed abyss
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That's what happens when you put gear a leggo haha

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Out*

safe tiger
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BUT

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its coven

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you can't assume ill garrote them on cd

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i have to play the mechanics

versed abyss
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Yeah true

safe tiger
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soooooooo

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the more i fuck up

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the worse this gets right?

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i guess for parse, i should switch

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but realisticly

versed abyss
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So with subterfuge and t20 do you just carrots off cool down or wait for it to almost fall off before reapplying

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Stupid auto correct

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Garrote

safe tiger
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thats the idea

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t20 2p with t21 3p and shoulder+wrists

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lmao

lone junco
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carrot off cd? no

manic vigil
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πŸ₯• off cooldown op

lone junco
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that would be like every 3 sec

manic vigil
versed abyss
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Hahaha

lone junco
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subterfuge is only refreshed with vanish during pandemic of the previous.

spare cloud
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πŸ€”

lone junco
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carrot then like 12 sec later vanish carrot

manic vigil
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Notter sure likes it

lone junco
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lol spamming carrot.

versed abyss
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Hah

lone junco
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that is what I do

gaunt moat
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πŸ‡

manic vigil
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No, bad notter. You can't have the carrots

gaunt moat
dire spoke
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pepeLUL stop memeing without me

manic vigil
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So adorable

versed abyss
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Ok so just to be clear lol cause I only started playing assassination rogue recently was sub before that...you don't just spam carrot off cool down but do you wait for it to have 7 or 8 secs left before reapplying it?? Lol

crystal fox
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always spam carrot

versed abyss
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Garrote is officially carrot from now on lol

gaunt moat
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yes, to extend it with pandemic

lone junco
manic vigil
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This is gonna be a thing now isn't it

versed abyss
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Hahaha ues!!!

gaunt moat
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gotta extend the carrot

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πŸ₯• πŸ₯• πŸ₯• πŸ₯• πŸ₯•

void pecan
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Tie a weight to it

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only way to extend your carrot

gaunt moat
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@versed abyss there's more details about it in the guide + my WAs linked in the pins have a glow to tell you when to refresh carrot

exotic glen
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also great way to never use your carrot again ganandor

lone junco
manic vigil
dire spoke
versed abyss
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Oh nice yeah I'll check that out mother thanks!!

lone junco
versed abyss
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Son of a!!

dire spoke
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mother πŸ€”

versed abyss
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Haha

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Notter

manic vigil
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Notter = mother PogChamp

versed abyss
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I quit lol

shrewd oriole
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fuck me

dire spoke
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Mother of Carrots

shrewd oriole
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shit cache

gaunt moat
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....

exotic glen
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mommy bunny

shrewd oriole
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envenom damage xd

manic vigil
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peepocomfy this is just the beginning

versed abyss
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Hahahaha my auto correct is screwing everything up

dire spoke
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MAss πŸ’ͺ

shrewd oriole
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and malch

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LUL

dire spoke
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welcome to my world

shrewd oriole
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mass malch or it's shit Kappa

dire spoke
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welcome to bobs and vegana

jovial kite
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rank 19 aggra with exsang

shrewd oriole
jovial kite
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without touching adds

shrewd oriole
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this is the truly sad relic

manic vigil
dire spoke
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oh wow

manic vigil
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Where is Naya btw

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Ded

shrewd oriole
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or this one

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this one is 980 btw

dire spoke
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naya is playing monk in Tom's heroic pugs heHEE

shrewd oriole
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lul

prime void
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nice relic there tom

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kappa

jovial kite
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meme btw

torn token
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That master of shadows thou

shrewd oriole
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wait

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cybrix

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is that

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THE cybrix

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who used to play poe with krip

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p

manic vigil
exotic glen
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THE cybrix is parsing gray

shrewd oriole
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he's legit famous in poe

exotic glen
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what a god

torn token
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Lol

gaunt moat
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Do you know a person who's more low-energy than kripp?

shrewd oriole
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well

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he's famous for getting abnned

manic vigil
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Wasn't cybrix the pizza guy

solid field
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Kripp with that elbow always in the air

gaunt moat
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probably cause of vegan diet

dire spoke
manic vigil
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Low energy, vegan superpower

gaunt moat
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it's killing him

shrewd oriole
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this is also tragic

manic vigil
exotic glen
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you have to die and be reborn with superpowers for vegan diet to take effect

torn token
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Chaotic sorrows 🀒

manic vigil
shrewd oriole
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and be israeli

gaunt moat
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is it tomorrow?

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THE BIG DAY

shrewd oriole
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ye

manic vigil
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So Kripp = Jesus?

solid field
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the rebound day

manic vigil
gaunt moat
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oh yeah btw, israeli girls love man musk, so don't shower or put deordorant

solid field
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hahah

manic vigil
torn token
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Lol

shrewd oriole
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lmao

solid field
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wearyour t20 you haven't washed in a while

gaunt moat
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your phromones will attract her

manic vigil
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Nice "help" notter

void pecan
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Wait

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isn't tom's date

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soonβ„’

gaunt moat
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he hyped us so much over the date
that if he fails. he's getting banned.

void pecan
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Sounds like fair punishment

rose sapphire
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Guys on Imonar MYTHIC - boots is better right?

torn token
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No

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Too much downtime for boots

shrewd oriole
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: (

rose sapphire
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but more uptime on vandetta?

dire spoke
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with that argument boots would always be better

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lol

gaunt moat
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shoulders are probably better
but i got rank 1 on it with boots... so... whatever you feel more comfortable playing

dire spoke
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depends on your MAss

undone vapor
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are these stats good for assa ?

gaunt moat
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you try writing in hebrew unimatrix 😦

manic vigil
void pecan
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they're okay.

exotic glen
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too much haste

gaunt moat
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@brave abyss stats are what sim will tell you works best
but generally you want mastery and crit.
with shoulders crit is less valued so seems fine.

keen inlet
dire spoke
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Why does your panth icon look so strange

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is it the right one?

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lol

manic vigil
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Oh I'm gonna steal that Don

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Thx

marsh marlin
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I don't think you can even loot the others

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Does look weird though

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like the saturation is turned up

dire spoke
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yeah burns my eyes

vernal adder
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good

manic vigil
jovial kite
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2nd raidgroup killed aggra

vernal adder
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VITTU

dire spoke
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good god

marsh marlin
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he also has 3 different keybinds

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for kb

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LOL

manic vigil
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I can't click because my data volume is almost used up BabyRage

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Stop posting things

vernal adder
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no

jovial kite
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just FeelsNaMan things

serene horizon
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How do I play sin rogue?

manic vigil
dire spoke
icy karma
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do i have 2 refresh my bleeds 2 activate the execute dmg ? or does the actual bleed get just buffed right away?

marsh marlin
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it's all about thicc kingsbane's

serene horizon
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Hi coke!

marsh marlin
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πŸ‘‹

icy karma
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does anyone know the answer to my question? :x

molten flicker
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YES

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I know the answer

icy karma
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and what is the answer? πŸ˜„

vernal adder
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idk

molten flicker
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answer is

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no

icy karma
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do i have 2 refresh or not?

molten flicker
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you don't have to refresh

icy karma
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okay

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thanks

manic vigil
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πŸ–• hey chat, here is an answer for you πŸ–•

jovial kite
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reported

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to giggle

molten flicker
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^

vernal adder
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forsenGASM forsenWhip bend over unimatrix

manic vigil
molten flicker
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@gigelblush

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he siad a bad words

jovial kite
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gigelbush LUL

manic vigil
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naya snitches?

vernal adder
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Dunn Hose

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Nutter

dire spoke
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mother*

vernal adder
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grayhound is too easy so I wont do that

gaunt moat
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lol

dire spoke
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yo mom gray

vernal adder
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you're mum is so gravy

gaunt moat
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need to disable reactions to jose

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you know if broadsides sees this he'll say why are you spamming reactions when he got disabled for that

keen inlet
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tbf I should remove all of it, it's off topic

gaunt moat
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and racist

keen inlet
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what's racist

vernal adder
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all shadowblades are outlaw players anyway

keen inlet
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against gray ppl? or gravy ppl

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wait am I being memed

manic vigil
vernal adder
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im so fucking bored atm

keen inlet
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bored people get into trouble

rotund oar
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if the boss is at like 35% and I have my cooldowns, should I be saving them for below 30% for bracers

keen inlet
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@rotund oar Depends on that 5%

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which depends on the boss/group*

hoary copper
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Depends on the time till death too

gaunt moat
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@vernal adder play a different game

hoary copper
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If you vanish at 35% and can fit a 2nd one on, yes. If not, no

gaunt moat
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slay the spire / darkest dungeon is what i do right now

vernal adder
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Im not playing wow hardly at all atm

hoary copper
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lurks

versed abyss
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I meant to ask earlier since we were talking about subterfuge should I be taking that instead of nightstalker for mythic plus??

manic vigil
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Nah

hoary copper
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Bah spose I should go outside in the heat to actually work

manic vigil
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Heat POGGERS

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Where you at

hoary copper
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Ok so its only 85 here with feel like near 90, so its cool but still

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Florida

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US's sweaty testicle

vernal adder
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so whats that in c?

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30?

hoary copper
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29 is real temp, feel like is 32

manic vigil
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Imperial system btw FeelsAffMan

urban storm
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Yea it’s too damn hot here

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June temps in feb

marsh marlin
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june temps all year

vernal adder
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I would hate to have summer all year around

urban storm
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I enjoy not having to deal with snow

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But I remember when we’d at least have a couple months of decently lower temps

keen inlet
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I find living in a place where it gets cold does a good job of keeping a lot of people away

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which is nice

urban storm
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Yea

keen inlet
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but then you have to live in the cold 😦

marsh marlin
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you only have to deal w/ old people for about 1/4 of the year though

urban storm
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Cuz dealing with snow is miserable. And I’ve never lived anywhere but FL

marsh marlin
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so it's not bad

bold dune
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don is an old person

keen inlet
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32 mate

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ancient

vernal adder
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wow half in the ground

urban storm
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Lol

vernal adder
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so im semi ancient at 26

keen inlet
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around 30 I started feeling old

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and having weird thoughts like

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huh, crazy, that dude died at 60

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my life could be half over

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etc

manic vigil
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So

vernal adder
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I stopped thinking about my age after 23 lol

kindred forge
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30? Bless you

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45 here in 28 days

marsh marlin
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im 12

vernal adder
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gz on 50

manic vigil
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Btw haHAA

keen inlet
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what even is the min age for discord

vernal adder
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13 in may

lone junco
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Lol 12. Frames the insults and conversations well.

vernal adder
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Noobe you are poopyhead πŸ˜‚ πŸ‘Œ

lone junco
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Not specifically any one person but the age range is pretty substantial

limpid osprey
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Noobe what leggos do you use in your bleed build? Bracers boots?

solid field
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my grandfather died at 52, and i'm 33... I feel ya there Don jose.

keen inlet
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@lone junco fannnnntastic. And typical.

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got time ot run home and change?

vernal adder
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fuck it, wear that shit

keen inlet
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I'd say that too Ram but his company recently downsized and he dodged it

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

manic vigil
hoary copper
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Odd Don and I are the same ilvl and same age

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Are we the same person?

vernal adder
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brothers

lone junco
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Civil engineers have more Cred with dirty boots.

keen inlet
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that would make you Ion

lone junco
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It's not always a bad thing.

keen inlet
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we could have like

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a Father-Son-Holy Spirit thing going

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Ion is the Father, Bruen his misbegotten Son, and i'm the holy spirit of Combat Rouge

vernal adder
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the deadly makeup rogue

hoary copper
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I died for your poison bombs my children

vernal adder
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guess Ion is the resto shammy all father

hoary copper
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Ankh, the ultimate defensive cooldown

keen inlet
vernal adder
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wonder if he thought to himself when he said that: "Like fuck it is"

hoary copper
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:thionking:

keen inlet
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I think he doesn't think much when he's talking in the Q&A, like he thinks of an initial response

hoary copper
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dang

keen inlet
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but then he starts kinda wandering

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as an expert (obviously) on Ion Q&A's I feel qualified to analyze them

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I should log how often he moves his hands/speaks with his hands

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analyze it a la WCL

hoary copper
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make it a drinking game

vernal adder
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rip liver

hoary copper
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You might need to go to the ER for alcohol poisoning tho

keen inlet
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"Man his parse for this latest Q&A was unreal, did you see his uptime on not-blinking?"

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"500 All-star points for each time he avoids answering a controversial question/topic"

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That makes me very uncomfortable.

vernal adder
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Im a nice guy

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maybe

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idk

exotic glen
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ion destroying the scale with those all-star points

keen inlet
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"1000 all-star points for every time he and lore increase the tension in the room with a mutual look that lasts just a second too long"

vernal adder
keen inlet
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exactly

quick talon
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Atleast we don’t threaten minors in here haHAA

devout hollow
hoary copper
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At least there's no swastikas today.

strange python
#

don't get me started

jovial kite
#

dont summon the nazis

#

gigelbuh will πŸ”¨ the nazis

hoary copper
#

That's a take on the name

keen inlet
#

haw

jovial kite
#

what do you mean

#

her name is gigelbush

quick talon
#

His

hoary copper
#

Giggleblush you mean?

jovial kite
#

πŸ€”

#

no

vernal adder
#

Dunn Hose will sort it

jovial kite
#

@gigelbruh

#

see?

hoary copper
#

Fail

jovial kite
#

πŸ€”

#

u sure?

hoary copper
#

Yep

jovial kite
#

WOW

hoary copper
#

Wow

jovial kite
#

TOX INS

quick talon
#

?

jovial kite
#

banned LUL

quick talon
#

πŸ˜ƒ

keen inlet
jovial kite
#

if only there was an alpha channel thonking

hoary copper
#

πŸ€”

keen inlet
#

It's assassination content

#

discuss

spare cloud
#

I just got 980 set gloves

jovial kite
#

id link a picture but gigel will delet it

spare cloud
#

guess I'm not playing anything other than mantle bracers this content

hoary copper
#

MFD cooldown -30000

#

Blind to 1m, mastery affecting bleeds...

jovial kite
#

exsang will be king

vapid moth
#

Toph be happy you didn't get 980 set shoulders

hoary copper
#

venomous wounds including internal bleeding, garote or rupture hmmmm

vapid moth
#

@hoary copper you forgot 1min evasion.

shrewd oriole
#

what

#

the

#

fuck

hoary copper
#

ah I missed that

shrewd oriole
#

this guy in my normal group

#

what are these talents

#

LOL

vapid moth
#

Why was marked for death even a talent for sin? Something where the majority of damage comes from ticks

keen inlet
#

Sintlety Rouge

keen inlet
#

@vapid moth I'm sure on some level in like M+ you could maybe farm M4D for PB procs but ultimately that's going to fail

pure ingot
#

i need help deciding a legendary combo because i don't have mantle bracers

hoary copper
#

reroll Afflic

vernal adder
#

what you got?

tranquil birch
bold snow
#

Thoughts on shoulders vs boots for mythic argus?

tranquil birch
#

@pure ingot

pure ingot
#

i have both rings

magic zenith
#

Oh I'm stealing the hell out of that gif

pure ingot
#

shadow and insignia

#

i have legs

#

and the crafted bootds

#

boots*

#

i have the shadowblade ring and the insignia

#

for rings

#

and will of val for legs

#

and crafted boots and i dont know what to run

hoary copper
#

you can sim for the best combo using best in bag or whatever its called

prime void
#

top gear

hoary copper
#

It's probably double ring of those

#

yea that

vernal adder
#

ye prob 2 rings but sim that shite

pure ingot
#

alright i dont know how to sim

grim canopy
#

anyone know recent youtube or streamer who does M+ as sin

#

i looked bu ti can only find sub, or mostly other classes

safe tiger
vapid moth
#

rip mantle

grim canopy
#

lol

safe tiger
#

i doubt ill get it

#

didn't bis roll

hoary copper
#

Top gear you will need the simulationcraft addon and then use /simc and go to www.raidbots.com/simbot and find top gear and copy and paste that info in and select the pieces. @pure ingot

bold snow
#

Thoughts on shoulders vs boots for mythic argus? some seem to go for boots while most go shoulders

placid egret
#

@grim canopy infexious he's a shadow blade in here.

tranquil birch
#

yea idk about rip mantle

#

I got 985 gorathi shoulders and I still play mantle on most fights

#

boots bracers sim higher on 5min patchwork but unless the fight length is just right it turns out to be garbo

shrewd oriole
#

plus

#

shoulders have higher ceiling

tranquil birch
#

vanish double pb ftw

manic vigil
#

jhonwei seems fine 🀷

#

and my best parses are all without mantle, too

quick talon
#

Well mantle also gets cucked depending on the fightlength

safe matrix
#

@pure ingot Simming your gear and stat weights is a pretty easy and powerful way to know how to advance your character. You can sim which stats you need, optimal gear and talent set ups, and theoretical dps.

How to:

  1. download the simcraft add on from either twitch or https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simulationcraft
  2. Type /simc in game which pulls up a window of text, copy this text.
  3. Go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot pick what you want to sim and paste into the sim box.
  4. (Optional) change sim options to do AoE or change fight length.
  5. Hit sim and get your results.
manic vigil
#

I mean the ceiling part is true tho

#

when you get perfect bombs gachiGASM

acoustic mortar
#

Just recently capped my sin rogue, simming at about 1.2mil with t21 2pc, crafted boot leggo, and shit trinkets (941 ilvl overall). How much dps gain can I expect to see when I finish 4pc, and how big of an impact are BiS leggos?

safe matrix
#

Short answer: big impact

manic vigil
#

ye

acoustic mortar
#

haha that's what I thought

safe matrix
#

Long answer: big impacto

plain thistle
#

big impact, its impossible to give you a exact number without simming your character

manic vigil
#

my affli lock has 945 ilvl and still sims for shit

#

ilvl alone doesn't really help

fringe zodiac
#

hey guys could you recommend me a good guide to keep track on rupture, garrote and envenom

manic vigil
#

I have no set items at all and just some weird leggos

acoustic mortar
#

I went with boot leggo over free argus ring since I could stack mastery gems in it lol

manic vigil
#

@fringe zodiac guide? you mean a wa?

#

notter has some, or just check wago.io

fringe zodiac
#

sorry yeah i mean an addon

manic vigil
#

weak auras

grim canopy
#

what does rogue do better than ww monk, more surviblilty?

manic vigil
#

yes

prime void
#

cloak-evasion-cheat death

placid egret
#

Fucking monk just has karma and the 2 minute 50% reduction cd

prime void
#

you use diffuse

#

not even dampen

junior trail
#

are we still doing 4xt21 and 2xt20?

lean hill
#

If it sims the highest for you, sure

merry sparrow
#

!relics

chrome tuskBOT
exotic glen
#

kms

#

seems like we are re-progressing aggramar today

shrewd oriole
#

look at that

void pecan
#

What is that shit

quick talon
#

Damn

#

thats some hot build over there

gaunt moat
#

what do you mean

exotic glen
#

its garbage is what it is

gaunt moat
#

you don't know DFA is the new meta?

exotic glen
#

cmon notter

safe matrix
#

Subtlination

quick talon
#

nogger

exotic glen
#

toxic blade buffs dfa envenom ofc

gaunt moat
#

exactly, it quadruple dips

exotic glen
#

bis build

#

we just didnt know it

quick talon
#

tbh

#

If only dfa would be 1 row lower..

fringe zodiac
gaunt moat
#

i know it might be a silly question
but did you use any other cooldowns?

#

and, if you did
maybe try removing everything (right click on the group and choose "delete with children")
and import again

void pecan
#

make sure it's not clicked to.. hide? Not load? Something like that under the load tab

fringe zodiac
#

it looks like this

#

like verything on one point

gaunt moat
#

i can't really understand anything from the image. that's not even vendetta.
try reimporting it.

fringe zodiac
#

okay

exotic glen
#

aggramar being removed from all stars lol

gaunt moat
#

flowi cheezed too much?

exotic glen
#

more like top 100 is 98 affli locks and 2 sps

void pecan
#

more like

#

afflict lock

#

constant corruption.

#

on all the adds.

#

pfft.

winged parrot
#

feelsbadman

#

Varim mythic

void pecan
#

15s one cast?

exotic glen
#

boss parried it

merry zinc
#

Hey guys, is the 4p 2p bracers+boots not that good anymore? and why? just noticed its not pinned anymore

winged parrot
#

It parried my 2nd

#

But the boss was facing away

viscid helm
void pecan
#

Cheese lord Flowi

#

with alac.

#

making aggramar not count.

fringe zodiac
#

oh i've forgotten to download core for all specs i just downloaded assasination

exotic glen
#

lul

merry zinc
#

no idea anyone? or did i miss a pin or something?

strange python
#

havent played a rogue since my glad/slayer/hemo days in BC... leveling in legion asassination, having a pretty annoying time, feels super weak. I was leveling outlaw but swapped over to ass in order to get used to the rotation

void pecan
#

because item level

#

if it sims higher, use it

strange python
#

Should I just go back to outlaw to level or stick it out?

exotic glen
#

no many people have high ilvl t20

#

not*

gaunt moat
#

heh i read that as "not many people have high IQ 20"

merry zinc
#

allright thanks

void pecan
#

I know someone in here who has

#

20 IQ.

merry zinc
#

but 4pc t21 with boots+bracers can still be viable/better than shoulders with high ilvl?

exotic glen
#

its not notter

#

dont you dare say that

void pecan
#

anything can be viable at high enough item level

#

best bet is to sim it and see what's beeest

gaunt moat
#

Rabbits are very smart. The incredible thing about rabbits is their uncanny ability to listen. They will come to you and empathize so I found myself telling my 17 year old Flemish giant my worst fears--always coming away from the session calmer, and ready for positive action.

manic vigil
merry zinc
#

allright, so i dont need to feel bad for getting that 980 shoulders from the first boss

warm parcel
#

They also eat their own shit twice

umbral grail
#

Just leveled a rogue guys and my first legendary is the ringer that grants vigor ..what talent should i use in that row then?

exotic glen
#

deeper stratagem

vapid moth
#

wtf

#

just ran a +17 maw. the 960 druid was pulling less than 1mil consistently

umbral grail
#

thanks @exotic glen

exotic glen
#

np

vapid moth
#

that really annoys me

#

god damn last tiem i recruit a balance druid

void pecan
#

I mean, did you do more than 1.3mil? πŸ™ƒ

vapid moth
#

yes. and itd be nice if we could stop reflecting on that fight

void pecan
tender grove
#

Hello guys! im new to the discord and Assasination rogue. can i ask questions here?

void pecan
#

No

#

❀

tender grove
#

awh 😦

void pecan
#

Most questions are covered in the guide

#

which is in the pins? I think.

#

also linked at the top of discord

#

For real though, you can ask questions

exotic glen
#

the channel is mostly used for questions that are not answered in the guide or pins

void pecan
#

look over the pins and guide before you do though

supple hearth
#

@tender grove btw yes you can ask questions just make sure you read the resources first

#

To avoid memes

#

Basically what everyone said before me ROFL

void pecan
#

.>

civic palm
#

The rest of the time the channel is used for dating advice.

void pecan
#

Solid, usable dating advice.

#

πŸ‘Œ

safe matrix
#

But tom got hit by a car

#

Tbh I think he can swing sympathy in his favor

void pecan
#

wat

#

I must've missed stuff between 4pm yesterday and now

civic palm
#

Yeah no kidding.

safe matrix
#

Tom is going on a date with a pretty Israeli girl

#

Got hit by a car yesterday

void pecan
#

the car part

#

yeah.

#

Dang.

civic palm
#

pfffffffffffffffffffftHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

shrewd oriole
#

argus down

#

finally

#

lmao

void pecan
#

gz

#

now tell me about you getting hit by a car.

#

before your date

#

today?

shrewd oriole
#

date's tomorrow ahaha

quick talon
#

wait

#

whats the car thing

void pecan
#

THat's what I'm saying

#

supposedly he got hit

exotic glen
#

he got hit by a car

#

what other info do you need

quick talon
#

Oh i thought

#

she got hit

exotic glen
#

no, it was tom

quick talon
#

rather die than going on a date with tom

#

meh

exotic glen
#

LOL

shrewd oriole
#

ahahaha

#

I got hit

#

: (

viscid helm
#

gratz

civic palm
#

It would be funnier if she got hit by a car as well though.

#

SIN nerfs on BfA.

shrewd oriole
#

ahaha

civic palm
#

ENV up, builders down.

void pecan
#

I'm not worrying/caring about anything BfA until late beta.

civic palm
#

Yeah but paying attention to the direction of changes helps with feedback.

void pecan
#

Bliz caring about feedback.

civic palm
#

They do, get off that stupid train.

#

Just don't ask them to change the time of day.

viscid helm
#

They dont

exotic glen
#

knowing what the iterations of a spec looks like and what changes blizzard makes on ptr will paint you a pretty good picture for what it will be like in the end

viscid helm
#

any valid feedback would be buried under the 100k LFR heroes who cry about the class

civic palm
#

Yeah you don't need to follow literally everything, but some changes are important.

#

That is true Flowi, that is truuuuue.

celest mirage
#

how many add phases are there on hc kin?

void pecan
#

same as.. any other

civic palm
#

So yeah either CT didn't work with DS or the tooltip was incomplete, fixed now though, so o0o0o0o0ooooo

void pecan
#

generally 2/3

celest mirage
#

should u save vend for each one?

void pecan
#

I just blow my load in the opener

#

but it depends on the rest of your groups damage.

viscid helm
#

you save vanish and vendetta

tender grove
#

is subterfuge better for m+? couse you can garrote multible mobs everytime you can stealth, so every trash pack. sorry if it's an stupid question

void pecan
#

depends on how high a key really.

#

mobs generally melt

exotic glen
#

not necessarily

#

most trash packs in m+ are so big that using garrote is not really the best idea

quick talon
#

imagine wasting your 5 sec shoulder to apply garrotes

void pecan
#

^ and that

civic palm
#

Depends on the dungeon and group experience I imagine.

#

If you need to carry the tank multiple targeted silences are dope, but you should really just worry about damage > _>

tender grove
#

Ait thanks guys ^^ new to rogue, sorry. im trying to read up as much as i can

exotic glen
#

no prob dude, come in anytime you feel like

tender grove
#

kinky

civic palm
#

Unless we're talking about some nasty shit.

tender grove
#

heh

civic palm
#

Like...

void pecan
#

kid breaking both arms?

quick talon
#

πŸ‘€

civic palm
#

your mother helping you with your sexual frustrations due to a catastrophic series of physical injuries.

exotic glen
#

"i know why you're frustrated son"

void pecan
#

iWIn was all about that talk

exotic glen
#

these words are forever imprinted in my mind

quick talon
#

You guys getting me hard again

fringe zodiac
void pecan
#

Delete your account

quick talon
#

JΓ€gerlehrer

fringe zodiac
#

thanks pal

civic palm
#

Why'd that take so long to load?! Anyway...

void pecan
#

looks like a wa?

civic palm
#

go into WA and highlight everything until that one shows up.

void pecan
#

that's not hidden out of combat

civic palm
#

then right click and delete it.

fringe zodiac
#

seems like a pretty smart attempt

civic palm
#

Probably has a similar icon in WeakAuras

#

If you want it not loaded go into LOAD after you have selected the WA and click the thing you want it to do.

void pecan
#

Or is that a.. rotation addon?

civic palm
#

I could see that.

#

No DP.

#

Hey...

#

No DP.

#

NO DP

#

NO...DP

fringe zodiac
#

nope its wa from notters it worked

civic palm
#

What a shitter that Notter is.

void pecan
#

not making his WA work out of the box.

#

gotta disable shit..

#

ugh.

fringe zodiac
#

disgusting

civic palm
#

What is he the new lead DEV for DeadlyBossMods?!

quick talon
civic palm
#

A game about...

#

being in the dark.

#

I was going to fucking die if you had just...

#

linked to Slay the Spire.

quick talon
#

hah

#

by now everbody in RH should be playing STS

civic palm
#

No thanks :3

void pecan
#

Have not.

quick talon
#

yea few exceptions

civic palm
#

Maybe when there are a few more characters.

#

Not very interesting atm.

quick talon
#

p hyped about the 3rd character

#

hopefully coming soon

civic palm
#

It also has the Torchlight 2 problem,

#

it's way too easy to become broken.

quick talon
#

oh

dire spoke
vapid moth
#

lmao they changed venemous wounds in the alpha. now gives 7 energy instead of 12. was wondering how long that would be OP

civic palm
#

It's 7 now > _>

molten flicker
#

β™Ώ @gilded lark

violet elm
#

hey guys

void pecan
#

Give me your gear.

#

Thanks

violet elm
#

do you envenom at 4 cmb?

#

or always 5?

void pecan
#

4+

violet elm
#

ok ty

exotic glen
#

some guy applied saying "im bored of aggramar progress in my guild"

#

little did he know we used almost the entire night on aggramar today

molten flicker
#

hc right?

#

that's what my guild does

exotic glen
#

m

molten flicker
#

we are 11/11 btw

exotic glen
#

same

molten flicker
#

hc aggramar still walls us

exotic glen
#

yeah but its like

#

we killed m argus, so he probably thinks we cakewalk aggramar

#

except we dont

fringe zodiac
molten flicker
#

the fuck is that screenshot made of

fringe zodiac
#

i've no idea why it takes ages

molten flicker
#

do u have it as an enemy debuff

#

instead of a player buff

#

?

exotic glen
#

is that the rupture above sprint and energy bar?

civic palm
#

Looks like Garrote.

shrewd oriole
#

got a new name

#

fitting of today and tomorrow

exotic glen
#

its fucking impossible to see man

civic palm
#

Yeah well it ain't my WA > _>

fringe zodiac
#

nah thats garrote

#

rupture should be right of it

#

yeah its hard to see

drifting crypt
#

@shrewd oriole that name suggests you hit the girl with your car πŸš“

void pecan
#

ha

civic palm
#

Yeeaaahhhh...

#

hmmm

fringe zodiac
#

oh i fixxed it by writing the trigger in german

civic palm
#

Yeah the clients matter as well.

#

usually if you use the number for the spell and not the name it works as well.

#

Since AFAIK the spell ID's don't change with region.

vapid moth
#

im at the point where +15 dont provide anything to the score but im not able to get into +19s for that extra loot. should i just suck it up and do a few 17-18s instead?

civic palm
#

You should just do what you are capable of doing.

vapid moth
#

im very capable of 19s

civic palm
#

#lameAnswer

stray egret
#

Are you just going for score?

void pecan
#

then make your own groups if you cant get into any pugs.

vapid moth
#

im having bad luck with recrutiing today. you know that ganan

#

fucking 1mill dps druid

void pecan
#

recruiting?

#

or

#

pugging

vapid moth
#

im really going for loot Fokboi

#

pugging as lead

void pecan
#

do you have the

stray egret
#

What keys are you running

vapid moth
#

i look them up individually on the site

void pecan
#

and that guy still did only 1mil

#

unfortunate.

vapid moth
#

yeah

stray egret
#

tbh Spamming 15-17s is probably fastest loot

#

Idk though

#

I push higher keys for score and the loot just comes

vapid moth
#

not when youre pugging

stray egret
#

What loot are you after?

#

Anything specific

vapid moth
#

i have something to gain from about half the dungeons

stray egret
#

I spammed uppers for a week straight and did over 30 and I was able to 3 chest almost every one

#

Sin carrys upper keys hard

vapid moth
#

true

stray egret
#

If you are strictly going for loot

vapid moth
#

dungeons like upper dont feel like theyd need much more effort to do a 19 instead of a 15 though.

stray egret
#

Upper is not bad to run

#

Yeah I ran like any upper key I could

#

It drops a nice belt and EoC obviously and a MA relic

vapid moth
#

yeah

void pecan
#

run that DHT for that neck

#

++

vapid moth
#

Halls has that nice ring

urban storm
#

upper is great on most keys, and obivously super great on fortified weeks

stray egret
#

I ran over 30, and I never saw an EoC and then my buddy came for 2 runs and got 2 in a row

#

DHT is also really good

#

Although if you don't have a good group doing 18+ can be hard, because people are dumb on the last 2 bosses

#

DHT has 2 rings, 1 is really good and that really good neck too

vapid moth
#

gets rejected from +16 upper

void pecan
#

The struggle.

gaunt moat
#

@quick talon add me on steam

#

also no haven't played that game, it just came out today, but i probably will

violet elm
#

anyone know why my envenom dmg is so low compared to other rogues?

#

on one pull im at 40 m while the other is at 60m

#

id thiink im doing anything wrong

exotic glen
#

thats really hard to know without log examples dude

dire spoke
gaunt moat
#

@shrewd oriole i'm not a fan of this name

exotic glen
#

wonder why

gaunt moat
#

i fixed it for you

dire spoke
#

ahahah

civic palm
#

I mean those are his hopes, I hope.

void pecan
#

^^^

civic palm
#

Yeah it could have been 2.12M dps > _>

dire spoke
#

πŸ‘Ί

cerulean ingot
#

Hey guys, I have assasination rogue 933 ilvl but I can't keep him above the 700k dps . (no set bonuses - bad leggys the on from quest and the kiljaeden burning wish trinket) even if I read all the guides the site

#

Any tips?

dire spoke
#

get gear and don't expect rogue to be master dps class 🀷

civic palm
#

More Time and Effort.

void pecan
#

Git gud

cerulean ingot
#

So it's only the gear huh?

civic palm
#

No.

#

Moreso, we can't know that from what you have said.

#

Throw your character through Raidbots and see if it only generates 700k

strange python
#

no more combo points. deal with it

civic palm
#

If you are getting more out of Raidbots than you are doing on something like Normal or Heroic Gorathi then there is some execution that can be improved.

cerulean ingot
#

What's Raidbots ? Sorry for stupid questions

strange python
#

do you have logs Omaleni

cerulean ingot
#

No

#

Oh nice

#

Ima get a heartattack

civic palm
#

Without data we cannot know what the problem is to assist you in getting better. Seeing if you are even getting near your potential single target DPS is a good start.

strange python
#

what is your character name? chances are you have logs but you just don;t know where to look

cerulean ingot
#

Coolio thanks

#

Pickasledja

void pecan
#

server

cerulean ingot
#

Sylvanas

void pecan
#

region?