#assassination
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915 singed lmao
i am
Yeah I have a 995 golg and a 935 urn
i have 12 blessings 
i have mastery stat stick 910
whats the urn again?
sw sucks on assa yeah_
mastery stat stick
The mastery stat stick from kara
dankest mastery stick
ow then
aoe = urn + shadow
st = golg + shadow
eoc can probably compare to shadow singed fangs in your st
so id say sim that
well
i got 945 shadow singed fang + socket
and i think my 940 eoc is better for st
so id say in your case, they are also very close
i feel like im better sticking outlaw for m+
just need mythic dogs trinket, but it never drops
assa seems kinda weak
Yeah same my 935 doc Sims better than my 950 fang but that's at 5 mins... I need to SIM it at around 2 mins for mythic +
20mil crits 
Eoc
just lean to eoc is you stick to the target
short question. Got two relics with both Master Assassin in NC Tier 3. Why does if i skill both its a dmg loss for me?
and dogs tirnket if you switch
Yeah you're prob right...1 to 2% max
What is going on with varimathras m logs
I use a 975 mine trinket π
Oh yeah a other thing...I've been using my 945 fire mines trinket for the mastery...curious if that's better than the 930 mast stat stick
a fat no
the mines do no dmg man
Yeah I was not using it for the mast then the mines
i think i threw a 930 away when i was sub :S
Oh that sucks lol

deja vu
pugging past 6/9 mythic tos, gl
Yeah I miss the burst air of sub but like my boss damage more on mythic plus
Reasons why Im a hoarder of gear
Aoe
Yeah been running mythic tos and groups never get past maiden
I've been a lazy sin as well
But now I'm back to sub for m+
im not even trying maiden anymore
Got a 935 glaives with a socket though out of it
stuck with t20 for aoe sub until the end of expansion
Just make your guild run it 
Too much work to pug maiden +
make my guild run it
Everybody loves tos right
good one bru
I still need a good shoulder t20

proc never happened at convenient times for me
ow sin
Coven lol
I have terrible
luck tho
Engine proccs left and right idk
it's good in general with strong t20 pieces
I love it, screw mantle
I kept passing on it when we were in tos as a guild thinking I've got my leggos shoulders I'll never use these as sub smh
i should try it today on coven then
I wouldn't just use it in coven
Since if you have two 950 t20 pieces it's probably the best option in general
you should probably sim it
yep
i see why its better on 2 targets
Yeah I screwed myself cause I switched late to my rogue was raining a dh for most of the xpac but thought the new tier would suck for dhs so I switched to rogue lol
Maining
yes
It's not necessary but why wouldn't you run subterfuge if it's better?
fwiw I'm pretty sure subterfuge is the best option for any setup with bracers but without shoulders
Dh is good, in eonar π
Oh I still run my dh and have been kicking myself the more geared he gets lol
Love playing the new build just thought man they are gonna suck st...boy was I wrong
They still do really well
I'd they get the crit that is
If*
I see nelbur I'll def try that out
@bold dune shush
I want to go boots/bracer too but anything i sim, shoulder/bracer is king
hey tumna if you wanna have my rogue spot in HC it's available now lol
Negative
interesting
Yeah that makes sense gogi
Tumna
Jose
Same for me
do you want spec colour
that's the best I can do
Hm
you are now bleedy boiye

What Sims higher subterfuge or nightstalker gogi?
I'm certain that with boots+bracers subterfuge will sim higher
Yeah I'm not home so I can't check It, but you're prob right nelbur
tbh
aside from speedy stealth
(which doesn't matter)
I don't really care for nightstalker anyway
but i use it rn because it sims higher
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I liked the t20 garrote-y playstyle
subterfuge for 2targets
speedy stealth tho
I don't run NS as much anymore but I'm pretty sure you can still get cancelled prematurely by golg's
i guess my 980 vicious flamepaws make me not sim boots lego high
which was why I hated it when I was exclusively running shoulders
and yeah that's probably true gogi
Haha 980 you schmuck
this is so wierd
legendary setup is contingent on what offpieces are available
heh
π€
With shoulders/wrists??
What about for dogs??? Or is that just stack em and let pb carry you?
fascinating
I probably wouldn't run anything but shoulders in your case lol
with NS ofc
yeah for st its still tp 21
its just this
some top logs on coven do use t20
but they use boots
but boots don't top sim for me xD
BUT
its coven
you can't assume ill garrote them on cd
i have to play the mechanics
Yeah true
soooooooo
the more i fuck up
the worse this gets right?
i guess for parse, i should switch
but realisticly
So with subterfuge and t20 do you just carrots off cool down or wait for it to almost fall off before reapplying
Stupid auto correct
Garrote
carrot off cd? no
π₯ off cooldown op
that would be like every 3 sec

Hahaha
subterfuge is only refreshed with vanish during pandemic of the previous.
π€
carrot then like 12 sec later vanish carrot
lol spamming carrot.
Hah
π
No, bad notter. You can't have the carrots
stop memeing without me
Ok so just to be clear lol cause I only started playing assassination rogue recently was sub before that...you don't just spam carrot off cool down but do you wait for it to have 7 or 8 secs left before reapplying it?? Lol
always spam carrot
Garrote is officially carrot from now on lol
yes, to extend it with pandemic
This is gonna be a thing now isn't it
Hahaha ues!!!
@versed abyss there's more details about it in the guide + my WAs linked in the pins have a glow to tell you when to refresh carrot
also great way to never use your carrot again ganandor


Oh nice yeah I'll check that out mother thanks!!
Son of a!!
mother π€
Notter = mother 
I quit lol
fuck me
Mother of Carrots
shit cache
....
mommy bunny
this is just the beginning
Hahahaha my auto correct is screwing everything up
MAss πͺ
welcome to my world
mass malch or it's shit Kappa
welcome to bobs and vegana
rank 19 aggra with exsang
without touching adds
this is the truly sad relic

oh wow
naya is playing monk in Tom's heroic pugs 
lul
That master of shadows thou

THE cybrix is parsing gray
he's legit famous in poe
what a god
Lol
Do you know a person who's more low-energy than kripp?
Wasn't cybrix the pizza guy
Kripp with that elbow always in the air
probably cause of vegan diet

Low energy, vegan superpower
it's killing him

you have to die and be reborn with superpowers for vegan diet to take effect
Chaotic sorrows π€’

and be israeli
ye
So Kripp = Jesus?
the rebound day

oh yeah btw, israeli girls love man musk, so don't shower or put deordorant
hahah

Lol
lmao
wearyour t20 you haven't washed in a while
your phromones will attract her
Nice "help" notter
he hyped us so much over the date
that if he fails. he's getting banned.
Sounds like fair punishment
Guys on Imonar MYTHIC - boots is better right?
: (
but more uptime on vandetta?
shoulders are probably better
but i got rank 1 on it with boots... so... whatever you feel more comfortable playing
depends on your MAss
you try writing in hebrew unimatrix π¦

they're okay.
too much haste
@brave abyss stats are what sim will tell you works best
but generally you want mastery and crit.
with shoulders crit is less valued so seems fine.

I don't think you can even loot the others
Does look weird though
like the saturation is turned up
good

VITTU
good god
no
just
things
How do I play sin rogue?

@serene horizon SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
do i have 2 refresh my bleeds 2 activate the execute dmg ? or does the actual bleed get just buffed right away?
it's all about thicc kingsbane's
Hi coke!
π
does anyone know the answer to my question? :x
and what is the answer? π
idk
do i have 2 refresh or not?
you don't have to refresh
π hey chat, here is an answer for you π
^
bend over unimatrix

gigelbush 
snitches?
mother*
grayhound is too easy so I wont do that
lol
yo mom gray
need to disable reactions to jose
you know if broadsides sees this he'll say why are you spamming reactions when he got disabled for that
tbf I should remove all of it, it's off topic
and racist
what's racist
all shadowblades are outlaw players anyway

im so fucking bored atm
bored people get into trouble
if the boss is at like 35% and I have my cooldowns, should I be saving them for below 30% for bracers
Depends on the time till death too
@vernal adder play a different game
If you vanish at 35% and can fit a 2nd one on, yes. If not, no
slay the spire / darkest dungeon is what i do right now
Im not playing wow hardly at all atm
lurks
I meant to ask earlier since we were talking about subterfuge should I be taking that instead of nightstalker for mythic plus??
Nah
Bah spose I should go outside in the heat to actually work
Ok so its only 85 here with feel like near 90, so its cool but still
Florida
US's sweaty testicle
29 is real temp, feel like is 32
Imperial system btw 
june temps all year
I would hate to have summer all year around
I enjoy not having to deal with snow
But I remember when weβd at least have a couple months of decently lower temps
I find living in a place where it gets cold does a good job of keeping a lot of people away
which is nice
Yea
but then you have to live in the cold π¦
you only have to deal w/ old people for about 1/4 of the year though
Cuz dealing with snow is miserable. And Iβve never lived anywhere but FL
so it's not bad
don is an old person
wow half in the ground
Lol
so im semi ancient at 26
around 30 I started feeling old
and having weird thoughts like
huh, crazy, that dude died at 60
my life could be half over
etc
So
I stopped thinking about my age after 23 lol
im 12
gz on 50
Btw 
what even is the min age for discord
13 in may
Lol 12. Frames the insults and conversations well.
Noobe you are poopyhead π π
Not specifically any one person but the age range is pretty substantial
Noobe what leggos do you use in your bleed build? Bracers boots?
my grandfather died at 52, and i'm 33... I feel ya there Don jose.
fuck it, wear that shit
I'd say that too Ram but his company recently downsized and he dodged it
Β―_(γ)_/Β―

brothers
Civil engineers have more Cred with dirty boots.
that would make you Ion
It's not always a bad thing.
we could have like
a Father-Son-Holy Spirit thing going
Ion is the Father, Bruen his misbegotten Son, and i'm the holy spirit of Combat Rouge
the deadly makeup rogue
I died for your poison bombs my children
guess Ion is the resto shammy all father
Ankh, the ultimate defensive cooldown
:ionchamp:
wonder if he thought to himself when he said that: "Like fuck it is"
:thionking:
I think he doesn't think much when he's talking in the Q&A, like he thinks of an initial response
dang
but then he starts kinda wandering
as an expert (obviously) on Ion Q&A's I feel qualified to analyze them
I should log how often he moves his hands/speaks with his hands
analyze it a la WCL
make it a drinking game
rip liver
You might need to go to the ER for alcohol poisoning tho
"Man his parse for this latest Q&A was unreal, did you see his uptime on not-blinking?"
"500 All-star points for each time he avoids answering a controversial question/topic"
That makes me very uncomfortable.
ion destroying the scale with those all-star points
"1000 all-star points for every time he and lore increase the tension in the room with a mutual look that lasts just a second too long"
exactly
Atleast we donβt threaten minors in here haHAA

At least there's no swastikas today.
don't get me started
That's a take on the name
haw
His
Giggleblush you mean?
Dunn Hose will sort it
Fail
Yep
WOW
Wow
TOX INS
?
banned 
π
if only there was an alpha channel 
π€
I just got 980 set gloves
id link a picture but gigel will delet it
guess I'm not playing anything other than mantle bracers this content
exsang will be king
Toph be happy you didn't get 980 set shoulders
venomous wounds including internal bleeding, garote or rupture hmmmm
@hoary copper you forgot 1min evasion.
ah I missed that
Why was marked for death even a talent for sin? Something where the majority of damage comes from ticks
Sintlety Rouge
why with the foot i sim more dps ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iAhV3R71XfThf2BSdA5trF
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x7hAfgZgSvhNbF3nTY66xx
@vapid moth I'm sure on some level in like M+ you could maybe farm M4D for PB procs but ultimately that's going to fail
i need help deciding a legendary combo because i don't have mantle bracers
reroll Afflic
what you got?
Thoughts on shoulders vs boots for mythic argus?
@pure ingot
i have both rings
Oh I'm stealing the hell out of that gif
shadow and insignia
i have legs
and the crafted bootds
boots*
i have the shadowblade ring and the insignia
for rings
and will of val for legs
and crafted boots and i dont know what to run
you can sim for the best combo using best in bag or whatever its called
top gear
ye prob 2 rings but sim that shite
alright i dont know how to sim
anyone know recent youtube or streamer who does M+ as sin
i looked bu ti can only find sub, or mostly other classes
rip mantle
lol
Top gear you will need the simulationcraft addon and then use /simc and go to www.raidbots.com/simbot and find top gear and copy and paste that info in and select the pieces. @pure ingot
Thoughts on shoulders vs boots for mythic argus? some seem to go for boots while most go shoulders
@grim canopy infexious he's a shadow blade in here.
yea idk about rip mantle
I got 985 gorathi shoulders and I still play mantle on most fights
boots bracers sim higher on 5min patchwork but unless the fight length is just right it turns out to be garbo
vanish double pb ftw
Well mantle also gets cucked depending on the fightlength
@pure ingot Simming your gear and stat weights is a pretty easy and powerful way to know how to advance your character. You can sim which stats you need, optimal gear and talent set ups, and theoretical dps.
How to:
- download the simcraft add on from either twitch or https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simulationcraft
- Type /simc in game which pulls up a window of text, copy this text.
- Go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot pick what you want to sim and paste into the sim box.
- (Optional) change sim options to do AoE or change fight length.
- Hit sim and get your results.
Just recently capped my sin rogue, simming at about 1.2mil with t21 2pc, crafted boot leggo, and shit trinkets (941 ilvl overall). How much dps gain can I expect to see when I finish 4pc, and how big of an impact are BiS leggos?
Short answer: big impact
ye
haha that's what I thought
Long answer: big impacto
big impact, its impossible to give you a exact number without simming your character
hey guys could you recommend me a good guide to keep track on rupture, garrote and envenom
I have no set items at all and just some weird leggos
I went with boot leggo over free argus ring since I could stack mastery gems in it lol
sorry yeah i mean an addon
weak auras
what does rogue do better than ww monk, more surviblilty?
yes
cloak-evasion-cheat death
Fucking monk just has karma and the 2 minute 50% reduction cd
are we still doing 4xt21 and 2xt20?
If it sims the highest for you, sure
!relics
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
What is that shit
what do you mean
its garbage is what it is
you don't know DFA is the new meta?
cmon notter
Subtlination
nogger
toxic blade buffs dfa envenom ofc
exactly, it quadruple dips
hey so i copied notters string from http://www.ravenholdt.net/rogue-weakauras/ and pasted it int into wa ingame however if i start a fight at the dummy it only shows the vendetta timer
i know it might be a silly question
but did you use any other cooldowns?
and, if you did
maybe try removing everything (right click on the group and choose "delete with children")
and import again
make sure it's not clicked to.. hide? Not load? Something like that under the load tab
i can't really understand anything from the image. that's not even vendetta.
try reimporting it.
okay
aggramar being removed from all stars lol
flowi cheezed too much?
more like top 100 is 98 affli locks and 2 sps
15s one cast?
boss parried it
Hey guys, is the 4p 2p bracers+boots not that good anymore? and why? just noticed its not pinned anymore
oh i've forgotten to download core for all specs i just downloaded assasination
lul
no idea anyone? or did i miss a pin or something?
havent played a rogue since my glad/slayer/hemo days in BC... leveling in legion asassination, having a pretty annoying time, feels super weak. I was leveling outlaw but swapped over to ass in order to get used to the rotation
Should I just go back to outlaw to level or stick it out?
heh i read that as "not many people have high IQ 20"
allright thanks
but 4pc t21 with boots+bracers can still be viable/better than shoulders with high ilvl?
anything can be viable at high enough item level
best bet is to sim it and see what's beeest
Rabbits are very smart. The incredible thing about rabbits is their uncanny ability to listen. They will come to you and empathize so I found myself telling my 17 year old Flemish giant my worst fears--always coming away from the session calmer, and ready for positive action.

allright, so i dont need to feel bad for getting that 980 shoulders from the first boss
They also eat their own shit twice
Just leveled a rogue guys and my first legendary is the ringer that grants vigor ..what talent should i use in that row then?
deeper stratagem
thanks @exotic glen
np
I mean, did you do more than 1.3mil? π
yes. and itd be nice if we could stop reflecting on that fight
Hello guys! im new to the discord and Assasination rogue. can i ask questions here?
awh π¦
Most questions are covered in the guide
which is in the pins? I think.
also linked at the top of discord
For real though, you can ask questions
the channel is mostly used for questions that are not answered in the guide or pins
look over the pins and guide before you do though
@tender grove btw yes you can ask questions just make sure you read the resources first
To avoid memes
Basically what everyone said before me ROFL
.>
The rest of the time the channel is used for dating advice.
Yeah no kidding.
pfffffffffffffffffffftHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
date's tomorrow ahaha
no, it was tom
LOL
gratz
ahaha
ENV up, builders down.
I'm not worrying/caring about anything BfA until late beta.
Yeah but paying attention to the direction of changes helps with feedback.
Bliz caring about feedback.
They dont
knowing what the iterations of a spec looks like and what changes blizzard makes on ptr will paint you a pretty good picture for what it will be like in the end
any valid feedback would be buried under the 100k LFR heroes who cry about the class
Yeah you don't need to follow literally everything, but some changes are important.
That is true Flowi, that is truuuuue.
how many add phases are there on hc kin?
same as.. any other
So yeah either CT didn't work with DS or the tooltip was incomplete, fixed now though, so o0o0o0o0ooooo
generally 2/3
should u save vend for each one?
you save vanish and vendetta
is subterfuge better for m+? couse you can garrote multible mobs everytime you can stealth, so every trash pack. sorry if it's an stupid question
not necessarily
most trash packs in m+ are so big that using garrote is not really the best idea
imagine wasting your 5 sec shoulder to apply garrotes
^ and that
Depends on the dungeon and group experience I imagine.
If you need to carry the tank multiple targeted silences are dope, but you should really just worry about damage > _>
Ait thanks guys ^^ new to rogue, sorry. im trying to read up as much as i can
no prob dude, come in anytime you feel like
kinky
Unless we're talking about some nasty shit.
heh
Like...
kid breaking both arms?
π
your mother helping you with your sexual frustrations due to a catastrophic series of physical injuries.
"i know why you're frustrated son"
iWIn was all about that talk
these words are forever imprinted in my mind
You guys getting me hard again
uhm any idea how to remove this? https://prnt.sc/iihtcf
Delete your account
JΓ€gerlehrer
thanks pal
Why'd that take so long to load?! Anyway...
looks like a wa?
go into WA and highlight everything until that one shows up.
that's not hidden out of combat
then right click and delete it.
seems like a pretty smart attempt
Probably has a similar icon in WeakAuras
If you want it not loaded go into LOAD after you have selected the WA and click the thing you want it to do.
Or is that a.. rotation addon?
nope its wa from notters it worked
What a shitter that Notter is.
disgusting
What is he the new lead DEV for DeadlyBossMods?!
@gaunt moat http://store.steampowered.com/app/323220/?snr=1_5_9__205 played that one?
A game about...
being in the dark.
I was going to fucking die if you had just...
linked to Slay the Spire.
No thanks :3
Have not.
yea few exceptions

lmao they changed venemous wounds in the alpha. now gives 7 energy instead of 12. was wondering how long that would be OP
It's 7 now > _>
hey guys
4+
ok ty
some guy applied saying "im bored of aggramar progress in my guild"
little did he know we used almost the entire night on aggramar today
m
we are 11/11 btw
same
hc aggramar still walls us
yeah but its like
we killed m argus, so he probably thinks we cakewalk aggramar
except we dont
everything works perfect but for some reason it wont show the rupture debuff above the energy bar https://prnt.sc/iii5ry
the fuck is that screenshot made of
i've no idea why it takes ages
is that the rupture above sprint and energy bar?
Looks like Garrote.
its fucking impossible to see man
Yeah well it ain't my WA > _>
@shrewd oriole that name suggests you hit the girl with your car π
ha
oh i fixxed it by writing the trigger in german
Yeah the clients matter as well.
usually if you use the number for the spell and not the name it works as well.
Since AFAIK the spell ID's don't change with region.
im at the point where +15 dont provide anything to the score but im not able to get into +19s for that extra loot. should i just suck it up and do a few 17-18s instead?
You should just do what you are capable of doing.
im very capable of 19s
#lameAnswer
Are you just going for score?
then make your own groups if you cant get into any pugs.
im having bad luck with recrutiing today. you know that ganan
fucking 1mill dps druid
What keys are you running
i look them up individually on the site
yeah
tbh Spamming 15-17s is probably fastest loot
Idk though
I push higher keys for score and the loot just comes
not when youre pugging
i have something to gain from about half the dungeons
I spammed uppers for a week straight and did over 30 and I was able to 3 chest almost every one
Sin carrys upper keys hard
true
If you are strictly going for loot
dungeons like upper dont feel like theyd need much more effort to do a 19 instead of a 15 though.
Upper is not bad to run
Yeah I ran like any upper key I could
It drops a nice belt and EoC obviously and a MA relic
yeah
Halls has that nice ring
upper is great on most keys, and obivously super great on fortified weeks
I ran over 30, and I never saw an EoC and then my buddy came for 2 runs and got 2 in a row
DHT is also really good
Although if you don't have a good group doing 18+ can be hard, because people are dumb on the last 2 bosses
DHT has 2 rings, 1 is really good and that really good neck too
gets rejected from +16 upper
The struggle.
@quick talon add me on steam
also no haven't played that game, it just came out today, but i probably will
anyone know why my envenom dmg is so low compared to other rogues?
on one pull im at 40 m while the other is at 60m
id thiink im doing anything wrong
thats really hard to know without log examples dude
@shrewd oriole https://snag.gy/oVZIFx.jpg
@shrewd oriole i'm not a fan of this name
wonder why
i fixed it for you
ahahah
I mean those are his hopes, I hope.
^^^
Yeah it could have been 2.12M dps > _>
πΊ
Hey guys, I have assasination rogue 933 ilvl but I can't keep him above the 700k dps . (no set bonuses - bad leggys the on from quest and the kiljaeden burning wish trinket) even if I read all the guides the site
Any tips?
get gear and don't expect rogue to be master dps class π€·
More Time and Effort.
Git gud
So it's only the gear huh?
No.
Moreso, we can't know that from what you have said.
Throw your character through Raidbots and see if it only generates 700k
If you are getting more out of Raidbots than you are doing on something like Normal or Heroic Gorathi then there is some execution that can be improved.
What's Raidbots ? Sorry for stupid questions
Without data we cannot know what the problem is to assist you in getting better. Seeing if you are even getting near your potential single target DPS is a good start.
what is your character name? chances are you have logs but you just don;t know where to look
server
Sylvanas
region?





