@opaque geyser whatcha mean
#assassination
shrewd oriole
opaque geyser
@shrewd oriole I mean if you can share a site or something that i can check the rotation of my dps abilities
shrewd oriole
Oh
Check pins there’s a guide there
And some neat weak auras that id recommend
I don’t use them but they’re not bad
molten flicker
opaque geyser
lol ok guys thank you
wind rain
rank 8 mythic agg with one fan cast, FeelsGoodMan
tulip grotto
wind rain
it dosent count
hazy flame
If eonar counted it would be aids
hazy flame
Well its the same for every class tbh
Its still something to keep you entertained
You still have to perform well rng doesnt carry you all the way all the time
viscid helm
Ofc it does
You clearly havent gone through r1 logs
The plays that people make are disgusting
Spmething youd expect from new player
But they got lucky pb
hazy flame
Rank 1 are usually outliers but you can easily top 10 most fights with a bit of luck and good play
Imo
viscid helm
Where did u find this
rain prawn
r1 argus
night vale
new meta?
rain prawn
subterfuge new meta confirmado
rain prawn
wrists boots
hazy flame
Subterfuge is likely better for him then
strange python
HEY IS NIGHTSTALKER BIS
hazy flame
Nightstalker is always from my experience better for shoulders
While subt can pull ahead without shoulders
gaunt moat
are you okay sir?
crystal fox
looks like tourettes
strange python
He's just spazzing, move along
inland furnace
who ate my ass?
strange python
not spazzing
just jazzing
👐
REAL TALK
80%+ Envenom uptime P GOOD ON WHITE TICHONDRIUS?
inland furnace
yea idiot main tich is black
safe matrix
Tich is the green I thought
I know he was the red one in WC3
or purple
I'll get back to you guys on that
yeah he's the red one
vari was purple
and detheroc was green
frozen pecan
ty for the info
I just genuinely thanked him for his research
I mean we all wanted to know and were glad he got back at us
frozen pecan
He's studying the colours of Tich isn't he?!
safe matrix
now I don't know what to study
cause I feel prepared
monkaS
I know I should study more
but meh
viscid helm
Diablo 
shrewd oriole
Diablo LUL
scarlet mantle
diablo really lol
shrewd oriole
Play poe nerds
viscid helm
Ohh wait
shrewd oriole
Way better game
scarlet mantle
diablo is fun until you get a full gear
viscid helm
There is never New content in diablo 
shrewd oriole
Top 3 players like flowi reccomend poe
frozen pecan
poe lul
viscid helm
I dont get how people can enjoy diablo anymore, i mean it was fine at the Start, but how is playing the same build every season fun
With no new content
frozen pecan
you can do grifts that's just like doing m+
eager kernel
viscid helm
Ey lemme play that charge barb again for the 9th season in row
shrewd oriole
LUL
viscid helm
Cos there is no variety
shrewd oriole
Poe is a rank 7 endorsed game
If you think pb is meaningful rng wait till you exalt % ipd and get a 600 Pdps one handed
LUL
frozen pecan
u whot mate
viscid helm
I like how like year ago or something, on the blizzcon floorplans, there was like minimal stage for diablo and it was placed right next to the toilets
gilded crow
poe is a great game :>
quick ice
see, you said some words there...
shrewd oriole
Exalting is adding a mod
Ipd is increased physical damage
600pdps is 600 physical dps
frozen pecan
and 600 pdps sucks right
shrewd oriole
Nah
frozen pecan
dayum
shrewd oriole
600 dps is a nuts weapon
Dunno
I love blizzard and Diablo bht poe is just a vastly superior game
viscid helm
Im still waiting for that 1200ipd 2 hander
viscid helm
Ye ur right i mean who cares about 1200ipd 2 hander when double poets pen deals more dmg
exotic glen
how was your date tom
safe matrix
It's only Thursday
gaunt moat
he means the practice date he did infront of a mirror
ivory leaf
Is there a mastery soft cap?
safe matrix
No
Short answer: no
Slightly less short answer: sim it cause you have to semi balance it out
ivory leaf
Any reason onwhy vers is simming a little bit better than mastery , i have 230% mast
safe matrix
Because vers is more effective at that level of mastery
Mastery doesn't have a cap persay, but you need to strike a sort of balance
ivory leaf
Ahh
safe matrix
Trust the sims 🤷
safe matrix
Yeah someone today switched their gear around to get 270% mastery or something
But it was like a pretty big dps loss
strange python
question, 4 piece is king minus shoulders for lego? or if i get wrist/ring lego bis then 4 piece?
or boots ring
quick ice
Depends
shrewd oriole
So uhm
safe matrix
4 piece is worth a lot
shrewd oriole
Riding bike back, this fucking 20 year old girl hits me super hard on the side
Nah I got lucky
My shoes got super dirty but I landed well
Gonna take a while to clean my shoes and I think my bike is damaged
quick ice
Push or motor?
safe matrix
@strange python sim combinations, but iirc class ring isn't that great for sin, most people run either boots/wrist or mantle/wrist, both with 4pc
Oh no
Your celebration shoes?
WHAT ABOUT THE SOCKS
ARE THE SOCKS OKAY???
strange python
i have mantle so im just waiting for the other lego to drop, I'd pre sim it to determine which is bis, thanks!
quick ice
That's what really matters
safe matrix
You bailing on your date, or you gonna use it to get sympathy sex?
signal summit
Good choise imo
safe matrix
"Yeah I got hit by a car" "where?" " well I gotta take off my shirt to show you"
shrewd oriole
😉
safe matrix
Then you secks her
safe matrix
Don't even talk to me about shitty driving
shrewd oriole
I was on a crosswalk
safe matrix
We had like two inches of snow fall today
shrewd oriole
clear as day
safe matrix
And oooooooh boy
shrewd oriole
she didnt even slow down
shrewd oriole
LUL
quick ice
I don't know what the law is where you are @shrewd oriole, but you're not really supposed to ride across crosswalks here
I think...
I get that one mixed up
signal summit
It was prob a dbl sided
shrewd oriole
nah you can count as a full pedestrian here
signal summit
For bikes aswell i guess
signal summit
Where u from liavre
quick ice
Bikes here have weird rules
safe matrix
Canada, Victoria bc
They travel on the road, take left turns in intersections
It's ducking stupid
quick ice
You can treat a red light as a give way sign, and a stop sign you can do a rolling stop
shrewd oriole
that's a bit silly yeah
shrewd oriole
might use it to get simpathy sushi tonight tho
safe matrix
And slower
shrewd oriole
r7 plays
quick ice
Actually wait no, don't tell your mum she'll worry
shrewd oriole
nah making my own sushi is culture appropriation
quick ice
And you shouldn't do that to her
quick ice
🤔
safe matrix
I can't culturally appropriate white things
median marsh
is there any reason you need to toxic blade before kingsbane in opener?
why not the other way around
shrewd oriole
TB improves KB initial damage
median marsh
well, fuck me, didn't even know kb has initial damage
spare cloud
You know now
safe matrix
I think my sleep schedule may be slightly messed up
exotic glen
did you die tom
ivory leaf
I thought we used TB when KB has 9 seconds left ?
exotic glen
yah
safe matrix
Although there is one r1 player who only does it for the last 8 seconds I think
But he's an outlier
safe matrix
Man I miss good sushi
exotic glen
"hi mom, i got hit by a car, btw can we have sushi for dinner"
safe matrix
All the sushi in Victoria is meh
shrewd oriole
@exotic glen I told her about the accident
safe matrix
But sushi in the Vancouver area is world class
shrewd oriole
then said "you know I just googled it and apparently sushi is really good for healing wounds : ) "
solid field
At least you got a nice sympathy story for tomorrow night, and a reason to show her your "hurt" spots
safe matrix
🤔
exotic glen
what are you gonna say when you arrive and she asks to see your wound tho
you said you didnt have any?
safe matrix
He probably has a couple bruises
shrewd oriole
she knows I was joking ahah
safe matrix
Maybe a scrape or two
shrewd oriole
think my back is gonna bruise
solid field
If it's like normal recovery you'll be your sorest in a couple days.
safe matrix
I need to rest, I'm breaking down
My body is falling apart
But it's 5am and I have a 10am midterm
solid field
Ouch,
safe matrix
I feel don't feel prepared, but I feel I know the material well
So I'm in this limbo of wanting to study, but not knowing what to study
solid field
Which class?
exotic glen
good luck birdman
safe matrix
Linear circuits 2
Which is meh
But then I also have another midterm Friday on digital signal processing
solid field
You getting an engineering degree?
safe matrix
Ye elec
safe matrix
One day I'm just gonna engineer a gun so I can kill myself
But not today, cause I'm gonna sleep for a couple hours
fiery merlin
@strange python hey grats buddy :)
Just move to America. No engineer required just max out a cc
fathom wyvern
Gotta switch to ME to do that sort of stuff
safe matrix
Use magnetics, design a railgun 🤷
fathom wyvern
Now your degree is in physics
safe matrix
You don't really need that much though
echo crest
Guys sry for bother you with some of probably most asked questions
safe matrix
You only need to understand lorentz forces
fiery merlin
Defy physics, create a portal gun and cancel them half way through
echo crest
1st one is if i have vendeta soon i should save KB and TB for vendeta or should only save TB ...
viscid helm
What is soon
frozen pecan
what's soon to you?
viscid helm
Depends on the situation as well
viscid helm
Not worth
strange python
Holding TB in 2018
echo crest
Uhm ok
the 2nd question is :
If TB is ready and KB is 5 sec less i should wait for KB right? If so then i should use TB right when i use KB or in last 9 sec of KB?
viscid helm
Playing TB in 2k18
solid field
unless you shoulders and bracers...
echo crest
Seems hard xD
strange python
🤔
echo crest
Yes that I understand
strange python
What does that have to do with TB 🤔
fathom wyvern
I’m guessing he’s asking what cds to hold/line up besides vanish/vendetta for 30%
fathom wyvern
Yes but this is showing the difference between knowing what someone said vs understanding
solid field
Good to know, thank you
acoustic mortar
The pinned guide implies a lot more min/maxing. I just started playing the spec myself. You really only need to worry about that specific leggo combo?
Otherwise use CDs when available?
frozen pecan
Use Toxic Blade either the last 8 seconds of Kingsbane duration or on cooldown. Do not delay your Toxic Blade more than 5 seconds waiting for Kingsbane. If Vendetta is coming up you can delay as well.
so you can delay 5 sec
acoustic mortar
Ok, simple enough. Delay if things line up nicely, basically.
echo crest
So aside from CDs that I think it's clear for me and bleeds refresh what can I focus to improve my dps
frozen pecan
read the section "openers and rotation" in the guide, or even better, read the whole thing
echo crest
I have read all 2 or 3 times
And some other guides too xD
Opener is ok too
The only thing I guess I can pay more attention is to keep envenom buff up out of kingsbane
In kb I pay attention to that
frozen pecan
see you answered your own question
acoustic mortar
If rupture is going to fall off in the middle of KB, should I rupture during KB or should I hold KB until after Rupture so I can safely spam Envenom?
stiff ridge
I make sure Rupture > 14 seconds before applying KB
So that may mean reapplying the rupture a bit earlier than expected
But it very rarely happens
acoustic mortar
Ok thanks!
shrewd oriole
not bad
viscid helm
No BB's
shrewd oriole
kek
strange python
Bb?
manic vigil
Have fun flowi 
viscid helm
i already know when that is going to happen
ez money for me
its a pattern
for the past few years
every single raid test
i get banned
manic vigil
Interesting. Is the feedback you are giving not in the polite manner they'd prefer?
shrewd oriole
LOL
manic vigil
shrewd oriole
why do u get unbanned tho
viscid helm
i post memes on the raid test threads
when blizzard wastes my time
with tests that never happen or are so broken you cant even pull
manic vigil
So I started leveling an alt on my new realm yesterday. And there was a dh oneshotting and spit emoting low level players in darkshire between his bgs I assume. Wtf is wrong with people on pvp servers 
solid field
Hopefully it was just a kid taking some frustration out.. I really hope an adult wouldn't do that.
manic vigil
Yeah it was kinda sad and funny at the same time
wraith saddle
I got camped by a dude on my lvl 30 alt 2 days in a row in the exact same spot
viscid helm
this is exactly what im gonna do in vanilla, level a rogue just so i can sit in STV and gank
only reason to play that shit
unreal coyote
those server will be alive for
like 3 months
TOPS
and then everyone will realize what a dumb fucking idea it was
and move on like most vanilla players have done already
unreal coyote
best ganking was tiny skelly noggenfogger ganking
in stv
i wonder if things will be bind on account
from vanilla servers
haha
zulian tiger...
hoary copper
Only reason I had a rogue in vanilla was to gank in STV
hoary copper
I liked the little camp at the far north, was fun when you were like in the 40s and could beat the low levels there and 60s would come and you would just blind or sap or stun and run away
vernal adder
was it tbc when mace pvp was the shit?
hoary copper
I forgot about that
hoary copper
stun mace
hoary copper
I pugged normal antorus last night, and felt like the kills were taking a while so I went and looked at the logs. Only one other person was parsing green or above for dps. No wonder it took a while, I was also one of the lower ilvl.
rapid flame
Hey lads, been wondering about assa openener on ravenholdt.net - garrote-muti-rupture-vendetta-tb-kb ??? - why use vendetta? You'll loose out on so much energy regen, especially with hero/bl on pull? Does the extra damage on tb/kb give better overall dmg on openener compared to using it later & getting more energy in return?
shrewd oriole
to buff the damage of ur tb and kb
rapid flame
It overrules the nergy return? Simply cause of the extra dmg gain?
manic vigil
So you are those kind of people huh? Tbf I tried ganking as well but I just can't 🤷 makes me feel bad. Stupid empathy 
hoary copper
Plus its only a 2 min cooldown so you can use it 2 or 3 times probably
rapid flame
Alright, good - was just curious
shrewd oriole
changing your opener to vendetta on pull, garrote muti rupture tb kb vanish
it's apparently a dps gain according to weak but I've never tried it
rapid flame
not only a 2 min cooldown, still got 910 convergence with socket 😒 along with my 990 argus trink 😒
viscid helm
i mean if you dont have mantle, the correct opener is actually vendetta as a first action
shrewd oriole
ye
rapid flame
i've got all legendaries for the 3 speccs since some time ago
was just curious as i thought the only reason to use vanish & cap that much on energy must be the % amplifier to tb/kb with mantle buff
use vendetta* sorry :b
shut pendant
I never even thought of vendetta on opener. I don’t have mantle. Will try it out. Thanks!
hoary copper
@shut pendant there's a good opener on the guide http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ which has both mantle and non mantle
potent lintel
So when fighting aggramar. If you have a rupture and garrote dot on agg when he goes in his shield the damage ticks waaaaay less damage and greatly decreases your DPS. How do you remedy that
hardy bluff
pew pew the ads instead
potent lintel
ya but when your ticking 1k damage that will bring down your average greatly. Can we remove dots during that phase?
drifting crypt
dont refresh your dots when he goes into intermission?
viscid helm
how is that in any way a problem?
spare cloud
Doesnt vendettaing with mantle on opener also bring a gain?
manic vigil
Wait what 
spare cloud
At least api plays it like that
manic vigil
You'd rather have no dmg than reduced dmg
spare cloud
*right on pull
spare cloud
Sim does it thats why is was wondering about flowi saying its just without mantle
manic vigil
Well flowi also says alacrity master race so there is that 
manic vigil
Someone post that meme flowi got banned for and insert "here is some alacrity for you flowi"
spare cloud
No it just sounded like a serious answer
manic vigil
I don't know actually
spare cloud
But well doesnt really matter now since the guy is gone anyways
warm parcel
F for flowi
manic vigil
I thought weak said it's a gain regardless
warm parcel
ven? ye
strange python
hi im new to rogue is there any tips like how much mastery i need etc
spare cloud
I mean you get it a little earlier and you got a few extra guaranteed crits
Also you dont need the energy anyways
hardy bluff
Ven>Garotte or like both at the same time
spare cloud
There is no real mastery cap or smth like that
spare cloud
Shouldnt really matter since garrote does no initial dmg
warm parcel
forgot they patched ven not breaking stealth
spare cloud
So at the same time is fine
If anything the first autohits go into it
Not a huge difference
strange python
do we need haste at all or is it garbage?
spare cloud
Its garbage
strange python
i golt too much lol
spare cloud
Check the guide in the pins
strange python
i always forget my poisons when they run out
manic vigil
What's the no mantle NS opener btw? Doesn't matter much but do I ven, garrote, muti, vanish rupture or apply rupture first without vanish and low cps. Don't see the point in doing the latter
spare cloud
Use a weakaura for that
hardy bluff
I reapply poisons after every wipe, helps me reset
spare cloud
Uni, do you sim higher without mantle and ns?
hollow junco
@strange python weakauras can be found here: http://www.ravenholdt.net/notters-rogue-weak-auras-compilation/
in the future you can find this information in the pins for this channel
manic vigil
I have a wa that insults me harshly, that's always good
spare cloud
Because when i dont go mantle usually subt is ahead
manic vigil
Well subt is 1% ahead
manic vigil
It's just for science mostly
spare cloud
So i cant really say
manic vigil
I want to know the opener. Especially because I swear I saw the apl vary it
Once it didn't vanish until 55s into the fight 
spare cloud
The point in the latter is so you have pandemic duration btw
spare cloud
Does the pandemic time do increased ns dmg though?
hoary copper
Last night I kept vanish rupture instead of envenom then I'd curse and it threw off my mojo
manic vigil
I've been doing that anyway, just started to question it lately
ivory leaf
Rip them 6 mill envenoms
manic vigil
Should be buffed longer duration yes
spare cloud
Only 6 mil?
hoary copper
Idk how often I get 6m, I think I see more ike 4.5-5 my weapons are 976 at the moment
except maybe Curator during evo phase
spare cloud
I do 8 mil consistently with my first one in opener
hoary copper
but thats cheating
hardy bluff
990 weps, like 7.7 in opener
hoary copper
I didnt think it was needed?
hardy bluff
I should
spare cloud
Happened to me when i started playing again
warm parcel
vanish has built in stopattack
spare cloud
If i remember correctly
hardy bluff
Gucci then
spare cloud
Oh okay
distant moon
can u link vanish macro?
vernal adder
macro is /cast Vanish
potent lintel
Wait is that true? Auto hits can take over your NS?
strange python
thanks for the picture
dire spoke
bobs vegana or garbage
vapid moth
^^^^^
shrewd oriole
@dire spoke nah it's crit during the proc and malch
jovial kite
Dats toxins
shrewd oriole
@viscid helm http://prntscr.com/iics4m
with the new hierophant 10% less u can run 9 auras as bm lul
viscid helm
Maybe its finally gonna be better than necro
shrewd oriole
gratz noobe!
keen inlet
if you saw Noobe's guildies' performance
you'd understand how big of an accomplishment that is
keen inlet
cool story
shrewd oriole
haHAA
keen inlet
http://gph.to/2EKuf7r @bold dune
onyx falcon
gz noobe! 😄
went to go n try to see wut my guilds ranking was since i didnt know that thing exisited.. turns out it gets overridden once you do M
lone junco
Ranking is highly dependant on previous tier mythic kills.
bold dune
no it isn't
bold dune
your ranking for this tier is completely independent of what you did last tier
lone junco
isnt last tier "previous"
bold dune
yes
shrewd oriole
bold dune
I'm saying what you did the previous tier doesn't matter at all for your current rank
shrewd oriole
they're completly seperated
bold dune
In a multiraid tier e.g. t19, how you finish in one raid may influence your rank before you finish the final boss of the tier, but it's not at all pertinent to t21
lone junco
its fine. we were 18 at one point.
fake news.
will prob kill a few mythic bosses next few weeks before we break until aug.
devout hollow
dank
lone junco
however many we can do with 18
shrewd oriole
wait why are you breaking until aug
keen inlet
Are y'all saying that having access to the prior tier's mythic loot, and farming it longer, won't in any way influence how you perform into the next tier?
I'm not sure I understand the argument here
lone junco
ranking in Aurgus with respect to TOS mythic kills.
gaunt moat
in T20 my guild jumped like 100 ranks just cause we extended on KJ instead of reclearing and getting stuck on avatar
bold dune
it's fine Don, you don't understand the argument lol
devout hollow
yes the worry was getting stuck on imonar since it was slop
keen inlet
Well just explain it to me, I'm trying to
onyx falcon
bunny did you get Cutting Edge: KJ?
gaunt moat
of course
onyx falcon
nice
gaunt moat
we were like rank 315 i think
keen inlet
I mean you don't have to I'd just like to learn from this discussion
gaunt moat
*308
onyx falcon
you guild get CE: Argus alrdy?
lone junco
we were 18 server at mythic ursoc, but tanked like 80 ranks when ToV opened and we had heroic Helya, but didnt have mythic Xavius
keen inlet
and at face level I'm not sure I understand.
bold dune
If I'm understanding Noobe correctly, if you did more mythic bosses in the previous tier, then after you finish the current tier on heroic, your rank will be higher
buoyant escarp
what should i run for mythic+?
bold dune
which isn't true
buoyant escarp
which leges and trinkets?
gaunt moat
@onyx falcon i'm not in that guild anymore, but no, they're still progressing argus
onyx falcon
same as ST besides helya and odyn
gaunt moat
they're looking for a rogue btw
bold dune
yep np
shrewd oriole
is that ethic or whatver notter
gaunt moat
(i'm not in any guild)
keen inlet
Ethnic
gaunt moat
yes tom
devout hollow
what server 
shrewd oriole
eTHICC
gaunt moat
don, full name: Ethnic_Cleansing
onyx falcon
yea my guilds progging aggy atm but i dont raid w/ em cause of work =[
gaunt moat
ravencrest EU rudetude
lone junco
@bold dune maybe if we were 1/11M but 8/11H we would be higher than someone 0/11M 11/11H
shrewd oriole
ew
lone junco
whatever.
shrewd oriole
u were alliance
devout hollow
ah rip eurobull win again
lone junco
I dont care about ranks.
gaunt moat
i'm at horde now, but, no guild :x
onyx falcon
were you alliance before bunny?!?!?!
gaunt moat
yes, i still prefer alliance
lone junco
could see it at KJ. people were killing Goroth (M) before KJ(H)
bold dune
@lone junco I get that you don't really care lol I'm just telling you that you're misinformed, because that example is untrue
gaunt moat
i don't like the horde
onyx falcon
"pst guys, we needa kill dah bunny, he's spying on the horde for the alliance"
lone junco
@bold dune sounds good.
bold dune
and yes killing a current tier mythic boss prior to the current heroic end boss would be pertinent to your rank
gaunt moat
@shrewd oriole divine is in the guild or just in your m+?
keen inlet
somebody
gaunt moat
but you raid weekends if i remember correctly
keen inlet
convince me
shrewd oriole
ah yeah your girlfriend
keen inlet
to pre-pur BFA
shrewd oriole
thursday and sunday
keen inlet
meh shekels are tight right now
shrewd oriole
guess that's rip
gaunt moat
thursday and sunday are fine
placid egret
You can boost another rogue.
shrewd oriole
rly?
gaunt moat
friday and saturday are not
shrewd oriole
keen inlet
@placid egret That is, without a doubt, the worst argument for it i've heard yet. I award you no points, and may Aman'thul have mercy upon your logs.
lone junco
oy
placid egret
dad please.
gaunt moat
jose is very abusive 😦
keen inlet
961 -> 23% ilvl
lone junco
😭
shrewd oriole
I mean
shrewd oriole
if you wanna apply
keen inlet
that would be hysterical
shrewd oriole
I'll put in a good word
lone junco
its that purple that makes me sad. not tank.
onyx falcon
wut fight?
lone junco
argus(H)
onyx falcon
ah
lone junco
w/e
onyx falcon
yea i hate trying to parse high command/eonar/coven , cause high command is mainly pb proc timing luck, eonar just sucks cause everyone bursts it down n i cant do any dmg, n coven cause i just suck at it o.o
onyx falcon
i dont care too much about parses, but i do like it when i see all oranges :P, but i also "name swapped" recently so all my old parses got removed
lone junco
our enh is around 2.2M. Im getting like 2.16
prime void
You just have to take the time to find shit groups
placid egret
On heroic or mythic?
marble sonnet
Parsing is always a joke cause it all depends on procs
lone junco
put on your fucking shoulders.
onyx falcon
im assuming meta is blue
lone junco
its taht spike
placid egret
Maybe he forgot
keen inlet
can cofirm about ahc
lone junco
...
marble sonnet
And got orange on Portal with 13% PB how is this not Provo dependent
bold dune
Provo dependence 😦
marble sonnet
Proc
onyx falcon
yea even if i wanted to parse in portal i cant caues pplz are always like "melee go up!"
lone junco
my dh is like 901. with no tier. shoulder/bracer. does like 800k on the greater bosses.
onyx falcon
besides that 1 FoK Super bug week where i just said fk you, stayed down n did like 6M
lone junco
its like 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2
marble sonnet
And if you do great but your raid and kill times suck u r fucked up too
prime void
Not really
plain thistle
I got 99% perf% and 94% ilvl % with 2.5% poison bomb garothi last night, 2.351m dps. you dont need to be that lucky to get a orange parse
keen inlet
how can you play it and not feel 12 years old and edgy
prime void
Pare 95+ all day with bad pb and bad kill times
keen inlet
😄
plain thistle
but for top 1-20, you need some luck as well
prime void
My boy jhon coming in
marble sonnet
Killtime ?
prime void
Never more true words spoken
lone junco
makes my 2.15 that much cooler.
plain thistle
4:09
lone junco
Still wondering about that 2.8M from the angelcry guy. did anyone get that APL working?
its pretty fantastic
onyx falcon
some guy did 2.8M on garothi?
urban storm
What ilvl for that jhon?
keen inlet
One of our tanks is going on break for a bit. I may step up. Debating between dk, bear, and monk.
it's not progression so it doesn't matter, really, but how is monk tank right now anyway?
onyx falcon
yea noobe but he has AV as well
plain thistle
my ilvl? 973
keen inlet
haven't touched it since EN
lone junco
DH is so fantastic imo.
exotic glen
monks are super bonkers rn i think
lone junco
i mean they suck at actual tanking. but the movement for M+ is so crazy
exotic glen
you should see our argus progress
urban storm
I haven’t seen a dh tank in ages
torn token
It was on heroic
onyx falcon
13% PB wow
exotic glen
monk tank: "im gonna die on this scythe, get ready. oh maybe not, next scythe then"
lone junco
@onyx falcon anyone close to him is getting like 18 -20%
its not just bombs.
2.86 is realdeal.
keen inlet
@exotic glen hah yeah, I stopped playing my monk around the time they nerfed the ability to cheese one-shots
or allegedly nerfed it
torn token
Top mytic log is at 2.6 so 2.8 is not shocking on heroic
exotic glen
i'd just be very cautious about choosing bear, because they are getting super fucking gutted in BFA so far
keen inlet
and I'm curious (gateway drug) about WW dps
onyx falcon
@lone junco yea im looking at the logs.... weird he did a 3 CP env in the opener before KB
exotic glen
ww is fun as well
lone junco
they are almost the same fight length @torn token
200k difference at this point is substantial.
stiff frost
So have been on a break from wow for about 3 months how’s are rogues doing ?
exotic glen
fine, as always
lone junco
@stiff frost 👌
stiff frost
Ok good
lone junco
besides, ill do whatever to avoid playing shoulder gambler.
High avg over high peak all day
lone junco
I guess.
stiff frost
Is sub still king ?
lone junco
no
stiff frost
Sorry thought I switch channels
exotic glen
lul
stiff frost
On my phone
manic vigil
Dk tank Don
keen inlet
I'm not sure I care for blood in legion
manic vigil
exotic glen
how can you not love blood right now? this is the best iteration that i know of
plain thistle
I play blood DK for mythic plus (carry runs), its pretty fun 😛
keen inlet
(liked it best for 2h blood dps tho)
plain thistle
I like to be a independent boy
devout hollow
the true endgame is always mobility and positioning
ive got a blood for m+ as well, love their toolkit
manic vigil
I've never tanked seriously but the little dabbling has shown dk to be hella fun. So if I ever would tank I think I'd be dk
vivid hound
Can anyone explain the poison vs bleed build? Is bleed with stuff like exsanguinate? Is basically everyone poison build then?
exotic glen
yes
keen inlet
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
onyx falcon
either way read the guide up top
keen inlet
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
I have to think most people access with mobile
and don't see it up there
onyx falcon
is there a command for that jose, i dont rmb, i havent been here in a week lol
keen inlet
like, it's not even behind a click
manic vigil
Don't spam bot commands in here @onyx falcon 
exotic glen
@keen inlet you should probs ask your RL before you really do anything regarding rerolling, i once offered to play mage and got turned down
onyx falcon
^ ill spam all i want! >:O
exotic glen
which was good because i didnt wanna gear it for no reason at all
keen inlet
manic vigil
Oh will you
onyx falcon
lol jose
prime void
@shrewd oriole what is that name
vivid hound
Sorry about that. I've read ravenholdt numerous times and guess I just missed it every time
keen inlet
@exotic glen It's for normal/roic, it reeeeally doesn't matter. we have a constantly rotating cast of raiders.
gaunt moat
@keen inlet instructions are unclear, what does the circle mean
keen inlet
I know more about the raid/classes/game than the RL/GM/etc
shrewd oriole
what mizu?
manic vigil
Dat reaction
keen inlet
Yeah I didn't even change it this time
doesn't everybody know I am the mod abuser
Don Jose, Name-Taker
Changer of Names
Mod Abuse Supreme
etc
I have many epithets.
@shrewd oriole rank 7 what? link, I demand evidence
no feelycrafting ranks!
exotic glen
rank 7 if you invert the charts
gaunt moat
everyone just report jose to rare.
keen inlet
wait
shrewd oriole
I'm rank 7 on allstars
exotic glen
on your server maybe
gaunt moat
lol
exotic glen
inb4 dead server
keen inlet
Have I ever told you the tragedy of Darth Fiery the Demise?
shrewd oriole
big boi tomm
gaunt moat
HEY NOW, YOU'RE AN ALL STAR
shrewd oriole
Kappa
bold dune
wow seeing as though Jhonwei is also on that list I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that's heroic?
gaunt moat
jhonwei still better ❤
shrewd oriole
pointless to look at m allstars since most of the good players private log
shrewd oriole
^
exotic glen
maybe i can one day be on the list when i get a coven kill reeeeeee
shrewd oriole
well, and asians
bold dune
my guild also private logged for the majority of this tier, but yeah I don't see the point in continuing to private log at this point
onyx falcon
i dont see the point in private logging period, unless it's races for 1st at beginning of tier
safe tiger
i wonder why
exotic glen
there was some drama in a rival guild earlier in the tier
bold dune
pretty sure the top assassination rogue is NA rn
safe tiger
they minmax the shit out of everything
exotic glen
one of their healers who was the biggest fucking parse whore ever, he would always be the first person to use his healing cds and as often as he could
and was always super proud of his ranks etc
bold dune
this tier isn't really about being good imo
shrewd oriole
well
gaunt moat
what
safe tiger
@exotic glen small dick, id say
bold dune
it's more so about getting out of having to do special jobs like on portal keeper and doing good strats
like on agg
keen inlet
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Fiery the Demise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Despots would tell you. It’s a Shadowblade legend. Darth Fiery was a Shadowblade of the Rogues, so powerful and so wise he could use the Simc to influence the changes Blizzard would implement on Live… He had such a knowledge of apls, he could even defeat the greatest rogues in the world on Warcraftlogs. The apls are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be...unnatural. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Stjern everything he knew, then Stjern topped his logs while he slept. Ironic. He could save others from failure, but not himself.
shrewd oriole
alas
exotic glen
then he switches guild and suddenly advocates for private logs as if he suddenly forgot what he had been like until that point
gaunt moat
i had a rank 1 immonar mythic with 8% PB
onyx falcon
nice
shrewd oriole
poggers
plain thistle
lol, I think I have better logs for mythic than heroic rn
plain thistle
heroic is so fast that you need to get lucky in the opener, or you will just get a good log, not a top one =/
onyx falcon
bunny should just write all his msges in emojis from now on
gaunt moat
can you write it only in emojis?
keen inlet
versed abyss
Hey guys have a quick question about mythic + what leggos do y'all wear, I pretty much just wear shoulders and wrists but was curious if there were times I should be wearing the leggo back.
safe tiger
think you are good to go with st legos kvothe
manic vigil
I read it and laffed @keen inlet
versed abyss
Ok wasn't sure if back was useful for trash or not then switch back to st for bosses...just feels like I'm always just praying for a pb proc to feel usefully on trash lol
obsidian notch
memento 935 or shadow singed fang 930 ?
versed abyss
Yeah I try to keep rupture up on at least 3 targets and env as much as possible
versed abyss
Any other tips outside of that?
safe tiger
then memento for free procs
buoyant escarp
should you use rupture for more than 3 targets tho?
safe tiger
don't rapture on opener
spam fans and envenom with shoulder buff
then vanish for another shoulder buff
torn token
You dont need to rupture so many with t21
safe tiger
then you can rapture if adds are alive
hoary copper
Upgraded my 915 fang to 930 :pogchamp:
safe tiger
you should rapture, but not inside shoulder buff
and not if the adds die fast
i was told*
versed abyss
Oh ok yeah I usually open with fan for instant 5 cp then I would rupture fan rupture fan....that makes sense to use the crit for the env dam
versed abyss
Haha
keen inlet
Don't do that on opening^
safe tiger
im a bad sin, sue me :S
buoyant escarp
should i run singed and golg in m+?
versed abyss
Thanks that's gonna help out alot cause unless I'm running 20s adds are just dead before I can get any real damage out
devout hollow
i guess the crits to envenom beat a full length rupture with opener. ive been thinking about that too in m+ with mobs that will last through a full rupture
buoyant escarp
985 golg