Notter has to get a new battle.net account to leave all this behind
#assassination
shrewd night
shrewd oriole
I actually had good intentions I just thought he'd find it funny which he did 😦
desert vault
I was told to not really watch the SoT debuff to clip, but just the Evenom debuff is the main thing to worry about clipping as much as possible like during KB and stuff. Sound right?
shrewd night
Yo Tom
viscid helm
no doesnt sound right
shrewd night
You saw the screenie I sent you yesterday
shrewd night
All's good, it was about gkicking an officer 
shrewd night
He was abusing the guild to get gear by not allowing other officers to chime in on loot issues and went behind the gms back to get a new guild
shrewd oriole
what a pos
shrewd night
Lost two raiders because of it, but gaining like 6 because of it too
shrewd oriole
piece of styrofoam because he's hollow
shrewd night
Old members wanting to come back now that he's gone
shrewd oriole
how did you lose raiders cuz of it?
shrewd night
They were in on it
shrewd night
One of the gms of the guild he applied to talked to our gm
And ours was like wait u wat now
And was sent screenies of their conversations
shrewd oriole
ahahha
amazing
what about the gear shit
wait
was your officer that dumb that he told
the gm of the guild he was applying to
that he was scamming gear
LOL?
spare cloud
🤔
manic vigil
Erm... 
desert vault
So just always try to clip SoT? Or just cast everything as fast as possible? I don't know why I can never really get an answer on this, driving me crazy 😐
lone junco
lol at loot systems in general.
keen inlet
@desert vault depends on your gear level, honestly
desert vault
970 equipped, 203 mast, 30 crit
manic vigil
Swastika reaction... could we not do that
lone junco
no
quick talon
@bold dune youre needed
lone junco
👮
keen inlet
@desert vault your crit seems low but anyway, at 970 idk, you're probably not gonna be energy starved ever
step 1: focus on maximizing uptime
step 2: if you can do that and spam, go ahead
it's not really complicated
lone junco
30/203 is fine.
keen inlet
don't overthink it
lone junco
just read the guide. it can answer simple questions.
desert vault
I know it is not that complicated, I'm just getting some crappy parses. Guess its the PB life prolly.
spare cloud
The guide answers it indirectly I believe
lone junco
probably a lot of things. prob a poor mid block vanish. prob delaying your tb to fuck with kb.
desert vault
I just hate when other rogues I'm always helping are putting up better numbers than me ... makes me feel like I'm screwing up my play
magic zenith
just proc pbomb more
lone junco
anything over 8% pb is above average.
spare cloud
Do you pray to the lord pb?
desert vault
I don't think I ever delay TB, I will hold vanish just to pool some energy for my 5s
lone junco
- are you able to do 2.3M on gorathi?
shrewd oriole
link some logs
desert vault
I don't! I should make a sacrifice before each pull!
manic vigil
Who is spamming that reaction 
lone junco
cant mess up tb if you play alacrity
manic vigil
I need to know
keen inlet
@manic vigil what reaction
desert vault
I don't do 2.3m on Garothi, barely over 2m is my best result
keen inlet
I'm not seeing it
manic vigil
You took care of it I assumed
desert vault
heh, yeah I know
manic vigil
Inb4 it's actually don
desert vault
Eonar I don't try on, PK I'm running all over the f'ing place so those are sort of throwaways at the moment in my book
magic zenith
Here, put on my glasses
keen inlet
nah I'm seeing it too
shrewd oriole
gonna compare your garoth ito mine
lone junco
lol
keen inlet
they delete too quickly
magic zenith
does pbomb proc during mantle buff? If yes winning log.
dire spoke
you also can env > vanish to have pb before vanish 
desert vault
I know my rup/gar are always a little lower than they should be. Prolly from trying to mechanics 😃
spare cloud
96% is alright on garothi
shrewd night
desert vault
KB and then Vanish?
manic vigil
@shrewd night it was you
desert vault
Just hold the vanish until after KB is done?
quick talon
maybe fit more than 2 envs into the vanish window 😦
dire spoke
oh oh
shrewd oriole
@lone junco is that garothi
spare cloud
Yes
lone junco
dont TB right before the AoE phase
shrewd oriole
70 ish % on garothi is ok I gues
lone junco
rupture on the 2nd hand is wasted.
dire spoke
Is this my play?
dire spoke
oh
shrewd oriole
desert vault
Oh ok, yeah I wasn't sure I just tried that for something new cause I'm frustrated in general
dire spoke
I just realized that I KB before vanish mid fight
lone junco
the kb was fine. no vendetta
lone junco
i pot at about 1:30 before the end of the fight.
shrewd oriole
without vendetta or anything
lone junco
so typ like 30% boss
desert vault
yeah I had forgot to use it, so I was like oh crap let me toss that junk in here 😛
So all vanishes should have Vendetta cast before use?
Just hold vanish for it?
shrewd oriole
ye ur pb was like 13% here
your poor parse was mostly your fault
crap kill timer as well
optimally it would've lived 15 more seconds
dire spoke
I have to figure out my vendetta timing again, it's acting weird
shrewd oriole
some mistakes are minor but stuff like randomly vanishing nothing is a big dps loss
acoustic mortar
Just capped my rogue alt and going assassination. Do the posts in the Pins cover all the bases? Some class discords have better resources than others.
spare cloud
Yes
desert vault
So the 66% envenom uptime is really bad? what is a good % for envenom uptime?
acoustic mortar
👌 thanks!
shrewd oriole
nah it's fine
quick talon
hm idk
shrewd oriole
it's garothi, you have down time
quick talon
I had 78% on my garothi
shrewd oriole
I have several with 70% but I soak
desert vault
Ok, so biggest thing is vendetta+vanish everytime prolly?
spare cloud
You want to keep your last vanish for 30%
unless you are losing a cast
also delay vanish for vendetta but not the other way around
dire spoke
you can cheese logs if you env before vanish
shrewd oriole
what the hell are those relics
dire spoke
kappa
desert vault
My relics?
desert vault
lousy ones
shrewd oriole
desert vault
I got a Ma/Ma last night
desert vault
The strangler is .... 😦
frozen pecan
lul
shrewd oriole
strange python
I have a question about that
rich wren
Never lucky damn
shrewd oriole
what middle traits do you have?
desert vault
TB is 5 now, MAlc 6, and Massin 6 now
shrewd oriole
legit like those relics lose you like 100k dps
massin 6
OMEGA
LUL
never go 6 mass
desert vault
Shadowbind x 2 and Master of Shadow x1
spare cloud
shrewd oriole
he's playing shoulders bracers
shrewd night
I can't emoji anymore
shrewd oriole
u never go 6mass
shrewd oriole
shrewd night
Fix it
quick talon
I do have 2 MA aswell, but yea, shoulders/bracer
desert vault
So I need to just get rid of the Massin or only use it if I can get to 7?
shrewd oriole
2 mestria assassino es no bueno
I mean
you've fucked up now, keep it until you're 7 I guess
desert vault
ok
shrewd oriole
try and replace the non MA / MA relic
desert vault
I'm trying to get rid of the strangler for an MA of course 😃
shrewd oriole
cuz that one has envenom on it
or strangler
so fuck that shit
I really like 2 BB 3MA 1 Mass
shrewd oriole
but 3MA 3 Mass is good
desert vault
I can't get a BB to save my life
shrewd oriole
BB is 3rd bis relic lol
strange python
If you want to delay vanish until 30%, do you delay tb,vendetta, and kb too? I keep having situations where every cooldown is up at 35%.
shrewd oriole
it's really good
desert vault
I've not seen a single relic with BB on it this whole tier
shrewd night
Monkamega
shrewd oriole
@strange python depends how fast u're pushing the boss
spare cloud
@vapid moth opens with Mutilate, he doesn't need BB
shrewd oriole
if he's gonna go sub 30 during your vendetta
you can vendetta TB KB
do muti envenom until sub thirty
save some energy obv
then vanish
vanish doesnt necessarily need to be at the start of the vendetta
vapid moth
Who opens with mutilate
shrewd oriole
BB is frequently better than Mass
shrewd oriole
if mass doesnt get u an extra vendetta on ur kill time which easily happens u were better off with BB
uneven aspen
Can I ask you guys a question? I'm using the Aethys Rotation, since I wanted to get into sin a bit. Sometimes it tells me to use FoK on single target, but I dont get why and when I should use it.
vapid moth
And how can you tell when that happens?
shrewd night
If using cloak. Use it at 30 stacks. If you're not using cloak the add-on is shit.
vapid moth
Or will happen
spare cloud
What he said.
desert vault
Just replaces the Malc/Strangler with a GW/Malch, better than nothing I suppose
replaces
er, replaced! Jesus.
spare cloud
Keep yourself simmed
shrewd oriole
desert vault
I just need a Ma/Ma shadow relic, got a 970 in the slot now
desert vault
What do you think getting my 7th Massin is worth in ilvl drop? 10-15?
shrewd oriole
sim it
spare cloud
desert vault
Yeah, I will waiting for another sim to finish at the moment
shrewd oriole
But please Xaethron keep bashing BB LUL
valid moss
on Vari, you have less chance to get Necrotic Embrace when you taking Marked Prays?
jovial kite
no
shrewd oriole
nope
valid moss
4 weeks in a fucking row I get 2-3 Necrotics and parse 45% when other rogue (which is taking Marked Prays) only gets 0-1 debuffs xD
fuck this boss man
valid moss
im not talking about steps
just dog shit luck with fucking necrotic :<
you cannot parse if you get 2+ Necrotics
jovial kite
you can
valid moss
no you can't
jovial kite
yes you can
spare cloud
Just cloak
jovial kite
i think hes trolling you because your statement is so retracted
valid moss
show me 95% log with 2 necrotics+
spare cloud
😃
valid moss
show me good log with 2 necrotics mid-fight and I will admit that I am wrong D:
spare cloud
even plays bleed
valid moss
2 necrotics man
spare cloud
what a beast
valid moss
not 1
jovial kite
you saying that 5 seconds is going to drop my parse to your retracted levels?
probably not
its cute you made up the excuse of necrotics to tell yourself you're a good player in the end
shrewd oriole
jovial kite
play better next time
spare cloud
Rank 5 or smth has necrotic as well
shrewd oriole
sounds like a player skill issue
manic vigil
Wow :slootRip: so owned
shrewd oriole
lul
spare cloud
well, not gonna continue
valid moss
then explain me what happened here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mDFYxJ4Ckv3dWRTX#fight=6&type=damage-done
shrewd oriole
🤔
spare cloud
he's simming bs relics
valid moss
because I feel hopeless
valid moss
I can't find out what am I doing wrong
shrewd oriole
well
vapid moth
But you don't know when fights like that are coming. If you're doing progression you're better off using mass malch cause that guarantees highest dps. If you're tryna pad logs oh should still use mass malch but that time just finf a group where your last vendetta can be used in those last 20 seconds
shrewd oriole
you mis potted
jovial kite
you even hit all envenoms to boss
jovial kite
you missed tb casts
valid moss
4 feints is alot?
warm parcel
regularly onle one env per tb
shrewd oriole
you used vanish at 39%
and got no more vanishes during the fight
so that's a BIG dungoof
quick talon
hoary copper
Aethys's addon isnt that bad (just got back and scrolled back up) I use it mostly and still have purple/orange logs for my ilvl? I prob dont need it at this point tho
quick talon
stop this
valid moss
hm, you save your Vanish for 30% always?
hoary copper
What was the time to death addon that was mentioned yesterday?
shrewd oriole
not always
calm grail
Hey guys, I had to do mechanics and I can't parse, do you have any tips?
jovial kite
240 sec fight you missed 9% rupture uptime so thats basically a 5 cp rupture missed too
lone junco
@quick talon ewww
shrewd oriole
if the boss is gonna die without you losing a vanish
vapid moth
I was typing the response. I'm in school
lone junco
@hoary copper there are weak auras for it, but i use Exorsus Raid Tools
shrewd oriole
your PB is shit as well
hoary copper
Thats what it was
valid moss
can't help with PBs
jovial kite
@valid moss if you get only 1 extra vanish after pull you save it for 30%
shrewd oriole
yeah
calm grail
Yeah you can.
jovial kite
same goes for pot
shrewd oriole
can help with everything else
jovial kite
unless your rl demands it to be used somewhere else
valid moss
yea I am not sure why I haven't used second pot
shrewd oriole
missing vanish, missing tbs, missing pot, unlucky pull = shitty log
you potted in combat
either someone ninja'd or u mistimed ur pot
calm grail
Time to kill can change depending on how the fight is going, where is your cut off for using vanish generally? If there is like 2 minutes and 20 seconds left, I will pop it because I assume it will come up again.
lone junco
I use 2nd pot at Ttd 1:25 ish. it is not necessarily just tied to vanish or what not.
valid moss
must've been ninja then, and what do you mean missing TBs?
shrewd oriole
depends on comp
I look at our comp: do we have warriors
are we doing an aoe fight or a ST fight
calm grail
That's where I tried to gauge how much time over 2 minutes is safe m
vapid moth
Well Tom now I'm waiting on your response
quick talon
well he missed 1 TB
shrewd oriole
not much to say about what you wrote, it's correct
quick talon
but that'd be really tight timing
calm grail
Sometimes they run into these real awkward moments where the time to kill says like 2 minutes and 15 seconds, but the boss is at like 35% HP
shrewd oriole
Mass is better
calm grail
Hold or Burst
shrewd oriole
I just wanted to show you that BB isn't "shit" because it can be situationally better
and if you dont have anything 7 mass', BB is quite nice
vapid moth
It's shit. Mass malch or the relic gets thrown away
shrewd oriole
Mass mos malch 985 or dumpster
calm grail
BB is p good
shrewd oriole
hmm
calm grail
I have 7 Mass 2 BB
shrewd oriole
depends nira
how fast are you pushing
cuz
if it's a slow push to sub 30 then holding vendetta for a long time is shit
vapid moth
Holding vendetta what?
lone junco
2min is deceiving due to execute. 35%
I would use vendetta at that 2:15 hold vanish for 1:15 vendetta
other wise you vanish at 35% and it is 15 sec out at boss kill.
shrewd oriole
hoary copper
I saw that earlier Tom
vapid moth
I saw that
shrewd oriole
that shit's funny
valid moss
@jovial kite "you even hit all envenoms to boss" is that bad?
valid moss
no toxicity intended boys
spare cloud
white
shrewd oriole
people
hoary copper
lone junco
i can post a log and let people roast me, but i prob couldnt do any better anyway lol
what is this bleed business
calm grail
I hit my ilvl goal for this expansion. Time to collect mogs then quit.
uneven aspen
992?
lone junco
once we beat argus (tonight) Ill get to play outlaw some.
shrewd oriole
can we stop pretending mistakes matter as assa
everyone knows it's how many pbs u get on memexecute
Kappa (for safety)
shrewd oriole
that's disgusting lul
shrewd night
Dw bois I'll quit if no doggotrinket this week
lone junco
@calm grail still no. will get it tonight.
calm grail
Wasn't Rupture our biggest source of damage until Nighthold? Even without exsang.
shrewd oriole
Garothi
calm grail
💤
lone junco
seemsgood
calm grail
LFR Coven is a god damn blast.
shrewd oriole
LFR coven was so boring
calm grail
The damage is so low you got like a five-minute execute phase
lone junco
I killed lfr coven with me +dk tank.
calm grail
And everything can stack
lone junco
we just ignored all the adds and walked around the edge of the room
with them stacked.
like 3mins of just me and tank
calm grail
You are the captain now
lone junco
shrewd oriole
dude pogchamp golganneth's actually did a total of 1% on hounds
pogchamp new record
calm grail
I was fucking around in the sewers.
calm grail
I threw my dagger at somebody and it procced the trinket with the crit window window
lone junco
5000 agi is nice.
calm grail
52something this week
quick talon
ya its only great due to its ilvl
calm grail
Like 5237 I think
hoary copper
LFR Argus is much better than LFR KJ still. As long as you dont have too many people below 500K on Argus it's easy
valid moss
if he is sick, then why don't he go and see a doctor 🤔
shrewd oriole
wow
hoary copper
That was a fast delete
jovial kite
42k ahead
valid moss
cmonBruh chu say
jovial kite
??
lone junco
deeps is deeps
shrewd oriole
I mean he is 6 ilvls higher than you but that's obviously gonna happen when u wear t20
lone junco
jovial kite
bringing them 960 wont give me 6 ilvls
jovial kite
but theyll make me go ahead in deeps :p
lone junco
bleed is cheats to for the dps. it's just better avg.
vernal adder
not even 3x985 in 2018 😂
lone junco
its not better top end for sure.
jovial kite
🤔
calm grail
My wife started playing assassination Rogue, and now she finally understands when I complain about poison bomb and how awesome or sad it makes me.
Now I can furiously point to details and she understands me.
quick talon
I'd kms
vernal adder
tell her when to tb
shrewd oriole
^
lone junco
I am free from the bomb.
calm grail
We don't play together
valid moss
On Imonar Mythic, should I use my Vanish/Pot at 30% or wait for last transition and use it at 20%?
jovial kite
??
lone junco
our bota is >> their bota.
shrewd oriole
ahaha
jovial kite
im kinda lost here
calm grail
🤔
lone junco
lust only kills your bracer
vernal adder
time to parse low epic in raid
dire spoke
hf
lone junco
just make sure your 2 pots = 2mins.
lone junco
but thats scrub mode
calm grail
Mythic third platform
lone junco
our fucking warrior always dies on the bridge.
valid moss
if I used potion at 30% then I'd lose alot because of downtime, so I think 20% would be better?
calm grail
Our main tank hit the mines twice last night and got knocked on to that sweet Bridge debuff.
lone junco
pretty sure we lust open all fights but portals.
calm grail
Felt ♿ man
lone junco
@valid moss repeat after me. Potion uptime shall = 2 mins per fight. If you can get one of them to overlap bracer= better. In a fast fight that could be 50%
Time to death tracker will help.
calm grail
Mythic soul Hunter is pretty fun, but I'm pretty sure our Holy Paladin hates the melee.
Has the reaction time of an 80 year old
lone junco
I use my last potion at about 1:30 remaining. depending on fight mechanics.
calm grail
He is the only one who ever puts other people to sleep. We have to constantly move away from him.
lone junco
hpal is horrible for that stuff
foot work, plus boss debuffs, plus staring at raid ui.
lone junco
i never had probs with actual healing, just when they overlap movement and debuffs and burst.
hoary copper
at least hpal's movement is pretty good to heal while moving
lone junco
now it is
manic vigil
I want my emotes back 😡
lone junco
didnt use to
hoary copper
Or just bubble stuff and stand in it
spare cloud
I want to be green again but we can't have what we want
jovial kite
hoary copper
I like healing but hate it. I have the slowest reaction time so I'm not as great of a healer and people make me want to let them die, but its fun being in charge of life and death
manic vigil
Whoever did spam the swastika earlier 🗡
jovial kite
and thats 974
hoary copper
Its hard(ish) doing most other melee after being rogue, just so many buttons to prevent/lower damage
shrewd oriole
Nutty
lone junco
@prime void how were the logs?
If Im going to do better on kingo, ill have to split off more dps to 3rd add. we are killing mine too quickly now.
that mother fucking arcane.
stealing my add
not stacking with him again.
prime void
It was okay. Not spectacular but decent
hoary copper
Jeeeze, he melted it
hoary copper
Arcane mage feels weird to play but I see stuff like that and I'm like hmmm
lone junco
this is what arcane does to imps on portal
says its like a seizure. pew pew pew pew
manic vigil
3 button mage op PogChamp
lone junco
his 20s burst is great. and aoe is top
manic vigil
Ye
hoary copper
I loved 3m mage which is basically fire and arcane combined back in vanilla. AP POM Pyro and hopefully it died because otehrwise you were toast for the next 2m 59 seconds
lone junco
Ill have him and me solo one of the big adds for aggramar. good thinking me.
quick talon
M?
jovial kite
yeah
quick talon
Nice
fleet whale
I may have gotten garbage from my M+ cache (spring relic)
but at least I got a 985 tier chest with a socket last night lmao
zealous dew
calm grail
Same.
shrewd oriole
You missed the Kappa
quick talon
idk raiding with the same apes for 11 years
I cant even stand most people more than 3 months
manic vigil
:joy:
shrewd oriole
Dunno
I can’t stand raiding in a guild if I am the best player
Or if there are lots of bad players
Gets super frustrating lol
Even raiding very little like I do nowadays, <8 hours a week, I wanna be competitive
old quartz
any tips for m coven? starting pulls tonight
silk sundial
Hey, so on a freshly boosted 110 rogue with crappy gear and stats, will a bleed build do more dps than a poison build? I know poison is very reliant on mastery
plain thistle
coven? free loot 😛
old quartz
haha right
manic vigil
If anything bleed is the more gear taxing build
old quartz
im the solo dolo rogue of the raid, after being the pure guineapig on all vari MP, i think its fair for a free ride kill 😛
plain thistle
I think the only "special" thing I do for coven is to rupture+garrote the add that melees are not attacking
fire adds
because they explode really fast
calm grail
The special thing I do is ignore mechanics.
plain thistle
and garrote+rupture both ( I play with T20 2p)
but you dont need to have 100% uptime on both bosses, because you dont want to switch boss during vendetta or KB, etc
calm grail
I wish my mythic t20 pieces simmed higher than the alternatives.
I might try swapping stuff around again to see.
old quartz
ok good stuff, yeaa on heroic i just keep bleeds running on both, but def gonna only do that when KB/Vend arent on asara
i sim a bit let using 2/4 p, so straight 4p is best for me until i can replace my gloves with something 960+
plus with an eoc it mighjt be best just not to switch at all on coven, not sure
silk sundial
@manic vigil ok thanks, I'll test both out on some dummies when I get home 😀
manic vigil
Poison should be better, you need a rather specific relic and stat setup to make bleed work. Just forget it even exists
I did as well kappa
@plain thistle speaking of coven, do you dot one, switch and then do your "opener" or open normal and dot the second boss after vendetta? The former makes more sense I think. With 2p4p
plain thistle
yes, I garrote both (subterfuge) rupture one , switch to the other, rupture and burst
manic vigil
Makes sense, thanks
quick talon
imagine not playing subterfuge on coven
plain thistle
my log there was rank 1-2 for a couple weeks(3-4) , now its rank 7, 2.523M dps
its private tho, for 1 more boss =p
manic vigil
Don't need to see your logs I know you are frigging good 🤷
You can't? As in it's too weak due to ilvl? @quick talon
plain thistle
the funny part about that fight is that a rank 1 sin rogue does less dps than a 31% warlock aff, 😂
plain thistle
yeah, dream fight for ranged multi dots
manic vigil
Love it on my alt affli yeah
shrewd oriole
Not using shoulders in 2018
quick talon
And i havent got my hands on any tier piece thats higher than 930
shrewd oriole
😠
manic vigil
😂
plain thistle
fuck shoulder 😠
quick talon
shoulder is simming worse for me
devout hollow
imagine being a guild that cared about old tier
quick talon
due to 2 MA relics probably
shrewd oriole
😠 logging without shoulders is sad gacr
Face*
Two mass LUL
you must be hella fat to have all that mass
devout hollow
rip external emoj
warm geode
my gloves/shoulders set is only 5k behind jhons ToS set ( +30ilvl and one socked from mythic base )
ToS gear is not dat important , ithink, just play correctly
warm geode
u cant tell dat for top logs .-. top logs r no dependent of dat, is about playing correctly and having lucky with pb, the amount of ppl the use ToS is way way low, so less ppl with lucky -> less ppl on top with tos gear
quick talon
🚪 👈🏿
manic vigil
:joy:
shrewd oriole
Sometimes I wonder if I win is actually black
quick talon
💢
👁 👁
👃🏿
👄
shrewd oriole
True
quick talon
toxic
shrewd oriole
Wow
manic vigil
🗡
hoary copper
Whats with the spacing between your eyes, are they sliding off?
quick talon
probably
devout hollow
i just ripd them
manic vigil
Yes
quick talon
because that guy kept reacting
shrewd oriole
Fucking hell every day we lose more and more rights
quick talon
with swastikas
manic vigil
Because 8malch reacted with swastikas
shrewd oriole
Can’t even use my t1 emote
Yeah instead of banning him we remove all emotes
That’s sensible LUL
devout hollow
🥈
quick talon
@gaunt moat hows dungreed? I was watching the storepage lately
shrewd oriole
Bet flowi wouldn’t take away our emotes 😦
gaunt moat
it's pretty simple, a nice game to play when you're brain-dead
like i am 90% of the time
quick talon
aight ty
shrewd oriole
I’d be brain dead too if I couldn’t use emotes to freely express my feelings
Oh wait
hoary copper
Brain Dead
Plays Sin
Checks Out 👌
shrewd oriole
:thonk:
manic vigil
@shrewd oriole Don couldn't figure out who did it
manic vigil
Yay
jovial kite
manic vigil
gaunt moat
it was me, but okay 😦
quick talon
lmao
jovial kite
thanks notter
shrewd oriole
Did you take them away
manic vigil
shrewd oriole
Or give them back :
quick talon
Thanks obama
shrewd oriole
🤔
jovial kite
remember to be kind and respect notters
gaunt moat
jose was the one who took it away from you!
quick talon
F
quick talon
Tom
manic vigil
quick talon
Did u bang that isreali girl
gaunt moat
👼
gaunt moat
yeah, don't date vegans
manic vigil
shrewd oriole
Yeah he showed me all the Jewish sex positions
quick talon
wait
devout hollow
quick talon
she's vegan?
shrewd oriole
Yeah
manic vigil
hoary copper
Whys that Notter? Cause they'll eat your 🍆
quick talon
omg
shrewd oriole
Vegan crossfitter Jewish
quick talon
dude ditch her asap
gaunt moat
wasn't me
shrewd oriole
Ahaha it’s just a date
jovial kite
sigh
shrewd oriole
Giggle 
manic vigil
gaunt moat
wasn't deleted by a mod
shrewd oriole
My meat is kosher
quick talon
also
gaunt moat
eww
manic vigil
quick talon
Where do you take her out for dinner
fucking eating the grass next to some cows
or whats the plan
quick talon
eating leafs
shrewd oriole
Nearly all my famil is vegan
jovial kite
will you wiggle your sausage in her salad bowl
indigo epoch
I'm sorry.
devout hollow
do you like vegans cause they remind you of your mother
shrewd oriole
No one gives me shots for it
No but the girls tight booty reminds me of yours
: ^ )
devout hollow
:v)
quick talon
🍑
manic vigil
devout hollow
solid field
Be sure to spec alacrity
quick talon
Vigor
spare cloud
Just use exsanguinate?
shrewd oriole
You wanna stack mastery and multi strike
quick talon
lasting longer
shrewd oriole
The restaurant is actually really good tho
sharp viper
oh man i forgot multi strike existed xD
shrewd oriole
It’s got these big ass wraps
plain thistle
if you dont play like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_gvby8Ypjw , then you are playing wow wrong
quick talon
lmao she starving for that cock m8
quick talon
calm grail
Aren't all Eurocucks vegan?!
quick talon
yo tom
shrewd oriole
And she lives in like
quick talon
on friday eve
calm grail
I'm an American and I eat at least 10 chickens a day.
quick talon
keep sending pics in here
shrewd oriole
And her mom flies for business a ton
grim jay
murris arent allowed to see that
calm grail
Pls send
solid field
Do like an IRL stream tom
daring pendant
yo guys, i just won the insignia of ravenholdt and im not sure if u should use it for aoe in m+ (i dont have shoulders yet)
what do you guys think?
im currently using boots and wrists
solid field
only gonna work with mutilate.. so if you're mostly FoK. It isn't going to be that big of dps increase.
lunar coral
is SoT completely useless to play around outside of KB windows now? (is there a point to clipping at all outside KB, or we only care about clipping Env now when energy allows)?
quiet sinew
Whats up with HeroDamage CrucibleWeight string for Assa T21 Mantle+Bracers, it gives -0.07 for MA if its your second relic. Lmao
I guess its time to switch to boots+bracers, LUL
slim olive
daring pendant
yes i know it only works with mutilate but is it worth the 30% dmg? i mean does it give more dps than FoK?
plain thistle
no, its more a single target legendary, not usefull for AoE
torn token
Prob not, fok spreads dp, mut doesnt
verbal root
Its becuase 2nd MAss relic will reduce vendetta to the point where its CD desynchronizes with your other spells to the point that it fucks you over and its not dps gain... at least thats the theory of it
3rd is dps gain agian.. so you want 1 or 3
patent topaz
crit master boots, vers mastery socket of the same ilevel still sim 4k higher. feels bad
daring pendant
and i dont have legg shoulders so im not sure what to wear for aoe in m+
torn token
Vigor ring?
solid field
wear cloak and wrists
torn token
Shoulders is god in m+
daring pendant
just bought another legg today and insignia dropped : /
torn token
Just gotta suck it up till it drops
daring pendant
i rly need shoulders
prime void
Might as well just not do m+ w/o shoulder lol
valid moss
What are you guys popping on Kingaroth M pull? TB + KB only, or Vendetta too?
quiet sinew
Come on, be honest guys (and girls), which is more fun to play and/or gives you a better constant output: Mantle+Bracers or Boots+Bracers.
Both seem to be pretty 50/50 in the top combination logs
old quartz
mantle bracers
manic vigil
Boot bracers 
valid plank
do you try get t20 2p if you go boot:bracers or just if the gears good enough
civic palm
Depends on the rest of your tier. A lot of people that were 2p4p are now just 4p.
bold dune
would it really be worth it to farm decent t20 at this point
solid field
I would say 30 runs is lucky for a eoc..
manic vigil
My t20 just simms highest with boots and bracers
spice frost
Shoulder/bracer for me. I got 960 crit/mast shoulders in m+ cache. Swapped out w 965 vers/mast boots and simmed. 37k dps loss
spare cloud
🚔
grim jay
30 runs ist decent
manic vigil
And it
grim jay
t20 🤷
quick talon
idk the only fight i'd like to have T20 for is coven
bold dune
also a lot of the ppl running boots/bracers are running strong off pieces instead of t20 2pc
bold dune
I got lucky, coined 950 t20 shoulders before ToS farm ended
grim jay
arent you one of those bleed edgelords anyways?
manic vigil
Makes sense that you would outgrow t20 at some point
bold dune
and I've been using the same 935 t20 gloves since the first week of mythic ToS lol aside from when I was sub
manic vigil
Unless you actively farm t20 still
bold dune
I mean I'm full clearing mythic ABT every week and I still haven't "outgrown" t20 2pc
grim jay
special snowflake
night vale
,should we pool abit of energy ~100 before using TB or KB?
valid plank
t20 2p is so nice i actually love it
manic vigil
All the better then nelbur
manic vigil
Nice
quick talon
I feel like with growing ilvl and more dps per energy
the t20 2p just gets stronger
all the energy you save from garrote
bold dune
not to mention the free cleave which is prevalent in a lot of antorus encounters
garrote ticks pretty hard
grim jay
I remember like 90% of the people in here complaining about how fucking bad t20 2p is
when it came out
civic palm
Entirely depends on their item level. Some people got very unlucky with shoulder drops and both pieces need to be decent.
quick talon
Well
bold dune
lol it wasn't good ST
valid plank
only having 935 t20 pieces is a pain and my guild doesn't do tos
civic palm
T19 was excellent for ST even. AP tainted that thought a little though.
grim jay
people just complained about it entirely. not just comparing it to t19
civic palm
-NRG on Garrote?! That doesn't even do damage!
Only 1 NRG?! WHAT?!
Turns out being able to use Garrote as filler is good. Being able to cleave easier is good.
Turns out extra energy is good.
quick talon
the garrote filler was barely noticable dps wise
grim jay
common term
shrewd night
Assassination chat is filled with reduced acronyms
bold dune
the extra energy in execute 😩
shrewd night
See? I made it without having to edit
civic palm
Garrote filler was good and made sure Garrote damn near never fell off.
spice frost
I think that at the heroic gear level, m t20 is good, but you probably need some good titanforges on your t20 for it to be better than 960 m atbt gear
civic palm
Garrote being so cheap also made it so it was almost fucking impossible to mess it up.
quick talon
sure but was filler it wasnt really an increase to use to get from 4 to 5 cp
civic palm
A lot of flexibility when something that used to cost so much was now basically free.
bold dune
basically free is a bit of a stretch
grim jay
atbt is a trigger @manic vigil