assassination

[torn coyote]

within 30%?

[brave gyro]

If you have shoulders, you should still use Envenom, no?

[lone junco]

yes. env

[main walrus]

@brave gyro Yeah I hear ya, just not ready I don't think. 2/11 is the best I'm at, keeping it easy lol

200% mast now.. I like that # lol

[lone junco]

this is a good example of fight lenght just too long for the 2:30 vanish to be out of bracer, but fight ends before your next vanish.

[brave gyro]

I mean, atm I decided to not push Mythic. We just do a weekly run with my guild, just "casually progressing" and we are like 6/11 atm I think (i am 4/11 personally)

[lone junco]

its because your vanish at 2:15 got delayed to 2:45 due to vendetta cdr

[heavy plover]

Wait just scrolled up why did people react with "haHAA" to some guy saying he liked someone WA's

[brave gyro]

Oh my mastery is really bad - im at like 161% or something

[main walrus]

Ah right on. The guild I'm in is 9/11 now I believe, perhaps in time I'll get there.

[torn coyote]

so delay everything for bracer ?

[main walrus]

27/15/200/5.. vers is low for me

[torn coyote]

i mean for 30%?

[main walrus]

An enchant and gem I'll prob be at 205 mast but might put in vers depending on my sim I;m doing

[lone junco]

if your fight TTD is 1 min 45 sec at 33% boss life. (just above bracer, and not enough time for another vanish). then it is your gamble to hold vanish for next vendetta alignment.

its is a tricky spot, and why i like bracerboot.

[indigo epoch]

Ah I see.

[lone junco]

other option would be take a breather and pool a few sec for the vendetta vanish right at 30%. but sometimes fight mechanics help you with that choice.

[heavy plover]

967 ilvl with no bracer, boots, or shoulders feelsbadman

[void pecan]

Tfw you obviously started playing semi recently and complain about Lego drops

[main walrus]

936 here lol

[heavy plover]

i did start playing recently, when did i complain?

[indigo epoch]

Still sucks to be Lego limited when the rest of your gear is on point

[heavy plover]

i agree

[gilded lark]

The trick is

[viscid helm]

i mean you get like 3 legos a week

rn

[gilded lark]

Stick with a spec long enough to get all legos

[heavy plover]

i'm working on it, should have another on wednesday feelsgood

[gilded lark]

And ye, 2/week is pretty fuckin standard

[indigo epoch]

Especially when some make such a big difference, shoulders made Assasination feel so much better to me

[heavy plover]

i'd say 3 is a bit of an exaggeration

[brave gyro]

You know. It really sucks having to skip 1 month of progress, and then coming back, competing as 955 against 975's xD

[worthy thistle]

what WA are ppl using to see how long boss will last?

[viscid helm]

[worthy thistle]

estimated time left

[viscid helm]

There is no such thing, unless it takes the info from you're own Bigwigs/DBM w/e

from recent kills

[lone junco]

@torn coyote and last nitpick. i would worry less about stacking the TBKB and more about trying to get the 3env during TB

goodl

bad

[worthy thistle]

i know there is something but i never bothered to get it so just figured someone here used it

[lone junco]

i think you are going into the TB running dry.

[sand whale]

you know that WA question got me interested as I thought surely no one would ever make such a thing

but

https://wago.io/B1FWGHLrf

it exists

[gilded lark]

It's also part of ERT

[keen inlet]

Yeah

[sand whale]

do people not like do anything but look at their buttons these days

[keen inlet]

I was gonna say there's absolutely a WA

that does that

guy that pugs with us regularly will say time left on boss, it's pretty accurate all things considered

[gilded lark]

Just get exorsus raid tools instead of using 100 weakauras for shit like that lol

[vapid moth]

i just started a 20 man brawl

on a PvE server

[torn coyote]

welll noobe sometimes u cant fit 3 envo in tb cuz energy so i get 1 insta and 2nd one in last secs of tb

[gilded lark]

Is that code for gangbang mr moonguard

[torn coyote]

to keep my buffs up

[lone junco]

i get it.

[vapid moth]

lmao no

havent touched my moon guard character since that day actually

[viscid helm]

Sure that WA might work on bosses like GArothi and Vari

[worthy thistle]

oh never knew ert had it implemented thx

[viscid helm]

i don't see how its any use in an actual fight that has any mechanics

[keen inlet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sand whale]

wts raid sense

[worthy thistle]

well its not perfect obviously but ive heard times are accurate enough as well

[keen inlet]

it's useful when you're worried about enrage timers etc

[lone junco]

ERT just re-estimates in about 5 sec after re-contacting boss

[worthy thistle]

sure dont use it then

[torn coyote]

so u recomading to pool before toxic blades come out of cd ?

[lone junco]

if you can. without delay of TB

[shrewd oriole]

@gaunt moat I have a date with an israeli girl on friday

[lone junco]

you dont need to be low e all the time.

[shrewd oriole]

you got tips for me?

[worthy thistle]

u could also raid without dbm/bigwigs/WA at all because gamesense but u dont 🤔

[lone junco]

@torn coyote the 3 env in TB is really a function of high crit. but at least try to get 2x

[viscid helm]

nice logic

cos that's exactly the same thing

[worthy thistle]

sure is

[mental heath]

Some sassy ladies in here today huh?

[lone junco]

@torn coyote let me find some other player samples.

[torn coyote]

okay

[keen inlet]

very sassy 🙄

[brave gyro]

Is CoF still good for Sin (with boots and 3x MA relics) ? Like, if I get a high, relenquished one

[viscid helm]

not really

[lone junco]

like this. the vendetta pushes the E. he almost gets 3x here.

I picked that specifcially because it is a good peak with zero bomb.

just played well.

[sand whale]

well each to their own I remember people using some rotation helper where they jsut hit whatever lights up infront of them. some WAs bossmods track timers which is great to preplan as a raid but if you're using it to see when to use a CD these things are pretty much set in stone. From a RL perspective there's better tools to measure raid edps

[lone junco]

there is a kb just prior to that vendetta

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole yeah, send pics

[shrewd oriole]

pm or here?

[gaunt moat]

PM

[torn coyote]

so i should get 3 envo within tb

[viscid helm]

here

obviously

[shrewd oriole]

flowi's the mod

lemme just wipe, 1 sec

[safe matrix]

What kind of pics are you sending

????????

[shrewd oriole]

just instagram

[lone junco]

work on env uptime during kb. all the way to the end. and 2 or 3 env during the 9 sec tb. dont delay your tbs, and keep track of your bracer window for the vanish.

thats all i got.

[torn coyote]

about vanish

should i use it on cd ?

even if other abilities on cd ?

[brave gyro]

Depends how long the fight is I guess

[lone junco]

use it with the vendetta.

[torn coyote]

lets say long fight

[lone junco]

long fight with vendetta.

until ttd <2min

then you need to track that last one into bracer.

[torn coyote]

ttd stand for what

[lone junco]

time to death

[safe matrix]

You don't try to match vanish with tb?

TIL

[brave gyro]

TB you should use on CD, its too short of a CD to hold on to

[safe matrix]

I mean hold vanish for tb

[safe matrix]

Buff the empowered envenoms

[viscid helm]

[lone junco]

yes. at vanish. I would line it up

[viscid helm]

[safe matrix]

Tom is that you?

[shrewd oriole]

nah

my israeli date on friday

[quick talon]

fuck her dude

[shrewd oriole]

im a d00d

was asking notter for tips

[lone junco]

fancy

[keen inlet]

nice dox imma send her pics of some of the things you say broh

[shrewd oriole]

so I assume mentioning palestine is a no no?

[safe matrix]

Why are you asking notter

[lone junco]

that would be a no no

[shrewd oriole]

cuz notter is from israel ahah

[quick talon]

well

notter is mr stealyogirl

he just wanted her instagram

he is probably already doing her

[shrewd oriole]

kek

[safe matrix]

Well I think she Israeli good looking

[quick talon]

omg

[shrewd oriole]

lmao

[safe matrix]

You can use that

I give you my permission

My son

[shrewd oriole]

yeah if i wanna make sure I ruin the date

[quick talon]

notter is playing darkest dungeon

probably exploring her vag

irl

[shrewd oriole]

LOL

[viscid helm]

lmao

[safe matrix]

Oh man I just thought of something disgustinf

But also hilarious

[shrewd oriole]

pm

[safe matrix]

👀

[gaunt moat]

where's the pics

[safe matrix]

Scroll up

[shrewd oriole]

she's jewish, vegan AND does crossfit

[vale marsh]

mastery or versatility

[safe matrix]

Mastery

[shrewd oriole]

mastery

[vale marsh]

ty

[torn coyote]

about aggra mythic i know subs would build thier cp on adds but what about sin ?

[safe matrix]

I feel like if she ever entered a bar there's a joke about that.

[torn coyote]

should i just ignore adds and st boss?

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole vegan... would stay away :X

[safe matrix]

Just replace all the sausage jokes with cucumber jokes

EZ

[gaunt moat]

also, my gf is from ukraine, israeli girls are not great.

[viscid helm]

Why are you trying to ruin this for Tom

[shrewd oriole]

assa discord toxic as usual

[safe matrix]

Because notter wants tom all for himself

It's for love

[shrewd oriole]

😂

[keen inlet]

Holy shit

Liavri is unstoppable

[safe matrix]

I'm not unstoppable, I'm Liavre

hehe xd

[keen inlet]

Annnnnd it's gone

[safe matrix]

FeelsBadMan

[tranquil birch]

Wow sub parses are so easy to get now

that everyone is playing sin

[strange python]

Is that a woman?

[prime void]

liavre, why are you blue again

[safe matrix]

I'm just always sad

[prime void]

sad and bad cuz tank

[safe matrix]

Ye, hasn't happened yet but will soon

[lone junco]

We're totally going to be 1/11 tonight.

[supple hearth]

I'm totally gonna 🥄 someone tonight who down

[lone junco]

Should be able to do it with 17-18

[prime void]

not down

[safe matrix]

I can't see that emoji

[lone junco]

Spoon me 🍦

[safe matrix]

I haven't updated my phone

[crystal fox]

i'm totally 🥄able giggle

[safe matrix]

Go fork yourself

Or as my friend always used to say "spooning leads to forking"

[supple hearth]

Let's play a game.
Instead of marry kill fok
🥄 🗡 :fork:

Of the Ravenholdt mods and despots.

Go

[lone junco]

[shrewd oriole]

@lone junco did u kill argus?

[lone junco]

prob tonight.

[shrewd oriole]

well that's easy

[viscid helm]

kill Notter

[shrewd oriole]

I'd spoon with notter

kill giggle

and kill giggle

[supple hearth]

🔪

[shrewd oriole]

sorry auto correct

[crystal fox]

ill 🥄 giggle, fork don, kill notter

[supple hearth]

@shrewd oriole who would u fork

[shrewd oriole]

wtf why kill notter

I'd fork jose

[safe matrix]

I'd FoK myself tbh

Also what about kind boy fuu?

[shrewd oriole]

mturemen

[turbid harbor]

marry stjern, kill giggle, fok notter

[shrewd oriole]

maturemen*

[turbid harbor]

only acceptable answer

[shrewd oriole]

dunno me and notter

have more in common than me and jose

[gaunt moat]

anyone seen giggle lately?

[shrewd oriole]

I'd rather marry notter

[quick talon]

giggle typed

just few minutes ago notter

do you even read the chat

[turbid harbor]

if giggle dies does everybody banned come back to life?

that would be an added bonus

[quick talon]

Also:
marry don, fuck giggle, kill infexious

[crystal fox]

giggle cant die, giggle is an idea,a movement, hope

[safe matrix]

Marry fuu, fuck you (yes you) and kill notter

Tbh

[crystal fox]

don is lurking,reveal yourself!

step out of the shadows

WHO GOES THERE?

[safe matrix]

What are you hiding?

[keen inlet]

Driving this awful loaner Ford taurus

[shrewd oriole]

dont text and drive > : (

[safe matrix]

Driving and discarding?

[keen inlet]

Just got home

[plush musk]

Hi everybody !

[keen inlet]

Don't drive and meme kiddos

[safe matrix]

But what if my whole life is a meme

[viscid helm]

yes we can all see that you have nitro Don

[safe matrix]

Now you can spread all of RH memes across the class discords

Oh wait

[shrewd oriole]

RH memes

kek

[bold mountain]

Mail call

[lone junco]

RIP the fok prophet

[quick talon]

@bold dune http://www.wowhead.com/news=282071/wow-mvp-program-recruitment-now-open?webhook/wow-mvp-program-recruitment-now-open

also what RH memes?

https://i.gyazo.com/fc190f1539ac7adf16e271e8171f1786.png

[lone junco]

@bold mountain good luck

[quick talon]

@bold mountain nice bitcoins

[keen inlet]

@viscid helm i feel like eeyore would be a better avatar for you

Because you're a GRUMP!

[safe matrix]

rude

[keen inlet]

😤

[safe matrix]

Mods

Ban this toxic boy

[lone junco]

that was the day I was green.

Fok Meems

[viscid helm]

[lone junco]

👮

[quick talon]

yes we can all see that you have nitro Flowi

[lone junco]

lets see some flowi > weak parses with alacrity tho.

[viscid helm]

weak is already depressed enough

leave it at that

[manic vigil]

I always thought weak outdps'ed flowi. must have looked at the first picture wrong back when they deded argus

[quick talon]

that was pre alacrity

[manic vigil]

weak is a mighty frost mage now anyway

[safe matrix]

Rogue learns this one SECRET technique that weak HATES him for

Click here to find out more

[celest mirage]

how golganneths in m+?

[keen inlet]

Click

[celest mirage]

hows*

[manic vigil]

someone got to flowi

deleted and silenced

send help

[crystal fox]

flowi gone? finally

[tulip grotto]

How much crit is needed for sin

[crystal fox]

five

[safe matrix]

All of it

[tulip grotto]

%wise please

[manic vigil]

chu want?!

there's no magic number

[tulip grotto]

Is it as much as possible or is there a baseline

[manic vigil]

just stab things

[safe matrix]

It's hard to get a percent, sim your stat weights and find out that way

[manic vigil]

who had the raidbots emote? gieF

[quick talon]

I wouldnt want to play T21 with less than 30% crit

[safe matrix]

Everyone different cause different builds

[manic vigil]

please post so I can shamelessly steal

[tulip grotto]

I have 38

[manic vigil]

plenty

[tulip grotto]

I main sub but sin op so

[viscid helm]

I have 70% crit

[tulip grotto]

Trying to learn some

[safe matrix]

wtf

No you dont

[crystal fox]

22% crit,fight me

[safe matrix]

70?

[viscid helm]

okay okay

[manic vigil]

[viscid helm]

60%

10% from dog

[tulip grotto]

i have 140

When in stealth

[lone junco]

Please talk about crit in terms of Mut crit. That's all that matters.

99% with argus buffs.

[manic vigil]

but FoK

mah aoe deeps

oh wait

say flowi, go ahead

[viscid helm]

argus buffs

[manic vigil]

ded

[viscid helm]

yeh better enjoy that 99% for the whole 1min it lasts

[lone junco]

FOK. I haven't heard that name in years.

[crystal fox]

maybe i should go outlaw, cause im not a big Fan of Knives 😄

[manic vigil]

......

[quick talon]

oh my god

[manic vigil]

get outta here

[viscid helm]

these RH memes are so bad

can you guys actually come up with something new

[quick talon]

share some memento memes

[viscid helm]

weak

[manic vigil]

weak is a meme

?!

[lone junco]

Is there a medium skip in antorus. Like something that will get us to imonar maybe

[viscid helm]

yes

[void pecan]

Kill first boss then run to TP thing

go to exaust

after 4 kills on imonar

[lone junco]

The other one is to aggrimar. Right.

K

[quick talon]

KK

[manic vigil]

[viscid helm]

K

[manic vigil]

what other class(es) are you playing flowi?

[viscid helm]

[quick talon]

Flowi isnt playing the game at all

[manic vigil]

you love this game don't you

[gaunt moat]

he means in PoE flowi

[manic vigil]

[shrewd oriole]

PoE is so sick

[quick talon]

poe next league when

[shrewd oriole]

wait flowi you play poe?

[manic vigil]

too much economics by now

[viscid helm]

next month

[shrewd oriole]

@quick talon march 3rd

[manic vigil]

nice game aside from that tho

[viscid helm]

were taking raiding break

[shrewd oriole]

flowi, add me

[quick talon]

lets gooo

[viscid helm]

cos to many people play PoE

so not enough people to raid

[shrewd oriole]

wait do you play hardcore or are you a girlie

[viscid helm]

depends on the league

i've played both

[quick talon]

memento farming those maps like mad man

[shrewd oriole]

alright alright fair

I think I'm sticking to HC

next league

[quick talon]

any infos about next league ?

[shrewd oriole]

ye

check website

[quick talon]

aight

[shrewd oriole]

it's pokemon league

[quick talon]

gys

[lone junco]

tom. one of my favorite past times, is to complain about how much I hate poe currency and trading.

[viscid helm]

im just waiting for the ascendancy reworks at this point

[shrewd oriole]

one of your favorite past times is to complain period

What do you usually play flowi

[viscid helm]

everything tbh

not mines tho

cba

[shrewd oriole]

Fair

mines are aids

I dig summoners a ton

srs is my favorite build pretty much

took it to 98 this league on HC then died

[quick talon]

"The release of Path of Exile 3.0.0 later this year will herald a new era of Path of Exile."

[viscid helm]

yeh my last build of abyss was Solarguard/tukh

[bold dune]

@quick talon my forum account's not in good standing, I can't apply 😦

[quick talon]

hence the tag

[shrewd oriole]

tukh with shield is so pogchamp

[quick talon]

new league reading good

[viscid helm]

https://gfycat.com/FreeHilariousBlackpanther

[quick talon]

might actually have something to do 3.3

[viscid helm]

check this

was fun

[shrewd oriole]

poets pen lmao

I played that as well

[viscid helm]

i was hoping for ignite comeback with the reworks, but i doubt they gonna make it elementalist only

maybe next expansion

[quick talon]

maybe baby

[shrewd oriole]

same

I think I'm just gonna play summoner

always a good league starter

[viscid helm]

should be fine for uber

[shrewd oriole]

uber atziri or uber shaper

[viscid helm]

elder/shaper

[dire spoke]

Tom how was Argus

[shrewd oriole]

dont

[dire spoke]

):

[shrewd oriole]

dont fucking say a word about argus

our resto shaman is actually so fucking dumb

https://gyazo.com/eebf011a74aea4a12f6b58df35fcb1b6

that's him

Yeah I think summoner will be good for uber elder/shaper

not so much srs tho

[viscid helm]

gotta make some meme build with shield throw

[shrewd oriole]

for sure

[dire spoke]

wow

[shrewd oriole]

cant wait to see the shaped uniques

[quick talon]

so RH group on poe

[shrewd oriole]

for sure

whats ur ign @quick talon @viscid helm

I'll add y'all

[viscid helm]

Flowiqt

i think

[crystal fox]

wow

[shrewd oriole]

apparently wowhead is paying my guildie 200 for the prot pala guide

that's some nice cash hot damn

[viscid helm]

wat

[shrewd oriole]

right

[viscid helm]

i should ask noxxic

[civic palm]

200 is low

[viscid helm]

what they would pay me

[civic palm]

Someone is getting ripped off.

[void pecan]

He doesn't get income per visit or some shit?

Just 200 and done?

[shrewd oriole]

200 for like 9 hours of work

is not bad at all

lemme ask

[civic palm]

If it's his first time, sure.

[shrewd oriole]

ye first time writting a guide

it's just for m+ as well

[civic palm]

Mmm, k.

So like a mini thing?

Class Guides for BfA are worth a lot more than that, for sure.

[shrewd oriole]

it's for legion

[civic palm]

Yeah

and it's late.

like... really late.

[shrewd oriole]

and idk mini per se he's doing a cover of every dungeon

alongside gearing

ye it's super late

[void pecan]

In-depth guide for 200 seems low now.

[civic palm]

The timing is murdering the value IMO.

[shrewd oriole]

ye expac is over

[civic palm]

Yo buy try to get in under the BfA push > _>

[shrewd oriole]

he said it's flat 200

but if the feedback is good, they'll pay him substancially more for bfa ones

[civic palm]

Yeah exactly.

[void pecan]

I guess that's okay then

[shrewd oriole]

ye

[civic palm]

While I don't really like the concept of exposure payment, getting your foot in the door can end up well.

[shrewd oriole]

he's inexperience in guide writting as well so

@viscid helm cant dm u but the char name isnt working

[viscid helm]

lemme try to add you

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/ihkhyj

[gaunt moat]

why would they approach some random guy who never wrote a guide and ask him to make a guide for them?

[shrewd oriole]

r1 prot pala

[civic palm]

Experience in the topic I imagine.

[shrewd oriole]

not exactly a random guy ahaha

[gaunt moat]

being rank 1 doesn't mean you know how to write a guide

[civic palm]

True.

[shrewd oriole]

true

[civic palm]

But asking doesn't amount to anything.

[shrewd oriole]

maybe they interviewed him idk

[civic palm]

and if the guy is like 👍 sure I can give it a go.

[gaunt moat]

why aren't they asking me? 😦

[shrewd oriole]

you're casual

[strange python]

Just hit 110 and have an ilvl of 841. Pulling about 300k dps. Good?

[gaunt moat]

😢

[civic palm]

Because you're a rabbit...

[crystal fox]

they cant afford you notter

[gaunt moat]

yeah my low low price of nothing

[shrewd oriole]

plus

dont write guides for wowhead

[viscid helm]

wonder if noxxic would pay me

for sin guide

[civic palm]

A bag of generic jerky.

[viscid helm]

could literally just write "dead class" and it would be more accurate than the current guide there

[deft willow]

so odd qustion is the Broken Crown any Good?

[shrewd oriole]

yes

[gaunt moat]

@strange python i'm not sure if you're trolling or not... but at this point of the expansion, there's nothing to compare your damage to.
try getting to at least 930 or something ilvl first

[deft willow]

@shrewd oriole was that yes to me?

[shrewd oriole]

yes

[crystal fox]

crown is good yes

[viscid helm]

its good unless you have access to T21 4pc

[deft willow]

i have the 4 pc without the helm

[viscid helm]

tier helm being basically the best tier piece stat wise kinda drops crowns value

[civic palm]

Also, IIRC the crafted helmet is still very fucking strong.

But since you have Crown already, screw that noise.

[deft willow]

so if i can get tier helm replace Tier back with Leggo?

[viscid helm]

what

[civic palm]

Use raidbots at that point and find what is best for you that way.

[void pecan]

^

[deft willow]

kk will do

[shrewd oriole]

added you btw flowi

[chilly plume]

boots are better then wrists ? cose both gves me the same dps in simc

[shrewd oriole]

wrists are better

[viscid helm]

Bracers are pretty much the best lego for Sin

people tend to switch boots/mantle

[quick talon]

bracers is like the only bis lego

the rest is most like offpiece dependent

[chilly plume]

and shoulders ?

[quick talon]

Shoulders are fine

[chilly plume]

when i reatch at 30 % in a boss the dps doesnt change that mutch

maybe im doin something wrong

[strange python]

u should use second pot there

[chilly plume]

my sim does 1.9 dps im doing almost 2 M some times 2.10

i allways forget that second pot

[vapid moth]

30% extra dps brings your 1mill dps to a bit under 1.09mill

[lone junco]

They have editors for the guide. They just want the name.

R1 ? K. Stick your name on this site.

[strange python]

@gaunt moat no troll, just curious. Thank you for the info

but at all ive done good xp with mantle/boots too

[chilly plume]

i think need better stats for boots

i got 200% mastery

i still need neck and ring

[civic palm]

You need better other gear, 200% mastery is more than fine.

[chilly plume]

and 2 relics poison

[civic palm]

If you are dropping shoulders you will need a large increase in Crit.

[chilly plume]

my crits arounf 23%

to low

[civic palm]

Yes

[neon moat]

Sorry i dont want to read pins and all that cuz im just asking for a guild mate. Are there any soft/hard caps for rogue atm?

[civic palm]

For SIN? No

[shrewd oriole]

no

[neon moat]

Thanks 😃

[shrewd oriole]

appreciate the honesty

[civic palm]

He's lazy and lying.

Dun dun DUUUUUUUUUUUN

[viscid helm]

i mean who'd wanna read the guide anyway

[neon moat]

haha

[shrewd oriole]

yeh it's written by notter

[civic palm]

Are caps even mentioned in the guide? lol

[manic vigil]

why would you ask for a mate anyway? why can't he ask himself?

[shrewd oriole]

cuz his mate doesnt wanan read the guide

LUL

[manic vigil]

too shy?

[neon moat]

He didnt know about rogue discord

He does now 😛

[manic vigil]

well you could have told him

[neon moat]

Yeah

[manic vigil]

[neon moat]

Thats me just being nice lol, my rogues a boosted piece of trash for insane title

[strange python]

Crit: 8,153 Haste: 2,486 Mastery: 17,644 Versatility: 4,017 .. stats from my boots/mantle setup

[quick talon]

even if its late into the xpac

a guide for a "big" site for 200

is pure scam

[chilly plume]

8k crit

[strange python]

in % .. 31% 7% 205% (mos) 8%

[chilly plume]

its like 35% ?

[civic palm]

Even if it's just for his name, that's not enough money.

Especially considering his rank.

[quick talon]

But thats what people do

starting with a low offer

[chilly plume]

how mutch dps u doing with that stats

[quick talon]

hoping the guy youre talking to is retarded enough to accept it

[strange python]

using only 1ma

[manic vigil]

It had to be done mizerok 🤷

[strange python]

i can take a sim for u

[viscid helm]

i wouldnt accept anything under 1k for my name

[chilly plume]

in game

how mutch you can do

[quick talon]

think about the traffic

[manic vigil]

1k for flowiqt wew

[quick talon]

the guide will come in handy for all those plebs

trying to go big in mdi

200 is a flithy joke holy fuck

[strange python]

it depends on procs etc ..

varimathras hc ive done 2.5m+ .. on 3min and few seconds

[quick talon]

you cant procc money

O

[chilly plume]

2.5 thats alot

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole what's the name of the guy btw?

[shrewd oriole]

Divinefield

[gaunt moat]

heh thought so

that's why i asked

he was in the guild with me

but he quit to play more CS

[shrewd oriole]

really ahah

when?

[quick talon]

new season in fortnite tmrw

anyone playing?

hmu

[gaunt moat]

EN-NH

to be more percise he was my RL

[shrewd oriole]

oh

do you like him?

[gaunt moat]

yeah

[civic palm]

💌

[gaunt moat]

except when he stopped giving a fuck

then it got bad

[quick talon]

unhealthy relationship

[shrewd oriole]

ye he's very much like that

[gaunt moat]

he was listening to music instead of TS etc.

late to raid that kinda stuff

but before that, was great playing with him

[shrewd oriole]

im glad, I quite like him as well

[gaunt moat]

like every week

he would make sure every single person got his m+ done

and got +15 achivement (it was at kinda the start of expansion)

[dire spoke]

sounds like me giving up on raid

[viscid helm]

i mean who listens to TS on raids

[dire spoke]

we had coven at 11% today, then ppl won't stop dying randomly for another 15 pulls

[signal ice]

Welcome to raiding

[strange python]

its everywhere the same 😄

[signal ice]

People just randomly dying to anything and everything.

[shrewd oriole]

that's quite nice

he's a cool guy just gets flustered sometimes

fucking carries our healing for sure

[dire spoke]

yeah

[grim canopy]

wow i got cloack still no shoulders

[dire spoke]

mainly our healers died

[grim canopy]

every week disssapointment

why the hell leggo that powerful dumb

[viscid helm]

what

[strange python]

every argus kill since weeks is an dissapointment

[gaunt moat]

@shrewd oriole anyway, let him know i left ethic 😛

[grim canopy]

i have 7 so far no boot, wrist, or shoulder

so i just log in for the daily essences feels crap playing

[signal ice]

Head is still good at least

[strange python]

everyone who maintained rogue has all legos

[grim canopy]

i rerolled

forgot it's legion

[strange python]

my first 3 were shoulders wrist head

omegalul

[grim canopy]

afflock was too fotm

[signal ice]

Yeah since a couple of weeks into tos, I had everything

[strange python]

and crown .. xD i like it ;P

me too shadowlith

[grim canopy]

can't wait for bfa none of this trash

[void pecan]

inb4 it's worse.

[strange python]

probably will be

[civic palm]

Nah so far there is far less randomness in loot.

[strange python]

2.297.021 DPS crown/boots i dont know why it sims soo stronk

crown always sims higher than wrists for me feelsbad

me too

crown bracer are 4k dps behind that crown boots thing

mantle/bracer is 2.271 ..

[dire spoke]

we all should ditch mantle

and act like it doesn't exist

[void pecan]

I wear bracer boots mostly in raid

but I have 960 off pieces

[strange python]

simming bracer boots now

😛

2.280.738 DPS .. with 940 arcway ring

dislike

but still higher than mantle

😮

[molten flicker]

is this good?

[strange python]

hmm maybe i go m+ now and hunt some stormsinger procs in bossfights for the 9m env

[shrewd oriole]

fuck you

honestly

die

[round pine]

Hey guys with mantle/Bracers should I prioritize mastery for execute phase? I've simmed and best gear gets a smidge more dps but sacrifices quite of bit of mastery

[molten flicker]

what

you can't change gear when boss gets in execute phase

[viscid helm]

you cant?

[shrewd oriole]

vanish equip bracers

what are you doing kazuya

cmon

[strange python]

ez gameplay

[shrewd oriole]

bet you play TB

sigh..

[molten flicker]

😊

[round pine]

I mean just go by sim in terms of the gear or stack mastery. It's probably not enough of a difference one way or another I'm guessing

[molten flicker]

go by the sim

[safe matrix]

Sim>feelcraft

[molten flicker]

there's a lot of difference actually

I can equip gear to reach 270% mastery or so

but I would lose tons of dps

[safe matrix]

👀

[molten flicker]

lets sim with this

500k dps behind my normal setup

over 5 min single target

[void pecan]

I wonder why

[molten flicker]

😄

[void pecan]

🤔

[molten flicker]

I mean that guy did ask if it'd be better to stack mastery or go by the sim

[safe matrix]

A different talent set up might be interesting to look at

Maybe even alacrity cause poisons will hit a lot harder

Or maybe stick with tb for the burst

[manic vigil]

we don't say the a word here

it will summon evil flowi

[viscid helm]

[manic vigil]

[molten flicker]

how many pantheon trinkets do u guys use in sims?

[strange python]

zero

[viscid helm]

0

[shrewd oriole]

8 max, 0 most of the time

[molten flicker]

I usually use 8

[viscid helm]

i mean it uses amanthuls

[molten flicker]

yep

[viscid helm]

so its not realistic at all

[shrewd oriole]

yep

[viscid helm]

you get fucked by tank trinkets in ral situation

if you dont have 2 tanks with the trinket

good fucking luck

thats as good as simming with 0

[shrewd oriole]

p much

[molten flicker]

tbf the tank trinkets proc a lot

[shrewd oriole]

both our tanks are forced to use it

[viscid helm]

yes thats my point

tank trinket is the only thing

that carries the procs

if you dont have tank trinkets, even if you have 4 different ones

[strange python]

and trinket procs doesnt count for any other content like m+ (panth jingles)

[safe matrix]

Also if you sim the baseline, you can only move up

[viscid helm]

uptime will prob be 0

[safe matrix]

M+ I had all 5 pantheons once

In the group

[shrewd oriole]

doesnt work

[molten flicker]

well pantheon is deactivated in m+

so

[strange python]

it wouldnt proct

[shrewd oriole]

doesnt proc outside of raids

[safe matrix]

Aww

I didn't know that

FeelsBadMan

[strange python]

zero to hero .. get ur base dps and all will be good

[molten flicker]

base effect is on everywhere, pantheon effect only on inside antorus

doesn't even work in tomb etc

[viscid helm]

now i just need to get amanthul for that 25k DPS increase

[safe matrix]

I want amanthuls so it can sit in my bags

Actually

[strange python]

i wont use the fucking twisters on m+ but i am forced cause ilvl and "twister" dmg ;9

[safe matrix]

Have any of you seen an amanthuls drop?

Cause no one in my raid has

[strange python]

i did

[viscid helm]

one

[strange python]

some kazzak boii

[molten flicker]

nope

nobody in my raid team has any

[viscid helm]

some casual in Memento

[molten flicker]

on any character

[viscid helm]

got it

[strange python]

on my guild the same

no one has it on main or alt

[safe matrix]

Ye I was just wondering if they were waiting until the pantheon 1k week

[strange python]

and get back to the fact that argus killing is every week an disapointment

[junior trout]

with no tier and no legendaries, what build is better?

I mean talents

[safe matrix]

Cause I have legit never seen it

[molten flicker]

one of our new trials got it on an alt this week

[safe matrix]

Poison probably

[shut willow]

we have 3 people that have aman'thuls

[safe matrix]

It's easier to get into

[shut willow]

all on amanFUCKINGALT'luls

not a single person has it on main

[strange python]

any1 has amanthuls id for simc ?

[shut willow]

but we have a ton of alts in the guild

most people had 2-3 geared enough for heroic antorus

[molten flicker]

we have 25 people with 3+ chars geared for mythic

[viscid helm]

why so tryhard

[shut willow]

and no aman'lols?

[signal ice]

We have aman'thuls on a main that can't use it. Since its worse than the other pantheon trinkets.

[molten flicker]

no amanlols

[shut willow]

i mean, the drop rate is shite

[molten flicker]

😄

[lone junco]

960 melandrus.

[shut willow]

one of ours is on a 910 shaman if i remember right

[lone junco]

I have some quality luck with rings.

[molten flicker]

amanthuls is null for me vs 995 golg

0.0% change

with 0 pantheon in raid

[civic palm]

AT procs are a linear upgrade over Golgs.

[slim siren]

hey does 1.1 mil dps seem low for a 945 assassin rogue?

[civic palm]

Things get pulled out of twister, woohoo.

Very low.

[molten flicker]

at 20 pantheon in raid it's 1.1% upg

[slim siren]

does the set bonus or zoldacks make that much of a differance

[safe matrix]

Yeap

Probably also relics

[civic palm]

Again, I think the static procs on AT make it better than having Golgs.

[safe matrix]

And trinkets

[civic palm]

Yeah, relics, tier, leggos, all matter a lot.,

trinkets are at least simple this time around.

Mastery stick and a crit stick are probably very much over par.

[slim siren]

im running gorsha and forgemaster cause i got nothing else

[safe matrix]

Yeap

Garbage

[civic palm]

Keep at it. Gamble when you can, hope for better.

The nice thing about bad trinkets is that almost anything will be an upgrade 😄

[safe matrix]

Hounds/seeping/panth trink

[slim siren]

well they are 945s so i dont know how ill upgrade them that fast

[safe matrix]

Are probably the ones you want

[slim siren]

yea ive been rolling for the hounds one evry week

[safe matrix]

Sleeping too tbh

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[strange python]

me too but ive an 965 eoc .. i am "fine"

[slim siren]

how much is the set bonus worth?

[molten flicker]

man just get

[safe matrix]

Alot

[civic palm]

A tremendous amount.

[slim siren]

oh ok

[civic palm]

People made fun of the small NRG gain but it's dramatic.

[molten flicker]

yea, you feel very starved without 4 set

after playing with it

[slim siren]

i have no set sadly. so the combo of that and no zoldacks is probablay why i do low dps

[civic palm]

Feels like you don't have poisons on, or no bleeds on.

[molten flicker]

tbh the legendaries are not that important

[civic palm]

Tier is more.

[molten flicker]

as long as u have 2 in the top 4-5

[civic palm]

No flexibility there really.

[slim siren]

isgnia and shoulderrs

[civic palm]

Get the pieces you can, fill in with the legendaries you have.

[slim siren]

is what im running

[molten flicker]

ye, with those legendaries you're not far behind

[civic palm]

Insignia/Shoulders are good. 👌

[slim siren]

on st fights really

[molten flicker]

insignia is usless on aoe

for assa

[civic palm]

Yeah, FoK is very good.

Crit + Socket + free damage is still good on ST.

MUT isn't a ton of damage but again, free damage is free damage.

[slim siren]

mut

?

[civic palm]

Mutilate.

[slim siren]

oh '

[molten flicker]

there are better legendaries, but getting gear with mastery on it and good trinkets matter more

[slim siren]

at 130 mast

[civic palm]

Yeah, and you can only use what leggos you have, no fucking around with that.

[molten flicker]

as well as the set

[strange python]

multilate rogue vitamins

[slim siren]

31 crit 30 haste 130 mast 7 vers

anything wrong there

[civic palm]

So, gamble for either relics or trinkets, whichever are worse.

30 haste is 28 too many

[strange python]

for outlul u should dump mastery

into versa

[slim siren]

i play assassin onlt

[strange python]

and keep arround 50%

whops :;(

[slim siren]

lol

[civic palm]

YaDork 😛

[slim siren]

so verse over haste?

[civic palm]

You want literally no haste for SIN.

2% I think is as low as you can go.

[slim siren]

when did that shot change lol i remeber hate was right below mast last time i played

[civic palm]

Your leggos might have haste so there's a limit to how low it can be.

If your gear is very low level then stats are going to be all over the place.

The more mastery you get the better it becomes, and the worse haste quickly becomes.

Same with Agility.

It will get worse and worse.

Almost as bad as Mastery.

[slim siren]

master is bad?

[molten flicker]

no

[slim siren]

mastery?

[civic palm]

The more Mastery you have the better Mastery becomes.

and the worst Haste becomes.

and Agility.

[slim siren]

oh ok. so im good at 130 mast. need to dump a main stat haste neck then

so would mastery crit be best?

[molten flicker]

yes

[civic palm]

Correct.

You want a literal infinite pile of mastery.

It cannot be bad for you.

[strange python]

mastery versa can be fine too

[civic palm]

Yeah, mastery/crit/vers, all fine.

[slim siren]

i knew that one lol. glad it came back after AP was gone

[strange python]

if u keep crits about 3x% or mantle setup

[slim siren]

i miss AP so much

[civic palm]

AP is awful.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slim siren]

i loved AP

[civic palm]

It needs another buff to its' proc, and we need literally no adds on anything.

Haste is pretty awful.

[slim siren]

im talking about AP aganozing posion?

[civic palm]

Yarrr

[molten flicker]

yes

there's no other AP

[strange python]

it was fine with dos meta

[slim siren]

you didnt need 1 target only

[civic palm]

Artifact Power 😛

[strange python]

the content was fun

[steep obsidian]

the only + about ap was it gave you an excuse to tunnel

[strange python]

with spoulders ;p

[civic palm]

AP was better before it was removed, previously you could be attacking a target and get no procs and it could fall off.

[steep obsidian]

it was fucking horrid mechanic

[slim siren]

it was removed thats the reason i quit rogue for awhile

[molten flicker]

O:

[civic palm]

The interplay between AP, SoT, and ENV was nice for Nighthold, but it was poorly designed.

Could have been better though,.

That's for sure.

[strange python]

ap was at least rly fucking slowmo gameplay

[civic palm]

Gotta, ramp up muh damage.

Woo

DP at least let's you Cleave/AoE without feeling awful.

Though now Poison Knives is very very bad.

[molten flicker]

yes 😦

[shrewd oriole]

I think the lowest haste I can go is 2.4

Which is what I’m at rn

[molten flicker]

tanks are higher on varimathras adds than me since PK nerf

[civic palm]

Yeah it's like 2.3/4/5% or so.

I'd love for this to be right, but I am sure that it is not.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

Boots shoulders bracers have haste

[civic palm]

Yeah, can't get too low.

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t even know what leggo combo that is

You can’t get 1% lol

[civic palm]

Yeah exactly.

Armor doesn't show correct stats.

[shrewd oriole]

Like I said, 2.4 is the lowest

[molten flicker]

man I remember just after reaching elisande I reached 0% with optimal gear

[civic palm]

this is too low as well

I have ~180%

[molten flicker]

it was so beautiful hitting that magic number where haste wasn't even on my stats pane anymore

[shrewd oriole]

What

What leggo combo is tha tlmao

[civic palm]

No idea, haha.

[shrewd oriole]

I can’t think of a good leggo combo without haste

[civic palm]

0 leggos, all crit/mas gear

[molten flicker]

they changed the stats of boots I think

[civic palm]

Yeah there were some changes, you are right about that.

[strange python]

562,189.0 best parse .. exsang boots with cinidaria, no bracers 96 ;D

[shrewd oriole]

Ah fair I don’t remember that

[molten flicker]

I was so hyped when I realized

[civic palm]

Yeah they put haste on a bunch of shit because fuck you.

[molten flicker]

but nobody in my guild cared at all

that I finally reached the perfect 0%

😄

[civic palm]

haha

[strange python]

propably forgotten .. ursoc ;p

[molten flicker]

these are my unbuffed stats atm

(in stealth)

[slim siren]

your crit is buffed by shoulders

oh ok

[civic palm]

I have like, 6% more vers than you or so.

[shrewd oriole]

That haste is puke

[civic palm]

I need more crit.

Replace the vers > _>

[molten flicker]

I have no sockets -..-

[civic palm]

I wanna go Malch/BB but have not been lucky

[molten flicker]

I have a pk relic still

pk/malch & gw/malch & ma/bb

very bad unfortunately

[shrewd oriole]

😦

And yet you have a 980 eoc

N I c e g a m e

[molten flicker]

well relics are 965/970/980

so they were upgrades over my better looking relics

and let me tell you

[shrewd oriole]

Know the feel, for a malch dark sorrows bb 980 relic

[molten flicker]

I fought for that trinket

[shrewd oriole]

Got*

“Fought”

Bet it was in your cache

[molten flicker]

nah

got it out of a 22 run

[shrewd oriole]

Kappa

That dropped?

Damn

Who got it?

[molten flicker]

and I've been farming that thing

since the dawn of time

I got it

I insta left group as well

xd

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha was it a pug?

[molten flicker]

yep

was very bad

[shrewd oriole]

Nice

Classic

[molten flicker]

I was actually surprised we finished it at all

lol

I feel so bad

got cutting edge 2 weeks ago

and I'm still 9/11

xd

[shrewd oriole]

Lul