assassination

[shrewd oriole]

LOL

[viscid helm]

Lmao

[shrewd oriole]

rejects

[viscid helm]

Wow

[zealous dew]

renegades

[shrewd oriole]

recked

[jovial kite]

retracted

[shrewd oriole]

removed

rookie

[zealous dew]

rotten

[shrewd oriole]

rump

[gaunt moat]

I wouldn't mind if he was mod, if he actually wants to do it
but he'd have be nicer to people, can he do that? 😛

[zealous dew]

roar, savage

[quick talon]

riggen

[jovial kite]

yeah

its an eternal question

can he hold back the memes

and do good for the people

[shrewd oriole]

flowi is always nice to me

[zealous dew]

he can, he's a good guy

[hazy flame]

Hey flowi is it true weak is a better rogue than u?

[jovial kite]

LOL

[shrewd oriole]

better at dying yes

[viscid helm]

No

[zealous dew]

I still remember flowi rank 1 healing in ToS

every fight

[shrewd oriole]

mods should be able to challenge other mods

for a duel

[viscid helm]

Its still there

[shrewd oriole]

and if they win they get modded and the loser loses modship

[viscid helm]

I have r1 on all tomb fights

Should make them public

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[zealous dew]

yeah like a M+ comp sub vs sin

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/igubv4

[zealous dew]

if sub loses has to play sin

[shrewd oriole]

We should start using old fashionable insults instead of the R word

like dunderhead

[quick talon]

like

Ape ?

[shrewd oriole]

Nigmenog

[quick talon]

I think the n-word is an old fashionable insult

[shrewd oriole]

apparently Nigmenog is silly

[jovial kite]

you uncultured savage

lowlife scum

[shrewd oriole]

you utter Rascal

[jovial kite]

you impotent bastard

[quick talon]

How do you know?

[shrewd oriole]

you're nothing but a unlicked Cub

I googled 19th century insults

Classical ignoramus

[shrewd night]

I like Cod as an insult tbh

[spare cloud]

Why would you lock a cub

[shrewd oriole]

that's a good one

[jovial kite]

you filthy fopdoodle

[shrewd oriole]

Miserable little snob

[jovial kite]

you gnashgab

[shrewd oriole]

Handshake like a wilted petunia

ahahaha

[spare cloud]

The classical britian would say

[quick talon]

hello mods?

[spare cloud]

You damn wanker

[quick talon]

AMR is watching

[shrewd oriole]

ping them iwin

[jovial kite]

you mumbelcrust

[shrewd oriole]

ping them

[main blaze]

lol

[jovial kite]

scobberlotchers!

[spare cloud]

Pls no

[jovial kite]

Toffifay

[quick talon]

I cant

only nelbur can

[spare cloud]

Im only yellow because its the closest to don joses

[shrewd oriole]

only enlbur possesses the knowledge

the sheer power

to ping the mods

[spare cloud]

Slagg did it today

Hes insane

[jovial kite]

succesfully, mind you

[shrewd oriole]

yeah but he plays exsang

so you know he's not playing with a full deck

[spare cloud]

I tried to go bleed

[shrewd oriole]

namsayi

[spare cloud]

Bot was down

Worked on combat for some reason

[quick talon]

If flowi gets mod, will he bring back jazu ?

[shrewd oriole]

and mich

[jovial kite]

mich

[spare cloud]

Mich?

[jovial kite]

i hear

[quick talon]

Milch

[spare cloud]

As in me in german?

[keen inlet]

@jovial kite I am on this platform, on average, 10+ hours a day

So if you want to talk shit about mods not modding

I take it personally.

[jovial kite]

not doubting your moderation

just happened to be a modfree 5 hours earlier

[spare cloud]

Can you change your color to yellow don

[shrewd oriole]

mods are people

they sleep

[keen inlet]

It's rare that one of us isn't actively around

[shrewd oriole]

quit feeding the trolls who post hentai, screenshot it and pm it to them

[keen inlet]

but it happens ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial kite]

so make flowi a mod :3

no more dark hours

ever

hes the eu mod we need

[quick talon]

I kinda like the dark hours

[shrewd oriole]

^

the hours without giggle are the only times we can meme

[spare cloud]

They are fun until it gets weird

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[jovial kite]

smelling girls when they sleep etc

quality discussion

[shrewd oriole]

they're fun until people start spamming a tauren fucking an orc

[jovial kite]

[shrewd oriole]

or kiddy porn

[quick talon]

I mean you guys been freaking about some drawing

[shrewd oriole]

👍

[quick talon]

get your act together

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[jovial kite]

13 hour phonecalls to random girls

[shrewd oriole]

it was the creepy shit that creeped me out

[jovial kite]

listening them to sleep

[shrewd oriole]

not the porn per se

[jovial kite]

getting excited they fell asleep and are moaning

[spare cloud]

Probably underaged girl

[jovial kite]

saying your fucked in the head

and you know it

[spare cloud]

And saying hes pedo etc

Totally normal

[jovial kite]

quality shit

[shrewd oriole]

lul

INSTA delete

[quick talon]

mods might be lurking

[shrewd oriole]

he got banned yeah

[quick talon]

?

[crystal fox]

notter is playing darkest dungeon,i guess he went into the outlul channel 🤣

[spare cloud]

Dont rant my specc

Still good

[crystal fox]

on paper*

[spare cloud]

Jk

[shrewd oriole]

outlaw in 2018

now that is a funny joke

[spare cloud]

Would say LUL but no nitro

[quick talon]

Tom

nice curly hair

i bet all the bitches wanna touch em

[shrewd oriole]

Thanks

[crystal fox]

@keen inlet i am writing a short story in school, and its called "the sinking ship" and it features piratecaptain Don Jose and his faithful second mate notter with their lovely doggie giggleblush

[shrewd oriole]

it's my african roots

[spare cloud]

What grade are you in

[quick talon]

atleast youre not starving

so you got the good roots

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

[spare cloud]

Nice dude

[crystal fox]

i'm 29 and going to a public adult school and i have to write a short story,so why not make it a fun one

[quick talon]

no

[shrewd oriole]

[spare cloud]

Yeah last time shit went down

[jovial kite]

[quick talon]

we're deleting it on our own

so giggle cant do it

[shrewd oriole]

I know

LUL

[quick talon]

oh

[shrewd oriole]

/mute iwin

[quick talon]

almost

@supple hearth where u at brother

[spare cloud]

Backslash use

Nice

[quick talon]

can u stop wasting your time in pvp and transmog

and spend some time with your fellow rogues?

[shrewd oriole]

he pinged the mods, stash the memes

[spare cloud]

One mod

Still dead

[unreal coyote]

whats going on here

[spare cloud]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/igunm7

[keen inlet]

@crystal fox I hope you'll share that when it's done because that's amazing

tbh tho anybody familiar with #outlaw knows that Loktark is captain, I'm helmsman* (and also rear admiral, inexplicably?), Notter is first mate

[arctic venture]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[keen inlet]

@jovial kite We have EU mods. Sometimes they have lives too. That's why we have so many mods, and there are multiple despots as well.

It's easy to throw shade when you're not actively involved in improving/working on something. See also: olympic commentators

[jovial kite]

i wasnt throwing shade per se

just pointing out that there was a dead zone

[keen inlet]

Anybody else watch the ice dancing coverage? Good lord, that female commentator was 2 hours of brutal shade

[crystal fox]

sounds like 2 hours more than i would have watched that

[quick ice]

Clearly need an oceanic tz mod. Please don't pick me

[keen inlet]

like it's one thing to educate viewers as to why points are deducted but she was just 100% "they suck, they suck, wow they really succ"

@crystal fox Wife was into competitive figure skating when she was younger

rip me

[crystal fox]

rip

[calm grail]

You need East Coast US mods.

Mod me plz.

[shrewd oriole]

not throwing shade

[shrewd night]

I had the norwegian figure skater champion working at my old job before

As an IT tech

[shrewd oriole]

literally saying moderation in this chat sucks several times

pick one

[shrewd night]

Wew

[jovial kite]

you're gonna have to provide a quote

[calm grail]

I'm a Chadmerican can I have EU wife?

All the women here are big

[shrewd night]

You can have RU wife, but you wont be able to work for the government ever again

[winged flame]

Does Gnawed Thumb Ring buff anything for assassination?

[calm grail]

I do technically work for the US government in a stretched way...

Shit.

[zealous dew]

mmm this channel is dead again

need some drama

[glad ferry]

Phat women are Gross AF women

[shrewd night]

Woah there

[glad ferry]

There fixed it

[gaunt moat]

In regards to applications
it's linked in announcements channel (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q5_on2VAOikM_G6mjfBdeJky4LFaz0Fz8a_yrZw0x3A/viewform?edit_requested=true)
I don't know if we're looking for more mods at the moment though

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/iguxjg http://prntscr.com/iguxql http://prntscr.com/iguxv1 http://prntscr.com/iguxyk http://prntscr.com/iguy8l

[gaunt moat]

(or who is monitoring that document for that matter)

[calm grail]

Not looking for mods okay

[shrewd oriole]

here's a few

too lazy to keep going

[calm grail]

Did you see the racist tirade Tom went on yesterday

[shrewd night]

[jovial kite]

ok

thats not literally saying moderation sucks

it states there is none

[keen inlet]

@calm grail moderation isn't always "visible"

[gaunt moat]

no moderation 🤔

[jovial kite]

yes notter regarding the literal shitstorm a couple hours back

there was no mods around

[gaunt moat]

wasn't the people who did those things got banned?

[jovial kite]

yes but tom is ironically throwing shade

[shrewd oriole]

Claiming things like "all the other mods are hiding from gunfire"

[keen inlet]

Tom's been modded recently. Others have too.

As a rule RH is fairly "evenly" moderated. We try to walk a line between over and under

[jovial kite]

you think i was serious tom

[shrewd oriole]

nah but you said it lol

[jovial kite]

yes

dunno why you brought it up

when its clearly a meme

[keen inlet]

a few hours ago was just a lapse. It happens, it's not the end of the world, and it's been corrected

[jovial kite]

regarding the no mods around situation

get off mine

[calm grail]

Once he's off it can I get on?

[keen inlet]

Nothing is "clearly a meme," on discord, lol. Half the time i think ppl are joking and then they keep going and suddenly I'm like wow, apparently they're an extremist, great

[shrewd oriole]

🤔 excusing rude behaviour as a meme is a very tom thing to do

[gaunt moat]

it's kinda funny how we're either nazi mods or we're not doing anything at all ever XD

[shrewd oriole]

there's no winning

[jovial kite]

i mean

you werent

not blaming

but there was noone around

until stjern was pinged

[shrewd night]

Quit your dayjobs, work around the clock in shifts to make sure everything is covered always.

Gogo.

[shrewd oriole]

^

casual mods

[solid field]

YES

[jovial kite]

thats not what im implying either

[unreal coyote]

moderation has been much better tbh

but snowflakes gonna be snowflakes no matter what

[solid field]

just like there is some that still play outlaw

gonna happen

[shrewd oriole]

this chat was unmoderated for 3 hours during late night na and early time eu for one day? unbelieveble

shit mods

: (

[jovial kite]

why you call them shit mods

[unreal coyote]

the idea that someone would stay somewhere that offends them and seek to change it for everyone who clearly are finewith it else rather than just remove themselves is kind of sickening tbh

[quick talon]

https://gyazo.com/42625c879097362b8064881c6733dcce

sign me up

[shrewd oriole]

tbh I expected this from a white bunny

[gaunt moat]

@jovial kite so in like... 6 months, there's been a few hours no one was modding activly
and then you pinged stjern and it got solved

so not sure why is this a big deal :S

[jovial kite]

its not really

[calm grail]

It's not.

[shrewd oriole]

that's why hazelnut colored bunnies are so superior

[jovial kite]

tom just decided its a good idea to start fucking with me

[quick talon]

anal? 🤔

[jovial kite]

so the discussion dragged on

[calm grail]

Tom's like a less annoying Nelbur.

[shrewd oriole]

it's a meme

wow dont compare me to nelbur

I would never rat out a fellow rogue

[shrewd night]

Lets see who can meme the hardest on eachother in regards to the mod nondicsussion

[quick talon]

hey nelburs a good guy

[calm grail]

Borderline edgy memelord but tolerable.

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[shrewd night]

In one corner, tom, in the other Slaggjack

FIGHT

[shrewd oriole]

mate

[spare cloud]

Tom is Nelbur?

[shrewd oriole]

as long as you introduce more than one target he's done for

bleed build aoe btw lul

[jovial kite]

tom parses

btw

[calm grail]

Slagg you killed Argus right?

[shrewd night]

nitro btw

[jovial kite]

yeah like 5 weeks ago

[spare cloud]

Go away

I dont like nitro users

[calm grail]

Tom have you killed Argus?

[shrewd oriole]

nope

[jovial kite]

case closed

wrap it up

[calm grail]

Done.

[jovial kite]

superiority is dictated by progress

[shrewd oriole]

obviously

[vapid moth]

Wtf is going own here

[shrewd night]

None of you are top3, so both of yall are irrelevant

Come on bruh

[shrewd oriole]

true

[jovial kite]

we dont even enjoy the game

[strange python]

Yo, where can i complain about the mod situation in this discord, thx

[shrewd oriole]

do it right here

[calm grail]

Outlaw channel.

[strange python]

omw

[spare cloud]

Just ping them all and say it

[shrewd oriole]

no no

outlaw channel does not exist

at least I like to pretend it doesnt

just like I do with the spec

[strange python]

Who's outlaw btw?

[calm grail]

Exactly. Let's try to breathe some life back into it.

[spare cloud]

Combat

[urban storm]

probably ppl in the outlaw channel

[gaunt moat]

Anyways, going to the bank and the gym, think you'll survive 2 hours without me? 🤡

[spare cloud]

No

[shrewd oriole]

we'll ping u if we need to

[gaunt moat]

feel free, i won't be able to see though

[vapid moth]

Who are you Notter?

[spare cloud]

Dnd ftw

[calm grail]

If you can't do squats and moderate at the same time, you're not really trying.

[shrewd oriole]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-46D7OuTwCZE/UKZ5CtkJq0I/AAAAAAAAEQg/3o9bp0ka_hs/s1600/Brown_Bunny_Wallpaper_1024x768_wallpaperhere.jpg

@gaunt moat

[hoary copper]

It's so fluffy

[strange python]

Notter? more like.....Modder

hmpfh

[gaunt moat]

......

[shrewd oriole]

I hope you dabbed after that one silje

[spare cloud]

Cant lift weights and mod chat with feet -> not fit for position as mod

[strange python]

ahahhahaa

[shrewd oriole]

Mate do you even lift

[calm grail]

You just balance the bar on your neck, keep your hands-free.

[shrewd oriole]

what's your one rep max mate

[strange python]

Just do 1 squat, check one comment

EZ PZ

[hoary copper]

I thought it was 1 squat, 1 meme for the ultimate reps

[spare cloud]

Do one squat for every toxic comment in assa

[gaunt moat]

it's hard when you use that 10kg neck-weight or whatever it's called

[shrewd oriole]

just be one of those people who take like 3 minute breaks in between their series

to check facebook

10 reps, 3 minutes of facebook

[calm grail]

If you lift heavy you are supposed to take a few minutes between sets.

[hoary copper]

You'd never stop squatting then Don

[strange python]

Or take a friend to the gym to chat like 15 min inbetween reps, you know, resting

[shrewd oriole]

^

yeah, but you know who I'm refering to

[calm grail]

Yeah.

[shrewd oriole]

they take fucking 30 minutes to do 3 sets

[calm grail]

I never used my phone between sets unless I was tracking reps.

[spare cloud]

Good thing i dont have friends so i can fully concentrate on training

[shrewd oriole]

I bought an ipod just for the gym

[winged flame]

Guys, does Gnawed Thumb Ring affect any damage done by assassination? Even searching through this channel gives conflicting information.

[calm grail]

Yes.

[shrewd oriole]

so I dont have the temptation of checking my phone

[spare cloud]

Yes it does

[hoary copper]

Good thing I'm fat and my only exercise is going to get myself a beer

[strange python]

Always leave phone in the locker

[winged flame]

Any specific ability it should be used with to max usage?

[spare cloud]

Affect nature dmg because nature is magic

[shrewd oriole]

the golden rule silje, for sure

[calm grail]

I got one of those Bluetooth LG headsets, after I wrecked my earbuds out the first time

Ripped*

[strange python]

@winged flame poisons do nature damage for example ^^

[shrewd oriole]

I wear airpods

[calm grail]

Ewww

[shrewd oriole]

pretty comfortable

[spare cloud]

I just use my boxes

[shrewd oriole]

I like em ahaha

[calm grail]

I assume you got into the Apple ecosystem early?

[spare cloud]

And blast death metal

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah man

[strange python]

OMFG THIS CHAT ISN'T MODDED

[shrewd oriole]

my second phone was an iphone

[strange python]

who di i ping?

[calm grail]

If I had been using Apple products forever, I would still probably use them, but since I got into Android early there was no reason.

[shrewd oriole]

I'm too far in now

[calm grail]

My wife is in the same situation as you though.

[strange python]

Don't see myself using anything but apple phone

[shrewd oriole]

It's hard to switch

[strange python]

hate all other products tho

[hoary copper]

I switched iPhone to Android (Samsung S7) and I hate the phone. I kind of want to go back

[shrewd oriole]

macs are cool for music production

[calm grail]

Honestly, the hardware is more or less the same at this point, you just go for the software you like more

[strange python]

5SE to be more preciese, perfect phone imo

[calm grail]

Or where you have more money invested

[shrewd oriole]

I use it a ton when I'm working on my sound cloud

[spare cloud]

Swapped from iphone to samsung to google pixel

[gaunt moat]

that's why you hire a personal trainer, it's best of both worlds. someone to talk to that keeps you focused on what you do

[unreal coyote]

i kicked samsung to the curb

pixel ftfw

[calm grail]

It's not like it was 7 or 8 years ago where there was definitive Hardware differences.

[shrewd oriole]

true

[spare cloud]

Pixel is awesome

[shrewd oriole]

but I mean

apple has animemjois

[unreal coyote]

touchwiz can suck a dick

[shrewd oriole]

what does samsung have

nothing.

[unreal coyote]

samsung bloat

[hoary copper]

hmm I havent even looked at Pixel

[strange python]

Samsung got a private army

[spare cloud]

Its like android without the annoying shit

[strange python]

And Apple has more money than my country

so yeay

[unreal coyote]

pixel is S tier android

period

[maiden turtle]

Samsung sucks
Apple sucks

[shrewd oriole]

apple has more money than my country too

[spare cloud]

Samsung*

[calm grail]

What country?

[strange python]

Romania

[keen inlet]

I talked my wife into Pixel 2

[strange python]

xDDDD

[keen inlet]

she loves me more now

😏

[unreal coyote]

oneplus and pixel are s tier android

[shrewd oriole]

Smooth.

[spare cloud]

See

[keen inlet]

my s7's okay.

[shrewd oriole]

I bought my girlfriend an iphone

we've broken up.

[keen inlet]

Looking forward to pixel 2 tho

[strange python]

It's not about how much she loves you but how deep @keen inlet

[unreal coyote]

yeah i got my wife off fruit shit too

[shrewd oriole]

😉

[calm grail]

We're all on a discord for a Merican game and I'm Merican

[unreal coyote]

to a pixel

[calm grail]

Mod me

[unreal coyote]

we love our pixels

[keen inlet]

@strange python she's pregnant (and I'm the father) so you tell me Silje

😉

[quick talon]

Don

[hoary copper]

you're sure you're the father?

[calm grail]

First kid?

[keen inlet]

win

[quick talon]

you seem kinda stressed lately

[keen inlet]

yeah

rip me nira

[strange python]

I will stand by my statement storms and earthquakes

[calm grail]

The first few months are going to suck, but it's a ton of fun after that.

[spare cloud]

Rip don in a few months

[keen inlet]

i know you're memeing win but legitimately past 4 weeks have been p.stressful

[calm grail]

Like right now my son is 6 and a half, and he's getting into computer games and sports, it's just fun having something to bond over.

[quick talon]

no im serious wtf 😦

[unreal coyote]

you know whats fun

[calm grail]

And he genuinely gets it

[hoary copper]

How far does she have to go?

[keen inlet]

crazy busy at work, business trips, etc

and you nice, kind people can't seem to be*have

[unreal coyote]

getting a good nights sleep

thats whats fun

[calm grail]

My son is obsessed with me buying more hardware parts to build a new computer, he has watched it too much Linus Tech tips.

[keen inlet]

nice

nira-ling

[spare cloud]

Lol

[unreal coyote]

you should tell him to watch jayztwocents instead

linus is a cuck

[shrewd oriole]

nah

[keen inlet]

kind commentary as always Util

[shrewd oriole]

tell him to watch

jack paul

that's the quality content

[strange python]

aye lol, he doesn't care anymore, too much money

all about the moolah

[spare cloud]

Jake paul is very good

[shrewd oriole]

get him using words like "lit" and "fam"

[calm grail]

If my kid starts watching either of the Paul Brothers, I'm taken away his fucking laptop.

[spare cloud]

About the same level as rebelphile

[quick talon]

@calm grail Did you teach him how to dab properly?

otherwise easy bully target in school

[shrewd oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsMPL3dBfU

[strange python]

lmaooo

[unreal coyote]

what can i say Don i just call it how i see it

[calm grail]

He already likes watching unboxing videos.

[shrewd oriole]

this is what your kids will have to deal with

GL

[quick talon]

unboxing the milfs

or

[calm grail]

If he becomes a memer or a shitposter by the time he is 10, he's moving out.

[shrewd oriole]

what

[quick talon]

how?

Said persons are the greatest human beings

[shrewd oriole]

moving out to harvard right?

[unreal coyote]

there are rare occasions where an unboxing video is actually helpful

[spare cloud]

Studying gender studies

[unreal coyote]

99% of the time i dunno why people watch

[calm grail]

You know only like a very small percentage of Americans can afford schools like that XD

[shrewd oriole]

tell me about it

[calm grail]

I think most of the people that go to our Ivy League schools are foreigners

[shrewd oriole]

I study in the UK, prices fuck me in the ass as well

[calm grail]

That take the education home

[shrewd oriole]

same in the UK tbh

[spare cloud]

Germany here

[quick talon]

I dont know

Have you guys watched how high?

[spare cloud]

200 euros per semester

[quick talon]

Even those guys made it to harvard

[unreal coyote]

god

[quick talon]

i mean please

[shrewd oriole]

most of my class mates are either upper class british people or asian

[unreal coyote]

please

no

[strange python]

In romania it's reasy to go to the uni for free

literally pay nothing

[spare cloud]

Most of my mates are asian as well

[calm grail]

Waow

[shrewd oriole]

but then again my uni costs like 25grand a year so

[spare cloud]

But that must be because i study math

[calm grail]

You know insanely expensive here?

Healthcare and College.

😂

[strange python]

Only thing is, this goes for a few of the,m

[calm grail]

What is*

[quick talon]

love

https://gyazo.com/afcc5a4d9890a0cda83594764fcc25f2

damn right

[turbid ruin]

switched to Sin on Kingorath anyone have any tips for that fight?

[quick talon]

I suggest playing with shoulders/boots

[calm grail]

And poisons

[keen inlet]

yeah idk about unboxing videos. The only time i've ever watched one is when I opened something and it seemed to be missing parts and/or there wasn't a parts list

well

[quick talon]

saving CDs for the first add, after that all vanishs will be ready for the future adds

[spare cloud]

Dont play outlaw anymore

[shrewd night]

Nothing thats new. Save cds for adds, if you run boots you can pop on add, boss, add, boss. Vanish->envenom onto add

[quick talon]

also vendetta is always ready for adds + inbetween

[keen inlet]

that and sometimes if companies aren't clear about what they "include"

I'll scope one out

but for some people unboxing vids are like consumerism-porn

[quick talon]

porn? 🤔

[keen inlet]

"I can't buy this so I'm gonna watch this dude buy it and open it"

[turbid ruin]

so dont vanish rupture the dadd?

add*

[shrewd night]

No

[turbid ruin]

ok

[shrewd night]

We did the math, envenom is better

[calm grail]

Speaking of the newborn baby thing, the whole idea that you won't get sleep is just a myth, it depends 100% on the baby.

[quick talon]

Go nightstalker for kin garoth brother

[calm grail]

Some kids will sleep through the whole night right away with few disturbances

[quick talon]

got those 15m env crits going

[turbid ruin]

yeah i am using nighstalker

[quick talon]

on the add

[keen inlet]

I felt it kick for the first time last night

[calm grail]

Just don't count on it though,

[turbid ruin]

shoulders/bracers

[keen inlet]

been kicking for weeks but i always missed it

was pretty neat

[shrewd night]

Jesus

[calm grail]

It's like an alien.

[shrewd night]

For a moment I thought you were pregnant jose

[quick talon]

You felt it kick? I thought your wife is preggo

[shrewd oriole]

lul

[turbid ruin]

opener is still the same as in the guide?

minus saving vanish for add

[shrewd night]

@turbid ruin If you dont use boots you wont be able to consistently use cds on boss, be careful of that

[quick talon]

I dont even vendetta on pull so its ready for the adds

[unreal coyote]

kin?

[quick talon]

ya

[unreal coyote]

yeah dont vend he boss

[turbid ruin]

yeah i wasn't using vendetta either

[hoary copper]

Maybe I'll find a group to finish kin and beyond today

[quick talon]

you can vendetta inbetween adds if using boots tho

just not before the first add

[turbid ruin]

Ill try boots next week

I was going by logs and most ppl were using shoulders/bracers

[shrewd oriole]

Shoulder bracers are usually bis for logs

cuz of the high roll potential

but you're trying to kill the boss, not parse

[turbid ruin]

true true

[shrewd night]

I dont know dude, the value of bracers is diminished because the time you spend in execute depends on guild dps

[quick talon]

I dont even see the bracer value on kin tbh

but that probably depends on the kill timing

[shrewd night]

for me it was worth, but for most Id believe its not

[shrewd oriole]

logs

[unreal coyote]

bracers are sexytime

[turbid ruin]

alright thanks for the help

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/igvgs1

that's the value of bracers

l o g s

[turbid ruin]

hopefully kill that annoying boss next weeek 😄

[quick talon]

Sure, yet I dont get it

[shrewd night]

No PB at all btw

amrite

[quick talon]

When we kill kin

I only get bracer value for the last 15%

[shrewd oriole]

and the adds

[quick talon]

because add phase is usually around 30%

[shrewd oriole]

pb on an add sub 30%

👍

[unreal coyote]

^

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/igvh66

[shrewd night]

Although Im using bracer/boots because fuck shoulders

So I dont run into that question at all

[shrewd oriole]

yeah but then

you cant

LOG

[shrewd night]

Im fine with purps

[shrewd oriole]

fair enough

[patent topaz]

I like to masturbate to my pb damage on wipe logs because people cant run out with sleep canisters

[shrewd oriole]

if I dont play for logs on farm I die of boredom

[shrewd night]

Its been two weeks, and only six people have overtaken me on my PK log

So Im all gud

[shrewd oriole]

what log did you get?

[spare cloud]

There is one guy witz bracers boots

[shrewd oriole]

I had r1 on that for a long time as sub

[shrewd night]

Rank26, only 15% PB btw

[shrewd oriole]

M or hc tho

[shrewd night]

M

[spare cloud]

Beast

[shrewd oriole]

it's 37 now

: (

[spare cloud]

Lol

[shrewd night]

[crystal fox]

just procc more pb then 🤷

[frozen pecan]

post log now

[shrewd night]

More than 15%? Gotta pray 7 times a day for that, I aint doing that shit

Not my cat 😦

[spare cloud]

Doesnt have to be yours can also be the one from your neighbour

[shrewd night]

Oh, then its fine

[spare cloud]

Dont ban me pls

[keen inlet]

"sac your cat"

[spare cloud]

This is my life

[keen inlet]

...

🥄

get that yiffy crap outta here Tofftoff

[spare cloud]

Well its about pb after all..

[shrewd night]

Its Toffifay in these parts of town, Don

[crystal fox]

we only pray to our don and saviour jose for pb proccs

[spare cloud]

I could also try

Giggletoph

[unreal coyote]

sacrificing cats talk?

im offended

[spare cloud]

Its for pb dude

[unreal coyote]

who is paying for my pony therapy?

[keen inlet]

1 👍 = 1 🙏 for

[spare cloud]

5 pb in opener

Well in vanish vendetta

Thats enough for a few %

[crystal fox]

i love your pic collection don

[unreal coyote]

doesnt matter what cooldowns we hold

battle cry is going to be superior

feelsbad

[spare cloud]

Warrior sucks

[unreal coyote]

lol..

ok

[spare cloud]

I mained one before i was forced on rogue

[keen inlet]

I mean

[spare cloud]

Can confirm

[keen inlet]

we can hold out hope that

[unreal coyote]

warriors are objectively better

in almost every way

so

[keen inlet]

as lock gets nerfed into the ground
"no king rules forever"
warrior will be too

but we'll see

[spare cloud]

Not at staying alive

[unreal coyote]

do you not remember

when they nerfed cof

and it was repealed

the

same

day

[keen inlet]

to be completely honest, warriors are so much better at crying than we are

[unreal coyote]

yeah

[spare cloud]

Yeah they are

[keen inlet]

That whenever there's a nerf it gets lessened/reverted

[spare cloud]

When arms got nerfed

[crystal fox]

warriors have the masses

[spare cloud]

The shit that went down

[zealous dew]

boy 381 messages

[spare cloud]

Was insane

[keen inlet]

I'm not even being biased, that's historically true ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zealous dew]

i can't keep up

[stone sandal]

What is warrior?

[zealous dew]

sum stuff up pls

[crystal fox]

Rawrior xD

[unreal coyote]

they wear plat have better mobility a raid cd

execute

[keen inlet]

summation: warriors cry

[wraith saddle]

Woyer 4Head

[spare cloud]

Warrior = worse complainers than rogues

[shrewd night]

Have better mobility

wat

[keen inlet]

the more they cry the more dps they do

[unreal coyote]

umm

[keen inlet]

simple maths

[spare cloud]

Even that is true

[unreal coyote]

leap and 2x charge

duh

[spare cloud]

Yeah but you cant charge to raid members

[unreal coyote]

play right and you wont need to

[shrewd oriole]

pretending rogue isnt batshit broken

L U L

[unreal coyote]

you can leap to wheerevr the fuck you want

[keen inlet]

define "batshit broken"

[shrewd oriole]

feint cheat death cloak of shadows along side mobility

[spare cloud]

Warrior is good but you kinda only want one or two

[shrewd oriole]

our defensives are batshit broken

[keen inlet]

Without them we'd be shaman

[spare cloud]

As for rogues...

[stone sandal]

Imagine a pack full of muscles, big swords or axes, even two of them
Swinging their shit at you
suddenly takes a seat and starts to cry

[quick talon]

Or monks

[unreal coyote]

if you think rogue

is "broken"

you need your head checked methinks

[shrewd oriole]

if you dont think feint / cheat / cloak are broken

[spare cloud]

Its not only about dps

[shrewd oriole]

then you dont understand the game

at all

[keen inlet]

like...yeah, rogue survivability is high, but it's also active (not passive) so you have to be smart with it, or hurt your own dps (feint), and we're balanced around it anyway

[shrewd oriole]

cheat death is the best passive defensive in the game

[keen inlet]

They basically revealed that through EN/NH/TOS

We aren't the only ones with cheat death tho

[shrewd oriole]

how is our surv any more active than anyone else's

[unreal coyote]

cheat death still wont make a bad player live

its good yes

[shrewd oriole]

rogues and bdks?

[spare cloud]

But other classes need support with their cheat death

We dont

[keen inlet]

feint, cos, vial, etc etc etc

[spare cloud]

Dks need to be heales

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[spare cloud]

Fire mages also

[keen inlet]

all active. We have cheat death, sure

[shrewd oriole]

our defensives bring up problems literally every tier

[keen inlet]

but in theory you shouldn't need cheat death

[spare cloud]

We just procc it and we gucci

[unreal coyote]

problems?

lol

[shrewd oriole]

every tier we have some way of cheesing with rogue defensives

that ends up getting fixed

[keen inlet]

And if we had better options in that tier, people wouldn't always take cheat death

[unreal coyote]

that is an encounter design issue

always has been

[spare cloud]

Yeah stronger feint

[unreal coyote]

always will be

[crystal fox]

its not like every time they make a new boss they forget rogues defensives, ofcourse they have them in mind

[shrewd oriole]

then, in the context of how fights are designed, rogue defensives are broken

lmao

[keen inlet]

@crystal fox nah sometimes they legit forget them

[shrewd oriole]

^

[keen inlet]

same for druids, same for other classes

[quick talon]

Hence the avatar feint bug

[keen inlet]

see also: cata era druid stacking

[crystal fox]

small indy company 🤷

[spare cloud]

Was it a bug?

I mean it was aoe

[quick talon]

Pretty sure it was

[shrewd oriole]

but yeah, not even going further back than wod

[spare cloud]

And it was reduced

[quick talon]

why would feint reduce 95% of the dmg

[shrewd oriole]

Blackhand, rogue was the only good melee

argus, rogue was amazing

[quick talon]

you could afk in unbound chaos

until the fixed it

[shrewd oriole]

gul'dan, avatar, KJ, argus

[spare cloud]

Blackhand abused rogue mechanics

Kiting tank and shit

[shrewd oriole]

burst of speed

haHAA

every other melee on BH was unplayable

[spare cloud]

I think it took like 30 guilds before a warrior saw it dead

Not tank warrior

[shrewd oriole]

let alone a melee besides warrior

[spare cloud]

Yeah was just saying for context sake

[unreal coyote]

theres gimmicky loopholes for us for short periods

[shrewd oriole]

dunno I see your point @keen inlet about our defensives being somewhat active but I still think that rogue class stacking is abused so often that the only explanation is poor fight design and broken defensives

[unreal coyote]

after theyre fixed though

[shrewd oriole]

BH wasnt fixed

neither was archi, gul'dan, arguably KJ

rogue was still very good for soaking sargeras on avatar

[spare cloud]

Huh kj

[keen inlet]

i don't recall any time we've been stacked more than like, maybe 3, in recent history

[shrewd oriole]

what

[spare cloud]

Kj

Avatar

[keen inlet]

sigh

aside from ToS

[shrewd oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8it5rki5I10

[keen inlet]

which was bad

[lone junco]

avatar method was like 6 rogues right?

[jovial kite]

kj avatar guldan

[keen inlet]

it's well noted that ToS was poorly designed

[spare cloud]

Guldan you just needed 2

[keen inlet]

overall

[jovial kite]

yep.. you needed 2

[unreal coyote]

these are all design issues

[shrewd oriole]

"just needed 2"

needing a class

thankfully it was only 2

[keen inlet]

I mean BFA is gonna be more about needing classes

so

[unreal coyote]

your beef is with the design

[keen inlet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unreal coyote]

not our class

id trade utility for damage

[spare cloud]

I mean you could play it with other people soaking 🤔

[unreal coyote]

in a fucking heartbeat

[shrewd oriole]

I wouldnt

damage gets benched

[keen inlet]

when you've got a raid of 20

[shrewd oriole]

utility does not

[keen inlet]

I'd say even 3 of a class

is not necessarily "stacking"

[shrewd oriole]

look at bm hunter versus MM

why did so many people play BM

[keen inlet]

because it's braindead?

😄

[shrewd oriole]

no

[unreal coyote]

damage gets benched?

[shrewd oriole]

because it was better for argus

[keen inlet]

that's why I played it

[unreal coyote]

execute does not get benched

lol

[shrewd oriole]

execute is more than damage

it's important damage

lo

tbh execute is a form of utility

[unreal coyote]

lol

[spare cloud]

But you only take 1 execute

[shrewd oriole]

???

on argus?

you can easily take like 8

[unreal coyote]

my point is

warriors have better single target

[spare cloud]

Method only took one.warrior

[shrewd oriole]

warlocks, rogues, warriors and hunters

[unreal coyote]

better cleave

[vestal wren]

you can take more now

[unreal coyote]

enough utility

[spare cloud]

And.it wasnt even for execute

[shrewd oriole]

method did the boss when chains were immunable tho toffe

[spare cloud]

But for the orb burst

[vestal wren]

you can heal through most things now

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[shrewd oriole]

so method's comp is nowhere near the best comp now

[cerulean depot]

You can, but it still makes fight harder

[viscid helm]

what makes it harder?

[shrewd oriole]

what, no it doesn

how does 2 warriors make the fight harder

they are just as good as rogues now

[cerulean depot]

Healing through damage instead of removing it completely

[shrewd oriole]

double shout, good mobility for chains, blight, etc

yeah but you can easily heal it now lol

[viscid helm]

i mean you can't cos shit in that fight anymore

[shrewd oriole]

^

[viscid helm]

rogue is no better than any other melee

[shrewd oriole]

exactly

[cerulean depot]

Can't soak balls in red shit as warrior 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

you cos a fear stack and soul blight every now and then

[viscid helm]

why would you soak balls in the first place?

[shrewd oriole]

^

[cerulean depot]

Cos tanks are bad

[unreal coyote]

yeah no rogue should do that

[shrewd oriole]

"rogue is better because my tanks are bad"

top 3 argument

[cerulean depot]

It is pretty good argument, I agree

[shrewd oriole]

it's really not

[viscid helm]

back in my days when the boss was HARD

just kidding

it was never hard

[shrewd oriole]

flowi puts the meme in memento

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJ_hqJewM0 @keen inlet 3 rogues, 0 other melees

[keen inlet]

again

[shrewd oriole]

3 is quite a lot

[keen inlet]

3 rogues in 10-man's a lot. 3 rogues in 20+ is nothing

[shrewd oriole]

what

[keen inlet]

No what.

[unreal coyote]

the only thing youre proving is how bad the encounter is designed

like

[viscid helm]

wild 10man appears

[unreal coyote]

thats really the end of it

[shrewd oriole]

poorly designed fights make rogue defensives broken

[keen inlet]

you guys are all fighting

over the wrong thing

[shrewd oriole]

big what jose

[unreal coyote]

one doesnt exist without the other

[viscid helm]

like avatar

[keen inlet]

the real issue here is

[shrewd oriole]

3 of the same class is quite a lot

lmao

[drifting cloud]

not really

[viscid helm]

people didnt even realise what you could do on avatar as a rogue

before us

[keen inlet]

a man started a fight and a plane made an emergency landing

fight started because passenger would not stop farting

[cerulean depot]

15% of the raid is significant

[lone junco]

TT
HHHH
MMM
RRRRRRRRRRR

[keen inlet]

nah

[cerulean depot]

Compared to 0

[shrewd oriole]

15% is quite significant

how is 15% not significant lol

[keen inlet]

nah

simple maths

[viscid helm]

what is this argument even about lol

[shrewd oriole]

it's extra significant when the every single other melee class composes 0% of the comp

[keen inlet]

i'm trying to point out

subtley

that

it's dumb

[spare cloud]

Outlaw > assa

[viscid helm]

i just got home

[lone junco]

Fake news

[keen inlet]

and subtlety is apparently lost

on rogue

[viscid helm]

im out of the loop

[keen inlet]

go figure

[shrewd oriole]

@viscid helm he's trynna say rogue defensives arent broken

[quick talon]

can we go back to memes

[jovial kite]

he tried to say that playing subtlety rogue is dumb

[unreal coyote]

they arent broken

[jovial kite]

okay

[unreal coyote]

without

[quick talon]

you guys are bad at discussing things

[unreal coyote]

design

flaws

lol

[shrewd oriole]

but design flaws are there so discussing a world without design flaws is pointless

they've been there time and time again

for over a decade

[keen inlet]

"You keep saying rogue defensives are broken. Aside from the vagueness of 'broken,' I don't think that statement means what you think it means.

also I play warrior"

[shrewd oriole]

when will we start considering them a constant

[keen inlet]

when they argue rogue defensives are 'broken'

[stark heart]

@keen inlet tl dr?

[cerulean depot]

Rogue defensives are not broken, they are just the best out of all melee.

[spare cloud]

Those screenshots are more disturbing than orc tauren porn

[keen inlet]

when you try to calculate exactly how 'broken' rogue defensives are

[unreal coyote]

if you NEEDED them to complete encounters

maybe

[quick talon]

finally back to memes

[unreal coyote]

but i am sure there are guilds that completed encounters without them

[keen inlet]

when you 'break' rogue defensives just right

[lone junco]

spammable feint is silly. I mean, there is a reason I play rogue.

[unreal coyote]

it costs energy

[drifting cloud]

maybe before the energy nerf

[unreal coyote]

its not free

[shrewd oriole]

@unreal coyote cuz if you overgear shit and try n brute force it utility's value is worse

[keen inlet]

when the "broken rogue defensives" you took this morning finally kick in

[stark heart]

where he said free

[keen inlet]

when you keep memeing until a silly argument is finally drowned out

[viscid helm]

feint is fine

[shrewd oriole]

when you're a wr 500 guild comp matters very little, you're just so vastly overgeared it doesnt mean jack

[unreal coyote]

inb4 "obviously not theyre nerfing it"

[stark heart]

feint is unique utility that we bring

[viscid helm]

back on avatar, that shit on the ground used to tick for 2M per hit

https://puu.sh/zr8WU/40fe561b10.jpg

this was with feint on

standing still

[keen inlet]

when they keep the argument going anyway

[unreal coyote]

yep

a bug existed

👏

[stark heart]

issue is other classes don't have the same good utility

that is it

well most of them okay

[shrewd night]

Shamans omegalul

[lone junco]

wasnt ret's small bubble like 20% 10sec 2min cd.

[shrewd oriole]

enh shaman OMEGALUL

[lone junco]

blurr is what 1min?

[shrewd oriole]

I mean shaman gets 40% for 8 seconds every 1.5 minutes

[lone junco]

thats horrible.

[shrewd oriole]

there's a reason you hardly see enh shaman in progress

[lone junco]

rogue Cloak cd, feint feint feint

[stark heart]

shamans are fragile

sadly

[shrewd oriole]

inb4 someone says ankh is a defensive

[unreal coyote]

thats just silly

[lone junco]

dont they get instant heals with maelstrom?

[keen inlet]

when "ankh" isn't a defensive but "cheat death" is

[spare cloud]

Shamans are broken

[stark heart]

instant heals

[shrewd oriole]

cheat death has a 6 minute cooldown

lmao

[cerulean depot]

What is @keen inlet point even is btw?

[stark heart]

instant heals is nothing

you need DR not heals

in raids

[unreal coyote]

i regret everything

[lone junco]

sure.

[keen inlet]

when you design your encounters around broken rogue defensives and then quietly change your main to rogue

[spare cloud]

Sure hope u do

[unreal coyote]

i actually dont

because at the end of the day

[shrewd oriole]

comparing cheat death to ankh

[unreal coyote]

we cant do anything but dmg

[lone junco]

I died a lot as enh, but now I play rogue and never die. Thanks Blizz 👍

[keen inlet]

When you get a whiff of those dank broken rogue defensives

[unreal coyote]

and still arent the best at it