I totally don't want to sound like an elitist because I'm not and I know that I ever could be top300
#assassination
dire spoke
exotic glen
if thats what you think raiding is, then just stop
dire spoke
I'm not that good lol
brisk forge
I am top 300 and i am a slow learner but i always do my best ๐ช
shrewd oriole
A lot of people in top 300 are still shit
gaunt moat
I'd say a lot in top 3 are as well...
viscid helm
LUL
gaunt moat
๐ฆ
devout hollow
brisk forge
HC guilds ๐ค๐ป
shrewd oriole
Heroic argus tough content btw
gaunt moat
i wasn't even talking about you flowi ๐ฆ
viscid helm
Don't lie
gaunt moat
i'm not...
shrewd oriole
#scowastheproblem
gaunt moat
@shrewd oriole didn't play with him
dire spoke
can't follow chat, am on guldaddy rn
shrewd oriole
So trust me people can be shit regardless of Wr
devout hollow
is he resto
exotic glen
our ele sham died to cone on the kill
shrewd oriole
Heโs resto yeah
devout hollow
๐
stark heart
@exotic glen you misspelled "tactical feed"
pine brook
if guys in the top 300 are bad then i must be the worst ๐ฆ
shrewd oriole
I donโt think t300 is good I feel like most people could be top 300
jovial kite
even top 100 is reachable without splits and 2 day raiding
warm geode
my opnion , if dat matter, do what u want, stop blaming and start to look for u, if u r in a bad guild and dont like the ppl, just move on, and stop making they mistake ur mistake, im in a guild where i consider myself better then 70% of the host, but i dont snapout when someone do retarded shit, or u keep cool and acept where u r, or make the diference to change
pine brook
@warm geode that was hard to read
exotic glen
my eyes are bleeding
pine brook
lol
warm geode
never studied english, so, it is what it is
pine brook
either did I
exotic glen
i can see that
pine brook
My school was in french
warm geode
but u learn from some educational source, prob, i just watch tv shows and play games
pine brook
its not your english thats bad, its just the slang that hurts the eyes
might as well write like this: bt u lrn frm some educational sourc,prb. i jst watch tv shows nd ply gmes
shrewd oriole
Wtf
dire spoke
If a balance druid has the healer panth and wears it, does he procc it?
or does he only proc it on resto
vapid moth
Why would you want the balance druids t wear it anyway. The standard is 4 heals
unkempt karma
quick question
Im currently sub, and seeing everyone... being assassin
Worth a switch? I'm not well geared in sub. Like 940...
How is assassination? Poison or bleeds spec?
unkempt karma
My gear is far from optimal, only got 2 x t21..
Shit trinkets and can only pull at best 1.4mil ...
With heavy mobility fights I do 1.1-1.4 depending on how the activity on the boss, adds are. Should I be doing more?
Raidbots, dont like 30 checks yesterday with gear puts me on 1.53 mil..
done like 30*
subtle salmon
hows assassin looking for the new expansion guys?
strange python
its alpha baby
cinder field
but i like the dispatch coming back
i mean, dispatch/anticpation was way better gameplay than current sin playstyle
simple badge
Is it worth switching from mantle/bracers to cloak/insignia for M+ Trash?
viscid helm
that makes no sense
cinder field
no
cinder field
insign doesnt work on fok
simple badge
so in short the best legys stay mantle/bracers?
cinder field
mantle/bracers or boots without any exec on boss like helya
simple badge
so no legy switching for trash
simple badge
ofc
viscid helm
u wanna play sub
strange python
what is the ilvl of ur t20?
jovial kite
960 hands 930 shoulders
strange python
its +10 in total
shrewd oriole
Everything else can still tf just like rn as far as we know
viscid helm
its not
shrewd oriole
Itโs not
viscid helm
normal items still TF
shrewd oriole
^
viscid helm
only weapons are set to WF only
shrewd oriole
And azerite gear canโt even wf
devout hollow
no tier bonuses to mix though
shrewd oriole
So most of your gear will still be able to tf
shrewd oriole
^
devout hollow
shrewd oriole
Exactly the same thing
They just canโt wf now so we will see less usage of last tier pieces
Cuz their ilvl is static
And they are decently high budget stat pieces
viscid helm
to bad blizzard is going to fuck that up anyway
devout hollow
how
shrewd oriole
True
viscid helm
t1 will have CoF effect as bonus
shrewd oriole
Fuck going for mod flowi, go for lead game developer
shrewd oriole
Fury warriors casually using cos 890 over vari trinket 970
devout hollow
slightly better
shrewd oriole
haHAA
devout hollow
๐
vapid moth
So what is the point of the game not allowing people to pug mythic by now. Even if there was a cap to the number of pugs allowed
lethal heart
so you buy server transfers
zealous dew
can barely tolerate pugging HC
jovial kite
zealous dew
haha
deft sparrow
!relics
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gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
jovial kite
had to change avi
uncut shuttle
guys, what legos you running m+ or aoe situtations? I havent seen back lego on ass rogue yet
lone junco
uncut shuttle
I mean with poison build
lone junco
@uncut shuttle shoulder bracer. open mut env.
wait till stuff is relatively stacked and still before dropping stealth. then pray for bombs.
jovial kite
uncut shuttle
mut env things isnt so desparate? I am trying garrote all targets with subterfuge then mut>rupture all. rupture also has poison bomb chance
uncut shuttle
but it hits too much on cleave with subterfuge
plain thistle
you talking about cleave or AoE? like mythic plus?
uncut shuttle
consider like 5 targets
plain thistle
for mythic plus you should go shoulder+wrist with NS, and open with FoK > envenom > FoK > .... , after shoulder buff expires you should rupture 3-4 tagets, and back to fok + envenom
vendetta+Kb+TB the targets that needs to die
uncut shuttle
is fok > env hits good that much without posion or anything?
plain thistle
"without poison" ?
for AoE most of our damage comes from deadly poison, and envenom helps a lot with that, and envenom during shoulder hits a like a truck, more important than "wasting" shoulder buff to apply rupture to all targets
lone junco
as @zealous dew has shared with all his sin high M+ wisdom. if you want to do aoe, you need fat bombs in shoulder. else you just watch the warlock murder things with seed.
beyond the shoulder open, you can do a few tab ruptures on the biggest guys and fok spam out env.
uncut shuttle
I get it mostly thanks. FoK gives me random combo points sometimes. is that okay to use envenom at low cp for aoe?
coral karma
If you mean an extra CP by random, that's probably seal fate. I think
lone junco
Fok in shoulder is 1cp +1 per mob crit. so if there arent 4x I just mut env the open.
uncut shuttle
ah now I got it. shoulder + seal fate cause that
lone junco
after the shoulder fok away. in 2+ unless you have very high mut crit, then it is 3+
but basically garrote is not dps in M+ steath open cleave. esp during shoulder.
@uncut shuttle and as far as low cp env for aoe. nah. lots of things with env scale with cp spent. so just stick with 4+ cp.
uncut shuttle
I see. when shoulder expires, should I keep casting FoK? if its not crits, I feel like wasting my energy
quick talon
On 3+ targets easily
slender smelt
should i got for a 960ilvl shadow walker relic over a 945 master alchemist relic?
quick talon
sim it
lost mist
wut? should i use 1 on head, and the other one on the "other head", u know what i mean ๐
civic hinge
Write a ticket, a gm can reroll that one
lost mist
i did it
civic hinge
If he says he can't, reopen it. Did this too
midnight latch
no
zealous dew
wat
manic vigil
so mature
dry zodiac
nightstalker without shoulders?
lone junco
@dry zodiac depends. you can sim the talent differences.
shrewd oriole
nah, but I noticed lol
someone is gonna get trolled
it either dies tonight or I kms
starting raid tonight tho so
lone junco
keep yourself simmmed.
going to a 100 person symphony performance overlay of the 2nd harry potter movie.
nerd culture. ๐ต
coral karma
lol
quick talon
This UI ๐๐ฟ
lone junco
prob has good bleed trackers above cps. good and simple.
quick talon
@shrewd oriole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-4IAR_9Yw
jovial kite
bleeds under buffs over cps
lone junco
Exorsus gives me some extra clutter.
I do like my default player frame/cps better than these skins. but w/e
lots of dead people tho. you prob got to beast on the last buff phase.
eager kernel
https://gyazo.com/fca2c33195441761671f507b2672e015 love that rng!
zealous dew
lolz
shrewd oriole
@quick talon I love that guy
quick talon
ya he's great
dim sigil
guys how in the fuck is it possible that my envenom crits for 4.8M with Vendetta + Vanish????
i got 970 equipped, 191% mastery
exotic glen
whats so strange about that?
dim sigil
that seems kinda low?
jovial kite
#showtooltip
/cast Vanish
/stopattack
try this
due to latency you might break your vanish with auto attacks before you enmpower an ability with the vanish
@dim sigil
modest wind
listing icy veins as a place where you acquire knowledge
Or paid 
dim sigil
ok thanks @jovial kite
shrewd oriole
dont think my evenom crits for more than 6M lol
river citrus
My dear friends
What weakauras do u use?
And what addons do u use to track bleeds and shit
exotic glen
i use WAs
river citrus
but for targetting
calm grail
I sometimes use my mouse for targeting. Other times I use tab.
That's all Hardware though, you can't download that.
river citrus
nameplates
exotic glen
i think shadowed unit frames can do that, right?
river citrus
was pretty sure that link was a joke
calm grail
Huh?
shrewd oriole
probably didnt toy around with it enough
everything is possible on elvui pretty much lol
like this
not mine but
calm grail
Is 30 poison bombs back to back to back possible with ElvUI?
manic vigil
doesn't work ๐ฆ need flash
river citrus
my favorite is ol lemonparty.org
calm grail
You're all banned.
river citrus
put that as starting page on a friends computer back in 2004, his mother turned on the computer and got really shocked
bold dune
wow so cool /s
zealous dew
padder
jovial kite
fervent beacon
Any reason for that?
viscid helm
already ran it on progress
fervent beacon
do you run it on certain fight or just 100% of the time
viscid helm
always
fervent beacon
and I assume your stats would still be the same
bold dune
I guess you found one idiot who cares
viscid helm
someone is triggered
jovial kite
why nelbur so toxic
shrewd oriole
he hates fun
plucky gale
cause he sucks?
gaunt moat
rekt
jovial kite
what boss btw @viscid helm
shrewd oriole
aggra M
viscid helm
Aggra
quick talon
Its really hard to tell if people are serious are not
zealous dew
alacrity is great
warm parcel
alac was serious
zealous dew
dots tick faster
viscid helm
Im gonna start a petition
warm parcel
rest is something
zealous dew
and bleeds
river citrus
are u supposed to time toxic blade with something or just use it on cd?
civic palm
If we could spam TB, we would spam TB.
manic vigil
Flowi - Today at 20:28
6% PB
100% skill
that's gotta be the quote of the year already
exotic glen
15% concentrated power of will
zealous dew
ppl who play rogue in 2018 lul
manic vigil
fair point
zealous dew
even in lfr can't be top dips
zealous dew
you might be right
strange python
How to make aoe dps on m+ thrashes without cloak?
exotic glen
when you wanna get kicked
calm grail
So all the time ok
warm parcel
๐
calm grail
I'm a new rogue so, only serious ?s from me.
carmine plaza
when does feet/wrist start pulling ahead of mantle/wrist? only at 3MA relics?
calm grail
When your gear lets it.
calm grail
Just because the rotation feels different doesn't mean it's wrong.
Don't know why you'd wanna swap off shoulders and bracers though
More fun with those.
void pecan
boots/bracers sims higher for me
carmine plaza
likewise, about ~7k
turbid gust
HI ALL is there some in depth for subter vs. vigor?
shrewd oriole
they're not in the same row
turbid gust
LOL i meant strategem
exotic glen
you can just sim both talents and see the difference?
calm grail
Yeah the in depth explanation is that it's bad.
civic palm
DS used to compete, doesn't now.
jovial kite
play exsang and ds is godtier :3
shrewd oriole
fuck off
void pecan
^
shrewd oriole
that thing is annoying
muted gyro
Good evening fellow assassins.
So a questions: Under no circumstances should I use mutilate to generate the 5t combo point when I'm sitting at 4?
Imagine both my bleeds are up, in that case I should just 4CP envenom away?
calm grail
Get that hipster clot out of here.
shrewd oriole
weak build
jovial kite
and it has a name
civic palm
@muted gyro Correct, never Mutilate @ 4CP if you are using Vigor.
calm grail
But always muti at 4cp if using hemorrhage
muted gyro
Okay, thanks ๐ I'm a new rogue here, and I think I'm starving myself with those half-wasted mutilates at 4cp
civic palm
Nothing you do will matter if you are using Hemo, so sure.
calm grail
Exactly.
At four combo points they are only potentially half wasted. Probably more in reality if you have a reasonable amount of crit.
Yugeee waste
muted gyro
Yes, you're right
turbid gust
hmmm, i mean i cap like hell on energy deeper works a little bit better
civic palm
Way more than half wasted.
civic palm
Yeah but, yeah.
calm grail
Stop posting here until you go back poison.
jovial kite
why would i ever play the inferior spec
civic palm
Because you are already playing the inferior class.
calm grail
You might as well go play Survival hunter or demonology warlock you goddamn hipster.
jovial kite
so you want to be inferior within inferior
zealous dew
g00d b0y
civic palm
Yeah dig deeper, just, down as far as you can.
muted gyro
๐ฆ rogues really are the underdogs of this expansion/patch, eh?
rain pewter
why play sin when u can play LOTR sub
civic palm
No we're great.
calm grail
Nah.
civic palm
No underdog.
rain pewter
yeah rogues have had sick dmg all expac
civic palm
We also had the best bugs.
thorn sparrow
the assassin hidden artifact
does it drop from any of the gold star mobs in underbelly?
turbid gust
yes
civic palm
Yeah any rare.
thorn sparrow
_>
muted gyro
Oh well whatever, I totally love my new rogue and I don't give a damn about anything else ๐ Fun factor > all
thorn sparrow
how goddamn low is it
thorn sparrow
no chests right?
civic palm
Right
calm grail
Assassination sucked in tomb relative to Sub and still does worse in m+, but other than last tier, assassination had a good showing most raids.
muted gyro
And outlaw? dead in water?
civic palm
Yeah I was talking about "Rogues" in general.
thorn sparrow
can the rares spawn even if the guards are on break?
exotic glen
technically assa was sleeper op in tomb, but nobody knew it ๐ค
calm grail
But as a whole for the class, we have always been strong in something all expansion.
civic palm
We've been fine the entire way through.
calm grail
Outlaw was good for like the first month.
shrewd oriole
^
civic palm
Rares spawn whenever. Can be a little random though it feels.
jovial kite
i had no trouble playing assa in tomb ๐คท๐ฟ
civic palm
Yeah I played SIN throughout Tomb.
jovial kite
i had no trouble playing exsang either
shrewd oriole
exsang is trash
jovial kite
still isnt
calm grail
I still played it in tomb too, but I got shit for not playing sub from all my friends.
jovial kite
its better than it ever was
civic palm
Roll the Bones is trash.
exotic glen
well dp was bugged back then as well tom, so it was op
shrewd oriole
two target
civic palm
Is what's trash.
exotic glen
which is why i said sleeper
cloud cargo
why not call it ass rogue instead of assa
muted gyro
I'm liking sin so far, better than sub (just an opinion) but I wish that posion bomb (bag of tricks) wasn't so ... random
shrewd oriole
cuz some of us prefer boobs
viscid helm
what was wrong with sin in tomb?
shrewd oriole
for avatar a lot of people played sin lol
civic palm
It's not called ass because it's called SIN.
jovial kite
you needed assa in avatar progress before nerfs too fyi
civic palm
People calling it assa are the same that shorten my name to Mize and not Miz, and are idiots.
viscid helm
and those were the only 2 that had any revelance
turbid harbor
for avatar totally fine to play sin obviously
and i wasn't in a good enough guild for it to matter on kj
calm grail
DfA on Avatar was ๐
turbid harbor
but the difference on patchwerk dps
cloud cargo
i still like ass rogue better
turbid harbor
if you played sin on mistress prog tho?
turbid harbor
or like any patchwerk fight?
mistress might have been irrelevant for top 10 guilds
civic palm
So OP it's being removed from the fucking game.
civic palm
I am straight up missing words as I can only think about and smell beef jerky > _>
shrewd oriole
lul
dreamy plover
!relics
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gray_hounds relic sheet:
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muted gyro
guys what are those +2 and stuff next to titan trinkets on the chart?
viscid helm
we both played Alacrity
civic palm
Number of trinkets in raid.
vapid moth
Flowi is that Argus
viscid helm
aggra
strange python
Finally picked rogue as my main for BFA :D im super excited
civic palm
":D
rain pewter
dont be ๐
civic palm
Though you've got like... 6 months.. weirdo.
strange python
Lvling my rogue to 110 and enjoying the rogue class hall and story so far
Really neat so far
muted gyro
Okay another noobish question. Does that number next to golganneth's vitality include all other variety of titan trinkets? or just other golganneth
shrewd oriole
sewersLUL
civic palm
That number is there to show that the trinket will proc it's second proc, while the +10 is there to show the average DPS you can get from the trinket on average, with an average level of expected procs.
jovial kite
whats the issue here
calm grail
Alacrity is 2% lower.
calm grail
I was led to believe it would be a 10% DPS increase
jovial kite
15 panth even
calm grail
Hey don't u fucking laugh we have the panths!
jovial kite
rain pewter
@viscid helm stop fooling these people plz
calm grail
Real talk though, should I not sim the pantheon trinkets?
I just figured since they are they are, might as well.
I think we have like 19 used.
jovial kite
i dont sim pantheon trinkets when simming different builds / gear
calm grail
Sim 30 got it.
zealous dew
sim whole server
calm grail
โฟ โฟ
jovial kite
sim this :3
shrewd oriole
stop
rain pewter
โฟ ๐ท
shrewd oriole
flowi do you private log on farm?
viscid helm
yeh
old quartz
is alca only viable on agg or could replace TB completely?
old quartz
interesting. i sim 2.16M with TB, but just under 2.1 with Alc. im assuming its hard to sim this passive maybe?
viscid helm
you would have to ask that from someone who actually works on the APL
i'm pretty sure APL doesnt even try to 100% 2pc
old quartz
wouldnt surprise me
viscid helm
which is pretty easy with Alac
old quartz
interesting, im gonna give it a try later on
appreciate the heads up flowi, always enjoy min/max things like this that could actually be viable
safe matrix
One less button to press as sin FeelsGoodMan
old quartz
^^
thorn sparrow
strange python
does vanish break sentence chains on mythic argus?
tranquil birch
What legos do you run with alac flowi?
pure ingot
with Soul of the Shadowblade lego which talent should i run with it as assassination
deeper strat
or anticipation
peak smelt
is there a good way to build max stacks of alac before pulls? it takes a while to build stacks
viscid helm
altho if you dont use 2+4 there prob might be better lego setups
plain thistle
๐ค
viscid helm
boots might beat mantle
calm grail
๐ค
viscid helm
yes?
calm grail
๐ญ
safe matrix
But that's 7 slots
viscid helm
yes
viscid helm
?
calm grail
I don't know if it was your intention Flowi, but your avatar fucking cracks me up for some reason.
civic palm
and we still haven't converted to Alacrity.
viscid helm
so 2+4+mantle
civic palm
WTF is our problem?!
worthy thistle
safe matrix
See, that makes more sense
ancient sonnet
tranquil birch
I'm having difficulty seeing how 2p tier 20 is important here
Just even more energy return on multi targ?
tranquil birch
Ohh
safe matrix
I have a 980s tunnel trudgers ๐คท
plucky gale
I disenchanted my 975 ones awhile ago ๐ข
rotund pier
both pieces allows u to have a lot of crit, and it's 3000 mastery up 30% of the time which equals 1000 mast, 500 per item, so it's really like both hands and feet have 3 stats
they're not bad if you have 960+ for both
but not worth farming imo
plucky gale
I'm more happy that bleeds are affected by our mastery now
rotund pier
it all depends on off pieces and ilvl really
shrewd oriole
what ilvl are they
viscid helm
960 and 965
shrewd oriole
pretty nuts they only simmed at 970 970 for me
rotund pier
i sim at almost identical sim with 965 gloves and 960 boots vs my normal setup (both 973, shoulders/bracers, bis gear from M and 2.25 mill sim)
shrewd oriole
what are your current gloves / boots
rotund pier
960 socket tier gloves and 960 socket eonar(crit/mast)
shrewd oriole
mine are 965 coven 965 eonar
rotund pier
ironically enough, having 960 tier helm and 960 coven gloves sims less for me than 960 socket tier gloves and 965 mast/verse helm from M+
I'm at the point where we are 8/11m, 2nd on server, i am only portal keeper belt away from my version of bis(cept maybe gunning for better crucibles on 2 relics), and basically no reason loot-wise to do the last 3 lol. Still going to do it ofc, but that's a lot of prog time/wipes for no real rewards ๐
rotund pier
Fun and comradery is still my motivation though
shrewd oriole
sorry meant players* typo auto correct am on my phone
rotund pier
TF needs to go
shrewd oriole
it wont
turbid harbor
i hate it when i'm trying to be a nice boy but my autocorrect makes me toxic ๐
shrewd oriole
Tf is my achilles heel
Idk about you guys but I miss the days where I stood in the main hub
and people inspected you cuz of your gear
plucky gale
The good ol' days
rotund pier
yea man, pre TF and xmog was nice
shrewd oriole
yeah, I think being far superior to others was one of my favorite parts of raiding
civic palm
Jerky done, GREAT success.
turbid harbor
back when skill determined the quality of your gear in pve and pvp ๐คค
civic palm
Back when you could still get carried...
hardy pewter
you had complete nabs in 40 man raiding who got geared
civic palm
ojslfskjdhfksjhfs!! GOGOGO
shrewd oriole
raid's over
viscid helm
civic palm
You could get carried through most of Vanilla as well, but that stopped near the end.
zealous dew
you didn't use alacrity
fervent beacon
@viscid helm Do you still run vigor or do you switch to DS?
viscid helm
vigor
main monolith
bracers/mantle u bracer/boots , best option in argus mythic? ๐
plain thistle
better than through the floor like avatar ๐คท
quick talon
Well
the "through the floor" part is saved for argus
Jhonwei havent seen u in a while
u aight ?
quick talon
๐๐ฟ
plain thistle
im here almost all day, just not talking ๐
quick talon
Damn u just lurking ?
quick talon
ikr? Sad rogue days
plain thistle
nothing
I kinda like the gameplay, more energy, more spam, 1 less button to press
๐
quick talon
I got 2,4% haste
plain thistle
and even with 89% uptime T20 2p and 90% uptime envenom they are "close": https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mDR58ezRfSxRwZqVENZpAV
thats without pantheon procs
void pecan
Maybe it is actually good
and it doesn't sim right.
and those two are ahead of the curve..
manic vigil
calm grail
Sometimes I think that I want a balanced talent tree with real meaningful variety and choices, I realize that I don't feel like changing talents Boss by boss.
But then*
manic vigil
yeah playing my affli rn it's a little annoying actually if you have to change spec for every boss almost lel
I still think a proper spec needs options to go for st and aoe
rogue ded class tho
civic palm
Yeah I was hoping for meaningful choice between aoe and st but then...
fuck that no thanks.
manic vigil
๐
civic palm
great st, aoe that is fine, ๐
calm grail
That's what I read, good Affliction warlocks have to change their talents all the time, that sounds fucking tedious.
warm parcel
ye fuck that
calm grail
It's like I want choice, but I really don't.
civic palm
Listen here you.
void pecan
Meme lord EU boys.
manic vigil
weak
as a finnish superior rogue being you have a responsibility to be a guiding ligth
and not to troll us into bullshit
civic palm
Do not fret!!
warm parcel
xd
civic palm
For we have the holy SIM!!
calm grail
You see pre EN Outlaw was the shit. You want ST? Do your rotation. You want AOE? Do your rotation with Blade flurry on. Was great at both.
civic palm
Just... SiMiT :3
void pecan
I mean Flowi did do 2.4 on M aggramar..
manic vigil
yeah
void pecan
with alac..
void pecan
Who needs those when you're good at wow
calm grail
But if he's a Savant and he's mean, his insults have no weight.
calm grail
Flowi from 2016 https://goo.gl/images/niNbn6
fallow vector
Any good weak aura packs that track the blood rupture debuff? Or any general tips on packs?
civic palm
If you want to make a WA to track Blood of the Assassinated it's rather straight forward.
Though I am sure that wago.io has plenty of them.
calm grail
If you are not playing bleed build, is there really a reason to track it?
calm grail
In fact, I see all these people talking about surge of toxins and tracking the set Beth, you really just need to track envenom and play your rotation normally.
Set bonus*
civic palm
Well you just need to remember that SoT is 5 seconds and ENV is 6 seconds.
There, 2 timers in one ๐
manic vigil
I don't bother with it either
with weak's anti 100% uptime thingy it made sense I guess
but I think that meme is dead already
civic palm
The only time SoT can be considered important is if you are 3BB/3Malch.
calm grail
Uhh
civic palm
and are trying to do the TB/ENV/KB hilarity.
midnight latch
frosted lake weak?
civic palm
Yeah I do not get it > _>
fallow vector
Ah okay thanks
manic vigil
that looks hot.. erm.. cold?
quick talon
I guess only weak gets it
manic vigil
does he?
quick talon
not sure
calm grail
That's a real knee slapper.
manic vigil
explain your joke in 2018 iWin
quick talon
no I dont explain jokes
manic vigil
manic vigil
the dumb may not laugh
quick talon
๐ข
๐ ๐
๐๐ฟ
๐
calm grail
Someone ban this racist fuck.
quick talon
pls
manic vigil
quick talon
thats nelburs job
calm grail
No one likes Nelbur. He's a nasty man.
void pecan
If only we had a cool WA.
I made one that flashes gold coins and plays the sound when you win a slot machine for PB..
shrewd oriole
I love it
warm parcel
good ol red lights
calm grail
Kinda miss bandits guile.
tranquil birch
Yea so while my boots/wrists sets is definitely simming higher the results in game have been total shit
I really don't understand
Like across the board every fight
void pecan
It's all about that ramp up
I haven't played shoulders in a while.. maybe I should try that to compare..
steep obsidian
what do you mean velox?
steep obsidian
was just wondering about his results ing ame comment
shrewd oriole
well
steep obsidian
shoulders have a higher rng ceiling shoulder bombs are nuts
shrewd oriole
that as well but
if due to fight duration boots dont net you + vendettas than you would've normally had
I always reccomend shoulders bracers tbh execute is fine and the high roll is real
calm grail
Boots are fucking rubbish
Live the crit dream
Unless you're doing Mythic Kingaroth and wanna be more helpful on adds lol
manic vigil
dat neck, gieF
tranquil birch
yeah mythic kin has been the only fight where I've liked it
manic vigil
I actually tried that (on heroic mind you) and had the worst performance ever xD no clue why (mantle boots)
usually I run mantle bracers
manic vigil
I know but I still performed best with that setup
shrewd oriole
like I said
manic vigil
or maybe it was mantle/crown
shrewd oriole
high roll lol
manic vigil
shouldn't the boots help me? or do I also need 3MA?
shrewd oriole
all best logs are shoulders bracers
3MA boots is so nice for KG ye
can use vendetta on pull
shrewd oriole
I use it on pull
torn token
you save vendetta for first add then you can use it on boss and add
if your using boots
shrewd oriole
With 3 MA boots
manic vigil
oh
rough halo
What if you have 3MA 3Malch...
manic vigil
tranquil birch
Vendetta on pull with 3ma and boots?
never tried that
would be sick af if it works tho
torn token
well first add comes out
at 40 seconds
so yes you can
i nvr tried it myself but technically speaking it should work
i usually just wait for first add
manic vigil
I tried that because I'm an idiot
did not work because I only have 2MA atm
I also just realized that boots/bracers sims higher now thasn any other combination. t20 ftw
I used to take a loss because I wanted to but now it's actually better
shrewd oriole
Bless shoulder bracers
manic vigil
also outperformed myself on garothi and varimathras with boots/bracers. Can't touch the dps with mantle again
but my one raid group is super shitty and fights take forever
so that is a little scewed
torn token
but vanish pbs ๐
manic vigil
troof
idk, playing without mantle is even more faceroll kinda ๐
can't really do anything wrong
shrewd oriole
Yeah but logs
manic vigil
can't compete with you big boiz anyway ๐คท
shrewd oriole
Touchรฉ
manic vigil
but even in my realm you are right ofc
mantle into bombs are always welcome, amiright
torn token
gotta pray for more pbs during openers
torn token
i actually hate the vari fight
every week without fail i get necrotic at the same time i tank the mark
chrome folio
I want a Fang... I have a 950 EoC which should sim higher than 960 fang, but Fang is just better when target switching
No luck so far
torn token
my monk alt has better trinkets than my rogue ๐
wide bolt
Monk in my raid got a 985 fang
Was not pleased that i got mine on one of our first kills anymore
chrome folio
980 neck from hounds dropped on like week 3. I had to roll against the druid tank and lost ????????
Still mad
livid crescent
Finally in the 2.2m club
vapid moth
Druid tank should not have gotten that @chrome folio. Dps is more important
plain thistle
cool guys are in the 2.3m club now, sorry to disappoint you
vapid moth
As a tank you're not gonna notice 700 additional vers
torn token
gearing tanks b4 dps ๐
zinc wyvern
are the leggo boots anygood?
vapid moth
Yes. Top 3. And rises to 1 on other bosses
prime void
@shrewd oriole are those heroic or mythic logs ?
Doesn't matter where you look, sickplayer just making tom look bad
@plain thistle do you have some big dick relics to be simming that high ?
prime void
I've got some nice haste in there lol
Some garrote dmg
I've only been sin for 1 or 2 reclears tho- so not much potential for relics.
plain thistle
x2 torment , 1x shocklight. 2MA and 1 BB
prime void
yeah, def not bad.
plain thistle
all 3 relics = MAalch
fast nacelle
