#assassination

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jovial kite
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np πŸ˜ƒ

calm grail
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I know you play Bleed Rogue, but if you played assassination Rogue, you probably don't change gear that often except maybe on Kin right?

jovial kite
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shoulder boots for kinga

viscid helm
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someone changes gear on fights?

calm grail
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Yeah, that's all I change up.

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I don't even bother trying to cheese damage on eonae

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Eonar*

jovial kite
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id laugh at 95% logs on eonar

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that would mean

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you were actually whoring

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on the most afk boss of the game

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for the only sake of logs

viscid helm
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I'm assigned to the 1st ship

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after that

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i just AFK

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at the ship

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for the rest of the fight

magic laurel
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quick question, stats for rouge: stack mastery as much as possible or does mastery have a hard cap?

jovial kite
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no caps

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sim you self

safe matrix
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whats a rouge

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isnt that a type of blush?

jovial kite
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ruush

lost horizon
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<- Eonar is like one of my best fights... Feeeeelsbadman

nimble tartan
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melee cant be targeted by cone im p sure cause during prog we had a hard left cone bait

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and i never went over ther

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and never got targeted

jovial kite
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that makes no sense though

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or im understanding it wrong

lone junco
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Makes sense with the method offset cone. Melee to the interior. Range ext. swings the cone to the outside edge every time.

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Or I'm seeing it wrong.

nimble tartan
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the way mechanics in wow works is they setup tier lists on who can get targeted by x mechanic

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so it can be like Ranged>>>ranged healer>>>>hpal>>>mleee

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when they designing shit

lost horizon
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Don't half of them just end up being threat related though?

nimble tartan
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so could be we are p low on that tier for that specific mechanic

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that it just doesnt happenn to us

jovial kite
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@lost horizon not anymore

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for a long time i think

lost horizon
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I thought KJ was

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For adds

jovial kite
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no

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its totally random

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member when you had to use threat reduction / threat redirection for boss mechanics

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i member

lost horizon
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<- legion baby

jovial kite
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member when timer was 5 4 3 2 1 1 sunder 2 sunder 3 sunder 4 sunder GO

lost horizon
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A lot of those mechanics probably have hidden triggers it's just difficult to determine with any real certainty

viscid helm
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it really isnt

jovial kite
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im pretty sure they dropped it to the point of not being controllable by players

safe matrix
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probably not

jovial kite
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because otherwise there would be things to play around such mechanics

lost horizon
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They're probably still too random to actually play around

jovial kite
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so why keep it

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at all

viscid helm
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no

lost horizon
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Easier than 'true rng'

viscid helm
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thats simply not how they work

shrewd oriole
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Jack is streamin pogchamp

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Kappa

strange python
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can someone give me WA for 2set sin

jovial kite
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ye come watch

viscid helm
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Who are we watching

shrewd oriole
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Jack

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the least creepy guy on wow

topaz axle
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i am not

jovial kite
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outlaw is leaking again

topaz axle
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spec bot is ded

strange python
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nobody Virulent Poisons WA?

viscid helm
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i mean

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that's literally the simplest WA

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ever

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to make

strange python
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im -999 skill in wa

viscid helm
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Should just watch tutorial on youtube or something

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on making simple buff/debuff WA's

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gonna cover pretty much all of your needs

dire spoke
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why would you want a WA for it since it's gonna be up when you clip other buffs anyway

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I don't get it

viscid helm
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dont tell that to Weak

dire spoke
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lol

strange python
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coz its shorter then surge

dire spoke
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but you're not playing around it

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or am I wrong

viscid helm
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you can

dire spoke
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while KB maybe?

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idk, still learning tho

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sub hit me hard

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forgot all the sin

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at least I started to clip / back2back SoT while KB since it obviously modifies the base damage

rough halo
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anyone got some advice for AHC?

strange python
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is surge affected by how many combo points the finisher has

dire spoke
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the debuff's tooltip on the target says no

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but who can trust this shite

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let me test something

warm parcel
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2% per cp

dire spoke
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oh shit it is relevant

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but actually doesn't change anything

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you don't force 5CP

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at least I don't

shrewd oriole
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@warm parcel can melee bait cones?

warm parcel
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what do you mean

dire spoke
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lol

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Tom panics about getting benched kappa

worthy thistle
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ppl still saying that surge scales with cp notlikethis

dire spoke
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@worthy thistle what do you mean? it does

quick ice
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Because it does?

worthy thistle
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no it doesnt

shrewd oriole
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@warm parcel if melees can bait the position where the cone goes

worthy thistle
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prove it

dire spoke
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I have 153k KB ticks without SoT
159k with 2CP
168k with 5CP

warm parcel
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cone is just random person

dire spoke
quick ice
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It's been proven before

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A lot of times

warm parcel
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sot scaling was proven 1Β½ years ago

dire spoke
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whoops

worthy thistle
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doesnt prove anything tho

dire spoke
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you should test it

quick ice
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Common knowledge at this point

dire spoke
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the unlisted KB lowkey triggered me I had to comment lol

worthy thistle
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ye ima test it tomorrow but pretty sure people are just assuming at this point because everyone says so

warm parcel
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No

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Cause it was proven 3 weeks after launch

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Ktybye

dire spoke
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the tooltip was never fixed

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that is the issue with most of the false information

turbid harbor
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cones go on anybody apart from people with rages @shrewd oriole

drifting crypt
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im pretty sure i have seen ranged with rage get targeted by the cone πŸ€”

main blaze
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Yeah they can

turbid harbor
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oh, i didn't know that

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it can't go on melee with rage though

main blaze
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Melee dont get cones

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with rage

dire spoke
shrewd oriole
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lmao

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that website

dire spoke
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🀷 better than wowhead

quick ice
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In fairness, it's actually right about this

worthy thistle
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alright ur right

dire spoke
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testing > claiming

prime void
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@warm parcel rogerbrown and method josh were on a vod and said that melee can't bait cones.

dire spoke
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are they even relevant? autism

shrewd oriole
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mizuxe yeah I asked in the warr discord

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top 20 warr main theorycrafter said you cant

tender adder
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i need a good tabard to submit to my guild we are changing it!

dire spoke
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@tender adder ask in Paladin Discord https://goo.gl/Z82C4C they have a thing for tabards and hero complexes

prime void
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said you cant

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as in melle can not bait cone ?

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@main blaze melee cant get cone period

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regardless of rage/fear

main blaze
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Really?

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I didnt know that

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Strat is just to stack with ranged for a good part of p1 so never noticed

prime void
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mhm

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makes dropping your soulblight less stressful

main blaze
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huh thats interesting. Now I know how I will drop soublight from now on

prime void
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esp with the mongo ass strat my guild uses.

shrewd oriole
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yep

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what strat do you use?

prime void
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tell me you love me tom

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for the dank knowledge

shrewd oriole
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we use the paragon strat

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it's cancer

prime void
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method.

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the around the room bs

shrewd oriole
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I like method

main blaze
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We just go straight across the room

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its nice

shrewd oriole
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same

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dunno I Dont like it

main blaze
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1 type of buff left and the other right and the raid splits and it works well

dire spoke
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Just to make it clear for me, melees don't get targeted by cone whatsoever?
And does it work for all difficutlies?

shrewd oriole
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that's paragon strat

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ye zempai

dire spoke
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okay

prime void
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sorry I couldn't find a source tom

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Hopefully your RL will belive 😦

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I looked for like an hour lol.

dire spoke
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goodguy mizuxe πŸ™

prime void
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2-5

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I'm getting better at this helping ppl thing

shrewd oriole
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dw

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I found a source

dire spoke
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I'll rate you 4 spaghettis out of 2 full moons

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was it on vod with finalboss tho?

main blaze
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Link would be nice

shrewd oriole
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nah

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just like

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7 differnt people

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saying the same thing

prime void
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mhm

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It's on a vod somewhere

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I just couldnt find it

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and didnt wanan sift through 2 hour videos

shrewd oriole
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ashine (officer for wiping as intended and probably best sub rogue EU) on pms

dire spoke
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@prime void I mean the one with mystler ... not sure if josh was there and so

shrewd oriole
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Josh, Rogerbrown (on stream)

dire spoke
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oh

shrewd oriole
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RL for walkthrough Cirranor

dire spoke
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sorry pika

shrewd oriole
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and a few more poeple

prime void
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see

shrewd oriole
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to me half a dozen people saying the same thing counts as a source

prime void
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II bring the info

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tom backs me up

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ez pz

shrewd oriole
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πŸ‘

prime void
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waht time is it there tom

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I feel like I see you on during my night and morning lol

dire spoke
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that's why I like this place πŸ™

prime void
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I like sin channel a lot during the slow hours

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I can't keep up during the fast hours lol

shrewd oriole
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2 am

prime void
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Ahh

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6pm here

shrewd oriole
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I go to bed late and wake up whilst you're sleeping

dire spoke
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3am here

shrewd oriole
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so you see me a lot

prime void
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I sleep from 9am-4pm typicaly

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my time

bright mantle
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opener for assasin? is..

shrewd oriole
bright mantle
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hmm so no vendetta? ugh my friends are idiots

quiet ginkgo
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what do you mean

bright mantle
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they said theres a new opener where u start with vendetta

quiet ginkgo
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Never heard of that :/

bright mantle
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saying chineese players use it for a dps increase

shrewd oriole
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yeah there is

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it's a small dps increase over regular opener

bright mantle
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ahh i see

shrewd oriole
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but

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it's quite minimal

prime void
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vendetta opener reminds me of symbols post dfa @shrewd oriole

shrewd oriole
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kek

bright mantle
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well if it does more then its better no?

dire spoke
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I'm not the only one who remembers Tom

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rip

shrewd oriole
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yeah

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it is

dire spoke
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but on topic, I feel like vend out of stealth only is an increase if you have good connection

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if you can't buttonsmash like a retard it will do shite

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imo

prime void
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22 ms πŸ˜‰

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I'll play around with it tonight

dire spoke
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I tried

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something's not quite right

shrewd oriole
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our rshaman is too cute

strange python
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What do you you guys think of the alpha

shrewd oriole
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more specific pls

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assa? rogue as a whole? the questing? all specs?

dire spoke
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holi faaak

dense blaze
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Does evasion do anything on M Argus

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Guild is driving me nuts telling me to evasion edge of annihilation and boss scythes for positioning

shrewd oriole
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you cant evade it

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I've tried lol

dense blaze
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Makes no sense as to why you would be able to in the first place

shrewd oriole
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you can dodge whirldwind on ahc

fiery nest
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yo with poison build do you ever use vanish to apply a buffed rupture? or just to vanish envenom

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he asked about argus lol

shrewd oriole
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I know

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but ahc is pretty much the only thing you can evade xd

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I answered for argus

fiery nest
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no you didnt you answered for antorus

solid sonnet
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omg

shrewd oriole
solid sonnet
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get along

shrewd oriole
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brain afk?

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anyways

fiery nest
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"M Argus" πŸ€”

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"scythes"

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"edge of annihilation"

shrewd oriole
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"you cant evade it"

solid sonnet
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nobody cares who is right

fiery nest
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nothing to do with AHC

shrewd oriole
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I know

fiery nest
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holy shit you are dense

shrewd oriole
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mao

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I'm just saying I answered his Q and then I just added the thing about ahc

solid sonnet
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lol

shrewd oriole
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anyways

fiery nest
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yeah you answered some random boss in antorus, not argus

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holy shit

shrewd oriole
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yes you vanish rupture sub 30%

fiery nest
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1 iq

solid sonnet
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you guys must be fun irl

shrewd oriole
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you're fucking retarded, I answered his Q before the AHC comment

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lmao

gaunt moat
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!mute @shrewd oriole

chrome tuskBOT
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@shrewd oriole is now πŸ™Šhere!

old quartz
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thank you!

fiery nest
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"does evasion do anything on M argus" "yeah you can dodge adds in AHC" you didn't answer his question at all though

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1 i q

old quartz
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dude was annoying as hell, everytime i look at this channel hes talking about some nonsense

tranquil birch
gaunt moat
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no need to be that desperate to prove you're right.
and hipz, can you calm down as well?

fiery nest
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dude calls me retarded when he doesnt know the difference between argus and antorus πŸ˜‚

dense blaze
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What the fuck did I start, calm the hell down

tranquil birch
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Pretty sure Tom knows the difference lol

fiery nest
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then why say you can dodge the whirlwind on AHC when they guy was clearly asking about mythic argus? makes no sense. then when i point it out he calls me retarded. ok

gaunt moat
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ok, get over it.

spare cloud
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I like turtles

fiery nest
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ah i can call people retards here when i'm wrong? sweet

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noted

gaunt moat
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clearly not. do you wanna keep arguing with yourself?

fiery nest
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Tom, Defender of the Cheese - Today at 8:26 PM
you're fucking retarded, I answered his Q before the AHC comment

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clearly he did

tranquil birch
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they're both physical aoe

gaunt moat
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!mute @fiery nest

chrome tuskBOT
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@fiery nest is now πŸ™Šhere!

solid sonnet
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πŸ˜„

still tangle
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thank you

old quartz
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ty!

tranquil birch
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😌

dire spoke
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if you don't understand what a "side comment/note" is don't start to argue about it

old quartz
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#cleanhouse

spare cloud
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Wait what

gaunt moat
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you need to learn when to drop it.

tranquil birch
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I wonder what percentage of mutes on this server come from this channel

spare cloud
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Is the mute serverwide?

gaunt moat
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this is the most active channel
and we don't mute than often actually

south terrace
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lmao

spare cloud
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I'm quite surprised he didn't go to spam other channels

gaunt moat
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if they wanna keep arguing they can keep doing it in DMs

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but i'm pretty sure both have had enough

ruby badge
normal plover
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That was a silly argument

keen inlet
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Many of them here are lately

tranquil birch
dire spoke
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since we're at it

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I have this odd scene where KB comes off CD for the first time after opener and rupture is at like 10s or so?

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do you refresh rup early there?

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or am I just being stupid

tranquil birch
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If you pool enough energy before kb you will be able to refresh durring kb without env dropping

gaunt moat
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i don't really refresh rupture at 10+
but there have been cases i did on 9
can't say it's ideal though

dire spoke
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I delayed KB to refresh rup at perfect pandemic

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sometimes

tranquil birch
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well don't do that

dire spoke
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but I felt dirty

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lol

tranquil birch
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just make sure to pre-pool before kb and it shouldn't be a problem

dire spoke
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alright

tranquil birch
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Also make sure you're "clipping" the envenom debuff and not just spamming in that case

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because you know you're going to be needing a little extra energy if you will need to also refresh rupture in addition to maintaining the env debuff durring kb

dire spoke
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well I even try to clip SoT while KB since it's relevant

tranquil birch
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I'd only worry about getting a cast off for the last 5s for SoT, otherwise just focus on envenom uptime

void pecan
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Notter, you're actually modding

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I'm impressed.

tranquil birch
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the poison applications are more important

gaunt moat
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not sure if praise or insult πŸ€”

void pecan
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Uh

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sarcastic insult

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mostly praise

gaunt moat
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XD

remote gorge
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does insignia of ravenholdt work on toxic blade/kingsbane?

dire spoke
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@tranquil birch yeah sure, it's not easy to min-max when you don't really know how you end up with energy

tranquil birch
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what do you mean?

gaunt moat
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yes cyat, it should

spare cloud
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didnt someone say recently that kb doesn't benefit from sot?

tranquil birch
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was debunked, wowhead is wrong

spare cloud
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Ah

dire spoke
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I mean you can pool as much as you want, at some point you will drop env from either not enough energy after X finishers or cp cucking you

spare cloud
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thats why having 20% is much fun to play with

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makes it a challenge.

tranquil birch
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doesn't happen for me 🀷 might need more crit

dire spoke
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yeah I'm at 29% base

tranquil birch
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ahh

prime void
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What doesnt happen for you? Dropping envenom ?

spare cloud
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100% evenom uptime

tranquil birch
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not very much

spare cloud
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lul

prime void
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Linm logs ?

tranquil birch
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I mean

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tok

prime void
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Link?

tranquil birch
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okkk

spare cloud
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Oh boy

tranquil birch
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like it happens sometimes lets be real

dire spoke
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well you drop env while rup refresh, you can't play around that all the time

prime void
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I mean you should have around 80%.

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Eh yeah you can zempai

dire spoke
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stop making me feel bad

tranquil birch
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All I'm saying is you should be able to refresh rupture without it being a massive problem with a good pre pool

prime void
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But crit is always going to come into play even if you do play around it

gaunt moat
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pinned messages got boring... i need a meme to pin πŸ€”

spare cloud
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Pin nelbur

onyx falcon
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Pin a bunny meme

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Everyone excepts a top notch meme from the bunny

fervent beacon
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'How not to open as sin'

spare cloud
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oh god

onyx falcon
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Lol 3.5 s in to do 4 garrotes

dire spoke
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well

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I'm using finishers at 5CP and 4CP about 50%-50% right now

gaunt moat
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lol hand of david? it was just a women look at a light XD

tranquil birch
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oh nono, painting is called Michelangelo's Creation of Adam

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let me find it

dire spoke
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on another note I have mostly around 15 wasted CP with seal fate on ST fights

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soo yeah idk where to optimize really

gaunt moat
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15 is normal-ish

spare cloud
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how do you check that again

tranquil birch
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all time favorite

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oh and assassination symbol over Adam's head

dire spoke
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@spare cloud resources -> (dropdown menu on the left) combo points

spare cloud
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Thanks

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Like most of the time I waste cp is when I got 4 cp before kb comes up

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and I still have an evenom up

dire spoke
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I usually have rupture cucking my KB timing

wet harness
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hey anyone with a razer noga that can help me out ?

spare cloud
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Well idk

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there usually is no problem refreshing rupture in kb

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when you save before hand

dire spoke
gaunt moat
spare cloud
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I have a test in a few hours but I cant sleep which is nice

gaunt moat
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good luck :X

spare cloud
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good thing i have 5 more tries if i fail

gaunt moat
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i tried to sleep at 1:30
given up at 3:30.
fuck me.

spare cloud
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I felt asleep during the day

dire spoke
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): notter

spare cloud
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like 15:00-18:00

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cucked me hard

dire spoke
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you want to talk about something? what is going on

gaunt moat
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yeah same

dire spoke
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):

spare cloud
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Well guess I'm failing today, not like I would get a good grade anyways 🀷

dire spoke
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listen to some notter asmr

spare cloud
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Why is it not pinned yet btw

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thought the asmr session was like a few days ago

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this is the shit

spare cloud
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thats actually cute af

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why is it that when I maximise a video in discord my client crashes

dire spoke
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idk, it's bugged

spare cloud
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happens to you as well?

dire spoke
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yeah

spare cloud
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Hollow knight is really fun btw

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gud game

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But I really suck at platforming

gaunt moat
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yeah it's like my favorite 2017 game

spare cloud
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I really enjoy the atmosphere the game brings

dire spoke
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is it because the character is a rabbit notter?

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πŸ€” at least it looks like one

spare cloud
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πŸ€”

shrewd oriole
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Evening friends

spare cloud
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wtf is with that guy in sub writing since 5 minutes

shrewd oriole
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big question

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leave it for fuu

spare cloud
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Oh god

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I've never seen anyone write that long

dire spoke
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I totally didn't know about that game

spare cloud
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I've played 8 hours so far, its really worth it

shrewd oriole
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what game

spare cloud
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Hollow Knight

shrewd oriole
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oh

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Yeah it's solid

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also @dire spoke 15 wasted cp is totally fine

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if you're at 3 cps and you muti, which is the correct play, you can be wasting up to 2 cps

spare cloud
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that moment when you crit too much

shrewd oriole
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if you look here, I wasted 35 on this argus kill

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lul

spare cloud
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Posting logs of yourself in assa

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Hmmmmmm

shrewd oriole
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happens easily

spare cloud
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the dude is still writing

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will he ever stop?

dire spoke
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tom is bae

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leave him alone >:

spare cloud
shrewd oriole
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think he's refering to the guy in the sub channel

dire spoke
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oh

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ahahah

shrewd oriole
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these are all just randomly selected logs from my weekly wednesday heroic pug

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so fair to assume you can easily waste cps

dire spoke
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well with higher crit values I assume it's even easier cus you end up 3+3 more often maybe

spare cloud
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3 4

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seems fun

dire spoke
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or that

shrewd oriole
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or even

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2 4

spare cloud
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eww

shrewd oriole
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super easy to waste cps

dire spoke
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if I had 40% crit I would try anti 100%

spare cloud
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guess you gotta go 6cp to not waste so many then

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πŸ€”

shrewd oriole
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I have like 30 + 24 from traits so

dire spoke
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or say 35% + trinket

spare cloud
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20% here

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  • EoC and traits
shrewd oriole
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my eoc is only 940 😦

spare cloud
#

Mine is 930

#

which is nice

shrewd oriole
#

940 eoc

#

is so close to 965 dogs

#

dumb

dire spoke
#

I have 945 fang

#

ending up 36% crit with the buff

#

if I'd end up 40%+ I would try anti

shrewd oriole
#

how many BB do u have

dire spoke
#

I only have you bb

shrewd oriole
#

lmao ❀

spare cloud
#

wtf

dire spoke
#

@shrewd oriole one

#

2 MAlch
3 MAss

gaunt moat
#

heh, can you delete the text?

shrewd oriole
#

not bad

tranquil birch
#

yea

shrewd oriole
#

I have 3 malchs 1 mass 2 bbys

gaunt moat
#

no i mean

#

what you typed

gaunt moat
#

hello?

shrewd oriole
#

eoc is too good 😦

dire spoke
#

why do you sim so much higher

#

holy shit

shrewd oriole
#

cuz I'm a good player lol

tranquil birch
#

Let me just reuppload without the message

#

it wont let me

gaunt moat
#

what do you mean

patent delta
#

Good at game clearly

gaunt moat
#

just edit your message

shrewd oriole
#

exactly

tranquil birch
#

ahh ok

shrewd oriole
#

good players get good pbs and tfs cmonbruh

#

what do you mean my cousin got 980 bracers on his first normal run ever and he's 13 ahah

dire spoke
#

that's why I got 985 gloves huh

shrewd oriole
#

he's clearly skilled.

#

deservant of that loot

patent delta
#

Yeah I got 3 bis first legos

gaunt moat
#

@tranquil birch hello?

patent delta
#

Bc I’m good

shrewd oriole
#

shoulders were last leggo

#

cuz I'm bad

dire spoke
#

@shrewd oriole what's your weapon lvl?

tranquil birch
#

I'M WORKING ON IT NOTTER GEEZ

patent delta
#

Yeah you need to get better at legos

shrewd oriole
#

998

#

could be higher

gaunt moat
#

what's to work, just delete the text before the image

shrewd oriole
#

I have a 3 ilvl weapon upgrade in bag but it's a second mass

dire spoke
#

well okay

shrewd oriole
#

so Igotta wait on a better iron relic

dire spoke
#

thats 11 higher than mine

shrewd oriole
#

wont be too hard

gaunt moat
#

the text where you tagged me

shrewd oriole
#

weaponilvl isnt that important for assa tbh zempai

#

how much versa do you have

dire spoke
#

I know, I replaced 960 relic with 945 still upgrade

gaunt moat
#

are you 🎸

#

text BEFORE the image

#

not the image itself XD

tranquil birch
#

THERE

shrewd oriole
#

what the

gaunt moat
dire spoke
#

idk what the rabbit wants

shrewd oriole
#

dont use the A word

#

@dire spoke ss ur stats and what do you even sim at

#

haste is worth as much as agi for me πŸ€”

tranquil birch
#

My day has been made❀

gaunt moat
#

i like the TB censor XD

shrewd oriole
#

interesting if you put it into context, golganneth's vitality is 5k haste

tranquil birch
#

sfw πŸ˜›

shrewd oriole
#

πŸ€”

dire spoke
#

SS MonkaWot

shrewd oriole
#

screenshot not the nazi police tyler1Monk

#

giggle is asleep

dire spoke
#

@shrewd oriole to be fair you did a 16 panth sim there, you cheeser

shrewd oriole
#

with 8

#

20k dps 🀷

#

arent you troll? that's literally the dps difference between troll and belf ahaha

dire spoke
#

fok u

#

πŸ˜„

shrewd oriole
#

it's true play the superior race

#

trolls are ugly

dire spoke
#

I'm stuck with my setup

shrewd oriole
#

ye

#

that's the problem with triple mass relic

#

hard to move relics around

dire spoke
#

I also tried today

#

need at least 970 set-head + 970 offset gloves

#

to outsim set-gloves

shrewd oriole
#

yeah u'll be hearing gloves forever

#

should try and get aggra pants

#

so you can go tier helm chest gloves cloak off piece pants

dire spoke
#

let me sim that

shrewd oriole
#

thing is

#

even if I get the upgrades I'm missing

#

I can only go up 16k, aside tf aside

#

well,

#

30 something k if I get my relics fixed

#

and then another 15k ish k if I get eoc 960 but that's fringe

tranquil birch
#

Damn that's the first 2.3 sim I've seen

dire spoke
#

he's not 2.3

shrewd oriole
#

so realistically, I have like, 30k dps left to go to be at a realistic "max"

#

that's depressing

#

I'm not 2.3

#

im 2.75

#

I'm saying that after we kill argus and I replace my 945 pieces

tranquil birch
#

ahh

shrewd oriole
#

I'll be 2.29

dire spoke
#

lol

shrewd oriole
#

I'm only 2.3 when I fix my relics and upgrade my heroic legs and helm

#

which will be a week or two after I'm done with argus

dire spoke
#

yeah same for me, I need like the 4 right items until I can change my setup

tranquil birch
#

damn on argus and still heroic legs? feelsbadman

shrewd oriole
#

yeah ahaha

#

heroic helm too

#

the guy who got the only vanq helm is benched

#

: (

tranquil birch
#

lol

shrewd oriole
#

heroic ring as well

onyx rock
#

Now i want to sim too

shrewd oriole
#

3 heroic pieces still 973

#

LUL

turbid harbor
#

you say your relics are bad

#

my weapon is 983

#

and i have a light speed and an envenom trait

shrewd oriole
#

lul

#

mine are bad, yours are trash

#

: (

turbid harbor
#

i barely sim over 2.2 πŸ˜„

dire spoke
#

I don't say my relics are bad, It just completely isolates me from switching around gear

spare cloud
#

I'm wearing a 970 MAlch one with FoK

shrewd oriole
#

ew

#

fok in 2k18

spare cloud
#

still sims better than anything else I've gotten

#

😦

shrewd oriole
#

: (

spare cloud
#

But.

#

Can I fok with 4cp?

#

LUL

turbid harbor
#

pretty sure i'll get funnelled relics from next reset

#

but they have to drop first

shrewd oriole
#

are you on full farm yet?

turbid harbor
#

only killed aggramar and argus once

#

so they might be a bit of a challenge

shrewd oriole
#

ah you can easily get relics then

turbid harbor
#

but yea

dire spoke
#

we only reclear every second week now

#

sux a bit

#

(at least that's the plan)

shrewd oriole
#

your gear isnt even that bad

#

it's just your relics

spare cloud
#

Find another guild that raids on the other weeks

turbid harbor
#

is mine with 20 pantheon

shut willow
#

What is this "anti" people are talking about with high crit?

turbid harbor
#

cba opening wow and doing another one

shrewd oriole
#

rip

#

anticipation

shut willow
#

Oh got it

shrewd oriole
#

with 20 pantheon I sim 2.3 i think

#

20 pantheon is highly unrealistic tho lmao

turbid harbor
#

yea i was just seeing how much it varied by adding pantheon

#

kept it open from a couple days ago

shrewd oriole
#

thankfully not much

#

unlike outlaw or enh

shut willow
#

I tried it but I didn't like it. I have 37% with food/flask and I have trinket from dogos 965

turbid harbor
#

yea

shrewd oriole
#

😠

turbid harbor
#

had 1 str pantheon on argus kill

#

don't think i got a proc entire fight

dire spoke
#

my relics? they are not bad for poison 🀷

shut willow
#

My relics are shit. I have 3 malch but the ilvl are 945,955,955 and only one mass malch. Need 3x mass/malch so I can rock boots.

dire spoke
#

matt still writing btw

spare cloud
#

Yeah I think he might be asleep on keyboard

shut willow
#

Face roll?

dire spoke
spare cloud
shut willow
#

Aggr pants are gud, I wear them all the time with the Garothi shoulders

shrewd oriole
#

told ya

#

favorable statting

shut willow
#

Or sometimes leggo shoulders bracers

#

I want to go back to bracers boots

#

I don't like Legos in tier spots.

dire spoke
#

well it won't happen to me anyway to get both 960 forged

#

so I just cry in my corner until BfA

shrewd oriole
#

what do you mena

#

get them baseline 960

#

cmonbruh

dire spoke
#

@shrewd oriole boost me

shrewd oriole
#

sounds like a player skill issue

dire spoke
#

πŸ‘Ί

shrewd oriole
#

cmon you have till august to kill argus u can do it

shut willow
#

I have 965 from heroic for aggr pants and a 960 Garothi shoulders from heroic. We got a 985 shoulder but I passed cause I can't wear when Lego shoulders Sims better.

shrewd oriole
#

tbh 985 garothi shoulders would make you wear bracers boots forever

dire spoke
#

I have them 950

shrewd oriole
#

which is cancer for logs

#

cuz shoulders bracers is bis log set up

shut willow
#

I simmed it the shoulders for me was like 10k dps loss

shrewd oriole
#

crazy lol

steep obsidian
#

hard to beat top shoulder parses with good bomb rng

shut willow
#

Well I have 1 mass

shrewd oriole
#

exactly

steep obsidian
#

shoulder bombs are pretty huge :\

shut willow
#

If I had 3 it was 140k increase

onyx rock
#

Want to be in the post sim link club

dire spoke
#

I also tried around with bracer+boots, even subterfuge ... all loss

shut willow
#

I like bracers shoulders

#

My mastery is bad tho

#

I can't get above 195% with food and shit at 968 equipped

dire spoke
#

nice rings smarty

#

giev plx

shrewd oriole
#

damn your mastery weight is so much higher than mine

shut willow
#

I want to fold and go back to exaang

shrewd oriole
#

ahah

shut willow
#

Been struggling for months trying to get to 200% without massive DPS loss. Just too many high ilvl pieces with bad stats. The 5 weeks of verse haste gloves 970 from the cache doesn't help eitber

dire spoke
#

I had 208% when I switched from sub to sin

#

now I'm optimizing on crit and loose mastery constantly lol

shut willow
#

I think my mastery is like 50 points of DPS per and crit is like 46.

vapid moth
#

Question: Do rogues die?

shrewd oriole
#

if ur bad

shut willow
#

All rogues go to heaven

solemn vapor
#

Answer: if you dont dodge shit, yes

shut willow
#

Rogue survivability is high for sure

vapid moth
#

Cool. My healer needs confirmation

shut willow
#

Cheat death is amazeballs

solemn vapor
#

Cheat death doesnt make you imortal

steep obsidian
#

you get 1 get out of free card

solemn vapor
#

Lmao

#

Is just to wake u up

steep obsidian
#

it was op on a 2 min cd now its just pretty good

#

at 6 mins

vapid moth
#

I don't even use cheat death

#

With leech I'm kept at full hp

shrewd oriole
#

What the

shut willow
#

No but it stops you from dying when you make a mistake every once in a while so you look like a boss on total uptime on fights when learning

steep obsidian
#

cheat death is to save you from the 1 shot fuckups

#

obv

vapid moth
#

There's no such think

#

Thing

fervent beacon
#

to certain degree

shrewd oriole
#

Rogue defensive are batshit broken

vapid moth
#

^^

fervent beacon
#

CD can prevent your death to certain damage done to you

steep obsidian
#

and not everything that 1 shots you is your fault it can be someone else screwing up

shrewd oriole
#

Feint is probably the most broken one of them all

solemn vapor
#

We are frail sir

fervent beacon
#

so its like 100m damage, you're just going to fucking die

solemn vapor
#

😭

vapid moth
#

There are no 100mill hits

shrewd oriole
#

So glad they are nerfig feint

#

If you’re not doing content that can one shot you’re doing easy content

steep obsidian
#

well yeah cheat death has been capped at double your health since like late cata or early mop

shrewd oriole
#

Lmao

vapid moth
#

If damage is high then either cloak evasion or feint will work

shut willow
#

Shod just be passive 95% aoe reduction

#

Seems balanced

solemn vapor
#

πŸ€”

shut willow
#

No energy cost just passive

#

Oh and give us some plate armor too

shrewd oriole
#

Last expansion

#

Feint Costed no energy

#

LOL

shut willow
#

I gave you my heart?

shrewd oriole
#

Well

#

It costed BASICALLY no energy

shut willow
#

And the very next day you gave it away?

steep obsidian
#

the no energy feint used to be a glyph slot

#

eons ago

shut willow
#

No cast time poison

shrewd oriole
#

Back in cata

shut willow
#

Bring it back

dire spoke
#

the moment when you need to feint, but you can't because soulcapa procc

shrewd oriole
#

Christ

#

Rogue is so broken lol

solemn vapor
#

😏

shut willow
#

I just want some better relics

#

My votw count is creeping close to 200

#

And I've got 1 940

shrewd oriole
#

I hope they buff shaman’s defensivas

#

Shamans so shit

#

I don’t get how a melee class can have one defensovr

steep obsidian
#

i dont have a problem with shadow ones iron ones suck coz the monks always keep em :\

shrewd oriole
#

And then shit like mage can have 5

#

Barrier double block blink invis

shut willow
#

I kinda want to try a caster next expac

solemn vapor
#

I fixed my status. 30% crit 196%mast sounds about right? Which way should i go now? More crit or mast?

fervent beacon
#

mast

solemn vapor
#

Got it, sir

shut willow
#

But I'm scared after 14 years as tank/melee I will sucketh the wang

onyx rock
#

This tier will go on for month until bfa... no need to rush for relics... pretty much pointless

shut willow
#

Well, when your THE big dock single target in the whole guild, you wanna stay that way

#

I'm usually about 100k higher than the next dps on garothi

onyx rock
#

I am or better saying i was until today

#

They kicked me over night

shrewd oriole
#

I play with probably the best monk in Europe

#

So I’m never too st dps lul

onyx rock
#

Who is this monk ?

shrewd oriole
#

Insanely good, really broken English

#

Cool guy

#

Kamikaza

shut willow
#

You need the hanz and Franz mythic + farming work out to pump you up

shrewd oriole
#

Has a weird accent on a letter can’t recall which

dire spoke
#

If you're top dps in antorus your guild is shit πŸ€” right?

shrewd oriole
#

Depends on the figut

#

And on your poison bombs

shut willow
#

I'm not top on aoe fights

onyx rock
#

@dire spoke for sure when on Eonar

dire spoke
#

well I can't top 5 on vari, tbh I don't even know why

shut willow
#

But every week on garothi someone's got a hard-on they are going to beat me and they always end up in the dumpster.

shrewd oriole
#

Monk beats rogue every right tho

shut willow
#

Probably

#

We have no monk and no dh

#

Both are really good st

shrewd oriole
#

You can beat DH

#

And enh

#

Well enh depends

dire spoke
#

on vari we have spriest, frost dk and fire mages going insane

shut willow
#

Eng is really high

shrewd oriole
#

But dh 100% beatable

shut willow
#

We don't have that either

dire spoke
#

I'm glad that I'm even on logs

shut willow
#

We have 3 boomies, 2 sp, several other rogues ranging from one other decent one, to a couple who don't go to mythic ever that single digits %tile every fight

prime void
#

2 boomies

#

Wellfare

shut willow
#

We don't do hardcore

#

We only raid 2 nights for 3 hours

dire spoke
#

@shrewd oriole btw your yt reminded me of this I found recently

shrewd oriole
#

Ahaha

#

Boomie this tier lul

shut willow
#

They all do like 3 million on athc and eonar mythic so does the fire mage

prime void
#

So useless fights πŸ‘

shut willow
#

Lol, as a rogue 13.5/10 can confirm

dire spoke
#

bois today is the day

#

I finally don't need to sit on mobile internet anymore

#

hope I don't have to call the tech or something

sacred monolith
#

i'm looking through the assassination rogue guide, but it doesn't mention an opener for nightstalker without shoulders

#

it only mentions shoulders, subterfuge without shoulders, and exsang

fervent beacon
#

Reroll

sudden trench
#

need them shoulders

sacred monolith
#

😦

fiery nest
#

not having shoulders in 2018 πŸ˜‚

vapid moth
#

Lol

#

Shoulders make a real difference man. There is no true opener without them

dire spoke
#

test

#

GachiGasm bye bye wifi

lone junco
#

oh man.

dire spoke
#

is this new meta?

#

πŸ‘€ oh it's gone

lone junco
#

bonkers vanish.

civic palm
#

πŸ‘‹

dire spoke
#

πŸ‘‹ mize

civic palm
#

πŸ’­'s and πŸ™ers for all the bad parses.

#

mmm, not meme-y enough.

dire spoke
coral karma
#

How far behind on charts is Bleed build comapred to Poison, cause I'm having more fun on Bleed build but don't want to lose to much dps for picking it

civic palm
#

It's not so far that it matters.

coral karma
#

ok, ty

civic palm
#

Now get your beary hand outta heeeeeeeere!! ❀

coral karma
#

lol

safe tiger
#

what a fun m+ week to push

#

right guys? πŸ˜‚

marble hemlock
#

yeah...

#

thankfully the ret in our grp basically solos all explosives

onyx falcon
#

its wut pallies do this week

#

just win if you have a pally

dire spoke
#

whew

#

ToS M tonight

#

get them 2p

dire remnant
#

is there a resource i can use to look up someone who i ran a mythic with within the last couple weeks?
there was this gnome hunter named "Mitts" or something with the sickest mog i've ever seen and im tryan find him

gilded lark
dire remnant
#

found it finally

#

thx dog

gilded lark
tame cobalt
#

is the leggo back any good for aoe?

supple hearth
#

for sub it is

tame cobalt
#

and for assa? i dont have boots not ravenholdt or wrists

safe matrix
#

for sub its 😩 πŸ’¦ πŸ’¦

supple hearth
#

for assassination youre better off just focusing on your ST

safe matrix
#

Assassination AoE is pretty much hope for PB procs

supple hearth
#

multi dot and PB it up

dire spoke
#

giggle πŸ‘‹

supple hearth
#

hi ^^

dire spoke
#

ugh I'm to stupid to find good OBS settings

onyx falcon
#

toss out 1-3 rups, FoK and πŸ™

lone junco
#

someone live logged this lfr 😐

small plinth
#

Im gonna ask a noobish question.. how can you make PB proc more often

lone junco
#

its funny how much worse you can do in lfr. when tanks are pulling dogs all over full sprint

supple hearth
#

use more finishers

#

@small plinth

small plinth
#

ty

lone junco
#

@small plinth finish 4/5cp, and pray more.

vapid moth
#

What boss noobe

lone junco
#

dogs.

small plinth
#

seems that its dropping more with other rogues.. does mastery have something to do with increase of proc?

vapid moth
#

The other rogue had bad dps

lone junco
#

so did i. thats like almost 300k under my normal.

supple hearth
#

its RNG

#

dont think about it too much lol

#

just pump

small plinth
#

fannnnnnnnfuckingtastic.. lol. tyvm guys

zealous dew
#

morning folks

#

need to do HC for chance of TF

#

can't do it

strange python
#

How would you guys rank insignia of the grand design with shoulders vs empty crown and shoulders?

zealous dew
vapid moth
#

I installed DBM today to tank on the DH. Is there any way to edit where all the fucking bars appear on the screen?

prime void
#

did you even look at the settings

#

or did you come here without even looking

#

cuz that shit is pretty blatant.

lone junco
#

@zealous dew ran some M+ as sub. and remembered immediately why i dont like it.

#

the burst dps gibbed some shit, and bolstered something to be like 20ft tall.

vapid moth
#

I did

#

I tend to miss blatant shit cause stuff I need tends to be hidden. You wouldn't believe how long it took me to find the S&L additional settings

lone junco
#

burst was nice, and it does ok with the explosive orbs. but bolstering and bursting are just nuts.

zealous dew
#

tbh rogue sucks on orbs

#

badly

#

i like em as warlock, soul flame + shard πŸ˜ƒ

#

for su b you need a tank always pulling 6 mobs

#

at least

#

even on bosses

lone junco
#

zzz

zealous dew
#

watch drjay stream, have a look when he plays with ashine

#

warlock is slut and plays his game, mage and rogue need specific pulls

#

pull this, pull that into this

#

blabla

#

best one is BRH before 2nd boss

#

they even waste 1min to make him spellsteal 10 times arcanist debuff

#

steal eat stea eat

#

just to burst packs

#

sounds fun for others

gilded lark
#

sounds like an insane waste of time

zealous dew
#

yeah but doing that they don't MC the cat and guess what

#

splat after 2s

#

or when bop runs out

warm geode
#

someone know how to put, blood of the old god (ulduar trinket) forhigh ilvl?

vapid moth
#

What?

#

Oh you mean find the high ilvl version of it. Ulduar Time walking. Where have you been man it's only been here since reset

safe tiger
#

ashine plays sin or sub for m+?

#

@zealous dew

zealous dew
#

sub

dire spoke
#

I wonder

#

if weak is actively clipping 4p

#

looks like it in his argus vod

warm parcel
#

I play completely around the tier

dire spoke
#

Is this even possible at 35% (base+trinket) crit non-anti?

#

I mean, I have to try but it seems like CP will cuck me

viscid helm
#

you can play around the tier no matter what gear you have

warm parcel
#

Yea doesnt mean youll get 100% uptime

dire spoke
#

it just looks super fluid on your rogue, that's why I'm sceptic lol

warm parcel
#

just get 80% muti crit

viscid helm
#

i mean you could play Alacrity

dire spoke
#

seems like I need to pool more to do a clean cycle

zealous dew
#

or you could jus tunnel the boss

dire spoke
#

I need to make a WA first

midnight latch
#

πŸ‘€

zealous dew
#

to tunnel bosses?

#

be like a SP

dire spoke
#

I'm trying to improve here, shush

#

peepocomfy also it's early, shush

zealous dew
#

:=

dire spoke
#

hmmm

#

struggling to see what I'm doing wrong

#

but I'll figure it out I hope

gilded lark
safe matrix
#

I believe in u champ

#

u can do it

dire spoke
#

rupture cucks me mostly even outside of KB

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I drop all 3 modifiers for like 3-4s because I need to pool after refreshing rup

zealous dew
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moar crit!

dire spoke
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yeah

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kinda

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clipping and refreshing get super tight if I end up with 2 or sometimes 3CP, and then I get energy starved

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anti could help with reserve CP

zealous dew
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i f0k πŸ˜ƒ

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7/7 pk ftw

dire spoke
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I'm bound to 3MAss

zealous dew
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wai

dire spoke
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πŸ™ƒ and tf set-gloves

zealous dew
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you play mantle ?

dire spoke
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yeah