assassination

[keen inlet]

Tom I get your perspective but I think you're not seeing anybody else's.

[shrewd oriole]

I get yours

I just don’t get how what you suggested

Would lead to anything other than people pulling big

Skipping annoying mobs

[keen inlet]

Annoying mobs should be bonus.

That's my point, really

[lone junco]

nah. I like kill count.

[keen inlet]

you remove timer, put "points"in other places

etc etc etc

[lone junco]

but timer benefits specific cheese.

[keen inlet]

they could absolutely do it with human judges for the M+ invitation

[lone junco]

not just completion.

[shrewd oriole]

I feel

[dense quest]

maybe for bonus mobs they give you + times

[keen inlet]

FEEL WARNING

[shrewd oriole]

I think cheese is part of competition

[keen inlet]

🔨

[shrewd oriole]

I like cheese

Maybe I’m too used to stuff like arpgs

[keen inlet]

I love arpgs

but wow

isn't an arpg

at all

and never will be.

[shrewd oriole]

I know

[lone junco]

Warlock portal into a fucking tree into slowfall mass cloak?

nah.

[shrewd oriole]

M+ is very arpg like tho

No cloak there noobe

[lone junco]

good design. bros

[keen inlet]

Eh. it gets closer but...eh

[shrewd oriole]

Guy uses invis but didn’t need to

[lone junco]

Swap blaster was infuriating.

fuck that.

"skill"

good job

[shrewd oriole]

Mythic plus is basically the system gw2 had with fractals

Which is basically rifts and maps

People enjoy quick endless content that you can do with a small group of friends

[lone junco]

that shit makes me fucking livid

[shrewd oriole]

I get what you mean with the point system and that could work

Reward harder mobs with more points

I think that wouldn’t be mor interesting to watch tho idk

People would just

Clear everything

[lone junco]

thats fine. but - speed. i dont care how you do it.

complete? y/n

[shrewd oriole]

Clearing everything is boring to watch

[keen inlet]

I'm okay with speed being part of a weighted rubric

[shrewd oriole]

Fair enough

[keen inlet]

shouldn't be the whole score tho

[shrewd oriole]

You just want other rubric I get it

[keen inlet]

which it is.

[shrewd oriole]

I think affixes should be part of the rubric

[lone junco]

reward people for taking moonking and warlocks. gg

grats.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean noobe

Those are the best aoe classes, they are always gonna be best at dungeons

even if soeed wasn’t the focus

[lone junco]

not if there are pulls of 3 that wreck your tank?

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah outdps a lock on 3 targets lol

[lone junco]

w/e.

defender of cheese

right.

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha

You should be renamed to

[lone junco]

we bring the classes we have. it is wha it is

fucking grump?

[shrewd oriole]

Salty that assa sucks at dungeons o#

[lone junco]

nah.

[shrewd oriole]

:p

[lone junco]

idgaf about sin vs sub vs. that lock portal float makes me fucking livid.

good one guys.

[keen inlet]

Noobe [The Grumble]

[lone junco]

I hate D3 race keys as well.

[shrewd oriole]

I feel

Oh well

[lone junco]

let me play a defensive spec for gods sake

[shrewd oriole]

Glad we are able to enjoy different things

[lone junco]

seriously. what happend to playing safe?

nah.

[shrewd oriole]

If you dislike speed a rpgs are not a game for you lol

[exotic glen]

alright

[lone junco]

fuck that. whip your dicks out and SEED EVERYTHING

[shrewd oriole]

Arpgs are 100% about speed and efficiency

[exotic glen]

which one of you n00bz posted this https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20760827790

was it you tom

[lone junco]

wtf is Arpgs

[shrewd oriole]

Diablo like games

Action role playing games

[lone junco]

what?

[shrewd oriole]

Diablo, titanquest

[lone junco]

thre was never ever a speed component to diablo

[shrewd oriole]

Path of exile

[lone junco]

prior to rift races

[shrewd oriole]

There is lol

Diablo 2

Had people speed running it

[lone junco]

and?

[shrewd oriole]

What do you mean and

[lone junco]

You can race all you want. Tourneys can be time based.

but locking me out of high keys due to arbitrary time limits is bullshit

limit me by repair money, and get the fuck out of my way

[dense quest]

I think its just a factor of people wanting their keys completed

[shrewd oriole]

Agree to disagree I guess

[lone junco]

we have completed every single key ive started

i dont gaf if its 4hrs later

[dense quest]

they set the limit or raiting of certain limit so that they want theirs done and completed, they dont care if you are new or old or have good dps

cuz even if its high io it doesnt necessary mean they can dps or know the mechanics

[lone junco]

Complete? +1

and for the record, if some prot pally solos a 22 in 3 days. he sure as shit deserves a +1 more than you fucks.

[dense quest]

just think of it as WL do you trust a 0 parses or some one with 100 parses

[keen inlet]

well. In theory, beating the dungeon/timer = knowing your class

that theory breaks down faster than free market capitalism

[shrewd oriole]

If you’re a bad player you won’t get very far in m+

[lone junco]

given a time limit...

[shrewd oriole]

Exactly

[lone junco]

repair gold is unlimited

[keen inlet]

if your team isn't* bad you might heh

[dense quest]

you trust logs dont you?

[shrewd oriole]

Meh

[keen inlet]

see also: buying clears

[shrewd oriole]

If youre getting carried you’ll get replaced

[dense quest]

why do you trust logs and not like it when ppl dont invite you over rating

[lone junco]

buying AoTC so you can get in aotc

nice.

[shrewd oriole]

I mean if you’re buying clears you’re not doing high keys either

You’re getting boosted but you’re not doing them regularly

[dense quest]

you can buy high keys too no?

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but

Even if buy a shit load of score

[lone junco]

dont worry. there are very few people in "high keys" that arent carried by Mythic raid gear.

[shrewd oriole]

You’ll do keys with randoms and get kicked cuz you’re shit

Define high keys

[lone junco]

whatever you do. held up by mythic tank or healer

its fine.

different scale

[shrewd oriole]

But that’s the basic of mmos, more gear makes the content essier

[urban storm]

jfc this phrase gave me cancer " that arent carried by Mythic raid gear"

[shrewd oriole]

Do you want stat scaling like in pvp lmao?

[urban storm]

so we're supposed to do things without using the tools available to us?

[lone junco]

@urban storm cancer is cancer you stupid fuck

words are not cancer

[shrewd oriole]

I think you’re a bit tilted noobe

[lone junco]

very

[urban storm]

that line may be the stupidest thing ive ever read

[foggy beacon]

my my sin channel is spicy atm 👀

mama mia

[upbeat ivy]

Guys i have a question , void elf it good in assasination ?

[urban storm]

omg these people doing high level dungeons, are crutching on the fact that they have HIGH LEVEL GEAR!

THE HORROR

[shrewd oriole]

@upbeat ivy no

[upbeat ivy]

Human is better right

[shrewd oriole]

Yes

[urban storm]

velf passive averages to 1% increase in dmg

[dense quest]

herodamage has all the sims for race too if you want to check

[urban storm]

could end up being slightly higher due to it lining up with procs (since most things activate on pull typically)

[shrewd oriole]

Top is hunan

4th is velf

About 11k

Different

[lone junco]

if I wanted to watch a stream to see "better players" they sure as fuck better be doing something better. not just cheesing zones.

[urban storm]

if theyre doing something other people arent in order to complete things, doesn't that make them better?

within the rules of course

[dense quest]

what if they only are better on somedays

call it better based on rng days

[lone junco]

nah. I give zero high fives for cheese

[urban storm]

the system incentivizes cheese though

[lone junco]

mine doesnt

kill the shit or dont.

[urban storm]

and its not even really cheese, its literally a competition

[dense quest]

what about clean kills or barely kills

[lone junco]

lock portal into a fucking tree?

nah. get the fuck out of here.

[urban storm]

like, if theyre abusing bugs then sure, thats cheese

[shrewd oriole]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TangentialGloriousCocoaYee

[urban storm]

but those things usually get fixed

[shrewd oriole]

He’s referring to that

It’s not a bug

[dense quest]

iron man challenge ilvl 900 doing highest key possible?

[lone junco]

im ok with shroud and pots.,

invis. w/e. I dont do that shit cause we wipe once a run

[shrewd oriole]

Just a clever use of portal and the environment

[foggy beacon]

that's not a cheese lol

[urban storm]

i mean

they still have to clear trash

[shrewd oriole]

They get to clear essier trash

Skip entrance kill pirates crabs for days pretty much

But yeah the line between cleverness and exploiting is blurry

[lone junco]

nah. it is incentivized by time.

it is not skill.

[shrewd oriole]

Creativity is a skill

[lone junco]

completion =+1 and i dont give a fuck what you do

[shrewd oriole]

I don’t think clearing a dungeon in 4 hours is skill

[lone junco]

let me suck and die at my cap

[shrewd oriole]

Just bashing your head against a wall

No critical thinking

[lone junco]

that is literally what this game is

time

spend time. get loot.

[shrewd oriole]

This game tons of creativity and problem solving skills

[lone junco]

not. stack with classes from random pug list. cause our enh sucks at timer games.

[gaunt moat]

Can i spend loot to get time though?

[shrewd oriole]

At least raiding M / m+ does

I mean

[foggy beacon]

I'm sure m+ was created without a time limit 🤔

[vestal wren]

@gaunt moat yes you can exchange loot with gametime (gold -> gametime)

[shrewd oriole]

Outgearing and brute forcing fights isn’t skillful

[lone junco]

so

[shrewd oriole]

But isn’t that what your guild does noobe

[lone junco]

ofc

you say that as an insult. it literally our progression curve for the last 12 years.

[shrewd oriole]

No

[lone junco]

get gear, kill harder things.

[shrewd oriole]

I didn’t mean it an insult

[gaunt moat]

Thanks for sandbagging me fuu

[shrewd oriole]

I meant that

[lone junco]

we dont have a DH tank. or pally healer or Warlock.

grats.

no mass grip trash seeds.

[shrewd oriole]

Outgearing things and just bashing your head against the wall without thinking is the truly unskilled thing

[lone junco]

we do well enough. AoTC by the end of tier.

[shrewd oriole]

Dunno I fail to see how 4 hours in a key to clear it is more skillful than using problem solving skills

But

Agree to disagree

[lone junco]

let me pull a fucking warlock out of my ass

[uncut shuttle]

guys, I am trying to learn basics. is toxic blade does more total damage but exsang has better burst? which one is good overall?

[lone junco]

or a mass grip

[shrewd oriole]

Group finder

[foggy beacon]

jesus lol

[shrewd oriole]

But honestly noobe

[lone junco]

wut

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve done 20’s with shadow priests

Comp is only important at really high keys

[old sphinx]

defender of cheese what'd i miss ?

[shrewd oriole]

As long as you’re good

https://clips.twitch.tv/TangentialGloriousCocoaYee this

[foggy beacon]

do you even know that extremely sub par comps have done high keys?

[lone junco]

As long as you’r e good ilvl is high enough

got it

[shrewd oriole]

Lmao

[foggy beacon]

LOL

[shrewd oriole]

Sounds like you just

Play with shitters noobe

[lone junco]

prob

[shrewd oriole]

And try to excuse it on their class choices or their lack of gear

At the end of the day

[lone junco]

sure.

[shrewd oriole]

You’ve just gotta admit it to yourself

The people I play with are bad

[lone junco]

no brez. no cleave. no mass grip.

we bad.

but.

would grind our faces of until the fucking instance was over.

[shrewd oriole]

You don’t need brezzes or cleave or grip to do 20’s

[lone junco]

it is what it is.

[foggy beacon]

explain how bears, spriest, disc priests, frost mages do 24+ keys? gear alone?

[shrewd oriole]

I have several 20’s in time as assa with a shadow priest and a shaman enh

Probably the three shittiest dpsers

None of my alts has mythic grar

Gear

Yet most of them do 20’s

[lone junco]

the tank in your groups does?

or the healer or the other dps

[shrewd oriole]

No

These are alt keys I’m talking about

Heroic geared, whatever comps

Triple melee bear disc

You name it

[lone junco]

we are too bad for the timer.

got it?

[keen inlet]

i mean

Noobe does play with a guy

[lone junco]

but will fucking grind 2hrs over timer to finish it

[keen inlet]

whose screen is wall-mounted on a fireplace mantle

[shrewd oriole]

Lmao

[keen inlet]

like 6 feet away from desk/keyboard

[lone junco]

very true

[keen inlet]

idk how he does it

like

[solid field]

he's on the couch

[keen inlet]

if you put that dude on a real pc

[lone junco]

tv is like 20 feet away

[solid field]

remember

[keen inlet]

with a screen right there

[foggy beacon]

well there you go, stop saying you need a fucking BDK or warlock to do well

[shrewd oriole]

If I play with my cousin

[keen inlet]

he might

actually be a god

[shrewd oriole]

I struggle

To do 15’s in time

On my rogue

[lone junco]

thank you.

[shrewd oriole]

He’s like 920 and is garbage

But

[uncut shuttle]

guys, I cant find in rescources, pin and guide. is there any good wa for posion track?

[shrewd oriole]

Notter has some on the guide

But I don’t blame it on our como

Comp*

Or even his gesr

Gear*

He’s just trash and I live with it

[foggy beacon]

I remember doing a +10 when people were something like 900 and my bear was 835 or something

[shrewd oriole]

Doesn’t mean I won’t help him do his weekly but I won’t ilude myself thinking with some gear and a right clsss my cousin would be mdi material

[lone junco]

yeah. our guys fucking suck and die all the time.

the only penalty is time.

and its bullshit.

[vapid moth]

What do you guys think of an affix where every 25 seconds all enemies become immune to damage for 5 seconds.

[foggy beacon]

sounds like you need another guild

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

That’s just a player skill issue lmao what can I day

Say*

[lone junco]

@vapid moth if they want to fix cleave, just have them enrage in proximity.

+10% per mob in 5yrds

[south coyote]

im spam buying relinquished gear, should i go for wrists or shoulders first?

[vapid moth]

thats another good one

[shrewd oriole]

I’d like a keystone that gives you % dps increase at full life

[uncut shuttle]

without shoulder lego, prefer to play with subterfuge? guide has no opener with nightstalker without shoulder

[shrewd oriole]

But a % dps decrease if not

[vapid moth]

@simple badger they have a form of that

[foggy beacon]

Blight is the opposite

[shrewd oriole]

The negative % scaling the lower you are

I know but I dislike blight

Blight encourages you taking damage

This one would encourage you to play properly

[vapid moth]

yeah

[solid field]

Shoulders changes your playstyle, wrists are money.. Pick which ever one you want.

[lone junco]

blight is going to have a disc bubbling you and floating 50%

[turbid harbor]

Just get monks with prydaz and win then

[shrewd oriole]

This is bfa

[lone junco]

100% is fine by me

[shrewd oriole]

Who knows if monks are any good

[foggy beacon]

well kinda, it encourages incoming dmg knowledge

[shrewd oriole]

Monks has been trash most of its lifespan

[solid field]

i'm thinking about playing lock in bfa...

[turbid harbor]

Well in bfa we also don’t have prydaz

[shrewd oriole]

Solid choicr

[turbid harbor]

So there’s another problem xd

[shrewd oriole]

Rogue hunter lock mage warrior

Always safe dps choices

[vapid moth]

thats the issue ive been hearing with it

but yeah what about the timing one. itd be part of the fortified and tyrranical rotation

[shrewd oriole]

As long as you are willing to play all 3 specs

I mean

It can’t work on bosses

[vapid moth]

yes it would

[shrewd oriole]

Otherwise you can get some really shit timings

Nah shit design if it does

There’s a reason sanguine doesn’t work on bosses

[turbid harbor]

Immune on evocation btw

[vapid moth]

but the timing is player focuses. you know in advance when the boss is immune

[shrewd oriole]

Exactly

[lone junco]

you cant expect immunt to slow down cleave.

[shrewd oriole]

That’s the dumbest argument cuz you can’t delay the immunity

[lone junco]

thorns.

gimme thorns

[crystal fox]

wooh just got a 91 on garothi hc for my ilvl

[lone junco]

like Cenarius EN

[keen inlet]

Don't say ilvl parse around here Robs

[shrewd oriole]

Thornes wold be a good affix

[keen inlet]

you'll anger the elites

[lone junco]

@crystal fox yay

[turbid harbor]

You could know how long the immunity takes from when you pull

[keen inlet]

we all know ilvl % doesn't matter /s

[shrewd oriole]

Ilvl parses are for people who can’t parse Kspps

[lone junco]

gib a mother fucking lock.

splat

[shrewd oriole]

But thing is noobe

[vapid moth]

then whats the issue. you know not to dps the boss if a certain mechanic is coming up. and you know to push him during that safe period

[turbid harbor]

And guarantee no immune during evoc

[shrewd oriole]

That’s the role of bursting noobe

You don’t push evo

You don’t push cathedrals boss

Imagine the adds on the final boss going immune : )

[turbid harbor]

You can easily get past that phase even with all ads alive

[vapid moth]

they are easy to kill though. but yeah i see the point

[turbid harbor]

Idk

It’s a bad idea

But that’s not the argument against it

[shrewd oriole]

True but I still can see too many problems with the mechanics

[vapid moth]

as with any affix though it has its bad moments

[shrewd oriole]

I think evo like mechanics are

Yeah but

You need to be able to play around mechanics

Tell me what affixes don’t have counter play?

[lone junco]

affixes are fine.

[shrewd oriole]

Obv tyra and forti don’t count

Because Tyra does in fact not have very much counter play

[vapid moth]

itd be in the tyra and forti rotation

[shrewd oriole]

But apart from that all the affixes have a clear way to deal with them

[lone junco]

tyrannical is the one i like, you cant cheese that shit.

[shrewd oriole]

A timed immunity phase does not

[lone junco]

I mean I clearly am too dumb to figure out how to skip tyrannical bosses

[shrewd oriole]

There’s tons of ways of cheesing bosses

The easiest one is bring adds into the boss and do stuff like fok evis

Or dot the adds get shard etc

[lone junco]

w/e Im bad. and the timer keeps me from grinding myself to a pulp.

but i would

[shrewd oriole]

The whelps on dragon in dht for example

The crab in eoa the big ugly dude

Pulling that shit as a lock is like a 50% dos increase

[foggy beacon]

which all becomes a higher risk but higher reward

which is cook

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz you can sephuz + dot it for shards

I think those strats are good tho spas don’t take me wrong

[lone junco]

I dont mind that. pulling trash to a boss takes big balls.

[vapid moth]

what if the interval was reworked.

[lone junco]

I love that stuff.

[gilded lark]

I highly recommend pulling some trash to the boss this week

10/10

[vapid moth]

lol broad

[shrewd oriole]

Give it some way to be controlled

[gilded lark]

Would bolster boss again

[lone junco]

skipping intended trash with a fucking rez and shaman floaty walk?

[shrewd oriole]

There’s no

Intended trash

Lol

[gilded lark]

Skipping the big dickhead after 4th boss on fort in vault

[shrewd oriole]

Blizzard specifically designed the dungeons with too much trash so that you have decisions to make

Amen brosd

Broad*

Skipping last pack on dht

[foggy beacon]

^^^^^

[gilded lark]

Yeah fuck that mob man

One shots with the cage

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

[gilded lark]

[shrewd oriole]

Skipping lantern guy on forti maw

PogChamp

[gilded lark]

Have never done that tbh

[shrewd oriole]

Feels good

[gilded lark]

Seems like a hassle

[lone junco]

can you just shroud around him?

[shrewd oriole]

Fuck that guy

You just shroud yeah

When he’s at the puke dude

[gilded lark]

I just bring bdk and pop consumption

[crystal fox]

970 shoulders on first boss, 950 SSF from second,this is going good today

[lone junco]

or do you clear all the way to the right

[gilded lark]

Leech boi

[shrewd oriole]

DistrCt to the right hug left wall

[foggy beacon]

well he sees stealth

[shrewd oriole]

You have space

Trust

[foggy beacon]

you wait in a corner

for him to pass

[vapid moth]

what are the easiest dungeons this week btw. i still gotta try to bring that score up

[gilded lark]

Then the boomkin starfall pulls him through the boat anyway

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t do dungeons this week.

[lone junco]

wut?

[vapid moth]

that is not an option

[gilded lark]

Fuck i hated that bug

[shrewd oriole]

Why not

[foggy beacon]

the fuck is that emote lol

[shrewd oriole]

Do it next week lol

[gilded lark]

Starfall and uhhhh

[vapid moth]

cause ill be sad on tuesday when nothing is in the chest

[gilded lark]

There was one other aoe

[shrewd oriole]

Ah

[vapid moth]

shitty loot better than no loot

[shrewd oriole]

Do one key then for the weekly

Then don’t do anymore

[gilded lark]

That dragged him thru floor

Do an upper 15

[vapid moth]

yeah but what are the easier dungeons. was thinking bout finding a maw

[shrewd oriole]

Maw is fine

[gilded lark]

Just don't do lower kara

[calm grail]

I think one of my favorite pulls in this expansion so far is that the end of BRH you have your healer and tank grab all of the Lancers up until the last boss and bring them back to the second to last boss.

[vapid moth]

alright. maw and upper

[calm grail]

Feels good.

[shrewd oriole]

Upper probs easier than maw

[vapid moth]

my chest gave me lower khara. wanted to kms

[gilded lark]

This is an absolutely aids week for lower

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah

Well could be worst

[gilded lark]

Then again every week is aids for lower

[shrewd oriole]

Could be forti

[calm grail]

I still haven't done a meaningful seat. Ever.

[gilded lark]

Tyr is bad too tho

[calm grail]

No one ever wants to do it.

[shrewd oriole]

For lower? Yeah I get moroes

[gilded lark]

Moroes tyrannical

[vapid moth]

i think one of the first M+ dungeons i did was lower khara on a week like this. kinda explains why i never touched m+ till this season

[shrewd oriole]

But bosses are easy tbh just trap one of them

[lone junco]

glad that is over.

[keen inlet]

seat is dumb

it's just

a dumb dungeon

the end

[shrewd oriole]

Seat is fine now tbh

[lone junco]

that was an unhealthy amount of mad.

[shrewd oriole]

On release sure

[keen inlet]

whether it's 'fine' or not

[vapid moth]

too many ads in seat

[keen inlet]

it's dumb

layout's dumb

[shrewd oriole]

But after the nerfs it’s pretty easy

[keen inlet]

boss mechanics are dumb

story is dumb

[shrewd oriole]

What

The last boss is cool

First boss is cool idk

[keen inlet]

last boss is residentsleepr

[gilded lark]

First boss's health pool

[shrewd oriole]

Third boss is aids

[foggy beacon]

2nd is ebola for melee

[gilded lark]

First boss is like a raid boss

[foggy beacon]

whole dungeon is ebola for melee

[gilded lark]

2nd boss is just fucked

3rd is cancer incarnate

4th is as don said lol

[quick ice]

I don't think I've ever done a seat key...

[foggy beacon]

trash flying from the sky 🙃

[lone junco]

ebola i can accept. obscure reference that is relatively "bad"

[gilded lark]

But that's in my limited experience

[lone junco]

"cancer. " not so much.

[gilded lark]

Highest seat ive done is 8

[quick ice]

Is ebola really obscure anymore?

[foggy beacon]

lucky man

[gilded lark]

Sry noobe is cancer a good thing?

[shrewd oriole]

LUL

Dunno what’s the problem with using cancer as a synonym of bad

Or frustrating

[gilded lark]

I mean cancer is pretty fuckin bad

[shrewd oriole]

Exactly

So is second boss on seat

[gilded lark]

So is aids

[shrewd oriole]

See what I mean

[gilded lark]

Ebola

[shrewd oriole]

Unless you think

Cancer is good

[gilded lark]

Time to find sone obscure disease to use instead

Some*

[shrewd oriole]

Black Plague

Damn dude doing orbs on portal keeper really gave me bubonic plague

Second boss in vault depleted my vitamin C and got my scurvy

[foggy beacon]

leprosy

LOL depleted my vitaminc C

like that one

[quick ice]

Scurvy is a very real concern I'll have you know!

/s

[gilded lark]

Man that 3rd boss in seat sure is malaria

[keen inlet]

I think

it's more

that cancer's pretty common

and fucked a lot of ppl's lives over

I'm not gonna mod it I'll be honest

but I get noobe's perspective

both my parents fought cancer and won

[gilded lark]

And shit bosses are pretty common

[keen inlet]

hah

touche

[gilded lark]

I've lost 2 relatives to it

If you cant meme it, you gonna be depressed about it forever

[foggy beacon]

I get it too but I don't see how you get stuck on it, I have family members who died from it

still use the term

[quick ice]

Fighting depression with memes?

[gilded lark]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[foggy beacon]

memes save lives

[keen inlet]

I feel old

[gilded lark]

[shrewd oriole]

My dad died to od and my mother and my sister fought cancer

[keen inlet]

i remember memes before they were memes

[gilded lark]

You are old

[keen inlet]

I remember when they were image macros

[shrewd oriole]

I still make fucking coke jokes lol

[keen inlet]

I remember when we didn't HAVe a name for them it was just "referential humor"

[gilded lark]

What kind of coke

[foggy beacon]

that's the spirit

[shrewd oriole]

The white one

[gilded lark]

Yay

[shrewd oriole]

It certainly wasn’t Coca-Cola that made him jump off a 8 stories building Lol

[gilded lark]

Well you never know

[turbid harbor]

i remember when people in my school ran around calling them "maymays"

[shrewd oriole]

One hell of a sugar high

[turbid harbor]

when they first became popular

[gilded lark]

Kids gettin all hyped up on diet pepsi and jolly ranchers

[shrewd oriole]

I remember a girl in my 4th grade class

[gilded lark]

Never know what can happen

[shrewd oriole]

Googling “funny images”

[quick ice]

I've never had a Jolly rancher

[gilded lark]

They're okay

[quick ice]

Not sure we have them here?

[gilded lark]

They're getting rarer lol. Plus it was a movie reference

[quick ice]

Obviously I had not seen the movie either

[gilded lark]

Noob

[keen inlet]

I stole that fry emoji

so good

I think next week I'm going nitro

[gilded lark]

[keen inlet]

I have put off paying for something i use hours everyday

for far too long

[shrewd oriole]

Right

5 euros on coffee?

Easy

5 euros on discord? Hello no

[mossy light]

Whats the best relic combos for assassination now days?

[gilded lark]

If you think about it, the more you use it, the cheaper per hour it gets

[shrewd oriole]

Hero damage dot com slash relics

[gilded lark]

Why does his pick look like dons but with serious mental problems

[lone junco]

I didnt expect this to by my best tweet. but it is almost there.

[keen inlet]

holy fuck

it's my long-lost brother

[lone junco]

craftsman dave?

[keen inlet]

Nod

bizzaro-don

[gilded lark]

[keen inlet]

dying

[quick ice]

That's what you look like without the eye patch?

[keen inlet]

that's what bizzaro universe me looks like

[shrewd oriole]

Oh no

[keen inlet]

I am Don, that's Nod

[shrewd oriole]

monkaS

[quick ice]

Nod Jose

[keen inlet]

Looks like you're having fun, Tom

[civic palm]

Didn't bold extremely, who cares?

[keen inlet]

Nod Esoj

[quick ice]

Or is he Nod Esoj?

[gilded lark]

Nod 🅱 ose

[keen inlet]

^

[shrewd oriole]

The usage of bold

Scared me

[keen inlet]

@mossy light check out herodamage.com

[shrewd oriole]

He means serious business

[keen inlet]

relics for sin

on there

[gilded lark]

Charge your phone

[keen inlet]

in all seriousness

that's a well-written post, carefully thought-out

and i wouldn't be mad if my RL did that

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t worry dude I am

[keen inlet]

but then I'm one of those ppl "making smart plays"

[shrewd oriole]

Sure you are Kappa

Nah I’m not mad either

I just think

Morajin ( friend of mine) is gonna get benched

Alongside other people

Which will be funny

Promises drama on Sunday

[quick ice]

Having had a raid leader do one of those very pedantic log reviews before, it's pretty helpful

[keen inlet]

it honestly is

[shrewd oriole]

agreed

[keen inlet]

if people can't handle hearing the shit they do

they don't need a spot

[gilded lark]

I tried doing it and everyone pulled the "casual guild" card

[quick ice]

Except when he decides halfway through he's too tired and gives up 🙃

[keen inlet]

(if you have the luxury of a bench)

[gilded lark]

And i got raged at

[keen inlet]

@gilded lark same thing broad

[civic palm]

When you only get hit by 1 swirly on Argus the RL doesn't mention your errors > _>

[keen inlet]

I got called toxic

[shrewd oriole]

Oh yeah we have like

28 players lol

[gilded lark]

Like if you're doing half your sim dps consistently

Fuck off

[civic palm]

and you are all BM, HOW YOU DO DIS?!

[gilded lark]

Casual or not that's holding up progress

[keen inlet]

and "this isn't my job this is a game"

tbf--great friends with the guy who said it, and he's 20 years older than me

and he's right

but he didn't need to defend the 400k arcane mage

[shrewd oriole]

LOL

[keen inlet]

🙄

[quick ice]

Or "it's my 15$"

[shrewd oriole]

How are you

That bad

[keen inlet]

alliance

rp server

[gilded lark]

600-800k fire mage

[keen inlet]

friends and family guild

[civic palm]

PRESS AM WHEN IT LIGHTS UP

[gilded lark]

Also our raid lead

[civic palm]

SIMPLE

[gilded lark]

Kms

[shrewd oriole]

Ah

See Jose

In that case

You’re the bad one

For not gquitting

[keen inlet]

i've been very open about how casual I am compared to many regulars here

nothing to hide

i'm a chat babysitter and newbie coach

👍

[civic palm]

I am probably gQuitting at the end of this expansion > _>

[shrewd oriole]

I’m happy where I am

[civic palm]

I was.

[shrewd oriole]

Top 200 2 Days a week

[turbid harbor]

I’m very happy with my new guild for this tier

[shrewd oriole]

Chill environment

[gilded lark]

I play casually but i know my shit. I'd mythic raid if i had a consistent work schedule

[civic palm]

But they tried pushing into Mythic this entire expansion but they have no idea what they ar edoi ng.

[shrewd oriole]

Good players, people I like to hangout with

[gilded lark]

But it changes every week so I'm fucked

[turbid harbor]

Killed Argus yesterday and took 2 weeks off raiding for progress

[shrewd oriole]

Nice

[civic palm]

👍

[turbid harbor]

Christmas during prog is very annoying

[shrewd oriole]

True

[civic palm]

120%

[shrewd oriole]

What WR is killing it yday zolbar

Curiosity

[civic palm]

Also, switching mains that you really have not been working on.

_>

during progression.

[turbid harbor]

We got 192

[shrewd oriole]

Ah solid

[gilded lark]

Anyone want a guy who can play any spec in the game at a decent level next xpack

[shrewd oriole]

Eu?

[gilded lark]

Na

[shrewd oriole]

You’re shit

[quick ice]

@civic palm ugh, this pisses me right off

[gilded lark]

Fuck you

[shrewd oriole]

Na players are all bad

LUL

[keen inlet]

tbh

[shrewd oriole]

One day headstart

Using us rankings

Still bad

[gilded lark]

Wasn't my choice to be born in goddamn capitalist central

[keen inlet]

i'll probably just pug with an RH person in bfa

[civic palm]

We don't get the nice socialist policies you do and can only get 2 days off a century.

[shrewd oriole]

World 1000 us 27

[keen inlet]

and then we can all laugh at my casual logs

[gilded lark]

I'm world 11000 but parsint orange

Parsing*

[shrewd oriole]

Parsing orange in normal gratz Kappa

[gilded lark]

Heroic 😠

[keen inlet]

I'm consistently purple*****

***ilvl in reg

[civic palm]

People are all shit. Parsing Orange is Normal.

[shrewd oriole]

Ilvl logs ?

Kappa

[gilded lark]

Overall you dick

[shrewd oriole]

Nice gear lucker

[foggy beacon]

I'm usually parsing well on normal for my ilvl, in BR realms

[shrewd oriole]

No skill

Kappa

[gilded lark]

958

[keen inlet]

at this point I'm not even purple in overall reg/roic

my gear is relative garbage

[shrewd oriole]

Rip

Such is the casual life

[gilded lark]

958 frost 961 blood

[keen inlet]

ilvl high purple overal mid/high blue.

[gilded lark]

Will tank for wow tokens

[shrewd oriole]

You’re dk?

[keen inlet]

941 ilvl btw

[shrewd oriole]

Disgusting

[gilded lark]

I am

[shrewd oriole]

😠

[gilded lark]

But i have 14 110s and play them all decently

[shrewd oriole]

Ripv

[gilded lark]

Parse well on whatever spec i decide to commit to

[onyx rock]

14 ?

[shrewd oriole]

I only have 6

[gilded lark]

Except survival fuck survival

[shrewd oriole]

Monk rogue dh dk hunter lock

[quick ice]

I have 4 and 2 of them never get played because they've been abandoned on another server and faction

[gilded lark]

All classes, and 2 warrs/dks

[shrewd oriole]

Rogue is m geared rest is pretty meh just like 960

[gilded lark]

Levelling another monk rn

[shrewd oriole]

Why two of ant

Any*

[gilded lark]

Fotm

Factions

[shrewd oriole]

Oh

[gilded lark]

Working on horde

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah playing alliance is for plebs

Real men play belf

[gilded lark]

It really is now lol

2nd dk is belf

[shrewd oriole]

Nice

I went NB for a week

[gilded lark]

Bin gear atm though. 924 or smth

It was my boost

[shrewd oriole]

Then I wiped on harbour cuz I said “got next” but I didn’t have next

So I went belf

[gilded lark]

2nd monk is velf tho. Edgy boye

[river pawn]

guys i wanna ask one question i got new relic at second path i got master of shadows and shocklight which one u guys recommend ?

[shrewd oriole]

Nice

[lone junco]

I said “got next” but I didn’t have next

[gilded lark]

Probably just faction change most of my toons come bfa

[shrewd oriole]

Hero damage dot com slash relics

[gilded lark]

Leave the duplicates alli

[lone junco]

Good stuff.

[shrewd oriole]

Nice

[gilded lark]

$250 in faction changes

[shrewd oriole]

I’m probsblt gonna stick to rogue for bfa

[gilded lark]

[shrewd oriole]

Might consider Huber

Hunter*

Or monk

[gilded lark]

Demo looks good

[shrewd oriole]

None of the other melees excite me

[gilded lark]

On alpha

[turbid harbor]

Always rogur

[shrewd oriole]

Agreed played it a bit today

[keen inlet]

lads

[shrewd oriole]

If I stay melee I’m going rogue

[keen inlet]

should I

[onyx rock]

Rogur !

[shrewd oriole]

If I go ranged I’m going hunter

[gilded lark]

As usual I'll level everything and decide main during first raid tier

[turbid harbor]

Rogur btw

[shrewd oriole]

Mm plays REALLY good on alpha

Lile

Like*

REALLY good

[onyx rock]

Rogur ftw

[keen inlet]

1. continue working on spriest (need 20% more haste rip but have leggo belt)
2. work on frost dk
3. work on making brm monk into ww

[gilded lark]

That means it'll never hit live that way

[quick ice]

3

[shrewd oriole]

@keen inlet 3

[gilded lark]

Blood dk don

[foggy beacon]

in order 3 - 2 - 1

[keen inlet]

blood dk is done

[shrewd oriole]

True

[keen inlet]

guardian druid is done

[shrewd oriole]

If it doesn’t hit live I’ll be sad

But

[gilded lark]

Blood is so good

[keen inlet]

tbh I enjoy bear more

[shrewd oriole]

Alpha mm hunter is so much better

[gilded lark]

Nobody enjoys bear

You just enjoy the challenge skin lol

[shrewd oriole]

You enjoy bear what the actual fuck

lol

[keen inlet]

what's nto to enjoy about slamming my 🍆 onto swipe

[shrewd oriole]

Thrash thrash thrash

[keen inlet]

step 1 keybind thrash to everything
step 2 slam 🍆

[shrewd oriole]

Moon fire moon fire moon fire thrash thrash thrash

[gilded lark]

Watching thrash proc off itself 5 consecutive times in m+ is a meme tho

Suddenly big baer dps

[keen inlet]

sometimes when I claw things I claw things

and claw them again

bear btw

engaging gameplay

[gilded lark]

I hate how parsing is for bdk on dogs. My guild isnt good enough to stack them

1m hps

Blue parse

[keen inlet]

yeah

fights like that rip

[lone junco]

like not cleaving Tich bloods.

= green

grats

[gilded lark]

Beat all healers

Parsed like 58

Someone go to work for me

Honestly don most engaging tanks are blood and veng imo

[lone junco]

i need a nap.

[turbid harbor]

I like prot pala

[shrewd notch]

war seems reasonably active

[lone junco]

after like not working for the past 4 hrs. bitching about M+

[turbid harbor]

Big deeps

[gilded lark]

Warr is so bad right now that you have to pay some serious fucking attention to not die

[shrewd notch]

i dunno i find that interesting though

[shrewd oriole]

Warr is garbage

Bdk is so easy lol

[gilded lark]

Mine is like 925 and even in lfr, I'm like sweating bullets

[foggy beacon]

for some reason I can't parse on Imonar, I usually parse well even with my bad guild, but Imonar is wonky as a MF

[shrewd notch]

having to work for it keeps it from being boring

[foggy beacon]

as sub

[shrewd oriole]

Slow bridge

[gilded lark]

650k hps as warr on lfr vari

Because he rapes an entire ignore pain off

In one melee

[shrewd notch]

war's actually particularly good on vari

[foggy beacon]

ye we have slow bridges

[gilded lark]

Maybe mine is just badly geared

[shrewd notch]

b/c absorb shields work on vari

[gilded lark]

Wrist/soul ring legos so rage isn't an issue

[foggy beacon]

I droppped 7.3 average points of my mythic average when I killed Imonar with my guild 🙃

[shrewd notch]

wrist is great

[shrewd oriole]

Slow bridges are terrible

For your dos

Dps*

[grim wolf]

Hey question, maybe someone can answer this for me. for assn are we supposed to keep the envenom buff up as much as we can? just keep rolling teh buff basically?

[shrewd oriole]

A good bridge is sub 15 seconds

[foggy beacon]

our bridges are 20-30 seconds I think, sometimes more

[gilded lark]

Just get across as fast as you can and interrupt the boss

[foggy beacon]

huehuehue

[gilded lark]

Easy parse

[shrewd oriole]

Thats

Pretty much what we do lol

One of our tanks is a monk

He gets bopped and rolls across

[shrewd notch]

our bridges we get anywhere from 15-23 stacks depending on what's going on. is it 1 stack per second?

[shrewd oriole]

Then we all warlock tp

[gilded lark]

Tanking it even on heroic 2 nights ago i actually had to tell me raid to hurry the fuck up

[foggy beacon]

we have a VDH doing the same thing, but people are still slow and retarded

[gilded lark]

It was like

40s

[shrewd oriole]

Then shadow step the boss and I’m there

[gilded lark]

[shrewd oriole]

If we do it right it’s sub 10

[gilded lark]

Like. Am bdk. I'm slow

Shouldn't beat anyone

Was 2nd over

[shrewd oriole]

Thats

Depressinglol

[gilded lark]

It was

[foggy beacon]

I like so bad after that boss 😢

[gilded lark]

Gonna cheese a parse next week for blood

[uncut shuttle]

guys, how raidbots work on talent ring sims? is it choose vigor when not using it or simming with stratagem?

[gilded lark]

4 stacks instead of 2 on 2nd bridge

Anyway

Bbl

@uncut shuttle if you select the talent ring in raidbots, in its own rectangle it should have a selection of which 2nd talent you want to take

[uncut shuttle]

Thanks

[drowsy island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/379150760526479360/414154395396341774/combo.png what do i do on high hall keys this week ?

[shrewd oriole]

Feint

Cloak

Crimson vial

Cheat death

[hoary copper]

tank the floor?

[drowsy island]

is crying an option

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

Did you feint?

[grim wolf]

probably elusiveness and make sure u play on point

and pre hit feint

[drowsy island]

yea with prydaz lol

[drifting cloud]

if its the bolt when she goes back from light to storm

[shrewd oriole]

What level is that lol

[drowsy island]

24

😦

[drifting cloud]

you have to cloak / cheat death

or vanish

[shrewd oriole]

Don’t do 24 hov this week

Done

[drifting cloud]

literally cant do anything else

[drowsy island]

but i need 4k

[shrewd oriole]

Not a very smart idea

Just wait for an easy key

Hyrja is so hard this week lol

[drifting cloud]

you dont need 24s for 4k

[shrewd oriole]

Full 22’s gets you 4K

[drowsy island]

idk what im doing i just started pushign 4 weeks ago when i got my shulders

[shrewd oriole]

Are you playing

Assa

[drowsy island]

yea i quit sub my hand was hurting after raid nights

[old sphinx]

[shrewd oriole]

Sad face pushing as assa

[drowsy island]

wait i should push as sub?

RIP

[keen inlet]

I think

I'm gonna do ww monk

because

mine is named Flyingdragon

aka

Bruce lee

and that trumps everything

[foggy beacon]

Avoidance set @drowsy island

[shrewd oriole]

Of course

Most every high score rogue is sub

Better prio damage and more consistency

[hoary copper]

I need to pick up WW again, I just felt bored by it. Not that sin is much better but idk

I kind of want to try destruction again too

[shrewd oriole]

Not affliction . Com

[hoary copper]

I started legion as ww then went afflic, I wasnt a fan. Destruction looks a bit more interesting

[shrewd oriole]

Dunno

Affli on aoe is very fun

[dense quest]

isnt destro more rng?

[shrewd oriole]

And it actually does nice damage

Yeah affli is quite consistent

On aoe

[dense quest]

orange portal = orange parses?

[strange python]

do you think sin is easier to play than sub?

[vapid moth]

lol what

anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong

[lethal heart]

it's different

but it's too subjective to decide

[lone junco]

sin is easier. and less punishing for mistakes.

[lethal heart]

depends what criteria you put as 'difficult' 'easy'

[lone junco]

just graph the % performances

sin almost always plays better at the 10 20 30 40 50% than sub

for st bosses.

[lethal heart]

easier to follow i suppose, super baseline just keep up dots

and you're gucci

[lone junco]

shitty players are better at sin.

[hoary copper]

That's why I do well at sin!

[lone junco]

follow that graph from 10 to 99% and in NH sin was top of all dps classes

[lethal heart]

nh lul

[lone junco]

wasnt max. but def number1 for 10% all the way up to like 90%

[gilded lark]

@keen inlet my latest is "fotmooker"

[crystal fox]

92% on kingaroth hc wooh

[dense quest]

what does that say about afflock

[lone junco]

shoulder bombs?

lock is ranged and not rogue