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lone junco
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1050 2gb

keen inlet
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Nice.

lone junco
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that TI 4gb was like another 100$

keen inlet
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Yeah not worth. Better to buy 1060 6gb if price ever comes back down to 250

lone junco
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i dont know shit man. and I fucking hate computers now.

keen inlet
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But 1050 looks solid!

lone junco
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good.

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ill get the UPS power and pray this lasts through BFA

keen inlet
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Yeah. Honestly psu aren't expensive

lone junco
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@spark geyser i like to "get into the weeds" aka the very specific details

keen inlet
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I'm convinced you've got bad regulators in your psu

calm grail
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Supposedly with DX12 support the game will shift a little bit to the GPU from the CPU.

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Errr

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Yeah

spark geyser
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I really like that. It's fun territory to explore.

calm grail
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He gets into the weeds but is stuck on LFR cove

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Coven*

lone junco
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@spark geyser im an engineer at work.

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we are on argus now

calm grail
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:p

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I think he is easier than the prior two bosses

lone junco
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I did get vote kicked from LFR coven for pulling after like 5 mins of them talking.

calm grail
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You got aggramar and coven down you're good to go.

lone junco
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ye. first pull on argus we got like 60%

calm grail
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I think my group had more pulls on coven than the last two combined

lone junco
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that will def be the case.

keen inlet
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Why does lfr talk so much

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People don't read

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Just pull

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Sally

calm grail
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Aggramar just needed people who wouldn't break CC and a DK that wasn't ♿

keen inlet
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Seriously*

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Like... People don't read your lengthy explanations of the fight

calm grail
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I can't bring myself to do LFR anyhow.

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I pug heroic on Tuesdays and the guild time is spent on Mythic.

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I thought it's bearable if you join one of those overly qualified groups.

lone junco
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ULD stat squash was funny

calm grail
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I hate the squishes.

lone junco
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our warrior had like 15% mastery

calm grail
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I hope we don't feel like ass with the 8.0 patch

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Butttt I wonder what stupid amounts of Mastery how cool the new passive will be

lone junco
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at least with stat squish, you can wear shoulders and be a god.

calm grail
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And if haste will be 🔥 🔥

lone junco
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i doubt. I do think that lust will be nice for ticks tho.

calm grail
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I was watching a video, and the bleeds ticking more often didn't add a ton of extra damage, but when they tick more often, you get more energy also.

lone junco
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would make amanthuls a lot more valuable in prepatch.

calm grail
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So there is that added benefit

lone junco
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= crit /mastery.

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I would have to see tick every 2sec, become tick every .8 sec to get very excited.

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that would make exang like 0.4s.

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bing bing bing

calm grail
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I'm really excited for the new mastery anyways.

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Never going to complain about a more balanced damage spread.

lone junco
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aside from orange grind, and destroying relics. Ive been pretty happy with legion.

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(sucked balls for alts)

calm grail
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Oh yeah. I finished grinding in Nighthold.

lone junco
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but I only play one at a time.

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Mythic BLP was so much higher than heroic.

calm grail
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I got lucky and got the legendary shoulders the week after they released

lone junco
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made me pretty furious.

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I got shoulder week 1 lfr in NH.

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guess thats pretty early

calm grail
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I finished my assassination legendaries in nighthold minus crown

lone junco
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man. i was all over the place. outlaw sin outlaw sin sub sin.

calm grail
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Wasn't in yet I don't think.

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I started as Outlaw until they beat it to death

lone junco
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i was too dump to swap

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I felt the pirate

calm grail
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I had played combat since SoO

hardy pewter
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the week after they came out, no one knew the shoulders were any good 😄

calm grail
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That's completely true, I remember getting them and not the boots and being disappointed

lone junco
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at that time, outlaw didnt know haste was any good.

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(mad at that one)

hardy pewter
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wasnt until weak theorycrafted them and found out they were bis

lone junco
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feely craft lead to greatness

hardy pewter
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shoulders were my very last legendary for assassin :<

calm grail
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My very last Rogue lego overall was first of the Dead

lone junco
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i got shoulders 3/16/2017

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has it been that long

calm grail
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I've gotten about eight random legendaries since.

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2 DH 2 Afflock 2 priest 1hunter and 1 Shaman

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Got the warlock affliction helm. Still haven't played it for shit.

lone junco
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ofc i was running sims on second screen

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man, does this game suck the years away

calm grail
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Noobe

lone junco
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ay

calm grail
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You've rated my logs. Now rate my mog.

lone junco
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I dont normally like mogs.

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but

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that ones really good

calm grail
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I was looking at the theme for KulTiras. Supposed to be all Supernatural and mystery themed, I wanted to go for a Witcheresque look

lone junco
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i either run default tier mog. or let my kid pick it.

calm grail
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All my son does is trash me if I'm not on fire when I play OverWatch or if I don't win

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He's 7

lone junco
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she always puts my rogue in a druid dress

dire spoke
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👀

shrewd oriole
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what the

calm grail
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Hmm.

strange python
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shit happens

calm grail
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Seems like you need new friends

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Tom move me to Europe.

strange python
shrewd oriole
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yeah

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I was spawn camping him

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guess it's partially deserved

lone junco
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pvp ugh

calm grail
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Occasionally I will go to a tower that my faction already controls and camp it.

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I don't know why, I just get a sick joy out of it.

lone junco
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I have a few 100k kills. just lost good healers.

dire spoke
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tom making friends again

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classic tom

lone junco
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they get stun fucked to death, and it's just not a fun role.

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and pvp without heals is my least favorite kind.

shrewd oriole
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@dire spoke you added me didnt you?

dire spoke
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you wanted to >:D

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@shrewd oriole but still I got no nudes

shrewd oriole
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you dont deserve them

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full oranges

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then maybe

gaunt moat
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don't be a scrooge

dire spoke
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wow rude

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can't do oranges with my guild

lone junco
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@jovial kite knew it was good.

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32M

shrewd oriole
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What the heck

lone junco
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2.58m ticks.

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👌

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missing both dog buff

shrewd oriole
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That’s sick

calm grail
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That's... That's... Bleeding insane! 😎

lone junco
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that is 32m over 16 sec. relatively consistent

calm grail
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Woooo

lone junco
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22-32m

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I am. I do shoulder poison for M+ utually

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that shocklight 2ndary is nice. I need to get some of that.

shrewd oriole
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How’s exsang in terms of consistency versus poison

calm grail
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Exsanguinate is the hipster build.

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If you're bent over backwards far enough to blow yourself, you can do pretty good stuff with it.

lone junco
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its never going to hit that 2.8M

shrewd oriole
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You say that like it’s a bad thing scath

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Fuck shoulders bracers is the Gucci build for logs

calm grail
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Wouldn't it be swell if you could exsanguinate Crimson tempest.

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Does that work?

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Any alpha testers here?

shrewd oriole
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What the heck

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Anticipation?

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Yeah whatcha need nira

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Weak fuu and I are the people who I know have alpha

calm grail
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Does Exsanguinate interact with Crimson Tempest.

lone junco
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@subtle kiln I ran EP Anti TB on argus

shrewd oriole
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St only

calm grail
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Lameeeeeee

lone junco
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yes. for ct. 12s to 6 sec.

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prob lame

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@subtle kiln 100% mut crit with the buffs 👌 .

shrewd oriole
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Anti is so last expansion

lone junco
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makes for good tb env env mut env

calm grail
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Apparently with enough Critical Strike Tom anticipation can be good because you will always be able to maintain the set buff.

lone junco
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Env Ep and 2p are like 95+

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in theory

calm grail
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So either you generate less energy and waste no cps, or waste combo points occasionallt and generate more energy

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Occasionally*

shrewd oriole
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Man

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Playing without vigor tho

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Cancer

calm grail
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With high crit it's not bad.

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Anticipation

shrewd oriole
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I get that it’s not bad it’s just gonna play slower

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The spec already has a lot of downtime

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And quite low apm

quick talon
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@shrewd oriole Yea ive seen that video

shrewd oriole
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Irl racials

quick talon
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writing all that stuff down

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would probably result in a ban

lone junco
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my goal is to make that angelcry rotation work.

quick talon
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😄

lone junco
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just dont want to drop my 3ma to do it.

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3bb 3malch would do it tho

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ye. thats a good spot

shrewd oriole
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Boes

lone junco
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wrist?

shrewd oriole
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Boe wrists are super nice

lone junco
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mine are shit.

quick talon
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"I chose the black male and immediately got arrested by an admin after the 9 month loading screen."

lone junco
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aside from orange sub/sin/outlaw lol

shrewd oriole
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I bought a 970 pair on week 1 for two milli and they’re so nice

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Way fuckinf easier than farming m*

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And the ones in raid are dogshit

quick talon
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I'd love to start in africa

shrewd oriole
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Hard mode

quick talon
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idd

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starving at lvl 1 already

shrewd oriole
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Where’s nelbur 😡

midnight latch
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mod this chat pls

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fokin racist

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wew

leaden sky
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Hello fellow rogues. I am now playing abit on my rogue in mythic plus, and I have an addon to help me show values of new cruicible traits in the tree by numbers, do you have a string for such for assasination?

strange python
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Do you wait until you get the agility Fang buff before the second+ vanish?

shrewd oriole
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Wew another shooting in us

lone junco
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no wew

shrewd oriole
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Someone mod this country

strange python
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yes? no?

lone junco
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@strange python interesting. I dont play around the trinkets, but I do play around bota.

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conc is bigger tbh.

midnight latch
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if you wanna play around something play around conc

strange python
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Just feel like the Fang is really counterintuitive with the shoulders. If the crit buff is on then it does nothing. and the agility buff is not guaranteed to be active so it lowers burst.

midnight latch
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not the dog trinket

shrewd oriole
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Ye

lone junco
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conc is 11k agi

shrewd oriole
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But even then

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It’s not really that important lol

lone junco
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I pray for bota/conc alignment at my vanish exang.

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makes for the big exsang

shrewd oriole
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Just press all your buttons get orange log out

lone junco
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gimme like 20ilvl. Ill be gold.

shrewd oriole
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20 is a bit wishful aren’t you like 964 lmao

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984 equipped would be pretty scary

lone junco
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@shrewd oriole 953 ish

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nvm

shrewd oriole
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Ah

lone junco
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t20 rip

shrewd oriole
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Yeah :/

lone junco
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beats my 963 green though.

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so w/e

shrewd oriole
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I’m 972 as assa but as sub I drop to like 968 st 964 aoe

lone junco
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Im going to run that sub stuff over the weekend.

shrewd oriole
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Hype

lone junco
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my new card should be gtg tomorrow

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Btw. I got my ret to run that sim with me.

shrewd oriole
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I did something funny today in a cos

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Was just doing a low ish key for the weekly right, using my 970 KG trinket

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Never used it before

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Vanish shadow dance symbols dfa mines

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One shot the adds

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Literally insta dead

lone junco
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hectic3-60. anyway. he popped that for the massive trash packs in uld plant room/ like 30 secs of 1fps. He single handed did like 75% of the raid damage.

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Love that

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i tested mines on ptr

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they are Absurd if you could stack them for a vanish symbold dance.

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it was like 5x dummy mines, and was easily just under Evisc for dmg

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Ive been listening to my man @ Shantal

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cant use simc patchwork to pump your m+ deeps. gotta go fat mongo cleave.

shrewd oriole
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Nutty

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Yeah with low boss movement they are insane

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Was talking to ashine about it

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He was the one who gave me the idea

lone junco
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I just want to alternate them with glaives.

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or even open glaives finish mines.

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gives you time to stack them up.

keen inlet
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How many do you need for uld timewalk?

lone junco
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we had 18. it was flex.

haughty harness
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10+ just like Black temple?

lone junco
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hard mode on the first boss was really rough.

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we were too derpy for that one.

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did the rest.

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without the towers, boss died in like 14 seconds.

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but its a really long instance. so we didnt want take very many attempts

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Personal loot only. So we did in fact lose a WF trinket to a fucking guest.

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Low count would be hard for first boss with the different type of machines. And tanking the cats away from each other would have been nice with 3rd tank.

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(Cat lady)

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random log.

this is how you get a grey.

warm geode
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@lone junco i like to bleed ideia, waiting for bfa to make a rogue actualy with aoe bleed and good damage, but for legion (yet) this shit monk ( 1 week ) is already hiting more then my rogue on AoE trashs -.-`` with bis leggos will pass easy overall

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i want so badly the new mastery and hast applying to bleed for feeling good at rogue

lone junco
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I dont think it will help.

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we are sustained pressure.

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fat burst is "fun"

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Maybe the prepatch Mastery to bleeds will make exang good for a few weeks as long as we dont get stat squished then.

dire spoke
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lol another relic

warm geode
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@lone junco im looking for the late game, i play boths sub and sin right now, and not even m+23 my AoE is good, for sub i just can hit hight damage on one target and sin depends on pb procs ( even 30sec big pulls cant out damage or equaly damage as hunter or lock )

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with thoses changes for bfa the end game of assassin for AoE is pretty good

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hast>mast/crit builds will be op with crimson tempest

lone junco
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i guess. if you can get haste to cut CT time in half. you could mut mut ct . . mut mut ct.

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ill have to play it on beta or ptr to see.

plain thistle
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thats not what haste does

lone junco
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right.

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just tick rate

plain thistle
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yup

lone junco
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Exang on CT is even really limp. 12s to 6s. even if it were aoe would be shitty to use.

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if you could fok rupture fok rupture fok rupture fok rupture fok ct. exang. 👌 and STILL be beat by 2pb in the same duration.

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when I wanted hasted bleeds, it was without mastery.

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so crit haste.

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but with all 3. we are just going to spread thin.

warm geode
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just to be sure( dont play exg for long time ) is a ST bleed time reduction right? not AoE

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?

lone junco
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it is st.

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I just dont think ct will compete with PB in current Alpha build.

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I like it at the minimum for bloodlust.

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at least we will get some value from it.

warm geode
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if was right now, i would prefer ct over pb, i could cast 3 ct for sure on one big pull at +23

lone junco
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did they cut the minimum player level to access AH?
My bank cannot access. he is lvl 11.

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ok. If you assume that 1 ct full duration damage = 1 pb but pb is 3 sec ct is 12. and that given 4%x5 will get you a bomb every 12 sec. then in that case. CT seems similar. and dont need to be standing still

warm geode
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ct is 12sec

lone junco
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k

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thought it was 12 then thought it was 16.

warm geode
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and u can take in cout the ct will generate energy

lone junco
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and that shoulder is BFA 50% not 100

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Ok. For the Kiting trash alone, I guess.

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if the damage were equal

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1 bomb = 1 ct

warm geode
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i think th will try balance for dat, medium stats pb=ct , but with more secondary stats i would say ct scales better(atm)

lone junco
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I try not to get too excited over the future patches. never know what will stick.

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pb would clearly scale with crit.

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cp/min.

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CT is just haste mastery and raw number of mobs.

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you can only 5cp finish so pb has a capped proc rate. where as CT will hit all things 100% of the time.

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fok into 20 mobs and no bomb is a critical fail. at least the CT would do work.

warm geode
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about stats

crit : ct>pb ( boths double damage with crit but ct generate energy throught passive )
hast : only ct scales
vers : boths equal
mast : boths equal

is what im thinking

lone junco
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in current meta 10+, without bomb you would fok env fok ct fok rupture fok rupture fok env fok ct.

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i guess.

warm geode
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and the 50% crit talent i think the sucks

lone junco
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high crit pushes out a lot more cps/min. youll see pb scale there.

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more cp = more finisheres.

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sounds neat.

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prepatch with current T21 should be interesting for sure.

warm geode
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didnt thought about dat , u right

lone junco
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and still having artifacts

warm geode
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we need to see how much hast will decrease the dot duration, cuz could be turning to OP stast for massive reduc duration or just a stat the if u get u dont feel so bad about it

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there will be a hast cap, the question will be if is like 10% or 50%

lone junco
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I know i havent recorded any vod. but holy shit.

HEY GUIZ ITS YABOI __ AND TODAY WE ARE

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maybe its just what sounds cool.

warm geode
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dat is not asmongold :kappa

dire spoke
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p o g g e r s

manic vigil
dire spoke
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gained 40k today

manic vigil
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yeah I grabbed some stuff today as well

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but I'm still depressed. In my new raid, where people can actually play, rogue feels like shite FeelsBadMan

warm geode
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?

manic vigil
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the only boss where I was almost king was garothi with 14% pbomb. And the monk still beat me.

warm geode
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if u r aiming to beat monks and locks u will be disapointed

manic vigil
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I know 😃

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worked in my old raid just fine

warm geode
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at least i dont have to worry about monks

manic vigil
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but that's not actually a good thing

warm geode
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we dont have any on my core xD

manic vigil
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getting destroyed by monks in ST is kinda triggering me

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aoe, fair enough, but both sucks

onyx rock
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How much sims the highest siming sin rogue right now ? Maybe its Jhonwei ?

manic vigil
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it might be

onyx rock
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Over 2,3 ?

warm geode
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i simc close to him

manic vigil
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I think they just broke 2.3

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not 100% tho

onyx rock
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I get close to 2,2 now...

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With an old 930 Engine Trinket

manic vigil
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sounds good

onyx rock
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My Argus trinket is only 980 too

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Today i was playing around with head/insignia... was simming a bit higher but felt very weird

warm geode
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2.280 my simc, if he break the 2.3 well done

onyx rock
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Holy Moly

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Can you link your simc @warm geode ?

lament pawn
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Is the chest core for a 4 piece??

onyx rock
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Hmm its the trinkets i guess

warm geode
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chest pants head r the best stats for boots/bracer

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this tier we have all 5 pieces with good/decents stats , apart from shoulders

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hands have hast but is with alot mastery

lament pawn
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If i play shoulders and bracers is chest a core piece?

warm geode
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yeah

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but u can play any of the 5 pieces as long u replace with a massive bis stats upgrade

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like mine simc there, i have an 960 bis head and 960 good hand

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simm almost the same to replace

lament pawn
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alright thnx mate

warm geode
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np

quick ice
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@warm geode how many pantheon trinkets is that Sim with?I can't tell

warm geode
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0

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let me sim again

quick ice
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Dang, nice

warm geode
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and i use boots/brancer for my prog ( argus )

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sim 2.160

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i think was a high roll

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2.3 boys

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ops

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dat was with path

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nvm 😃

vital junco
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yo i got a question

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i do have Mantle of the Master Assassin ... now is my question : soul of the shadowblade or grand army

onyx rock
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I rly just need better trinkets rip

onyx rock
warm geode
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0 patheons

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what is u weapoin ilvl?

onyx rock
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998

warm geode
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990 mine .-. good relics but no ilvl

onyx rock
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2 of mine are multilate crit

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With malch

warm geode
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the bis setup for me is 1MA 2BB 3Malch

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using for prog on argus (boots/bracer)

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with 3 shocklight

onyx rock
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If you could get a higher shadow one

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Ez 2,3

warm geode
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actually no

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i need same traits and more ilvl to replace

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cuz i have 3MA, i cant change to 2MA

onyx rock
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Yes that is what i mean

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Hard to get

warm geode
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is 3 or 1

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at current stage i just want the garothi shoulders or 970 or 960 with socket

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tired to farm DHT for neck -.-``

remote totem
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On our relics, do we have something that shows how much each trait is worth in ilvls

warm geode
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do we?

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ik the herodamage numbers, but for personal simcs idk

remote totem
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Aighty

plain thistle
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trinket 995 + a good relic = more than 2.3M sim 😛

warm geode
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report not found

plain thistle
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lol

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try again 😛

warm geode
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subterfuge is simming higher for me now .-. ( boots/bracer ) +16k

hazy beacon
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why no shoulders? 985 pieces

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?

strange python
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Jhonwei !

warm geode
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@hazy beacon better for argus M

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shoulders

hazy beacon
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Thanks for clarification (:

alpine rover
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How do I get higher stat weights? Higher ilvl?

solid field
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did it boys

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got the shoulders

quick ice
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🎊

solid field
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only had 3 left. bout time

quick ice
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For anyone who can answer -what makes boot bracers better on Argus? Still doing aggramar prog but getting closer

topaz axle
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my guess would be 2-3 extra vendetta's vs weird cd lineups with vanish

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but i haven't attempted, so take that with a grain of salt

onyx falcon
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o god... broad youve moved to the pirate realm

gilded lark
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what

manic vigil
static acorn
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I know that the ilvl of the gear in your chest is based on the highest M+ you did, but what pieces does it draw from? Is it just any dungeon gear no matter what M+ you ran? Is it just from the highest one you did (so like if you did Maw of Souls it'd be a piece from Maw of Souls)?

topaz axle
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2 broadsides?!?!

spare cloud
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It's a random dungeon piece

topaz axle
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@gilded lark when is patch for 8.0?

gilded lark
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6

manic vigil
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when will you get muted again broadsides pepethink

gilded lark
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idk

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probably soon

manic vigil
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I think so, too

gilded lark
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but does anyone care what you think

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🤔

manic vigil
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probably not

gilded lark
manic vigil
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is it sad tho

gilded lark
vapid moth
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we talkin heroic argus? i dont think id ever use bracer boot that fight

manic vigil
#

awww

vapid moth
#

the vanish CD never felt awkward. got vanish on pull. vanish when you have 5 or so stacks. then vanish on nature ad

gilded lark
#

in all your one kill xae LUL

vapid moth
#

i know

#

hey 1 kill and many pulls

gilded lark
#

that doesn't make it better

manic vigil
#

who are you talking to xaethron

vapid moth
#

still im giving my view. youre free to help me change it

gilded lark
#

himself

vapid moth
#

@quick ice

spare cloud
#

This is hilarious

manic vigil
#

oh, got it

gilded lark
#

leave spoops out of this

onyx rock
#

@vapid moth was about mythic Argus

vapid moth
#

ah

gilded lark
vapid moth
#

then nvm my input

#

though im still interested

thick kettle
#

how do people parse high on high command as assassination

topaz axle
#

time for agg prog bois

thick kettle
#

when i say people i mean rogues

vapid moth
#

you do AOE whenever possibel donald

manic vigil
#

wtf was that

topaz axle
#

you get PB procs

#

wtf spec bot not working?

spare cloud
#

I'd love to see an assassination paladin though

thick kettle
#

so basically RNG

spare cloud
#

Yeah its not.

manic vigil
#

why are you wheelchairing me "smarty" REEE

#

you pos

#

let's fite

vapid moth
#

not always. like if there are ads around when i vanish i just use Fok.

#

instead of mut

gilded lark
#

you have outlaw, bleed, and poison roles clay

#

#

outlaw just covers the other two

topaz axle
#

gotcha gotcha

spare cloud
#

FoK instead of Mut after vanish 🤔

vapid moth
#

yes. one extra CP. whats the issue

topaz axle
#

so just !spec outlaw to remove?

vapid moth
#

please. tell me toph

gilded lark
#

yews

#

yes

#

also using fok or mut after vanish

vapid moth
#

well after the envenom i mean.

#

gets tiring having to explain everything just cause yall feel the need to bash on everything

spare cloud
#

ahahahaha

manic vigil
#

I didn't xae

#

boradsides is just being an ass as usual

vapid moth
#

yes i love you uni

manic vigil
#

🤷

#

there ya go

#

that's what I like to hear

#

all the hate

#

stop reacting with nonsense "smarty"

#

or I will hunt you down REEE

spare cloud
#

No need to be afraid of you hunting anyone down

manic vigil
#

why not

spare cloud
#

didn't expect that question

manic vigil
spare cloud
#

No curse words.

manic vigil
spare cloud
#

Just got qued into nexus tw and tank died on first mob

manic vigil
#

👌

#

sounds like fun

vapid moth
#

i ran Seat with a tank who felt the need to pull fucking everything he saw tuesday

spare cloud
#

I sadly need the bonusroll

#

I might get one of the 4 trinkets I need this week

#

can't give up any chances

gilded lark
#

@midnight latch got them on my alt now too gachiGASM

#

also you're green now MonkaMEGA

manic vigil
topaz axle
#

i just wanna be a bleed boi 😢

manic vigil
#

moroes is dead, gotta harass an orange

#

notter is eager to wake up for you I hear

gilded lark
#

@supple hearth likes pings

manic vigil
gilded lark
topaz axle
#

1st pull Agg, ranged hugging each other :)))

gilded lark
#

scorching blaze doesn't hurt :)))

topaz axle
#

they forgot to pop cloak i guess

gilded lark
#

noobs

topaz axle
#

gonna talk em into macroing feint to every ability

vapid moth
#

Question. Why aren’t bonus rolls allowed on M+ chests

lost mist
#

i think this is a stupid question but: if i can use 2 vanish o MGarothi, should i wait the second cd until 30%?

topaz axle
#

I do, but idk if optimal

vapid moth
#

Yes @lost mist

#

Though if you really wanna pad the dps log you get in a group where you can use 3

#

And have the 3rd at the very end

warm geode
#

yes, if for sure u will only have 2, the last one alwats use below 30% with cds

lost mist
#

kk, ty guys ❤

warm geode
#

same with last vendetta or kb

vapid moth
#

So back to my bonus roll question. Cause that shit is retarded

warm geode
#

i mean, u cant bonus roll cuz they dont want, simple

#

and is not a loot of a boss, is a loot from a group of bosses

vapid moth
#

Can we agree that it’s retarded though? They’re allowed in raids. Allowed in invasion points. Allowed in weekly pvp shit. But not allowed in m+ dungeons

warm geode
#

i think the is correct not allow bonus on m+

vapid moth
#

Pvp stuff isn’t a singular boss either

daring yacht
#

is assassination any good in high keys or is it a requirement to go sub?

viscid helm
#

No

spare cloud
#

Depends on the dungeon. It can be fine for some. But you'd prefer sub anyways.

daring yacht
#

just hate grinding different gear and leggos for a second spec

viscid helm
#

Should play a proper class then

spare cloud
#

Well if you want to play really high keys then you wont get around it but for stuff like 15 or 17 it doesn't matter anyways

viscid helm
#

And not rogue

worthy thistle
#

Just play sin anything under 20 doesn't matter over 20 it's fine

warm geode
#

@daring yacht depends on the comp, if the comp have burst dps, there is no need to play sub, but if the comp lacks of burst, u prob will need to change

daring yacht
#

thank you all, how different is the stats from sin to sub? do i need much different gear?

warm geode
#

for m+ they r the same stats

#

mast>vers>agi=crit>>>>>>hast

#

shoulders r bae for boths

#

sin have more damage but need time to build, sub have more burst overall(aoe and st)

jovial kite
#

@gaunt moat give that man exsang 👉🏼

quick talon
#

❤️

spark geyser
#

@lone junco #5 heroic garothi assassination

#

just like angelcry

#

he has 1 master assassin, but he delayed vendetta

#

so didn't actually get any use out of it at all

#

that log is from today

jovial kite
#

lol

#

Pb number 1

spark geyser
jovial kite
#

Must be the build

#

and the player

quick talon
#

Wtffff

spark geyser
#

well the point of linking that guy's log isn't poison bomb

#

he's doing the same thing angelcry did

#

tb/kb alignment with boots/wrists

jovial kite
#

He also had insane pb luck

#

Like every top log in patchwerk

#

Even better luck than angelcry

spark geyser
#

well, i don't think you're getting around the fact that poison bomb luck is what assassination parses are about

viscid helm
#

No

#

Its skill

quick talon
#

Regardless of those bombs

#

Juicy kb dmg

jovial kite
#

idk 2 rank 1s coven mythic with avg 5% pb

#

oh yeah, that build makes for big kb

#

No denying

spark geyser
#

noobe likes the angelcry build so i thought i'd link that log from today

jovial kite
#

Id probably play the same build if i had the gear and if i played poison now that progress is over

#

but exsang is bae

spark geyser
#

yeah i want to try it out too; need specific relics though

#

0 ma is optimal

#

probably 3 bb 3 malch

jovial kite
#

and specific fighttimes and pb luck 😄

quick talon
#

,'''well, i don't think you're getting around the fact that poison bomb luck is what assassination parses are about'''

spark geyser
#

well fight times help but the idea of the build holds in longer fights too

#

every kb aligns with tb

#

every other tb/kb aligns with vendetta

jovial kite
#

I think it loses on prolonged fights to every other build

#

Because you lose more casts the longer the fight

#

So i dont see it being viable anywhere else than heroic and mythic farm

spark geyser
#

might be so, might not be

jovial kite
#

Im sure it is though

spark geyser
#

theoretically you'd lose the same percentage of casts in different fight lengths

jovial kite
#

Yeah but you lose more compared to other builds

#

Thats the point

#

3x ma might het 3 even 4 more casts of ven in mythic argus

#

Huge deal considering p1 buffs too

spark geyser
#

i wouldn't use this build on progression

#

we're just having fun

jovial kite
#

not even considering prolongged execute

spark geyser
#

miwen did something a little different than angelcry though

jovial kite
#

yeah idd just pointing out

spark geyser
#

if you look at his tb/kb casts

#

he casted kb first each time and used tb on the tail end

viscid helm
#

Looks like a pointless build

spark geyser
#

you can hate if you want it looks fun

#

just want to explore different things

#

than shoulderbomb.spec

jovial kite
#

Its sole purpose is to get lucky pbs and ranks every 100 pulls 🤷

viscid helm
#

"Fun"

#

Lold

spark geyser
#

aight w/e

hazy flame
#

What build is this youre talking about?

spark geyser
#

boots/wrists poison 0 ma

#

delay every toxic blade for kingsbane

hazy flame
#

Whats up with the 0 ma restriction?

spark geyser
#

tb/kb vendetta alignment

#

every other tb/kb combo aligns with every vendetta

#

if you add MA it just screws up the timing

#

miwen actually had 1 ma in that log i linked

#

but delayed vendetta so got 0% use out of it

hazy flame
#

Is this simmed?

spark geyser
#

no

#

sims don't do this build

#

angelcry did it a while ago to get rank 1 heroic garothi and still has rank 1

#

noobe likes the build a lot i've seen him link it at least a few times

#

i'm interested in it

hazy flame
#

I mean you can probably play around with the apl

#

To delay every toxic blade for the kb

viscid helm
#

Its been done

#

Pretty sure

#

And its a loss

hazy flame
#

Yeah i think i remember that

livid crescent
#

Got 980 Crit mastery pants tonight bois sadly gotta use tier gloves

jovial kite
#

Gz!

#

And sorry for ur loss 😄

vapid moth
#

@viscid helm it might be a loss but what if it’s simply easier to perform well with it so a persons actual dps is higher

quick ice
#

Tier gloves could be worse

#

At least they have high mastery

jovial kite
#

i would get ranks too with those pb procs 😄 @vapid moth

viscid helm
#

That makes no sense

vapid moth
#

Fair point. Though I did read something about the coven player getting 5% pb up there

#

Nvm. I’m done explaining myself for today

jovial kite
#

confirmation bias is a thing, and all logs regardin the build so far has similar characteristics

spare cloud
#

I just started Hollow Knight. Atmosphere is amazing I'm already impressed

vapid moth
#

What’s that

#

Dunno if it’s a game or if he just started a guild and is tryna say he has a chill persona

quick ice
#

is a game

shrewd night
#

lower variance != higher dps

#

🎶 sweet sweet caffeine 🎶

exotic glen
#

cant find the source of this conversation

#

what build are we talking about

stark heart
#

0 ma, stacking TB and KB always

viscid helm
#

Delaying cooldowns

stark heart
#

if I read it correctly

#

think weak tried it and all attempts resulted in loss

viscid helm
#

Yes

jovial kite
#

But its rank 1 hc garothi, disregard pb though build is good no keepo clappa

shrewd night
#

H E R omegaLUL I C

old sphinx
#

wow so toxic boi, proffessional heroic raider here apuApustaja

shrewd night
#

I mean, if you get paid to raid heroic, I want a piece of that cake

jovial kite
#

given the right context it works

spare cloud
#

Sellruns?

jovial kite
#

Undoubtedly

#

But with the same context everything else works toi

old sphinx
#

i was joking.... imma kms now cuz im not funny bye

spare cloud
#

Have fun

stark heart
jovial kite
shrewd night
#

Do a flip

jovial kite
#

(:

old sphinx
#

yolo flips out of halfpipe straight into a pool of acid

shrewd night
#

standing ovation

jovial kite
#

golf claps

vapid moth
#

@shrewd night ty for that. Lower variance higher dps

old sphinx
#

on a totally different note, what's up with the weather the past few days ? we've had rain, sunshine snow and storm

spare cloud
#

How are you still alive dude

gilded lark
#

we were above freezing here in canada yesterday

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

weird shit for feb

vapid moth
#

Above? That's the end of the world

#

You should be in a bunker

gilded lark
#

GlObAl WaRmInG duckbob

old sphinx
vapid moth
#

I'm gonna ignore the shade toph keeps throwing

gilded lark
#

he's just the new guy that's trying to out-autism everyone

old sphinx
#

but you know, driving has been fun :haHAA:

vapid moth
#

I'm well aware

#

It's called bait

gilded lark
spare cloud
#

What

#

Btw it wasnt even directed at you O.O thats why im confused

vapid moth
#

Who said i thought it was

spare cloud
#

was following the stuff that was going on before.

old sphinx
#

somehow he's triggered by everything you say... Y'all like exes or some shit ?

spare cloud
#

Yeah

#

He cheated on me

old sphinx
#

gasp

#

grabs popcorn 🍿

vapid moth
#

It was July 27 2006

#

We were on our honeymoon in dubai

old sphinx
#

why am I reading this in morgan freemans voice

#

anyway continue

spare cloud
#

Sitting in the bus most of the time is kinda boring

#

good parttime job though

#

getting payed for actually working 10% of the time and 90% sitting in the bus

old sphinx
#

huh what parttime job consists of sitting in a bus most of the time

vapid moth
#

Assistant bus driver

gilded lark
#

child molester

shrewd night
#

Bus drivers need assistants?

old sphinx
#

lul tb

spare cloud
#

Yes

#

I sell the tickets

shrewd night
#

what

vapid moth
#

It's the most retarded thing pulling

#

Oh I meant school busses

old sphinx
#

you dont have ticket machines on buses ?

cloud dune
#

somebody told me 150% mastery was ideal for poison build. Should I call them a filthy liar?

gilded lark
#

yes

shrewd night
#

2018
have to sell tickets onboard buses

vapid moth
#

Yes

shrewd night
#

???

old sphinx
#

what country u living in ? india ?

vapid moth
#

Lmfao

spare cloud
#

germany

vapid moth
#

How yall gonna bust on a man's job like that

shrewd night
#

@grim jay I thought you said Germany was a progressed country

gilded lark
#

autobahn? more like autobanthispleb

spare cloud
#

Gotta do what you have to do to finance university 😦

old sphinx
#

lmao 😂

exotic glen
#

paying for school

vapid moth
#

This is why we don't release personal info in public chats

old sphinx
#

maybe it's a party bus and he sells tickets to tophifee land 😏

exotic glen
#

gud one m8

gilded lark
#

that sounds like the worlds slowest amusement park

shrewd night
#

🍿

gilded lark
#

every ride is a kiddie ride

spare cloud
#

I love how this turned out

vapid moth
#

So whats this FoK build I keep hearing about?

gilded lark
#

dont

vapid moth
#

Lmao

exotic glen
#

i heard we're using throwing knife in opener now?

shrewd night
#

When broadsides starts to roast someone you know they did dun fucked up somewhere

jovial kite
#

best spec for m+???

exotic glen
#

outlaw snd right?

tranquil birch
#

pK buG HotFiXeD?

gilded lark
#

yes

jovial kite
#

Sinister strike making return???

#

best spec for bfa ??

vapid moth
#

All the memes

stark heart
#

@exotic glen wrong, affli

shrewd night
#

All of these non top3, irrelevant memes.

old sphinx
#

Hei guys have you ever tried translating talents from other languages back to english ?

exotic glen
#

ah fuck you got me

#

im a spy for the affli discord

vapid moth
#

How many pk relics do we need for the build?

jovial kite
#

How am i supposed to pull new code out of my ass??

stark heart
#

I am waiting for prog to be over and start leveling lock

exotic glen
#

3x stranglers, xaethron

spare cloud
#

Just use your 110 boost for a warlock

quick ice
#

why not level lock now @stark heart ?

viscid helm
#

Progress to be over

spare cloud
#

or what did you use it for

jovial kite
#

-20 iq pleb

viscid helm
#

LUL

old sphinx
#

200iq poggers

gilded lark
#

do yourself a favor and click "open link" on that heHEE emoji

#

its even funnier when it's full size

shrewd night
#

Are you top3?

if yes, progress is over
if no, progress is over

#

🤔

vapid moth
#

If broad says I must I will

jovial kite
#

2k18 not top 3 and private logs

#

Not even enjoying the game

quick ice
#

that is an excellent emoji

gilded lark
#

finally got around to stealing it

tranquil birch
#

your logs are still private long after killing argus?

#

why?

stark heart
#

@viscid helm hey you bully

vapid moth
#

It doesn't work on a phone. I cri

stark heart
#

we are close

gilded lark
#

then get on a pc thinkW

exotic glen
#

no bully my friend lorentz

vapid moth
#

It's a bit far

old sphinx
#

I hate that this channel is always memeing, I mean I can understand now why AMR would say class discords are toxic

gilded lark
#

lol

tranquil birch
#

lmao amr actually says that?

gilded lark
#

did you miss the article?

jovial kite
#

kyis

gilded lark
#

and where else would we meme

exotic glen
#

you didnt read the article did you

tranquil birch
#

apparently

vapid moth
#

I didn't read the article..

gilded lark
#

mods say general channel is less moderated

jovial kite
#

amr kys meter stacked chart

gilded lark
#

moderated like absolute fuck

#

so

tranquil birch
#

lmao can someone link it?

shrewd night
#

Ayyyyy lemme read the article

gilded lark
#

it was

#

a while ago

#

hold on

jovial kite
#

69 kYS PeR DaY

exotic glen
vapid moth
#

"Check the pins"

shrewd night
tranquil birch
#

Desperate attempt to remain relevant

gilded lark
#

exactly what it is

tranquil birch
#

should be a good read

vapid moth
#

Lmao that article intro is enough for me

gilded lark
#

"new fiscal year, better draw some attention"

exotic glen
#

its just retarded how many things were taken out of context and some were baited by the people wanting to be outraged

jovial kite
#

class discords are the bad guys, amr is good guy USE MY SOFTWARE PLEASE

shrewd night
#

if that is legit

#

Then

#

WEW

#

We aint evne toxic bois

jovial kite
#

it is

shrewd night
#

We need to step up

gilded lark
#

this artical actually happened yes

exotic glen
#

also, their definition of toxicity is just so low anything can offend them

gilded lark
#

Anyone else banned from amr discord

jovial kite
#

feminists 🤷

gilded lark
#

jovial kite
#

Typical tactic

exotic glen
#

amr has a discord?

gilded lark
#

yeah

old sphinx
#

wait

exotic glen
#

no idea why i would care LOL

old sphinx
#

you actually got banned from amr discord ?! :?D

vapid moth
#

Well I'm gonna sleep. I crave your attention so please say gnight

shrewd night
#

'Warrior Discord, Skyhold (outlaw refers to the spec, not jail)'

jovial kite
old sphinx
#

i guess you're toxic

shrewd night
#

I AM FUCKING DEAD

#

AHAHHAAHAHA

gilded lark
#

i got banned for, when someone asked about a problem with amr, replying with "it's not simulationcraft"

#

thanks

old sphinx
#

hahahahhaah

#

@gilded lark holy

#

shit

#

ded

vapid moth
#

😬

gilded lark
#

😃

tranquil birch
#

wow that was..

gilded lark
#

surprisingly it wasn't from tagging zooper in every class discord

tranquil birch
#

I'm not even sure

jovial kite
#

Its good amr discord is moderated omegaLUL

gilded lark
#

and calling them all retards

old sphinx
exotic glen
#

pls respond

stark heart
#

hey

jovial kite
stark heart
#

stop being toxic for real

gilded lark
#

wait that means you guys don't know the oogabooga reference

spare cloud
#

Else someones gonna call the police

stark heart
#

yeah I'll ping Notter

shrewd night
stark heart
#

he obviously didn't turn off sound again

jovial kite
viscid helm
#

@gaunt moat

#

@gaunt moat

#

@gaunt moat

old sphinx
stark heart
viscid helm
#

@gaunt moat

shrewd night
jovial kite
gilded lark
exotic glen
#

idk, i got told off by a mod simply for saying something bad to someone

#

didnt even use swear words

spare cloud
#

got told of by a mad?

exotic glen
#

fuck

stark heart
#

mad fuck?

spare cloud
#

I think mad works fine.

exotic glen
#

mad

shrewd night
#

Better than Tom, he got the roast for being toxic because he said someones gear was bad. Literally made the dude quit.

spare cloud
#

why change it?

jovial kite
#

God mad by talking fuck

old sphinx
#

tom quit ?

#

or the dude quit

#

?

exotic glen
#

tom that was active in here like yesterday?

shrewd night
#

No, the dude

gilded lark
#

but was his gear bad

old sphinx
#

whoa

jovial kite
#

Tom the dude?

spare cloud
#

Tom flamed the dude so hard that he himself quit

shrewd night
#

21% haste isnt fucking bad

#

gtfo

gilded lark
#

i mean

#

it's pretty fucking bad

tranquil birch
#

he was sin?

shrewd night
#

Yes

jovial kite
#

Haste rouge PogChamp

old sphinx
#

he used amr ?

tranquil birch
#

that's beyond bad

jovial kite
#

Thats maybe the worst gear i seen

spare cloud
#

didnt someone sim haste assa yesterday?

jovial kite
#

Like legit

spare cloud
#

and it simmed like 600k less

#

or smth

old sphinx
#

ye noobe

stark heart
#

Haste is bae

gilded lark
#

makes me wanna dig back and find the log

old sphinx
#

get out !

gilded lark
#

psure the sin rogue i ran with at one point had like 33%

stark heart
#

Saving all the haste gear for BfA leveling

viscid helm
#

I have 25%

#

Rn

old sphinx
#

I mean if i^d put on all my haste gear i could top that easily

shrewd night
#

with or without alacrity

stark heart
#

how many stacks of alacrity?

#

Flowi

shrewd night
#

Lorentz, highfive

stark heart
#

o/

shrewd night
#

\o

gilded lark
#

lulW stolen

viscid helm
#

I mean the Haste gear Sims better than crit/mast

shrewd night
#

dw, I stole it from somewhere else

tranquil birch
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Flowi you got 6% on armory rn, you run a different set for alacratiy or something?

viscid helm
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Im just ahead of the meta

gray citrus
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any good recommendations for raiding UI? i.e something that will keep track of dot timers by the decimal

shrewd night
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📌

spare cloud
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Weakauras

gray citrus
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ty

old sphinx
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monkaS that name tho : MoistSoftOcelotChocolateRain

jovial kite
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🤣

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Flowi you instantly got the badge when you left yesterday btw

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50 views in 5 minutes or so

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@viscid helm

green osprey
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when is crit capped?

exotic glen
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at 100%

spare cloud
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🤔

shrewd night
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I mean. He ain't wrong.

green osprey
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okay a realistic answer

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like 30-35?

rich wren
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That's not what a cap is though

shrewd night
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No critcap

hazy beacon
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How's bracers+boots are better for m argus progression? What is the scenario that makes us pass on shoulders?

spare cloud
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Shitty timings

shrewd night
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Execute

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Boom

hazy beacon
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Thanks!

spare cloud
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More vendettas

dreamy furnace
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Both boots and Shoulders rely on specific timers to really pull out great dps

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for some bosses your vanish CDs are just not going to line up well

hazy beacon
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Wow, last time you went so toxic. Thanks for the help!

shrewd night
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Must have talked to tom

spare cloud
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Toxic class discords

tranquil birch
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The AMR article has changed us

shrewd night
hazy beacon
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It was Toph

exotic glen
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should report this to AMR

shrewd night
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Lulllllll

rich wren
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I like shoulders more regardless on red guy

tranquil birch
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We've reformed

spare cloud
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What

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I'm never toxic

hazy beacon
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You're great again

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You were toxic last time when I had paladin shit on my avatar

shrewd night
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Paladin? Gtfo REE

spare cloud
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If you consider me trolling and saying that you are a paladin spy is toxic, then yes

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😄

hazy beacon
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Paladin spy? More like raid healer passionate with alt