assassination

[old sphinx]

• gasp *

On CD

[hazy beacon]

It's in the guide @hoary patrol

[hoary patrol]

!guide

[hazy beacon]

Hah fuck no

Go figure

[hoary patrol]

🤣🤣

[hazy beacon]

It's in the header dude

[spare cloud]

🤦

time to sleep. gn.

[hoary patrol]

I found it in pins

[old sphinx]

old m,emes are new memes I guess

[vocal roost]

I should be working, not checking memes here

go on.

[exotic glen]

Not sure why blizz loves these big and elaborate names for semi-lame effects

"Death destruction køller cannon super: gives 1% movement speed"

Killer

[shrewd night]

Its

a

meme

[quick ice]

welp, too many melee for aggramar and we got the circle

that was fun

[compact lodge]

[stark heart]

@exotic glen the best we had in Legion is Fortune's Strike and Fortune Strikes

[shrewd night]

I always have to triple check when I get relics for outlaw

[exotic glen]

Especially when one og them was the worst DPS trait og them all

Andbyou thoughtbyou got the other one

Fucking phone and its autocorrect

[old sphinx]

it looks like you have fuckin steak for fingers lmao 😂

[shrewd night]

Are you mocking steaks?

Steaks are good dawg

[exotic glen]

My fingers are shrek lvl

[old sphinx]

nah man I love me some steak

[crystal fox]

mmm steak

[strange python]

I just got my rouge lvl capped and i'm not that geared yet but had a quick question as to if assassination rouges were lego dependent for damage? As some spec are heavily dependent on them

[balmy condor]

It definitely helps, but it is a lot less legendary dependant than most from my experience. Shoulder/wrist/boots are BiS for most people, however helm is my BiS on my rogue. The talent ring isn't complete shit, insignia of ravenholdt is good, a lot of viable options

[worthy thistle]

Not rly but dont expect to rank 100 without at least top 4 legos

[balmy condor]

^

BiS will always be BiS, but the margin between legos for sin isn't as large as for other specs

[zealous dew]

don't expect high parses without 15% pb

[balmy condor]

Mantle vanish on PB proc in m+ lul

[strange python]

Well I'm still extreamly new to rouge so i don't know alot about the class yet still a lot to learn but thanks for the info I'm having a lot of fun playing the class right now

[worthy thistle]

Double PB during shoulders in raids fpr 10 mil st burst is the best feelinh

In the opener that is

[balmy condor]

<---- helm/boots equipped for single target

feels bad

[worthy thistle]

Helm dansgame

<--got bracers as last lego yday feelsgood goinh for rank 1 all bosses next clear

[balmy condor]

sims like 10k higher and performs better in practice for me too

off-helm is garbage

[zealous dew]

😄

[dense yew]

just about to try Mythic Coven - is there anything I should be saving Cloak for especially?

[zealous dew]

i'd rather be benched than doing that shitshow 😃

[dense yew]

yeah it's gonna be painful. We have a very melee-heavy comp

wasn't there some guide for rogues in Antorus somewhere?

[old sphinx]

up in the description

[dense yew]

ah - nm found it. Was getting redirected to herodamage

[exotic glen]

Probably save cloak if you get caught by the storm aoe

[balmy condor]

yeah cloaks the oh fuck button

[exotic glen]

For that situation i mean

[vocal roost]

isnt that almost instakilling anyway in mythic?

[exotic glen]

No

[dense yew]

ramps up over time right?

[balmy condor]

not iirc

flat damage super high

just ticking

[dense yew]

looks like Chilled Blood or Cosmic Glare would be good, or is feint enough for those?

and just keep cloak for "oh shit"?

[balmy condor]

feint doesn't work on chilled blood

the damage reduction and heal from vial is good enough for the chilled blood

cloak on chilled blood only if you're outranging a healer and its about to stun you in some bad shit

[dense yew]

so just save cloak is the general advice?

use feint/vial for everything else

[balmy condor]

you could also cloak the healdot adds when the stacks get high

that tends to be really nice for the healers spot healing

[dense yew]

I'll do that if they struggle I guess

we have a pretty solid healer group

[vocal roost]

Im checking that ravenholdt site

[balmy condor]

A1 webpage

[vocal roost]

is the bleed build played at all?

[balmy condor]

there's some people that do it

[shrewd oriole]

http://prntscr.com/idk05q

[vocal roost]

or just there for the memes

[old sphinx]

if you're super edgy

[shrewd oriole]

I love how the guy joins

and the first thing he says is "dont invite priests" LUL

[balmy condor]

bleed needs completely different stats

so you gotta all in, balls deep if you're going to go that way

[vocal roost]

thing is, is it worth to focus on bleeds over normal?

[old sphinx]

no

[balmy condor]

poison > bleed

[vocal roost]

so its a meme

[shrewd oriole]

not true

bleed build can output pretty much the same numbers on ST

lmao

[old sphinx]

its not poison > bleed

[shrewd oriole]

several people on discord play bleed

[old sphinx]

and no it's not a meme

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah, obviously there's times where bleed and poison will be equal, but if you look at any top sims, poison pulls ahead with equal gear

[old sphinx]

it's pretty viable, but poison's better cuz poison

[shrewd night]

Bleed is strong, and competetive, but its hilariously gear-dependant imo

[vocal roost]

idk like maybe its much better in a certain scenario or someshit

[shrewd oriole]

bleed is a lot worse on aoe

that's for sure

[balmy condor]

yeah

[vocal roost]

then I dont need that D:

[shrewd oriole]

but that's about it

[balmy condor]

single target can be competitive, aoe it falls behind, super gear dependant is your tldr for that

[vocal roost]

TLDR

not even bothering to try

[shrewd night]

awh shit, bleedboye icoming

[balmy condor]

lol

[jovial kite]

Bleed is on par or better in st and superior in 2-3t cleave

Loses aoe 100-0 though

[vocal roost]

Im already struggling by not spamming a single button to top aoe

[shrewd oriole]

3.4 score warrior tank, number 50 world wide

no one plays warr LUL

[balmy condor]

idk, warrior tanks aren't bad with their tier they get a silly amount of rage gen

[shrewd oriole]

they're pretty bad in m+

[balmy condor]

I've found that they can't hold aoe aggro as easy as a lot of other tanks

cause all their shit is single target or something

[vocal roost]

uh

[balmy condor]

idk don't play it

[vocal roost]

isnt revenge cone aoe

and they pretty much spam that shit

[shrewd oriole]

ye it is

[vocal roost]

that + thunderthingy

[exotic glen]

Thunder clap too

[vocal roost]

and artifact use

[shrewd oriole]

yep

[old sphinx]

wiat

is it actually called thunderclap ?

[vocal roost]

yes

[shrewd oriole]

yeah

lol

[shrewd night]

Warrior bad at aoe aggro? Are you high?

[balmy condor]

Idk, every warrior tank I've played with has had issues with aggro

[vocal roost]

since 2006 btw

[old sphinx]

[shrewd oriole]

it's been called thunderclap since vanilla

[shrewd night]

Thunderclap and revengespam

Dont need no mo'

[shrewd oriole]

Warrior Tank is bad but not because of the reasons you've described

[vocal roost]

idk my mythic group tank plays warrior and dh

[old sphinx]

bitch hold up or imma thunderclap your ass

[balmy condor]

then again, I do all my 20+ with pallies and dk's

[vocal roost]

and he's fine holding aggro

[shrewd night]

The only thing thats bad about warrior tank is magic damage mitigation omegalul

[shrewd oriole]

and utility

lol

[zealous dew]

no mass grip

no grip

no silence

[shrewd oriole]

^

[zealous dew]

no leech

[old sphinx]

btw shie, is "not even top3" not a good meme anymore ?

[vocal roost]

no aoe frisbee

[shrewd night]

Mass aoe stun on a 15 second cd 🤔

[zealous dew]

good for medivh spellreflect 😄

[shrewd oriole]

not being able to grip 🤔

[stiff ridge]

Could someone tell me why you need either 1 or 3 Master Assassin relics and having 2 <= 1 ?

[exotic glen]

Wprst part og warriors is that they are not dks

[shrewd oriole]

being more healer reliant 🤔

[exotic glen]

Steak fingers back at it

[shrewd night]

Superior on physical damage mitigation 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

go ahead

take a warrior then

[vocal roost]

I levelled one and Im not ok with it

[shrewd oriole]

dont come cry when you depleto your 25 tho

[shrewd night]

Who cares about +25s anyways

[vocal roost]

fury is aids, Im not going to tank with my group

[shrewd night]

I just need muh fifteen yo

[shrewd oriole]

?????????

who cares about 15's

you can 2 man 15's

[exotic glen]

As if anyone would inv a Warr to 25s lol

[shrewd oriole]

talking about 15's is a waste of time

[shrewd night]

You can technically solo it

It just takes tons of time

[shrewd oriole]

you can 2 man it in time

lol

[vocal roost]

hey, people are selling "15 rushes" depleting keys

[old sphinx]

wait

[vocal roost]

so if you can do that, go for it :^)

[shrewd oriole]

kek

[old sphinx]

so you're telling me there are boost groups that manage to deplete keys ?

[vocal roost]

boosted monkeys

[shrewd oriole]

that's sad

[shrewd night]

Ofc

[vocal roost]

would be the proper name

[shrewd night]

Bad people will take money to do anything

[vocal roost]

I mean, its a bunch of bad 950 geared people

[old sphinx]

i'm not even mad, that's impressive

[vocal roost]

rushing a barely levelled guy for 100k

[shrewd night]

They are boosting you to a fifteen, noone said they wouldnt deplete it. You still get your cache 🤔

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

950?

you can easily boost 15's at 950

sounds like a player skill issue lul

[shrewd night]

Not if you're bad

[vocal roost]

I was invited to one of these "rushes"

I got 20k at the end

[shrewd oriole]

cant do anything if u're bad

[vocal roost]

but holy shit did we wipe a lot

[shrewd night]

Judging by my previous guilds and LFR

You can shitloads wihle being bad

[shrewd oriole]

that's

depressing

lul

[vocal roost]

I mean, healer affix week

[old sphinx]

[vocal roost]

healer had brain damage

cant help much

[shrewd night]

Although, bad is incredibly relative. At least coming from me who will say anyone dpswhoring is bad.

[vocal roost]

its a fucking 15, drool over your keyboard almost hitting 1M and you wont deplete it

but please dont stand in fire

[shrewd oriole]

^^

requirements for 15: have a brain

oh wait

scratch that

[shrewd night]

I have to start gearing my tankawarrior again. Havent touched it since EN mythic

[old sphinx]

I mean I can understand how you dont do 20+ in time at times, but man 15's, that's just hurtful

[shrewd oriole]

dont.

[lucid carbon]

When we’ve boosted +15 er let the pleb just stand afk at the start

[shrewd oriole]

gear a dk a pala or a DH you'll be better off

[vocal roost]

funny thing is

[exotic glen]

You just alienated half the wow playerbase tom by saying have a brain

[vocal roost]

the guy getting boosted yesterday

on his 900~ toon

[shrewd night]

My DK isnt alliance

[vocal roost]

died fewer times than the fucking healer

[shrewd oriole]

ew allaince

[old sphinx]

I thought Rogue is a Belf only thing

🤔

[shrewd night]

I already have a ~970 guardian druid on horde, but need a tank on alliance as well

[vocal roost]

lightforged pally with a beard

get invited to any key cause ur beautiful

I dont play ally but if I ever have to, that's my class

[old sphinx]

dude , hoofes , they have hooves, I can't take that srsly

[shrewd night]

How is lightforged draenei a class 🤔

[vocal roost]

pally

cant you fucking read m8

[shrewd night]

How is reading a useful skill

[vocal roost]

that's how you deplete 15

[shrewd night]

Did a meme run yesterday. Two shadowpriests, my undergeared monk for EoA+16

Didnt deplete

Worked out surprisingly well

[vocal roost]

Im sometimes tempted to pick up a low geared dps in our runs just to let him get an item in the chest

[shrewd night]

I brought the damage on aoe packs, but GOD I have sexy stuns.

[old sphinx]

I mean I take s Priests over a second melee anytime, but normally Boomi or lock are just ( ugh why ) better

[vocal roost]

we only take locks on maw runs now

because apparently that's the only brain damaged caster that can group on 2nd boss

[zealous dew]

shadowpriest in M+

nice joke

[shrewd night]

Would take shadowpriests over you Shantal

[nova pagoda]

^

[old sphinx]

but srsly, i hope locks get nerfed into oblivion, I'm so fuckin sick of seeing these mofos everwhere .... BABYRAGE

[zealous dew]

sure, if you wanna deplete keys 😃

[vocal roost]

thing is there's not that many lock players

[old sphinx]

what

[vocal roost]

for how fucking retarded the spec is

you'd expect a lot more

[shrewd night]

Lock had just as little representation as rogues in terms of players

[vocal roost]

I think getting depressed while playing

isnt fun

[old sphinx]

yeah sure, only every player ought to have a lock alt now ...

[vocal roost]

I mean, Im levelling every char to 110 while the invasion bug works

and lock is the last one in priority rn

[shrewd night]

I used to play lock, it turned braindead after I rerolled. I took it a a sign.

[old sphinx]

<--- Shantal rn

[vocal roost]

hmm

just missing mage lock and druid

I might have an addiction problem.

[devout jolt]

Quick question, how important is ilvl on relics? I was passed for a Mythic TF relic with rup damage as I have one with MAlc and MAss but only 910

[shrewd night]

Unless it crucibles perfectly, relics ilevel is nothing to care about

[crystal fox]

@vocal roost what invasion bug?

[shrewd night]

And why would you want rupture damage?

Although, sim to be sure 🤷

[devout jolt]

@shrewd night thank you. I though so. I didnt really want in, GL asked if i really needed as it was 65ilvl upgrade

[vocal roost]

@crystal fox get to lvl 10 -> learn engineering -> Wormhole generator: Argus, die into an invasion point -> find a safe spot -> end invasion, enjoy free xp -> repeat until 110

[devout jolt]

but explained that i had 2 dope traits as it is

[crystal fox]

@vocal roost how fast is this?

[vocal roost]

20-32 in a bit under 3 hours so far on my mage

and its pretty much afk.

just need to jump to other group when the boss die

Its slower than getting someone to rush you a dungeon

but you can do it while working/we

[crystal fox]

i see

[vocal roost]

if you tag mobs they yield xp too

but you must survive the boss dying to get the completion xp so it can be dangerous

if you are a healer just shield/hot some dude and run

you can get up to 10% per run in invasion point: sangua healing people

also if you have a 100+ alter and do a greater invasion point this way you might get loot

[hardy pewter]

10% per run? doesnt sound like its worth the trouble at all

[vocal roost]

are you kidding me

I mean, that's at higher lvls

at lvl 20 or so 5 afk runs = lvl

[worthy thistle]

@devout jolt definitely sim it, I personally got a dps increase off a 965 up from 945 relic yday which was an upgrade even tho the lower one had Malch which is bis and the 965 one rupture dmg

[quick ice]

shounds gross

[vocal roost]

@hardy pewter I need 85k to lvl, getting 12k per completion (you get more xp the higher lvl u are too)

[devout jolt]

ty @worthy thistle our MT got the relic in the end which is ok

[placid dawn]

Guys, i cant find the ncl strings on herodamage, where are they?

[shrewd night]

...They are right there

Im looking at them right now

[placid dawn]

im blind apparently, fuck me

[old sphinx]

Maybe Blind ?

[shrewd night]

I know you're a rogue and shit

But you're supposed to cast blind on the ENEMY, not yourself

[shrewd oriole]

AHHHHHHHH

TILTED

[placid dawn]

ah, now i found them, fucking hell

[shrewd oriole]

doing a 25 vault

had a lock

do

2m overall dps

????????????????

[old sphinx]

Who TF invented cucumber 🤢 Hunt him down

[shrewd oriole]

he pulled jailor with pet too

fucking

tilted

😡

[zealous dew]

😄

[shrewd night]

Stop bringing Shantal then

Problem: Solved

[shrewd oriole]

stunned spiders inside sanguine

[zealous dew]

shantal doesn't play lock in 25

[shrewd night]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[zealous dew]

no gear

[shrewd oriole]

it was just like

[shrewd night]

wat

[shrewd oriole]

QUESTION MARK

[shrewd night]

This is why wow doesnt have voice chat like Hots does

[frozen pecan]

what did mark say?

[shrewd night]

Imagine tom going all WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST DO?

[shrewd oriole]

nah

I dont rage on voice chat

I just sigh

[shrewd night]

Thats more toxic than raging tbh

[shrewd oriole]

yday a boomie friend of mine didnt outrage the dude on arcway

I just opened my mic and did a long sigh

[old sphinx]

wth is wrong with you 😂 How is raging less toxic than sighiing

[shrewd oriole]

nahr aging is more toxic

[shrewd night]

Go into a raid and have everybody collectively sigh when people fuck up

[shrewd oriole]

101%

[shrewd night]

They would want you to rage at them instead

💯

[old sphinx]

haha I'm laughing so hard cuz I can actually Hear my guild sighing in my head and it triggers me hard 😂

[shrewd night]

Morale from sighing -> 0%. Morale from raging -> about 5%

[old sphinx]

pfhahahaha do a case study on it

[shrewd oriole]

hero damage has multi target relic sims now

thats pretty pogchamp

http://prntscr.com/idko7s

I found out how to log on coven boys

[shrewd night]

🤔

[old sphinx]

I mean why tho that's really obvious 😂

[shrewd oriole]

for sub it aint as obvious but yeah for assa it's pretty obvious

[old sphinx]

Ah Sub is irrellevant

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

: (

in raids sure but that's why aoe matters

cuz you only do m+ with sub

[old sphinx]

nyeh - Assa in m+ for me cuz pb likes me

always top 3

[shrewd oriole]

top 3 in m+

hmmmm

HMMMMMMM

[old sphinx]

no pb is top 3 in my damage sources

But I meab yeah I'm not wrong even in your interpretation

[shrewd oriole]

that's exactly what I meant

[jovial kite]

@shrewd oriole that works only if your tanks arent sperglords

referring to pk coven

Also thats full fok

Bb would be highest in boots insignia combo

[shrewd oriole]

true to both statements

[nimble basin]

do I save toxic blade for kingsbane or pop on cd?

[exotic glen]

Om cd

On

[nimble basin]

mmk

[warm geode]

not a rogue question but idk whre to ask, someone know how to make a aura , when gets off cd ( vendetta as example ) show for litlle secs growing in the middle of the window to alert the is off cd, like on the marks set up for varimathras ? or i need to make another aura for that?

[old sphinx]

ask in general channel

[crystal fox]

yaaarr me mateys,raise your rapiers

[exotic glen]

Get out

[crystal fox]

never

i'm a poison pirate

[exotic glen]

Toxic

[crystal fox]

🥄

[jovial kite]

👉 get out

👇 bottom of the charts is that way

👺

[crystal fox]

but you're my snusbro

[strange python]

Is vanishing once you get a PB proc viable?

Or ignore it and just go 5 cp+envenom

[old sphinx]

usually I do vanish on cd ... so I wouldnt keep it for pb procs ...

[strange python]

do you delay for vendetta?

Just looking for ways to get out some more damage

[exotic glen]

It should line up with vanish tb

Or almost at least

[worthy urchin]

what is best for PvE toxic or bleed?

[viscid helm]

Neither

[plucky gale]

outlaw

[exotic glen]

Rerolling to monk

[plucky gale]

^

[viscid helm]

Speed > bleed=poison

[worthy urchin]

you a monk lol

[prime void]

just play a ffi

[gaunt moat]

@worthy urchin toxic blade

[exotic glen]

Did you see pur kilo mizuxe?

Our

Kill

[prime void]

i couldnt find a vod

[exotic glen]

This fucking phone i swear

Just search pur guild om YouTube then

Pure, uploader is naled torty

Named

Fuck me

[worthy urchin]

@gaunt moat ty m8

[shrewd night]

Pure

Please tell me its the Turalyon giuld

It is!

[exotic glen]

U wanna have a fucking go mate

[shrewd night]

No salt breh

Yall declined my app some years ago

[exotic glen]

Feelsbad

LOL

Puffin holy shit

Her trial was sometjing else

[shrewd night]

Do tell

[exotic glen]

Ye sec

She got accepted as shaman healer, Raider as that for a month

Went on holiday for 2 months, didnt wanna play healer anymore, rerolled rogue start og legion

Raided for 2 weeks, then ledt pretty much

[shrewd night]

Yall should have accepted me instead then

Although, that would explain why I stopped seeing her outside the Helya raid

[exotic glen]

We accepted her request to reroll rogue om the condition she got less raidtime at the Starr, her rogue wasnt geared

And she ledt because she didnt raid enough?

[shrewd night]

🤔

[jovial kite]

Top 3 management

[shrewd night]

Top 3 trial if anything

[prime void]

good shit @exotic glen just finished watching it

we should kill him this week

here's hopping at least

[viscid helm]

Me to

[shrewd night]

Ill be happy if we get coven down

[jovial kite]

coven is easy

our 2nd raidgroup who raid 2x 3h a week got it down on 13 pulls

[viscid helm]

2k18 and guilds still have multiple raid groups?

[jovial kite]

yeah dont ask 🤷🏽

[shrewd oriole]

a friend's guild does it as well

disposition

I find it odd but lol

[viscid helm]

Seems dumb

[cerulean depot]

That feel when all bosses except argus fell down in single or double digits amount of pulls

[viscid helm]

Whats the benefit

[shrewd oriole]

none

it's just two guilds under the same name

[viscid helm]

To many autists to deal with for my taste

[shrewd night]

@cerulean depot Grats?

[cerulean depot]

Two teams is rookie numbers. Guy I know raids in guild with 4 teams

[fathom wyvern]

“Too many autism’s.” Welcome to wow

*autists

Maybe I’m autistic too.....

[viscid helm]

No

[cerulean depot]

They also have "high council", consisting of people who don't raid, but for some reason make decisions regarding raid team roster.

[shrewd night]

Read the guide.

Poison

[arctic lake]

https://www.wowprogress.com/

pretty ez to look at rankings and conclude who was the best.
But honestly it's pretty subjective.

[shrewd night]

Its not when he is a freshly dinged character

[arctic lake]

fair
/shrug

[shrewd night]

...

Read the guide.

[old sphinx]

Yes, that's why you read the guide

[shrewd night]

If you are in assassination channel asking questions, Im going to assume you are interested in assassination. Therefore, read the guide.

[lilac light]

Just got sin lego boots, anygood?

[old sphinx]

yes

[shrewd night]

Sim yourself.

[old sphinx]

any lego is good compared to not having any at all

[unreal coyote]

interetsing all these abilities that were weapon dmg based are turning attack power based

[shrewd night]

Thunderfury 🤔

[unreal coyote]

in the latest bfa build

[arctic lake]

Can we talk about how OP leech pois is on vari

because my healing parse looks clean

[prime void]

Disc priest op

[shrewd night]

How much of it is overhealing?

[arctic lake]

I'm not sure who put to use leech pois on the general antorus tricks guide

but it helped my casual guild a lot

[jovial kite]

@cerulean depot
They also have "high council", consisting of people who don't raid, but for some reason make decisions regarding raid team roster.

thats the most retarded thing i ever heard

[unreal coyote]

wut

[cerulean depot]

I suspect th e guild is just an affront for a death cult

[jovial kite]

in finland we call people like these paskantärkeä

dont know how to translate in english

[arctic lake]

40.71% on mine, 38% on the other rogues @shrewd night

[jovial kite]

but thats just retarded

[arctic lake]

so bad, but could be worse TM

[shrewd night]

Huh, actually useful! Though using a rune to respec between those fights

[arctic lake]

I agree

we were trying to figure out what we could do to help out in the fight yesterday before raid, two of our four healers were out with the flu. Came across that little trick

[jovial kite]

@arctic lake do you step marks

[arctic lake]

Was so dank 🙏

yes

Both rogues do currently, so we can cloak it off so healers can have an easier time

Not sure if it is right or wrong, but I know the fight isn't my best.

[jovial kite]

not saying leech isnt worth but if you need it your healers probably arent the best

[arctic lake]

They're dog.

But its a casual guild with IRL friends

[worthy thistle]

Psure leeching wont heal u with misery anyways

[jovial kite]

it wont

[cerulean depot]

Only thing leech will heal is auras

[arctic lake]

I just know that I can only do what I can and can't really rely on anyone else. 😛

[worthy thistle]

Then why use it on vari he does no dmg anyways outside of mark 🤔

[arctic lake]

What's the better option? At least leech pois heals the auras. Cheat death does nothing because if you die in that fight anyways its because someone killed you with the plague. Same with feint

[worthy thistle]

But tbf leeching is bae on most bosses anyways

[arctic lake]

it is sweet.

[jovial kite]

havent needed it since m guldan

[quick ice]

leeching on m-guldan ❤

[prime void]

How is cheat death not bae :0

[cerulean depot]

Leech is arguably better on argus too since cheat death does.not reset on death there

[prime void]

The pad potential os real

[worthy thistle]

Started playing in antorus again after quitting from tov helya G disband lul

[jovial kite]

you arent supposed to die anyways

[worthy thistle]

But u dont rly need CD in any fight in antorus

[jovial kite]

but if you do

cheat death saves your pull

[prime void]

^

Cheat op

[jovial kite]

plust

plus

the fight last around 11 minutes for most guilds

so it has time to reset

talking of m guldan though
https://gyazo.com/00c55dc1402f710858afba8f50a66e49

healed myself more than any of our healers

[worthy thistle]

55k hps as rogue lul

[jovial kite]

i was in a new guild and i died in the fight, asked why i dont recieve heals, got the usual ''we dont heal you any less than any other player''

i was like k if thats how you fucking suck

https://gyazo.com/22550c6ba361aed92faf2d7042c8c2c0

heres our other rogue

fuck the healers

sideways

with a pitchfork

didnt stay long in that shit guild anyways

[worthy thistle]

Best part would be if he procced his CD and u didnt even run it

[jovial kite]

i didnt run cd

[arctic lake]

Not to throw off the convo, but is there any good rogue video makers/streamers that play sin

[jovial kite]

they went silent after i showed them these graphs

[prime void]

I play sin and stream

[arctic lake]

Watching pyllero rn on lunch to try to catch something I'm missing

[prime void]

Just starting though

[worthy thistle]

Y which means u never died but he wouldn't if he didn't run it 🤦

He would've*

[hardy pewter]

pyllero likes to make a lot of shit up watch out

[arctic lake]

fair enough

[dire spoke]

👀

[toxic sorrel]

!wa

[strange python]

I was reading on the guide that wrists and boots simd the best but I always hear mantle is the best Legendary

[manic vigil]

[strange python]

I'm just a little confused

Is it just preference

[signal summit]

Depends on offpieces etc

They are close

So sim urself and see

[strange python]

Should I be aiming for a haste soft cap at all? Or just avoid it if possible. Thanks

[viscid helm]

for the hard cap ideally

which is 0

[strange python]

Ahh ty ❤

[manic vigil]

answered by flowi himself

I'm so jealous

[exotic glen]

@prime void haha, did you see our ele sham die in the first 5 seconds of the fight

he has like 10 attempts total on the boss when we killed it, one of our sps couldnt raid so he had to come

[strange python]

What is the Sim command

[prime void]

Yeah haha, i heard the rl talking about it @exotic glen

[exotic glen]

did you like the strat tho

much better than what you were doing imo

or is this the same strat you were saying you wanted to go with from the start?

[lapis jungle]

Which m+ drops the best relics?

[strange python]

Kharazhan

Upper

[exotic glen]

cathedral is good as well

[strange python]

Eye of Command is good

[lapis jungle]

thanks

[strange python]

Drops from the last boss

[exotic glen]

eye of command*

[lapis jungle]

Well I'm not doing regular mythics. Gonna do m+

So that doesnt really matter

[strange python]

Lol

[restive inlet]

@arctic lake Check out Infexious Gaming on youtube/twitch. He's mainly an assassination rogue that makes pretty good content

[strange python]

[viscid helm]

🥄

[arctic lake]

I've been watching him but he doesn't really do a lot of gameplay on YT

maybe better on twitch

Just need to watch people do fights, helps me a lot better than reading.

[exotic glen]

you can just type in "x boss rogue pov" in youtube

[manic vigil]

EoC best relic confirmed

[strange python]

I mean it's good

[midnight latch]

@viscid helm🍍

[hardy pewter]

you dont really learn much watching people play

[viscid helm]

stop tagging me you idiot

[hardy pewter]

unless they explain in commentary

[jovial kite]

[midnight latch]

@viscid helm ok

[jovial kite]

get fokt naya

[manic vigil]

[exotic glen]

@midnight latch 🍺

[jovial kite]

@midnight latch

[midnight latch]

👌

[keen inlet]

[manic vigil]

Don alive

[keen inlet]

yuh, took a west coast road trip

not to derail this fascinating, on topic discussion

[midnight latch]

wb @keen inlet

[manic vigil]

WB indeed

[exotic glen]

white bread

[manic vigil]

[strange python]

[quick talon]

🍆

[strange python]

[manic vigil]

Is broadsides still muted btw

[exotic glen]

did he get muted?

why

[manic vigil]

Sure did

[exotic glen]

what he do

[manic vigil]

Because he said something inappropriate to notter

[viscid helm]

he did nothing wrong

[exotic glen]

lmfao

[quick talon]

Classic

[manic vigil]

Yeah he just can't help it

Quite entertaining of course

[exotic glen]

gibe

[midnight latch]

the tease

[crystal fox]

i want 😦

[lone junco]

After I get a solid EoC, pretty sure my rogue is done for the expac.

[old quartz]

with a high ilvl EoC, say 960, would multi-dotting still take effect if you lose the crit proc when swapping? or better to focus on ST and fok as needed to enable crit of DP?

[exotic glen]

there are ways to dot another target without auto attacking it, which wont drop your stacks

some people have macros to do it for you

[quick talon]

Mouseover macros

[manic vigil]

[lone junco]

(which totally shouldnt work)

[exotic glen]

ye those

[manic vigil]

Yeah rogues op because of it

Oh wait

[rain urchin]

does Garothi take DoT damage while he's in cannon phase?

in other words should I prioritize refreshing bleeds before 65% and the other phase health threshold

[lone junco]

I sure hope so lol

I have logs that could tell. but im a bit busy

[rain urchin]

sure, just hoped someone had that knowledge on hand

[shrewd night]

I can hit him with FoK while doing cannons

So uh

[rain urchin]

I don't play with damage numbers lol, didn't know FoK did damage to hm like that

[lone junco]

q is whether it is dampened or not.

[shrewd night]

Its not

[rain urchin]

sure, like kin'garoth or aggramar I guess

ok

was just looking at dot uptimes on my garothi logs

[shrewd night]

Regardless if its dampened or not youd put up dots for energy

[rain urchin]

I feel like my bleeds are always up while he isn't in cannon phase so the only thng that should change my uptime would be whether or not I refreshed before going into that phase

[manic vigil]

Noobe too busy to analyze logs. That's it boiz

The world is gonna end

[rain urchin]

lol

[exotic glen]

simming his char to post on discord > analyzing logs

so expect some bleed sims i guess

[cerulean aspen]

what's funny is

with mouseover macros

you can env a different target, but your poison bomb will drop on your active target

even if they're behind you

[shrewd night]

@rain urchin refreshing rupture before he goes into phase is like securing you stable energy to the point where you can near spam mut

[rain urchin]

yeah, I see that now, thank you

would you not want to fok though, at least while 2 cannons are up?

if, as you say, FoK also hits the boss itself

[shrewd night]

Thats what I do

[rain urchin]

cool

I'll keep this stuff in mind for our next M farm

thanks for the response

[shrewd night]

Lets see for how long this time haHAA

[fair rain]

@supple hearth

👺

[manic vigil]

Tumna is back

Yay

[gaunt moat]

😥

[fair rain]

Yeah notter

Get rekt

🗡

[keen inlet]

hmmm

[fair rain]

@keen inlet don’t you have a baby to take care of.

[keen inlet]

No

still 5-ish months off broh

[manic vigil]

[fair rain]

👶

[lone junco]

people lol about log review, but I get more mythic raiders dming me for review than scrubbys.

👌

[fair rain]

@lone junco

I did heroic for the first time ever wanna roast me

Eonar I didn’t even attack anything

[manic vigil]

No laughing at you at all noobe

[lone junco]

cause "sim urself" is a bullshit answer

[manic vigil]

I think it's awesome

[fair rain]

I stood at the top and afk’d

[keen inlet]

I'll disagree and say that sim yourself is an honest answer, but it's not an exhaustive one

[gaunt moat]

I had people on mythic argus asking me to look at their logs..
like... i didn't even kill that boss myself.

[fair rain]

😂

[keen inlet]

and nobody is entitled to log reviews--just as nobody here is expected to do them. If you're doing them, you're going above and beyond for the community, which is really good

and I, if not "we," thank you for that

[manic vigil]

We are just busting your balls because you do it a lot. I'd love to have your skills and dedication when it comes to analyzing logs @lone junco

[fair rain]

Noobe was always my right hand man always helped if needed he is the goat 🐐

Prob most helpful person here imo

[keen inlet]

since becoming shadowblade I've had to learn and experiment a lot more with weird builds/scenarios to field the questions that get DM'd my way. It's pretty time-consuming

I enjoy doing log reviews but a meme/🥄 takes me 5 seconds, actual log review etc is dependent on my workday 😛

[gaunt moat]

i just tell people that DM that i don't do log reviews.
otherwise i'd be doing them non-stop :S

and that they can ask in this channel

[fair rain]

Selfish

🍿

[gaunt moat]

some people are shy

you're right tumna, i'll send them your way

[foggy beacon]

I reviewed logs for a rogue back in M kJ when I was on Avatar, I was surprised that I was actually able to help him

[fair rain]

I’m just getting my feet wet again

[gaunt moat]

since you're not selfish

[fair rain]

Let me get situated

Then sure

I never really minded it tbh

[gaunt moat]

If you want your log reviewd please contact @fair rain

[fair rain]

Sure

[quick talon]

Tumna

Hi

[fair rain]

@quick talon 👋🏼

[quick talon]

Hows life going

[fair rain]

I’m at work right now waiting for my work phone to get service so I can send an email

[quick talon]

E-Mail as in

Dick pics to your co-workers?

[fair rain]

No unfortunately

Who is this

[jovial kite]

[fair rain]

Oh

It’s @strange python

[jovial kite]

if you got questions regarding opener, message @midnight latch

pin this too please notter

[quick talon]

Creative trolling

[gaunt moat]

I'm not gonna troll people... i'm a respectful mod.

ya know?

have to be responsible.

unless it's tumna.

[unreal coyote]

whats happening here?

[fair rain]

I’m reformed

[unreal coyote]

oh god Tumna...

[fair rain]

@gaunt moat

Considering I’m back to the game

[gaunt moat]

you're back in the game at the end of expansion? are you a stupid not smart person?

[fair rain]

Btw send me your weak auras

[quick talon]

Might get banned

[fair rain]

I deleted all mine

[vernal adder]

smart

[fair rain]

@gaunt moat aren’t you not allowed to say stupid ?

[unreal coyote]

could just say tumna instead

💯

[fair rain]

Well I need to level my allied races for heritage armor

[vernal adder]

all of them?

[fair rain]

Just the horde

I’ll just power level them lol

[jovial kite]

sorry for the fin meme

but ijust have to

https://gyazo.com/e4084c1e5ed956e888bdae4d732537fe

[gaunt moat]

Tumna let's join the same guild

[fair rain]

Come to NA

[gaunt moat]

come to EU

[vernal adder]

ei hel

[jovial kite]

@warm parcel

[zealous dew]

meet in the middle of the ocean

[fair rain]

@gaunt moat no NA

[zealous dew]

problem solved

[manic vigil]

@jovial kite I don't get it

[fair rain]

At least you can live without worrying about missles everyday @gaunt moat

[strange python]

You dont even recognice me

[fair rain]

i did after

[unreal coyote]

what are missles?

[jovial kite]

pajari means weed in finnish

[fair rain]

Wait I thought @unreal coyote got banned

[jovial kite]

aamu pajari means morning spliff

[crystal fox]

lul

[unreal coyote]

i am legion mother fucker

[jovial kite]

pajari is a basic finnish last name

[strange python]

🤔

[jovial kite]

and aamu = morning which is a typical girls name

[vernal adder]

"typical"

[jovial kite]

well i know like 3 aamu's

[vernal adder]

mitäs aamu aamulla

[strange python]

Same

[vernal adder]

med dina lår

[manic vigil]

[fair rain]

ENGLISH ONLY

[strange python]

@gaunt moat help

I feel left out

[vernal adder]

varjoloikka 😂

[jovial kite]

Hejssan alla! Jag heter Slootbaggen och i dagets program äter vi bacon och proteinbitar

[fair rain]

@keen inlet

[keen inlet]

How am I supposed to stop their superior language and socialist paradise power

[jovial kite]

^

this tbh

[strange python]

Ban

[keen inlet]

That would be like Krillin vs Android 21

[jovial kite]

he cant

[strange python]

Time out

Kick

🤔

[manic vigil]

Are you the infamous shadowstep who used to have a naked tattooed grill as an avatar and left us to be a DH btw

[strange python]

Yes

No

[jovial kite]

dh main btw

[manic vigil]

[keen inlet]

tbf

it would be really challenging

to play rogue

they have like

[strange python]

NOT DH

[keen inlet]

2 more buttons than DH

[jovial kite]

[strange python]

I did play DH for a bit on horde

But my raid needed me

Stop 😦

[warm parcel]

smh @jovial kite

[keen inlet]

I'm Shadowblade Don Jose, and I approve those emoji

[warm parcel]

also strum in 50

gotta cook first

[vernal adder]

wow self advertisement

ban yourself

[keen inlet]

strum

[warm parcel]

xd

[manic vigil]

Too soon weak still at work

[warm parcel]

imagine not having a day off today

[strange python]

Im 22 in 7 days

[keen inlet]

I don't 😦

[vernal adder]

cool

[fair rain]

Child

[strange python]

Old man

[fair rain]

@keen inlet I feel ya

[jovial kite]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU @warm parcel 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽 🖕🏽

[fair rain]

We are so old

[warm parcel]

😘

[jovial kite]

6-16 everyday this week

but friday off

[fair rain]

:0

[strange python]

So not every day

[vernal adder]

whole next week off

[strange python]

Fake news

[crystal fox]

my brain hasnt even entered deep sleep when the clock is 6

[vernal adder]

so you go to bed at 4

[midnight latch]

👀

[jovial kite]

naya

you havent slept at all have you

[crystal fox]

naya will camstream today, if naya wants a follow

[unreal coyote]

did naya get alpha?

what kind of world is this

[crystal fox]

i think i have wasted my chances with alphas and betas, i never report any feedback

[keen inlet]

trust me

[unreal coyote]

beta should be pretty easy to get in

[keen inlet]

it has nothing to do with feedback

[unreal coyote]

if youve made decent progress this expac

no it really doesnt

my friend who has not been subbed since nh

got alpha

its all who you know

[keen inlet]

it's

1. friends, family
2. streamers, social content-ers
3. highly progressed accounts

if any of those groups happen to make feedback it's a coincidence

[crystal fox]

my account has been active since early 2005, havnt been in any alpha, only like 2-3 betas,

[keen inlet]

but honestly, they ignore so much of it, so many bugs go live

etc

[vernal adder]

reported a quest in legion beta, was slightly bugged on live still

[urban storm]

Any tips for optimal cloak usage to sssist on bridge phases on mythic imonar?

[vernal adder]

depends what other people take

[crystal fox]

feint and take mines

[unreal coyote]

couldnt tell yu didnt have to help with that

cloak doesnt stop the effect i dont think tho does it?

so youll still need dispelled on the stun circles yeah?

[crystal fox]

nope

[urban storm]

Last night was first night of pulls, we got to like 42ish percent once

[unreal coyote]

tbh you should worry about doing much of that

[crystal fox]

cloak dont work

[unreal coyote]

just be clean crossing over

[urban storm]

Cloak doesn’t prevent the stun I don’t think

[vernal adder]

ye dont take stun

[urban storm]

Yea it’s super easy because melee doesn’t get that denuff

[unreal coyote]

your tanks should be clearing the path maybe a few people doing stun curcles

[crystal fox]

our rogues used feint and took a mine each

[urban storm]

I can take one stun because I’m human

[unreal coyote]

yeah you can do that

bridge is hardest b0s

[urban storm]

But we have tanks doing that I think. Just wanted to see if there’s anything I could do@to make it easier

Cuz it’s obviously very easy for us to get across with sprint feint cloak

[crystal fox]

well the more people who help clear mines the faster the group will pass

[urban storm]

True

I suspect we will be on this boss for a bit

But end of p3 on first night doesn’t seem terrible. I’ve heard 4th platform is rough though

[cerulean aspen]

if you figure out the first two platforms then there aren't any new mechanics for the rest of the fight

and there aren't really any difficult overlaps that i remember

[plain thistle]

well, on the 4th you can get sleep + beam , but I dont think its hard

[fair rain]

Whoops

[shrewd night]

How long until Tumna gets muted/banned again

Taking bets

[vernal adder]

Tumna is a good boi

[fair rain]

I hit the wrong copy pasta

I’m reformed anyway

[tranquil birch]

🍿

[midnight latch]

same clown different day

gonna be banned today

my bet

[fair rain]

@midnight latch what do you wanna get?

Bet*?

[midnight latch]

yup

[fair rain]

Or so

[midnight latch]

k dude

[fair rain]

No me and giggle are cool

[strange python]

@urban storm we got to the last phase on our first night on him as well. Then it took us 70 more wipes for the first kill. Imonar is shit for our shit guild, because individual mistakes fucked us over.
People exploding melee mines on everyone on 2nd platform, people explodimg the ships on the whole raid on 2nd platform, people sleeeping the melee camps, nobody getting dispelled on the bridge, palas not having bop ready for the crossing.

All of that and more after 130 wipes still every week.

[fair rain]

Wait I just realized the ghost eyes are the pb thing

@midnight latch

[midnight latch]

well congratulations

[gaunt moat]

giggle quit though

[midnight latch]

🤔

what

this notter guy

#notrust

[manic vigil]

@gaunt moat

[keen inlet]

🤡

[shrewd notch]

we had over twice as many wipes on high command as we had on imonar 🤔

[unreal coyote]

dudewat

[midnight latch]

mines hard to dodge

[shrewd notch]

^

mines, bats not dying fast enough, people stunning the raid, etc

we caught on with imonar way faster

shrug

[midnight latch]

its the combination

doing damage and mechanics rip

doing damage and than doing bridge

way more easy

ecks dee

[shrewd notch]

i think that's a lot of it haha

also

as RL it's easier to call imonar

stack here, do this, move there

it's macro stuff

high command everything's happening at once

[fast nacelle]

[midnight latch]

[manic vigil]

Tyra the boss dwarf

[fickle pond]

[warm parcel]

We live bois

[keen inlet]

we

in

it

[manic vigil]

And I can't watch

[frigid acorn]

can someone tell me the pandemic times on rupture and garrote?

cant find them on guide rn

[cerulean aspen]

debuff time * 0.3

[strange python]

when tf should i refresh garrote/rupture? At like 0,x seconds or at like 3 or something?

it is truly humanities greatest mystery

[shrewd night]

if only there was a guide to answer these questions

we would solve the great mysteries of the universe

This is why humanity is surpassed by dolphins

[strange python]

" After Opener: The most important thing for your rotation is keeping both Rupture and Garrote up at least 95% uptime." 🤔

I know I should keep it up as much as I can, but it doesn't say when I ought to refresh the dot

[keen inlet]

Depends on whether it's nightstalker or not, as well

@frigid lagoon I love the person you choose to be

my ❤

[wise frigate]

Don lives! How was business trip?

[keen inlet]

hah that was two weeks ago.

but it was good, exhausting

this vacation was pretty great, a lot of driving tho

[quick talon]

What car did you drive

[astral latch]

hey new assasination rogue. i have no idea how to use weakauras or what to even use with it

[unreal coyote]

check dem pins son

theres a guide linked at the top of the channel as well

[strange python]

weakauras just make things easier. like displaying dot timers in an easy to see place in the center of your screen.

instead of having to squint at nameplates

and there are some weakauras that provide things that game doesn't do directly, like tracking how many stacks of kingsbane you are getting per cast.

[lone junco]

I use WA to clearly show the duration of Rupture on current target. to show buff duration of things like envenom etc.

[unreal coyote]

devlin has a nice set of WAs

[lone junco]

there are a lot of optional things, but NS overrides are really important to not clip.

[strange python]

I like Notters, but I heavily adjusted the location/size/font/etc

[keen inlet]

@quick talon we rented an SUV, they gave us a Ford Edge. I hate to admit it but it wasn't bad

[strange python]

also was a good opportunity to learn how to even make your own wa

[keen inlet]

wanted something we could sleep in the back in if the weather was shite (it wasn't)

[quick talon]

living on the edge

[keen inlet]

thing was yuge, terrible turning radius

[old sphinx]

can someone explain why duskwalkers has overtaken Bracers ? did they change something with vendetta or did they nerf bracers? or is that just the case for me?

[shrewd oriole]

His are too small for me

The only one I use from Notter is the PB

@old sphinx off