#assassination

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dire spoke
jagged geyser
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Also is there a certain point when we stop going for Mastery / crit ? ๐Ÿ˜› cause im at 145% mastery and 35% crit atm

gilded lark
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those are both low numbers fam

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well, the crit isn't bad

manic vigil
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you stop when you deal so much damage that you rupture the fabric of reality

gilded lark
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under 200% mast LUL

manic vigil
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I have 175% mastery with boots/bracers t20 2p FeelsBadMan

shrewd oriole
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I cant watch this outlaw stream anymore

solemn vapor
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i'm at 185% 28%

shrewd oriole
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I'm getting bored just watching

dire spoke
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ye XD

solemn vapor
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should i priorize mast or crit ?

manic vigil
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ikr tom xD

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same here

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and I always watch sloot but this is ZzzzZZZ

shrewd oriole
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imma go make some food

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hopefully when I come back he'll be on sub

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LUL

dire spoke
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he didn't do sub yet?

manic vigil
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sounds like a plan

shrewd oriole
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nope

dire spoke
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oh neat

shrewd oriole
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he did assa (which he said he quite liked)

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doing OL now which he's only half way through the dungeon and is already calling it poopy

dire spoke
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I'm watching too

shrewd oriole
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I mean you dont need to be a genius to see how bad Ol is

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Saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

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fucking kill me

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guess what

manic vigil
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xd

shrewd oriole
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your cooldown?

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lets you saber slash saber slash run through

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MORE OFTEN!

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜‚

dire spoke
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I mean

shrewd oriole
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saber slash saber slash slice and dice
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
v

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leaked outlaw API

manic vigil
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how does RtB help tho

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it doesn't

shrewd oriole
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sometimes he has to do

dire spoke
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the RtB buff reduced killing spree aswell

shrewd oriole
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three saber slashes

dire spoke
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that would be a way

shrewd oriole
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: )

dire spoke
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to aoe

manic vigil
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xd

shrewd oriole
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KS only aoes

manic vigil
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outlul best spec

shrewd oriole
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with blade flurry

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so that doesnt solve the issue

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again

dire spoke
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oh right LOL

shrewd oriole
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saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through
saber slash saber slash run through

manic vigil
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I'll work on improving mine immediately

shrewd oriole
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saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

dire spoke
shrewd oriole
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saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

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saber slash saber slash run through

manic vigil
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oh wait I'd rather kms

shrewd oriole
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I'm so tilted

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why does blizzard ruin specs

manic vigil
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combat was so awesome

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and now we have this

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great!

dire spoke
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go eat a schnitzel Tom ๐Ÿ‘‹

shrewd oriole
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gonna get banned from OL channel

manic vigil
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oh you are a bad boi

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I like it

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I love how sloot shits on outlul ๐Ÿ˜„

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played it for 5mins

shrewd oriole
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saber slash saber slash run through

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜‚

shrewd oriole
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how can u not

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shit on that

solemn vapor
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any big changes for ass ?

shrewd oriole
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outlaw is fucking garbage

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Yeah

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assa looks dope

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mastery affects bleeds, PB is now a talent, has 4% proc chance per cp

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CT is back

hazy iron
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thank fuck for CT

shrewd oriole
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that's it pretty much

hazy iron
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PB can suck a doodle

shrewd oriole
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nah PB procs super often now

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20% chance mate

manic vigil
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idk about that

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yeah PB is the way to go

hazy iron
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as opposed to reliable AoE

shrewd oriole
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"reliable"

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yeah

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reliable shit dps

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xd

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜„

hazy iron
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its almost as if you think alpha is final

shrewd oriole
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random good dps or reliable shit dps

hazy iron
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the concept behind CT outweighs PB by a fuck tonne

manic vigil
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that's fair

shrewd oriole
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that goes both ways mate

manic vigil
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still, CT will have to be good to make you skip pbomb I guess

hazy iron
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20% chance is still only a 1 in 5 chance to do AoE, as apposed to an actual skill, m80

shrewd oriole
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Dont forget CT is useless on ST

manic vigil
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and that yeah

hazy iron
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well, yeah thats true

shrewd oriole
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so even if CT is ebtter on aoe you might still take PB because it's decent on both

manic vigil
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that seems problematic idk

hazy iron
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but you'd just swap it out for ST / AoE fights

hazy iron
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n1

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

shrewd oriole
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for raids sure, still think the concept of CT is bad for raids tho

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adds hardly ever live enough in aoe fights for a meleedot to be good

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things like moonfire are good because they are spread aoe, CT still suffers from range issues

dire spoke
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does otl has no stun aswell anymore?

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like the ranged shot

shrewd oriole
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it has it yeah

dire spoke
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oh yeah there

shrewd oriole
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it's his nr 5 binding

dire spoke
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nvmd

shrewd oriole
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dont think you use it on ST w/o bracers

dire spoke
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lol

shrewd oriole
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it does like

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half the damage of a run through

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but quadruple baseline damage on crit

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instead of double

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but that simply means that on crits it does the same damage as a run through crit

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2 x 2 = 4, 1 x 4 = 4

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oh no sloot is gonna stay outlaw : (

hazy iron
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oh well, good on him, obviously enjoying it

merry root
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watch him getting even more pissed

shrewd oriole
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no

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he said he hated it LUL

dire spoke
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he's going sub next dungeon

merry root
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and change from vigor to DS lul

manic vigil
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obviously yes Kappa

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xD

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he fucking hates it

shrewd oriole
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he's gonna legit fall asleep

hazy iron
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oh you meant stay outlaw for the run, right

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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now he's already talking about subaru

dire spoke
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hahah

shrewd oriole
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"thats a better suggestion, sack outlaw"

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after playing it for like 20 minutes

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fucking

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OMEGA

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LUL

dire spoke
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nooo, no shadowstep xD

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has a fucking hook

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mythic raider pfft

hazy iron
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has he played mut yet?

dire spoke
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yes

lone junco
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Outlaw was nice early because of the stats from the bones. Our gear way out scales the bones now.

manic vigil
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well, it makes sense that they would tone down outlul's immense aoe prowess right

lone junco
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So prob good for leveling.

manic vigil
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it's obviously way op

shrewd oriole
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Yeah man

manic vigil
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oh wait

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Kappa

dire spoke
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did anyone see if trueB reduces blade flurry?

fiery nest
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what's an average to above average amount of KB stacks to reach?

manic vigil
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I'm dying here ๐Ÿ˜‚

dire spoke
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XD

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the eye cam man

manic vigil
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that was smooth af

dire spoke
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lmao

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he should use flurry on ST aswell imo

manic vigil
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he noticed me ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

dire spoke
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๐Ÿ˜„

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you're famous now

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gz

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omg it does NOT reduce blade flurry CD ...

manic vigil
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implying I wasn't famous already

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wtf

dire spoke
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or? I can't see it well

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didn't see the CD jump

manic vigil
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I don't know I'm busy laughing about sloot having so much fun ๐Ÿ˜‚

hazy iron
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no way flurry makes it to live the way it is currently\

turbid harbor
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outlaw btw

manic vigil
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yeah let's make outlul even worse

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good plan blizzard

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wtf I mean

lone junco
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Bladeflurry is 10s?

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Saw that you can't just /on

dire spoke
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ye and TrueB doesn't recude it's CD

lone junco
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Is Ld still a thing or just back to getting fucked?

manic vigil
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LD is a talent now

strange python
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we need no wpn dmg in the future ? ๐Ÿ˜›

merry root
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which Sloot hasnt used so far

lone junco
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I guess there are some cases where I didn't care about bones.

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Solo leveling. Lol

fiery nest
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LD is a talent on the same tier as SnD ๐Ÿ˜‚

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gj blozzard

solar fog
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rip

dire spoke
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he noticed me heHEE

merry root
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your next mission is make sloot use LD

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gogo

manic vigil
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no more outlul

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before he actually jumps out the friggin window

lone junco
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That makes sense.

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Is slootbag still competitive? Or did they fold

devout forge
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still going to sim...but sugestions on best combo with leggo shoulders...helm ..soouls of the shadowblade or ravenholdt insignia?

strange python
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allrounder should be souls mantle

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ah

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helm

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crown mantle is fine

dire spoke
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since when are ppl on alphas?

exotic glen
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2 days ago i think

dire spoke
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@shrewd oriole

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sub

rancid silo
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did every class get nerfed or just rogues?

gilded lark
rancid silo
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Poison Bomb Envenom and Rupture have a 4% chance per combo point spent to smash a vial of poison at the target's location, creating a pool of acidic death that deals [*75.6% [59% of Attack Power] Nature damage over 3 sec to all enemies within it. Assassination Rogue - Level 100 Talent.
Toxic Blade Stab your enemy with a toxic poisoned blade, dealing (272% of weapon damage [84.32% of Attack Power) Nature damage. The damage of your poisons against the target is increased by 30% for 9 sec. Awards 1 combo points. Assassination Rogue - Level 90 Talent. 20 Energy. Melee range. Instant.

gilded lark
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those are alpha notes.

turbid oxide
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it appears that they reduced the attack power scaling of every AP scaling skill

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and changed wep damage skills to scale with AP

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judging from the data mined notes

merry root
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"not gonna do deeper strat until we see what the energy is like" he's gonna have fun

solar fog
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that find weakness nostalgia

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and dispatch

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we're getting back to MoP

manic vigil
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I miss some serious changes. Looks almost the same so far

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boring

dire spoke
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well they prepped all the class fantasies with legion

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like, it is reworked and now they need to bake artifact into regular specs

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what else do you want then

spare cloud
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More Poison

dire spoke
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spoon off tophi ๐Ÿ‘บ

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๐Ÿ˜„ hey

spare cloud
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wow

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ok bb

dire spoke
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lol

manic vigil
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zempai super toxic DansGame

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idk what I want

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not the same shit

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because ded class you know

dire spoke
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๐Ÿ‘‹ bye uni

spare cloud
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You will be alone one day if you tell everyone to go

manic vigil
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๐Ÿ˜„

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flowi keeps saying ded class

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and flowi knows

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you know

spare cloud
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isn't he yellow

manic vigil
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yeah but sarcastically

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that makes it cool

spare cloud
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what a troll

manic vigil
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weSmart

spare cloud
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Ok

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I'm sarcastically going bleed then

manic vigil
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my fucking phone is stuck in the loading screen shit again.- are you kidding me with this shit

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I have to wipe it every month

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too much porn? ๐Ÿค”

dire spoke
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tom still afk ๐Ÿ‘บ

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has bnet on phone

spare cloud
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I fucked my sleep schedule again

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

manic vigil
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you'll be fine

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just fix it if you have to ๐Ÿคท

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๐Ÿ˜

quick ice
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drugs help

spare cloud
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at least my m+ score is slowly increasing

dire spoke
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I fell asleep on 2pm while door went ding dong, I was like nah fuck that whatever it is

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lol

quick ice
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I find its usually the postman when I do that, and then I have to go collect my package from the post office ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

spare cloud
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almost happened to me today

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was in the shower then the dude with my pc parts came

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lucky someone else was there

tough lantern
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nightstalker rupture or tb w/o shoulders?

quick ice
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rupture

tough lantern
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kk ty

spare cloud
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wait

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rupture or tb? did something change recently?

gilded lark
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no it was just a dumb question

tough lantern
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sorry i don't normally play tb ๐Ÿ˜ฆ i'm an exsang scrub

prime void
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i mean

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which do you think is going to do more dmg

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Just use your head xD

manic vigil
gilded lark
jagged geyser
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Oh btw bois is it worth going Nightborne for assa?

supple hearth
dire spoke
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racial sims are in pins, but keep in mind it's still early

spare cloud
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So many Qwestions

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but all are answered by ๐Ÿ“Œ

gilded lark
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gotta keep up the AMR answers

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pins

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sim yourself

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kys

dire spoke
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TB on CD

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why isn't details baked in the game yet

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need to see where sloot stands

exotic glen
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tbh, if people didnt ask questions that could be answered in pins, this would pretty much be #off-topic

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its rare that people discuss assa in depth as far as i've seen

dire spoke
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90% in here aren't capable of doing that anyway ) :

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including me LUL

manic vigil
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rude

lone junco
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๐Ÿ‘บ

dire spoke
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it's 1500 capable I think you're safe noobe

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h3h3

manic vigil
solemn vapor
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Define "in depth" arg

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As in simulations and such?

exotic glen
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pretty much anything that cant be answered in pins is what i meant

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related to assa

dire spoke
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you mean like, what is pandemic? pepeLUL

exotic glen
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quality question

manic vigil
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noobe is like randomly talking about in-depth sin shit all day peepostudy

dire spoke
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noobe is actually just using this chat for his thoughts

manic vigil
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yeah LUL

exotic glen
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linking your 30th sim of the day is not really sparking much discussion

dire spoke
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we are sitting here like MonkaWot cool dude

solemn vapor
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Well, if pretty much all the questions about ass can be asnwered in pins then i think this chat is doing a good job

exotic glen
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right, but what purpose would this chat even serve then

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might as well disable it

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but yeah, pins are doing a huge job, and its really well done

manic vigil
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woooow

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are you the AMR snitch cmonBruh

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we hang out here

exotic glen
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unimatrix, this is the 3rd time you have talked to me in the last 95 hours, i am reporting you for harrassment

manic vigil
exotic glen
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prepare to get buttfucked in prison

manic vigil
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just how I like it JeBaited

solemn vapor
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To discuss how beautiful ass is maybe?

grim canopy
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anyone find a video of sin in bfa yet

exotic glen
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slootbag was playing sin earlier on stream

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otherwise, i havent seen any

solemn vapor
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Cuz we are roleplaying

grim canopy
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ok thanks

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ill check his channel

solemn vapor
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Have you ever seen an assassin stream their job?

dire spoke
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he's live on sub rn

solemn vapor
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Neither have I

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Get it?

grim canopy
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is crimson tempest good

solemn vapor
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Ok, now i will let myself out

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๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜‰

dire spoke
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idk, is the weather in 2020 good ?

grim canopy
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i mean in alpha

manic vigil
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sloot likes it pogchamp

grim canopy
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cool

exotic glen
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"dont wanna be associated with those filthy outlaw rogues"

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same, sloot

dire spoke
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sloot likes it, must be gud

manic vigil
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I meant sub btw, not CT

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Idk if he tried that or not

dire spoke
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oh

grim canopy
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lame sub is gay

exotic glen
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i dont like the idea of an aoe finisher with a dot

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it always happens that either the initial hit or the dot is just so fucking useless that it makes that component not even worth thinking about

solar fog
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Does ct proc venomous wounds?

dire spoke
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imagine ct proc pb

exotic glen
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proc chance on every mob hit

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wait, arent those on the same talent tier

dire spoke
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lol

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you have to

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โœ‹ believe โœ‹

exotic glen
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i got fucking bamboozled

jagged geyser
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If im at 4 CP do i Envenom or do another Mutilate to get 5CP Envenom out ?

exotic glen
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envenom

jagged geyser
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Alright.

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Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

dire spoke
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lol

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yep reporting hits keyboard randomly

manic vigil
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where's my kojiyama in-depth alpha stream btw thonk

exotic glen
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maybe didnt get an invite

manic vigil
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wow those experts in sloot's chat kappa

hazy iron
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lol wtf is he on about re: nightstalker

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what a dunce

exotic glen
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i wasnt watching

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what did they say

manic vigil
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whatever. I feel like playing sub now tho PogChamp

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it's been a while. let's go gachiGASM

solar fog
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My sub wep still 58

glacial copper
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are gloves/shoulder the set pieces you dont use?

grim canopy
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i wanna make a new rogue is worgen good

glacial copper
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cuz i just got 965 socket mastery crit gloves

exotic glen
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sim the best combination that will work out for you with the gear you have

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iirc yes, gloves are the usual off pieces

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and shoulders being a legendary

glacial copper
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yeah i got that part too

coarse blaze
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Is there a place that shows the new alliedraces simmed?

exotic glen
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yeah, the pins

coarse blaze
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I don't see the break down

exotic glen
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the first pin literally says its on herodamage

coarse blaze
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I'm sorry, not fimiliar with herodamage

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ah I found it

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thanks

exotic glen
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np

onyx rock
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Frรถhliche Weihnachten

manic vigil
fiery nest
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so my main is sub, 970 ilvl, level 80 artifact, ilvl 1005 artifact with two 980 ilvl double BiS relics, sims for 2.19m. building an assass OS for mythic argus, it's currently 966 ilvl, level 68 artifact, ilvl 959 artifact with random ass relics and it sims for 1.92m LOL

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scaling btw ๐Ÿ‘Œ

onyx falcon
rain urchin
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nasty

dire spoke
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not 985

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crap

vapid moth
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^lol

regal cape
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did someone say 985

vapid moth
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has 920

regal cape
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give me a sec

dire spoke
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!mute @regal cape

fiery nest
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nobody cares about sub

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garbage scaling

regal cape
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its sin

dire spoke
regal cape
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there you are

vapid moth
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Lol

fiery nest
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cool

vapid moth
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Serrated edge

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Fucking trash

regal cape
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:v)

fiery nest
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garb

regal cape
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bonus roll H Argus memed me

fiery nest
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u dont need anything to be good on assass

vapid moth
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You have 2 MA relics. Like really donโ€™t show us your relic set again

fiery nest
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i have a level 68 arti on my assass OS with random ass relics and it sims 150k less than my 1005 ilvl sub weapon with double 980 ilvl bis relics

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its a joke

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nice scaling

onyx falcon
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I have 2 945 MAlch/MoS/Mass and 1 930 MAlch/MI/Mass

regal cape
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@dire spoke Gottem hehe XD haHAA ForeHead

dire spoke
vapid moth
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I have all the top relic traits cept for the tier 2 lines

regal cape
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Refractive Memes

gilded lark
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refractive shell

dire spoke
regal cape
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and chaotic dark hol up

dire spoke
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before these I had 910 in it, nothing to expect

fickle pond
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hey zemapi

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zempai*

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whats that addon you have in the picture above

dire spoke
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is it coming from an addon? oh

fickle pond
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it doesnt do that when i mouse over mine hahaha

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and it looks like an addon

dire spoke
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Either CrucibleWeight or DejaCharacterStats

fickle pond
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ty

dire spoke
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idk ๐Ÿคท one of them

fiery nest
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should have both

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

regal cape
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You want to know the best meme

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Of all though?

fiery nest
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my life

regal cape
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My mythic raid caches

fiery nest
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lol

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i have a good meme too

regal cape
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2 cache two rings my spriest need

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but rogue has

fiery nest
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last night we killed imonar (coined), kin'(coined) and vari (coined). i got 3 pieces of loot! WOOT!.....or....wait. i got gloves (leggo slot), shoulders (leggo slot) and a neck from vari instead of trinket (neck has haste, useless) FUN ๐Ÿ˜„

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mythic btw

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we've seen 1 vari trinket in 16 kills

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GOOD TIMES

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NICE MEME

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90 gold tho

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worth

regal cape
fiery nest
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good vendor gear

dire spoke
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last mythic reclear 4 rolls, no item

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good day too

fiery nest
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rather get AP than shit i vendor at this point tbh

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i need ap for assass for argus

regal cape
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Been 964 ilv for like a month now, I do fine but its still a meme

static acorn
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On dogs, is it a good idea to swap between the bosses to DoT them both

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or is there too much downtime in getting into range

regal cape
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on mythic its a real bad idea

fiery nest
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yeah

regal cape
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debuff mixing can cause wipes real easily

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so risk vs gain is pretty high

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If youre careful you can

fiery nest
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you have to watch your dog debuff

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and play around it

regal cape
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just depends on how much your raid spreads on dogs,

fiery nest
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in a way

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if its normal or heroic? fuck yeah min max your ass off

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should be stacked anyways l ol

chilly laurel
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What's the concensus on the most accurate sim info on relics? See wildly diff values for both my own toon, and default sims

zenith vault
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/wa

jade raven
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boots or shoukders on argus?

chilly laurel
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I def like boots more if you can make the p1 dps check

grim canopy
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so i just wanna be sure once i get t21 and shoulders i can do aoe as rogue right

#

also what kind of game design is that =\

#

So discouraging

regal cape
#

Watchu mean

quick talon
#

You can do aoe as rogue if youโ€™re playing sub

safe matrix
#

or if you get really good PB procs

sinful jewel
#

can i something about mage tower?

safe matrix
#

I don't know

#

CAN you?

#

or the other classic

#

"you just did"

half atlas
#

If you get unlucky with mutilate generators and only get 4 combo points do you use envenom/rupture at 4 isntead of overcapping

sinful jewel
#

how can i active mage tower ๐Ÿ˜ƒ for queen challenge

#

its active now but war council not there

half atlas
#

u need to the thing at kirin tor tower

safe matrix
#

" When both bleeds are up use Envenom at 4+ combo points. Try to use Envenom right before your Envenom buff falls off." notters guide

half atlas
#

for ur spec

safe matrix
#

I'm not too sure about rupture, I think its similar case ๐Ÿคท

#

unless you're snapshotting with ns

serene hinge
#

why do we envenom with vanish/mantle instead of applying a mantle-rupture?

#

i've been doing it b/c i read teh guide but i really dont know why im doing it lol....

wise frigate
#

The guaranteed 50% stronger Envenom is worth more.

#

50% stronger + crit* Envenom

stiff flower
#

Low mastery=rupture

serene hinge
#

okay

#

thanks

dark hornet
#

Does anyone have a weakaura that makes you /say something when poison bomb procs

median shadow
#

Yeah i found it looking for assa auras on wago.io. It tells you how many bomb procs you had on the fight too

#

I can link it as soon as i get to my pc ^^

dark hornet
#

thanks! i've been looking for a while and was about to learn how to make weakauaras just to make it myself lol

exotic glen
dark hornet
#

No that one reports in chat after the encounter. What I'm looking for is something that reports in /say so that when poison bomb procs during a M+ so the tank knows to hold still if possible.

#

Thank you for looking tho Argonic!

#

oh it does actually! nice

#

Thanks!

exotic glen
#

np

median shadow
#

It does

#

That's the one

cinder skiff
#

Hi guys, returning rogue. Bleed or poison build; whats "better" atm?

#

Herodamage, sorry. Nevermind ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

tranquil birch
#

just to be clear, that wa will trigger a /s macro and alert your tank when pb drops?

wise frigate
#

Just add a Say output in the Actions tab.

tranquil birch
#

cool ty

zealous dew
#

potato tank anyway

#

will move it

dark hornet
#

just play with good players instead of bad ones

cedar hemlock
#

should i save every toxic blade for the last 9 sec of KB? or this will be a DPS loss compare to just use them on CD?

zealous dew
#

on cd

cedar hemlock
#

ok..

zealous dew
#

you can delay 1-2s tops to get into those last 9s

#

but no more

gilded lark
jovial kite
uneven fable
#

Returning to rogue, which are the stats for poison build? Ty in advance

prime void
#

pins

alpine grotto
#

Mastery-crit

zealous dew
#

Channel dead like the class

jovial kite
#

Yep

#

We ded

balmy condor
#

Who even plays this shit spec

zealous dew
#

No clue

prime void
#

people who like doing more than sub and outlaw

zealous dew
#

Can't get leg onmonk

#

Sad panda

prime void
#

i got sephuz-back-and ring

#

then i stopped playing my monk

ashen fossil
#

I got chest and head, then swapped to mistweaver

jovial kite
#

Sad fotmrerollers

ashen fossil
#

Rogue still main, always will be

balmy condor
#

Iโ€™d rather the channel be like this compared to the disaster it was during the fok bug

#

If I had to answer another โ€œis the bug fixed????โ€ I was going to hang myself

ashen fossil
#

Is it fixed?

worthy kayak
#

any top end sin available to chat for a few?

gilded lark
#

nah the mods banned all the top parsers already

worthy kayak
#

rip

strange python
#

are we being nerfed in BfA?

median shadow
#

Too soon to tell imo

strange python
#

๐Ÿ˜ข

shrewd oriole
#

@dire spoke I feel asleep kek

#

@worthy kayak sure whatcha need my dude

sharp viper
midnight latch
#

@gilded lark gratz my dude

torn coyote
#

what bug ?

shrewd oriole
#

Oh no

#

๐Ÿคฆ

zealous dew
#

nice, new bug, time to exploit

prime void
#

all the top parsers get banned

#

rip

#

Good thing my grey parses are here to cover my back

zealous dew
#

i still parse green

#

must be the spec

jovial kite
#

Parses in 2k18

#

Expansion is over

grim jay
#

channel is dead bcs I've been away for a week

#

:ยฐ)

midnight latch
#

expansion over

grim jay
#

gotta play pvp

fiery cradle
#

:^)

midnight latch
#

pvp ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

peasent vs peasent

remote lagoon
#

7

fiery merlin
#

i feel like if pvp is your thing WoW is the worst game to play for it.

#

I can't imagine how pvp players justify getting shafted by blizzard for as long as they have and haven't jumped ship to another game yet ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah lol

#

Gw2 is so much better for pvp

#

Pvpers in wow are second class citizens

drifting cloud
#

this game doesnt have pvp ๐Ÿค”

lone junco
#

๐Ÿ˜ด

calm grail
#

Was trying my hand at hitting 2k for the purple leather set.

#

For my shitty velf

strange python
grim jay
#

tbh

#

it is smh entertaining

astral sundial
#

hey, are there any good streams for assassination rogue in m+?

zealous dew
#

seliathan

#

oh ffs

grim jay
#

uhm

#

saw that

zealous dew
#

incarnated on twitch

#

stupid rule

grim jay
#

#reported

zealous dew
#

#bemyguest

fiery cradle
#

best spec for bfa??

#

๐Ÿค”

midnight latch
#

๐Ÿค”

#

shadowpriest

fiery cradle
#

fuuck

#

u rigght

midnight latch
#

๐Ÿค”

#

โค

fiery cradle
#

how does one spriest

zealous dew
#

no clue, try doing M+ as SP

#

you will probably end up crying in a corner

fiery cradle
#

i do that anyway

wraith saddle
#

noob question inc, do i want to always use 5cp on rupture ? ofc excluding the first one

gaunt moat
#

@wraith saddle i recommend you check the guide linked in the header or pins

fiery cradle
#

that works too

wraith saddle
#

i did but that isn't mentioned or i missed it

#

thx for the answer

dire spoke
#

:eyes:

gaunt moat
#

it is mentioned.

urban storm
#

pfft, like you'd know, its not like you made the guide

solemn vapor
#

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

supple hearth
#

๐Ÿค”

drowsy island
#

is it possible to make use of sepuz im bored

crystal fox
#

sub or outlol could probably

supple hearth
#

maybe outlaw......haste is so awful for both sub and sin.

Only reason sephuz was nice was the speed boost for running old dungeons but then they nerfed it so it has a gross CD instead of being able to just sap - sap - sap -sap and speed the entire way through a dungeon like old burst of speed was

main olive
#

hi there, anyone tested sub on alpha ? with find weakness

crystal fox
#

wrong channel mon

#

the ScrUBS are 2 channels down

#

๐Ÿ˜

drowsy island
#

wod sub is back :3 im happy

crystal fox
#

i cant even imagine how much i will miss my shoulders when bfa drops

steep obsidian
#

its a talent in bf

#

at least right now

#

its a bit worse though

gilded crest
#

worst part is they baked the SHIT SHOULDERS as a talent into ass

#

I hate them

#

but with 3 seconds instead of 5

spare cloud
#

rip

steep obsidian
#

they obviously havent tuned talents yet

#

but 3 secs yeh that is pretty shit

coral marlin
#

So bois, 2 legedarys left. Mantle or Prydaz. Gonna soduko if my essence give me prydaz

spare cloud
#

You'll get prydaz

coral marlin
#

jokes on you baby

spare cloud
#

Man its reverse psychology

coral marlin
#

MANTLE CLUB Eyyy

spare cloud
#

always works

coral marlin
#

FeelsGoodMan

crystal fox
#

welcome to the mantle club

terse whale
#

why does assa skill nightstalker instead of subterfuge?

#

is it such a big dps difference?

vapid moth
#

I dunno. Why does any assa player do anything

#

Garrote is weaker without t20

solemn vapor
#

NS all the way

#

๐Ÿ˜

velvet wedge
#

and I got my prydaz.... ๐Ÿคฆ

zealous dew
#

good for +26 hyrja

#

be happy

#

or xavius

#

maybe skovald is you f0k feinting

spare cloud
#

Why does anyone play with anything? What is life?

vivid palm
#

I miss burst of speed

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

Used to run my transmog runs so fast

strange python
#

so how good is our tier set?

drifting crypt
#

good

spice surge
#

The goodest

clever mural
#

Can someone explain how Sinister Circulation works?

#

its only works with melee atacks? FoK on 10+ targets doesnt decrease cd differ then in solo target situation

subtle imp
#

so on argus is it better to stick on phys add or garrote/rupture phys then shadowstep to nature on and stick?

sand flax
#

@clever mural They added an internal cd to that trait a while back, so you won't see any additional cdr on aoe

clever mural
#

@sand flax thanks

nocturne gate
vapid moth
#

@subtle imp physical ad is the one most people focus first so I just skip it

wise frigate
#

I tend to just garrote/rupture the physical add and sprint over since the nature buff won't be on it by that time.

strange python
#

Sim it

wise frigate
vapid moth
#

Sim what

strange python
#

It

vapid moth
#

Sim what

calm grail
#

Sim it

#

Check the pins

vapid moth
#

Sim what

calm grail
#

Yoself

vapid moth
#

Lol

plain thistle
#

hey you

clever cloud
#

How many stacks of Kings Bane do you guys usually get?

strange python
#

I know I should be Sub for M+, but if i'm playing assassination should I be going Toxic blade or alacrity?

midnight latch
nocturne gate
#

u really dont need haste on assa

fiery cradle
#

bro i literally sim for 5 dps

#

not literally but

#

hypothetically

#

stack haste

#

tbgh

#

tbh

#

more haste = more energy regen = more abilities = more damage

midnight latch
#

hypothetically you dont need to shower everyday. Doenst mean you shouldn't

fiery cradle
#

tell me my logic is flawed

midnight latch
#

becuase you completely disregard procs in your calculation

#

and the time the mob lives

fiery cradle
#

more haste = more attack speed = more procs

#

checkmate

midnight latch
#

yeah or no procs

fiery cradle
#

who needs rng when you have raw haste

midnight latch
#

more abilities doesnt mean you get more procs

#

it increases the "likelyhood" of you getting it

zealous dew
#

24 mos is doable ?

#

mmm

fiery cradle
#

only with 50% haste yh

#

wheres my cutiepie mich

#

@mich#8049

jovial kite
#

@fiery cradle emm

#

doesnt work like that

#

not sure if ur baiting

fiery cradle
#

biggest bait the worlds ever seen

#

tbh

strange python
#

Why do you speak about the haste dude lol

#

Haste is shit

crystal fox
#

stay away from da haste mon

wise frigate
#

๐ŸŽฃ

grim jay
#

โ™ฟ

jovial kite
#

๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฝ

grim jay
#

pulling the haste meme is like foking madonna if you could just do kindly myers all the way

#

old and dry

#

btw did I read it right that we arent allowed to meme hard anymore @zealous dew ?

rigid rain
#

Guys whats best ass or sub without any tier?

dire spoke
#

@midnight latch ๐Ÿ‘€

midnight latch
#

@dire spoke ๐Ÿ‘€

zealous dew
#

nop not allowed

#

spec dead, class dead, see you in bfa

solar fog
#

in bfa alpha without artifacts the specs feels so simple.

inner socket
#

i stacked haste as sin in wotlk, just sayin

#

only 8 years ago

#

9

plain thistle
#

but the spec is kinda simple, even with artifact ๐Ÿ˜‚

lone junco
#

take out kb and any vendett cdr, we're just holding env uptime and mashing envs into tb.

#

doubt your sim is much over 1.9m anyway.

frank spindle
#

if i dont have shoulders yet, but have bis trinkets should i just but reluinquished shoulders hoping for the leggo drop?

lone junco
#

stupid tags

#

whoever was Fromshadow.

#

your midblock vanish is trash

zealous dew
#

yeah spec is faceroll

#

anyone can parse 100

plain thistle
#

its a 3:30 fight, doesnt matter when he uses vanish, he wont get another cast, he just need to align with vendetta and other things

#

just 2 vanish casts anyway

lone junco
#

It was prob just before the 2nd hand phase.

#

delay after that blast would have been in bracer, and have cds back up.

plain thistle
#

oh yeah, he used vanish on CD there, delay would have been better

lone junco
#

yeah. People fire vanish off without cooldowns. = bad

#

ive dumped vendetta going into arms a few times.

#

extreme sad face.

strange python
#

tryhard for logs

#

get no PB procs

#

Oh boy

#

this spec

fiery cradle
#

oh boy

autumn trench
#

oof

strange python
#

Is it worth to vanish when PB procs btw?

toxic burrow
#

970 Sullied Seal of the Pantheon drops from heroic Argus. Rogue 1 has a 915 Band of Rescinded Truths from Maiden and a 915 crit/mastery ring. Rogue 2 has a 940 Sullied Seal of the Pantheon with a socket and a 930 ring. Lootmaster mentions the ring would be a huge upgrade for Rogue 1 over voice and asks Rogue 2 to reconsider since he beat Rogue 1's roll by 2. Ring goes to Rogue 2 as a 1% upgrade for him and he says his sims haven't changed. Ugh...

merry root
#

??? loot by rolls ???

#

feelsbadman

zealous dew
#

rogue with 915 rings ?

#

what kind of game are you playing

toxic burrow
#

Pretty much. The guildmaster and another officer are apathetic when it comes to handling loot. Loot would normally be handled by an officer that thinks about these things but he was absent that night, and our former officer that was our Lootmaster would evaluate folks and had the last say over who gets it since he wasn't lazy. This outcome was pure shit.

zealous dew
#

farm M+

#

base is 940 there

#

lazy rogues

toxic burrow
#

I farm M+. I can show you a number of useless doilies they have given me. I can not show you a single decent ring however.

lone junco
#

Lootmasters. Lol

merry root
#

Loot council is a little annoying when you farm m+, but some people in your group only log in for raid

distant oracle
#

How is 2set TOS + 4set atbt? with bracers and boots even tho i have shoulders?

lone junco
#

Our system is pretty great.

zealous dew
#

2+4 is great

#

i only play that

lone junco
#

@merry root yeah that's pretty shit. "Well since he hasn't even tried, and his dps is shit. Let's get him this 970TF

distant oracle
#

@zealous dew what items from tos do u have?

lone junco
#

Shoulder glove is ideal.

distant oracle
#

@lone junco assa btw

merry root
#

what do you run in your guild, Noobe?

#

what loot system

zealous dew
#

930 gloves + shoulders

toxic burrow
#

Eh.

modest zodiac
#

Iron Wire will cause garrote to silence for 8 SECONDS?

runic crescent
#

is boots+bracers plus 2/4 actually simming higher?

zealous dew
#

it's a close call, depends on offpieces

grim jay
#

lootcouncil > everything else

#

:ยฐ)

runic crescent
#

eh if it's that close who cares

zealous dew
#

it's QoL

runic crescent
#

I'd rather have the extra stam

zealous dew
#

on 2+ targets is a dps gain

#

and you don't have to study the theory of chaos when you have to vanish or not

timid plume
#

bonus roll on Dogs ye for trinket?

toxic burrow
#

Generally they are. Spoke with the guildmaster about it afterwards and he wasn't happy with the turnout. The other dude took his headphones off and wasn't listening. We compete and perform well in every fight so it's not like either of us are slacking.

spare narwhal
#

when did master assassin relics take over master alch relics?

grim jay
#

your mate is slacking as a person

#

which is worse

#

๐Ÿ˜„

toxic burrow
#

That's... Honestly how quite a few of us feel.

#

Would have been a gain of 1400 mastery to his 200.

grim jay
#

well I mean

zealous dew
#

man, run M+

grim jay
#

a lootmaster is bad

#

a lootcouncil is what you want

#

for that reason

#

@zealous dew you know how annoying it can get farming for one item tho

zealous dew
#

base is 940

#

2-3 runs and he gets it

toxic burrow
#

When did I say that I wasn't running M+s? I do, i just can't replace the slots I'd like, haha.

Edited a typo. *

zealous dew
#

not farming for tf

grim jay
#

everyone would have a EoC 940 then

#

most didnt see one above 910

#

I need 30+ runs to get items to even drop once mostly ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous dew
#

i gave away so many eoc

#

in the last weeks

#

940 but still 940

#

just go with 4 guildies

#

+15 is a joke

grim jay
#

it sure is, but still

crystal fox
#

still havnt even seen eoc drop for anyone in my groups

grim jay
#

I farmed for 960 EoC

#

took me 80-ish runs

#

to get a 955 with socket

toxic burrow
#

As for the lootcouncil thing, we used to have that in place. Somewhere along the lines the officers got lazy, especially after they spurned the officer that had the greatest involvement in the the council and he left. It's a mess sometimes.

zealous dew
#

this season i've done: 1216 M+

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

haha

grim jay
#

all together

#

I'm on that roughly aswell

#

๐Ÿ˜„

zealous dew
#

speaking of rings, got 960+s twisted bark from dht last night

#

lost 2% mastery, gained 3% crit

toxic burrow
#

I can say that my alt is the not-so-proud owner of a 985 Crit-mastery ring. As a Mistweaver. So that kind of hurts, haha.

grim jay
#

I got my rings off of the weekly chest btw

#

๐Ÿ˜„

dire remnant
#

hey guys

#

on coven am i supposed to keep rupture on both sisters constantly?

#

for norm/hero

zealous dew
#

yeah

#

and ask potato tanks to tank 18yrds

#

and not 200

dire remnant
#

who do i choose to garrote in these scenarios

#

im not runing t20 2p

#

do i just garrote whoever on cd

zealous dew
#

garrote one, rupture on both

#

if they close you can fok to build cp

dire remnant
#

how do you apply your poison to the other?

#

do you just let an auto attack go off

#

or do you use energy to muti

stark heart
#

You ask tanks nicely to keep bosses close and fok

zealous dew
#

or PK the far one

mild dawn
#

Hey guys I want to ask couple of questions about some of the situations I am faceing during my rotation. But I dont want to spam here. So any1 have like 10-15 mins to discuss privately ?

solemn vapor
#

I got 960 fang and 945 eoc. I simmed myself and they were pratically equals, as far as dps goes. My question is, is there situations that eoc is prefered over fang or the other way around?

#

Sorry if this is a pinned question

fast depot
#

If you're changing targets a lot EoC loses some value

vernal rain
#

So whats the deal with assasination aoe? Just fok and rupture everything and hope for pb proc?

timid plume
#

Do I envenom during vanish when I got 2 set t21?

#

or only when I got leggo shoulders

vapid moth
#

i feel so fucking disrespected

#

queueing for a heroic Aggy. dude requires 960. AOTC. and good logs. i have all 3 and whisper him and he says "looking for CC" sorry like what kinda fucking dumbass are you

zealous dew
#

you have CC as well ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

vapid moth
#

i know. thats what im saying

#

but i coudlnt even tell him that cuase when i tried to whisper it saif "could not fine ___"

static acorn
#

How much energy does venomous wounds exactly give if they die with rupture?

#

is there a formula?

zealous dew
#

should be the energy left returned by that rupture

vapid moth
#

rupture ticks every 2 or 3 seconds i forget

zealous dew
#

2

vapid moth
#

so divide the number of sec remaining by 2 then multiply by 3 for the enegery

static acorn
#

oh so its the remaining energy you woulda gotten from the passive ticking stuff?

vapid moth
#

yes

static acorn
#

is it given in full or at a reduced quantity

vapid moth
#

in full i think

zealous dew
#

just go on a world mob and rupture kill it and check the log

vapid moth
#

gets told what to CC

#

I CC it

#

someone doesnt CC theirs

zealous dew
#

๐Ÿ˜„

vapid moth
#

everyone blames me

zealous dew
#

ofc

#

you're a rogue

#

you just tunnel boss

vapid moth
#

even when the boss is shielded yup

zealous dew
#

yeah

spare cloud
#

rude

vapid moth
#

now the dude is assigning CC to 3 rogues

#

pugs are hell man

grim jay
#

balance of power on twinks

#

that is hell

mystic osprey
#

You canโ€™t sap those adds right? Just blind?

rotund pier
#

u can't sap when you're in combat...

mystic osprey
#

so the answer is yes

civic palm
#

In reality, sap and blind are bad crowd control.

dreamy fiber
#

So, I copypastad the string for NC from herodamage. Can anyone explain the numbers in each trait for me ๐Ÿ˜ฆ 17.71 6:5.38 7:6.3)

#

Seperately, it doesnt tell me master assasin is the choice, even though it is massively on the charts

#

Instead it suggests balanced blades

grim jay
#

well maybe its your second MA

dreamy fiber
#

Uhm, I wasn't aware it has diminishing returns

grim jay
#

the second is like

#

nothing

#

as far as sims go

#

the third is much again

dreamy fiber
#

right, thanks for the help.

#

Does that carry on for 4/5/6

#

or

#

actually u cant stack in one relic

#

Thanks for answering dude โค

nocturne gate
#

is the prio for garrote dropped ? or how could it be that someone have 95+ logs with under 90% uptime

grim jay
#

that actually was for 5/6/7

#

im just talking about relics

#

the 6 is worth nothing simwise

gaunt moat
#

Dr.Runsen maybe if you link the log we could see

grim jay
#

dunno how you managed to link that other guy

#

๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt moat
#

discord sometimes goes crazy

nocturne gate
#

the rank 1 on garothi

#

i dont com over 70 on my logs and im looking currntly why but i dont found my problems

tranquil birch
#

975 god damn

#

do your other guild members get any loot?

nocturne gate
#

its the rank 1 rogue i dont know him ๐Ÿ˜„

orchid cove
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maybe because you are only like 20ilev under him

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and your relics are pretty bad and no skill bomb procs

nocturne gate
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so i have to be lucky with bomb proccs for better logs?

strange python
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maybe iam late

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but

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fok sake

hazy iron
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oh man

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we haste now, bois

strange python
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the increase is still very low

hazy iron
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sephuz BiS

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kappa

grim jay
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well its free

hazy iron
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yeah but at least it means haste isnt compleeeetly useless

grim jay
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so gotta take it

hazy iron
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like, i currently have 8% haste

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which is gross ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

strange python
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we need to wait until bfa

hazy iron
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yeah, i can't wait, i need BfA now

grim canopy
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speaking of which anyone know streamers who have extensively tried sin

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i see all those noobs on warlock right now

vernal adder
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at sinning? Dr Disrespect

grim canopy
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lol

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Im going full rogue for bfa very fun. I was a lock main for like 20 years but that shit got boring

main blaze
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HASTE BUILD YUS

grim canopy
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and these artifact dagger skins are so awesome, and we can use them in bfa

vernal adder
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haste and mastery

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uh idk, since we prolly take dispatch for st anyway

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too early too early

gaunt moat
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we still have no idea what the artifact trait will be

vernal adder
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1% proc chance to pb

autumn quartz
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So, who is joining the troll master race in BFA now? ๐Ÿคฃ

vernal adder
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yes sir

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hope the racials are nice

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but whatever

gilded lark
vernal adder
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wasnt arcane torrent cd increased to like 2.5min cd?

gilded lark
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Jesus it's coming true

grim canopy
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i want to be a brown orc rogue

civic palm
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3min originally IIRC

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and given the recent Dispatch nerfs I don't see it beating MP/PBomb even in single target without some more DMG nerfs on PBomb. > _>

dire remnant
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whats the proper strat on heroic argus?

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in terms of rupturing adds

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vs focusing the poison addd

civic palm
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garrote and rupture physical add, move to poison add and get rup up before vulnerabilities are active.

zealous dew
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lulz poison & bleed are haste affected

civic palm
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Yeah and I actually don't like it.

exotic glen
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why not

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you'd think haste not being a dead stat would be good

civic palm
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Because having four good stats makes everything bad.

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haste impacting DoT cycling also makes agility better, which seems fine, but now our stats are going to end up like Ret last tier.

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Where everything is fine and nothing stands out.

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remember that we're losing Mantle as well, so you need monsterous crit to make up for it.

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and that mastery influences bleeds now, so mastery is even better (though the ratio was nerfed)

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and vers. still influences DoTs so it's still good.