or give some CD reduction
#assassination
drowsy island
solar fog
maybe haste can affect venomous wounds' energy or something
lone junco
I don't mind a dead stat.
I do mind if mastery sucks.
They literally just make it up for that spec specifically
drowsy island
mastery should also affect bleeds too
mental aurora
It will in BfA
drowsy island
i never got to enjoy bleed build im sad
haughty harness
Both would be nice.
warm parcel
mastery affects bleeds
mental aurora
Last i checked they’re lowering the damage boost but making it apply to both poisons and bleeds
haughty harness
having a poison and bleed spec
haughty harness
Why divide Rogues when you can unite them!
stark heart
Ct is AoE and exsang is st
lone junco
12s. To 6 is not great. But will give you something to do at 7sec.
lone junco
Sure. But st. Rupture garrote Ct exang. Still a bleed rip.
Bota still a thing?
Perfect length for Ct rip
stark heart
Bota is gone I think
lone junco
Bota is what gives exang juice.
stark heart
Uhm
lone junco
10sec over the 16
stark heart
I didn't even track bota
lone junco
Do you play exang?
lone junco
I hit 25-30M ruptures at the bracer vanish.
stark heart
Not like I was going to not press exsang if no bota
lone junco
Ish.
stark heart
So no reason to even track
lone junco
I disagree.
2p20 is cheap rupture.
Doubles chances
I'm not saying to run 3 or 4 extra prior to the vanish. But 1 for sure.
drowsy island
i still dont know what people vanish at 30percent enveom or rupture because i keep seeing both -_
stark heart
I dislike rerolling, what you propose is essentially rerolling
So I'd not want to do that fishing 😃
lone junco
@drowsy island depends on shoulders.
drowsy island
i have shoulders
stark heart
Either way I played boot wrist
drowsy island
last week i used evenom this week i used rupture idk what to do xD
lone junco
Ns bracer potion conc at +100%. Is real deal.
quaint urchin
Hey guys, whats more inportant... Keeping up rupture or envenom during kinsbane? Sometimes i get into a awkward spot where i have to choose between the two.
lone junco
Worth an extra garrote (need that anyway) rupture.
stark heart
You pray for 4 cp mutilate
lone junco
Nah. I exang with 6cp only
stark heart
It wasn't for you noobe
lone junco
Ah
stark heart
@quaint urchin also it's fine to rupture and trigger sot for last 4 seconds of kb
lone junco
Spec is smooth. Sometimes glorious. Sometimes limp. But fast peaks fit around boss mechanics 👌
quaint urchin
Thanks Lorentz
stark heart
You usually should have some leftover envenom uptime and be fine
So like at 4 kb seconds left you refresh rup and cover it with sot and have say 1 second on Env left
drowsy island
is it possible to fit a evenom into opener before vanish?
quaint urchin
Is it ok to delay casting kingsbane to refresh an expiring ruptue?
lone junco
Garrote mut rupture vendetta tb Kb vanish env. (Ns shoulder).
Ish.
Plan better on the rupture. Prior to Kb. Shouldn't need to delay Kb.
quaint urchin
kk ty
drowsy island
but can you fit evenom while u still have shoulders buff
warm parcel
No you cannot physically fit more than 5 globals into 5 seconds
lone junco
You really really want the tb and Kb in the stealth shoulder.
They hit hard.
I guess hince the vendetta/ garrote opener.
stark heart
You guys should specify legos when you ask questions :))
I auto assume you play boot wrist
lone junco
I was doing vendetta garrote rupture mut mut vanish rupture exang.
Trying to use that fangx2 and conc on open.
drowsy island
yea i use shoulder bracers always i use boots on farm tho to fit a third ven'
lone junco
Isn't argus like 10mins?
stark heart
11
drowsy island
thats a tossup lol because last 30percent is ugh
and u get hero too so it like ...
lone junco
Time wurp
drowsy island
insanity
lone junco
But yeah. Rip my vanilla/bc enhance.
haughty harness
Illuminati confirmed
drowsy island
remember when you needed like 5 shamans to have a hero for each group
lone junco
I loved wind fury totem groups.
Ret ret arms arms. Come with me.
Made for pvp lols.
lol wut splat.
stark heart
I member shaman or spriest for anubarak
lone junco
Ha
lone junco
I was trying to be a spriest in aq. Before the spell damage /+heal split.
Was a damn nightmare.
crystal fox
poor noobe
lone junco
At least we got to dot stuff eventually. Cause knocking off doom = bad.
hoary copper
2H shaman in vanilla pvp made me cry. Just melted
lone junco
That makes me smile.
shadow token
i had hwl rogue in vanilla
drowsy island
im glad its gone that kinda stuff shouldnt be a thing
lone junco
My priest got fucked by rogues.
shadow token
and my daggers would one shot cloths
drowsy island
or lucky arm warriors with sword spec
shadow token
back when you had to be behind someone to backstab
crystal fox
i played feral and ret in vanilla, dont judge me
lone junco
Our warlock was killed by a naked rog.
hoary copper
I was knight lieutenant mage in vanilla. It became too much of a grind the rest of the way though wish I did
lone junco
We have a high warlord.
drowsy island
i played a hunter because i was bad and didnt know what i was doing in vanilla
lone junco
Yeah. It's fast. And coordinated.
hoary copper
Rogues made me go to resto druid in BC/WOLK when they were OP and had abolish poison
drowsy island
spent 1month in desolance and my pet ran away had to make a new char because i didnt know how to get back to stormwind
shadow token
ehh i mean it wasn't gear based on wotlk
or cata
and i was 2600 in both.. but now i am just older and i don't play enough or care to
drowsy island
arena made me salty i havent que till this day
lone junco
We couldn't keep a mage for rmp
shadow token
i remember double ARp
drowsy island
my friend got tilted by a warlock/druid ccing him and disband my team at 1990 so i didnt get my 2k
lone junco
I did a cc 2man. Hpal survival Wod.
We could HoJ trap indefinitely
Just locked the healer up for 5 mins till they quit.
hoary copper
mace stun was kinda fun
shadow token
mace stun was not kind of fun. it was retarded fun
hoary copper
Depends on what side you were on ha
lone junco
Ok. Wod turbo was fun for me.
I was enhance.
Just fucking grinding a healer to dust.
shadow token
i didn't even play mop or wod
hoary copper
Me either
drowsy island
mop was the best pvp xpac
lone junco
I skipped mop and cata.
shadow token
cata? or wotlk
drowsy island
mop was before the prune
lone junco
Went back to school for a job I can sit at and discord
shadow token
cata was prob my fav arena xpac
lone junco
Cata was when enhance could instant chain from dps and heal 5mans.
drowsy island
i kinda skip cata after getting bench in my raid for goofing off to much during raid time like first raid quit
i still never did dragon souls till this day lel
hoary copper
I raided a lot in vanilla and BC and quite a bit in wolk and petered out somewhere around cata
hoary copper
Lower isn't among my favorites
zealous dew
why can't it be eoa or vault
hoary copper
I dislike those 2 more than lower
grim canopy
hey have there been any BFA alpha videos yet of people testing assassinatin
i seen a few SV hunter ones, did no good rogues get in?
viscid helm
No, only bad players got an invite
gaunt moat
The bad rogue from memento was streaming it
grim canopy
oh ok
manic vigil
flowi 😂
glass meadow
My LEGO luck blows , so disheartening
grim canopy
yeah well at least we can get 2-3 a week now
i should be set in a month of slogging through painfully
farm invasion and shit
spark cloud
guys i neeeeeeed hellppppppppppppp
ran lfr and got a relic that's 930 gushing wound, the one i have is 910 master assassin.
civic palm
SiMiT
spark cloud
both of their tier 3 crucibles are master alchemist, but the tier 2 of the 910 is better
idk how to sim
civic palm
Probably not better considering item level does not matter too much for us.
covert crag
When i have 4 CP do i wanna use envenom or another mutilate?
civic palm
Never MUT @ 4CP. Read Guide for More Information.
covert crag
ty
viscid helm
unless Anti
civic palm
People aren't that.
viscid helm
why not
civic palm
Cuz they're not.
If someone comes in and asks about Anti then sure, but 99% of people are either DS or Vigor.
warm parcel
Have you not been around past few weeks?
civic palm
There's more for sure.
crystal fox
there we go, 960 with one lfr tier piece still equipped,it feels so dirty
crystal fox
chaos pulse is the fire isnt it?
wise frigate
Just a debuff that goes out?
pure jackal
yea isnt it meant to target tank
wise frigate
No.
pure jackal
how do i live
wise frigate
Random players.
solemn vapor
guys quick question
wise frigate
You pray your heals aren't stupid.
crystal fox
you need to be topped when fusilade runs out
pure jackal
i see
wise frigate
Or you deal with it yourself with Cloak/Feint.
crystal fox
wise frigate
solemn vapor
will do thanks
pure jackal
eoc prob sims higher single target but dont use it on target swapping situations
crystal fox
time to get my bloody eoc this week
wise frigate
Shit thanks for reminding me I have this 16 Upper to run before I forget.
pure jackal
got a 960 one a few weeks ago but gave it to a friend :/
crystal fox
eu primary?
wise frigate
Nah NA.
crystal fox
🤢
wise frigate
Florida boi
crystal fox
what's the crucible pawn thingy called?
hollow junco
\o/ orlando \o/
wise frigate
CrucibleWeight?
crystal fox
yeah
wise frigate
Ayy my brother lives down in Orlando.
crystal fox
starting to get more relics now so i should sim em
solemn vapor
!trinkets
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
crystal fox
140 queue on raidbots, guess its friday lol
crystal fox
nah, just used to like 30
wise frigate
Patron account on Raidbots best decision I've made in a while.
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
lone junco
I found a 970 haste crit ring in my bag a while back. Props up my entire haste demand for snd.
crystal fox
someone got a titanforged kingaroth ring so i kinda panicked and threw myself at him
but did not get it 😦
civic palm
30 seconds from M-Eonar kill... ~_~
crystal fox
who is this fake mizerok
civic palm
Same as the old Mizerok.
crystal fox
damn i almost popped the 2mill marker on garothi hc today
manic vigil
so much skill 👌
obsidian spire
daring gazelle
manic vigil
sim yosef
crystal fox
arctic lake
crystal fox
i'm glad i made that picture, very useful daily
manic vigil
indeed
crystal fox
https://i.gyazo.com/80460f9d3a7ffacb411ab182391f20c9.png slowly getting higher
lone junco
Good Varith. Even if it was normy. Beat your sim at least.
Gotta get better offtier gloves 😃
civic palm
Least there's an option in raid for them 😄
crystal fox
it's my 3rd raid, i dont have alot of optional items yet :p
crystal fox
@lone junco you wanna have some logs to look at for your evening entertainment?
lethal zodiac
i have a quick question about trinkets, i have a 910 mastery/agi stick, a 945 horn of valor with socket ( mastery ) and a 950 fang ( antorus 2nd boss ) and it sims kinda weird, should i use fang + horn?
spark cloud
what are your armories? i came back to the game after a solid couple months break.
arctic lake
reflexz, I suggest simming your character
civic palm
940ish probably
arctic lake
let me rephrase:
Sim it multiple times, across multiple fight types.
Patchwerk/lightmovement/cleave etc
hollow trail
crystal fox
sim best gear
hollow trail
lol
crystal fox
do you like mine giggleblush?
hollow trail
"its time to treat yo'self... to some sims, go do some god damn work already" - Sin discord, daily
spark cloud
am i the only person that's been so unlucky to STILL not have legendary shoulders? this is my main, and sure i dont get as much time to play as most, i played everyday and did emissaries and everything before i stopped for 2 months
hollow trail
Nah, its normal. blizzard is powered by tears
i didnt get bracers or boots till very last
spark cloud
seems like every rogue and their mother has shoulders except me lol
hollow trail
thats the way i felt about bracers
strange python
Got a boss question, has anyone here had their blind not work on their add, heroic aggramar?
civic palm
Nope
It's considered a spell as far as hit rate goes so there's a chance that it could have missed.
steep obsidian
the tank probably screwed up and dragged add next to it which made it immune to cc
and enrage d it
thats the only thing i can think of that could cause it
civic palm
Yeah but that's very obvious.
steep obsidian
i dont remember having my blind miss since mop on anything
i remmber mobs could dodge it back in the day
quaint dagger
Whats a "good" opener for assasin rogues? new to playing it
hollow trail
Did you cast it too soon?
Kk inb4 everyone spans you to read the pins, you should read the pins
There's a small window when the adds spawn that they are immune. It's possible you hit that gap on blind
primal tangle
Oh god I was wondering why I wasnt getting any energy in the mage tower challenge, and stupidly realized I didn't have poisons on, derp.
gaunt moat
🤖 Get a WA to remind you to apply it. you can find one on wago.io or use mine that's linked in the pins
strange python
Ah, I see. I was not aware there was only a small window of time
Are the bonuses on new teir much better for sin? cause I'm simming much higher in sub right now
I thought it was odd, I felt like it musty Havre gotten hit by something else
midnight latch
👀
gaunt moat
@midnight latch
midnight latch
@gaunt moat
spark cloud
whoa. i just got a relinquished ring token, and it turned into a 930 titanforged ring of collapsing futures with a socket and on use "deal 60,919 shadow damage to an enemy (15 sec cooldown)"
civic palm
Awful unless the stats are good and the item level is better than what you have.
spark cloud
i can just macro it in on my other abilities its fine
gaunt moat
it's vers/crit if i'm not msitaken
civic palm
Sounds right.
dire spoke
👀
gaunt moat
that's the thing, if you macro it, you would use it incorrectly
spark cloud
no haste mastery but was an improvement over the 895 i was stuck with
spark cloud
can i just click it and whatever im targeting itll hit or di i have to aim it
gaunt moat
it hits the targeted
spark cloud
okay, and its up every 15 seconds, so just use it on cd
gaunt moat
you're not listening i see
spark cloud
aight bet gimme a sec
oh i see my debuff now
i was confused for a second there
if i use it on CD it stacks more and more for a chance to go on CD for 5 minutes
so i can make a TMW and slap it right in the middle of my screen with my other tmw's for when my ebuff falls off
it isnt apart of the gcd it seems so i can literally huck it at the fucker whenever debuff falls off
gaunt moat
yes
that's why it's a pain in the ass to use it
and it's not even really that much dps gain
spark cloud
so could i potentially just ignore using it that often and just click it whenever? i mean free dps but even without that, it was an upgrade all around in stats
and has a socket
gaunt moat
or you can just macro it and use it unoptimally
i just don't like that ring cause we don't have a 30sec CD to macro it to 😛
dire spoke
are we chitchatting about nibble?
strange python
yo anyone can help me here ?
wise frigate
Just ask what you need.
civic palm
no upper kara ring
primal tangle
mage tower is a giant meme
civic palm
nibbler is ezpz
wise frigate
Don't ask if you can get help. That's why this channel exists @strange python
celest mirage
Just got a 960 Forgfiends Fabricator. (the one with the mines) Complete trash in all situations or?
strange python
@wise frigate it says I can get http://prntscr.com/icls8r
primal tangle
Forgefiends is good if you have no movement at all
primal tangle
And you get a lucky proc with vanish
celest mirage
you think I can make it work in m+?
primal tangle
If you have nothing else, sure
wise frigate
Yes you can reach that DPS. That's the point of a sim. It gives you the average DPS you can do in that gear.
celest mirage
well I have a shadow singed
gilded lark
average dps with optimal play on patchwerk*
wise frigate
True what Broad said. So most times in raid situations, you won't be that high. Simming Light Movement is your best bet to get a realistic DPS for fights like Garothi or Vari.
@strange python
strange python
@wise frigate right now that's my gear
chilly marsh
FUCK THIS RNG SHIT GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
strange python
wise frigate
haughty harness
My ilvl 954 is a lie, Light movement sim.
shrewd oriole
Ahaha
strange python
I got 970 relic redcuse the cd of vendetta is it good ?
celest mirage
vendetta cd is good yes
crystal fox
just carried another upper kara yet i keep getting declined to 9/10 +14-15 karas
i hate m+ score
crystal fox
cant really be arsed to farm m+ score before i got my eoc
dire spoke
m+ score it's an elitist shit factor
civic palm
Worse than GS ever was > _>
dire spoke
oh don't have 970 sorry no heroic LUL
crystal fox
for raiding i just slap my dig bick mythic achieve on the table and get invited but doesnt work on m+
haughty harness
It's harder to pug on M+ than getting mythic raid done with all those misconceptions people are stuck on.
dire spoke
@crystal fox yeah try that on an alt
strange python
How short does the execution phase need to be for boots to overtake wrists?
celest mirage
depends what lvl m+ your talking about really
prisma carbon
If you have mythic gear, getting a 2.5k score is not hard .
crystal fox
@dire spoke i am doing that on an alt
dire spoke
🤔 😄 lucky you
dire spoke
I don't want any score in the first place when I farm any stupid relic or trinket in one specific dungeon
celest mirage
look up zamisama
dire spoke
it's like hey, you can't do battleground without prestige 20
strange python
@celest mirage up ?
civic palm
I've a fun idea.
crystal fox
at the top of the discord window
civic palm
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
celest mirage
^^^
shrewd oriole
Idk zem
civic palm
Behold my meme!!
shrewd oriole
Doing all 15’s gets you like 2.5k or some shit
celest mirage
does crucible weights take into account your other relics when determining the score of the relic?
dire spoke
@civic palm it's to long 
shrewd oriole
But regardless, Keys are better done with friends and guildies just like any content I guess
civic palm
That's what she said WORKING ON IT
dire spoke
dire spoke
wow
civic palm
MaxBM
civic palm
That's the point, haha.
haughty harness
Hol'up
wise frigate
@celest mirage No. It's just for a rough on-the-fly estimate if you're too lazy to sim.
haughty harness
That's not a link >:U
dire spoke
@shrewd oriole I know Tom, but 15 is a joke and it's the same like wanting a high ilvl for heroic reclear which just happens because ppl are lazy comfort zone shitheads
celest mirage
gotcha
dire spoke
And I just don't want to do every 15 in new season
best thing is they want 960 for heroic and then the leader is 902 or something
🙏 that always makes me want to stab a b*tch
shrewd oriole
I guess
Dunno
I run a heroic clear every week and I always ask for 960
Guess a bit elitist of me ahah
dire spoke
Well it's different now
like 3w into content and ppl want curve
what is this
mythic or what
shrewd oriole
I meannnnn
If I was running pugs on week 3
I would also ask for aotc ahaha
There are groups for people with aotc and groups for people without idk
dire spoke
yeah it's not so bad like back in WoD
shrewd oriole
If I have an achievement or a certain ilvl I find it ok to ask for that
I don’t ask for something I don’t have I guess
shrewd oriole
What are those
supple hearth
Wish you could do that in PvP tbh
dire spoke
it adds a searching filter, like you type "Agg" you get groups that have that in title or desc
shrewd oriole
Oh that’s cool
dire spoke
*when searching for Aggramar or so
shrewd oriole
Advanced pugging ahah
dire spoke
dire spoke
sadly they have good relic and gloves
civic palm
Then stop you won't.
shrewd oriole
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah why do I have to pug coven
crystal fox
just do lfr?
crystal fox
do normal coven then :p
shrewd oriole
yeah 😦
strange python
why the hell is crown siming higher than shackles for me (with shoulders)?
crystal fox
your offpieces are crap 🤷ö
dire spoke
because stats
crystal fox
carry them
prime void
Last message I see before bed is tom in rogue discord- wake up 8 hours later, boom there's tom still 😂😂
prime void
😘
manic vigil
dats elitist tho
shrewd oriole
for context, a close friend of mine is the gm of mikepreachwow's new guild
manic vigil
😏
shrewd oriole
and he keeps getting fucking shitters applying from the stream aha
prime void
That was a good giggle 😂
manic vigil
I like the font tbh
prime void
I havent followed preach in years
tranquil birch
need to know what guild now sorry
prime void
What kind of guild is it tom?
shrewd oriole
any hungry
carry them with positivity!
fatboss is there too
it looks like a solid guild tbh but I really dislike their raid hours, the ptr being mandatory and the necessity for alts 😦
gaunt moat
You're guildless Tom?
gaunt moat
I hope i can find a guild for next expansion :x
gaunt moat
i'm thinking more top 150. but i'm also not into alts, so that's an issue.
civic palm
Top2000 US, GG. > _>
tranquil birch
top 150 us or world?
gaunt moat
world
tranquil birch
that might require alts =/
civic palm
Most of them.
haughty harness
Wow you're aiming quite close to the big leagues Notter
civic palm
Once you get high enough the number of guild demands dry up.
gaunt moat
what do you mean by big leagues?
civic palm
Top150 isn't even that high > _>
shrewd oriole
150 isnt even that high
I'm sure you can find top 150 that doesnt require alts tbh notter
gaunt moat
maybe. i'm just worried it's going to be difficult finding one cause they'll have their rosters ready.
civic palm
At this point, easily.
shrewd oriole
maybe
for this tier sure
but
people leave during the content droughts
plus
you just need to be better than one of their current rogue s:p
tranquil birch
Now's a good time to start looking probably
shrewd oriole
are you europe?
dire spoke
like good ol giggle once said
civic palm
True.
shrewd oriole
how do you feel about memes
gaunt moat
i think anyone who posts a meme should die. no exceptions.
civic palm
Going from 2/11 to 3/11 we could go from US2000 to US1300 > _>
civic palm
Shocked more people don't have Eonar down.
shrewd oriole
these people are pretty good
I've heard lots of good things about them and their raid environment
tranquil birch
The really bad mytic guilds wall on AHC i think
gaunt moat
i think the brigade followed me, but i can't do weekends. gf is here.
prime void
@civic palm holy shit is it really that big of a gap
civic palm
Yeah, people are in general, real bad.
prime void
LOL
gaunt moat
@midnight latch giggle and don jose quit
prime void
I just didnt realize the gap between the two would be so big
shrewd oriole
Ah rip
civic palm
We have 2 potato healers.
prime void
we have 20 potatoes
shrewd oriole
yeah a friend of mine went there, they gave me an offer as well but fridays are terrible for me
prime void
Should have heard last nights raid... oh boi
civic palm
we picked up a PUG shaman for Eonar last night and he literally commented to the RL how bad our other shaman was.
shrewd oriole
friday is usually date night ahaha
midnight latch
@gaunt moat really?
gaunt moat
prime void
date night... #jealous
civic palm
Brogade indeed.
prime void
I get to have fire ass skype dates
midnight latch
@shrewd oriole take your phone on date
we will coach you
primal tangle
I'm having a lot of fun as sin already, and I don't even have weak auras set up yet
midnight latch
kinda like backseat gaming
midnight latch
discord plays datenight
gaunt moat
:3
civic palm
bahahaha
shrewd oriole
Notter after day 1: "my rogue counterpart is so godly I feel like I'm learning so much from him"
: )
gaunt moat
didn't you say you're a girl
prime void
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/us/tichondrius/Nurfed @gaunt moat Don't know how rare this is- but this is top guild on my server (US so just using as an example) but they're no alts
shrewd oriole
the picture I linked the other day was in fact a picture of girlfriend after I told her argus was making me suicidal
gaunt moat
I'm the dude in my picture
civic palm
The hand or the cutie?
prime void
argus is making me suicidal. If I have to hear one more "junior raid lead" tell the group how easy it is to drop soulblight out ima off myself
civic palm
ha
gaunt moat
last guild that tried to recruit me was an all Iranian guild from kazzak. so i turned off my looking for guild, and decided to wait until close to release of next expansion XD
prime void
Our raid leads one flaw is letting every single fucker give their opinion
civic palm
Just drop it on the casters.
median shadow
I'm the dude in my picture too btw
shrewd oriole
are you iranian notter?
gaunt moat
No, I'm from Israel.
so i would assume it would have been quite akward
civic palm
H A
crystal fox
you playing on kazzak notter?
shrewd oriole
LOL
gaunt moat
no, currently on tarren mill
shrewd oriole
Kazzak is prime arabland tbh
nimble tartan
🙃
gaunt moat
the think is, the guy who contacted me, was like "no, we like israel!"
and offered to pay for transfer.
but like... i dunnnnnooo abouttt thattt 😅
shrewd oriole
LUL
what language would you even speak
I assume they wouldnt appreciate your hebrew
gaunt moat
next thing you know mosad agents come to interogate me
civic palm
lol
tranquil birch
I imagine Iranians playing wow are pretty progressive relative to the general population tho
prime void
@nimble tartan what are you going to alt for PC ?!
tranquil birch
And I mean the general population if Iran is suprisingly progressive to begin with
gaunt moat
the way their country is portrayed in our media, i was pretty shocked they said it to be honest.
upper bane
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shrewd oriole
why did you stop raiding notter?
nimble tartan
demon hunter @prime void
might main swap over to dh for bfa as welll
we shall see
nimble tartan
hehe
urban storm
i cant see myself not maining rogue
but i have generally enjoyed elemental
so that will prob be the 1st alt i level
nimble tartan
didnt have a lot of fun on rogue this expac tbh
gaunt moat
i left my guild to join Justwait's new guild, was pretty gun. got to play with method people.
then after 2 weeks, they decided to disband. for reasons i find very... suspecious.
and at that point i kinda given up.
it's the end of the expansion anyway
urban storm
^
nimble tartan
sub dfa was only fun for a couple weeks and then sin is like..xd for what i likie to do and my preferred playstyle
make outlaw great again tbh
primal tangle
The mage tower is an excellent way to learn sin, I did it in 10~ attempts and had a lot of fun learning to multi dot and keep up rupture
empty tide
it sure is
spare cloud
dire spoke
diying is pretty much impossible with leeching poison
shrewd oriole
the mage tower is nice
dire spoke
except you're to slow and loose track of things
median ermine
guys just got the legendary cape is it worth using for mythic +?
median ermine
ok fair enough thanks mate
shrewd oriole
: ( not having all legos by now when u can get 3 leggos a week
median ermine
i only got shjoulders cape and kill jaedons
dire spoke
then back is better I believe
median ermine
😃 haha ok thanks
drifting crypt
depending on your trinkets, kj's is really good
dire spoke
depending on your group depending on affixes depending on dungeon
askinggeneralquestions
drifting crypt
^ this
dire spoke
it's a ST brainded sim 🤷 what did you expect
think of legos like a toolbox
you don't hammer a screw
median ermine
yea i dont have much of a variety yet tho gonna have to keep grinding
dire spoke
🙏 go for it
median ermine
thanks for the tips ❤
prime void
playing spriest for 2 years really helped with keeping rupture and garrote up on multi targets lol
median ermine
that poison bomb wow!
dire spoke
deepheeass
haughty harness
DA BOMB
gaunt moat
i wanna play alpha just to get to feel how much PB procs :x
steep obsidian
go fok the adds and then get pb on them
dire spoke
steep obsidian
also use belt while you are only pushing to first transition to make yourself feel even better
gaunt moat
@dire spoke we got #wowheadnews thank you very much 😛
shrewd oriole
just value changes
steep obsidian
i havent actually seen anyone stream bfa alpha from rogue pov yet
dire spoke
lol
wrong discord
but I leave it there cus ppl using discord
I see they're tuning everything down, is this related with the stat changes?
strange python
on live, do we still pool energy before Garrote/Rupture?
manic vigil
yeah 😄
shrewd oriole
I mean
it's 20% chance now
up from 12,5%
should be a decent change for aoe tbh
dire spoke
it would be really neat when we go switching around talents boss wise again
I mean, I liked it
like, trash aoe go PB ... oh boss fight I pick TB now
lone junco
Good. Bomb.
dire spoke
I miss that variety rn
lone junco
Sin for st. Sub for cleave?
shrewd oriole
uhh what
PB isnt in the same row
as TB
wouldnt be surprised if PB is the ST talent in the row tbh
dire spoke
lol
muted badger
i hope PB dies in hell
muted badger
no proc should do that much damage
dire spoke
I liked crimson but the ramp up may be shite for most of the time
shrewd oriole
I mean
you gotta compare crimson to envenom
are we ever crimson'ing on ST?
I doubt it
therefore, PB will be the ST talent most likely
bit aids but oh well
dire spoke
🙏 for moving shiz around
dire spoke
didn't look at it yet tbh lol sec
shrewd oriole
muted badger
wonder if crit/mastery will be the go to for assa in BfA
muted badger
mastery affecting bleeds might make it real good
pure jackal
if venom rush isnt baseline
muted badger
venom rush is a buff i think
dire spoke
master assassin? is this vendetta cd
pure jackal
they better do something to prevnt energy starvation
muted badger
it affects venomous wounds by 5
shrewd oriole
@dire spoke shoulders, 50% for 3 seconds
dire spoke
oh that thingy
muted badger
go to wowhead and hover over venomous wounds
pure jackal
feels bad enough on live as bleed build having to constantly wait for energy to cast
shrewd oriole
No
the venom rush is a nerf mate
RN it's 3 energy everytime a bleed ticks on a poisoned target
muted badger
i believe it also applies to venomous wounds
shrewd oriole
on alpha it's 5 everytime you muti
shrewd oriole
Uh?
drifting crypt
venomous wounds gives 12 every bleed tick on alpha
shrewd oriole
it's probably mixing up the old VR
on alpha current build
VR just adds 5 energy to your muti
and VW is 7 energy iirc
can log in and see but I think my gf is playing
but yeah
VR is not very good if it stays as is
dire spoke
sin looks quite boring tho
pure jackal
anyone know if there are any crit breakpoints for bleed that mean i wont be constantly energy starved ?
at 41% atm and having to wait for energy to mut a lot
shrewd oriole
@dire spoke that's how the spec plays rn without TB and KB tho xd
legit not difference
shrewd oriole
garrote muti rupture garrote garrote envenom garrote garrote envenom
: )
Yeah
most people do
assa was such a garbage spec in wod xd
looks like we are heading back in that direction
dire spoke
they all were messed up, I like the "clean up" they did with Legion
shrewd oriole
THEY CHANGE
D
LIKE
NOTHING
AAAHHH
tilted
wod assa and legion alpha
and therefore bfa alpha
are essentially the same
they added KB and TB
and removed CT and dispatch
shrewd oriole
wish they made KB baseline
dire spoke
sub was messed up in WoD, having bleeds and snd
shrewd oriole
what
sub in wod
was
fucking amazing
it was probably peak perfection of a rogue spec
it was probably the best iteration of rogue I've played and I've played since BC
: (
dire spoke
it didn't make sense man D :
shrewd oriole
why
rupture in sub was like
perma exsang
@lone junco would've loved it
find weakness was sick
dire spoke
it was so fucking much spells like wth
arctic venture
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shrewd oriole
sub in wod
dire spoke
and vanish right out of stealth
shrewd oriole
during BRF you'd vanish after opener to refresh
dire spoke
xD
shrewd oriole
find weakness
nah man
jsut because a spec has many abilities doesnt mean it's messed up
it was a clear identity
you keep dots up off cds
during Cds you spam ambush
and eviscerate
dire spoke
:p
shrewd oriole
it didnt change the playstyle at all
dire spoke
he never played otl huh
shrewd oriole
guess not
manic vigil
🤷
dire spoke
if you take loaded I guess anti would be better to handle the waste
or
idk
thinky loud
noble imp
Hey boys. Does any of you have a clickable poison applying weak aura?
gilded lark
.
shrewd oriole
nah, I have a big warning on screen ifI dont have poisons
but never made a clickable one
not a bad idea
noble imp
Atm, I'm trying to convert the clickable AP one into a clickable poison one
shrewd oriole
might do one
noble imp
For Deadly Poison
exotic glen
no need since i've never forgotten them
i dont know how, because it sounds like something i'd forget
manic vigil
yeah lol. I have a big wa that insults me harshly but that's it
not sure why I need it to be clickable tho 🤔
but why not I guess
dire spoke
does it say, you son of a spoon?
manic vigil
rip ST dps when you forget to turn off flurry
manic vigil
it is?
shrewd oriole
yeah
manic vigil
lel
dire spoke
wait what
gilded lark
manic vigil
I'm confused as well
shrewd oriole
why
gilded lark
2 charges of blade flurry
shrewd oriole
yeah xd
manic vigil
okaaay
dire spoke
gilded lark
oh, tom is talking bfa alpha?
dire spoke
we're looking at sloot
shrewd oriole
are watching a bfa stream
manic vigil
obviously
gilded lark
oh
shrewd oriole
manic vigil
I still had no idea they changed flurry
that's ridiculous
flowi was right, ded class
shrewd oriole
so fucking energy starved
monkaS
your aoe has a cooldown
monkaS
what a trash spec
LUL
manic vigil
meanwhile seed spam 🤔
well I don't know anything about other classes either actually
plenty of time to catch up on the changes I guess
manic vigil
oh right
prime void
wow that english was broken
manic vigil
but you can reduce it significantly right now, can't you?
prime void
BF doesn't have energy reduction anymore ********
manic vigil
I still understood 😉
prime void
lasts for 10s with 30s recharge right
prime void
2 uses?
jagged geyser
Hey bois. So i recently Went Assa. Got shoulders and head. No bracers yet. So if i run Shoulders and head do our opener / rotation change? Considering Kingsbane will generate us Energy aswell?
dire spoke
they could add a bleed to the pistolshot bullets