assassination

[jovial kite]

🍿

[prime void]

😂😂😂

[shrewd oriole]

🍿

[thin sleet]

what

[prime void]

That was a lot of try in one sentence 😂

[shrewd oriole]

when everyone tells u ur wrong and u still want to believe you're right

[manic vigil]

So lol is no valid answer but 3 emotes is

Must be nice to make the rules

[thin sleet]

i just

don't know what your argument is

[prime void]

No one does

Maybe you should just go work?

[thin sleet]

what's the point of view you're trying to convey

[manic vigil]

Maybe

I don't know he just attacked me for saying caring about super duper high m+ keys is elitist

Without judgement

Maybe I should have said a niche problem

[thin sleet]

I don't think anyone attacked you, and that you might be a bit too fragile for Discord communities - people disagreed with your usage of elitist due to its negative connotations which they took as an attack.

[shrewd oriole]

a problem of the elite

[prime void]

Attacked?

[shrewd oriole]

thats what you should've said

instead

you antagonized me

for no fucking reason

lmao

[prime void]

I just had my boy Tom's back

[shrewd oriole]

❤

[thin sleet]

basically this was all an argument over semantics

[prime void]

Can't be messing with the homie.

[thin sleet]

granted the locals were a bit touchy too.

[manic vigil]

Antagonized how

[prime void]

Sick of being called elitist for actually having game knowledge lol

Its a bad thing to be good at wow

[manic vigil]

Being called elitist is good in my book btw

Lol

[shrewd oriole]

you're confusing

elitist

with

elite

[manic vigil]

No

[thin sleet]

notlikethis

[lucid pollen]

^

[midnight latch]

👺

[thin sleet]

one moment lemme get a fuckin

english teacher

brb

[manic vigil]

👌

[shrewd oriole]

elite = people who are part of the 1% in whatever area be with wealth, content they perform. An elitist is someone who dismisses people who, in wow terms for example, do content below theirs

an elitists doesnt need to be part of the elite

[warm parcel]

So am I an elite elitist?

[prime void]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

you can have elitists that do fucking heroic raiding and call people who do normal morons

[manic vigil]

Exactly

[prime void]

Exactly?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[drowsy island]

i do lfr only and think everyone is bad

[prime void]

^ elitist elite

[thin sleet]

can a non-role person link stuff

[shrewd oriole]

yé

[prime void]

Yeet

[thin sleet]

2s, clipping

[shrewd oriole]

@warm parcel goddamn elitist elite lite lit

[valid plank]

normal is shit tho

[thin sleet]

https://clips.twitch.tv/FilthyConfidentButterflyWoofer

here

[valid plank]

heroics shit too but that's my shit

[lone junco]

what game is that.

[thin sleet]

thats ds1 but that's irrelevant

[lone junco]

doesnt look like sin rogue to me

[haughty harness]

What kind of rogue is that?

[lone junco]

neckbeard

[thin sleet]

@manic vigil check that clip out

[lone junco]

"here drink this toxic clip"

"raise your blood pressure cause this nerd is mean"

[manic vigil]

@prime void why are you flipping out like that with your question marks

[prime void]

😂😂😂

[shrewd oriole]

That clip

[drowsy island]

guy ask me if i have invis pot for brh 21 i said no and got kicked ( im on my rogue)

[shrewd oriole]

Is fucking what I’ve been trying to say

Thank you whoever posted it

Lmao

[lone junco]

I was in lfr recently. doing my thing. tank calling people fucking idiots and retards. So i vote kicked him mid boss. 👌 was fun with 1tank.

[thin sleet]

np tom

i went and grabbed a guy that has a degree in english lit

[haughty harness]

Sometimes in lfr the tank just 1 tank shit

[thin sleet]

as that's the most competent person i could think of on the spot

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha feels bad man

[manic vigil]

That was never the problem. Since Tom is elitist 😏

[thin sleet]

jesus fuck i give up

[shrewd oriole]

haHAA

[manic vigil]

If he's part of the elite I don't know

[lone junco]

tom does shit on my heroic skills occasionally.

[manic vigil]

You guys are cute btw

[lone junco]

its fine. I am used to it by now.

[shrewd oriole]

Ahaha

[thin sleet]

dunning kruger so hard my face is melting off

[manic vigil]

See

🤷

[shrewd oriole]

Hey mods can we introduce a new rule

[manic vigil]

Kappa

[shrewd oriole]

Can only talk if you have cutting edge

[lone junco]

I typ respond by shaming heroic ilvl parses. 98 orange heroic. 22 by ilvl 😉

[thin sleet]

tom please don't try to illustrate this

ever heard of wrestling a pig in mud

[zealous dew]

😄

i have 1/11 M

[shrewd oriole]

Hey man cmon

There’s like 50 rogues at my ilvl

[prime void]

I want bacon now:(

[shrewd oriole]

Not my fault 😦

[lone junco]

just means you are not good compared to them?

[prime void]

I think theres 42 at mine

[lone junco]

or you are.

[prime void]

Feels bad

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah I mean

[lone junco]

jhonwei is like 99/99

[shrewd oriole]

Getting Pb on pull just makes you a better player

Kappa

[lone junco]

bell curves dont lie

[prime void]

Damn johnwei

[exotic glen]

knew a guy who would call me elitist just because i joined a guild better than his

[lone junco]

prob true.

[exotic glen]

literally from day to the next, i was suddenly a bad person to him

[lone junco]

if you shit on your friends for progress

[thin sleet]

i know one like that too

[shrewd oriole]

Progress on bosses is fun as assa

[lone junco]

👌

[shrewd oriole]

Sometimes I do 3M 2 minutes into the fight

[prime void]

I mean... if you raid mythic you're an elitist. Obviously

[zealous dew]

wiping on farm is more fun

[shrewd oriole]

Sometimes I’m doing 2.3

[haughty harness]

Bros before loot?

[thin sleet]

he can just stop progressing on lfr/n/hc, whatever the guild he's in atm gets to, and not care about improving past that

[lone junco]

i love St. makes me sad in fat cleave.

[thin sleet]

and i kinda envy him

[exotic glen]

would you stop with your elitist talk mizuxe

[lone junco]

meh.

[shrewd oriole]

Does that mean the higher world rank you are the most elitist you are

[exotic glen]

anything from your mouth is toxic 💯

[manic vigil]

I still think elitist is a compliment. But I also love flowi

One might see a pattern there

[shrewd oriole]

Does that make flowi the most elitist out of all of us

[prime void]

Lul

[lone junco]

@shrewd oriole if you call people shitters. then yes. if you are nice to scrubys like me. then no

[zealous dew]

coming out ?

[thin sleet]

unimatrix you have had several examples and explanations from multiple sources that elitist isn't a compliment

[shrewd oriole]

Noobe you know like twice as much about assa as I do

[manic vigil]

Yes flowi has converted me

[exotic glen]

doesnt matter really what you think, the community has made the term have bad connotations

[shrewd oriole]

As far as I’m concerned your opinion is not dismissible ❤

[thin sleet]

argonic it's not the community, it's the english language

[lone junco]

ayyy zing

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah what kasto said

[prime void]

Noobe knows 2x more than 80% of mythic sin rogues lol

[shrewd oriole]

Tru

[manic vigil]

Yeah noobe rocks for sure

[gaunt moat]

what if you'tr an elite elitist? 🤔

[lone junco]

im an lfr hero

[shrewd oriole]

Often elite players are elitists tho

[gaunt moat]

no i mean

[lone junco]

joined a +20% KJ last night

[thin sleet]

then you're kind of an asshole, but justified kinda

[shrewd oriole]

There is clearly a correlation between the two

[lone junco]

🔥

[gaunt moat]

you're an elitist only to elite players

[shrewd oriole]

Oh

[gaunt moat]

what does that make you

[strange python]

The best

[shrewd oriole]

Uhh

Blizzard?

[manic vigil]

😯

[thin sleet]

then you're probably just an idiot

[strange python]

😎

[thin sleet]

so ye, what tom said

[shrewd oriole]

They love shitting on high end players xd

Arcano btw

Titan forging btw

[prime void]

Sounds bout right

[shrewd oriole]

54 traits btw

Leggos btw

[thin sleet]

hey we don't like how titanforging messed with set bonuses so we're removing set bonuses

just fuck me up fam

[shrewd oriole]

😃

[haughty harness]

IMO, fuck set bonuses

[thin sleet]

imo fuck set bonuses and TFing

[haughty harness]

Dumb down da game plox (only set tho)

[midnight latch]

imo fuck errybady

[thin sleet]

i don't like the idea of wearing shittier gear because of a stupid set bonus

and i don't like the idea of TFing but who does

[shrewd oriole]

Sets are cool

They bring change to the class every tier

I don’t like the imbalance between sets

lol like why is sub tier so bad

[thin sleet]

problems only arise if a set from prev tier beats current tier

[drowsy island]

i have 981 bag ilvl

[thin sleet]

like hunter t19

[drowsy island]

the dream if i was tierless

[exotic glen]

while i dont like TFing, you would be an idiot to think it would be in blizzards best intentions to remove it

[thin sleet]

one fix is to have really shitty early tiers

[haughty harness]

Yeah but we know blizz balance is not great

[thin sleet]

oh yeah TFing is here to stay for a reason

[lone junco]

i don't like the idea of wearing shittier gear because of a stupid set bonus

lol :fart:

2p4p

[shrewd oriole]

Titan forging exists

Because blizzard wants Johnny to logging every day

[lone junco]

some bonuses are worth more than agi

[shrewd oriole]

And farm content

Forever

In hopes of titan forging

It’s a hamster wheel

[exotic glen]

yep

[thin sleet]

also Bobby to TF a max ilvl piece so his quest greens are offset by it

[lone junco]

good carrot imo

[shrewd oriole]

A way of artificially extending content

[thin sleet]

i swear there's so many shitty alts with ATV it's insane

[lone junco]

we've all played content that ends at end boss. with zero things to do because you have the pieces.

[haughty harness]

Remember that blizzard wins by keeping farming/grinding

[lone junco]

TF is keeps the wheel turning.

[shrewd oriole]

I like gettting my bis gear tho

[lone junco]

i dont.

[thin sleet]

yeah

[shrewd oriole]

Competing with people on an equal basis

[lone junco]

I like more dps

[thin sleet]

getting a bis item is amazing

but it also makes you stop playing

[shrewd oriole]

Logs in legion are a joke

[thin sleet]

so they want to make that not a thing

[shrewd oriole]

True

[lone junco]

I give no shits if it is a 825 base ring tf to 995

[exotic glen]

if you guys played any destiny game (for example, because i tried those myself), once you hit cap ilvl, there was literally nothing to do

[thin sleet]

by making bis mathematically impossible

[exotic glen]

no reason to do anything, nothing to even do

[thin sleet]

yes but surely they could come up with something more entertaining than TF

[lone junco]

spent all of Vanilla/BC/LK/Wod jumping in org/Shat/Garrison

meh

[exotic glen]

not a simple system that will last as long

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[haughty harness]

M+ with guildies seems a good endgame content for me

[lone junco]

M+ steps are good content. but without tf tier is left in the dust

[strange python]

/Legion jumping in /dalaran

[lone junco]

cmon. wod mythic runs were for the valor tokens per gear, then done.

[clear mantle]

Haven't play my rogue for a little bit, is 4pc T21 a must have?

[lone junco]

@clear mantle sure. it is very good.

[strange python]

Yes

[drowsy island]

for sin yea for sub no for outlaw yea

[clear mantle]

I do have a 4 piece but it replaces a 980 crit/mast chest and Mantle

[thin sleet]

sim yourself

[lone junco]

did some SND last night hoping to bump my cleave @shrewd oriole gloves are neat. but man, they just dont pump. or im just not used to them yet.

[clear mantle]

Think I'll try and get the other pieces

[thin sleet]

that's the smart way to go about it

[lone junco]

@clear mantle ideal is hat/leg/chest/cloak shoulder hands are good from T20

[haughty harness]

I'm scared cuz my outlul SnD is growing more than my assa spec.

[lone junco]

yeah but. the contact time on bosses makes sin >>>

[haughty harness]

Each week outlaw sims higher while my assa is stuck

[lone junco]

maybe garothi when you stand flat melee.

but anything with downtime, outlaw is rough.

set a WA buzzer for max E.

and lol away.

[sturdy python]

Is clipping SoT important now that AP is gone

[lone junco]

/AIRHORN

[sturdy python]

Alrighty thank you!

[lone junco]

@sturdy python worry about Envenom during KB uptime. and 99% rupture

and try for 3env during TB.

thats enough to stress over

[haughty harness]

The problem with outlaw is that sometimes I misspress double saber slash wasting energy and cp

[sturdy python]

Alright appreciate it

[lone junco]

@haughty harness not the only one

[haughty harness]

Or even double RT

And then I feeling bad for all those pistol shot procs that are wasted but if you use them you cap energy and that's cancer

[shrewd oriole]

@unborn merlin foundit

[unborn merlin]

@shrewd oriole do you listen to the xx? jaime should be a good performance

[exotic glen]

omg have you heard the intro 🤔

[unborn merlin]

@shrewd oriole I recently blind purchased my ACL ticket, so I dont know the lineup, but this was last years https://www.aclfestival.com/wp-www-aclfestival-com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/acl17-900px-full-lineup-1004.jpg

[manic vigil]

Why do other melee builds not suffer the loss of downtime as much? Like warriors or whatever. Or is it just a feeling with outlaw since we have the other specs

ie how could it be fixed

[drowsy island]

why is fok so inconsistant

giving me 1 cb on 5targets wtf

[lone junco]

it only gives you extra cp if it crits

storm gives you 1 per target.

[shrewd oriole]

Ducking. Hell that lineup is mad

How much were those

The names that come here are way more limited man

[unborn merlin]

@manic vigil because sin damage is almost exclusively dot based. in other words, it takes time to get into producing steady dps

[lone junco]

@manic vigil if outlaw could dump e like 100% E to use a scaled KS. but the flooded energy is the problem.

if there is no e cap or cp waste there isnt really that much loss.

[manic vigil]

That was not my question @unborn merlin 🤔

[lone junco]

outlaw just peggs 100% about 2 sec away from boss.

[shrewd oriole]

Not to mention

If you just blindly envenom

You’re gonna overlap a ton

And lose uptime

[manic vigil]

Yeah that makes sense noobe

[shrewd oriole]

Wait is that an outlaw Q

Rip

[manic vigil]

Yes

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve hardly played outlaw but I remember combat with like 740 gear

[manic vigil]

🤐

[shrewd oriole]

It was legit impossible not to overcap energy

I just could not do it

[lone junco]

we get to dump to 20, run out run back and have Vend pop with 5cp ready and roll up to boss without capping or dropping.

[exotic glen]

fuck, i miss combat now

[shrewd oriole]

Outlaw is ok

[lone junco]

outlaw mastery is bad.

nothing scales properly

[shrewd oriole]

But I miss red buff killing spree too much

[exotic glen]

hell yeah

[lone junco]

Agi should be top weight if they want white damage

[shrewd oriole]

Heah

[lone junco]

its just wrong.

[shrewd oriole]

Their mastery was insane in wod

Best stat

Wait no

That was ms

[lone junco]

alacrity prob broke it.

[shrewd oriole]

Never mind lmao

[haughty harness]

Ilvl 951 sims 1.68M DPS, sadlife

[shrewd oriole]

I confused multistrike and mastery for a second

Multistrike was insane for outlaw

[lone junco]

@haughty harness ooo rough. good luck

[exotic glen]

multistrike was insane for everyone

[shrewd oriole]

Cuz of IP

Dunno

Outlaw lacks some ooopmh to me

RtB has low lows and high highs which can be annoying and snd is brain dead

[midnight shuttle]

forgot multistrike even was a thing

[exotic glen]

yeah, i dont really feel good playing outlaw

[lone junco]

I love the bones. I hate the pace

[unborn merlin]

@shrewd oriole $200 for a VIP ticket, includes a bunch of boujee stuff that is cool. Plus, it will resale for double that I choose to sell it since I did the blind purchase (not knowing the lineup, but every year there is an amazing lineup, so im not worried)

[shrewd oriole]

SS SS fun through

[lone junco]

bracers gives me anxiety

[shrewd oriole]

SS SS run through

Resident sleeper

@unborn merlin that’s a great price for a lineup that good tbh

I love legion assa

Wod assa was garbage

[lone junco]

hit 88% crit last night on outlaw tho

lol

[shrewd oriole]

But poison build feels super cute

You got lots of stuff to press and track

It’s still easy but more active

[haughty harness]

I just wish rtb gameplay would be 1 buff instead of fishing for 2buffs

So you change depending of the buff you got making a dinamic gameplay but then again some buff sucks

Poison assa is nice

Good DPS easy to get and with some tricks master

[manic vigil]

I agree Tom

[haughty harness]

That's how I feel it

[shrewd oriole]

It’s an easy spec done right imo

[manic vigil]

Still feel like I should play sub again

[shrewd oriole]

Sub is cool

[manic vigil]

At least in m+

[shrewd oriole]

I’ve learnt to love both

I’d tell you that assa sucks for keys and that you should play sub for m+ but that would be elitist of me

Smiley face

[manic vigil]

😏

True though

[shrewd oriole]

Very true

[manic vigil]

I'm just too lazy and let my guys do the aoe lifting lately

[haughty harness]

For m+ 15 assa ain't that bad tho

[shrewd oriole]

For 15 nothing is bad

[manic vigil]

My thoughts exaxtly

[shrewd oriole]

But for 15 comp doesn’t really matter

[manic vigil]

And we only do 15-18

[shrewd oriole]

Fucking two manning 15’s at this point

[manic vigil]

I bet

[exotic glen]

i play whatever spec depending on what comp we have

[manic vigil]

With only heroic gear it's still tough occasionally

[exotic glen]

gives a bit more variety as well, other than just spamming sin

[shrewd oriole]

Please tell me what comp is assa better for

[manic vigil]

At least a 17 is. For some reason 15 is super easy and 17 is hard for us

[shrewd oriole]

I can think of one scenario but

[exotic glen]

tyrannical low aoe dungeons?

[shrewd oriole]

Sub is still better for the lacks of up karazhan

For example

[zealous dew]

sin is better for pugs, when pussy tank pulls 3 mobs

other than that, rip

[shrewd oriole]

It does about the same ST

[exotic glen]

also depends if you have like a fire mage or lock to carry aoe dps

[lone junco]

With only heroic gear it's still tough occasionally

oy

[exotic glen]

no reason to blow your load on a pack that someone else destroyes

[lone junco]

^

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah but

What about the next pack

And the one after that

What about bursting one specific target

[lone junco]

that is why i dumped sub. tank runs glaives. I do ST.

[zealous dew]

simple, pull all of them

[shrewd oriole]

Like elemental in BRH

[manic vigil]

@lone junco what do you mean?

[shrewd oriole]

on demand st burst sub is amazing

[lone junco]

14 arcway was harder for us than 16 upper.

[shrewd oriole]

And that is great for

M+

[zealous dew]

the on demand monk burst is amazing

[manic vigil]

With mythic gear you can faceroll shit. Tanks tougher, more dps etc

[lone junco]

prob our offspec heal from pally.

ye

[shrewd oriole]

Yeah bht monk is amazing period

Lmao

[lone junco]

people were just getting wrecked by grevious.

[shrewd oriole]

Grievous makes small mistakes matter a lot more

[lone junco]

guy wont respec out of raid build either. so that doesnt help

[manic vigil]

The girl I play with sucks at playing monk. She's very good at boomkin but her monk is ded all day

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[lone junco]

moonkin just hangs in the back and beams

[shrewd oriole]

Monk is squishy

[lone junco]

melee die

[shrewd oriole]

Monk needs to be babysat by the healer in high keys

Not rogues xd

[zealous dew]

rogues don't do dmg, monks do

so healer happy to babysit

[lone junco]

oy

[shrewd oriole]

I mean

[jovial kite]

Any snusbros here?

[shrewd oriole]

Rogues do damage 😦

[haughty harness]

Cloak of shadows + feint FTW!

[lone junco]

30M channeled spinny

[manic vigil]

@jovial kite 😂

Wat

[lone junco]

that dirt packet he puts under his lip

[jovial kite]

feelsgoodman

[exotic glen]

snus

ur fuked mate

[jovial kite]

memearrows

So are you

[crystal fox]

portion? weak, lös or nothing

[manic vigil]

I don't get

[lone junco]

I had a gold parse on dinner last night. Beef roast 👌

[jovial kite]

its portion

[midnight latch]

is that

[manic vigil]

Still laughing tho

[midnight latch]

tabacco?

or what

[jovial kite]

yeah

[exotic glen]

you critisize in others what you most hate about yourself

[manic vigil]

Fuck tobacco

I just got rid of fucking smoking 👌

Never again

[midnight latch]

I smoke the other dps in my raid

[jovial kite]

its not smoking though

LOLL NAYA

[zealous dew]

lolz

[shrewd oriole]

smoke bomb them maybe

[haughty harness]

Good on you pal smoking is bad :u

[manic vigil]

Xd Naya 🐝

[jovial kite]

@midnight latch If only that were true, sick burn though

[shrewd oriole]

Hard to beat them hugging the floor

[midnight latch]

@jovial kite man stop telling them :3

[manic vigil]

😂

[crystal fox]

@jovial kite snusbroes

[jovial kite]

🤣 ok

[midnight latch]

[jovial kite]

Sry

naya is sik deeps

He kill if u front

[midnight latch]

^

[drowsy island]

outlaw is gonna top in bfa prelaunch better get it to 75 right now

[midnight latch]

this guy knows whats up

[drowsy island]

im calling it

[crystal fox]

i wouldnt mind 🤷

as long as one specc is awesome

[manic vigil]

But the pirates?! Really?

Must we

[drowsy island]

i like outlaw... rtb outlaw i hate snd

but then i do1.2mil dps and im like nvm 😦

[timid cloud]

yeah, it just performs better with 21-4P

[covert furnace]

So I keep seeing other rogues using a weakaura that announces when poison bomb procs. Anyone know where I can get that?

[timid cloud]

I’m fine with playing Assy right now though. 200% mastery feels a bit strange.

[manic vigil]

@jovial kite is that emote actually called Naya monkaS

Now I'm scared

[lone junco]

:naya:

[manic vigil]

Man I need nitro as well

[crystal fox]

!nayavanish

[lone junco]

🤺

[manic vigil]

Noobe hasn't posted a log shot in ages

You aight buddy?

[haughty harness]

suspicious

[exotic glen]

did you get your 30 mil rupture yet

[lone junco]

who is dan

and why do people pay for mojis

[jovial kite]

@manic vigil

[lone junco]

dont answer. i dont care who dane is

[jovial kite]

[manic vigil]

😱 😱

[thin sleet]

dan is one of the biggest twitch streamers

[manic vigil]

Rip sleep tonight

[thin sleet]

tho he's less popular now than he used to be

[jovial kite]

i pay for discord like i would back up an artist i like by buyinhg their albums

Emojis are a plus

[manic vigil]

Makes it all the creepier when he's always acting nice

Kinda like dollies are scary right

[jovial kite]

4,99 us dallas is nothing

Literally

[lone junco]

speaking of. i should pay for raidbots. good content

[jovial kite]

y, wcl too

[lone junco]

i think they have a 3$

i dont block ads.

[jovial kite]

I do

[lone junco]

🎁

[jovial kite]

But i also support

[lone junco]

my home pc ads are all tits

my wife doesnt remember to use incognito like I do

[manic vigil]

Lol

[lone junco]

nice red there.

[manic vigil]

I have always had an ad block

A while back I saw YouTube ads for the first time

Didn't even know they existed, seriously

[lone junco]

meh. i close the tab if the ad gets in the way like Nytimes.

[normal plover]

the ones that play during a video?

I didnt think you could adblock those

[jovial kite]

You can

[normal plover]

actually I dont really remember getting them on my computer, just my phone and TV, so nevermind

[manic vigil]

All ads yeah

[jovial kite]

Yup

[vernal adder]

♿

[manic vigil]

I literally was shocked when I saw them. On my phone I guess

[normal plover]

youtube is mostly for my son watching weird educational videos

[manic vigil]

Wtf is this

[vernal adder]

idk what you are talking about but ye

[jovial kite]

"Educational"

SEXIEST KPOP STARS ALIVE

[manic vigil]

😂 😂 😂

[normal plover]

it's badly done computer graphics singing songs, or a video of some human being unwrapping toys

or some nerd ass family making some elaborate wooden trains video

(secretly jealous)

[exotic glen]

be careful with what you let kids watch on youtube

the kids section is absolute fucking degeneracy

[quick talon]

He's watching dwarf documentations 24/7

[manic vigil]

cmonBruh

[normal plover]

I bet it's full of subliminal advertising

[quick talon]

Hey

today i thought about the games our children play in kindergarden

[sinful tapir]

Duskwalker's are only worth using if the fight is long or?

[quick talon]

One of those games is acutally fucking racist

[lone junco]

subliminal advertising

So my kid (5yo girl) watches superbowl commercials. Next day starts eating her hair cause she saw it in a commercial. Literally shit a wad of hair.

[manic vigil]

Iwin was thinking. Now I'm scared

The outcome can't be good

[quick talon]

Well

the game is basically

"Whos scared of the black man"

[normal plover]

lol what

where do you live?

[manic vigil]

Sad but true

[quick talon]

🇩🇪

[manic vigil]

I played that in kindergarten

[warm parcel]

Isnt that just a normal old game

[quick talon]

guess we all did

[normal plover]

there is a game in the US called smear the queer but it's not for kindergarten

what is the black man game

[manic vigil]

🤔

[quick talon]

no im pretty sure it was kindergarten/first grade game

I remember kids yelling "WHOS SCARED OF THE BLACK MAN?" "NOBODY" "AND IF HE COMES?" "WE START RUNNING"

how did i not burst out laughing back then

so innocent

[normal plover]

a lot of the songs are creepy in hindsight

[quick talon]

@manic vigil http://www.e-rara.ch/sikjm/content/pageview/2997950

guess even our grand-grandparents played it

[lone junco]

creepy song is Baby, It's Cold Outside

[manic vigil]

I find the US one even more offensive

[lone junco]

christmas

[manic vigil]

Fucking religious muricans man

[normal plover]

is it like duck duck goose

[glad ferry]

its an emote

[lone junco]

same dif

[quick talon]

Tits on toast

sounds like a good breakfast

[lone junco]

and this is reasonablekerning.

[normal plover]

what

[spare cloud]

👋

[lone junco]

https://giphy.com/gifs/party-sausage-oWtvmhyo5tl5e

sausage party time.

[quick talon]

2nd from left doesnt belong there

"what am i doing here"

[shrewd oriole]

Ahah

[pure jackal]

hey peeps do i need to make any changes to playstyle when using leggo boots? just dropped for me

[hoary copper]

I like sausage parties....

[pure jackal]

for xsang build

[lone junco]

👀

[quick talon]

noobe

[manic vigil]

:eyes:

[quick talon]

your turn

[manic vigil]

Broadwöaschd

👌

[lone junco]

https://giphy.com/gifs/clothes-stopmotion-l0HeneZn2dAOyHTO0

[jovial kite]

@pure jackal no, just line ezsang with vendetta

[pure jackal]

neat

[manic vigil]

😯

[lone junco]

with 3 vendettas and boots, you will find that it lines up about 1 -3 sec before the exang is back.

so you wind up with good peaks.

[pure jackal]

sick i just need 75 traits and then i have 3 vend relics 😩

[lone junco]

or get better relics

if you dont have 3, 2 is ok. you just have to hold exang a few sec.

but dont fire off willynilly.

and clip EP 100% during that exang ( and the rest of the fight)

[pure jackal]

sounds fun, looking forward to being energy starved less

[lone junco]

if you can be 42+ crit and maybe 1 bb. it will start to come together.

I stack Crit Mastery gear tbh. keeps me flexible back to MPTB for argus.

[pure jackal]

remind me of what bb stands for ?

[lone junco]

balanced blades. Mutilate crit relic.

you have bracers?

[pure jackal]

no sadly i have insignia boots

ravenholdt insignia that is

[lone junco]

insig boots is still a "good" poison build.

just hang out there.

but do whatever.

crit feeds anything that is a non shoulder build.

[pure jackal]

does seal fate roll separately for off hand mut hits :?

[lone junco]

yes

can get 2 3 or 4

[pure jackal]

hmmok

i should b able to hit around 40 crit with a decent ring, got 38 atm with seal of the portalmaster 🤢

[split maple]

So random but I feel like I'm not getting the most of out my vanishes mid fight. Are you guys usually vanishing during the last 5 secs of a Kingsbane so those ticks get mantle buff and pooling for the most mut->envenoms you can get or is there something I'm just being a derp about with it?

[strange python]

are you saving it for vendetta?

[split maple]

yeah

[strange python]

my kingsbane never seems to line up with the second vanish unless I deliberately delay it

and it is true that sometimes my second vanish peaks at ~5m and sometimes it doesn't and it's unclear why

[lone junco]

@split maple prob just vanishing with low E. if you have vend tbkb mut vanish Env Mut env mut env. will be really good.

just dont refresh rupture or garrote during shoulder imo

unless subterfuge, then its not a shoulder problem

[strange python]

I guess execute range and concordance/fang procs make a difference

do you use fang? is it reasonable to vanish based off whether you have the agility buff or not?

[lone junco]

bracer rang is important. esp if it is the 2nd vanish, that means it is a quick fight. you might not get another full kb again. track tth.

fang is up a lot.

like 50%

[split maple]

yup that's the derp. I should just try to mimic the opening sequencing and I wasn't. that makes sense and seems super obvious. can't believe i didnt think of that

[strange python]

well then it is also down a lot. 50%.

[lone junco]

@split maple standard protocol is to use things on cd, but at the vanish you really need to have a lot of E. and TB. or you are wasting it.

[split maple]

So noted. thanks guys!

[strange python]

that's why I don't get why people use subterfuge and shoulders

[manic vigil]

I really enjoy playing without mantle atm

[lone junco]

im only talking like a 10 sec delay on TB to line it up with that vanish.

[strange python]

using a gcd for garrote during shoulders

[manic vigil]

Ez mode of ez mode

[lone junco]

I ran that EPAntiTB bracer boot

was super smooth. and beat my sim for Shoulder bracer

really boring.

but clip clip clip

was easy to get 3env in Tb. if you start high

[manic vigil]

I couldn't make anti work yet 🤔

I tried after watching weak's stream

But meh

[lone junco]

0p4p i was able to push to like 55crit.

[strange python]

what more can I do here that isn't "pray that I don't get a 3% poison bomb"?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VhYXFZn2mKpx1P6L#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=10

[lone junco]

with fang.

vanish is good

[strange python]

yea I pulled off some miracle there.

[lone junco]

little gaping

specifically for the kb

outside is less imp

your sim is what 2.08?

[strange python]

my sim is 2.05

[lone junco]

yeah. was going to say it looked good.

[strange python]

alright.

[lone junco]

kill off like 5 more people and you will own.

[strange python]

If only!

[lone junco]

my heroic varith went ok this week. just shy of sim

Plus your fight was pretty fast. if you can hit 4:15 you get a 3rd vanish.

[strange python]

I see the kingsbane envenom stuff though. Sometimes I feel like there are some moments where it is virtually impossible to keep up envenom buff and refresh dots during kingsbane - and I have to make the decision to "press kingsbane off cd right now" and maybe miss some envenom uptime, or delay kingsbane

[lone junco]

did I know you were na thrall?

[strange python]

think I mentioned it once upon a time

[torpid kiln]

Anyone here who can help me?

[strange python]

sure

[lone junco]

@strange python you can dig through these if you want to find differences.

[torpid kiln]

My problem is, that i dont have energie, like i do there abilities and i dont have energie anymore 😃

[lone junco]

your mid block vendetta looked pretty limp.

@torpid kiln if your bleeds are up, and waiting for vendetta to come around. you wait.

it is slow.

[strange python]

do you think 3:40 kill time is fast enough for tailbuff kingsbane to make a noticeable improvement

[lone junco]

Im more of a front end fan these days.

vendetta tb kb vanish env.

but w/e

I dont play shoulders.

(often)

[strange python]

I get that, the inital kb hit sometimes hits the hardest

[torpid kiln]

sorry im realativly new as a assa rogue

can i add someone in game to take about?

[lone junco]

@strange python https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VhYXFZn2mKpx1P6L#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=10&comparesearchplayer=10&comparesearch=2.10.2.14

@torpid kiln SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE

[torpid kiln]

already read it

[strange python]

not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at there

[torpid kiln]

is there any "good" roation addon, that may help me for the beginning?

[lone junco]

you can look at the ones above you.

[strange python]

oh, the comparison

[lone junco]

basically aside from bomb. how did they use TB/KB

nah

last I tried, sin wasnt supported

[torpid kiln]

@frigid lagoon already use that

but i have a weird feelign it aint so good

[lone junco]

it should get you to 50% ilvl.

but after that, you are on your own.

afk work

[jovial kite]

Liar

[manic vigil]

👆

[smoky wind]

i have just boosted a rogue to 110, would it be worth it to take Vigor instead of Deeper Stratagem for the energy regen etc till i can get my T21 bonus?

[crystal fox]

who told you to take deeper?

[smoky wind]

an assas rogue in my guild said it can be alot better, but he has the set bonuses etc

[crystal fox]

you should probably point your friend to this discord

he might learn some stuff

[haughty harness]

Go vigor beat that guy in dps

Then...

Conquer the world

[smoky wind]

Oh okay, thanks!

[pure jackal]

deeper is better for bleed build right

that exists

[manic vigil]

Does it tho 🤔

Exist I mean

😏

[pure jackal]

for some of us mentally deficient people

[manic vigil]

It's actually harder to play I guess

It's quite the... elitist spec so to speak 😏

🙈

You know you're not quite right in the head when you laugh way too hard about your own jokes 😂

[midnight latch]

I always giggle at my own jokes

[unreal coyote]

its not a crime to be fucking hilarious

[manic vigil]

Thanks guys. But I'm OK with being crazy, really 👌

😃

[stark tinsel]

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[shrewd oriole]

Fucking

Elitist

Is that seriously gonna become a meme

[thin sleet]

I hope not

[zealous dew]

oh boy

this small ivasion potato tanks

moving bosses

[manic vigil]

Yes Tom 😃

It is one for me already

@zealous dew why does that anger you

Mobs die in 10s anyway

[exotic glen]

laughing at your own jokes is only bad when you do it at the wrong times

[manic vigil]

I laughed really hard tho

[exotic glen]

i once started a school presentation like that, and couldnt continue

[manic vigil]

Like really

[safe matrix]

Wtf assassination isn't supported in Aethys rotation

[manic vigil]

Been there xd

[zealous dew]

i hate it

[safe matrix]

Doesn't aethys himself play assa?

[zealous dew]

potato tanks

wtb naya tonk

[manic vigil]

Potatoes are solid food

Stop hatin

[lone junco]

@zealous dew do you drop cripple for specific affixes or dungeons? Ive always used it for kiting. and just wait till tank Los to open.

[zealous dew]

i just removed this week

because potato tanks

in sanguine

[manic vigil]

😂

[lone junco]

there was cripple shaming yesterday.

I mean. just get out of the sanguine? and run ranged

[manic vigil]

🥔 👌

[lone junco]

what is the problem?

[zealous dew]

what about those retarted retardins stunning ?

god kick them

[manic vigil]

#potatoesareawesome

[lone junco]

keeps sanquine tight

they have long range.

[zealous dew]

tbh best tank for sanguine is bear 😃

can still trash while backpedaling and mobslowed

[lone junco]

bear does well for a lot of things.

except mass grip RIP

[zealous dew]

i macroed a /say this week, when huge pool of sanguine spawns i cloak it and /s "because rogues can"

ppl in pugs go nuts

or pb procs, whisper focus, don't you dare move the mobs potato tank

best one are still paladins

[manic vigil]

Might outdps you tho

[zealous dew]

2x rogue, at 10% of the previos pack the horse up and pull the next one

[manic vigil]

Rogue no dps and all

[zealous dew]

instaquit party

nah playing lock

that seed

0 fps

100m dps

[lone junco]

30M

yeah

is fire any good?

I have the hat

prob nothing compared to lock.

[manic vigil]

Yeah seed is 💦

[zealous dew]

yeah it's very good

[lone junco]

meteor and dragon

and fire stain

[zealous dew]

can keep up with lock

if you use RoP

burst is insane as well

[lone junco]

pretty sure rogue is geared up about as far as ill get. +/- 3%

so i have hpal. fire mage. dh.

[manic vigil]

Time to play a good class 😯

[lone junco]

I can do rogue in our top keys, but not worth being a +3 hero

so I just wait for good keys

[zealous dew]

eoa is good this week

[lone junco]

can you keep up with warriors on last EoA?

[zealous dew]

with druid / portalpants lock

[lone junco]

I gave it a fucking rip with exang and was like . . . wait nooooooo

[zealous dew]

haven't seen a warrior in ages

[lone junco]

warrior dumpsterd me so hard.

not sure if i messed the opener

[exotic glen]

i once got confident on wrath of aszhara that i would do most dps

got absolutely fucking destroyed by our lock

their execute is just insane

[zealous dew]

no warlock specs ST in eoa

pointless

you only go MG in cos high tyr and UK

[exotic glen]

isnt it deaths embrace thats their execute

thats on an entirely different talent row?

[lone junco]

would a dh tank use meta shoulders?

all i have is shoulder/wrist?

[zealous dew]

yeah but you need MG for st

no clue about DH sorry

[lone junco]

i liked fire mage. dmg was just so limp. 882~ilvl. doing like 400k dps

needs major work. can probably run guild normy Argus and catch up ish.

ok. that makes more sense

[exotic glen]

i cant tell you what he did other than play deaths embrace, so if he was aoe, i got destroyed by and aoe lock on ST

[lone junco]

lol

[somber oar]

does anyone else find the value of master assin to be way overhyped

its only super bis if the fight is like perfectly timed

[lone junco]

@somber oar there is always room for more vendetta.

really tho. if you use shoulders, you can just pump that window. and work around 2min intervals.

2:15 4:15

[zealous dew]

vendetta is so overrated in real scenario

especially if you do mechanics

[lone junco]

I like it at 45sec.

[exotic glen]

when you call it before it happens

[lone junco]

but self buffs are >>

dance/symbol etc.

[thin sleet]

Oh jesus christ

We'll need 2 weapon upgrades in bfa

[lone junco]

daggers wont drop in pairs will they

[manic vigil]

they should actually

maybe?

kinda scary having to hunt weapons again monkaS

[lone junco]

good wep on boss 4 best wep on boss 11

[solar fog]

2 weapons, double the trouble.

[manic vigil]

titsontoast on a reaction rampage POGGERS

I see you 👁

[normal plover]

waiting for weapons to drop was the WORST

[hardy pewter]

no diff between having to hunt relics or weapons tbh

[normal plover]

hmmm

[lone junco]

relics are worse due to destroy

[normal plover]

yeah

less dps consequence though

[hardy pewter]

relic rng is the worst :<

[lone junco]

good to bad relic is like 3% dps max?

[normal plover]

I want reforging back

[lone junco]

ew

Ill take TF

less simulations pls

[normal plover]

but reforge you can make all shitty haste drops better

and shadowcraft useful again lol

[solar fog]

so is herodamage being managed by all classes or is it mostly rogue community?

[lone junco]

dunno who owns/supports/pays for the site.

[solar fog]

the guys should announce it on reddit or some place in order to get more people in.

[normal plover]

rogues showing the other classes whats up

[gaunt moat]

aethys monopolized the TC market

bought up the competition

[solar fog]

Aethys the overlord.

[pure jackal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ATGz9tcNLRBZ1bQv/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=20 anyone care to check this log real quick and see if there's anything im doing horribly wrong ?

playing gimped build

[merry root]

hero damage has poor rep with windwalker for example, so no

[solar fog]

i really like how organized and active the github is. Wish other classes had one like it.

[merry root]

@solar fog

[solar fog]

i see

[merry root]

as always, take sims with a grain of salt yadda yadda

[craggy bison]

Whats opener for assass with shoulders? Just got them

[zealous dew]

mut x 4 + pb

[exotic glen]

@craggy bison http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[lucid terrace]

Hello all

[exotic glen]

hi

[craggy bison]

thanks arg

!

[exotic glen]

n

p

[lucid terrace]

Wanted to ask what is the soft cap if there is for mastery ... I have 35% crit, 3% haste, 192%mastery and 8% versa...

should i go lower with my mastery

[unreal coyote]

at 204% mast

[exotic glen]

none

[unreal coyote]

still sims highest

[zealous dew]

199.73% is the cap

[exotic glen]

10 mil % mastery is hardcap

[lucid terrace]

lol 😃

thank you guys: 😄

[exotic glen]

np

[nova snow]

just got 980 Gorlash Legacy

any good?

!trinkets

[chrome tusk]

List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/

[zealous dew]

nop

[nova snow]

figured

[shrewd oriole]

It’s ok for outlaw 😃

[strange python]

gorlash is literally only good for the opening of a m+

stack to 14, start the key, and go ham

then swap it out and never use it again

[pure jackal]

right so i asked this a few days ago and got called retarded sine i was running subterfuge, but even now with NS, vanish > rupture still doesnt apply buffed rupture

is there a delay before NS buff is applied when you vanish or something ?

maybe that could be it since it seems to happen much more during bloodlust so i could be getting an auto in quicker

[strange python]

yes deadly poison can still take nightstalker

[lone junco]

@pure jackal I don't macro. But the past few days I've been having a little trouble. Like Rupture not going off. Might just be my shitty fingers. How do you know the rupture isn't getting buffed?

[pure jackal]

using a weakaura that shows durartion in yelow when its buffed by NS

[strange python]

Notters weakauras make the timer green when its buffed

[lone junco]

WA can suck.

But. You can see it in logs.

My wa turns yellow. I assume it's right lol.

[stark heart]

Is Noobe a 2 persons account?

And they chat here in shifts?

[lone junco]

Tick rates are pretty visible in logs. But buff procs like conc and fang will flex values substantially.

There are 3 of me.

[stark heart]

Right@

[lone junco]

It's 2pm here.

[stark heart]

Almost midnight for me 👀

[lone junco]

Only time I just 🚪 is like 2am -7am

You 11/11?

[stark heart]

Me?

[lone junco]

For some reason I remembered you being in medium tier mythic guild.

Yeah.

[stark heart]

Not yet

10/11

Think 3 more raid nights and it's down

[lone junco]

Nice. We have 1pull on argus. Should be done in a week.

[gaunt moat]

why are you colorless lorentz

[stark heart]

Neutral

[lone junco]

He is all colors.

Makes white.

Like a sunbeam.

[stark heart]

Yep

Since I play class not a spec

[lone junco]

Except outlaw. Rip that shit.

[stark heart]

I am excited the most about outlaw

[haughty harness]

I agree with Lorentz, play the class not the spec.

[grave elk]

whats pandemic?

[stark heart]

I wanna see what Seph can do with rtb

[lone junco]

Did some outlaw last night. I was kicking ass.

And no deeps.

So much button pressing.

Perfect bte Bb

Nothing.

[stark heart]

@grave elk effect that retains part of the existing buff/debuff and adds it to newly applied

[grave elk]

@stark heart oh ok, an example of that?

[lone junco]

Single just drooped. Started medium. Trailed off.

@grave elk Rupture with 5 sec left. Cast 5cp rupture. Total will be 29s instead of 24

[stark heart]

I type too slow on phone

[hoary copper]

Do we know what they're doing to outlaw?

[stark heart]

You stole my answer

[lone junco]

It gives the rotation a little freedom.

[stark heart]

[lone junco]

I'm on phone. At eye doctor

[stark heart]

I am not taking about Legion outlaw

But bfa

I hope for 1 only buff rtb and more interesting effects

[lone junco]

Any scale to Bte?

I would love super fat crits.

[stark heart]

And then probably toning down whole cdr thingy

[hoary copper]

I have 8 110s I think at this point, how am I sposed to pick one to level

[stark heart]

Right now not being in melee is costly for a spec

Like every second not being in melee for Assa is fine if you don't cap pretty much

[lone junco]

Other solution I've always wanted was e dump for ks. Scale based on use.

[stark heart]

Not being in melee for outlaw is really pricy

[lone junco]

Fucking Alacrity. So much wrong.

[stark heart]

Think alac is fine if spec likes haste

[lone junco]

Cbb should reset on number of targets hit.

[stark heart]

Just wasn't a thing

For non outlaw

[lone junco]

Nothing scales.

[warm parcel]

Alac is now 5 stacks on alpha

[stark heart]

Yeah and 2%

[drowsy island]

wtf why is outlaw beating sin on mythic coven

[lone junco]

K

[stark heart]

Percent is highe I think

Than live

Or is it 3 on alpha

[lone junco]

Can acro cleave both on coven spread?

[warm parcel]

yea

[lone junco]

😃

Shoulder glove win.

Or something.

[warm parcel]

Oh

The log is a cheese log anyway

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mVdrDgMTXkYyKRzj#fight=4&type=damage-done&source=14&start=1083588&end=1111613

[lone junco]

I think our ret can DStorm cleave both.

[warm parcel]

Interested in how he got 111M bf hit

[lone junco]

On phone.

Btw. I ran. 2220011

[warm parcel]

https://i.imgur.com/fsBL4pp.png @stark heart

[lone junco]

It's my top poison.

[drowsy island]

haste really needs to scale better on energy regen

[lone junco]

Got mut to 99% crit on argus.