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#assassination
crystal fox
always had a rogue for pvp every expansion
spare cloud
whats that?
lean hill
On imonar if I cloak the canister does it hit people near me or just go away entirely?
manic vigil
Warrior 👌
spare cloud
Yes
lean hill
Thanks. Mythic prog, couldn't remember which it would do so I just didn't do it
spare cloud
Hopefully I will survive immonar today
lean hill
I mean I can survive just fine. Problem is there is only one of me and not 20
spare cloud
Last week I had ship and was knocked back and while i was flying backwards the other ship knocked me back another time
was fun
dim cedar
hello guys
lean hill
First attempt someone ran across me with a ship on the other side of the bridge. Crossed the streams and blew me up since I had nowhere to run
dim cedar
got a quick question here 😃
ancient sonnet
insta shadowstep
lean hill
Fuck that bridge
ancient sonnet
then you dont have to worry about being hit twice
dim cedar
i read : When both bleeds are up use Envenom at 4+ combo points. Try to use Envenom right before your Envenom buff falls off. in the assa guide
spare cloud
Couldn't shadowstep because it was the one before bridge break
ancient sonnet
step to ally
dim cedar
i was wondering, the envenom buff is surge of toxin right ?
ancient sonnet
wot
lean hill
@dim cedar there's envenom buff and surge of toxins
spare cloud
been doing that the other times
dim cedar
ty @lean hill
lean hill
If it's referring to clipping the envenom I think that's what it means rather than surge
Surge you just keep up as often as possible, I think. I'm just a sin scrub
dim cedar
i was discussing the spec with some others assa rogues
and they told me that i should save my energy for max env under toxic blade
and keep surge for for KB
lean hill
Surge is applied with every finisher
manic vigil
The question is just weird tbh. The envenom buff is the envenom buff 🤷
lean hill
I think it confuses everyone though
lean hill
Surge is there with every finisher and a flat time
Envenom buff you clip until you can't get a 4-5 point envenom off
Then you pool
indigo idol
i guess he meant that you should get as many env as poss in the tb window cuz tb buffs the dmg
so to get as much env as poss you gotta pool energy
dim cedar
yes @indigo idol
because when i first started to play assa, i tried to play around surge to keep it up 100% time
spice surge
Well that's kinda true, but that would mean wasting envenom uptime if you're casting a lot
strange python
you had to in nighthold.
spice surge
Having high uptime on envenom, especially during kb but in general aswell
manic vigil
Sometimes anyway
spice surge
Surge uptime isn't very relevant, it comes fairly naturally from getting good envenom uptime
dim cedar
but now, i'm playing around TB, so i pool a lot to get max env
i'm trying at least, but doesn't feel natural
strange python
the sim apl doesn't pool for anything.
strange python
didn't say it was stupid
indigo idol
@dim cedar tb buff is more important for kb than for env and both "styles" (spamming env for env dmg and high uptime for kingsbane) is contrary so you gotta do the best of the 2 which is high up time for kingsbane
strange python
🤔 you don't save tb for kb
indigo idol
well 60% of the time you have tb when kb ticks
dim cedar
well i heard that you should use TB as soon as possible unless, KB is coming in 5sec max
and try to cast TB at 9s or less when KB is ticking
spice surge
Use both on CD
strange python
there are some top logs with tailbuffed kingsbane. if the fight is really short then the potential wasted tb casts are low
spice surge
Wasting casts of tb isn't worth aligning them
indigo idol
and btw @dim cedar when you pool you miss amplified poison dmg from mutilate
which isnot negated by the env buff you get for pooling
dim cedar
ok, i kinda felt it when people told me the opposite, i tried on dummies and didn't felt right @indigo idol
pooling or not for Toxic Blade @frigid lagoon
drowsy island
@spare cloud I get yelled at for running into orbs with cloak damn rl spazin out thinkin im being dumb its funny every week
zealous dew
prob raiding
manic vigil
No way
foggy folio
drowsy island
Lol '' STOP RUNNIN INTO ORBS'' O wait
dire spoke
is pizza or spaghetti better on monday
drowsy island
PIzza with spaghetti topping
drowsy island
seriously tho boots or bracers for 20+
dire spoke
you didn't get the hint huh
manic vigil
No
solid field
think people run shoulders/bracers in high m+
manic vigil
Too subtle for the sin chat PogChamp
solid field
But I wouldn't know.. just what I see
dire spoke
@drowsy island you can't generalize that by saying X or Y
due to enemies and affixes
drowsy island
yea its fort this week
regal bough
Is bracers/shoulders a big dps gain over ravenholdt/shoulders or boots/shoulders?
Say for fights averaging 4 min
dire spoke
if only we could simulate that
manic vigil
Yeah something like that
crystal fox
dire spoke
300s are not 3min
manic vigil
Are we toxic yet 🤔
dire spoke
nah we gud
manic vigil
Just lemme know
sharp viper
hnng the satisfying feeling of closing 33 work related browser tabs
crystal fox
noobe probably has 33 sim related browswer tabs open all day
sharp viper
more tabs than dps
drowsy island
i keep tabs open for games i played 5months ago.....
drowsy kettle
On the opener with shoulders do u use kb and pb like normal and on last 6 secs vanish for kb 100% crit?
drowsy island
bought divinity 2 still have guide open havent played in 2months 😃
warm parcel
gaunt moat
don't need a guide for divinty 2, it's little children game
jovial kite
this tbh
drowsy kettle
Anyone answer?
dire spoke
🥄 __ 🥄 hey guys
@drowsy kettle did you see that link at the tippy top of this channel?
there's lots of 'em
manic vigil
I still haven't played divinity 1 yet
Rip
Too much talking in the beginning xd
Shut up and let me kill stuff 😡
solid field
I didn't play divinity 1, but I enjoyed divinity 2 when I played it
just make all melee dudes with as much movement talents as possible
dire spoke
giggity
manic vigil
Always mage
solid field
mages are poop
spare cloud
I started divinity 2, spent like 14 hours or smth in the first 2 zones
solid field
lol
manic vigil
You are poop
haughty harness
Wait Divinity OS 2 or Divinity 2?
solid field
The game just isn't very mage friendly is all.
haughty harness
Just go tactical mode, normal is just too easy
frozen pecan
Do you guys think it's worth upgrading cindaria to ilvl 1000 or rather stack wakening essence to buy and hope for shoulders or bracers? 🤔
spare cloud
I never played anything else than tactician mode
solid field
save imo
spare cloud
@frozen pecan Save
drowsy island
2nd one isnt mage friendly but first one mages can wipe out groups by themselves lol
manic vigil
But I'm talking about 1 so how would you know 🤔 @Bodock#2953
haughty harness
Save for a better loggo
solid field
My bad, needed moar infermation
drowsy island
meteor storm can solo bossesxD
haughty harness
in D:OS 1 mages were too stronk so in the 2d they're nerfed
frozen pecan
k ty for the input
solid field
Lone wolf too strong in 2nd one
manic vigil
Who wouldn't rp as a mage honestly. Why be a normal dude with a sword if you can also wield magic powaz 🤔
drowsy island
npc mages should just be named '' hoped you quicksaved''
dire spoke
I like Bench Simulator
solid field
I played as fane being a rogue, I loved being able to insta kill people with mortal blow
haughty harness
There's a special scarecrow that one shot your team if you don't have enough fire resistance in Tactitian, half of the time you'll ahve to split and prepare for battle or else you get pwned by chain lightning in turn 1
dire spoke
I even play it right now
solid field
That one group of scarecrows in Act 2?
haughty harness
Fane has a ranger/Rogue, Red has a mage, Ifan has a rogue/necro and beast has a melee/geomancer
It's a special named scarecrow standing in a burning field
mystic venture
Trying to get my variscari parses beyond +80% purpp, any suggestions guys? Aside from sub-optimal legos (don't have mantle OR bracers 🙄 )
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KPhVa2TcRqtWZjNm#fight=29&type=damage-done&source=4
drowsy island
if you dont have the 2 bis leggos wouldnt even bother trying tbh
solid field
I haven't played Div:OS2 in a couple months, have they changed anything lately with it?
hoary copper
That advice works with many things Uni
drowsy island
hmmm not really except for mods that makei t like the original os
so if you like that you can do that i guess
solid field
I only used the mod that made the boss encounters harder. Made that oil field fight near impossible.
At least to save the stupid NPC up on the tower, forgot his name.
drowsy island
i just like how when ur toons die they still get exp .. in the first one if someone died mid fight they lose out on so much EXP
ended up having a level 15 mage and a level 12 warrior xD
haughty harness
Yeah, when one of my team died in the 1 i just reloaded that shit or instarez with the next guy
manic vigil
Guess I'll dive into some more subnautica today, haven't played much since it has been released (nice one huh 😏)
haughty harness
In DOS:2 the trick is using Fane or an undead, escape while everyone dies, feign death (hunter >:U) , rez them in stealth then go back again
exotic glen
tfw the first amanthuls in your guild is on a garbage alt
first and probably last as well
exotic glen
it ascended from the status of garbage to mediocre just with that trinket
manic vigil
Just make it a main ez
exotic glen
the rest of its gear is still a lost cause
regal bough
My guilds first and only one was a resto Druid who pugged an argus kill the second week and got it. He still hasn’t killed N or H Var, Coven but he’s got his Aman Thuls lol
manic vigil
😂
exotic glen
this guy deserved it tho, he pugs h antorus on a lot of chars
manic vigil
Out of nowhere noobe posts a log
exotic glen
just got lucky on argus once
manic vigil
I can't 😂
velvet wedge
Is there a performance difference for simcraft online and using the desktop application? Online it says my gear that I have equipped is the best, but using the pawn string from the desktop app shows the pieces in my bags as upgrades O.o
exotic glen
how big of an upgrade are they
manic vigil
🙄
limber dew
@lone junco what was that log showing? Im confused
velvet wedge
they range from 19% to 101%, i keep my offspec and situational legs in my bag btw..
lone junco
👌
@limber dew 1 cast of rupture at 25M damage.
so when we compare exang vs mptb shoulder. you get 3x env at 6-8M. I get 1 rupture at 20-30M
2.4M ticks each second
manic vigil
:joy:
lone junco
I mean. yeah.
fervent beacon
Too much work, dick got caught in ceiling fan
lone junco
😄
fervent beacon
♿ now as snd
regal bough
I was trying to figure out what I can change to get over the 2 mil marker for my ilvl and try to be more on par with people with similar gear. There is a lot that I can do but im thinking if my guild takes 6 minutes to kill H Garothi I’m gonna have a hard time moving up lol
zealous dew
6 minutes?
manic vigil
😳
manic vigil
Idd
zealous dew
6 minutes of prydaz is not
lone junco
eww
regal bough
I am still hunting bracers
zealous dew
good luck
lone junco
@zealous dew holy shit. I tried my anti build in M+. was nice /horrible
fok = 8-10cp good.
TB EnvEnv
good
regal bough
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MWkx6XQvY7fr9DcT#fight=23&type=damage-done&source=17 I think this is our fastest kill that they remembered to have logs running.
lone junco
shoulder open ENv ENV good
soft island
Mean while i dropped 6th lego for my alt on my rogue. Lol
zealous dew
you can run DS
lone junco
dry as a fucking prune. bad
zealous dew
hahaha
lone junco
after about 3fok env, I was so fucking mad
lone junco
w/e. I do best just playing smooth.
zealous dew
boy those pelters
lone junco
our tank sure cant fucking kite 8+ in arcway
zealous dew
1 disc off 5.5m
had a good paladong healer though
now we got brh23
rip key for me
lone junco
I was fokking the snare, and he had a hard time grasping to kite the massive fel adds.
fortified stuff smashing too hard, just back the fuck up. this isnt raid tanking
zealous dew
yeah
lone junco
ele was champ tho.
zealous dew
can't face tank anymore 😃
lone junco
lock was a diff run. 8M -16M trash.
zealous dew
😄
zealous dew
man next time you go cortilax, grab 9 stacks and you have perma 170 energy
lone junco
I think 2p4p exang will remain my fortified build
manic vigil
Affli in m+ tho 🤤
lone junco
it tried glaives mines. and they are really limp compared to my rupture cleaves, or sub glaives
zealous dew
last night tonk pulled alll crabs in eoa, lock seed, 0 fps, 24m
lone junco
everytime i try to cheese with shoulder bombs I wind up limp
zealous dew
glaives for sin only if you can vanish in the last 5
lone junco
I cant be getting beat. 🙅
zealous dew
and first 3 in mantle
still does good dmg
like tell the tank you have glaives up he can pull like 100 crabs
and bam
lone junco
tank uses glaives. so we have good timing.
zealous dew
hehe
manic vigil
0 fps 24 mil dps. Meanwhile rogues have it the other way round right
lone junco
ayy
manic vigil
😏
lone junco
Ill just run my bleed, and fuck up priority targets like that big caster bitch in arcway
manic vigil
My affli is pure shit tho. They do need gear to get the crazy scaling going
zealous dew
my lock still has 915 pants 925 cloak
dire spoke
it's mythic time ☺
manic vigil
Juicy
safe matrix
Isn't poison better for m+ than bleed?
lone junco
we dont pull like big kids.
so lots of 2 -4 packs.
id rather we are only able to +1 the key with zero wipes.
solid field
my ilvl 918 lock sims at 950k
lone junco
makes my back hurt
zealous dew
lol that lock
spare cloud
got 2 items from second boss
lone junco
lone junco
😭
is it easy to update full roster simdps on wowprogress?
mine is still showing 1.57
spice surge
Wowprogress sims 🤔
It cant include nlc
Because its not on the armory, so it won't be accurate at all
spice surge
Its why you have to /simc instead of importing from armory for raidbots
Because armory api doesn't have anything to show nlc
lone junco
😭
torn token
Thats just not logging in
shut willow
Hey get that Eclipses guy outta here :D oh hai thar buddy
torn token
Lol ill go back to sub channel 😃
shut willow
Lol, sub = ebola
shut willow
Can you link that sheet noobe?
torn token
I been finally playing all 3 spec now
lone junco
its private. but we got it off the web somewhere. Ill see if I can find the source.
shut willow
Ok, thx
torn token
Satyr over soldier? 🤔
shut willow
I go sold for sin
torn token
For what? Score?
lone junco
for score you have to do other dungeons right?
apparently our people are alergic to seat
torn token
Seat 🤢
hoary copper
I cant blame them for that
ruby rover
Trying to catch up from being about a month behind, did the ideal set change from 2p4p boots/bracers to... looks like 4p shoulder/bracers if what I'm reading is accurate? Is that just based on shorter average fight duration?
supple hearth
Seats fine tbh it's just the newest one so most people aren't super familiar with it so they don't like doing it. Was the same with Cath. Now that more people know and are comfy with Cath you see more people running it
torn token
Well they did nerf cath alot
hoary copper
cath was a bit overtuned too
supple hearth
Sure. But the main reason was people didn't know it so it was a big scary NOPE whenever anyone saw it
Seat isn't hard at all I just find a lot of people with Lower scores don't know the fights
hoary copper
All I ever seem to run is upper. Stupid EOC
rigid mural
Could someone help me with the best gear and legendarys to get ?
solid field
@rigid mural check the pins. Also, take a look at warcraft logs
rigid mural
This is all new to me so i have no idea on what to do haha
lean hill
If you look in resources and faq there is a link to give you a run down on class discords, should help get you started
rigid mural
What are pins ?
supple hearth
crystal fox
giggleblush ❤ 🥄
supple hearth
Xoxo
manic vigil
Giggle alive PogChamp
earlier when I was laughing at noobe's log fetish you reacted with a fish. what's that supposed to mean @supple hearth 🤔
lost horizon
Just be thankful it wasn't a 🥄
supple hearth
Idk
jovial kite
a person described as a fish in poker is a player who plays loose and gets his money taken from him
supple hearth
I like the fish emoji
jovial kite
thats the only definition of a fish i know
jovial kite
noobe is not a fish 😦
manic vigil
🤔
hardy pewter
6 mins imonar, zero poison bombs, amazing spec
manic vigil
👍
jovial kite
dont mind me
safe tiger
worthy thistle
is cloaking necrotic add on vari fixed?
hoary copper
wasnt that part of the patch/hotfixes a week or 2 ago?
granite widget
team
hardy pewter
mizuxe it was a wipe, not a kill thank god
worthy thistle
idk that was why i asked
sand whale
prime void
Link the wipe @hardy pewter
hardy pewter
dayum
restive dust
Anyone got a opener for ass - shoulders + nightstalker?
hoary copper
Check out the guide, it has it
zealous dew
lolz dat pb
hardy pewter
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rf8paDnzgFmkhG9r mizune one of these, it was 6 mins duration
ancient sonnet
2.4% haste poggers
zealous dew
0 fps on argus
pushing random buttons
like it matters
I guess 760 is not good enough anymore
verbal drift
I sim 850k dps but i only do 730k dps on aggramar is this normal with patchwerk or am i playing wrong
prime void
You're fine
storm canopy
if i have isignia, should i single target rotation with 2 targets or fan of nives still?
knives*
manic vigil
shantal with the potato PC 👌
verbal drift
whats best atm, bleed or poison build?
manic vigil
not much better with shitty fps tho
although 🤔 back in my mage days, TBC or something, I remember losing DPS after getting a new PC LuL
embrace the lag!
hoary copper
@verbal drift They can be close depending on gear, you can sim it though
zealous dew
haha
nop, relogged and this coffee machine still does 20 fps, seems like my dps in raid
lone junco
we had a guy with horrible lag last night.
turns out his pc had tethered to his cell phone data
rip wifi
[network engineer at facebork]
prime void
Are you positive its a gpu issue ?
wispy ore
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
zealous dew
lol amanthul
meager ice
would it be better to swap out legendary shoulders to get t21 4set?
i would be using ravenholt and boots as my others
manic vigil
guess who reacted with 💯 on that comment you linked @lone junco 😏
lone junco
gusty dew
manic vigil
1050 sounds okay. I'm not an expert though. I had to buy one not too long agon and went with a 1060 Shrug: @zealous dew
lone junco
hey neat. just scrub them from the webby https://twitchemotes.com/sub/1
manic vigil
for wow? no
zealous dew
are there any GPU sims somewhere ?
manic vigil
but if you don't even know if it's a gfx card problem....
gaunt moat
that's your gf?
lone junco
@zealous dew back in the day, my friend would go to tomshardware for ratings. there is also a stress test for cards. some graphics flying around. gives you a score. (could fry your card)
gaunt moat
@lone junco you had stocks in dow jones?
gaunt moat
a girl and you pimp your gf to get alpha? that's pretty disrespectful.
manic vigil
notter is silent for hours and as soon as a pic of a grill shows up he's activating 🤔
gaunt moat
@lone junco i have a meeting with investements advisor next week for the first time in my life. i'm anxious.
shrewd oriole
Weak got it, just say you’re a discord mod
jovial kite
notter likes feminine penis
lone junco
and "guide writer"
manic vigil
surrender your key, Tom! For the greater good
gaunt moat
i just like what i know from home, you know?
manic vigil
F
gaunt moat
tell them i can replace him
manic vigil
😮
lone junco
locks may be bad in bfa. but now is the time
shrewd oriole
outlaw has negative self healing
gaunt moat
yeah i'm outlaw, that's why i wrote the assassination guide, to keep people confused and guessing
manic vigil
Notter is a bunny, not a parrot HELLO?!
manic vigil
rat
shrewd oriole
write a completly wrong guide to confuse the masses
gaunt moat
DO I LOOK LIKE A PARROT TO YOU??
http://i.imgur.com/7hYT1EL.jpg
manic vigil
😏
manic vigil
rude
well, tbh I don't think I'd even want to play alpha. whatcha doing there all the time? with standard interface rip
no ty
manic vigil
yeah
manic vigil
fair
I guess it's alright to get a rough idea
I'm still not sure what will be my main in BfA
lone junco
I like dummy work from tier vendor. But cba to leave town.
gaunt moat
hello? blizzard? we have account sharing to report.
zealous dew
cheers checking out
gaunt moat
it's not snitching if i'm jelous
manic vigil
yeah I guess
gaunt moat
It's like when you kill someone who pissed you off
it's not murder, because he deserved it
shrewd oriole
ahahah
manic vigil
okay .....
zealous dew
1050 ti it is
midnight latch
👀
nimble tartan
still sky
server transfer
gaunt moat
what does it mean to snipe from retail?
hoary copper
Stand in red stuff, it gives you damage I swear >.>
spare cloud
😄
gaunt moat
what's considered not overpriced
zealous dew
no clue, but 1080 for wow seems a waste of $$
void pecan
gaunt moat
i got 980ti... waiting for next generation, 1080ti not good enough
my monitor is 4k but i can only play 2k. above that i get frame drops / crash.
gaunt moat
(i can play wow at 4k 60fps though)
yeah i got 7700k
you should hear what cpu aethys got... X_X
but it's cause he actually needs it to run simc sims
civic palm
WTB better parallel processing optimization/CUDA core usage for SIMs plz
Also planning on buying a new GPU might as well be suicide atm.
It might be cheaper to buy one from a traditionally more expensive market, and then pay for shipping/taxes > _>
shrewd oriole
gaunt moat
@jovial kite yeah but you gotta be on tarren mill or pay for my transfer 😊
civic palm
Yeah gotta watch for resellers > _> or even 3rd parties.
gaunt moat
lol
jovial kite
im usually outspoken in raid but
we can say im sick
so you dont need to talk
you can just play
civic palm
Mic broke, low energy night.
manic vigil
perfect plan 🕵
gaunt moat
i can just yell perkele
jovial kite
yeah
gaunt moat
in a deep voice
jovial kite
youll fit right in!
manic vigil
😄
gaunt moat
there's one problem though
they'll be suspicious
why you suddenly do so much more DPS
jovial kite
manic vigil
must be nice to be in an 1337 guild btw. everyone is eager to skip raids like flowi or let others play 🤔
jovial kite
not even mad
but yeah its only positive
ill dm you my account info
and ill mail my phone
for authenticator
manic vigil
hf
strange python
so my sim says my expected st dps is like 1m but my ilvl is 931. could that be right?
crystal fox
yup
celest mirage
anyone here good at m+?
zealous dew
Seliathan is pretty good at m+
dusky rune
mfw i use default action bars and they're taking mah slots away in bfa
lone junco
Raid "oy SLACKJACK why are you poison again? make up your mind"
"slackjack" : ja
deft willow
one question about Sin whats a Good Mastery Rating i couldnt find it on the guide
lone junco
@deft willow btwn 150-215 depending on crit.
deft willow
@lone junco ty im sitting a little low on mastery then i fell
lone junco
is what stat weights are for
spare cloud
Are you playing bleed or poison?
deft willow
poison
lone junco
depends on shoulders. if you have orange shoulders, you would be in the 27-35 crit range. 175-210 mastery
lone junco
then just wear your best gear. use stat weights and pawn.
those are just good target numbers.
cant expect to hit them at ilvl 925
deft willow
im 939
lone junco
you know how to use raidbots?
spare cloud
Raidbots is a website that makes certain stuff easier to sim
Pawn is very helpful when you have generated your stat weights via sim
which you can then use to make custom strings for pawn
deft willow
yeah i think thats above my pay grade
lone junco
then just use a magic 8 ball
wise frigate
It's like two clicks.
deft willow
ill do research and try it
wise frigate
Go to Stat Weights on Raidbots.
spare cloud
deft willow
whats the worst that will happen
wise frigate
It generates a string you can literally click "Copy" and paste it into Pawn Import.
spare cloud
pick stat weights and just type in your character name
lone junco
crystal fox
manic vigil
it's picture time with daddy Noobe FeelsGoodMan
gilded lark
Heroic log brag time 
manic vigil
broadsides alive PogChamp
lone junco
we did 3tank aggrimar Heroic 😉
they couldnt seem to grip tinys and taunt flip the boss
dire spoke
where does Solitude ring drop yo
spare cloud
Yes
dire spoke
cathedral 
shrewd notch
haughty harness
Been Afflocks and BoomBirds are taking all our trash-killing action >:U
lone junco
@dire spoke maybe roll into the waves with 5cp for env fok env 🙏
haughty harness
Put a Rupture or 2 just in case you need energy? or nah?
lone junco
just a lot of prayer
I keed.
I actually had a better parse, but got to solo one of the cloud guys all the way to the tree.
manic vigil
dafuq is this shit
lone junco
which boss?
lone junco
aggrimar?
manic vigil
😂
manic vigil
👌
lone junco
just like Ashkandi
manic vigil
we gave our thunderfury to a hunter back in classic :x
civic palm
Yeah but Asskandi actually was a hunter weapon > _>
manic vigil
🤷
civic palm
If a 2h user wanted higher damage, between asskandi and the first sword, the first was better.
I don't remember where the axe was in that spread... hmmm
manic vigil
👀
civic palm
GL with that nightmare.
strange python
ulduar was fun 😮
civic palm
BT was bad enough for some people.
strange python
- boss was retarded to do each week but ayy
lone junco
maybe a 5k crit ring
strange python
i actually liked the hardmode thingi
manic vigil
ulduar was one of my all-time favorite instances
good shit
but I hate time walking
let it rest in pieces
lone junco
Timewalk scales some stuff funny
shoulders break them
the stat squish gives us like 17% crit.
so 100 is monster
the DFA cleave portion scales poorly as well. Ive mopped entire trash packs with a single dfa.
raid is like
deft willow
mopeed as like killed or?
lone junco
yeah. killed 10things at once with a single dfa
it shouldnt be that strong.
sub ofc
anyway. our lore nerds eat that shit up.
civic palm
Time to learn more Mythic bosses weeeee
lone junco
I should pug mythic ToS.
civic palm
GL
wide delta
how do u parse purple on kingaroth mythic?
there any tips?
i cant do it
lol
im pushin as much as I can and all I do is 2mio
plain thistle
play with boots, save vendetta for the first add, after that use for boss-add-boss-add-boss...
civic palm
How close is VEN coming off CD for the first add if you use it on pull?
lone junco
3vend boot is 45 sec. ish
civic palm
Yeah
lone junco
That's about 10 sec into fist add. So you get full duration.
You shoulder people are diff
plain thistle
if you use it on pull you maybe get a full vendetta for the first add
lone junco
Jhon is buffing vend tb Kb
civic palm
mantle boooooots
plain thistle
it will depends on your group
ashen fossil
Anyone feel like taking a look at my logs and bash my bad decision making in my rotation? Cuz I feel like I'm doing something wrong, but can't pinpoint it.
plain thistle
I did for my first kill and my dps was 2.43m ISH, but after that my group was killing it so fast that I wasnt getting a full vendetta
civic palm
Yeah that's one of my hold ups with VEN on adds.
plain thistle
the problem is, if you use it on pull, it will not be up for when the add spawn, which is exactly when you get max bonus
lone junco
Id like to see a slackjack exang log with full vanish fish.
civic palm
Guys don't damage the add I am fishing for BOTA.
civic palm
I only kid.
ashen fossil
Anyone? 😦
civic palm
I've research to do presently.
lone junco
Not on phone. Sry.
civic palm
Come back at 4am when there's like 12 people that will jump down your throat to solve your problems.
ashen fossil
hahaha
civic palm
Last night was weird > _>
lone junco
Garrote rupture. Vendetta mut rupture. Mut mut vanish rupture exang. 👌
All you need for full bleed clear is 16sec
Prob better than 3 10M shoulder env
I guess big boi env would be 14m
civic palm
Less.
spare cloud
But what if you get 4 pb
strange python
currently working on M Varimathras. RL is blaming me for not switching to adds, when our 2 DKs, feral druid and DHs are killing them before i can even tab...are 'sin rogues supposed to switch or what ?
seems like wasted CPs
civic palm
Depending on your raid comp. there won't be any chance to do damage to the adds with fucking DFA.
quick talon
I wouldnt bother switching to vari adds. Its not your niche
lone junco
@spare cloud I get bombs with 4-6 cp ruptures. And run 53 crit. My only concern is whether the whole bomb crits. Or none. Doesn't seem to crit per tick.
lone junco
Yeee.
zealous dew
nah OH doesn't hit all the time
lone junco
FOK in m+
civic palm
Get more hit :3
zealous dew
fok will be g00d
lone junco
Grevious makes our heals 😭
civic palm
mmmm 4000+ agi though
lone junco
Ye
civic palm
I mean... AGI literally works the same, it's about scaling.
but if you are using agi/mas stat sticks then 👍
civic palm
Sure sure
lone junco
5000x40
zealous dew
yeah i have eoe 930 and urn 940
lone junco
I have shit bombs when it matters.
zealous dew
anyway, rogue still doesn't do dmg so 😄
zealous dew
yeah CT pl0x
that's ace for m+
might even slap those 3ma in and follow noobe
bored of poison
civic palm
I think I am pushing MALCH/BB but that's even worse for AoE while at the same time being better.
lone junco
Too lazy to learn new stuff.
zealous dew
monk is fun
civic palm
monk is like.
zealous dew
no rng
manic vigil
monk is like
zealous dew
lfr tomorrow 😃
zealous dew
nah
lone junco
I wish outlaw was slower and stronger.
orchid prawn
monks mobility is pretty tasty
manic vigil
truth
orchid prawn
and ring of peace and leg sweep for free on alpha
lone junco
That blade furry is fine.
manic vigil
yeah monk is superior in every regard I guess
civic palm
Mobility leads to flying through the thing trying to kill you.
lone junco
And mark is fun.
zealous dew
anyway, take care folks, tv time
manic vigil
on super high keys that might be a problem tho
not being a rogue I mean
blade furry? 🤔
orchid prawn
ye not gonna lie evasion+cloak panic presses has saved me alot
manic vigil
is it with hairy swords? 😄
yeah rogue survivability is pretty stronk
but I'd rather have the deeps, idk 🤷
I like glass cannons
hardy pewter
shouldnt our recommended food be the 465 versa food instead of normal feast? looking at guide
manic vigil
hence going back to mage maybe
orchid prawn
ye, atleast in raids i feel like i live about as long as my bdk - when everyone else is dead :/ would trade for some burst aoe
civic palm
The 1% vers food from darkmoon?
manic vigil
hm
hardy pewter
at least with my stats its much better
manic vigil
it might be yeah
civic palm
Depends on how bad AGI is for you.
manic vigil
is it better than mastery tho
civic palm
Though the stat feast is just good in general.
hardy pewter
its 475 vs 350 mastery food
civic palm
Mastery has to be very very high to beat agi feast.
as it's only 375 or something
and agi is 500
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Do the math, it's easy enough.
manic vigil
exactly
hardy pewter
the feast is 475 versa
manic vigil
and sponsored food is always good
orchid prawn
mastery is just barely pulling ahead of feast for me, and not having to wait for RL to put it down 😩 👌
manic vigil
my casual raid group is obsessed with buff food. they parse grey and are keyboard turners but don't you pull before they have eaten!"
lone junco
@zealous dew are there any competitive outlaws?
civic palm
Syre
lone junco
Shiv seems good.
civic palm
Sure as well
lone junco
M+ specifically
orchid prawn
😄 yeah, but at the same time they atleast have the min/max mindset if nothing else
civic palm
mmm, OTL was fine during EN era, can't imagine it's worse now.
Just that there are so many better options now I imagine.
orchid prawn
otl was fine because potential damage was high, little did we know getting 1 rolls on good pulls was ass
civic palm
Yeah well when some traits are worth 10x more than others...
manic vigil
"rogue ded class"
quick talon
pre RT nerf outlaw was even fine with shit rolls
civic palm
Yeah but the shit rolls were the issue and doing more RT damage wasn't the solution frankly.
quick talon
also pre RT nerf it was really really strong in mythic dungeons
civic palm
preRT nerf with gloves oooobby
civic palm
Yeah, SUB just got so so good.
quick talon
yea but otl was playable with the RT trait, sadly nerfing the trait was double horrible
because all the relics went to the trashcan
civic palm
Well they were broken beforehand > _>
orchid prawn
also legendary RNG was pretty big in those early days, not having time to farm the majority
sephuz belt otl 👌
urban storm
i didnt get a legendary until 7.1 came out
quick talon
Well yea, that was the problem
urban storm
and i fucking played a shitload
quick talon
they nerfed RT trait to death without any compensation
urban storm
yeah both RT and the other one
quick talon
but well, do you remember our bracers having a 40% thereshold